Pollard is the man...ask any pro golfer how difficult it is, in terms of pressure, to drop even a short put from a meter. You really need a special mindset to achieve what he did. He's the Tiger of rugby.
As a sportsman i really cant name any player that stood out, that entire team really stood out together each one complemented each other. ❤love you Bokke!! Thanks for giving us a smile. And you really sparked The Proteas and i hope the same will follow for Bafana
@@wesohall Rush defence running inward still has weakness out wide, only France & Ireland exploited our weakness wide on defence. Pieter-Steph du Toit tackled like a trojan, the forwards were all immense. The backs did superb, Kolbe immense on defence against Will Jordan.
Everybody has overlooked Kwagga and the major impact he had in Every game, when he came on.... The number of turnovers and absolute in your face grappling in defence was absolutely astounding....... He turned games in our favour especially at the end..... Like a caged lion let loose.
The man is a massive player. What I respect the most is there's no ego about him. Just a dogged determination to get SA over the finish line. He's not just brawn, he's got brains too. Somehow, like Am, he seems to take the best decision each time
He drained Dupont to the point of collapse. Faf plays an exceptional role...even covers wing from scrumhalf. He is like having an extra defensive forward. Fabulous player and key to our success.
Regarding the cards, there is a video of the 28 tackles that PSdT made. None of them were close to being a card. Others can learn from this. The film "Concussion" is worth the watch. I thought the Frizell card was cynical and worth a red card (he was taking out our hooker - probably a targeted player). As for the Kiwi cynically disrupting Faf getting to the ball when we were within 5m of their line at the start of the match - I thought that should have been the first card! (If the Kiwi's didn't have a policy of "give away a penalty if it prevents a try", I would be more accommodating.)
First team to win the Final after losing a pool game (2019), first team to win the Final after being BEHIND at half-time (2023), first team to win THREE Final-intensity games in a row after being behind at half-time (2023) - each of which were won in the last fifteen minutes ... leading one to recognize the genius of the Bok coaching and management team ... and the leadership of Siya, Eben, Duane, Kriel, Willemse ...
@@williambotha5864 great achievement for a fantastic team! And also won after they targeted our only hooker, to try to weaken our set price - which worked, but we still won
I think any realistic person in NZ didn't consider ABs favourites. ABs did fantastic against Ireland and as expected against Argentina but the 2 years prior are still the 2 years prior and there were still weaknesses that could be exploited, and SA winning more than 1 game by 1 point against top teams isn't just luck.
Truly a fantastic squad effort all-round. With Rassie's fall-out with WR and the refs I feared the worst but we received fair officiating. I must say our discipline under the coaching team for the past 6 years has been the best in my memory going back 40 years.
I think you're right, in the past 50/50 calls went against the Boks, but lately more 50/50 calls went mostly for the boks and that is why the opposition criticized the refs more.
I don't understand why people keep saying rugby isn't growing as a sport. Where are the stats that shows that? The stats that I saw was that this was the most watched world cup ever.
Remember that Rassie and Jacques started consulting with Nigel Owens over the last year - that could be why we finally got on the right side of the refs. Knowing Rassie, he was probably studying the mindset of a ref more than the laws themselves.
Congrats to the Boks and I think that there is a Bigger picture happening in the background !! No team has done the Treble and considering that 80% ( based on age ) of this team will still be able to play in the next World Cup .....😊 Mark my words, the treble is on the cards 😁👌
My theory is Jacques is going over to Ireland to subtly scout their systems and get some intel to bring back some knowledge. Then the only player I think didn't have a standout WC (maybe compared to past form and 2019 WC), is Steven Kitshoff. He held his own, without being his brilliant self. Think he needed a rest in the semi. I also feel like this is harsh, but basing it on coming into the tournament, he was regarded as the best in his position (or in the top 2), but others outshone him in this WC
Well done Springboks, fantastic. Yes, the match could have been won by NZ a kick here and there, the penalty no given against Savea. But congrats to all, and we stay humble.
The ladies of South Africa are experts when it comes to rugby. How awesome is that? Keep it up ladies. We know what a line out is, a maul, a scrum and try. Then kick for the sticks. 😅
For me it's Handre Polland, Faf de Clerk and Chelsen Kolbe. Disappointing player was Lebbok but I think he is still good and I believe he can make a great comeback 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
@@derekallan1341 What limitations? Do you refer to his kicking? Because his general play is masterful. Many kickers experience a rough patch, but that's easily remedied by his coach correcting his technique and extensive training. Seems to me you're not very familiar with rugby. In that case SHUT UP!
Kolbe and Arendse: MVPs of the final. The two smallest guys had the most impact. Arendse’s try saving tackle on Rieko is one example but when dropping back to take the kick you need lots of experience to know exactly the right time to rush up on the winger to cut him off if the opposition decide to run it, like Kolbe did in the 72nd minute, otherwise if you’re a split second off the winger is free to score which probably would’ve happened if Jordan got the ball because he only had one more man to beat.
Rush defence running inward still has a weakness out wide, only France & Ireland exploited our weakness wide on defence. Pieter-Steph du Toit tackled like a trojan in the final, the forwards were all immense. The backs did superb, Kolbe so solid on defence against Will Jordan. Esterhuizen & Moodie should be prospects for the next 4 years.
Cane's tackle was a liberty, just like Scott Barrett's clean out of Marx at Twickenham was a cheap shot. They were red cards all day long. TMOs are there for a reason. Rassie realised that long ago and won the WC. ABs didn't realise it and lost Cane and the WC, even after the lesson at Twickenham. They are whining about it now because the TMO helps the ref. stop all the cheap shots etc.
I absolutely love rugby, and follow it closely, but I am a netballer. We have something called an offensive contact, where the ball carrier is penalized for infringing. This is something Rugby should look into. Zels is right, just coz you carrying a ball doesn’t absolve you from infringing.
That IRA loss might have been the master plan. Rassie knew we had NZ nr after Twickenham. We had IRE nr, in the previous game in Dublin, and the Pool Game, we knew if we had to play them in Final we can beat them. FRA had to be beat in 1/4 final otherwise you had Home Nation in Final
And I had a feeling we could beat NZ in a final but it was less likely (as much as France also was a scary prospect) in a quarter. My reasoning was because we beat them at Twickenham and everyone was writing them off.. They played lethally in the QF to prove a point. Yes we played good too I just personally feel their need not to lose a quarters was stronger and our need to win the final was stronger.
Wow! Not only are the boks great players, but great actors as well. There they were, hammering away at Ireland's line in the last play of the game, and all the time they knew that the plan was for them to lose!! Give me a break.
Did any one notice the kick clock when Handre did his kicks. If I'm not mistaken every one of his kicks was taken before the countdown even reached the 20 sec mark.
People will laugh at this, but I believe it. The closest thing to SA in the north is Wales, a tough, pragmatic team. The one team in the north that can take the most from SA winning is Wales, who haven’t won it yet. But with some more power up front could realistically win in 2027.
My three top Boks: agree with Zelim on Bongi and Pollard. My third pick is Ox Nche over Erasmus. Defining individual performance v France and England. Pollard MVP.
there were three MVP . They were Bongie, Kriel and Kwagga. I did not put PSTD there because he was the best player on the field in the final but if you are looking at shutting down attacks, it was Kriel as much as, especially people from Cape Town will not admit it, He did. Bonbo was the most needed, and Kwagga was always stealing
I think if Mannie Libbook can sort out his goal kicking and start being 80-90% consistent then I think that he will be the greatest flyhalf in the history of South Africa, I think that the world cup was a cycle too soon perhaps.
Only the papers, podcasts and magazines make him the gerates fly hal in Bok history. There are many more better than him. He was wound up by the media that's all
Never understood the colour-blindness thing - are colourblind people unable to see direction? One team attacks left to right, the other attacks right to left, pretty simple.
Goalkeepers are given a red card when they go for the ball and their hand touches the striker, causing him to trip. Even when it's unintentional. But no football fan complains that "it's spoiling the game". Same with unintentional tripping of a player in the penalty area, with that player obviously diving.
Bongi unfortunately got injured in the early stages of both RWC finals. Can't be considered the MVP if he wasn't around to win the final. Great player, but not mvp.
Bongi was the most vital player. Am replaced Mapimpi instead of a recognised hooker. Line outs, scrums not a factor in the final, won by a whisker. Rassie reckless here. Nearly cost us.
I'm surprised about your viewpoint of the red card. It was a very poor tackle, moving upward and shoulder straight to the jaw. All games of recent time have been officiated like this. Its very dangerous play and he deserved the red.
Disagree Kane's was a RED all day long they set those standards in previous games often at Boks costs. We dont ask for asymmetric numbers but it was a red & Siya's was less than Kanes.
Well, big counter argument to your red card argument… PSDT. 28 tackles, most of the dominant without getting a card. It can be done! That’s proof that a tackle like Cane did never has to happen. If us, Ireland and France has already gotten the guys to not make tackles like that, give it another year and most if not all of the top teams would have worked it out of their players
The Boks will never win a WC again in the way they won in 2023. Look at how the game has evolved in the last four years alone, the Boks also had the perfect blend of experienced campaigners that won the 2019 WC mixed with exciting new talent, and lets be honest a good amount of luck, Ref/TMO decisions going our way. The 2027 WC will look very different, as many of the 2023 Boks will no longer be there, but we have good talent coming through that is an exciting prospect for the Boks
Thanks guys, the only red card should have been Frizell for a professional cynical takeout of Bongi in the 3rd minute. Watching that 'crocodile roll' I could see that the technique used was a learned deliberate one to damage Bongi's knee and remove our only specialist hooker. I don't understand why this is not being addressed, and it only makes sense that Came was carded because we all knew that Frizell got away lightly. Interested to see if anything further vibes from that but I ain't holding my breath.
Don't agree about the red card at all. It was definately a red. It would have been in any other game also... why not in the final? Cane was upright in the tackle and didn't even try to go low. Siya's yellow was also the right decision as he went horisontal into the contact. He also went for the ball en from their hit the head. I totaly agree with both decisions.
I disagree on the red card lads. The ABs have been the most ill disciplined team in rugby the past 4 years, the tackle technique from Cane was non-existent and the right conclusion made. Does it suck that it happened in the final? yes it sucks, but the blame lies on the ABs coaching and Sam Cane himself
50/50 decisions went for us because refs and their assistants are terrified about what will happen to them and their families after the game!!!!!!! The fanbase is rabid and it's something we need to really address once the euphoria has settled.
The red card was deserved. All players know what the rules are. Bend your knees, angle your hips, and go low. No head contact. Even Portugal players know how to tackle how can NZ player don't. Are they coached well enough? This feels like people affording the All Black the status of "exceptional" again. NO!!! Final or not... a red is a red all say and TWICE on Sunday. It is in the rules.
Totally agree with the sentiment on Bongi. Pulling 80 minutes back to back was incredible. Love Frans and Handré is a legend 👏🏻
Pollard is the man...ask any pro golfer how difficult it is, in terms of pressure, to drop even a short put from a meter. You really need a special mindset to achieve what he did. He's the Tiger of rugby.
Peter Steph , Damian willemse and Pollard all made outstanding contributions .
Damian willemse?? He played terrible last match
Kolbe the goat😊
Go back and watch Faf. Very underrated, but brilliant performance
Agree... We forget what Manie did for us. When it comes to running rugby. He is our guy.
@@SG-lj8uuwere we watching the same game? He never missed a high ball at all. Made all his tackles.
A rugby World Cup hat trick is
the holy Grail of every rugby fan
No one can argue with this! Cheers!
As a sportsman i really cant name any player that stood out, that entire team really stood out together each one complemented each other. ❤love you Bokke!! Thanks for giving us a smile. And you really sparked The Proteas and i hope the same will follow for Bafana
We all hail Rassie but for me the man of the match was Jacques his defence coaching and his relationship with the players
Relationship with players and Rassie
@@wesohall Rush defence running inward still has weakness out wide, only France & Ireland exploited our weakness wide on defence. Pieter-Steph du Toit tackled like a trojan, the forwards were all immense. The backs did superb, Kolbe immense on defence against Will Jordan.
Everybody has overlooked Kwagga and the major impact he had in Every game, when he came on.... The number of turnovers and absolute in your face grappling in defence was absolutely astounding....... He turned games in our favour especially at the end..... Like a caged lion let loose.
Kwagga was definitely the secret weapon, just an absolute honey badger of a player!
Kwagga delivered every minute he played, unbelievable impact
Yes, Kwagga did in 2023 what the great Francois Louw did for us in 2019.
The man is a massive player. What I respect the most is there's no ego about him. Just a dogged determination to get SA over the finish line. He's not just brawn, he's got brains too. Somehow, like Am, he seems to take the best decision each time
I think Faf was absolutely underatedly exceptional. What a terrier. That attempt tackle on Marler has to be the most comedic moment in the WC 😂
Faf is always at the top. Great lion great heart heart
He drained Dupont to the point of collapse. Faf plays an exceptional role...even covers wing from scrumhalf. He is like having an extra defensive forward. Fabulous player and key to our success.
Best Rugby show in the World. Carried me through the World Cup and doubled down in my faith in the Springboks ❤
Do not forget Kolbe and Arendse. Their contribution was huge!
Regarding the cards, there is a video of the 28 tackles that PSdT made. None of them were close to being a card.
Others can learn from this.
The film "Concussion" is worth the watch.
I thought the Frizell card was cynical and worth a red card (he was taking out our hooker - probably a targeted player).
As for the Kiwi cynically disrupting Faf getting to the ball when we were within 5m of their line at the start of the match - I thought that should have been the first card!
(If the Kiwi's didn't have a policy of "give away a penalty if it prevents a try", I would be more accommodating.)
Everybody has that policy... just saying
I also agree that Frizzel knew exactly what he was doing.
Blimey, Boks whining about refs even after winning the RWC! Cannot imagine the Bok reaction we had NZ's decisions in the final! Carnage!!!!!
I thought Bongi was taken out by Frizell using a Judo style move.
The TMO was the Boks best player.
give some credit to Jacques as a coach.
yes!!!! Without his defence the Boks would have gone out at the quarters.
Peter Steph, Frans, Jessie. Would love to see where Rassie is going with the Boks next. Re-inventing Rugby with 5 scrum halves!!!
Rassie deserves statue and stadium named after him...
And Jordie and Richie for missing their kicks
First team to win the Final after losing a pool game (2019), first team to win the Final after being BEHIND at half-time (2023), first team to win THREE Final-intensity games in a row after being behind at half-time (2023) - each of which were won in the last fifteen minutes ... leading one to recognize the genius of the Bok coaching and management team ... and the leadership of Siya, Eben, Duane, Kriel, Willemse ...
Correction. We were leading the final at half time. We never scored any points in the 2nd half
@@notenoughstones3873 Yip, you're right, apologies ...
1st to win Back 2 Back away from home facing the hardest sides in the cup in the toughest era
@@hanoitripper1809 First team to win a second Final after losing a pool game ... no other team has won the Final after losing a pool game.
@@williambotha5864 great achievement for a fantastic team! And also won after they targeted our only hooker, to try to weaken our set price - which worked, but we still won
I think any realistic person in NZ didn't consider ABs favourites. ABs did fantastic against Ireland and as expected against Argentina but the 2 years prior are still the 2 years prior and there were still weaknesses that could be exploited, and SA winning more than 1 game by 1 point against top teams isn't just luck.
All the NZ pundits did but then again, who is going to state otherwise for either team.
Truly a fantastic squad effort all-round. With Rassie's fall-out with WR and the refs I feared the worst but we received fair officiating. I must say our discipline under the coaching team for the past 6 years has been the best in my memory going back 40 years.
MVP Was Handre, without him we wouldn’t have even been in the final …
MVP was the TMO
Same can be said for Cheslin and KLA
@@SuperEdge67😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I’m colourblind and appreciate being able to see which team is mine. 🇿🇦
I think you're right, in the past 50/50 calls went against the Boks, but lately more 50/50 calls went mostly for the boks and that is why the opposition criticized the refs more.
I don't understand why people keep saying rugby isn't growing as a sport. Where are the stats that shows that? The stats that I saw was that this was the most watched world cup ever.
I love Kwagga. He is one of my favorite players. He wins many turnover balls for us.
Still on the red cars penalty. What about the dude that broke Mapimpi's face
Remember that Rassie and Jacques started consulting with Nigel Owens over the last year - that could be why we finally got on the right side of the refs.
Knowing Rassie, he was probably studying the mindset of a ref more than the laws themselves.
Mannie deserves a shoutout he got us to the semis and has made us so dangerous
manie was shown up and that's why he did not finish England and that's why he did not play in the final.
libbok did not. He was rubbish, Thats why he he was substituted in the England game. Stop making excuses for him he is rubbish as a TEST player
Guys, for me it was an extremely inspiring squad performance.
SPRINGBOKS WAS 4TH FAVOURITES TO WIN THE 🏆 WORLD CUP RUGBY 🏉 👏 👌 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🏉🏉🏉🏉
Now for the next World Cup 2027
Springboks going for their
Fifth World Cup &
the only team to win three
back to back World Cups.
Totally agreed,that he is a genius.
Either that or a very naughty boy.
@@wewhofly Mmmmm I like both.
Malcolm Marx was our biggest loss. He makes huge differences in every game he plays
Frans Steyn is going to be back for 2027! He could have been the first player to win 3 🏆
Congrats to the Boks and I think that there is a Bigger picture happening in the background !!
No team has done the Treble and considering that 80% ( based on age ) of this team will still be able to play in the next World Cup .....😊
Mark my words, the treble is on the cards 😁👌
My theory is Jacques is going over to Ireland to subtly scout their systems and get some intel to bring back some knowledge.
Then the only player I think didn't have a standout WC (maybe compared to past form and 2019 WC), is Steven Kitshoff. He held his own, without being his brilliant self. Think he needed a rest in the semi. I also feel like this is harsh, but basing it on coming into the tournament, he was regarded as the best in his position (or in the top 2), but others outshone him in this WC
Agree! A bit off but can’t criticise him to much. But agree with you
who are the others who bettered him dumb comment
love the show with money man he is wise fella
Well done Springboks, fantastic.
Yes, the match could have been won by NZ a kick here and there, the penalty no given against Savea.
But congrats to all, and we stay humble.
But that applies the other way too.
and the try tat was a forward pass, lets not forget that
MVP - Lucky Am for Winning RWC without playing at all but the sheer anticipation of bringing him on caused confusion amogst the oppositions planning!
The ladies of South Africa are experts when it comes to rugby. How awesome is that? Keep it up ladies. We know what a line out is, a maul, a scrum and try. Then kick for the sticks. 😅
For me it's Handre Polland, Faf de Clerk and Chelsen Kolbe. Disappointing player was Lebbok but I think he is still good and I believe he can make a great comeback 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
I would like to see exciting running rugby and Mani Libbok is the key to that .....
How was libbok disappointing?
Libbok disappointing? Do you know anything about rugby? Or do you just become an expert every 4 years during the RWC. Jelly Brain!
his limitations have been shown
@@derekallan1341 What limitations? Do you refer to his kicking? Because his general play is masterful. Many kickers experience a rough patch, but that's easily remedied by his coach correcting his technique and extensive training. Seems to me you're not very familiar with rugby. In that case SHUT UP!
Zel basically outlined the entire Springboks tactic when he mentioned Frans Malherbe. Milking penalties.
Kolbe and Arendse: MVPs of the final. The two smallest guys had the most impact. Arendse’s try saving tackle on Rieko is one example but when dropping back to take the kick you need lots of experience to know exactly the right time to rush up on the winger to cut him off if the opposition decide to run it, like Kolbe did in the 72nd minute, otherwise if you’re a split second off the winger is free to score which probably would’ve happened if Jordan got the ball because he only had one more man to beat.
Rush defence running inward still has a weakness out wide, only France & Ireland exploited our weakness wide on defence. Pieter-Steph du Toit tackled like a trojan in the final, the forwards were all immense. The backs did superb, Kolbe so solid on defence against Will Jordan. Esterhuizen & Moodie should be prospects for the next 4 years.
They were all exceptional.
Cane's tackle was a liberty, just like Scott Barrett's clean out of Marx at Twickenham was a cheap shot. They were red cards all day long. TMOs are there for a reason. Rassie realised that long ago and won the WC. ABs didn't realise it and lost Cane and the WC, even after the lesson at Twickenham.
They are whining about it now because the TMO helps the ref. stop all the cheap shots etc.
I absolutely love rugby, and follow it closely, but I am a netballer. We have something called an offensive contact, where the ball carrier is penalized for infringing. This is something Rugby should look into. Zels is right, just coz you carrying a ball doesn’t absolve you from infringing.
My man said Eeebin😂😂
That IRA loss might have been the master plan. Rassie knew we had NZ nr after Twickenham. We had IRE nr, in the previous game in Dublin, and the Pool Game, we knew if we had to play them in Final we can beat them. FRA had to be beat in 1/4 final otherwise you had Home Nation in Final
And I had a feeling we could beat NZ in a final but it was less likely (as much as France also was a scary prospect) in a quarter. My reasoning was because we beat them at Twickenham and everyone was writing them off.. They played lethally in the QF to prove a point. Yes we played good too I just personally feel their need not to lose a quarters was stronger and our need to win the final was stronger.
This was exactly what was planned a year before the RWC already
Yes,and Rassie also planned to beat all these teams by 1 point too.Wow!
Wow! Not only are the boks great players, but great actors as well. There they were, hammering away at Ireland's line in the last play of the game, and all the time they knew that the plan was for them to lose!! Give me a break.
Did any one notice the kick clock when Handre did his kicks. If I'm not mistaken every one of his kicks was taken before the countdown even reached the 20 sec mark.
Great spirit to the actual reality : most enjoyable, thank you kindly 👊🔥❗️
Since taking over Rassie came up with bench strategy to basically blunt ABs running game. Those who innovate hey 🤣🤣🤣
People will laugh at this, but I believe it. The closest thing to SA in the north is Wales, a tough, pragmatic team. The one team in the north that can take the most from SA winning is Wales, who haven’t won it yet. But with some more power up front could realistically win in 2027.
it some point it was but not in the last year. They lost a lot of experience remember. british & Irish it arguably the losest
Wales always turns up when playing our Boks. Exciting times ahead 💚💛🇿🇦
So, going on that thought; France, I assume, would be your ABs in NH? Please don't tell me Ireland are Australia!
If we put money on wales now we could be millionaires
@@wewhofly Yes, I’d go along with your France comment. They are always capable of winning.
Libbok against France 🔥
We have absolutely outstanding, world-class players,a genius defensive coach in Nienaber,yet all the plaudits go to Rassie,who did what exactly?
Everything. He is the brain and the glue in their partnership. Rassie is the boss, everybody knows that.
@@Alias-gy3tz So you don't know huh?If Rassie wasn't there,what would the team have lacked?
@@jdQuinnn Direction
I agree with you. Rassie without Jacques and Jacques without Rassie??????? Who knows???? THEY DO!!!!!
MVP handre pollard
Game maker without a shadow of a doubt, Pollard did what Mo'unga and Barrett could not do to clinch the victory.
we lost our most valueable player & still won - Malcolm Marx was the player I least wanted to lose, & it happened.
My three top Boks: agree with Zelim on Bongi and Pollard. My third pick is Ox Nche over Erasmus. Defining individual performance v France and England. Pollard MVP.
Kwagga !
The best games are won by 1 point
Can we also now wear our green for the Proteas? Please?🙏🏾🇿🇦
The Real MVPs of The Springboks are: Bongi Mbonambi, Handré Pollard, PSDT & Eben Etzeberth✅
Nah the real MVP was the TMO
Bongi. 💪
Money man lnows everything about hangovers
Player pool depth is the key to future wins. Which country has the highest player pool growth?
there were three MVP . They were Bongie, Kriel and Kwagga. I did not put PSTD there because he was the best player on the field in the final but if you are looking at shutting down attacks, it was Kriel as much as, especially people from Cape Town will not admit it, He did. Bonbo was the most needed, and Kwagga was always stealing
England knew the value of Bongi that is why they tried to remove him
Yes very sad to injure him in that way. Surely TMO should have reported it as they saw it. Bad decision I feel
I think if Mannie Libbook can sort out his goal kicking and start being 80-90% consistent then I think that he will be the greatest flyhalf in the history of South Africa, I think that the world cup was a cycle too soon perhaps.
Only the papers, podcasts and magazines make him the gerates fly hal in Bok history. There are many more better than him. He was wound up by the media that's all
I agree totally
The real MVP is Kwagga!
Never understood the colour-blindness thing - are colourblind people unable to see direction?
One team attacks left to right, the other attacks right to left, pretty simple.
Good point...
Goalkeepers are given a red card when they go for the ball and their hand touches the striker, causing him to trip. Even when it's unintentional. But no football fan complains that "it's spoiling the game". Same with unintentional tripping of a player in the penalty area, with that player obviously diving.
Ox, Peter Steph and Quagga
The 2 men of the match for South Africa were Barnes and the TMO.
Moneyman, we want to see your Green & Gold Maserati....remember?😁
Bongi unfortunately got injured in the early stages of both RWC finals. Can't be considered the MVP if he wasn't around to win the final.
Great player, but not mvp.
Bongi was the most vital player. Am replaced Mapimpi instead of a recognised hooker. Line outs, scrums not a factor in the final, won by a whisker. Rassie reckless here. Nearly cost us.
Who would you have brought in? Dweba not ready
I'm surprised about your viewpoint of the red card. It was a very poor tackle, moving upward and shoulder straight to the jaw. All games of recent time have been officiated like this. Its very dangerous play and he deserved the red.
I believe that our strength was and is ,Rassie and Sia Kolesi. Obviously the coach jelled the other two.
Disagree Kane's was a RED all day long they set those standards in previous games often at Boks costs. We dont ask for asymmetric numbers but it was a red & Siya's was less than Kanes.
Well, big counter argument to your red card argument… PSDT. 28 tackles, most of the dominant without getting a card. It can be done! That’s proof that a tackle like Cane did never has to happen. If us, Ireland and France has already gotten the guys to not make tackles like that, give it another year and most if not all of the top teams would have worked it out of their players
Been fun, thanks
The Boks will never win a WC again in the way they won in 2023. Look at how the game has evolved in the last four years alone, the Boks also had the perfect blend of experienced campaigners that won the 2019 WC mixed with exciting new talent, and lets be honest a good amount of luck, Ref/TMO decisions going our way. The 2027 WC will look very different, as many of the 2023 Boks will no longer be there, but we have good talent coming through that is an exciting prospect for the Boks
Biggest impact; 1Kwagga 2Pollard 3Franco/Ox
I have yet to see a Springbok Maserati!?
I wish we won a TRC & didn’t lose to the Ozzies during the 2020 - 2023 cycle
Thanks guys, the only red card should have been Frizell for a professional cynical takeout of Bongi in the 3rd minute. Watching that 'crocodile roll' I could see that the technique used was a learned deliberate one to damage Bongi's knee and remove our only specialist hooker. I don't understand why this is not being addressed, and it only makes sense that Came was carded because we all knew that Frizell got away lightly. Interested to see if anything further vibes from that but I ain't holding my breath.
Don't agree about the red card at all. It was definately a red. It would have been in any other game also... why not in the final? Cane was upright in the tackle and didn't even try to go low.
Siya's yellow was also the right decision as he went horisontal into the contact. He also went for the ball en from their hit the head. I totaly agree with both decisions.
My top 3: Eben, Ox, Handre but how do we slot Bongi in, who goes? Bongi has to be there.
I emigrated because of BEE. I hate racial discrimination in any form. I rate MMarx as the best hooker, ever.
Most Valuable Player: Bongi Mbonambi
the OLD boys club Hansen Henry are all complaining to world rugby they all winging about TMO bunch of muppets
Nothing new about that. Even today the old boys club in NZ still complain about losing two test series against the Boks in the 1970s.
You guys complained about the ref after losing the first test against the lions but I guess that's different aye?
I disagree on the red card lads. The ABs have been the most ill disciplined team in rugby the past 4 years, the tackle technique from Cane was non-existent and the right conclusion made. Does it suck that it happened in the final? yes it sucks, but the blame lies on the ABs coaching and Sam Cane himself
Did you wrap youe car in the springbok coulars @moneyman
50/50 decisions went for us because refs and their assistants are terrified about what will happen to them and their families after the game!!!!!!! The fanbase is rabid and it's something we need to really address once the euphoria has settled.
We got the next one to 🎉
He knows how to grab you, this guy. Last comment: "I gotta theory....." Have to come back for the denouement.
Zels what about PSDT? Go watch again the knock out games.
Cane was definately red, he’s a habitual offender and never learned his lesson
His stats prove that blatantly incorrect. Good effort though
There are some intellectual property shared by the two coaches that I cant see just evaporating
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The red card was deserved. All players know what the rules are. Bend your knees, angle your hips, and go low. No head contact. Even Portugal players know how to tackle how can NZ player don't. Are they coached well enough?
This feels like people affording the All Black the status of "exceptional" again. NO!!!
Final or not... a red is a red all say and TWICE on Sunday.
It is in the rules.
If you’re a “genius” you would win your three Finals games by more than a single point!
Then maybe he is not a genius, still one point smarter than the rest ;)
MVP: easy one Siya Kolisi!
MVP = Elizabedi
Bru when is the Maserati getting its new look