My Experience with Toyo AT3
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- My Experience with Toyo AT3
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I had Toyo AT2's and they lasted 80k miles. I just replaced them with Toyo AT3's. they are the best tires i've ever owned in my whole life and i'm 50 years old. quiet, smooth, and last longer than anything else i've ever had.
FYI, I just looked up your size of tires and looked at my wholesale cost, the BFG KO2 is around 313.00 and the Toyo A/T3 about 289.00, tires have gone up a ton in the last year.
I put some on my wife's off road 4runner and so far love them and they take a beating daily on my backwoods driveway. Great in mud, rocks, and rain so far. Maybe 8k in miles.
That's awesome
I had a bad experience with the Nitto Ridge Grappler. Thank you for the update! I've been on BFG tries 20 years never had a problem. BFG ko2 is my favorite tire for Towing! Awesome video thank you once again!
Said no man ever
We have Michelin agilis cross climate on our 2024 Ram 3500 crew cab, long bed dually, high output and we love them. Closest😅
Good info. Thanks for taking the time to post that!
Yes sir, thank you for your comment
On my 3rd set 1set was toyo AT2 and other 2 sets were the AT3 never any problems. wear perfect and work perfect and no flats other than a broken valve stem and years of back and forth from nevada to montana and off road as well. Back in the day i had several bfg all terrains separate on me and one was a blow out on the hwy at 65 mph and the tire was only 3 months old but that just shows no matter what brand or how much they cost some one somwhere has had trouble with it.
That's it. My nephue hates bfg but they've done good for me and I couldn't give the toyos a fair review because of a broke belt when installed. Never know what well get in any name brand now days. Thank you for your comment!
Just bought a new complete set of the Toyo open country A/T 3 tires through the dealer that I'm buying my new truck at, mainly because the ko's are not available in 285 x 75 x R18's and know several people who claim to have a good experience with them. Had a tad over 100,000 miles on the ko's that were on my old truck and loved those tires. I only really used my old 1/2 ton truck as a daily driver, though. Hopefully, whatever problem that Toyo has (or had), they have corrected It. Good informative video, thanks.
I hope you have great luck out of them.
That's unfortunate. I've had the Toyo AT 2's since 2008 and the AT 3's since they came out and haven't had any issues. I've always had good luck with them.
Yes sir, i know other ppl have them and love them. I just got a bad set. I like the ko2s but this set won't balance out. They're not horrible but there not near as smooth as the others I've had. Stay safe out there bud
Appreciate the update. Yes I was waiting on it too. I almost put a set on my truck a couple weeks ago but my tire guy was having trouble getting some in. He convinced me to try NITTO tires. I’d have to say so far so good.
Let me know how the Nittos do. They're a good looking tire
@@CFarmer I will do it.
Nitto and Toyo are the same company.
Not sure what to think of mine. I have the Toyo OC AtIII and they are about 40% left and I have had three punctures on two tires from stones, and they didn’t do so well on ice or snow I ran the 305-55r20 on a 2020 GMC 2500, I did order the same tire for my wife’s Subaru we will see how they do on a small car. A lot of my friends swear by them on their suv so I am going to try them again but for my wife’s Subaru, now for my 2500 GMC I am going with the Nokian Outpost NAT heard some great reviews on those will see how they do.
Rim/Balance ,alignment ,suspension anyone of these issues ruined those tires ,35 plus yrs experience ,...vehicle alignment ,..tie rods,.. so on and so on.. Tires although easiest to pick on (AFTER GETTING NEW ONES ) is /are USUALLY the last/least of YOUR problems,..proper diagnosis OF front end is required ..looking beyond the tires IT IS CRITICAL ..IMO ??!! JUST TO CLARIFY im not a tire brand fan and i will provide whatever you want no opinions added ,they are all lets just say tires and do as they r suppose tooo dont be fooled by marketing !!
I own a small tire shop in Wyoming. Several weeks ago a friend of mine wanted a set of BFG KO2 tires in a 275/70R18. I got him a set and installed them on his 3500 Dodge Cummins SRW truck. One tire took a lot of weight to balance. About a week later he called me up and said he had a pretty bad vibration. I had him bring the truck by and I rebalance all of his tires. I test drove it and the issue was still there. I narrowed the cause down to one tire that had a wobble in the tire. I checked the wheel with a dial indicator and it was within .015. I put the tire on the rear of his truck and it is less noticable, but will probably still be an issue. It can happen with any tire brand, it just sucks when you are the one that has to deal with it. It sucks for the dealer too, because he sold you the tire and has to try and resolve the issue.
For the type of driving you do, I would think the Michelin LTX would be a great tire. I have a set of Toyo R/T Trail that I want to try on my 23 GMC Dually, but I only have two so far, and I am waiting on the other 4, they look very beefy. My favorite tire to date for traction in mud and snow is the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T they are incredible, but I just sold the truck I had them on, so I don't know how long they will last. I would only keep them on in the winter and then put on my Michelins.
I've had both the Toyos and Falkens, liked both and had no issues. Would buy the Falkens over Toyos.
I've never ran the Falken
Thanks for that video and sorry you had a set treat you like that. I've done 100,000km(~62,000mile) on my Open Country HT's but when looking found they don't even offer a HT anymore. We don't have snow or much mud here, just rocks and sand so I've never felt the need to run AT's, especially given that towing a car trailer is a fair part of the cars diet. I was considering the Open Country AT's due to lack of HT but I think your video made my mind up for me 👍
Thank You for the solid detailed warning Dear Sir. Much appreciated.
I bought the same Michelins you got. I have 35k on them and they still look brand new. Ride so much better than the Goodyears that came on it
Good information thank you. How long did you get out of the original Good Years?
@@jimm2442 35k. OEM tires are awful
I have 88k on the michelins and they still look good in center. They wore a little thinner on the edges but still good concidering milage
I had the same issue with 1 KO2..I had it rotated to the rear and no further issues...I believe AT tires in any brand are difficult to balance
Sorry for the bad luck you had. Be safe out there...
Yes ma'am
That’s a crazy experience. It makes me wonder if they were stored wrong and damaged that way at the warehouse.
That was my first thought , but there no way to know
I had a bad experience with BF Goodrich tires and was mad at the BF Goodrich and at Michelin tires because they make them. The tread came off two of the tires and did body damage. Buying a 2022 Duramax that came with Michelins, I was a little hesitant on running them. After putting almost 60,000 miles on them, I removed them and although they still had probably another 10,000 miles left I put new tires on for the simple fact I didn’t want to be put out of service being so close to legal tread height. When I bought the truck a year or so ago I had purchased the toyo at3 to replace the Michelins and now have about 10,000 on them and I agree they are not a smooth tire. If I do not get into a semi tractor, I will upgrade to a 19.5 wheel/tire combo to run commercial tires.
O wow, i hate to hear those came apart and if mine would have came apart i wouldn't want another set either. The more people i talk to the more i feel is a crap shoot with any of them. I think the rubber going into things now just isn't what it used to be
@@CFarmer yes sir! Quality is definitely out the door. I really did like the Michelins that I just replaced and felt they were a decent tire. They always held a balance even running on these rough roads we travel and were quiet. I’m pushing 50 and noises are starting to bother me more 😂
I feel the same as i get older
Wow I’ve had my Toyo at3 for around 6k miles now with lots of freeway driving at high speed and never had this issue. You must have gotten a bad pair or something!
I did. I know ppl who love them but one of mine had issues from the get go. I hope you have great luck out of them
Same, I love mine 👍🏻
If all your tire guy could get were Toyos I think I would find a new tire guy. I completely wore out the garbage Firestone HT2s that came on my truck by 50k miles and my KO2s now have 70k and look really good, i should easily get 100k out of them.
At the time i called everywhere i could think of with no luck on anything 265/60 R20. They seem to be getting easier to find now. Glad you're having good luck with ko2s
I ran into the same issues with Grabber ATX’s; I bought ‘em because the reviews were great overall, but had roughly similar experiences with them (although not as severe). KO2’s fixed that problem and other than being a tad noisy, they’ve been great.
I like the ko2s but i wonder if the rubber has went down hill and they're all a little bit hit and miss nowadays. Crazy how many different opinions there are on such a wide variety of tires.
Quality of everything has gone downhill thaws last cpl years. Between the lack of workers and supplies. Hack quality on everything.
I agree 💯
So glad to see ur up and running again!!!
Thank you, me too!
After some research & few utube reviews, including urs.
I got a set of Toyo A/T3.
1st 300 miles nice & quite fully loaded Kia Sorento 2.2 TDI Awd.
Hoping for a hard winter in Scotland & see how these cope then.
Also Toyo was £40 cheaper than
Bf Trail terrain.
2 sets of 19.5 Toyo's one set did ok, not good. Second set, like you a few miles and started shaking me to death. Had to put Toyo Steers on my KW, had one blow out at 65 mph with less then 3000 miles. Never own a Toyo again.
I only ran 2 sets on big truck. I wasent impressed...i usually ended up with Yokohama. They weren't great but i liked them better than others i tried
Honesty over popularity- Thank you
Ha. You did do a follow up, and I watched this
You did cover the TOYO tires on your San Marico video
Thank you! I'm thinking that's where I'm remembering it f from
Toyo tires are way over-rated in my opinion , Michelin tires are the way to go for longevity and ride, good video!!
Thank you!
As usual your videos and information are appreciated. Thank you.
Thank you!
Thank you for the review!
Thank you for your comment!
I’m wondering if you didn’t have something happen on the install to instigate the behaviour??
I’ve ran Toyo’s, BF’s as my favourites. BUT the all time best I’ve used so far is the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss’s. Incredible tires but you pay a lot more. I started into Toyos when I wasn’t buying big trucks anymore. Before that the BFG’s were my fav. In a lighter vehicle Toyos, even the LT’s are 10 or so lbs lighter than a BFG KO. So on my smaller SUV I don’t need heavy tires that cost MPG. It may be that the AT3’s just aren’t great for larger trucks where the thick heavy sidewalls or the BFG’s are just better.
Same issue first tire was warranted for out of round, rear end still shakes but I do have a standard cab and they are all terrains so I know they won’t be perfect but i believe you
I do remember that you did a video on this before, good video again lol BFGs are the best tire. I always run those , and have never had a problem 😎
They've made a beliver out of me
Dang, I just put Toyo Open Country AT3 on my 4runner last month. No problems so far, but I hope they don't wear unusual.
Yes, you did give an update on the AT3's in another video. When I need to replace the stock tires on my 2022 Duramax I will get Nitto Dura Grapplers. I had 2 sets of them previously and they are extremely quiet and can handle the ice and snow we get here in Vermont. Thanks for taking the time to make this update video.
I'm going to have to give those a try. I hearing good things about them
Wanted to get your opinion on something. I haul wood pallets with my 2000 Sierra 2500, 6.0L gas. I run a 10 ply mud terrain on the rear and a standard 4 ply AT tire on the front. I never plan to rotate these, and I never have over 4,000 lb's on the bumper pull trailer. I see this as being okay, some others have stressed I should run 10 ply all around. Trucks rated 7,500 to 11,900 but I'll likely never pull more than 6,000 with trailer weight. I run local, never more than 100 miles from home and carry full size truck and trailer spares. Thanks.
I see why people say that and feel that way myself but i never know what I'll be pulling. I think it's what ever you're comfortable with with your circumstances. I've pulled a lot of stuff on standard tires. There's a lot less sway with the 10 plys. I think that would be what kept me with 10 ply but if i wanted to try standard tires and didn't feel i was going to overload them if give it a try
Thanks for the follow up. I went with the Faulkin Wildpeak A/T 3 with the 3 peak snow rating. They have been great tires. The little softer compound then KOs so I probably won’t get the mileage but traction is very good. I have 45K on them now and they hardly show any wear.
That's awesome!
I have toyo's and never had an issue.
Ur the ONLY person ive ever heard to complain about them!
Well... if you pay over $1500 for a set of tires and they don't do any better than these did... you probably should complain!
Well add 1 more. I've had the last 3 sets of Toyo ATs all treadwear warrantied. They were at the wear bars at 30,000 miles. Alignment checked multiple times. Dealer said its been a crap shoot on them for wear. Some good, some bad....
Nothing but Michelin Defenders or BFG KO’s for me !
Me too if i can find them
I have been running Michelin LTX AT2 on last two trucks with great performance. I tried a set of AT3 last winter and also had one out of round that would not balance. Only tried them because I see a lot of trucks in my area running them and it was a nice looking tire. Returned them in less than 10 days back to the Michelin. Should have never strayed.
The michelins are doing me good but i feel the same about the bfg
I could of sworn you did a video when you changed from the the Toyo’s to the Michelin’s
I must have dreamed it, I thought he did also
@@jimdinwiddie4837 well Jim, we’re either both crazy, clairvoyant or sane! I have no clue which is better now a day’s! Lol
Me too. I'm thinking i added it to a rv transport video. Hope you're doing good!
@@CFarmer I’m good, gunna have a little knee surgery in December for a torn medial meniscus but I think I’ll be good as new (almost anyway; lol) after that! I’m in no hurry anymore to get in the business. It looks like everyone is having trouble getting loads so I’ll just wait until it picks up again and then I’ll get in! Like I said, I just want to get in to have something to do and keep me busy, but I can’t take a load away from someone who’s primary income is RV Transport. Hope all is well with you. God bless & safe travels!
Good luck with your surgery
Have you ever considered running Centramatic wheel balancers? I run these on my Duramax and my gooseneck trailers.
I ran them on my big trucks and trailers and loved them.i just recently figured out they make them for pickups. I'm looking into getting a set for my truck and Gooseneck trailer.
Go with the Coopers good quality
I am in the process of looking for a new set of tires. Currently have 43k on my original Wranglers. I pull a 30ft travel trailer and these tires have performed well, but always looking for real world recommendations. I will pass on the TOYO’s
The michelins defenders in running now have 88k. They've done pretty good
@@CFarmer wow, thats a lot of miles. I will give these tires a serious look! Thx
That's pretty much all interstate but overall i have no complaints
I’ve had similar problems with my Toyo AT3’s as well. A lot of bounce and shake. I loved the RT’s that came with my truck but decided to go with the AT3’s since they were rated for snow. They are definitely not good in snow or mud. I’ll be going back to the Toyo RT’s soon.
Glad to know it wasn't just me. I know quite a few guys that love the at2.
Had a set of AT2s and had to have rebalanced every 3k and they were always off. Always F load. Just changed to Cooper AT3s
I've looked at the cooper's. They're a good looking tire
@@CFarmer so far been to ID, FL and on my way to California no vibrations. Will get rotated when I get home next week
Nice
Just went from Nitto Ridge Grapplers to Falken Wildpeaks and they are so much better than the Nittos. The Nittos look really good, but now with the Falkens I can hear my radio and and wife talk. The Nittos were quiet at first but after 5,000 miles they got loud.
That's good to know. I do like the looks of the nitto and the wild peaks
I would've stuck with the Nittos if they drowned out my wife!! Just kidding. I have Falkens. I like them but they are worn out at 31,000 miles but can't decide what to buy now. I was looking at the Toyo Open Country AT3 until I saw this video.
Thanks for sharing your review. I am experiencing something similar with my Toyo AT3s in Lt295-65R20. Mine don’t shake or vibrate, but have a very distinctive flop-flop-flop noise as they rotate. I fear one or more are out of round or have something defective with belt. Ford and another tire shop checked over truck and determined alignment, steering and suspension are 100% good and noise definitely coming from tires, but can’t find anything obvious. Toyo customer service has been ignoring me. I fear it will only get worse with time. What else should I look at?
Problems like this will have average guy having shops look at his frontend transfer case u joints 500-1500dollar donation over a tire
Very helpful video. Appreciate it.
I definitely remember you talking about this before..
Me too. I talk a lot...i think loose track sometimes, lol
I’ve had 2 sets of KO2s on my FJ Cruiser and have gotten great wear out of them. Was gonna try the Toyo AT3s but I may go back to the KO2s. From one Tennessean to another, GO VOLS….
I just had a new set of ko2s put on and it's a big difference even over the michelin defenders in my opinion
I appreciate your video and feedback on the tires. I have ko2's on my truck now (287/70/17 on my 19 ranger). I love 'em, and I've had them at the offroad limit (and a little beyond) of my vehicle, and they do just fine. I get stuck in nasty GA-clay just like my buddies with duratracs, nittos, etc. They're well mannered on the highway too, seem fine in the rain. I really can't complain. Of course, I'm always lookin' for better, and had my eye on the toyo at3 when my ko2's die, but might have to re-think that... if it ain't broke...
Thank you! I feel the same about the ko2s. I still know ppl running the at3 that like them and I'm always listening to what ppl are saying about other tires but the ko2s are my go to tires. Like you say, if it's not broke why fix it
Im BFG man i think next set i get thinkin about nitto ridgegrapplers thanks for the review
There good looking tires. Thank you for the comment
I love mine! So far so good after 1 mile. lol.
I hope they do a great for you. Thank you for your comment
Hi john here i wish i saw your vidio before i went out and got a set of the toyos at3 i have a brand new 2024 ram 3500 and from 30 miles to 70plus mile an hour they are very loud and grown. Im not sure what to do any ideas? Ide like to have the dealership take them off and get the falcons at3 had good luck with them
Great Video Brother!!
Thank you!
Thank you for the video
Thank you for your comment! I appriciate it
Thx for the info 👍
Have you ever look at the GENERAL GRABBER ATX TIRES ?
I've seen them on trucks but haven't asked about them. They're a good looking tire
@@CFarmer I've run three sets excellent tire the tread is very similar to a KO2 , 10 ply and E rated , and are quiet running down the highway
I'll have to take a better look and check some prices next time
Thank you, i will look them up tomorrow
I use the ATX as my summers and the X3 in the winter.
That are both awesome tires.
I would also look at Yokohama Geanders.
Think you just got unlucky. Hope they fixed it for you.
I remember you talking about the Toyo being out of round. Great video, hope you get a load!
Thank you, hope you're doing good
Have you ever had any problems or heard of any problems balancing the BFG K02’s?
I haven't had any issues but I've talked to other ppl that have had to rebalance a few times
Hi. Is yours made in japan?
Probably got play in baljoints and bishings
Come back to the KO2s. 😂
🤣 🤣 🤣
You bring up a good point with Toyo tires, on my 1 ton dodge ram I had mud terrain‘s and they started shaking within the first 3000 miles brought them back in said they were out of balance they re-balance it was good for about a couple days then all of a sudden they start shaking again they couldn’t resolve the problem so I went with the all-terrain I think it was the at2 and after so many miles they started shaking and I went through the same thing then I went back to the mud terrain they were good for a couple months but then started shaking, and I’ve had this problem with pretty much all the Toyo the RT the AT and the MT, But never really thought about it I thought it was because my 1 ton was stiff now I have a 2500 with airbags tow heavy loads regularly I wanted a more aggressive tire since I do go on ranch properties and don’t want to get my truck stuck so I went with the AT3 which is a good looking tire fairly quiet good in the rain and good in the snow, but now I have over 3000 miles on them and they are starting to shake, maybe it’s the rubber compound maybe it’s the glue I don’t know what it is but Toyos have a tendency to shake and a lot of folks I’ve talk to you going through the same thing. But what I have noticed most people with stiffer riding trucks notice it RE 1 ton dodge whether it’s Dooley or single definitely noticeable in my 2500 with the airbags rides fairly stiff
Wow and toyos are what I was gonna get 8:13
Damn! I just ordered a set of AT3's!!
I still see a lot of ppl that like them. I hope you have really good luck with them. I talked to a guy this morning who had a bf Goodrich come apart on him. I don't think the rubber we get nowadays is as good as what we're used to and that makes them all hit and miss. Let me know how you like them
I just put new ones on yesterday then seen this video
how's your experience with it?
@@lifewithlana7275 how's your experience with it?
Definitely a bad set of tires
Toyo AT3's have 500 mile return Policy -You waited to long dude! I bought a set 295/65R20 when they came out in 2020 and I can go 80-90 MPH on a Texas Toll Road, smooth as silk.