The Insanity behind VTubing's Biggest Lolcow - MikeNeko
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I think MikeNeko still wants to find a connection as she had in Hololive. Gen 3 was and still is one of the closest groups in Vtubing and she probably misses that, which may explain her trying to join so many different agencies and groups, including why she shoehorned her way into a rust event. I think she both needs yet fears personal intimacy with others. It's way more complicated than this of course.
She expressed that she still loves her former gen and misses them, and even took time to send respect to A-chan when she left, so you probably aren't far off. She seems the type to do a lot better when she has a stable friend group to help ground her.
Those are my thoughts exactly. At first felt apathy towards Mikeneko when I originally heard the story between her and Mafu. But now, I actually do feel pity for her.
the sad thing is that her actions ended up with both Noel and Flare being more......cold towards her when the news about her termination came by, Marine and Pekora were in tears but the other 2 were far more calm
Yup. I feel it like personal life leak + toxic online community.
I wouldn't said she was ever close to gen3 but having someone like marine that always try to reach out maybe giving her that impression
Nazuna was such a sick design NGL. She died too quick. .
I loved both Nazuna's and OG Mikeneko's design, sadge
She still streams on rare occasion. But it's only a matter of time before Twitch's new guidelines bans her for the design of her model.
@@Ash_Yu True she does have “deadly shoulders” according to Twitch. I’m following and I didn’t know she streamed at all.
@@sauerkrautlanguage Truth! The heterochromia representation has gone down significantly.
Like her cat
She was a Mafu stan, he was a Rushia simp
Could it be any more obvious?
He wanted her, she wanted him. Secretly she's banging someone else.
Bro is not gonna be singing 'I want to be a girl' from now on
Honestly feels surreal for me as someone who grew up listening to Mafumafu's and Soraru's covers and as someone who got into the Vtuber rabbit hole cause of Rushia. The entire Rushia Mafumafu drama made me question if I'm in a simulation or somethin' cause it felt like an anime plot HAHAHAHAH
Hearing a vtuber being called a lol cow is crazy
The New York Knicks of VTubing.
@@misot90 the New York Mets and Jets would like to have a word with you
Mikeneko is not the Vtubing's Biggest Lolcow, Nimu Spacecat is 100x worst than Mikeneko. I guess you've never heard of that vtuber.
Lolcow is a terrible joke. Fuwamoco, and the people behind them, get ridiculed as lolcows too.
@@georgepatton93 It was a UrinatingTree reference lmao. His lolcow and Legacy of Failures series are the best.
The Needy streamer ost is just the cherry on top
Literally, since Rushia/Mike is like Ame. A needy girl
I played the game a few months ago, I think needy streamer is straight up just inspired by mike
I find it funny that this came out after the lawsuit was over
Oh god.
I misses the time when I just laughed at the silly memes like "no pettah boing boing"
or "Board Meeting"
Being one of those people who got into the Vtuber rabbit hole cause of Rushia was an entirely different form of experience bruh HAHAHA. I laughed a lot at the pettan jokes. Felt unfair when she got terminated just cause of the Mafumafu drama. Was cheering her on when she returned as Nazuna. Now, I'm just out here pitying her while laughing at how much people memes on her HAHAHAHA
Tank rushia days
At this point I won't be surprised if real life renact of oshi no ko might happen to her. The fan dead 25:53 out burst feels like a villain arc
Or EVA-01
Nick DeOrio says that the "Lolcow Gene" is held by anybody who simply can NOT resist the urge to respond to every criticism they get, as if they can somehow "win" a drama or controversy if they just post...one...more...time...
Mikeneko has this in spades.
Shoutouts to Nick. Between his exposure of MamaMax and his coverage of Boogie with the EFAP crew, I don't understand how he's still sane.
the termination from hololive broke her
I think it'd happen without the termination it just accelerated it
The event that caused her carrier to fall apart was her husband messaging her while on stream, which could very well also be him sabotaging her deliberately.
It was more a symptom rather than the disease itself.
@@bashamd96 It would've been 20x worse if she didn't break NDA so fast and her madness festered for 4-6 years. A menhera episode of that magnitude in current era Holo would've actually damaged the agency.
@@crushingon
You are reaching too far man most vtubers don't show notification massages on streamer screen because of fear of doxing.
She was crazy for a good decade before Hololive honestly, Cover were taking a bit of a gamble with her. She was already very well known for constant relationship drama (complete with police involvement and legal threats), twitter meltdowns, involvement with shady people and having her own personal army of haters.
Granted this also describes a lot of Cover's most popular talents, so honestly, I can't blame them. Some folk CAN be fixed.
...but not every gamble can be a winner.
I find it either ironic, hilarious, or some strange mix of the two that everything involving Micheal this year COULD have been the drama of the year had it not happened about 2 weeks before Selen's termination. Both were terminated with minimal warning but a hefty amount of foreshadowing, but where one was so beloved that it retroactively made other dramas similar to it more sympathetic, the other was so outrageous and escalated so far on all sides that it may have ruined her reputation outright.
While I grow tired of saying it, i think the fact she needs to log off still rings true. To put my own rrat forward, I wonder if she, in hindsight, realized how big a fuck up it was doing whatever it was that got her terminated from Hololive, and is now desperate to regain the position she once did. The lawsuit being dropped is probably the best outcome possible, though i think pretty much any damage already done has been the extent of it.
Mikeneko is not the Vtubing's Biggest Lolcow, Nimu Spacecat is 100x worst than Mikeneko. I guess you've never heard of that vtuber.
Unfortunately she makes her income from being a vtuber and online. And momentum is big in this industry. She can't afford to step away
@@Ash_Yu Yeah.. Mentally she would need to go offline, but she has worked being a personality/idol for so many years already, that is probably the only thing that she has going for her financially unless she makes a massive change to her life.
I think being fired from hololive broke her at a fundamental level.
Not only was she fired from an amazingly well paying job with copious amounts of fame and wealth, whatever she did resulted in Fubuki (known as the heart of hololive) even shunned her and was cold and dismissive about it.
Rushia/Michael/neko lost her spot, core social support group, friends, reputation and a lot of money. She became an outcast overnight. Her already fragile mental and menhera tendencies just exploded.
Ultimately I just feel bad for her. Maybe she couldve had more guidance or maybe she had all the guidance and help in the world but still chose to do what ahe did. Either way, her actions after loosing hololive just drove her deeper and deeper into despair
WACTOR: "Tell us your best quality."
Mikeneko: "I'm used to attempting to unalive myself."
WACTOR: "PERFECT!"
Sad that her actions got her in such bad drama that Rushia seems to no longer be consided to be added to Holocure. 😢
I think there's a higher chance of that changing now that the lawsuit is all settled. I'm pretty sure people are just going to forget about it all after some time. I mean, people forgot about the allegations on Mike Tyson (yes the real one, not the user EMTA) after a while, now no one cares to think or know about it. Besides, we just remember Rushia as Rushia, and we don't have to think of her as anyone else. Think of her as just another character for the game.
People are likely going to think of this as copium. But I'll just say right now, I'm fine with whatever Kayuu chooses for his game. Sure it would be sad to exclude a Hololive member from the game, especially if its a significant one. But first off, I've gotten to the point of being impartial towards this whole case between Mikeneko and Mafumafu, and it's best to just forget about that ancient history and let it disappear. Secondly, I'm only making this comment as assurance if anyone wants it. So take or leave it. Peace.
Edit: Yes, I saw the trailer for the Holocure 0.7 update. It was mostly to be expected, but I had a small bit of optimism that there would be some homage paid to the persona Uruha Rushia. Unfortunately it's not that simple. Hololive and Cover have removed all works from terminated talents -- including that of Yozora Mel -- as well as avoiding any reference of them and their personas. Kayuu was likely to follow suit by excluding Rushia from the game. Though part of me is worried that also means Mel is going to be removed from Holocure in the next update, that is if he is going to take it that far. We'll just have to see. Hopefully I'm wrong... again...
Edit 2: Mel is still in the game. Thank you Kayuu! 😅
@@GawainWWhether or not Kay's stance changes is up to debate. He definitely had considered it more During the planning of the upcoming Update.
@@GawainWI disagree.
@@nathanael9159
Good for you
What is even his stance in this
You either die a hero (Rushia) or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain (Mikeneko)
Mikeneko is not the Vtubing's Biggest Lolcow, Nimu Spacecat is 100x worst than Mikeneko. I guess you've never heard of that vtuber.
@@TheVtuberRevolutionary I tried looking her up on your tube, but couldn't find much. Is she Spanish?
@@TheVtuberRevolutionaryIf we haven't heard of her, how is she the biggest Lolcow?
@@TheVtuberRevolutionary how about you keep quiet instead, you spam this everywhere in the comments. The person must be your imagination.
@@MICHAELTUMANGDAYthat person is not in his imagination tho.
Though I don't like this green guy spamming this nimu shi like it's important, I want to note that Nimu is a Latino lol cow vtuber kinda known in Latin America.
TLDR: green vtuber guy, stop spamming nimu comments, we do not care about her lmao
Good thing she didn't fought Mafumafu in the court endlessly. I'm Glad the two realized there's no point in continuing it. They'll only end up in double bankruptcy.
I genuinely feel sorry for her, because people have found out that she's weak to insults and slander and take every conceivable opportunity to bully her, knowing full well that she will react with impotent rage or do something insane, which will open the door to even more bullying and slander until she is forced to react again and the cycle continues. This is absolutely no way to live. She should step back a bit and work on what made her get hired by Hololive in the first place, which was her singing. She was originally an utaite, after all. It's a talent of hers that she has been neglecting over the years for sure.
She should stop vtubing a years or more to find peace herself but sadly maybe they're already doxxed her. There's also alot of threaten letters/message send to theirs(idols/vtubers) in Japan.
She should go to therapy or jail and not connect to the internet for a while
@@cantinadudesDark the days have become in the world of internet... It's not a good place for those with a weak tolerance to insults and bully... Heck... I don't think anyone in their right mind is able to stomach bullying no matter the circumstances...
@@morphayangze2737 yes but at what point is it bullying, and at what point is it just an actio/reactio thing?
@@ashura7911given it's japan, there's a very non-zero chance of this. jp stalkers are legit next level and will literally just rainbolt you
nice touch with the needy streamer overload ost, nousagi, really fitted michael's arcs :D
oo man this brings a mixed amount of fellings, i hope she could turn a better person for herself
I do appreciate the (albeit brief) empathetic look at her at 38:30. And I find it interesting that, even after 2 years, she thought to thank A-chan for all the hard work she did. That shows respect imo. In fact, I don't recall Mikeneko ever throwing much mud at Hololive or Vshojo, even though there were points in her career when people would've sided with her and it would've given her a lot of attention. In fact her departure from VShojo was probably the least drama-filled of the 4 departures happening at that time. For all the drama in her personal life, she's tried to maintain a level of professionalism with her work places that I kinda have to respect.
I think she did have some criticism of Hololive around the time she left, but having not continued with that criticism gives me the impression that she doesn't hold much animosity towards them, relatively speaking.
@yurisei6732 From what I could find there was a statement put out by her a few months later where she wanted to clarify some ambiguity in Cover's statement that made it sound like she could've leaked more info than her own personal info, which wasn't the case, and that she was dissappinted they couldnt issue a joint correction. But even in that same statement, she complimented the company for being cordial and said they were on good terms.
She also emphasized that she hasn't lost her bonds with her former genmates and that she still enjoys their streams. Also that she deeply regrets the trouble she's caused them.
Reading through it, a good part seems aimed at stopping speculation from antis. Both the ones accusing her of having a grudge, and the ones attacking Cover and her former coworkers over her termination.
I haven't found any other instances of criticism beyond this. So it does seem like she and Cover have maintained about as good/professional of a relationship as can be expected after a firing.
@@Ash_Yuyou can be professional while still having a terrible personality behind the scenes. Mikeneko seems to be that way until something triggers her, then not even years of professionalism and goodwill can stop her rampage. Being fired is basically the aftermath of that.
I'm surprised that Cover actually managed to handle her for close to half a decade though, since she does not last long at any of her ventures post-Rushia. They must have hired pretty excellent managers for their talents.
I think now that all this water is under the bridge, I think it would be great for her to start reaching out to her old friends. Even if they can’t stream together anymore, they still can be friends; even if they don’t love her anymore, she’ll always love them. Maybe it just took a really long time to realize that.
The reasons you cited are why I don’t think Mikeneko is a lolcow despite all her mistakes. She can be very professional whenever she really puts the effort into it, and she’s been seeking a lot of psychiatric help over the past couple of years.
@@mickeywng8013Mikeneko x therapy ship must sail.
I fear the timeline in which it doesn't
She gives the feeling of being the kind of person, I'm sure we all know one, that's the emotional equivalent of unstable explosives. They can't not overreact to save their life.
thats because she is mentally ill but refuses to go to therapy.
in germany she would be forced under parental care by court order and be forced into therapy on the account of her being unable to make sound judgements on her own.
I just have to say very appropriate choice in music.
The biggest casualty in all this is Soju. Losing an oshi is fine. Everybody goes through that. But then, having that oshi return as a genuinely insane person who burns every bridge she can't cross and suffering the consequences is a very specific type of pain.
I'm just happy that Soju moved on from rushia/mikeneko.
Soju found a new green oshi, everything is healed
@@wfac1997 She went from green woman to another green woman lol
@@MICHAELTUMANGDAY and she's also pettan so it's like nothing changed
The videos Soju made during that time was just depressing.
Im glad they ended up moving on.
Damn bro, what a shitstorm, I cant imagine just how my man Soju the god of clippers must be feeling right now, fight on brother
They’ve moved on mostly I think.
It's a good thing Soju moved on to biboo and cecilia but I bet it still hurts them since soju's been supporting her for years high and lows even after hololive
She was on the verge of deleting her channel but Biboo saved it and CC rejuvenated her desire to create, as far as I can tell. Now the edits are really really good with a lot of extra work put in
Soju is a girl.
Also fun fact: A lot of people actually worried about her, some even start to simp and tell her she can be a Vtuber herseld.
Yeah she still is even after the lawsuit. The judge finds it pointless as it'll continue without ending for both sides, so both sides settled even though they want to continue with the accusations against each other.
Mikeneko is not the Vtubing's Biggest Lolcow, Nimu Spacecat is 100x worst than Mikeneko. I guess you've never heard of that vtuber.
@@TheVtuberRevolutionaryMind giving us a tl;dr for those of us not in the know?
@@Rhomcom he spams that to every comment don't listen to him and report his post
It's hilarious that family courts are all the same all over the world. They knew how petty people can be and this kind of advice will be thrown often because it wasting the court time and money.
@@kos2919 and also I can imagine how each of such cases gives an irreversible brain damage to everyone in a court room
I 100% agree with the opening statement. As fans, we want to think that our idols are morally rightous, or at the very least, have the same baseline morals that we have. But oftentimes, that is never the case, and the bigger the difference in moral opinion you have from your idol, the less likely for you to stay as a fan.
That is why my favorite quote of all times was from FF7 Machinabridge by TFS, said by Cid.
“Never meet your heroes boy, because heroes are people, and people are shit.”
"Never meet your heroes, because you'll always be disappointed."
Is a James McBride quote, that TFS was referencing.
They do that *a lot* like most other fan projects.
who the fuck cares about this stupid "idol" japan culture, this girls just streamers stop being a fucking idiots cmon bruh
Honestly part of the reason I'm so comfy with Kiara as an oshi is because she's so uncomfortably honest about all her flaws, I feel confident I have seen the depth of her shittiness and I can live with her at her worst.
Some of the more... smooth and perfect folk constantly make me nervous that they'll one day turn out to be diddling kids or something. I've seen too many of my heroes fall.
My oshis are Pippa and Kirsche and boy oh boy they are vile 😆 like my God I have no idea how this girl function in society, is not like they are bad people but they are not morally righteous either v:
Especially Pippa, she likes Joker 2, ew.
I love that qoute
She is mad, but I do not dislike her. I just feel sad for her.
Same
Same,
same
I cannot find sympathy for what she has done to mafumafu. She destroyed him in so many ways.
i can fix her
Sakana knows his talents are crazy. He doesn't need pr.
You can't convince me that phase isn't a group therapy organisation larping as a vtuber company
well, it's famous for being sad girl company
Nah, it's a coffee company who hire sad girls because they're too busy being sad and forget to ask for a raise.
I mean yeah at this point it is on brand, look at Phase newest recruit Clara, she is just crazy man
@@kevinhanandi my favourite clip of her's is when she "pitched" diapers to Sakana and he immediately said no
Gura and Mumei from Hololive are proof people can sound the same. One time, Gura confused Mumei's voice for feedback of herself. And those two are confirmed to be different people.
Mumei sounds like Gura but Gura doesn't sound like Mumei though.
@@SoulBro12 they speak very differently, but the voice itself is almost identical. When they try to mimic, e.g. use the same cadence, attack, mannerisms, lexicon, catch phrases, etc. - it is really impossible to tell the difference, because there is none.
1:03 hell yeah, Dizzy/Sakana love!
Dizzy may play a LOLcow, but we're not the ones married to one of the most successful and oddly charismatic CEOs in vtubing.
Wait that's actually true? I knew Dizzi and Sakana are related, but married? Fishman swagging for real.
@@cornykrizere2831I dunno if its canon or headcanon tho just ship carefully
@@cornykrizere2831it’s a joke actually
@@cornykrizere2831no it's a long running joke, as true as tenma being canadian (she's japanese)
@@cornykrizere2831 Its a joke, Sakana is married to some random woman that isn't a candidate for the Phase asylum
All kneel to the Menhera queen, but please, get help girl.
Let's just hope that she'll sooner or later get the medical treatment and support she needs so that she won't hurt neither anybody around her nor herself.
WHO did she hurt? I only See people hurting her.
@FantasiephilosophRaku Well, Mafumafu of course. Even if not physically, then she definitely caused hell of a stress for him.
@@Uladzya And He did Not? He caused the Most Stress to a Person ever Seen. Imagine boasting around having evidence and witnesses only to get your Case thrown Out by the judge for Not being worth pursuing and that the punishment would be minimal, considering the amount of crimes He accused her Off, IT proved He Lied and overexagerated AS the punishment Not fits the crime.
@FantasiephilosophRaku Yeah, that's right, she also suffered pretty much from him, but that's not what I was talking about in the beginning.
In my first comment, I meant that most of the problems that are connected with Rushia are caused by her mental instability, which resulted in the lack of critical thinking and unhealthy overreaction, that got even worse after her traumatic experienced. This has led not only to suicide attempt and some other sad events, but also into..."serious accusations" towards not only Mfmf, but also, f. e. Delutaya.
@@FantasiephilosophRaku
What about that whole thing with Delutaya?
11:36 Poor Delutaya ... triangle love!
I think she's relatively ok tho. Even collabed with Rica a couple of days ago.
That was a huge red flag to me. I was willing to admit the facts of the drama surrounding Rushia/Mikeneko were nebulous, but to then accuse friends and colleagues of bullying simply because she was in “survival mode” showed a lot of selfishness.
Lolcow, the exact opposite of the pettan jokes.
This was a trainwreck of a villain arc. She's a broken woman.
i think she was already broken before joining hololive at this point im not surprised if she jump to a train she is a lost cause
It feels like there is a huge double standard when you evaluate this situation as one would like that of a lolcow. It seems like people think this is just a tragic unfolding of events that can be attributed to an unfortunate personality flaw. Throwing friends and colleagues under the bus? Frivolous lawsuits? Domestic abuse? These things are genuinely horrible, but they come from a cute anime girl which makes them just “kinda bad but also not entirely her fault”. Which other lolcow gets treated so gently?
Harassment is obviously wrong, but it needs to be made clear that threatening legal action against anyone that disagrees with you and being an abusive partner are not just things that she “needs to work on”. There can be some sympathy, but not to the point where all her actions are passively ascribed to being susceptible to trolls.
I literally, unforced, unironically, Laugh. Out. Loud. at the part that Mikael responded to the accusation of mocking Aqua by saying she’ll sue.😂
No need for that, that Guy buckled and apologized for spreading this rumour
@@FantasiephilosophRaku good to know that; but I laughed just because of how ironic or something I don’t really know I find in the whole situation.
>rushia leaves holo and signs up to vshojo and a va company
Hey that's pretty good, you have a future here if you just...
>TOTAL CORPO DEATH
Oh...oh dear
I watched because I was afraid it would be another slander piece to incite harassment against Mike-chan but thank you for being more sympathetic. Mike-chan is my oshi so I know she's very naive and quick to act but definitely kind-hearted. Plenty of people are constantly harassing her to make her out worse then she is but I seriously hope more people check her out for themselves to see why she has so many fans and support.
She's still my favorite vtuber so I want to see her succeed!
This story is a great example of the saying, "If your misery wasn't self-inflicted, I'd feel bad for you."
[As a disclaimer, this statement is hyperbole, and this story is complicated to navigate through interwoven causes, reactions, and effects. Honestly it all seems like an unhealthy cry for help that's also negatively affecting other people to me]
I don't think this is all self-inflicted. The internet is more cruel than anyone deserves. She has made mistakes, allegedly some quite serious ones, but if internet commenters and drama channels were more humane, she would have made fewer mistakes and their consequences would have been much less. Her suffering is not proportional to her sin.
@@yurisei6732 At a certain point she just does it to herself, sure antis have no life, but she has to get ahead of her mental disabilities and eventual controversies and just get off the internet for at least a bit, if not forever.
@@DankWand Right, I just don't believe that justifies what people do to her unnecessarily. She should get off the internet, and the internet should stop trying to make her miserable. These are both true statements.
@@yurisei6732 Hence the disclaimer. Most (but not all) of what you can call "self-inflicted" in this context comes from her own reactions to the bad behavior of other people. She didn't start anything, as far as we're aware, and yet she doesn't seem to take any initiative to try to stop anything either and at times actively seeks to make the situation worse. It's almost like a warped sense of self-fulfilment on her end, as If she's searching for a way to make sure that her suffering is always sympathetic and a justification for other people to come to her aid. This really does seem like a cry for help from someone who craves genuine love in a way that they've never received and can only understand social interactions through the lens of victimhood vs aggressor. It's an absolutely horrible way to live, and yet we from an outside perspective have absolutely no idea how to help her, since her own perspective and behavior is keeping her here.
Truly, the Homelander of vtubers
Regarding why Kson hired her to Vshojo, I felt that it's just Kson trying to be a saviour for her. She just doesn't realize how handful Mikey can be. She even had to stop streaming for a whole week because dealing with Mike drain her mentally. This is why the moment Henya joined, they "forget" about Nazuna because it's better dealing with a cheerful child like Henya than emotional vampire like Mike
I remember seeing kson tweeting that she "didn't hire her to VShojo" and it was apparently just a coincidence? I guess he forgot that part or something in the video.
@@Zenocide lol It's the company that hire her, Kson just told Rushia to come to Vshojo.
I really love her voice. tho I kinda only follow her for few weeks and forget her after the gen 5 debut, but damn she's just crazy.
Two minutes into the video and seeing all of the clips DepNog is showing makes me appreciate just how much deep lore he probably knows
I am so saddened by Rushya's story. One of the first videos with Vitubers that I saw was with her. If it weren't for that one message... she would still be working at Hololive and we most likely wouldn't know anything about what's going on behind the scenes.
Damn... i just feel sad about her now.
I just really hope all this story doesn't end up in a tragic way at this point.
Asian society really is a hellstorm huh...
You may be a former fan but you keep looking back and deep inside, you still want her.
jesus christ the sudden insertion of "fear and hunger" music actually made me panic for a second
I still see Mahabre in my dreams...
An absolute PTSD
My man decided to be maximum on the nose with picking the Needy Streamer Overload game OST.
I think of her these days as the vtuber equivalent of DSP. That man will outlast all of my favorite content creators, and I think Mikeneko will too. It will be a sad day when she's still around and kicking when my oshi decides to graduate one day. But Mikeneko will still be streaming in whatever form. But unlike DSP, Mikeneko is at least attractive. Not gonna lie, I would be tempted to take up Mikeneko's offer to be her bf despite everything.
Oh yeah...the "I can fix her" mentality. I think if she really found a person who would love and mentally support her and maybe she would move away from Vtubing as her profession and it would become more of a hobby... I think she would become happier as a person.
I miss Nazuna, I really thought she was happy there... But after all the drama it was actually a blessing she left.
I can't believe you made an entire video about her history and forgot to mention her other persona, Miguel Gato
She got so scared that her biggest simps would stop simping for her, that she went and broke NDA and put her entire agency at risk, lol.
I don't entirely blame her, the things she did to keep those simps simping would make OnlyFan models feel shame. Okag, nothing would make OnlyFan models feel shame.
"Nothing would make OF Models feel shame"
Nah there's one thing
Time
How sad that normal fans have been turned into 'simps' after this whole scandal, even when they had no part in it.
@@_AdityA_1403 What do you even mean when you say "normal fans"? She is a GFE streamer, her "normal" fans ARE the simps! That's why people watched her.
@@RiskOfBaer Nope. You certainly haven't watched her, and probably have been assuming whatever you heard/read. She was a great entertainer before this whole mafumafu incident, during her russia years. Can't say the same now though.
@@_AdityA_1403 Bro she was always playing into the parasocialism, even during her time as Rushia.
The fact that she was married and divorced within her time as a vtuber really blew my mind upon hearing it. I know it sounds stupid but I literally hadn't considered this could happen I always assumed that vtubers belonging to certain groups had to sign contracts against that stuff...But I'm guessing they don't. I wonder if some of the hololive girls are already happily married and maybe some even have children. And then it got me thinking how do we even know that the person moving the vtuber model is actually even the same person who supplies the voice? It's layers upon layers of falsehoods! At one point it kind of hit me. Like, I've seen Mio, Okayu and Korone irl and they're all large women so it's safe to assume that they can't do backflips and such. Hajime's story about having to abandon her friends because she couldn't tell them anything about her recent going ons and become a hikikomori due to ndas is depressing. Pekora stating that nobody ever finds out her true identity despite her distinctive voice(all of them have that really) but then basically implies that she has to remain silent at all times out in public lol Vtubing and Vtubers are plenty f*cked up but I love it regardless. I'd love to see a manga or anime about a vtuber slowly spiraling out of control...Maybe MikeNeko could be a basis for it lol 😂
Yes some of the hololive roommates are married and have children. I won't say which ones. Don't think about it. You're not there for the person, you're there for the character.
I sympathized with her when she got terminated, because i despise the parasocial nature of fans and I can seperate the person from the avatar. But the more time moved on, the less i started to support her. She feeds into it and does it all to herself. She has zero clue how to just shut up and stop feeding into the hate. She talks and talks and digs herself deeper. She list it all and doesnt seem to understand why. Fame for sure has gotten to her and she lovea people dotnling on her to the point that its scorched earth when it doesnt go her way. I hope the best for her, but there is more issues beyond the surface and she really does need some help if what we've seen is not an entire act.
This video editing style reminded me of Jon Bois, good stuff
I admit i was ill informed in the where abouts of rushia, but holy cow what a hole this was to dive into, thank you for the hard work researching this very entertaining video
This situation is honestly just sad
As soon as she gets done working for Wactor, she'll move on to Niji. Walking the path of dumpsterfires.
yo congrats on reaching 100k
What can be ultimately said about Micheal is that she is entertaining. In good and bad ways
Some people just can’t get out of their own way.
Not a Michael's fan, but also can't take one's eyes off her, periodically go to her streams... and always find a brand new crisis.
There's always something happening to her (recently announced she and Hololive terminated their relationship in "good terms").
She's also has a record of mudslingings before becoming Rushia as Komaro Chino, or another short-lived project, Kamiyo Nia (神代ニア, not to be confunded with a homonym indie Vtuber 神白ニア), quickly ended as soon as she was picked by Hololive.
Yes, she's the ultimate Attention Seeker/Trouble Searcher. Bear Watching.
sometimes, I just f**ing pity her. Especially during the whole Rust situation when every streamers she ran into practically meme'd her. It was funny and sad at the same time. Especially if you're someone like me, who started watching Vtubers because of Uruha Rushia. Heck, she IS my first ever Vtuber and Oshi until I later swapped to Fauna. I was a supporter of her when she got terminated, was cheering her on when she returned as Nazuna and later got the Rushia-like model. But after the Mafumafu incident, that's when I lost all trust in her. Mainly because I've been a way longer fan of Mafumafu. I practically grew up listening to Mafumafu's and Soraru's covers, so I know their character way better than I know Mike's and then there's the message leaks that revealed a bunch of stuff with her badmouthing people whom I thought was her friend in Hololive.
Sometimes they can't be helped. I mean look at Hanna Macchia. She's probably one of the reason public start to know more about Vtubing. But look at her now, being the shell of her former self. Blaming herself for the downfall of NijiID and the loss of her mates.
@@kos2919 i remember her old clips with her dad. Can you tell what happened?
@@НикитаКраснянский-ъ1ц The dad is one of many reasons of her downfall though. She lost half of her American audience because her dad suddenly bringing politic to her stream (Turn out Hana is actually half American half Indonesian). Also there's still debate if he's actually her dad or her "dad"
@@kos2919 after reading your first comment I've spent 20 minutes trying to search what's going up and was very shocked to found out about her 18+ channel. But it's the first time i hear about discussion if he is actually her dad.
@@НикитаКраснянский-ъ1ц lol yeah I never bring her 18+ content because I think it's not necessary in this discussion. I mean people rarely bring up Project Melody side hustle as well.
Opinion of her went from “shes my cute parasocial girlfriend, i wish she never left that company why did she leave us!?” To “Shes the vtuber DSP.”
Holy shit, she is. I didn't even think of that 😂
what’s a dsp
That is wild, you make a great point wth.
She has talent though?
@@kir7719 DarkSydePhil, one of the more well known lolcows in the gaming space
As a former normal fan of Uruha Rushia, i personally just want her to be happy at this point. We know there is too many controversial stuff that she had or claims to have done, but with a huge fanbase that she had before, she cant escape it. We all know too well that she is not so right in her head with her obvious mental issues, so expecting her to live "normally" and not causing problems here and there with her current job, is too much to asked for. The amount of sick parasocial fans, trolls, anti and haters that she had collected, is too much to count to allow her living her life peacefully.
I really dont know what effective solutions that she could have done especially if she plans to keep doing online persona related job while not having the best mental condition and proper plans ahead. I still wish her the best while im not a fan of her current persona so to say~
Same after all that happened I just stopped watching stuff related to her altogether
I swear, people live off of hatred for fuel its their meaning of life.
I loved her "Rushia Arc" and in a way, all that MafuMafu karma... and the aspect of that no one must ever own an idol's heart personally... I can only say this was good cinema in hindsight.
MafuMafu became the villain, then he had a redemption arc ( _or at least I felt sorry for him_ ) and then I found out that MikeNeko is even crazier than what she ever roleplayed as Rushia. 🤣
She even got labelled "The Amber Heard of Japan". 😆
It really is true. Badboys & Badgirls have a dangerous allure. It feels like a faustian pact if you know what you are getting into. And she really embodies this Succubus like vibes now. ^^
Mikeneko is not the Vtubing's Biggest Lolcow, Nimu Spacecat is 100x worst than Mikeneko. I guess you've never heard of that vtuber.
@@TheVtuberRevolutionary Never heard that vtuber before. What happen?
I wouldn't trust Mafumafu either. He's got his own parasocial fanbase and benefits from fishing from sympathy. But if he had as strong of a case as he claimed the courts and his lawyers wouldn't advise settlement. Ultimately the courts didn't find one argument convincingly stronger than the other.
@@sugarrusssheahhh1616 don't listen to him the guy spams that at any comments he's responding to.
@@Ash_Yuthat's why I tend to separate art from artist.
Nice songs, not so nice personality (apparently).
That can be applied to a surprising amount of artists which I won't list bc it would take me a full day lol
'lolcow'... will she go the way of Chris Chan?
Not sure I want a 85 part documentary about Mikeneko or not.
Definitely not... Or at least I surely hope not...
Sure hope not, Chris Chan is an anomaly. I don't want a 2nd one and another 85-86+ documentary series.
She doesn't have a single digit IQ like Chris does, Mikeneko is a functional adult. Her issue is that she isn't addressing her mental illnesses.
She needs to make her own OC and start believing in alternate worlds and dimensions first
Every bad thing that happened to her she brought upon herself. She's obviously farming for content and pity at numerous points and it comes back to bite her hard, but she never learns.
I don't hate her. I don't pity her either. I just wish she stopped being a public internet figure and worked on her mental health instead of farming the simps for cash.
I'm glad Mikeneko is exposed as the maniac she really is...I'm just sad it took Rushia sacrificing herself to do it.
Mikeneko is not the Vtubing's Biggest Lolcow, Nimu Spacecat is 100x worst than Mikeneko. I guess you've never heard of that vtuber.
@@TheVtuberRevolutionarydo tell me
@@crushingonShe's just a girl that defended a sex offender, and had multiple accounts to manipulate her followers, but any hispanic Vtuber that's not Ironmouse is irrelevant anyway.
You Guys are maniacs
@@TheVtuberRevolutionary If no one knows who they are do they even count as being part of the community?
I kept thinking the video was over and then it kept going with even more drama, it's crazy how much trouble she's gotten in to in such a short time
Anybody would after Mafumafus allegations, He Made her a target.
@@FantasiephilosophRaku What a simp lmao
@@blanco5751Unlike you im not a tourist
@@FantasiephilosophRaku lmao what an idiot
@@blanco5751Wow, how original.
"i can fix her" is wild
22:41 if you're rushia simp watching this part while thinking she's perfect girl for you. just know that she would cheat on you if you were to be in relationship or married to her. Once a cheater always a cheater
shes a cheater and on top of that mentally ill.
which means she will have random outbursts and make her partner responsible for it.
if anything she belongs into a mental institute and should have been in one ever since cover fired her.
I have no respect for the likes of her. She is everything I hate in a vtuber plus her being a manipulator is disgusting.
Mafumafu and the court approved her statement denying the cheating allegations ...
@@FantasiephilosophRaku
the case was settled not because she is in the right but because there wouldnt be a point pressing charges when there isnt anything to gain from it.
that type of stuff happens all the time in family court.
@@uteriel282 Again, the court and he himself approved her statement where she denied the cheating allegations and if that is wrong Mafumafu would, like he always did, immediately answer. It isnt about the settlement, its about him and the court approving her statement denying his allegations (cheating included). You cant make allegations like Mafumafu did, not back them up despite blabbering having evidence and witnesses, getting told by the judge that the prosecution would be little to none (which is weird, the punishment doesnt fit the crimes he accused her of) and then make a statement playing victim and saying you dont have done anything immoral against the other party.
Solo es una criaturita de 35 años, a esa edad son tremendos.
Nah, I can't resonate anymore with this crazie. I just like a relationship, you remember the past good and throw away the present bad and move away. I think she only does all this things because she havent got consequences yet (I do lawsuit, I lose, simps give me money, I lost nothing and I can repeat). All lack of tangible consequences where her crazy rich fans enable her to spiral down further and further until ... nah, not even the threat of unaliving will stop her lol
P.T. Barnum once said "There’s no such thing as bad publicity." I think Rushia/Mike is a contender for being a text book example of it.
no no no, this is actually working as intended. The bad publicity is the reason why DN still make another video of her now. And the fact we still watch it means the bad publicity work.
Now if people start forgetting her, it's worse fate than death.
I feel sorry for her unstable emotional and annoyed at how stupid some her decisions seem to be.
I can't help but still feel bad for her, because she is mentally ill, she probably imagined the rust thing would be funny, cuz if done in Hololive it would of been funny roleplay not toxic. I think she makes the alts so she can get away from herself and her rep from time to time. She made me laugh all the time back in the day, although I never donated.
Mikeneko's story can be summarised as an example of "You've made your bed and now you must lie in it". She brought most of this upon herself.
Its crazy having your former oshi's irl persona is now a lolcow.
just the will to survive in this growing vtuber industry and wanting the glory she had keeps her motivated which is surprising or maybe she is scared that she would be lost in the history with no significant contribution to it. dont really know but being updated on what she is upto every few months is enough to keep me motivated for the ventures i wanna persue lol
Fan dead: *starts crying*
Me: "You are my special 🎙️"
love the return to form DN. now wheres my Sana video about how sometimes things cant be and shits just like that sometimes… (great vid man)
MikeNeko appeal in four words: I can fix her
No thats shiori. Mikeneko is "fuck this i'm out"
MafuMafu thought that once... XD
You can never fix an abuser, word is bond. You just run, literally drop everything and run. There is no person on the planet worth putting yourself through that hell.
You can never fix an abuser, word is bond. You just run, literally drop everything and run. There is no person on the planet worth putting yourself through that hell.
You can never fix an abuser, word is bond. You just run, literally drop everything and run. There is no person on the planet worth putting yourself through that hell.
I haven't heard "Michal" this many times, since the last time I played Metal Wolf Panic.
To think that all of this wouldn't have happened if Mikeneko put more thoughts on her actions, says a lot about her mental problems 😂🤣
Mikeneko is not the Vtubing's Biggest Lolcow, Nimu Spacecat is 100x worst than Mikeneko. I guess you've never heard of that vtuber.
@@TheVtuberRevolutionary biggest in the sense of most popular
@@TheVtuberRevolutionary If there's not many people outside your community knew them, they're not popular enough 😅
Woman moment
@@TheVtuberRevolutionaryBot
You know what they say, "If you're going through hell, keep going"
One problem I keep seeing her do is she keep threatening people with lawsuit
No one can criticize her
I saw a while ago Japanese fans showing DM which Mikeneko threatened to sue them if they keep talking about her. She really needs to learn how to ignore people
Death threats, bomb threats and whatever attacks and slander should Not BE ignored, IT went far past a Point of being OK for a Long Time.
Dude, those can't be called comments🥲
@@VRW-jx3kp Like literally, what people are throwing at her IS Not criticism, ITS gaslighting, victim blaming, slander, insults and obsessive cyberbullying, those Guys been at her for two years enough IS enough.
Hope those people all get their Karma for what they did
Commenting mid-video just to say that I jope Nous gets more promotion from this channel 👍
she still a baddie tho ngl…..
Feels like being a vtuber, you can create a new life, like a character creator. Re:Life.(not the anime)
What i dislike about her is, above all, the fact that she never really apologized, never truly asked for forgiveness
she went from the perfect girl to the worse in a single event
hopefully she makes a comeback like nikocado
Nikocado is still a fking degen bro what are we talking about right now lol. He's just skinny but still a huge prick 😂
that is, unfortunately, not happening
nikocado planned everything he did, he said what he was gunna do, and then did it.
this woman is just insane
looking at what she did after leaving hololive ,I think she lacks common sense of socializing ,the hard management in corpo kinda suppressed her "cursed characteristic"
"Perfect girl"
Bruh...., you're putting her on a pedestal.
Needy streamer overdose's bgm is just icing on the cake 🤣🤣
Despite everything, she's still her... I guess?
Mikeneko needs to take 6 months away from the internet to work on herself. If she does that, she can come back stronger than ever, but she needs to disappear for a while.
Money doesnt rain from the Sky you know?
@@FantasiephilosophRaku
and simping wont get you pussy.
@@FantasiephilosophRakushe probably has more money than you, me and op will ever gather together in our lives bro.
@@Matheus-ue1qb How do you want to know? You have her bank Account? Medical Costs, bills and lawyer Costs are also high. She Had the opportunity to move on with her Life and having a stable income by doing various Things Like VA Work, Ponycanyon and having Sponsors but Mafumafus completely botchered all of IT. Just because you have Money doesnt mean IT will forever BE there, what she needs IS a income she gets regulary, Who can Tell If she still even earns Money after her Break when Most people forget her or dont watch her anymore. I would agree with you If IT was her in 2023 but this IS Something she cant afford, ITS a high risk.
I can't help but like Mike. I guess it's our natural morbid curiosity as humans to know more about the things or people that may not be the greatest so that we can learn something about ourselves.
Or maybe not idk.
damn, vcr rust really makes me forget how toxic is the rust community actually
Good vod nousagi good job on that one very interesting
Oh Rushia, may your drama never end. I wonder where your hardcore simps are now and what are they doing? Are they still simping for you or have they moved on to simp for someone else?
Facts dude, I cannot get enough of this dumpster fire
If you read thru the comment section you might find one xD
Nope, still simpin'
they still think they can fix her
If you watch the video till the end, you can see her simps are still aplenty
Correction for the 8 lawyers:
She's hiring 1 (ONE) lawyer, but the papers was signed by all the lawyers in that firm, all 8 of them. And it's pretty common thing in Japan.
Chris-chan should marry her.
Yes, I still like her, and I will continue to like her, I just hope she makes better decisions in her life and manages to be happy (The person and the character).
I know I am just speculating here.
Whenever a Holo member leave, the other holomembers are sad and some of them even cries on stream.
But when Rushia left, most of them are emotionless and/or just plain professional.
Till this day, I wonder why
My guess... they're all secretly against her, behind those smiles of theirs, no matter who she worked with, they all left her behind. Remember them and their faces and remember who they left behind after that day, they never considered her as a friend this is the true hololive we all watched everyday hiding behind their avatar. Their farewells are only for their friends like the recently left Amelia but never for her, Rushia was never their friend which I believe is the true and real hololive behind the scenes.
@@win2teabag009 Or you know, considering that there's plenty of evidence suggesting Rushia was highly unstable and volatile, nobody wanted to associated with her behind the scenes. If you're in a company and literally everybody hates you or won't give you time of day, maybe the problem is you and not the company.
@@Winters004 I had a former coworker who was extremely rude, narcissistic and disrespectful. Im going to skip many details since its a long boring story.
One of the worst things she did to me was to slander me and to force me into admiting I stole the company money even though I didnt do such a thing. She was trying to cover up her own mess because the money from the sales were short that day. I demanded her to show proof of me stealing but she couldnt. It turns out, there was no missing money, she just made a miscalculation.
By the way, her disgusting attitude isnt just targeted towards me. Shes like an immature child who throws tantrums at the office and shouts at anyone she had a disagreement and disputes with.
I'll skip her terrible deeds to others because again, long story, there was a time that she played the victim that she felt like everyone at the office are up and arms against her.
The urge to roll our eyes at the back of our eye sockets were strong. After all the way she treated us, she had the audacity to play the victim and portray us as bullies.
Im no longer working at that company. She left the company before I did. I vividly remember that almost everyone were glad that she left.
Yes, bullying at school or workplace does happen. Bullies love to gang up against one person because they could use their numbers to twist the truth in case the victim asks for help. But sometimes, you really need to self reflect. Sometimes, maybe the problem is you.
We didnt bully her. It was the other way around. She treated us badly THEN played the victim and acted like as if she was bullied since we started being cold towards her.
What? You think I'll warmly greet you with a smile after you tried to get me incriminated just to cover up your mess? If her lies and accusations were believed, I couldve been in jail you know. 😐
When Rushia left hololive, we know almost nothing on how they treated each other irl behind the scenes. But the holo members not even being sad when Rushia left says a lot. Again, just speculation but it does paint a bad picture when you think about it.
@@win2teabag009 ruclips.net/video/CPEfFlAaDvE/видео.htmlsi=WQ8L-Y1TS4gQTo5j
Here is one compiled clip of some Holomembers who spoke about Rushia's departure. Again, just speculating but they are not as sad as when Coco left. Even Watame cried when Coco left. Yet here, Watame was just there. They are mostly just professional about it.
@@garchompelago Because Rushia never really collab much outside her Gen, and was mostly Marine & kinda Pekora, and it was Marine who always pulls Rushia to kinda join in the group (and generally other members who invite her) and was always SO awkward towards other members, while Coco was involving herself to every Gen, hanging out IRL, offline collab hence why probably many were more emotional about her leaving adding she pretty much put herself in the crosshair for that idiotic drama.
Idk why Rushia never tried to involve herself with other members, probably the inflated Ego given she was the most SC member before her Termination and have alot of subs + she probably didn't want to destroy her GFE (Girlfriend Experience) content because that was her thing.
I don't watch much vtubers anymore or following dramas but idk if Mikeneko already said her reasons for not involving herself much towards other member etc then theirs also the fact that some if not most members did have online presence was generally popular and so some members pretty much know each other (if i remember Pekora and Rushia were already a acquaintance), the reason why other members probably also didn't try to pull Rushia to collab with them etc because they probably already know her personality aka bad blood going on etc or just generally hard to work with.
Great video. I agree with you. I just want her to get on some medication or something and have a good life.