Over 100k miles on BFG KO2 Swapping to Toyo Open Country AT3
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- Over 100k miles on BFG KO2 265/60R20 Swapping to Toyo Open Country AT3
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Amazing!
And yes, BFG needs to be sending you a set of tires for your loyalty to them.
I was mostley joking around but... never know. I've been getting some off the wall emails lately.
Great video, camera and audio is perfect. My experience with BF KO2 are after a while they just stop wearing out. Most of them die from dry rot and old age vs no tread left. That's after they fixed the compound of course.
Thank you! That's been my experience too
Agreed. Discount Tire told me they have a fair amount of grief balancing. The diesel eat them up too.
I had a set of KO2s on my '05 Wrangler for at least 10 years. The only reason I changed them is because the sidewalls started to dry rot, eventually. I never took care of these tires. I never rotated them or anything. I beat the heck out of them. I replaced them with another set of KO2s. I just put A/T IIIs on my 2018 F150 though. I hsa only been a week, but so far I love them. The ride, the tire noise, and even breaking are much better. I feel more bonded to the road. I went with Toyo because I live in a cold climate now, and everything I can find says they outperformed the KO2s in the snow and ice. We'll see how it goes.
All them BFGs KO2’s are on them boat just sitting in the Pacific Ocean. When they decide to get off their butt and move some goods. We will have tires!
Also I had them Toto Open Country, they were great tires, but I do love my Michelin Defender tires!!!
I know, it's crazy
You shouldn't have any problems with the Toyo's. I put about 60,000 miles a year on my truck and go through a lot of tires as well. I've run several sets of the BFG's that have lasted over 70k with good tread left on them but usually change them around that point just because the rubber gets hard or something and the truck starts riding rough on bumps. I now have a set of the Toyo AT3's on my F250 diesel with 27,000 miles on them and no complaints. I've run them from Florida to Washington state, North Dakota to Texas. I bought them for the 3 Peak rating as I'm the guy that usually gets sent to the northern jobs in the winter. I've run through a few snow storms including 1 through Colorado pulling my 13,000lb 5th wheel with no issues. Enjoy your Toyo's brother!
Thank you for your comment. I had to take them off at 7500 miles. One of them was out of round and i was going to have to wait for a replacement. They had a set of michelin defenders so i put them on so i could get back to work. I think toyos are a good tire i just got a bad one
I love the k02s they are a beast in the snow. My only complaint is they are terrible on slush and rain. I think they need more siping.
I ordered a set last week should be here in 3 weeks
As a Silverado owner myself, I'm more impressed with the 336,000 miles 👏👏👏
I know it's coming, just not sure how bad it's gonna be...373892 miles on it tonight
Hey Charles. 103K miles on a set of tires is outstanding! My opinion is that the BFG KO2 is the nicest looking tire out there but definitely pricey. I had a set of Nitto Dura Grapplers (Load Range E) on my last Duramax and liked them a lot. They were more of a highway tire but still did well in the harsh winters we have here in Vermont. They rode well and were extremely quiet. Looking forward to your assessment of the Toyos.
Thank you! yea, i was impressed. I would like to try the nittos. They're a good looking tire
😂 good video. That’s crazy how many miles you got out of them tires.
Thank you, Blew my mind
been running BFG tires since I was 18 years old I am now 55 years old now from jeeps to f350s never a blow out on the jeep I would air down to 8 psi best tire out there
I like them just caint find a 265/60 R20 anywhere
I like the video and those Toyo’s are a good looking tire.
Thank you, they are growing on me
That’s awesome! Love your videos very informative thank you for all the work you put into this!
Thank you! That means a ot
I have 108,000 miles on my Nitto terra grappler G2s. Made at the same factory in Georgia. Still running them. LT285/70R17
That's awesome! I think I'd like to try those next. Thank you for your comment
I put the KO2’s on my 2018 2500HD in a slightly larger 275/65R20 size and have been impressed so far. Wear has been even, noise is acceptable, towing stability is impressive, and traction in all situations and climates is strong. Opinions differ, but mine so far has been positive.
I feel the same, i hated to swap when they'd done me such a good job. You've been commenting on my videos pretty much since i started making videos. Thank you for sticking around and continuing to watch and comment. I hope all is going good for you. Stay safe out there
@@CFarmer Yeah man, it’s nice seeing feedback from someone with a similar vehicle, even though I don’t work mine near as heavily as yours. There are a lot of good choices out there for tires and I’m sure the Toyos will serve you well, but it’s hard to knock something as well proven all-around as the KO2…and you’ve definitely proven them.
Looking through your videos now. You have some pretty cool toys. I've looked at your channel before but i didn't remember you having so many videos. I must not be getting notifications. Good stuff
How’ve you liked the AT3’s so far? I’ve got about 35,000mi on my KO2’s so far and they are wearing great. I have Discount Tire rotate & balance them after I change the oil, or about every 7,500mi or so. They handle great, have performed well in all weather conditions and I love how they look, but I wouldn’t mind if they were a tad quieter at sub-highway speeds. They’re not obnoxious by any stretch, but that’s my only minor gripe.
I thought they were a little noisy myself... not too much but noticeable. I like the cts3 so far although they can still be glitchy when making changes but as long as i get them set and leave them alone they do really good
Amazing you got that many miles and your towing a lot.
I had my doubts I'd get 80k. I'm still shocked
i had 9 sets of bfg's on my 1986 toyota 4x4 and they were done between 40- 44,000 miles. now mind you i actually did 4x4 the toyota so that might have cut down on some miles. tough to believe hes getting 2x the miles i got on mine
Toyo for me ran them 100k plus before I had to get the new set. Another great informational video!
I can see where i should get more milage out of these. Deeper tread and design. Curiosity, Did you have the at2 or at3?
@@CFarmer at iii very good traction and can pretty much run in any weather. We had bit of ice and snow few weeks ago and I was hauling giant logs with bumper pull trailer no problem.
Good deal!
I'm running BFG KO2'S and I was really surprised at the low noise level.
Bf Goodrich are KINGS.
Due to cost of living or the GREED CRISES.
Ive decided to try out the Toyo A/T lll, which were £40 per tyre cheaper.
1st 300 miles where nice & smooth cruising @ 70mph on Hway.
So now will waiting for a hard winter in Scotland.
Awd Kia Sorento 2.2 tdi.
Any updates buddy?
That’s crazy, you get that much out of the bfgs. I hear people say they don’t last more than 30k. You’re doing awesome!
Even the tire shop when I bought my first set told me 40k max. He was blown away when he figured the millage up.
@@CFarmer Yeah, I was lucky to get 35k on terra grapplers and never towed anything heavy.
85k when I had them on a 4Runner.
You should get a hold of BF and have them come out and take those tires back for research. Or make a commercial with your rig.
They look good; they look good; they look good; they're gone, 😆 kinda like me!
O lord, lol
I am in between toyo and bfgs for my truck.. Which ones do you find quieter between the two?
It's been 8 months already and I've subscribed for your update.
Thank you for your comment. I could have sworn i did a video but looked and couldn't find it. I had to take the toyos off at 7500 miles. One was out of round and another broke a belt. I know a lot of people love the toyos but i was really disappointed. The entire time i had them at highway speed they would shake and it got worse and worse until I could get them pulled off. it was awful... almost undriveable. The store i bought them at exchanged them for a set of michelin defenders. I had them road forced balanced 3 times in the 7500 miles but had to get back to the shop i bought them at to get credit. I apologize for not putting out a video explaining what happend but i am making the video today. Thank you for bringing it to my attention
Thanks for a great video! I appreciate it! Mabuhay 🤙🏼
Thank you!
I can’t imagine switching tires from a set I got 100,000 miles on with plenty of tread left over. BFGs are the only tires I’ll put on my truck, hopefully it works out for you though I enjoy your videos.
Thank you! I sure didn't want to
I know you’re not doing RVs anymore but I just replaced my KO twos that have 115 K on them with a new identical set. Tread was getting close for DOT standards but plenty of tread left so I kept them in the garage.
Man that mileage is crazy. I’m Dmax is on Hankook HTs. My first set I got 88k but if I’d change the ball joints earlier I might’ve got more out of them. Keep us updated on the Toyos …I may have to make a change. Stay safe my friend
I sure will, i caint believe i haven't had to replace front end parts yet. Just hope it doesn't all go bad at once
Reading through the comments here. I ordered the AT 3 toyo's now I'm thinking I might exchange them for the KO2s.
The people that love them really stand by them. I've had repeated good experiences with the ko2s. I hope which ever you get works out great for you
Those tires are too good to take off
I sill have them mounted on a different set of wheels for spares. Running cross country when the get low i usually pull them off so i can sell them or keep for spares
I’m in the same position with the same size ko2. Love them but can’t get them or I’d never switch. Going to give the cooper rugged treks a try. Had toyo at 2’s on my old tundra at one point and they handled great on road, but I need a bit more off road traction these days
Let me know how those cooper's work out. Hope they work good for you
Good vid, what tire pressure were you running?
Can you do an update on the AT3s?
Fantastic video I love your videos keep it up
Thank you!
@@CFarmer what’s the secret to getting high milage on the tires? What psi do you run and when do you rotate them
I think it helps that i rotate them so much and also running 65psi in the front and 80psi in the rear and that gets changed up when i rotate but i do that on all my tires and this is the first set I've got over 100k on...i honestly caint explain why these did so much better
Our roads here are twisting winding roads and you would be lucky to get 30,000km on a set of BFG’s I’m at 50,000km now and half almost half way through my second set of KO2’s
That is crazy mileage. I have 140k on my truck and I only pull a landscape trailer in the summer and I have 4 snow tires for the winter. I already changed out my summer tires with 50k on them and this will be the last year for my winters. The only time I rotate my tires is in the spring and fall when I'm changing from one season to the next. I read in one of your reply's that you also cross the tires when putting the fronts on the rear. I thought you weren't supposed to cross tires but you're are definitely doing it right. How many miles do you drive before you rotate your tires?
I try for 5k but i try not to go over 8k. All the interstate driving helps my milage too and i feel like the offset air pressure helps too. Truck says 65psi front and 75psi rear but i usually run 80 in rear in colder months. I don't feel like that's going to be typical. Even the tire guy checked the milage from last time because he couldn't believe it either. He said most he's seen it off a set of those it around 55k
Hope you can provide follow up on the Toyo AT3 (but I’m up in Canada Rockies, so “my mileage will vary”)
Did you ever get a chance to run your k02,s on snow with a load? If so how did they handle? Thanks for another great and informative video.
Yes we run always in the snow! Those tires handle great, his third set. And 100k on these tires! Good job buddy!
I did, they did a really good job in snow & mud
Thank you prius repelent
I agree and have had the same luck with mine as well. I am a snowmobile and winter performance coupled with aggressive traction was important to me- so far I have been impressed on sloppy roads, snow packed roads, unplowed lots, drifts…all the stuff a sledder sees.
@@CFarmer welcome brother!!!
how are the toyos holding up? can you give us a quick tread depth and review update?
I had to take them off at 7500 miles. They were shaking the truck pretty bad. Not sure if there was a broken belt or what the deal was
Thanks for all the useful info! On a scale of 1-10 (1 being the lowest) how's the road noise?
On the toyos. I really caint give a honest opinion because one of them had a broke belt right out of the box and i fell like it made a lot more noise than the rest. If i had to give a honest answer knowing that I'd say where the bfg would be a 3 the toyos would be a 6. The one with broke belt was singing pretty loud. I pulled them off after 2nd trip
Thank you. Gotta say, you've been a lifesaver with all your info! Thank you.
Glad to help
I gonna get the new tire soon, between the AT3 and KO2.
I wonder which one would you prefer during winter weather? such as snow, ice and wet weather?
I prefer the ko2 all day myself. I didn't care for the toyos.i know lots of people love them. One of mine were egg shaped and another had a broke belt so i may not be giving them a fair shot. Snow and mud i had to lock into 4wd in places the ko2 and the michelins i have on here now go in 2wd
@@CFarmer sound like my next set of tires will be BFG now.
Thanks so much
I hope you have a good of luck out of them as i did. They are squirly at first but it goes away after around 10k miles
How are you likeing the at3s so far? I have a set on my jeep 305/70/17 and are the best set I have ever put on it. I want a set for the truck but there are no 275/70/18 at3s no where in the usa right now 😢. I might have 10k miles left on the factory Goodyears. Might have to get another set and wait till the at3s are available.
Well, one of mine was out of round and i had to have them taken off. They couldn't get another set and the only thing available in 265/60R20 was michelin defenders. I put 7500 miles on the toyos and it was bad because of that one. I have 1800 on the michelins and so far so good
@@CFarmer so you don’t recommend them?
I think they'd be ok, i just got a bad one and couldn't get another set. I think they'd be a good tire and i just got a bad one. I would try another set if they were available
That’s insane, I wonder if my set was defective I got roughly 35k miles on them and they’re done for.
THE TOYO OPEN COUNTRY AT3 WILL BLOW THE BFG AWAY. I HAVE BOTH AND THE TOYOS ARE FAR BETTER IN RAIN, DIRT, AND ESPECIALLY SNOW AND ICE. THEY ARE WEEL WORTH BEING $178 MORE THAN THE BFG WHICH ARE OVER PRICED.
IF YOU ROTATE ‘’PROPERLY ‘’ EVERY 6,000 MILES YOU WILL GET 92-98,000 MILES EASILY.
There are a ton of people that love them but i didn't have that experience. One had a broke belt right off the bat and i was locking into 4 wheel drive in places the bfgs (and the michelins i have on now) went in 2wd and the toyos being $200. More a set...i was extremely disappointed
How much did the Toyo run compared to the BFG? I am running Firestone AT2 right now.
They were $1450. even out the door and the BFG were $1225. For the last set but that's been a while ago. He didn't give me a price on bfg this time because they were unavailable
Any updates on the Toyo tires?
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Did I miss the load rating? C or E?
Don't know if you have tried them or not but I had a set of yokohama geolandar at & I got 93k out of them & while living on a gravel road
That's awesome, I'm going to look them up
Will be very interested on your initial feedback after your first month to see if they walk at first like the bfg
They definitely walk. Maby not as much as the bfg but very noticeable
How’s the AT3s doing over a year later ?
what PSI are you running, they do look full... not saying thats bad, but they look more inflated than my ko2s when i had them.
I run 65 in the front and 75 in rear. They're E rated and call for 80psi but truck calls for 65 and 75
@@CFarmer ahh gotcha. I run LT on all my pickups, I think the good wear might be relate to the higher psi.. i've always ran a higher psi going from P rated (say 35psi on door) to an LT (usually go 40/42) but that may not actually be high enough.... all my LT all terrain type tires always appear more flat across the tire profile than yours do in the video (obviously because of PSI)... i may push that up to 50. I generally tend to get some wear on the sides, but then again i'm more city than you.
I think the higher pressure helps too. I think when i rotate changing the pressure may help some too
I’m going with the AT3.
Let me know how you like them. I've got a pretty aggressive vibration tonight. Hope it's the tires but feels like a u joint
What's your rotation pattern? That's amazing to see how long they lasted
Every 5 to 8k moving moving rear straight to front then kris cross front to rear. I ordered another set last month. Haven't got them yet
@@CFarmer good to know thanks a bunch 😬
They really make a tread-depth-meter? I thought I was supposed to use a penny.
Usually only about $5 at any auto parts store.
The penny works too though :)
Does your new tires have allot of road noise
They're about the same as the bfg. They're some but it's not too bad
So what about the road noise? I'm told BFG. Has a whirling sound at at 60 on the highway.
The difference between the two?
There was some with the bfgs but i noticed more with the toyos but it's not really fair for me to say because one of the toyos were defective (bad out of round).i had to take them off. Have michelin defenders on now
So what would you say the quietest tires you ever had on the highway
The bfgs weren't bad at all but there was some noise but i caint hear the michelins at all or the goodyears that were on it when i bought it. As far as an all terrain I've only ran the bfg and toyo and the toyos were significantly more noise than the bfg.i would have bfg ko2s on here now if i could find a set
Did you notice the nail in the tire at 3:25?
I didn't, lol
I’m meant to ask…… what pressures are you running
I run 65psi in the front and 80psi in the rear in the winter and 75 in the rear in the hotter months. When i rotate i just move the rears straight forward and cross the fronts to the rear swapping sides
Should’ve got the K03’s
I just got 285 55 r20 bf Goodrich.
I'll bet ya miss them ko2
How you making out with the Toyos
Any updates on the toyos?
One of them had a broken belt and one was out of round. Took them off at 7k miles. A lot of people love them but i doubt I'll buy another set
You still have a lot of life left in those
Yea, i was very impressed with how they did
Tires wear has a lot to do on how heavy ones foot is. Guilty.
I agree completely
I have 42,000kms and my KO2’s are shot. All highway commuting kilometers and these are done, absolute junk never buy another BFG tire again. Back to my Goodyears!
Hate to hear that
I'm with that guy. Felt like I was riding with the Flintstones.
Sounds like yall don’t rotate yall tires or alignment or balance at the right time every oil change or 5,000 miles
One or two haters in every crowed. I’m sure they have never run BFG AT’s of any kind. I started with them in 1982 and have them on a Gladiator and XJ now. Only tire to buy for all around use !
Toyos will be a disappointment compared to the bfg's
I was disappointed in the toyos. They looked ok but i didn't like anything else about them