I just moved to the PNW and looking at tires for my Tacoma. Always loved Duratracs but worried for this wet area since they suck in the wet. Falken are high on my list.
@@ThatPNWlyfe even in deep snow? That’s where the Duratracs beat every other tire I’ve ever tried. I plan on hitting the Cascades and Banff this winter.
@@Thatbeardedguy86 If you're talking about driving on snowy roads, I would go Falken. If you're going offroad in the winter, get something meatier. I drive to White Pass every weekend to ski with my family and the Falkens are great. They're fine offroad if it doesn't get too deep (less than 8" of snow).
Something that is important to those of us in live in colder climates is whether a tyre is 3 peak mountain snowflake rated as this enables year round use instead of having to have a second set of winter tyres (this is a legal requirement in many places).
This video has made my decision so much easier. The side by side of all these options really helped. I will be going with the Falken Wildpwsks for my 5th gen 4Runner
I’ll be putting the Falken Wildpeak AT3W on my Tacoma TRD Off Road. Falken has just came out with the AT4W tires for full size pickups as well. It’s better for off roading and corners, it I’m off roading about 20% of the time here in the PNW, in the USA
@@wes4842 I haven’t purchased any new tires yet as my TRD has only 12K miles. The AT3W will work better for me and our winter weather, plus they last longer than the AT4W. The AT3W is better in the rain and we get a Lot in the spring and fall. We normally get 5-7 feet of snow every winter. We live on a private road that we have to plow and maintain ourselves. We also live 5 miles from town (25 miles from the city) up on a mountain.
Having owned over half of these tires on various rigs over the years I can say that I almost always find myself favoring the BFG KO2's overall. The Toyo R/T's have been one of my favorites as well but they are quite heavy compared to the others in the range. The last two are more of a Hybrid than a true AT so it's almost unfair to show them in this comparison as there is certainly a Hybrid class of tires on the market today for those favoring something between an AT and a full blown MT. I am excited to see the new Toyo RT Trail as well as the rumored BFG KO3.
Our son works for a drilling company and they have a lot of 4x4 3/4 ton work trucks. They tried various tires and had their share of failures. They finally settled on the BF Goodrich KO 2.
I have the Razr AT’s on my 2008 Wrangler. I can’t complain about them. I’m not off road a lot, but I feel confident that they won’t let me get stuck when I am. Plus, they’re pretty comfortable on-road, and the tire noise isn’t really that bad.
I've ran the Yokahoma G015 as a winter tire for.the last 4 years and they have performed great in all Canadian Prairie and Rocky Mountain conditions! Put 300lbs of sand bags in the box of my 2017 Ford F150 and I'm not worried about blizzard or slushy highway conditions. Very happy with their longevity!
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Went with the Yoko Geolander’s on my XC90. 70/30 is exactly the percentage we spend our time on the highway vs off road and it’s served well. Might get slightly more aggressive when it’s time to swap but only because we intend to spend more time off road. Great overview.
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I have YOKO GO15 on an '04 V6 AWD Highlander since November 2017 and they've been fantastic in Chicago winters. I went with 235/70 × 16 That's one cm wider than the OEM 225 and I only gained 0.6 inches in diameter. I got five because I have a full size spare and do the 5 tire rotation so they've been wearing evenly. It's hard to lose traction on snow-covered or wet roads, but like other commenters said, they don't make you invincible on ice. I'm not changing tires twice a year, so I just take it easy and hope no one hits me. Driving to Steamboat Springs, Colorado next month and believe they've already had a little snow.
I have driven many thousands of miles in the desert and mountains of southern Arizona on BFG all terrain tires. Always have very good traction and never a flat tire. 84 4x4 pickup. 88 4x4 Blazer. 90 4x4 Suburban.
Do they have much road noise, and did you notice if they handled well in wet weather? He seemed to make it appear they aren't so good on wet roads. Finding the right AT is so difficult.
I bought a full set of Maxxis Razar ATs for my Ranger at about 40k, now at nearly 80, best tyres I’ve ever had. I’m not a serious off-road guy, but do a lot country driving, I would highly recommend them.
I put a set of Firestone Destination A/T2's on my '04 Chevy Trailblazer EXT last July. I have been extremely happy with them! I don't do a lot of off-road adventuring, but they have done really well in the rain and snow. They're fairly quiet on the highway, as well. Nothing bad to say about them at all!
I am glad to see you say BF Goodrich was your great starting point. I purchased multiple sets of BF Goodrich AT's and that was my first choice. Climbing 70% grades jumping a full size Bronco these tires never failed me. As a youth that was 1987. I went off course had to follow railroad tracks they took it, going over the rails. Taking the bouncing through the railroad ties like a champ.
@@rockymntdan1 Trail are different then the All Terrain that he showed us. Sorry to hear that about the BF Trail. Mine were the best tire for an 80s Full Size Ford Bronco.
TOKYO'S are even better i have tried BFG K02s and replaced them with Toyo ATIIs Open Country LT they are quiter, better grip in the wet and give better fuel economy on My Pajero the best Tyre's i have ever had.
My KO2 works pretty good on my 2021 Tacoma TRD 4x4. Took it for some serious offroad, 15 miles took 16 hours to complete, through Forrest, deep water, mud, rocks. Still happy with it.
@@JASmith-oy8db KO2 tire is snow rated. I did slide down a hill with them in my Tacoma TRD offroad which was a bit scary but it was a controlled slide. Snow driving tactics are more helpful then the tires itself.
@@useryggfdcc Agreed, careful winter driving. I’ll carry my chains or cables as backup since I drive a lot over mountain passes in N. Utah and at the CA/NV border. Surely the KO2s will outperform the stock all season Bridgestones, the limits of which I quickly discovered in deep slushy snow and mud conditions this spring-on a steep mountain road I should not have been on in the first place....
I have the Falcon Wildepeaks on my Ram 1500. Very happy with them. Very good in winter and in rain. They’re quiet and ride smoothly. I don’t off road so no experience there. I’m at 30k kms and they still look good and perform fine.
Just put on All terrain Maxxis RAZR 285/60 R18, it ticks all the boxes. My initial concern was road noise. Ride is very comfortable. Great off capabilities too.
Every bit of 50K miles on my Falkens. Such a great tire and lasted very well. Still running them. I may hit 60K mi before they’re done. They’re much more pricey now compared to when I purchased a few years ago. I guess popularly and other market factors had a play.
I'm a mechanic working on mostly European vehicles. I have a fair bit of call for highway savvy tyres on SUVs like Disco 3 & 4s, VW Touaregs & Mercedes MLs etc. where they tow and want a bit more grip on grass etc., (towing a horse float to dressage etc.). Have good reports from clients on Pirelli AT/R and also Continental AX6: both similar and good on noise and very good in the wet; have also fitted alot of Cooper SRX which have a strong sidewall so less chance of rock damage on gravel roads when towing 2.5 tonne+ caravan around Australia. Had a client with a Disco 3, put on Michelin LTX Force: he said it transformed the vehicle on bitumen - way more confidence round rural bitumen roads.
I just replaced my high mileage 10 ply BFG KOs that still had respectable traction with 10 ply BFG KO2s. I will finally get to try them out in the mountains now that the snow has melted enough to allow access. In north Idaho/Montana we have thousands of miles of forestry roads that are used exclusively for snow mobiles until spring. It is infact illegal to drive on them with wheeled vehicles during winter. So I will be cutting fallen trees to get into the good spots I love so much. I like that Australians love off road even more than most, not all, Americans and I always trust Australian off-road products as proven and I have yet to be let down.
Hey mate, sounds like you've got some amazing tracks over there! I think it's more a shared love. I'd really like to get over there and do some exploring 🤘
Very similar to BC!! Only we don't have the restrictions in the winter, if you can float on top, you can drive where the sleds go!! KO2's are amazing, have had a set on my truck since 2012/13, gotten me out of places that other guys have had to turn around at.
I just picked up the BFG KO3’s. Very aggressive sidewall but a tighter tread pattern. They’re gonna last a lot longer I think and be even better in the wet and snow.
Loved the Wildpeaks on my 5th gen 4Runner for about 3 years and 23k miles. Then noticed 3 of 4 has significant weather cracking around the bead. Which was a big let down for otherwise a great performing AT. Getting them replaced with the Baja Boss ATs next week.
Wrangler Duratrac tires need to be here! I've had them on 3 Jeeps and my Toyota FJ Cruiser. Great for all conditions. I've offroaded with them in all vehicles they've been on. Been in blizzards and they plow right through deep snow. No tire is as good on slick as as a dedicated winter tire; but, these do very well. Overall, I love the Duratracs.
Thank you for this information. I've contemplated between the BFG Ko2 & the new Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T! I really will plan on getting the Mickey's in a LT285/75 R16 for my 99 Toyota 4runner/Surf. However, this will be for next year, because I plan to invest in six of these! I just bought (6) of the Stealth Custom Series SR8's in 16x8 Dark Bronze! These are extremely hard to get in the "States", so I had to make a move on these quickly! The offset is -12 with a 4" back spacing. These will fit with some adjustments to the tub and relocations of certain accessories; however so, the look and capabilities will be glorious! 👍
Baja boss for sure great new tire on the market anyone that gets them have nothing but great things to say about them, including myself 33x13.5x20 On 20x12 -44 wheels
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First thing I did for my 2020 JTR was swap to 315/70R17 BFG KO2's. I've put all three generations of KO2's on 4x4's since '97, and they just keep getting better. They have been excellent, as expected, for 60K Km's and are ready for replacement after deer season. The 50K mileage guarantee is fine, but if you drive like an a-hole no tire will last that long. HOWEVER, the WildPeak AT3W 285/70R17's I took off have been VERY impressive swapped on to my '93 YJ. It's weird driving it with 12.5" wide tires, I've had 33x10.5 KM2's for years, but the performance on rocks is excellent, while snow is handled way better than muds, as expected. There is some serious silicon in the tread compound, they hiss on the road and have really good traction in wet for wide tires on a light vehicle. Definitely some surface hardening after being parked during the week, the noise changes when the surface gets ground down in the first few miles. Daily driving this old beast is more fun with AT's than MT's, not going to say otherwise, but I can jump up the hill and wheel hard aired down to 8-9 PSI and get fantastic results. Either tire is a great choice, with the KO2 remaining my go-to. I've also run Goodyear Wrangler AT's , Firestone ATX (blech) and ProComp AT's on various 4x4's to benchmark the KO2's. For dual use vehicles, please be realistic and get a set of MT's to swap over to if you want to get muddy. It's STUPID to bitch about "this AT clogs up in mud" - don't be that guy. I learned to be really creative about mounting 37" ProComp MT's on an '06 H2 every Spring, and getting that heavy ass spare on was a booger! Swapping 33" KM's was cake compared to that. Saves money in the long run, you're not grinding up your MT's for no reason, and on-road 3 season performance with 3Peak AT tires is just so, so much better.
How did you like the KO2 for ride quality/noise? I don’t really off road, but we get adverse weather here in the Northern tier so I want something that can provide a safe ride will not completely sacrificing ride quality.
I have had several SUV 4Wheelers starting with a 97 S10 Blazer 4 door, then a 2009 Ford Escape and now a 2014 4Runner trail. The Blazer and the Escape came with street oriented tires and they were not good off road. I did upgrade the Blazer to Interco Trxus STX tires and they were super aggressive, noisy and wore out quickly. Great off road though. On the Escape we upgraded to the Pirelli Scorpion AT+ great tires on and off road. Nice and quiet 3 peak rated great in snow. On the 4Runner it came with General grabber AT+ good tires on road, quiet. Similar tread to Goodrich KO2. Not great in mud but good overall. Just upgraded to the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT. So far these are my favorite of all. Quiet and great in rain...Look forward to getting them in the mud and see how well they do in snow. We are in the Chicago IL USA area and get a lot of Ice and snow. None of these tires are bad. I would not recommend the Trxus for on road, and the others were great on rocks and wore well. Have had 2 sets of Scorpions 70K miles each set and would rate them best for on road and overall performance. Think the Baja's might finally beat them...
That's great feedback Kurt! Agree that the Baja Boss AT is a great tyre, and it would look fricken wicked on the 4Runner (love that bus). I'm running these tyres at the moment on my Ranga, and they saved my bacon the other night - I hit a patch of ice unexpectedly on a corner, and almost ended up in a ditch. I *just* managed to stay on the road, and I 100% think that's due to the siping and 3PMSF rating these tyres have. If I was on anything less, the car would at least be in the repair shop by now, if not written off.
Just changed over from Nitto Ridge Grapplers 285/65/18 to KO2’s 285/70/17 on a 200 series and really impressed with the ride comfort and grip both on and Offroad.
Nice, I’m getting the ko2 for my f150 this summer upgrading from good year wrangler. Heard it’s more comfortable on freeway and better performance off road and in snow. Can’t wait to go camping!!!
Aye, I’m currently rolling on 275/65/20 Nitto ridge grapplers on my F250 but I’ve been interested in the KO2s. Have you tested them on snow and ice? I love my ridge grapplers but the two weeks a year it gets snowy and icy here in Texas they absolutely struggle on the icy roads. For example, when I’m stopped at a red light my truck starts freaking sliding sideways lol.
@@Millsy67 Fair point haha! Where I live we get ice and snow maybe two weeks for the whole year, but when it does happen it shuts down my whole city lol.
I've been running the Milestar Patagonia MT for over a year and it is the best tire I have ever run on my truck ! low road noise and has been flawless on the terrain I see everyday !
Same here like them is like having mud traction in reserve but without the noise you should find out yourself but for most people brand is a most have ego
Had them on my truck when I bought it, I do 80% road, not good at all, not just noisy but also terrible vibration, bad tarmac grip on wet. Well just not for me. Those will shake all your bolts loose on road haha
Currently running 285/70/17 KO2s on my N80 Hilux Waiting on a shipment of RAZR AT Can’t wait to see/feel the difference Thanks for all the informative videos 🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹
Nice! Let me know what you think! You're stepping up from a 2 ply to a 3 ply sidewall, and a little more aggressive tread, plus the tyre has some more modern features too. Thanks to you for being a long term subscriber 👍👍
i drive the yokohama g015 daily on my dacia(renault) duster 4x4… perfect for weekend trips with roof tent! Low noise! low fuel! mediocre grip on wet and snow but not horrible! I mean my car is not the most ambitious offroader but let me tell you this - my duster with the g015 got me to some really far off places … the wife and i love it!
Got a set of Falken wildpeaks on my Triton, main use is boat launch and retrieval from steep banked rivers. Wet or dry they are performing brilliantly so far. Great review.
Good to hear Peter, and thanks for that! If you're keen, make sure you leave a review for the Falkens on www.tyrereview.com.au, as then it'll be in the database to inform others forever more, plus you'll go in the running to win a fuel card 🤘
@@TyreReviewVideos I will be able to give a better review in about a months time. The wife and I are heading off on a 6500 klm trip up the east coast starting on 01/06/2022. On and off road will be involved. Stay tuned.
Good review, with the considerations mentioned, also very important is personal performance expectations in certain conditions. I drive 95% road, 5% off road, but value on/off road performance around 50/50 %. Personally running the falken At3w I'll be moving to duratrac's or the RAZR AT811 to fill the gap (wet grass At3w's Achilles heel). Cheers
Good feedback! I'm thinking about building another one using examples of what folks would drive on for different usages, which might cater for the use case concept, where you're happy to go aggressive. I reckon you'll do well with the AT811, but you might get less tread life 👍
I agree, I really like the Falken AT3W, comfy, quiet, capable, durable. But yes, wet grass has been an issue for me and other people that I know with the same tyres.
I'm the same 95 % Bitumen/ Highway kms. I like the look of the Razr AT 811 Just wondering about there tread life on Bitumen permanently, would like at least 50,000 kilometres life at $380 a tyre
@@troymatinca6484 in my long term review, with my driving, I would have got 47k km out of them before replacing. Your usage may differ, but it's a guide. More details over here in the written review: www.tyrereview.com.au/maxxis-razr-at811-long-term-review
This is really well said. Okay maybe we’re only off road twice a month but we’re not just seeing loose gravel. My wife for work will drive 200 miles to the gravel, then do a 40 miles out then 40 back with some horrific mud or shattered rock or loose shale and off camber trails mixed in. She is 100 percent not going to use a winch or change a tire on her own, she plans to wait for hwlp. Even if 90 percent of her driving is on pavement everything depends on succeeding in that severe ten percent.
Had the G015s on my spacer lifted Subaru Outback. I’ll say they are the perfect tire for an adventure Subaru with a CVT. Don’t really need a mud tire or Rick crawler tire because it’s a CVT. Traded the Subaru in for a Jeep Wrangler. Came stock with 33” KO2s. I just bought 37” Wildpeak AT3W, hole I like em!
that makes me stoaked i just got a set, i saw a few videos recently and was second guessing my 1 week old choice, the ol "SHOULD I HAVE SPENT THE BULK PRICE FOR BFG'S" though honestly after i get my moneysworth from these im probably going to go a cheaper set if i still own the beast, just wanted some good shit for now ay and didnt want to worry for a good while
Nice work guys! Thanks for the insight OLDLUXY! Guys, if you can head over and leave a review on the website at www.tyrereview.com.au (FJaypewpew once you've got some KM under your belt 👍) If you're keen, as then it'll be in the database to inform others forever more, plus you'll go in the running to win a fuel card 🤘
I've been running on Kumho at 51's for about a year now. They are pretty quiet on the highway, really don't effect the gas mileage and have been quite good in snow, rain, ice and mud. I don't do a lot of "off roading" but I do spend some time on back roads and tracks. They also have one of the best warranties in the industry. And I find that they wear more evenly than the BFs, which I ran on for years. And yes, they are winter rated (cheaper insurance). They are also half the price of KO2's
Great review, I am buying a 4 wheel drive and picking the correct tyre is important. Thanks again, Mayberry a review on the Cooper tyres could be considered. Cheers.
For my needs i went with the Toyo at3 10ply 245/75/16 open country for my 03 Ranger 4x2, i have rocky ledge roads and ive never owned AT tires, and i can tell you they are very quiet and im very happy i did my research..👍
Just good to know you enjoyed it! I managed to do it basically in one take, too, from memory! Let me know if there's anything else, subject wise, you'd like me to hit up 🍻
10 ply 35" Nitto G2s on my F-150 - 80,000 miles on the first set and 40,000 on the present and they have over half of their tread left. Once you understand that air pressure is the most important aspect of grip, you'll pay less attention to tread pattern.
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Hey 666, I actually notice at least a liter per 100km difference between mild ATs and heavier aggressive ATs on the Ranga. Have seen this multiple times over the past four years 👍
Czech guy here Hello friend here I’m looking for some all year tires but also winter snow tires into that slushy weather over here and some 2-3 feet of snow somethings -20 degrees tires :😅😂 have you got something ? I’m using now Cooper A/T but in the winter tires slide so much maybe something between with grip for snow ? I don’t know much about Australia but know you don’t get snow 😂😂
Big fan of the falken wild peak at3w, great off-road, on the snow, and super quiet on road trips, I found that it wears faster than advertised tho, I currently have bfg K02s and overall I’m not impressed, they are noisier, have okay off-road grip but man they are terrible in the snow, they feel like all seasons in the snow compared to a winter rated tire, but they do last super long, I’m def going to switch back come next winter
Huh I have the KO2's on a gx 470 rides smooth and had great snow traction and they are super quiet lol...good traction in the mud and rips on the logging roads; I wonder if its the vehicle or what? Goes to show how different vehicles may have different results with different tires. Food for thought I guess
Had the opposite experience, found the AT3W P265/70-17 was harsh and annoying at 35psi, but loved the K02 LT265/70-17 Load range D, much quieter. Compared on same vehicle back to back
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD best truck I've ever had! (I know its an suv but I use it as a truck lol) but seriously I love it. Mine is highly modified and if I HAD to find something wrong with it....its ONLY fault is that damn gas mileage!! I probably get much less than you because I have over 500 hp and lifted all the way up but its such a capable platform and great at towing, 4x4ing, overlanding, cruising, and to me has a timeless look that turns heads and SOUNDS crazy with headers dumping out catless straight piped cutouts, not too mention its fast as all hell on 35's that are 325/17 meats 🍖 with a +15 or 20 offset on the method rims (think the back is +5 less) anyways as you can tell lol I love my GX!! My next project for it is building the projector headlight lens with halos and eyebrows that they charge like $1700 for (yikes!) that can be done for $500, and a level 3 metal tech front and rear bumper ($5k ouch!) and the 25 gallon auxiliary fuel tank in the spare tire well! Did i mention these things are the best bugout/SHTF platform go anywhere vehicle?? ....something tells me we all are going to need this type of vehicle in the next couple years if our world politics don't change soon....hopefully not though!!
I have general grabber at tires. They work well in rain and snow but don't handle nearly as well as the 3 sets of all terrain T/A's I had. Haven't had the latest BFG but that and the Mickey Thompson Baja boss A/T look really good for snow and maybe the falken wildpeak 👌
Today i put on a new set of Falken Wildpeak AT3 295/70R18s on my 2015 Ram 2500. Stock height and stock wheels. They look good, fill up the wheel wells nicely. Wheel see how they perform.
I'm running the GO15's (33's)on my two Gq patrols, very underestimated tyre for traction on and off road ,I follow everyone one with muddies(35's) even in mud clearance catches me out though , great value on my 5th set . Yoky's are awesome tyres .
That's great to hear Shane! I think it probably also goes to show that you don't need super aggressive tyres on much of the terrain that we tackle, too. If you're keen, make sure you leave your review on www.tyrereview.com.au too, as then it'll be in the database to inform others forever more, plus you'll go in the running to win a fuel card 🤘
@@TyreReviewVideos yes 100% , everyone seems to want aggressive/tuff look instead of actually how the tyres works and performs, yes these don't have that look they , so many judges them and are rudely surprised 😉
Im stuck between General Grabbers and Geolandars. Ive heard the Grabbers are taller than most with a deep tread pattern. Are the Geolandars bigger than the Grabbers?
@@JDMEXforme we had grappers on a 2013 bt50 , found them crappy for traction(on road) even in the dry, in wet was hopeless n dangerous ( I found them too hard like Bfg's), we put Yokohama's on and totally change the vehicle , what ever yokkys put in the tyres they are a very sure footed tyres .
Juat got the Maxxis Razr AT's a few weeks back. The side biters are easily the most attractive part od thr tire. Oddly the sides look almost exactly like thr Nitto Risge Grapplers they replaced (both 285/75/16) but they're skinner than the Nittos. Wish I'd measured. The edge blocks are more tapered on the Maxxis & rounded. Nitto's are really square like the Toyo RT. Happy ao far with the reduction in sound & a little weight loss compared to the heavier Ridge Grappler. Cant wait to get these off road before rhat hyper sharp new tire edge wears down 😂
In my opinion the best AT tire was missing, the Cooper Discoverer AT3 4s. They seem to hit the sweet spot in terms of inroad handling (Especially in the wet) and off-road performance with a very affordable prices tag.
Good to hear Matt! I'm keen to get my digits around them 🤘 If you're keen, make sure you leave a review for your Coopers on www.tyrereview.com.au, as then it'll be in the database to inform others forever more, plus you'll go in the running to win a fuel card 🤘
@@kirkdunn1379 just bought by goodyear, hopefully they dont go and tank cooper to elevate the name of goodyear, the statement was complete corporate "we want to change everything but we will wait 2 years"
I had kumho mt51's from when they were released. Switched a year ago to the maxxis razr at811 and I absolutely love em! Don't get me wrong, the mt51's were good, but they are not as good as the at811
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Would have been nice to have the Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac, the General Grabber ATX, the Toyo open country AT3s and the Pirelli all terrain plus as a comparison also. Also, are these LT tires or P rated? From what I can tell with all the research I did this week, the Falken Wildpeaks are one of the best and their prices have gone up to be one of the most expensive. That's why I'm not going with them now. I came across the Pirelli's and I really like what I'm reading on them as most of our time is spend on the road but in the Summer and Fall I'm in the bush and towing an 8500+ lbs tag along trailer with another trailer or boat behind that. My stock Wrangler SR-A have done the job fine but they are full of plugs and I had to put one in the side wall also thus is why I need new tires and don't want to experience a blow out while towing my camping trailer. Plus they are only 4 ply. 10 Ply is the way to go even on my half ton GMC. Hopefully the Pirelli's are as comfy as they claim to be.
Hey Sam, good to hear from you. The tyres in this vid are more tread pattern examples, rather than getting depth into the tech and the difference facets to consider within the individual tread patterns. It would have been great to involve more tyres, but then we would have blown the time out and it would've been more boring... you don't want to listen to me rattling on for too much longer! That said, a video about the difference between LT and P rated is on my radar, and there's a specific tyre I'd like to get into the warehouse to talk about it, as they actually have specific treads aimed at each option. I ran the Pirelli AT+ a couple of years ago and loved them. They're still one of my favourite all round AT tyres, so I don't think you'd lose out by choosing them. I gave them a good thrashing and they came back for more. Here's my experience with them: ruclips.net/video/pD1B9EGxEM8/видео.html
@@TyreReviewVideos I ended up going with the Falken Wildpeak AT3W. I got the 115S 8 ply ones with the stock size for my truck. They are going on this friday. Can't wait to test them out.
I run the pirelli at+ on my 2020 tundra and they’ve been great so far. Have 15k miles and I notice minimal wear at this point. I don’t tow anything so I can’t speak for that but as far as sand and snow they’ve been outstanding! And they were significantly cheaper than any of the “top” brands at the time
I am running the Wildpeaks on my 2018 4Runner TRD Off Road and am terribly disappointed with the wear. They are almost worn out at 27,000 miles plus they are getting rot between the treads at 2 years old. Wildpeaks are great in the snow but lots of tires are and most of them get much better mileage than the Falkens.
I am running bfg ko2 33 on my tacoma . I love them & just purchased a second set . I got about 45k miles out of the first set. I plan running toyo open country a/t on my silverado when my stocks need replacing.
@@officialWWM travelling back from Koombooloomba dam in torrential rain dodging pot holes at 60kms they stuck to the road with a canopy full of camping gear & towing a 4.2 metre boat felt very grippy
I have falken wild peaks done 55000 km so far still have 6mm tread left I love them.Ps I live in central west nsw so I drive in all kinds of conditions daily Would definitely buy them again
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I have been running BFGs ATs for many years. My current set is full of weather crackS at 20k. I will be going with something different this time around.
I personally have ran Yokohama and had one separate and blow out causing damage, also have ran BF Goodrich which are soft and nice but couldn't get the mileage. So far I've found the Hankook Dynapro AT to be one of the better values for mileage and ride quality and also for a more rugged tire the goodyear Duratrac was excellent. The tires were off road every day running oil leases on f150, f250, f350 trucks
Hey mate, that's sucks about the Yoko. It sounds like you give your tyres good punishment, which is awesome. I've been looking to get my hands on some Duratracs for ages, as there's lots of positive news about them 👍
BFGoodrich Allterrain KO2 is the best tyre, now have my 2nd set, the first one was soaped so the grip was better in winter. My car is a Nissan Patrol 3.0.Diesel.The tires are used as all-season tires. I am from Norway.
I only got 48 thousand km from the faulken wild peaks. Good in the wet but wore down really quick. I have since put 20 thousand km on the bfg ko2’s on my dmax and can’t complain. Fantastic on gravel roads . We also put maxxis razr’s on our mux and they are awesome. Great in the wet too. Probably my pick of all terrain tyre.
@@yaksjackswithsimonpimm5220 thanks Champion. Just went down to my tyre shop. Need a set if 4 obviously, plus the spare. So at $380 each, I would expect 50,000 plus kilometres out of a set, the tyre man at shop said I'd get 60,000 easy kilometres on highway/ Bitumen??
Intersting, yet no mention of the GoodYear Wrangler Duratracs. Why? they have been out for several years and are an EXCELLENT All Terrain. For the Record, I have always been a BFG guy. However, I am very impressed with the GoodYears.
Another vote for the Goodyear Duratrac. Certainly should have been in the line up, and while I'm running KO2 right now, I'd much rather have my old Duratracs again. Thanks for the vid, I'm considering the MT Baja Boss for the next shoes if I think they will compete with the Duratracs.
Hey mate, this was more an example list, rather than thorough. I've actually hopefully got some Goodyears heading into the warehouse for us to take a look at, so it'll be good to involve them in the videos 👍
The problem with the Falkens is that even the C rated tires are really heavy. I can get E rated tires in the other brands for less weight… Tire weight affects performance, braking etc.
Yeah, definitely. Although I guess that's the toss up for durability, too, as I've heard that there's some parts of the AT3W that has an additional turn up, which effectively makes it four ply. That's unconfirmed, so take it with a grain of salt, but might help explain why they're so much heavier than some other similar tyres.
Hey Alfred, that's an interesting question. I looked into it, and the BFG KO2 265/70R17 121/118S E is 24.22kg, while the Falken AT3W in LT265/70R17 121/118S E is 23.995kg. So the KO2 is still heavier in that size, but only marginally. A lot of it will come down to the load/speed ratings, where, for example in the same size, but a lower load rating (112 for the BFG vs 115T for the AT3W) the BFG is slightly over half a kg lighter. They're both heavy tyres, though!
I guess it depends on the size and load rating. In stock Jeep sizes of 285/70R17C the KO2’s are 51# each and the Falkens are 63# each. If you go up to 285/75R17E the BFG’s are 60.5# and the Falkens are 63# each so my initial comments are correct at least in the US.
@@explor360 That's some crazy variation, and goes to show that it can be different across the range. The tyres are generally the same globally, so your thoughts are pretty accurate everywhere 👍
using yokohoma in uae for almost 1 year on my 100 series, taking it for weekend offroad trips with family and dune bashing in groups. i recommend it for budget friendly, offroad capability and less highway noise. never tried on rocky trails. so dont know what will be the outcome.
Thanks for the vid. I've got (OEM fitment) Coopers LTZ Neon on my car and although they are very noisy (not sure if it's just the tyre or also the car insulation) I got fantastic mileage out of them and on and off road grip is acceptable to me. As a first-fit tyre they are up to 160K km and still going. Considering I'm not a slow driver, I'm very happy with the life. Starting to consider replacing them soon, so keen to find a less noisy tyre. Would love to hear from people in a similar situation and which direction you have taken and why. In case you haven't yet figured out, I'm driving a HSV Colorado
Any tire is decent now in days with the rubber compound from r&d. air pressure is key a lot of people don't chalk test tires for right air pressure. A harder compound will last longer but less wet traction a softer one won't last as long but will grip wet roads like glue. Don't go off the stock tire pressure when getting a different size. Bfg's are overrated. There's plenty tires cheaper that do better over all. There's just a big fan base for them especially since it's the same tire for years. No one want to be the first to try a new tire for fear of getting something bad and wasting 1-2k$ if it does ok most will get just from fear of a lose. Bfg ko2 everyone has herd of because of how long they been selling and style never changes just the compound 🤷🏻 they last a long time but that hard compound hates wet roads. But they have d and c load ko2s now not as hard as e load probably a better option if you love ko2 but hate driving them on wet pavement
Yep, very few people do any of their own research and just go with a name they have heard before. The KO2's are a good tire but until recently almost all sizes were LT rated and people would put them on the SUV's and get a hard on about their durability without knowing the first thing about why. Put a heavy duty tire from any manufacturer on a vehicle that is both much lighter than a truck and sees less severe conditions and it will be just as durable. The big problem is that even in more light duty versions they are still very heavy and for most buyers whose vehicle will never see a seconds worth of duty their OEM highway tires couldn't have handled they give no benefit but come with the expense of slower acceleration, worse gas mileage and accelerated drive line wear.
Sure thing! Consider there's going to be a bit of variation between the sizes due to the load range they're intended to carry, but yeah, there's certainly a difference between tyres once you start sitting on them...
That really depends on which company's marketing you listen too, really. Toyo, for example, are pitching that the RT is its own segment, hence their Toyo RT is the optimal one to choose in an otherwise unpopulated segment. However, in terms of the data on the back end, the RT comes under AT in most segments, and from our perspective it makes more sense to talk about it here, as it's more likely to be part of the consideration set for folks looking at ATs, who don't want the negatives that come with MTs.
Might I suggest when zoomed in on tire tread the focus be clear to view the depth of the sipes. Also display the tire name on the screen while talking about. Thanks
I don't understand why we are talking about how frequently we do off-road. No matter how often I go fishing to my favorite place, I always want to come back. Never want to be stuck. Not just once. Then I see get that I may tolerate the on-road tire noise occasionally, but safety on any surface is must.
That's fair. You know where you're going to be pushing them, and the level of tyre you need to go for, whereas I come across lots of people buying hard core AT and MT tyres, then just running them on the road and being disappointed, when they could have bought something more fit for the purpose 🤘
ko2 are by far the most dangerous tyre i have ever owned,from new they were crap on wet roads(tar & dirt) sliding all over the place. Going back to coopers.
This video is so helpful. I just bought a JLUR and I think I will go with the Yokahama GO15's in 33" (had these on my ute) then get a spare set of steelies with MT's on them for off-roading locally.
The BFG maybe the ‘boss’ based on sales, I suspect this could be due to marketing. It is one of the WORST tyres I have ever driven on a wet grease road. A good contender you missed: pirelli all terrain plus. I think one of the best all terrains, great on road and great off road.
I had a good experience with KO2 on our family Ute/ Sequoia in 265/70-17 load range D. Whisper quiet, supple ride, good snow traction, never had wet traction problem, and we get a lot of rain and snow. I didn't like WildPeak AT3W, terrible ride at 35 psi, terrible turning traction in snow, and loud wirring road noise. Compared on same Sequoia
I have Toyo open country all terrains on my Ranger . And after a year of running them they still look new , and handle quite well on road in the wet and dry . Mine is only a two-wheel drive so I don't take it on any real off-road , but I've had no problem on a gravel road .
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I have a 02 ram 3500 dual with a Cummins. When I bought it,it had almost new Hankook dynamo 285x16 on it. I live on yellow clay and if we had a 1/4 inch rain I was stuck! So, I went to supper swamper and then if it spun 2 revolution I was on the axles! I now have it back on 235x80x16 general grabbers and have not been stuck for almost a year. I work for a lot of farmers and if they break down in the field and my truck won't get me there, I don't go!
For those looking at weight comparisons between the KO2 and the AT811, they weigh (in 265 70 16 size at least): KO2 is 23.361kg and the AT811 is 23.6kg 😁
It was the nose in the tread for me. Great vid. Very informative with a side of humor. Makes you human and very believable. Subscribing to the channel.
I think I’m looking for more of a muddy. The last 2 look great for me if I go for All Terrains. The roads I drive on here get super greasy with even the tiniest bit of rain in the dry months. Goodyear Wranglers came on my truck and they are mediocre at everything and terrible in mud. Thanks for the info!
Hey mate! That's the balance, really. Muddies will be better off road on some terrains, but the ATs are better on-road. The aggressive ATs, like the Baja Boss AT, as really starting to push that boundary. I'm really keen to see how the BB AT goes off road 🤘
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One thing I have not heard in the reviews I have watched is balancing. I came off a set of Coopers AT3's SL rated and moved to a BFG KO2 E load rated and new wheels (that may have played a role). The KO2 with Method 701 wheels gained close to 30 lbs. 20 for the tires and maybe 10 for the wheel for each. The BFG and Method combo needed less than half as much weight (on the one that needed the most and even less on the rest) to balance. The Coopers never did seem to get balanced well. Even though the Cooper combo was significantly lighter and softer because of balance issues were less comfortable than the BFG KO2's and Method wheels.
Hey DH! What rig are you running right now? Oh, wait, we're talking tyres, not MTB... You're right, and I've noticed over the years that it's hard to properly balance the heavier tyres, and even had one recently that was way out of wack from factory. Another aspect is the person doing the balancing, as some folks do "pro" balancing where they'll actually work out the heavy parts of the wheels, then the tyres, and match them up so that they need less weights to balance them. Some times that happens by luck, too! It'd be interesting to have some sort of metrics on balancing, but it'd be hard to gather the data...
I have all terrain Mickey Thompsons on my n70 lux, I use it mostly on the bitumen with the occasional beach trip. It performs really good and it’s not noisy at all.
I've done the BFG on two different trucks over 12 years total. They are the loudest tire that I would ever put on a daily city driver that also ran off road a few times a year. I've made two cross country tips on two different vehicles with the BFG tires and they were both horribly loud. My thought would be to go with the Yokohama or below for a daily driver. If you are truly off road then the BFG would be a good starting point for the money.
I disagree. The Falken is a wonderful starting point and truly does give you the best of both worlds. I can get aggressive within reason offroad and then turn around and do a two thousand mile road trip on those same tires with no effort or issues.
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Been running Falken AT3W in the Pacific Northwest on my F150 and F250. For towing, snow, rain, fire roads during hunting season, they are outstanding.
That's great to hear Brian!
I just moved to the PNW and looking at tires for my Tacoma. Always loved Duratracs but worried for this wet area since they suck in the wet. Falken are high on my list.
@@Thatbeardedguy86 I had Duratracs on two trucks. Falkens are superior in everything except deep mud.
@@ThatPNWlyfe even in deep snow? That’s where the Duratracs beat every other tire I’ve ever tried. I plan on hitting the Cascades and Banff this winter.
@@Thatbeardedguy86 If you're talking about driving on snowy roads, I would go Falken. If you're going offroad in the winter, get something meatier. I drive to White Pass every weekend to ski with my family and the Falkens are great. They're fine offroad if it doesn't get too deep (less than 8" of snow).
Something that is important to those of us in live in colder climates is whether a tyre is 3 peak mountain snowflake rated as this enables year round use instead of having to have a second set of winter tyres (this is a legal requirement in many places).
Good point mate! We usually touch on those in our individual tyre overviews, as it's a pretty key thing 👍
the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT is right on the sidewall 3 peak mountain snowflake
Should be a legal requirement in any place that has a snow season.
Absolutely, I chose the Grabber ATX because it performs decent on the ice compared with other AT.
even the kumho at51 has it, awesome AT tire for it's price
This video has made my decision so much easier. The side by side of all these options really helped. I will be going with the Falken Wildpwsks for my 5th gen 4Runner
I’ll be putting the Falken Wildpeak AT3W on my Tacoma TRD Off Road.
Falken has just came out with the AT4W tires for full size pickups as well.
It’s better for off roading and corners, it I’m off roading about 20% of the time here in the PNW, in the USA
@@Doc1855 How have the Falken AT3W worked out for your Tacoma? Thinking about those or the AT4W with the change in compound tech.
@@wes4842 I haven’t purchased any new tires yet as my TRD has only 12K miles.
The AT3W will work better for me and our winter weather, plus they last longer than the AT4W.
The AT3W is better in the rain and we get a Lot in the spring and fall. We normally get 5-7 feet of snow every winter.
We live on a private road that we have to plow and maintain ourselves. We also live 5 miles from town (25 miles from the city) up on a mountain.
Having owned over half of these tires on various rigs over the years I can say that I almost always find myself favoring the BFG KO2's overall. The Toyo R/T's have been one of my favorites as well but they are quite heavy compared to the others in the range. The last two are more of a Hybrid than a true AT so it's almost unfair to show them in this comparison as there is certainly a Hybrid class of tires on the market today for those favoring something between an AT and a full blown MT. I am excited to see the new Toyo RT Trail as well as the rumored BFG KO3.
have you tried the razr a/t?
Our son works for a drilling company and they have a lot of 4x4 3/4 ton work trucks. They tried various tires and had their share of failures. They finally settled on the BF Goodrich KO 2.
I have the Razr AT’s on my 2008 Wrangler. I can’t complain about them. I’m not off road a lot, but I feel confident that they won’t let me get stuck when I am. Plus, they’re pretty comfortable on-road, and the tire noise isn’t really that bad.
American here. I just want to say I love how you spell tyres.
Haha, gotta love the differences!
And also how Americans say 'diesel' 😁😅
That's pronounced dee cil.
Aluuumminum
Alooooominum
I've ran the Yokahoma G015 as a winter tire for.the last 4 years and they have performed great in all Canadian Prairie and Rocky Mountain conditions!
Put 300lbs of sand bags in the box of my 2017 Ford F150 and I'm not worried about blizzard or slushy highway conditions. Very happy with their longevity!
Nice one! You'd cop all sorts of weather out there! I love that area. I've even visited your "head smashed in buffalo jump", which was pretty cool 🤘
Yokohama*
It's late and I read that as 3000lbs at first😂. I was like, no wonder you don't worry about sliding, parts of your frame are probably dragging!
@@farstrider79 LOL
Wish they would do away with the aluminum beds on F150, you wouldn't need the sand. They always need air bags too and still boat out towing a jetski.
I'm running the Maxxis RAZR AT's and they are phenomenal. Great grip, quiet, no slipping in the wet, and they look 👌👌👌
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Maxxis has never ever let me down. Running them on every vehicle I get
Handy to no mate, I want them.
And they look great
🎯🎯🎯👍
Went with the Yoko Geolander’s on my XC90. 70/30 is exactly the percentage we spend our time on the highway vs off road and it’s served well. Might get slightly more aggressive when it’s time to swap but only because we intend to spend more time off road. Great overview.
Cheers mate!
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Same reason I went for those, plus they're suitable for the winter use in Germany. Hope they serve well in my 92 LandRover Disco!
I have YOKO GO15 on an '04 V6 AWD Highlander since November 2017 and they've been fantastic in Chicago winters.
I went with
235/70 × 16
That's one cm wider than the OEM 225 and I only gained 0.6 inches in diameter.
I got five because I have a full size spare and do the 5 tire rotation so they've been wearing evenly.
It's hard to lose traction on snow-covered or wet roads, but like other commenters said, they don't make you invincible on ice. I'm not changing tires twice a year, so I just take it easy and hope no one hits me.
Driving to Steamboat Springs, Colorado next month and believe they've already had a little snow.
I have driven many thousands of miles in the desert and mountains of southern Arizona on BFG all terrain tires. Always have very good traction and never a flat tire. 84 4x4 pickup. 88 4x4 Blazer. 90 4x4 Suburban.
Do they have much road noise, and did you notice if they handled well in wet weather? He seemed to make it appear they aren't so good on wet roads. Finding the right AT is so difficult.
I bought a full set of Maxxis Razar ATs for my Ranger at about 40k, now at nearly 80, best tyres I’ve ever had. I’m not a serious off-road guy, but do a lot country driving, I would highly recommend them.
I put a set of Firestone Destination A/T2's on my '04 Chevy Trailblazer EXT last July. I have been extremely happy with them! I don't do a lot of off-road adventuring, but they have done really well in the rain and snow. They're fairly quiet on the highway, as well. Nothing bad to say about them at all!
Great to hear Flyboy!
Mine wore out in 27,000 miles….
I am glad to see you say BF Goodrich was your great starting point. I purchased multiple sets of BF Goodrich AT's and that was my first choice. Climbing 70% grades jumping a full size Bronco these tires never failed me. As a youth that was 1987. I went off course had to follow railroad tracks they took it, going over the rails. Taking the bouncing through the railroad ties like a champ.
I BFG Trail TA's once. Terrible off road, almost killed me in mud and a little snow/ice.
@@rockymntdan1 Trail are different then the All Terrain that he showed us. Sorry to hear that about the BF Trail. Mine were the best tire for an 80s Full Size Ford Bronco.
TOKYO'S are even better i have tried BFG K02s and replaced them with Toyo ATIIs Open Country LT they are quiter, better grip in the wet and give better fuel economy on My Pajero the best Tyre's i have ever had.
@@rockymntdan1 not the same tire at all. Don’t compare two different models.
@@jasonwestwood7092 I might look at them. I’ll never use ko2 again. Wore too fast
My KO2 works pretty good on my 2021 Tacoma TRD 4x4. Took it for some serious offroad, 15 miles took 16 hours to complete, through Forrest, deep water, mud, rocks.
Still happy with it.
Good to hear Mirage!
That’s great to know. Any experience with or thoughts on the KO2s in snow, ice, or rain?
@@JASmith-oy8db KO2 tire is snow rated. I did slide down a hill with them in my Tacoma TRD offroad which was a bit scary but it was a controlled slide.
Snow driving tactics are more helpful then the tires itself.
@@useryggfdcc Agreed, careful winter driving. I’ll carry my chains or cables as backup since I drive a lot over mountain passes in N. Utah and at the CA/NV border. Surely the KO2s will outperform the stock all season Bridgestones, the limits of which I quickly discovered in deep slushy snow and mud conditions this spring-on a steep mountain road I should not have been on in the first place....
I’m in a ‘21 SR5 4Runner by the way, or *we* are since my dogs own the back two thirds of it!
I have the Falcon Wildepeaks on my Ram 1500. Very happy with them. Very good in winter and in rain. They’re quiet and ride smoothly. I don’t off road so no experience there. I’m at 30k kms and they still look good and perform fine.
Good to hear!
Just put on All terrain Maxxis RAZR 285/60 R18, it ticks all the boxes. My initial concern was road noise. Ride is very comfortable. Great off capabilities too.
These were my choice, too. The combination of looks, performance and price makes them a great tire.
Excellent synopsis and description of a wide range of tyres. Thank you for posting. Cheers from Ohio.
Every bit of 50K miles on my Falkens. Such a great tire and lasted very well. Still running them. I may hit 60K mi before they’re done. They’re much more pricey now compared to when I purchased a few years ago. I guess popularly and other market factors had a play.
That's great mate, good feedback!
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I'm a mechanic working on mostly European vehicles. I have a fair bit of call for highway savvy tyres on SUVs like Disco 3 & 4s, VW Touaregs & Mercedes MLs etc. where they tow and want a bit more grip on grass etc., (towing a horse float to dressage etc.).
Have good reports from clients on Pirelli AT/R and also Continental AX6: both similar and good on noise and very good in the wet; have also fitted alot of Cooper SRX which have a strong sidewall so less chance of rock damage on gravel roads when towing 2.5 tonne+ caravan around Australia.
Had a client with a Disco 3, put on Michelin LTX Force: he said it transformed the vehicle on bitumen - way more confidence round rural bitumen roads.
I just replaced my high mileage 10 ply BFG KOs that still had respectable traction with 10 ply BFG KO2s. I will finally get to try them out in the mountains now that the snow has melted enough to allow access. In north Idaho/Montana we have thousands of miles of forestry roads that are used exclusively for snow mobiles until spring. It is infact illegal to drive on them with wheeled vehicles during winter. So I will be cutting fallen trees to get into the good spots I love so much. I like that Australians love off road even more than most, not all, Americans and I always trust Australian off-road products as proven and I have yet to be let down.
Hey mate, sounds like you've got some amazing tracks over there! I think it's more a shared love. I'd really like to get over there and do some exploring 🤘
Very similar to BC!! Only we don't have the restrictions in the winter, if you can float on top, you can drive where the sleds go!! KO2's are amazing, have had a set on my truck since 2012/13, gotten me out of places that other guys have had to turn around at.
I just picked up the BFG KO3’s. Very aggressive sidewall but a tighter tread pattern. They’re gonna last a lot longer I think and be even better in the wet and snow.
Loved the Wildpeaks on my 5th gen 4Runner for about 3 years and 23k miles. Then noticed 3 of 4 has significant weather cracking around the bead. Which was a big let down for otherwise a great performing AT. Getting them replaced with the Baja Boss ATs next week.
Wrangler Duratrac tires need to be here! I've had them on 3 Jeeps and my Toyota FJ Cruiser. Great for all conditions. I've offroaded with them in all vehicles they've been on. Been in blizzards and they plow right through deep snow. No tire is as good on slick as as a dedicated winter tire; but, these do very well. Overall, I love the Duratracs.
Thank you for this information. I've contemplated between the BFG Ko2 & the new Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T! I really will plan on getting the Mickey's in a LT285/75 R16 for my 99 Toyota 4runner/Surf. However, this will be for next year, because I plan to invest in six of these! I just bought (6) of the Stealth Custom Series SR8's in 16x8 Dark Bronze! These are extremely hard to get in the "States", so I had to make a move on these quickly! The offset is -12 with a 4" back spacing. These will fit with some adjustments to the tub and relocations of certain accessories; however so, the look and capabilities will be glorious! 👍
Baja boss for sure great new tire on the market anyone that gets them have nothing but great things to say about them, including myself
33x13.5x20 On 20x12 -44 wheels
I’ve tried everything in the last 11 years. BFG are in a class of their own.
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First thing I did for my 2020 JTR was swap to 315/70R17 BFG KO2's. I've put all three generations of KO2's on 4x4's since '97, and they just keep getting better. They have been excellent, as expected, for 60K Km's and are ready for replacement after deer season. The 50K mileage guarantee is fine, but if you drive like an a-hole no tire will last that long.
HOWEVER, the WildPeak AT3W 285/70R17's I took off have been VERY impressive swapped on to my '93 YJ. It's weird driving it with 12.5" wide tires, I've had 33x10.5 KM2's for years, but the performance on rocks is excellent, while snow is handled way better than muds, as expected. There is some serious silicon in the tread compound, they hiss on the road and have really good traction in wet for wide tires on a light vehicle. Definitely some surface hardening after being parked during the week, the noise changes when the surface gets ground down in the first few miles. Daily driving this old beast is more fun with AT's than MT's, not going to say otherwise, but I can jump up the hill and wheel hard aired down to 8-9 PSI and get fantastic results.
Either tire is a great choice, with the KO2 remaining my go-to. I've also run Goodyear Wrangler AT's , Firestone ATX (blech) and ProComp AT's on various 4x4's to benchmark the KO2's.
For dual use vehicles, please be realistic and get a set of MT's to swap over to if you want to get muddy. It's STUPID to bitch about "this AT clogs up in mud" - don't be that guy. I learned to be really creative about mounting 37" ProComp MT's on an '06 H2 every Spring, and getting that heavy ass spare on was a booger! Swapping 33" KM's was cake compared to that. Saves money in the long run, you're not grinding up your MT's for no reason, and on-road 3 season performance with 3Peak AT tires is just so, so much better.
How did you like the KO2 for ride quality/noise? I don’t really off road, but we get adverse weather here in the Northern tier so I want something that can provide a safe ride will not completely sacrificing ride quality.
I have had several SUV 4Wheelers starting with a 97 S10 Blazer 4 door, then a 2009 Ford Escape and now a 2014 4Runner trail. The Blazer and the Escape came with street oriented tires and they were not good off road. I did upgrade the Blazer to Interco Trxus STX tires and they were super aggressive, noisy and wore out quickly. Great off road though. On the Escape we upgraded to the Pirelli Scorpion AT+ great tires on and off road. Nice and quiet 3 peak rated great in snow. On the 4Runner it came with General grabber AT+ good tires on road, quiet. Similar tread to Goodrich KO2. Not great in mud but good overall. Just upgraded to the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT. So far these are my favorite of all. Quiet and great in rain...Look forward to getting them in the mud and see how well they do in snow. We are in the Chicago IL USA area and get a lot of Ice and snow. None of these tires are bad. I would not recommend the Trxus for on road, and the others were great on rocks and wore well. Have had 2 sets of Scorpions 70K miles each set and would rate them best for on road and overall performance. Think the Baja's might finally beat them...
That's great feedback Kurt! Agree that the Baja Boss AT is a great tyre, and it would look fricken wicked on the 4Runner (love that bus). I'm running these tyres at the moment on my Ranga, and they saved my bacon the other night - I hit a patch of ice unexpectedly on a corner, and almost ended up in a ditch. I *just* managed to stay on the road, and I 100% think that's due to the siping and 3PMSF rating these tyres have. If I was on anything less, the car would at least be in the repair shop by now, if not written off.
Just changed over from Nitto Ridge Grapplers 285/65/18 to KO2’s 285/70/17 on a 200 series and really impressed with the ride comfort and grip both on and Offroad.
Nice, I’m getting the ko2 for my f150 this summer upgrading from good year wrangler. Heard it’s more comfortable on freeway and better performance off road and in snow. Can’t wait to go camping!!!
Aye, I’m currently rolling on 275/65/20 Nitto ridge grapplers on my F250 but I’ve been interested in the KO2s. Have you tested them on snow and ice? I love my ridge grapplers but the two weeks a year it gets snowy and icy here in Texas they absolutely struggle on the icy roads. For example, when I’m stopped at a red light my truck starts freaking sliding sideways lol.
@@d.williams6891 no snow or ice in Australia where I live 👍🏼
@@Millsy67 Fair point haha! Where I live we get ice and snow maybe two weeks for the whole year, but when it does happen it shuts down my whole city lol.
How's the handling in the wet with those?
I've been running the Milestar Patagonia MT for over a year and it is the best tire I have ever run on my truck ! low road noise and has been flawless on the terrain I see everyday !
Are you serious? Those huge and odd thread blocks doesn't seems to inspire driving confidence
Same here like them is like having mud traction in reserve but without the noise you should find out yourself but for most people brand is a most have ego
Had them on my truck when I bought it, I do 80% road, not good at all, not just noisy but also terrible vibration, bad tarmac grip on wet. Well just not for me. Those will shake all your bolts loose on road haha
Great video you explain wet weather traction comfort and aggressiveness. This will make it a lot easier for the average person to understand. 👍
I'll add that to my list! It'd be good to delve into it with a bit more depth... how to demonstrate it would be the interesting thing...
Currently running 285/70/17 KO2s on my N80 Hilux
Waiting on a shipment of RAZR AT
Can’t wait to see/feel the difference
Thanks for all the informative videos
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Nice! Let me know what you think! You're stepping up from a 2 ply to a 3 ply sidewall, and a little more aggressive tread, plus the tyre has some more modern features too.
Thanks to you for being a long term subscriber 👍👍
i drive the yokohama g015 daily on my dacia(renault) duster 4x4… perfect for weekend trips with roof tent!
Low noise! low fuel! mediocre grip on wet and snow but not horrible!
I mean my car is not the most ambitious offroader but let me tell you this - my duster with the g015 got me to some really far off places … the wife and i love it!
Great news! Sounds like a perfect combo. A tougher, yet very highway friendly tyre 🤘
@@TyreReviewVideos was thinking of getting the same tyres for my Skoda Yeti 4x4, for similar usage. What do you think?
Sounds like a plan 👍
@@MattBotan I think they work very good but you habe to know what you are working with if its your first AT. ;)
HAD A BUNCH ... SINCE '08 BEEN RUNNING COOPERS ... LOVE EM!
Got a set of Falken wildpeaks on my Triton, main use is boat launch and retrieval from steep banked rivers. Wet or dry they are performing brilliantly so far. Great review.
Good to hear Peter, and thanks for that! If you're keen, make sure you leave a review for the Falkens on www.tyrereview.com.au, as then it'll be in the database to inform others forever more, plus you'll go in the running to win a fuel card 🤘
@@TyreReviewVideos I will be able to give a better review in about a months time. The wife and I are heading off on a 6500 klm trip up the east coast starting on 01/06/2022. On and off road will be involved. Stay tuned.
@@peterharley1922 That sounds like a wicked trip! Enjoy!
Thank you for making it easy to decide on which tires are best for your needs.
Good review, with the considerations mentioned, also very important is personal performance expectations in certain conditions. I drive 95% road, 5% off road, but value on/off road performance around 50/50 %. Personally running the falken At3w I'll be moving to duratrac's or the RAZR AT811 to fill the gap (wet grass At3w's Achilles heel).
Cheers
Good feedback! I'm thinking about building another one using examples of what folks would drive on for different usages, which might cater for the use case concept, where you're happy to go aggressive. I reckon you'll do well with the AT811, but you might get less tread life 👍
I agree, I really like the Falken AT3W, comfy, quiet, capable, durable. But yes, wet grass has been an issue for me and other people that I know with the same tyres.
I'm the same 95 % Bitumen/ Highway kms.
I like the look of the Razr AT 811
Just wondering about there tread life on Bitumen permanently, would like at least 50,000 kilometres life at $380 a tyre
@@troymatinca6484 in my long term review, with my driving, I would have got 47k km out of them before replacing. Your usage may differ, but it's a guide. More details over here in the written review:
www.tyrereview.com.au/maxxis-razr-at811-long-term-review
This is really well said. Okay maybe we’re only off road twice a month but we’re not just seeing loose gravel. My wife for work will drive 200 miles to the gravel, then do a 40 miles out then 40 back with some horrific mud or shattered rock or loose shale and off camber trails mixed in. She is 100 percent not going to use a winch or change a tire on her own, she plans to wait for hwlp. Even if 90 percent of her driving is on pavement everything depends on succeeding in that severe ten percent.
This is the most helpful video there is, please do more like it. I would love to hear about some of the other tires also.
Had the G015s on my spacer lifted Subaru Outback. I’ll say they are the perfect tire for an adventure Subaru with a CVT. Don’t really need a mud tire or Rick crawler tire because it’s a CVT.
Traded the Subaru in for a Jeep Wrangler. Came stock with 33” KO2s. I just bought 37” Wildpeak AT3W, hole I like em!
120,000kms on the falken at3w lots of gravel work , getting replaced in couple weeks and tred is still well and truly legal
that makes me stoaked i just got a set, i saw a few videos recently and was second guessing my 1 week old choice, the ol "SHOULD I HAVE SPENT THE BULK PRICE FOR BFG'S"
though honestly after i get my moneysworth from these im probably going to go a cheaper set if i still own the beast, just wanted some good shit for now ay and didnt want to worry for a good while
Nice work guys! Thanks for the insight OLDLUXY! Guys, if you can head over and leave a review on the website at www.tyrereview.com.au (FJaypewpew once you've got some KM under your belt 👍) If you're keen, as then it'll be in the database to inform others forever more, plus you'll go in the running to win a fuel card 🤘
Over what period of time? 2,3,4 or 5 years.
@@markahughes78 4 and a bit mate
I've been running on Kumho at 51's for about a year now. They are pretty quiet on the highway, really don't effect the gas mileage and have been quite good in snow, rain, ice and mud. I don't do a lot of "off roading" but I do spend some time on back roads and tracks. They also have one of the best warranties in the industry. And I find that they wear more evenly than the BFs, which I ran on for years. And yes, they are winter rated (cheaper insurance). They are also half the price of KO2's
Same experience here
Great review, I am buying a 4 wheel drive and picking the correct tyre is important. Thanks again, Mayberry a review on the Cooper tyres could be considered. Cheers.
Thanks John! I've hopefully got the full range of Coopers coming into the warehouse soon, and I'm keen to do a full range overview when we get them 💪
For my needs i went with the Toyo at3 10ply 245/75/16 open country for my 03 Ranger 4x2, i have rocky ledge roads and ive never owned AT tires, and i can tell you they are very quiet and im very happy i did my research..👍
how was it in the highway?
Wish I could buy you a beer for your effort’s making this video… Every 4wd enthusiast loves to talk tyres!
Just good to know you enjoyed it! I managed to do it basically in one take, too, from memory! Let me know if there's anything else, subject wise, you'd like me to hit up 🍻
10 ply 35" Nitto G2s on my F-150 - 80,000 miles on the first set and 40,000 on the present and they have over half of their tread left. Once you understand that air pressure is the most important aspect of grip, you'll pay less attention to tread pattern.
Can you explain a bit more about the tire pressure
The ko2 is the best tire in the lineup, amazing all around tire and also does amazing in the snow and ice.
Good to hear you like them Alfanso! If you're keen, make sure you leave a review on www.tyrereview.com.au, as then it'll be in the database to inform others forever more, plus you'll go in the running to win a fuel card 🤘
Hey 666, I actually notice at least a liter per 100km difference between mild ATs and heavier aggressive ATs on the Ranga. Have seen this multiple times over the past four years 👍
KO2 is the bench mark and has been fir 20 years
Czech guy here Hello friend here I’m looking for some all year tires but also winter snow tires into that slushy weather over here and some 2-3 feet of snow somethings -20 degrees tires :😅😂 have you got something ? I’m using now Cooper A/T but in the winter tires slide so much maybe something between with grip for snow ? I don’t know much about Australia but know you don’t get snow 😂😂
Big fan of the falken wild peak at3w, great off-road, on the snow, and super quiet on road trips, I found that it wears faster than advertised tho, I currently have bfg K02s and overall I’m not impressed, they are noisier, have okay off-road grip but man they are terrible in the snow, they feel like all seasons in the snow compared to a winter rated tire, but they do last super long, I’m def going to switch back come next winter
Good feeedback! What sort of vehicle are you running these on, out of curiosity?
Huh I have the KO2's on a gx 470 rides smooth and had great snow traction and they are super quiet lol...good traction in the mud and rips on the logging roads; I wonder if its the vehicle or what? Goes to show how different vehicles may have different results with different tires. Food for thought I guess
Had the opposite experience, found the AT3W P265/70-17 was harsh and annoying at 35psi, but loved the K02 LT265/70-17 Load range D, much quieter. Compared on same vehicle back to back
@@laynepipe8145 we have ko2 on our GX460... how do you like yours so far???
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD best truck I've ever had! (I know its an suv but I use it as a truck lol) but seriously I love it. Mine is highly modified and if I HAD to find something wrong with it....its ONLY fault is that damn gas mileage!! I probably get much less than you because I have over 500 hp and lifted all the way up but its such a capable platform and great at towing, 4x4ing, overlanding, cruising, and to me has a timeless look that turns heads and SOUNDS crazy with headers dumping out catless straight piped cutouts, not too mention its fast as all hell on 35's
that are 325/17 meats 🍖 with a +15 or 20 offset on the method rims (think the back is +5 less) anyways as you can tell lol I love my GX!! My next project for it is building the projector headlight lens with halos and eyebrows that they charge like $1700 for (yikes!) that can be done for $500, and a level 3 metal tech front and rear bumper ($5k ouch!) and the 25 gallon auxiliary fuel tank in the spare tire well! Did i mention these things are the best bugout/SHTF platform go anywhere vehicle?? ....something tells me we all are going to need this type of vehicle in the next couple years if our world politics don't change soon....hopefully not though!!
Great content. Haven't seen an unbiased review like this in a while.
I have general grabber at tires. They work well in rain and snow but don't handle nearly as well as the 3 sets of all terrain T/A's I had. Haven't had the latest BFG but that and the Mickey Thompson Baja boss A/T look really good for snow and maybe the falken wildpeak 👌
FALKEN, I have had the rest. Try them.
Get the mickeys brother you won’t regret I had the grabber atx they wore uneven for me. Ride was meh, but these Baja boss a/t are 👌🏽
Today i put on a new set of Falken Wildpeak AT3 295/70R18s on my 2015 Ram 2500. Stock height and stock wheels. They look good, fill up the wheel wells nicely. Wheel see how they perform.
I'm running the GO15's (33's)on my two Gq patrols, very underestimated tyre for traction on and off road ,I follow everyone one with muddies(35's) even in mud clearance catches me out though , great value on my 5th set . Yoky's are awesome tyres .
That's great to hear Shane! I think it probably also goes to show that you don't need super aggressive tyres on much of the terrain that we tackle, too.
If you're keen, make sure you leave your review on www.tyrereview.com.au too, as then it'll be in the database to inform others forever more, plus you'll go in the running to win a fuel card 🤘
@@TyreReviewVideos yes 100% , everyone seems to want aggressive/tuff look instead of actually how the tyres works and performs, yes these don't have that look they , so many judges them and are rudely surprised 😉
I reckon the company that comes out with an HT or light AT tread pattern, and super aggressive sidewalls, will certainly see some sales...
Im stuck between General Grabbers and Geolandars. Ive heard the Grabbers are taller than most with a deep tread pattern.
Are the Geolandars bigger than the Grabbers?
@@JDMEXforme we had grappers on a 2013 bt50 , found them crappy for traction(on road) even in the dry, in wet was hopeless n dangerous ( I found them too hard like Bfg's), we put Yokohama's on and totally change the vehicle , what ever yokkys put in the tyres they are a very sure footed tyres .
Juat got the Maxxis Razr AT's a few weeks back. The side biters are easily the most attractive part od thr tire. Oddly the sides look almost exactly like thr Nitto Risge Grapplers they replaced (both 285/75/16) but they're skinner than the Nittos. Wish I'd measured. The edge blocks are more tapered on the Maxxis & rounded. Nitto's are really square like the Toyo RT.
Happy ao far with the reduction in sound & a little weight loss compared to the heavier Ridge Grappler.
Cant wait to get these off road before rhat hyper sharp new tire edge wears down 😂
In my opinion the best AT tire was missing, the Cooper Discoverer AT3 4s. They seem to hit the sweet spot in terms of inroad handling (Especially in the wet) and off-road performance with a very affordable prices tag.
Nice! I've got a bunch of single Cooper tyres due into the warehouse in the next few weeks, so it'll be great to get hands on with the 4s 👍
Thank you! No one is showing any love to Cooper in this comment section! I will never own anything but coopers again.
Good to hear Matt! I'm keen to get my digits around them 🤘
If you're keen, make sure you leave a review for your Coopers on www.tyrereview.com.au, as then it'll be in the database to inform others forever more, plus you'll go in the running to win a fuel card 🤘
Cooper makes a great tire
@@kirkdunn1379 just bought by goodyear, hopefully they dont go and tank cooper to elevate the name of goodyear, the statement was complete corporate "we want to change everything but we will wait 2 years"
I have been running the MT Baja Boss on my Tundra TRD Pro for two years, great tires in all conditions, especially in the snow.
I had kumho mt51's from when they were released. Switched a year ago to the maxxis razr at811 and I absolutely love em!
Don't get me wrong, the mt51's were good, but they are not as good as the at811
That's great, Andrew! If you're keen, make sure you leave a review for them on www.tyrereview.com.au, as then it'll be in the database to inform others forever more, plus you'll go in the running to win a fuel card 🤘
Andrew how many kilometres do you think that maxxis razr set will get you?
I'm thinking of getting them?
40,000 kilometres, 50,000 , 60,000???
Yokohama G015 s have been fantastic tyres on my wife’s 4wd that tows and does a bit of gravel road stuff
Would have been nice to have the Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac, the General Grabber ATX, the Toyo open country AT3s and the Pirelli all terrain plus as a comparison also. Also, are these LT tires or P rated? From what I can tell with all the research I did this week, the Falken Wildpeaks are one of the best and their prices have gone up to be one of the most expensive. That's why I'm not going with them now. I came across the Pirelli's and I really like what I'm reading on them as most of our time is spend on the road but in the Summer and Fall I'm in the bush and towing an 8500+ lbs tag along trailer with another trailer or boat behind that. My stock Wrangler SR-A have done the job fine but they are full of plugs and I had to put one in the side wall also thus is why I need new tires and don't want to experience a blow out while towing my camping trailer. Plus they are only 4 ply. 10 Ply is the way to go even on my half ton GMC. Hopefully the Pirelli's are as comfy as they claim to be.
Hey Sam, good to hear from you. The tyres in this vid are more tread pattern examples, rather than getting depth into the tech and the difference facets to consider within the individual tread patterns. It would have been great to involve more tyres, but then we would have blown the time out and it would've been more boring... you don't want to listen to me rattling on for too much longer!
That said, a video about the difference between LT and P rated is on my radar, and there's a specific tyre I'd like to get into the warehouse to talk about it, as they actually have specific treads aimed at each option.
I ran the Pirelli AT+ a couple of years ago and loved them. They're still one of my favourite all round AT tyres, so I don't think you'd lose out by choosing them. I gave them a good thrashing and they came back for more. Here's my experience with them: ruclips.net/video/pD1B9EGxEM8/видео.html
@@TyreReviewVideos I ended up going with the Falken Wildpeak AT3W. I got the 115S 8 ply ones with the stock size for my truck. They are going on this friday. Can't wait to test them out.
I run the pirelli at+ on my 2020 tundra and they’ve been great so far. Have 15k miles and I notice minimal wear at this point. I don’t tow anything so I can’t speak for that but as far as sand and snow they’ve been outstanding! And they were significantly cheaper than any of the “top” brands at the time
I love my general grabber atx tires on my Toyota pickup
I am running the Wildpeaks on my 2018 4Runner TRD Off Road and am terribly disappointed with the wear. They are almost worn out at 27,000 miles plus they are getting rot between the treads at 2 years old. Wildpeaks are great in the snow but lots of tires are and most of them get much better mileage than the Falkens.
Very educational, especially the "nose in the groove" test !
We can only imagine what happened of camera.
I love the wild peaks, at first I felt they were too tame but it’s perfect
I am running bfg ko2 33 on my tacoma . I love them & just purchased a second set . I got about 45k miles out of the first set. I plan running toyo open country a/t on my silverado when my stocks need replacing.
The MAXXIS razr at 245/65/17 are a fantstic tyre in the wet & dry, much better than the Falken & Cooper which i have had previously.
Good to know. I have the falken now and have slid a couple times maybe 5-8k into the tyre
What are they like off road?
@@officialWWM travelling back from Koombooloomba dam in torrential rain dodging pot holes at 60kms they stuck to the road with a canopy full of camping gear & towing a 4.2 metre boat felt very grippy
@@mikeellis52 that’s good enough for me. Tyres are so expensive, I don’t want to get this decision wrong 😑
245 is sissy size tires 35inch and up
I have falken wild peaks done 55000 km so far still have 6mm tread left I love them.Ps I live in central west nsw so I drive in all kinds of conditions daily Would definitely buy them again
That's wicked, Willy! If you're keen, make sure you leave a review for them on www.tyrereview.com.au, as then it'll be in the database to inform others forever more, plus you'll go in the running to win a fuel card 🤘
Loving my baja boss AT’s, surprisingly quiet for how aggressive they look
I'm finding the same thing! I'm keen to see how they go as they wear further 🤘
How did the baja boss treat you and how does it compare to the newer AT/RT tires like the Geolandar GO17 and Cooper rugged trek? @@TyreReviewVideos
I have been running BFGs ATs for many years. My current set is full of weather crackS at 20k. I will be going with something different this time around.
I personally have ran Yokohama and had one separate and blow out causing damage, also have ran BF Goodrich which are soft and nice but couldn't get the mileage. So far I've found the Hankook Dynapro AT to be one of the better values for mileage and ride quality and also for a more rugged tire the goodyear Duratrac was excellent. The tires were off road every day running oil leases on f150, f250, f350 trucks
Hey mate, that's sucks about the Yoko. It sounds like you give your tyres good punishment, which is awesome. I've been looking to get my hands on some Duratracs for ages, as there's lots of positive news about them 👍
BFGoodrich Allterrain KO2 is the best tyre, now have my 2nd set, the first one was soaped so the grip was better in winter. My car is a Nissan Patrol 3.0.Diesel.The tires are used as all-season tires. I am from Norway.
I only got 48 thousand km from the faulken wild peaks. Good in the wet but wore down really quick.
I have since put 20 thousand km on the bfg ko2’s on my dmax and can’t complain. Fantastic on gravel roads .
We also put maxxis razr’s on our mux and they are awesome. Great in the wet too. Probably my pick of all terrain tyre.
I've got razr at's on my adventra, seriously impressive tyre.
I'm thinking of the maxxis razr AT 772 AT on my prado Kakadu as my next set of tyres.
But im mainly 95,% bitumen ,as I rarely go.off road?
@@troymatinca6484 they are great on bitumen too. Not noisy at all.
@@yaksjackswithsimonpimm5220 thanks Champion. Just went down to my tyre shop.
Need a set if 4 obviously, plus the spare.
So at $380 each, I would expect 50,000 plus kilometres out of a set, the tyre man at shop said I'd get 60,000 easy kilometres on highway/ Bitumen??
@@troymatinca6484 should easily. $380 sounds expensive we only paid $320 from memory
Intersting, yet no mention of the GoodYear Wrangler Duratracs. Why? they have been out for several years and are an EXCELLENT All Terrain.
For the Record, I have always been a BFG guy. However, I am very impressed with the GoodYears.
Another vote for the Goodyear Duratrac. Certainly should have been in the line up, and while I'm running KO2 right now, I'd much rather have my old Duratracs again.
Thanks for the vid, I'm considering the MT Baja Boss for the next shoes if I think they will compete with the Duratracs.
Hey mate, this was more an example list, rather than thorough. I've actually hopefully got some Goodyears heading into the warehouse for us to take a look at, so it'll be good to involve them in the videos 👍
Thanks for the info! Looking at getting the baja boss AT 255/85/17 pizza cutters for my 1st gen tundra.
The problem with the Falkens is that even the C rated tires are really heavy. I can get E rated tires in the other brands for less weight… Tire weight affects performance, braking etc.
Yeah, definitely. Although I guess that's the toss up for durability, too, as I've heard that there's some parts of the AT3W that has an additional turn up, which effectively makes it four ply. That's unconfirmed, so take it with a grain of salt, but might help explain why they're so much heavier than some other similar tyres.
@@TyreReviewVideos are the falkens even heavier than bfg's?
Hey Alfred, that's an interesting question. I looked into it, and the BFG KO2 265/70R17
121/118S E is 24.22kg, while the Falken AT3W in LT265/70R17 121/118S E is 23.995kg. So the KO2 is still heavier in that size, but only marginally. A lot of it will come down to the load/speed ratings, where, for example in the same size, but a lower load rating (112 for the BFG vs 115T for the AT3W) the BFG is slightly over half a kg lighter. They're both heavy tyres, though!
I guess it depends on the size and load rating. In stock Jeep sizes of 285/70R17C the KO2’s are 51# each and the Falkens are 63# each. If you go up to 285/75R17E the BFG’s are 60.5# and the Falkens are 63# each so my initial comments are correct at least in the US.
@@explor360 That's some crazy variation, and goes to show that it can be different across the range. The tyres are generally the same globally, so your thoughts are pretty accurate everywhere 👍
using yokohoma in uae for almost 1 year on my 100 series, taking it for weekend offroad trips with family and dune bashing in groups. i recommend it for budget friendly, offroad capability and less highway noise. never tried on rocky trails. so dont know what will be the outcome.
7:09 BF Goodrich is owned by Michelin.
Thanks for the vid. I've got (OEM fitment) Coopers LTZ Neon on my car and although they are very noisy (not sure if it's just the tyre or also the car insulation) I got fantastic mileage out of them and on and off road grip is acceptable to me. As a first-fit tyre they are up to 160K km and still going. Considering I'm not a slow driver, I'm very happy with the life. Starting to consider replacing them soon, so keen to find a less noisy tyre. Would love to hear from people in a similar situation and which direction you have taken and why.
In case you haven't yet figured out, I'm driving a HSV Colorado
Any tire is decent now in days with the rubber compound from r&d. air pressure is key a lot of people don't chalk test tires for right air pressure. A harder compound will last longer but less wet traction a softer one won't last as long but will grip wet roads like glue. Don't go off the stock tire pressure when getting a different size. Bfg's are overrated. There's plenty tires cheaper that do better over all. There's just a big fan base for them especially since it's the same tire for years. No one want to be the first to try a new tire for fear of getting something bad and wasting 1-2k$ if it does ok most will get just from fear of a lose. Bfg ko2 everyone has herd of because of how long they been selling and style never changes just the compound 🤷🏻 they last a long time but that hard compound hates wet roads. But they have d and c load ko2s now not as hard as e load probably a better option if you love ko2 but hate driving them on wet pavement
Yep, very few people do any of their own research and just go with a name they have heard before. The KO2's are a good tire but until recently almost all sizes were LT rated and people would put them on the SUV's and get a hard on about their durability without knowing the first thing about why. Put a heavy duty tire from any manufacturer on a vehicle that is both much lighter than a truck and sees less severe conditions and it will be just as durable. The big problem is that even in more light duty versions they are still very heavy and for most buyers whose vehicle will never see a seconds worth of duty their OEM highway tires couldn't have handled they give no benefit but come with the expense of slower acceleration, worse gas mileage and accelerated drive line wear.
The seating on the tire test is very important to us it shows how flexible the tire is. I wish it continues with all the tires.
Sure thing! Consider there's going to be a bit of variation between the sizes due to the load range they're intended to carry, but yeah, there's certainly a difference between tyres once you start sitting on them...
RT are not All Terrain, they are Rugged Terrain a different category from ATs.
That really depends on which company's marketing you listen too, really. Toyo, for example, are pitching that the RT is its own segment, hence their Toyo RT is the optimal one to choose in an otherwise unpopulated segment. However, in terms of the data on the back end, the RT comes under AT in most segments, and from our perspective it makes more sense to talk about it here, as it's more likely to be part of the consideration set for folks looking at ATs, who don't want the negatives that come with MTs.
Might I suggest when zoomed in on tire tread the focus be clear to view the depth of the sipes. Also display the tire name on the screen while talking about. Thanks
I don't understand why we are talking about how frequently we do off-road. No matter how often I go fishing to my favorite place, I always want to come back. Never want to be stuck. Not just once. Then I see get that I may tolerate the on-road tire noise occasionally, but safety on any surface is must.
That's fair. You know where you're going to be pushing them, and the level of tyre you need to go for, whereas I come across lots of people buying hard core AT and MT tyres, then just running them on the road and being disappointed, when they could have bought something more fit for the purpose 🤘
ko2 are by far the most dangerous tyre i have ever owned,from new they were crap on wet roads(tar & dirt) sliding all over the place. Going back to coopers.
I have Coopers on a BT50 and they were deadly. Rubber went hard after a couple of years.
Yet so many people have fantastic luck with them, weird.
This video is so helpful. I just bought a JLUR and I think I will go with the Yokahama GO15's in 33" (had these on my ute) then get a spare set of steelies with MT's on them for off-roading locally.
The BFG maybe the ‘boss’ based on sales, I suspect this could be due to marketing. It is one of the WORST tyres I have ever driven on a wet grease road. A good contender you missed: pirelli all terrain plus. I think one of the best all terrains, great on road and great off road.
Agreed. I don't know why people never talk about how awful BFGs are on wet roads. I'll never use them again.
I’ve never had any issues with mine and I’ve been running them since 2016 on 2 different trucks. 35’s.
BFG ko2 is like bald tires on wet roads. Horrible
I had a good experience with KO2 on our family Ute/ Sequoia in 265/70-17 load range D. Whisper quiet, supple ride, good snow traction, never had wet traction problem, and we get a lot of rain and snow. I didn't like WildPeak AT3W, terrible ride at 35 psi, terrible turning traction in snow, and loud wirring road noise. Compared on same Sequoia
Every person i have spoke to that has KO2's all agree they are shite in wet and all want to replace. Screw that. Waiting for my Ridge graplers.
I have Toyo open country all terrains on my Ranger . And after a year of running them they still look new , and handle quite well on road in the wet and dry . Mine is only a two-wheel drive so I don't take it on any real off-road , but I've had no problem on a gravel road .
I put 100, 000klm over 3 years on them, best tyres I've ever had
Great reviews gents! If you're keen, make sure you leave your reviews on www.tyrereview.com.au, as then it'll be in the database to inform others forever more, plus you'll go in the running to win a fuel card 🤘
I wanted BF and I was recommended Yokohama Geolandar G015 AT and I am happy it suits my needs.
Did you get the LT version?
Love it if you could throw the tyre on a stand that rotates them so we can see the side wall as well.
Great video as always
On my second set of BFG’s and will continue with that tire until I can. If you have doubts just buy the BFG you will enjoy them.
Hey Dario, good feedback, Out of curiosity, what vehicle are you running them on?
@@TyreReviewVideos 2014 Ford F-150, it’s a work truck and I work Constructuon.
I have a 02 ram 3500 dual with a Cummins. When I bought it,it had almost new Hankook dynamo 285x16 on it. I live on yellow clay and if we had a 1/4 inch rain I was stuck! So, I went to supper swamper and then if it spun 2 revolution I was on the axles! I now have it back on 235x80x16 general grabbers and have not been stuck for almost a year. I work for a lot of farmers and if they break down in the field and my truck won't get me there, I don't go!
For those looking at weight comparisons between the KO2 and the AT811, they weigh (in 265 70 16 size at least): KO2 is 23.361kg and the AT811 is 23.6kg 😁
Trying to decide on my next set. Its between the toyos, yokohama, or my old standby, the bfg’s.
Love the explanation, well presented. This will definitely help me with choosing the right brand for my needs.
I love my General Grabber ATX. Haven't used anything better for all round road/trail tire.
Just put a set of Hankook Kinergy on my Jeep Cherokee. Nice quiet tire, happy with them so are.
What would be your choice for a one year lap around Australia towing an off road van..And yes beach and all the tourist spots
It was the nose in the tread for me. Great vid. Very informative with a side of humor. Makes you human and very believable. Subscribing to the channel.
I think I’m looking for more of a muddy. The last 2 look great for me if I go for All Terrains.
The roads I drive on here get super greasy with even the tiniest bit of rain in the dry months.
Goodyear Wranglers came on my truck and they are mediocre at everything and terrible in mud.
Thanks for the info!
Hey mate! That's the balance, really. Muddies will be better off road on some terrains, but the ATs are better on-road. The aggressive ATs, like the Baja Boss AT, as really starting to push that boundary. I'm really keen to see how the BB AT goes off road 🤘
Cooper discoverer AT tires have a lot of tread, excellent traction in mud and snow and outlast pretty much any other tire.
Good to hear! If you're keen, make sure you leave a review on www.tyrereview.com.au once you've got some distance on them, as then it'll be in the database to inform others forever more, plus you'll go in the running to win a fuel card 🤘
I used cooper AT for my new Hilux 2022, so far good operating condition running road in Malaysia.
@@shaifulhusnirahman1199 is it lifted bro? Just got the same Hilux.
One thing I have not heard in the reviews I have watched is balancing. I came off a set of Coopers AT3's SL rated and moved to a BFG KO2 E load rated and new wheels (that may have played a role). The KO2 with Method 701 wheels gained close to 30 lbs. 20 for the tires and maybe 10 for the wheel for each. The BFG and Method combo needed less than half as much weight (on the one that needed the most and even less on the rest) to balance. The Coopers never did seem to get balanced well. Even though the Cooper combo was significantly lighter and softer because of balance issues were less comfortable than the BFG KO2's and Method wheels.
Hey DH! What rig are you running right now? Oh, wait, we're talking tyres, not MTB...
You're right, and I've noticed over the years that it's hard to properly balance the heavier tyres, and even had one recently that was way out of wack from factory. Another aspect is the person doing the balancing, as some folks do "pro" balancing where they'll actually work out the heavy parts of the wheels, then the tyres, and match them up so that they need less weights to balance them. Some times that happens by luck, too!
It'd be interesting to have some sort of metrics on balancing, but it'd be hard to gather the data...
I have all terrain Mickey Thompsons on my n70 lux, I use it mostly on the bitumen with the occasional beach trip. It performs really good and it’s not noisy at all.
Great to hear mate!
I've done the BFG on two different trucks over 12 years total. They are the loudest tire that I would ever put on a daily city driver that also ran off road a few times a year. I've made two cross country tips on two different vehicles with the BFG tires and they were both horribly loud. My thought would be to go with the Yokohama or below for a daily driver. If you are truly off road then the BFG would be a good starting point for the money.
I disagree. The Falken is a wonderful starting point and truly does give you the best of both worlds. I can get aggressive within reason offroad and then turn around and do a two thousand mile road trip on those same tires with no effort or issues.