Should Ganon return after Tears of the Kingdom?
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- Опубликовано: 5 ноя 2021
- If Breath of the Wild's sequel ends the story of Ganon, should Zelda move towards a new main villain? Have we seen too much Ganon?
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Ganon is just such an iconic Zelda villain that I can’t really imagine him not existing anymore in the Zelda series. I personally would love to see more of Ganondorf, the intelligent and manipulative version instead of the beast.
I'd like to see more of the Ganon from Link to the Past. Mind of the man, body of the beast. We haven't got that in a 3D Zelda game before.
Yeah, GANONDORF has been severely underutilized in the series in my opinion.
Villain and why I simp him smarty
Intelligent and coning why he's my favorite none
I too prefer his human version over the beast one. I really hope we see him again in BOTW2.
Ganon is like Bowser, he always find his way back
Lol bowers
Bowzers
Except Link doesn’t go go karting with Ganon
@Nate Zurlent More like Thanos.
Ah yes my favourite nintendo villain, Bowers
Zeltik: "I don't think anyone can replace Ganon as a Zelda villain"
Aonuma: "Wait till we make Tingle reach the Triforce"
Honestly, if there was a twist, and it was fucking tingle, I'd love it.
Calamity Ganon is a manifestation of Tingle's Insanity after finding the triforce. Tingle is like Mr Glass from Unbreakable. Obsessed with the idea of a Hero of Time and drawing him out, Tingle razed the kingdom to the ground in order to manifest Link.
that would be too much power for both Link and Zelda to handle
Suddenly Ganon’s dark world doesn’t sound so bad 😱 😂
@@marcussanchez6005 Imagine Tingle's dark world: Present Day Capitalism
They should make Gannondorf more interactive with the world (make him take in-game actions throughout the game which which affects areas/towns, etc), rather than just kind of hanging out until the end of the game.
Yes this
This is a cool idea, kind of reminds me of bowser from bowser’s fury
He does indirectly with malous. But i think you mean, his physical form
@@thesis-and-nieces6722 you mean malice right
I wouldn't mind seeing new villains, but I oppose the idea of retiring Ganon. As you stated in the video, he is forever tied to the Triforce, like Link and Zelda.
i agree I would love to see more of a varity of villains in zelda but if you think of Zelda villains you think of ganon and i think thats a good thing
Same here
Exactly! Well said.
same
I agree completely, Ganondorf is essential to the Zelda franchise.
I agree, not seeing Ganon anymore at this point would be like if they moved on from Zelda or even Link. The series wouldn’t be the same.
Is it explicitly told that the "Corpse" in that cave is actually Ganon(dorf)? I thought it was just a trend in Zelda games, that the first villain is Ganon and the second in a follow up is something else. Like Ganon is the ignitor to a flame of evil that follows. I don't see Ganon being the main villain in BOTW2 but more like the catalyst to something bigger.
I would love to see Ganon and Ganondorf evolving into their own separate entities.
I think he should disappear, make room for a successor of sorts. Even if he's like the "background" influence, just not him
@@ducking_up that corpse is definitely Ganondorf and it literally has all his features including Gerudo jewels which is Ganondorf’s race. And story wise it makes sense for it to be Ganondorf
We haven't seen Ganondorf in the flesh in the mainline series since Twilight Princess, which was 15 years ago. I think it's time to see him again.
“Dude just won’t die”- Link and Zelda probably
"Dude just won't die" Ganon too probably about link
I’m for the Big Man over the Pig Man - definitely would LOVE to see more of Ganondorf (he’s manipulative, creepy, and his character design is perfect - he is such an iconic villain!) I never got the same “chills” from Ganon, as he just seems like a mindless beast that Ganondorf releases or wears as a suit? I’m so stoked for BOTW2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think if he returns every so often, it’s a good thing. I wouldn’t want him as the villain of every game, but I’m super excited to see him again in BOTW2!
Exactly
same but i think it is time to have Ganon be gone for good, and i think BOTW2 is that final time ganon will ever exist, i think Aonoma and Miyamoto are just running out of ways to bring Ganondorf back and the fact that botw2 has ganondorf's gerudo form returning means to me that the Cycle is coming to an end.
also they need to have Link and Zelda explore new places and such like they did with the Oracle Saga and part of the Link between worlds story cause let us be honest there is only so much one can do with the same locations and story.
and no not do the whole Four Swords Adventure thing which is still to this day contradicts things cause of Vaati and such
Maybe just like 60% of all games
If Ganon goes away then zelda and link go too!!
I can't wait to hear him voice acted in a cut scene
I always wondered if Ganon is just a local problem of Hyrule and what the rest of the world is doing while Ganon does his shenanigans.
Kinda like Voldemort- is it just a U.K problem, or what? lol
While DIO and Dr wily are world wide.
They're too busy fighting Pinocchios in masks to worry about Ganon ;)
I think so too . I mean Legend of Zelda could actually take place in the same universe as both the Kid Icarus and Fire Emblem series but those society’s probably have their own issues going on
Ganondorf: probably doesn't care about the rest of the world unless they get involved in his affairs first.
I feel like having Ganon as a concept is fine. We have lore of reincarnations of Link, Zelda, and Demise, but like, you can make every Ganon/Ganondorf (or other Demise-reincarnation if they wanted it) unique unlike say, Bowser in Mario, who's tied down to being a specific character. On top of that, we could always pull a Termina or New Hyrule and just have a game take place in a new place or a Minish Cap and have essentially a side-story in between reincarnations.
So yeah, I don't think Ganon necessarily has to become a tired concept because Nintendo can put in different villains between reincarnations, and they can change up what the particular reincarnation is like. For instance, although not all reincarnations, think about how many different Links there are and how different they are from each other. There's commonalities between the versions to serve the games' needs, but they're all mostly unique in some way.
All three main characters, Link, Zelda, and Demise, are TEMPLATES for characters, not necessarily the characters themselves, and Nintendo doesn't need to get rid of templates, they just need to apply variety when using them.
Wouldn’t zeldas template be Hylia
@@lxxdccvii3740 It doesn't really matter what you call it. Point is that it exists
Gannon should only be retired when link is retired as Gannon is linked to the Triforce. Possibly only if if Demise is fully destroyed but that would be the end of the IP
Or you know we could tell fairytales that don't involve the triforce and associated BS Like the good zeldas ie links awakening, Majoras Mask and minish cap
Demise was fully destroyed, only his curse lives on.
Couldnt there be another then? Or a game about the fact that theres noone for that part of the triforce and because of that there will be a war to get it, and maybe you play as someone other than link and get it? Idk, this is an improvised theory so probably not
@@deodrasshelios7957 isnt ganon his reincarnation tho
@@infinignite correct ......kinda
I would personally like to see more of Ganondorf. The idea of having a cunning and motivated opponent is more engaging for me, personally. His back story and motivations are interesting as well
And don't forget his original motivations about saving his people from the deadliness of the desert... I like Wind Waker's Ganondorf the most bc he has such deep characterization, other than just the simpleminded "big ol' baddie"
@@elli_senfsaat true.. imagine getting to see more of Ganon's personal beliefs and motives, and more of his ties to the Gerudo. Imagine him using the Gerudo as his army. Would be an interesting turn of events after the Gerudo worked against him in BOTW, plus we already saw a snippet of this in him manipulating Nabooru's body in OOT
You can have other cunning and motivated opponents, though. I'd be happy if they put a clean bow on 'dorf to finish his arc in BotW2. Like - it'd be dope to disconnect the Gerudo from Demise's curse, and Ganon will take other forms within other people.
@@elli_senfsaat I liked Wind Waker's Ganondorf's characterization a lot, but even moreso when you look at the story of the entire series, branching paths included. You get the impression that WW Ganondorf after all this time started to grow aware of this cycle he's perpetually trapped in.
@@RandoGrunt Right. I'm still curious as to what depth Ganondorf is Demise's curse. Did he lose himself to it as it asserted itself in the years following his birth, or was he "born evil" and just had to learn to drive a meat sack capable of wielding magic? The first possibility is sad but the second possibility sounds far too lazy. Another question I have is who sired Ganondorf? His surrogate mothers were Twinrova, but the uh, sperm donor is never mentioned. I've been mentally toying with the possibility that they may have been impregnated by the curse directly...
To me, the Legend of Zelda series feels less like a story in a timeline and more like a myth that changes with every retelling, while keeping the essential elements the same. Which is to say I also enjoy change-ups to that myth, but at the same time, I do like the comfort of those common elements of Link, Zelda, Ganon(dorf), the Master Sword, and Triforce with the setting of Hyrule and familiar races like the Zora, Gorons, and Deku.
That's how I always viewed it too. Like different versions of a fairy tale people heard growing up. "I heard he was a time traveler!" I heard he transformed into a wolf!" "I heard he had a red horse, or wait, was it a red boat?"
Yeah
Obviously, people can interpret the games however they want. But the fact does still remain that the majority of the games reference each other as being different events in the timeline (such as the prologue in The Wind Waker referencing the events of Ocarina of Time), rather than being different versions of the same story.
i've never thought about it that way, i've always seen it as a complicated story
On one side it's the original intention - Shigeru Miyamoto sees game characters as actors or cartoon characters where in one story they're in an epic tale and in the next they're racing karts together. This allows for different gameplays and scenarios and avoids the hassle of a timeline without having to eventually ditch villains. This works well for Mario for example.
Zelda didn't have an official timeline up until the game began to have a heavier lore, referencing previous things, causing fans to start to try and connect the dots until Eiji Aonuma said "aight here you go" and "canonized a timeline". BOTW was set so sooo far in the future to avoid these problems. The official site just says "feck it all timelines lead to this" even if it doesn't make full sense in all of them. It's a soft reboot of sorts to return to the old formula without having to erase or retcon a lore - something that would upset a lot of the fans.
That said, you're right - just like a fan that loves the timeline is right aswell. Hence the official Hyrule historia on the timeline itself establishes that Eiji Aonuma wants you, the player, to in the end interpret the story as your imagination sees fit.
I'd love to see a LoZ storyline where Link, Zelda and Ganondorf all grow up together, being friends and genuinely being a triforce united but have some great tragedy cause a divide and hatred to stir inside Ganondorf. Having him turn on his friends, attempt to destroy them or take the triforce for himself out of hatred and malice might be a fun story.
There's a headcanon going around that I've loved, that the Malice energy and version of Ganon that we fight was actually the curse of Demise given physical form, a form slain by the Hero of the Wilds. With the BoTW 2 trailer showing Ganondorf I saw theories regarding that as being Ganondorf *without* the Curse of Demise, sighting the potential of him being a lot weaker but also not having the same drive and hatred toward the goddess and the hero. While not a good guy he's be much more tame and thoughtful, reflecting on his history.
While I don't think it's the direction Nintendo is going with the character, it's a theory that I love and I felt was worth mentioning.
Never gonna happen
I was actually just thinking about possible endings to the curse, and as a big Avatar and MHA fan the first thing I thought of was saving Ganondorf instead of killing him. It would be interesting to see if they ever decide to close the book on Ganon but I have no idea how they'd do it so they probably won't
It seems like your theory is a possibility, if you look at the newest trailers
he will always be back, even after the curse of Demise is broken Ganon will always come back, although personally I wouldn’t mind him taking a break and letting Vati, Majora, or any of the other baddies taking the next couple of games before making his return
same;
i mean Vati hardly has any reason to be evil anymore, Majora is just a mask so theres even less there as long as noone ever steals it again and wears it, at the end its mostly gonna be ganon or some random dude thats just replacing ganon for abit till he comes back at the end.
@@monokomomo4977 do you know anything about zelda? majora is not just a mask, and Vati is evil.
@@monokomomo4977 I mean… Vati could still want more power and seek the mask? Idk mango if Nintendo saw an opportunity to make more money they’d come up with a reason
I’d definitely love more backstory on Majora.
Personally I loved TP for this reason. You go through the game witnessing to all the fucked up things Zant forces upon Hyrule, how this once cool masked character reveals himself as an insane child-like creature fascinated by Ganon - and all these evil things he's done was basically to IMPRESS Ganon.
I would like to see the Gerudo’s reaction to seeing their king is still alive.
Or to see the King realize he's been usurped. By Riju.
@@liamanderson7082 The old Gerudo laws, from OoT, state that the lone male Gerudo born every 100 years is to become their king, regardless of who the leader is at the time. That’s why Nabooru is his “second in command” of the Gerudo.
If Ganondorf wasn’t born she would have been the main one in charge, their Queen.
If that law is still in place, if he showed up looking normal in BotW’s world and hid that he was evil, that would make him King again by default and make Riju second in command.
But I don’t know if that law is still in effect by the time of BotW.
I think that BotW takes place so long after the other games that the gerudo don't remember ever having a king
@@admiraloscar3320 No. the reason they don’t allow voe is because their king who turned evil was a voe and they no longer trust males.
@Hooty HOOT HOOT bc apparently, if the theories are correct, he never died.
Would love a prequel / origin story for Ganondorf. His life as a young Gerudo, etc
Even if BotW 2’s plot revolves around breaking Demise’s curse, that wouldn’t mean that there would be no more Ganon. If Nintendo wanted to have Ganon as the main antagonist again, they would just have to set any new games chronologically before the curse was broken.
I had always thought it was strange that BotW takes place so long after the other games, but with the sequel in mind it makes so much more sense. Because BotW happens so long after everything else, it makes having games take place chronologically before it much easier. I would actually bet that this is evidence that BotW 2 will be about breaking Demise’s curse, seeing how the setting gives the developers the freedom to do something that drastic.
That would be an interesting take - no matter how many Zelda games are made after BOTW 2, we know that BOTW 2 is the end of the series chronologically unless it's a non-Ganon game.
I wouldn't mind seeing a BOTW 3 where Majora comes back, but Majora/its spirit directly, not in the form of the mask. Give it a more fleshed-out origin, maybe make it be from the twilight realm or something.
I'm hoping we get a future Zelda game where we see all the timelines merge together
@@superstarcormier Having a game that tells the final story or breaking of the curse would be interesting but ofcourse thier would be plenty of other games. Oot was brought in as an explination of Link's green tunic and such' and skyward sword went even ferthur back giving more origion to Link' Zelda and Ganondorf. Another story that could be made into a game was Demise war for the triforce. As long as we can finde some plotholes to fill and some more stories the zelda franchise will continue to expand eather alternate timelines or exsisting games.
I really hope so. I'm so fed up with stories about "destiny" or "saving the world" (as if Hyrule is the center of the universe) and I've never liked Demise or Ganondorf as big bads. If they would actually commit to a game that ends the nonsense they started with skyward bored and allows them to start telling lower stakes fairy tails again, I might stop hating the storyline for every game.
@@KitCloud1 The oracle games and Link's awakening for example went in a diferent direction with final bosses other then Ganondorf so I think some more games with that plot would be good and even if the curse is broken Zelda' link and Ganondorf's desendents could still fight over the triforce from time to time but some games that don't just repeat each other with the get three jewels' finde the master sword and beat Ganon would be a breath of fresh air. As I was saying thier are some other stories and plotholes to fill that would make good games and not just repeat the process agian.
I think Ganon should always return. An intelligent Ganon at that. Awesome video Zeltik. I love all your videos
If he doesn’t the internet will throw a fit
Ganon is a neccessary component to the Zelda series you can't have it without him.
True! The reason why the iterarions of Zelda, Link, Ganon, and even Impa have worked so well for years is because, while they sometimes retain some personality characteristics that tie them, each version is their own person. That's why I haven't grown tired of them. They may have similar looks and the same names, but each of their realities makes them unique characters.
Here's my take: I think we should continue seeing Ganon incarnations in the series going forward, BUT I think we should be done w/ the specific Ganondorf that had his origin in OoT. That version of the character's had a well written climax to his arc in both WW & TP, as well as a good enough one in the downfall timeline. Let's continue having Ganon but do w/ him what we already do w/ Link & Zelda: have a new incarnation of the him w/ different a backstory & changes to personality between incarnations.
That's part of the fun of getting a new Zelda & Link! Seeing how they're different from their previous versions & what each game wants to try this time w/ them. If we can get the cowardly to brave Spirit Tracks Zelda; childhood romance girl next door SS Zelda, & the genius Princess struggling w/ he destiny BotW Zelda, why not the same for Ganon? How cool would it be to see a Ganon who knew Link from a young age? A more sympathetic version who hates his curse alongside everything else? Or heck, what if one game gives us a Ganon who's YOUNGER than that games Zelda & Link.
You have a reincarnating character. The sky's the limit! :)
Dude that sounds so fun! Maybe have a game where Link's an old man pulled out of retirement because this newly crowned young Gerudo chief who thinks his shit doesn't stink is picking a fight with other world leaders.
Went that way because a young adult Link hunting down a child Ganondorf would be difficult to pull off without offending a lot of people lol.
Continuing with the previous idea: part of the mainline string of quests would be finding and training someone to take your place because Link's an old man and youth and enthusiasm will eventually wear down age and treachery lol.
I think they were trying to go that way with the Ganon that had been a reincarnation. I think that would have been a great way to move on, or even have that villain from A Link Between Worlds (I forget his name) make a return since he's all but Ganon in name anyway.
We need Ganondorf as much as we need the Triforce. I don't know if it's possible to permanently remove him after his appearance has influenced so much of the franchise. Heck I don't even think we would've gotten the Gerudo tribe and their "male born every 100 years" backstory lore without Ganondorf being the key focus and even the origin of that is still a mystery.
I don't think every game needs to feature Ganon/Ganondorf, but when we do see him, it would be nice to see him changed up a little bit. Not to the point where he's unrecognizable, but like maybe different armor, more detail in variation when it comes to the "pig form" of Ganon, that kind of thing. Enough that he stands out a lot more in comparison to previous games.
Also, in games where it is the same Ganondorf/Ganon as a previous game, it would be interesting to see an attack or two that is highly reminiscent of an attack he does in that prior game which is countered in the same manner as that game, so you feel as if you're continuing a fight that you'd fought long ago, but with new attacks that come along with it to really spice it up.
I’m gonna sum up your comment. Keep doing the same thing you’ve been doing Nintendo. Thank you!
One of my favorite parts about Skyward Sword is that with Zelda and Link being 2/3, the only person left to fill the third role is Groose, and the idea that Groose is a window into a Ganondorf that could have existed without the curse of Demise.
Personally, I'd also be really hyped for a spinoff or sequel that twists the formula to the left or right, giving us a Heroic Ganondorf trying to save Link from an evil Zelda or a Heroic Zelda trying to save Ganondorf from a corrupted Link. At this point, I'm a little tired of always seeing Power=Evil when the 3 parts of the triforce are supposed to be equal.
I think you have it backwards. It's not that "power = evil," it's that "evil desires power at all costs." The Triforce of power isn't inherently evil, it just has the misfortune of being fated to end up in the hands of men cursed to be evil by Demise in order to torment Hylia..
I think my favorite version of Ganondorf was in Twilight Princess. At the time of it's release, it was rewarding and a bit shocking to see him as the true villain of that story. I'm excited to see what they do with his character in the Breath of the Wild sequel.
I think they can include other villains as main villains but I dont think they should drop Ganon/Ganondorf entirely. Botw seemed to be a "new start" and I think they can include Ganon in different ways & make it more fresh. He's as integral to the series as Link or Zelda. He isnt just a "big baddie", he's 1/3rd of the triforce. But like I said, they can have more unique games like MM.
What I would prefer is seeing Demise once more, and after you beat him we get a different version of Ganon. Instead of a Gerudo, he could be a Rito, a Zora, a Goron and so on. With that we can have many different versions of Ganon, or whatever he ends up being called. Instead of a giant pig-like monster, he can be a giant aquatic monster, or a mountain sized beast. Maybe even a human who ends up getting cursed with the curse of Demise.
You're thinking an Avatar style cycled Demise. I like it
What if we get rito link? That would be truly epic
I think retiring the curse is a good idea.
@@ajrobson2191 If anything, a Link that is half Hylian and Zora
Links just seem to have luck with Zora princesses as seen with Ruto and Mipha
@@superheriber27 I think that a great idea, I mean in the age of calamity timeline (which isn’t exactly cannon but you know for arguments sake) Mipha survives and that one part of the vah Ruta memory may have come true when mipha said: “perhaps we could spend a little more time together” or something like that. Anyway cool idea!
I'd argue with that such a deep lore of this series, and in particular, the curse Demise lays upon Link and Zelda, that the end of Ganon is really the end of them all.
Honestly I’d love to see a return of vaati, especially in a human form, the the game after BotW2, I want to see that dark purple figure and hear that cataclysmic theme in a 3D game that can do more with a sound track, and as a villain I find him interesting, I mean his interest in the evil in the hearts of men, he as a character is both the embodiment of chaos and calamity while also being a calmer less emotional villain? Often just giggling instead for the full on evil laugh you’d expect. I’m rambling I just want to see vaati
Yeah, Vaati in his humanoid form is a really interesting villain and a breath of fresh air for the series. Too bad his beast form is kind of lame, trying to marry Zelda and all that. I don't see any reason the more human version couldn't come back if someone were to draw the Four Sword again and break the seal.
@@SoIstice honestly the only problem with bringing back vatti is those later/worse appearances, because it’s heavily implied he got that way because while in his initial sealing he forgot everything from his prior life and as such lost what made him such a good villian, so how do you make him the same villain he was in minish cap without making it take place inbetween between minish cap and four swords, (because I doubt nintendo will want to make something before breath of the wild, witch was put so far ahead of everything else specifically to give nintendo a fresh start timeline wise)
Vaati and Agahnim
I think he is the only villain in the series that rivals Ganondorf in swag, sheer power and evilness.
I want Vaati back so bad, I miss him, relegated to multiplayer spinoffs that I can't find anyone to play with
I don't want to say goodbye to Ganon, just a break :) He's been in OoT, WW, TP, BotW, and now BotW2. And SS could be considered his origin story. So as far as the "mainline" games that most people have played, that's a LOT of them. I think a break to explore other villains for a few games would be good.
I wouldn't mind if Bowser and Ganon took a break (I would like to see a return of the main enemy from Zelda: Link's Awakening in a new Zelda game. As for Mario, He has two other major villains: King Wart (the main bad guy from Mario 2, who also made a cameo in Link's Awakening. Wart is pretty much the Freddy Kruger of the Nintendo multiverse) and Tatanga (he was the main villain alien invader in Super Mario Land and the second to the last boss of Super Mario Land 2 and was the main villain on many of the early 90's Mario comics when Bowser and Wart weren't used). Would be nice to see Wart and Tatanga and the final enemy from Link's Awakening used in future Mario and Zelda games (since it adds to both games rogues galleries. Varied rogues galleries are important. The Batman franchise is an example of this), but save Bowser and Ganon for a surprise return in much later future Mario and Zelda games so when they do show up, their appearances feel more important (kind of like when Joker shows up in a Batman comic whenever the other villains like Catwoman, Penguin, Riddler, etc, aren't being used).
Your not a Zelda fan if the Gerudo king isn’t apart of the game, go play luigis mansion if you want a break from the most iconic antagonists in history.
@@treyseeseequasis9160 hes in less than half of the games.............
Metroid has shown you can permanently kill off your main baddy and still thrive but I think ganon might be too integral to the lore to kill off. I always end up preferring unique antagonists like majora, vaati and zant over ganon tho, and I'm down for less formulaic parts of the Zelda series
I mean with Skyward showing us Ganon's origins in Demise it shows that it isn't ganon himself that is integral just the evil he represents. We can totally kill him off for good, and have a new incarnation of Demise pasted Ganon.
Permanently killed off? I don’t know, I suspect we’ll see Ridley again somehow
@@goldlight1322 Pretty sure he means the Metroids they have remained dead since metroid 2 and have stayed that way and the latest game in Dread only doubled down on that
Metroid I feel is a little different because it follows a more direct chronology where the Zelda series spance hundreds, thousands or melleniums apart from each other and are not one continous plot. Like yeah, Twilight Princess is set after Ocarina of Time but is its own self contained story.
I don't know if you are refering the the Metoids or Ridley but in both cases it would feel so forced iff they tried to squeeze them into Dread. Like how many times can you kill Ridely and try to make some excuse for why he is back. How many times can you have all Metroids killed but have one survive or be cloned or what ever.
@@TheZebbga I think ganon is similar where we've killed him in a couple timelines but he always comes back so whatever, like I remember hearing people get bored by him being the "suprise" villian in games like link between worlds and twilight, and I think if it continues then that thought will be more common. I think they could end the curse and just make new villians, whether they're recurring or not
I honestly adore the cyclical nature of Zelda. There's something fascinating about these three archetypes--the princess, the villain, and the hero--eternally circling each other, finding their way back into the world, only to be resolved and recycled once again. However, if they were to take a break from Ganon for a game or two, I wouldn't mind. But I doubt they'd ever abandon him entirely. It would still be interesting to see the evil of Demise return in other forms.
One storyline I think would be interesting is if the triad each learned of the cycle they're trapped in. Would they try to break the cycle? Would they see it as inevitable and accept their roles? I also think it would be interesting to see Ganon and Demise exist in the same space. Perhaps Ganon learns of his origins and seeks to resurrect Demise properly. Would they cooperate, or would they betray each other? Can they even exist at the same time?
He's like the devil, he fits a character roll that belongs in the fight of good and evil that the zelda franchise has always had.
Zelda: "Finally. After so many millennia... Ganondorf is finally gone."
*Ganondorf respawns*
Ganondorftwo: "What? You guys reincarnate all the time, but when I do it suddenly it's unfair?"
This made me chuckle haha😄 have a like 👍🏻 also made me think of the Mew + Mewtwo thing with cloning and genetical engineering 🧬 Genetically Enhanced Ganondorf… 🤔😱
RE-STOCK!
Sephiroth: "I gave him one of mine."
@@theoaremevano3227 lol
Honestly I would like to play a game of Ganon as he grows up in the desert, he may be a villain but remember he's human deep down just possessed by a demon with a grudge, maybe they could try giving him a story of how he was as a child not knowing about his power and just trying to survive off his learning from the witches who raised him.
If he doesn’t the internet will throw a fit
@@Seven-9090 huh?
I really like this idea. The last time we ever got some real character development with him was back in Wind Waker.
@@Seven-9090 you're spamming under every comment lol
Was Ganondorf possessed by a demon? He was an incarnation so he’s technically born a demon in human form right?
Contrary to "oh noes, Bowser got Peach again!" I'm far from tired of seeing Ganon (especially -dorf) try to come up with schemes to take over Hyrule.
Dial down the princess kidnapping a bit and I'm all in for several more games with him as the main antagonist. Wouldn't mind a temporary cooperation against a greater evil between the wielders of the Triforce either.
And give the man his long overdue solo game already!
Hey man I know it’s hard to pump out content with such a drought in between games, but we really just like hearing you talk about anything Zelda. You could make a whole video on any random character and I’d watch it. Hope there are some more soon.
Speak for yourself
(so i can say the same)
YES HE SHOULD. Either way though, it seems he’s gonna be there.
If he doesn’t the internet will throw a fit
@@Seven-9090 Why do you feel the need to spam it as relentlessly as you do? We get it, you don't like when internetz have opinions, chill.
Given that the series hasn’t been released in chronological order, even if BotW2 is Ganon’s swan song in the timeline, there’s no reason it has to be his swan song from the series, so Nintendo can easily go back and revisit earlier periods with him as the villain of that entry in the series. And given the whole reincarnation cycle nature of the series, they could easily introduce new takes on him without overly conflicting by simply having each be a different incarnation and could even use it to explore fresh ideas with him.
For example, one idea I’ve had for a Zelda game would be have Ganondorf start it as a good guy and as Link’s best friend, then over the course of the game have him corrupted by his destiny as the reincarnation of evil. This could even do something I don’t think a Zelda game has done before and have a branching storyline - have Ganondorf’s fate be influenced by the player’s actions throughout the game with alternate paths where he falls to evil and becomes the main villain or is saved by Link and remains on the side of good.
Another idea I’ve had is for a game where he burns out on evil. When the game begins he’s already conquered Hyrule, but it’s been so long that people have forgotten he has and misattribute the state of Hyrule to the King having become evil and corrupt. Throughout the game Link, who comes from the borderlands where things are fairly normal travels through Hyrule towards Hyrule Castle, and as he does so the land becomes more stagnant and withered. When Link arrives at the castle he finds an old wizened Ganondorf on the throne and it’s revealed the reason Hyrule is in the state it is is because Ganondorf grew bored and tired with being victorious and the land having become empathically linked to him has also burned out vitalitywise. Fighting Link revitalises him and when Link defeats him Ganondorf thanks him and dies happy because in doing so Link has saved him from his own victory.
Lastly a third idea I’ve had involving Ganondorf would be to have a game where it’s incarnations of Ganondorf and Link are half brothers; they’re both the sons of the Gerudo King who was the previous once in a century male Gerudo with Ganondorf as the elder brother. The game would be set at a time where tensions between the Gerudo and Hyrule are high and when Link is a small kid and Ganondorf is in his early teens, Link gets captured in a Hylian raid. Cut to ten-fifteen years later and Link has been raised in Hyrule due to being half-Hylian on his mother’s side, when Ganondorf who is now King attacks Hyrule seeking vengeance for the brother he thinks is dead, with a theme of the game being how his love for his brother has been corrupted and lead to him being the latest incarnation of evil.
That’s just a few ideas I’ve had with what could be done with him, and I’m sure in Nintendo’s hands many more concepts could be done too, so overall I’m going to say, no he shouldn’t bow out of the series after BotW2. That being said, I think it would be nice if he’s not brought back every game; spread his appearances out by interspersing other villains in between. And doing so you don’t even have to lose the connection to Ganondorf/Ganon; have some of those villains be stand alone villains, but have others be acting on his behalf. And it doesn’t have to be the cliche they’ve pulled a few times where the new guy is set up to be the game’s main villain, only for Ganon(dorf) to be revealed to be behind them all along and be the real final boss. They could make it more like Zelda 2 where it’s his followers acting on their own, or even have him be the greater scope villain, but not actually appear in that game (save his actual appearance to its sequel where he takes centre stage early on), just be a nebulous power backing the main villain (whether said villain is his actual subordinate or another villain he’s manipulated to further his own plans which aren’t to be fulfilled until much later).
Damn it, you should be a writer. :D
Young Ganondorf will be the heartthrob of fandoms worldwide
@@fluffynator6222 nah, I procrastinate too much for that - if I was in charge of writing the plot for Zelda games it’d probably be like 2050 before the next one was released. 😝
Let me know if you publish any written work? If you can suspend someone's disbelief with a comment on a youtube video, I'd love to read a full-length masterpiece. ♥️
I'd love to see more of Ganon and Ganondorf. I love his appearance, backstory and his theme lol.
I think we need a break from ganon for a while we need more villains like vant and vatti
I can't wait to see Ganondorf. WW gave him this level of depth that I want to see more of. It would be great if the gerudo trapped him so he couldn't die and reincarnate because they know about the curse.
I kinda want Ghirahim back. It could be interesting. How he will see and navigate through this new world. Will he fight against Link? Would he look for a new master, or.. "forge" one for himself. He shouldn't be the main villain, but he could be an other manipulative power, that changes the dynamic between characters, swords and sites.
I could foresee someone trying to bring back Ganon or Demise somehow and ending up getting Ghirahim instead and I think that'd be fun to see. XD
@@theoaremevano3227 Oohh, this Someone will have a big problemXD. Nobody (besides Demise) can handle Ghirahim
Ghirahim is dead and Nintendo doesn't bring back Zelda villains that aren't Ganon.
@@chadpeterson5698 Gannon is also dead and he's been brought back.
@@chadpeterson5698 Yeah, but it's fun to imagin.
Funn fact: in the Dutch translations
The game refers the blights as phantoms
I want to see a new take on Ganon. I'd love for the story to show that he wasn't always what we know him as. And potentially how he succumbed to evil.
What you ask is not possible and was already explained in Skyward Sword.
Ganon is the physical manifestation of Demise's hatred. Demise is a demon god that was always evil and invaded Hyrule shortly after the golden goddesses left as he wanted the Triforce. Whats not explained is what happened to Fi & Ghirahim.
Supposedly, Fi went quiet while using all of it's energy to keep Demise trapped for all eternity though I feel like this is a cop out answer to explain why Fi is not in any other games when they didn't even think of the Master Sword as a spirit weapon at the time.
As for Ghirahim no one knows what happened to it. It was a one-off spirit sword/villain unless it was actually Ghirahim that was turned into Gannondorf rather than Demise's hatred.
Here's another though: Since the Master's Sword was badly damaged, that means potential for Demise to break free.
I have a theory:
In the Botw2 trailer when link seems to be phasing through the ground, there are sounds that are eerily similar to the warping sounds from Twilight Princess. I think that twilight will have something to do with this game.
Also love the content. Keep up the AMAZING work!
I would like to see ganondorf as a character being explored more. Imagine a zelda game where he is... a good guy. like, link's old friend. but there's an ancient curse trying to corrupt him.
That would change the formula nicely and make for a pretty dark game. I really like this idea.
@@Savage-- yeah, imagine having to kill your friend, because that's your destiny as the wielder of the master sword? quite dark indeed
This method of messing with the formula has been one of the most common fan ideas I've seen, and as much as it's used as a fanfic, I think the actual series would benefit from it. The pieces are all there. Ganon being a reincarnation could make him anybody, and he's not guaranteed to become evil right away in life.
The same way that Skyward sword was created as the beginning of the tale, I could see BotW2 being made as the "end" of the stories, the point where Delmise's curse is broken and the three main characters end their reincarnations. That being said, there is plenty of room in the timeline for even more stories, be it with Ganon/Ganondorf or other villains.
Exactly my thoughts. Especially considering the some of the similarities and symbolism botw2's latest trailer has with skyward sword.
It’ll be neat if they do delve into majora’s past or him as a boss
Yes
Honestly, I still would love to see an instance where an incarnation of Ganondorf was actually am ally to you. After all, it is Demise's curse that causes him to lust for power. Maybe we cam have a time where he slowly is taken over by the curse and you end up having to fight an old friend. Idk just a thought
I would actually still be interested in seeing Ganondorf, but a new one. A new male Gerudo that would be born and grow up, maybe struggle to understand why he feels that deep desire for power as his predecessors did, but also being constantly watched by the people because of that heavy heritage that comes with his name... How would that turn out, I love him so much as a villain he's just so epic you know haha
I love Ganon and all, and know he'll never go away (remakes, anyone?) But I want more 3d games to use other villains. It's like Eggman and Bowser... I'd rather every OTHER game be them and give new villains a chance to exist. And not like Eggman controlling a different God thing, more like a new Zant and Vaati.
Why not instead rotate them all, bowser can fight sonic, Eggman can fight link and Gannon can fight mario lol
Yes, yeees!
I only want him gone just so he can return in a scene like this:
**Ganondorf's theme cue**
New villain: This kingdom isn't big enough for two supervillains!
Ganondorf: Oh, you're a villain, alright. Just not a super one.
NV: What's the difference?
G: Presentation!
**Gerudo approach from the horizon on horseback while black clouds fill the sky and Ganondorf transforms into Ganon**
Or at least have it go like this
New villain: you dare stand against me King of Evil.
Ganondorf: I may be the King of Evil but you are just vile.
New Villain: are you justifying yourself
Ganondorf: no.
New villain: then why are you opposing me.
Ganondorf: because this world isn't big enough for the both of us. On this day 1 of us is going to leave this plane of existence, forever.
I can easily picture a "hold my beer" moment.
You know, it would kind of be interesting to have a character named ganondorf in a Zelda game but have him not be the incarnation of evil for once. I think it would challenge the players expectations, and I’d embrace it
In Majoras Mask Ganondorf was intended to be the proprietor of one of the fishing holes
I would like to see an official origin story of Ganondorf. How he grew up in Gerudo, how he matured, what shaped him and how he came up with the plan to steal the triforce
"Should Ganon return after BotW 2?"
That depends on where in the timeline the next games end up and what the stories will be about.
"Should the Zelda series retire Ganon as the series main antagonist?"
That's rather ridiculous considering how iconic Ganon(dorf) is. Not to mention that he's the physical embodiment of Demise's curse that was meant to forever haunt the blood of the goddess (Zelda/Hylia) and the Spirit of the Hero (Link)
For Ganon(dorf) to no longer be the big bad from here on, the games would have to retire Zelda and Link as well and thus remove chief cores of what makes a Zelda game into a Zelda game.
I mean, you already answered that later in the video, but still.
@@DarshanBhambhani Nah.
I dunno if saying removing Ganon would be like removing Zelda and Link. Ganon and even Zelda herself aren't present in some games, and those work perfectly fine as they are.
In my opinion, he's overused as villain. Though I would like to see a game in which Ganondorf's human motifs come to play (as hinted in Wind Waker), maybe even to the extent he becomes "good" and eventually Link's ally. Not Ganon as such is what bugs me, but the way his character is portrayed all the time. This could need a refreshment
Or you know we could actually END DEMISES curse. Not ending it is like saying Evil is as strong if not stronger than good.
@@elli_senfsaat I wouldn't mind an online multiplayer where we could pick a species, establish a colony or something, make allies, wage mundane wars, etc. Like the board game Risk.
@@KitCloud1 It is, especially in Zelda. Evil (Demise/Ganon(dorf)) is literally the embodiment of Power. It takes both Courage and Wisdom combined to eventually defeat it. Even in the real world, bad people are everywhere. Evil is everywhere. Criminals, bystanders, politicians, barbarians, and much much more are everywhere, and they’re all contributing to or doing evil things. It takes many, many good people making a combined effort to beat these things back even for a short time.
8:10 you say he “obtained” the Triforce of Power. This IS the OoT Gannondorf, keep in mind. When Link is sent back, he is in the Sword chamber before his journey really starts. The way I saw it, there was only one way Link could prove who he was to the royal family (except, ya know… Zelda’s Lullabye). Since he was the Link who pulled the sword, I always assumed the triforce split when he went back in time, and Link summoned the Triforce of Courage to convince the King that he was telling the truth. And if Link had the Triforce of Courage, then Gannondorf and Zelda would also have THEIR Triforce pieces. They just didn’t know this right away. So when Gannondorf died, he was just manifesting the Triforce piece he already had thanks to Future Link and Future Zelda. Which explains why Zelda (TP) would also already have it. She inherited the Triforce, just like she inherited her role in the legend from Zelda (OoT).
It just made sense to me. They already had their Triforce pieces, Link and Zelda (TP) just inherited theirs through blood. I mean, you see Link’s Triforce piece manifest for the first time when he turns into a wolf. When Gannondorf failed to die, he also started to look more beastly!!! Both manifested their Triforce pieces in similar ways! And for all we know, Zelda didn’t know she had HER Triforce until the Twilight fell over Hyrule.
Sorry for the tangent. It just makes sense to me.
I like it. My new favorite way to think about this.
At the end of OoT when Link goes to meet Zelda after she sends him back in time, his Triforce piece is on his hand. Well, its crest anyways, but that's only there because he's got it.
@@JariDawnchild Thank you for providing in-game proof! I never noticed that before!
(I’m just gonna put this explanation here.)
When Link was sent back in time he still had the Triforce of Courage from the “future” and since only one can exist at a time it overwritten the one from the past thus breaking apart the Triforce and the other two pieces going to their “destined” holders/carriers that represented the piece the most.
That’s how Ganondorf suddenly got the Triforce of Power by some “Divine Prank”.
If Link left it behind with Zelda before being sent back in time Ganondorf from TP would never have gotten his piece. (Nor Zelda.)
Another “mess up” by OoT Zelda thinking she knows what she’s doing, woman should’ve asked for both the Ocarina of Time and the Triforce piece before sending Link back to a past before the Triforce was split. 🤦🏻♀️
(Although Link having the Triforce of Courage is likely why/how he was able to convince Zelda and the King of Ganondorf’s plan and eventual betrayal.)
I would definitely love to see some new villains come in and of course some old ones make a return, but Ganon/Ganondorf should always be there, in the background, occasionally popping up to be the big bad guy
The problem with Ganon being removed entirely is you'd have to uproot Link and Zelda as well, and at that point you're no longer under the Legend of Zelda name since you removed the core trio of characters that represented the Triforce. If you remove one of them, the other two look awkward alone. Yes, Vaati and Zant, Onyx and Veran, were villains that rail against you, but all threads of those villains end back up at Ganon(dorf). If you wanted to focus on a new villain entirely Nintendo may want to look at expanding on the world around Hyrule, but it wouldn't hold nearly the same weight I feel due to the decades of building up Link, Zelda, and Ganon, cursed to befall an endless fate for all eternity.
Majora's Mask would like to speak to you.
Also wasn't there a dream island where the same rules apply?
I would love to see Ganon and Ganondorf evolving into their own separate entities.
Or maybe separating Ganondorf from Demise
Ganon is a representation of Demise's hatred, so he's integral to the series just as much as Link and the triforce are. I can agree with having different antagonists every now and then (so long as they link back to Demise) but Ganon should always return at times
your voice is very calming and smooth. love your videos and the choice of music in them!
Why in the world would Nintendo decide to permanently retire the best villain from one of their most popular franchises? That would be nonsensical.
It’s not like the Breath of the Wild story would dictate that. That’s only a game or 2 within the franchise. If anything, it just closes out the story for Breath of the Wild. And then when they make a new Zelda game with a new story, it only has to be influenced by the story of BotW as much as the devs want it to. They can make any new story they want, with any villain they want….including Ganon.
One amazing concept would be of Ganondorf beign a good person, trying his hole life to avoid his curse, and ultimately failing to do so.
Honestly, I'm ready for a change. There was a fan story called "Valley of the Flood" made, like, 15 years ago, and it was such a cool setup. It took place during the flooding of Hyrule pre-WW, and the "hero" was a delusional "Link" who thought he was meant to save the world, in place of the Gods, whom were absent, and the whole thing was basically him setting himself up to be the villain.
Yeah honestly and there has been like what 2 Ganons? (FSA and all the other games) and vaati and malladus. Demise’s curse seems less impactful if it only has like 3 incarnations so I think while he shouldn’t be forgotten entirely he should definitely be on hiatus for like 2 games atleast after this one to create room for other incarnations of demise cus him coming back at this point is just kinda tired as an idea, we’ve had sequels to oot where he dies in every one yet he’s resurrected in the fallen hero timeline and another beast ganon comes about in the child timeline
I'd love to read this story. Do you have the link to it?
@@HarfelJ You could try Googling around and finding it, but you'll most likely just come across people talking about it, and not the actual story. It's probably buried deep in the IGN forums back in the early '10s.
I remember seeing that floating around on Zelda Universe after Twilight Princess was released. It was touted as a rumor/"leak" of the plot of the next Zelda game (with Eiji Aonuma behind the idea), before being debunked. However, if I recall correctly, Link wasn't setting himself up to be the villain, but was simply helpless to stop the flood. Maybe I'll have to give it a re-read with older eyes.
Ganondorf redemption story arc makes the most sense with the "ancient hero" concept that already looks nothing like Link, and it's the most interesting/satisfying end-of-timeline plot reveal. Nintendo should roll with it. Ganon separates from Ganondorf and Ganon/Curse of Demise is finally defeated.
This was a great video Zeltik!!!
I think now that we've seen him defeated more and more the threat drops MASSIVELY. The reveal that "he's still here and we didn't know" MAKES IT scary. But it all depends on WHICH timeline BOTW is on(if any was REALLY chosen)
hm ruben from my gathering none were really chosen but..you gotta think about something...breath of the wild has some ruins are in the game like the top of the old guerudo coliseum where his execution took place and other places that some lay in ruins and the fact there is what looks like a "mirror of twilight" in 1 other place near a shrine part of me feels that ganon will never...ever...die as the triforce of power binds his soul to the living
BOTW is all three timelines, they all lead to the same thing
Nintendo made the timeline convergence canon.
Ganon should probably always return in some form. There needs to be balance in the triforce. It would be cool to see them experiment with an unbalanced triforce though. A more grey area type of link where good and evil are not a binary
I’d like to see Malice pull a gambit and possess the reincarnation of Link, forcing Ganondorf into a hero role (for selfish purposes).
Or we can just see a new incarnation of Demise come about. So far we’ve had Vatii.. and Ganondorf. Would be nice to see new ones
@@Agent-Ig I'm pretty sure demise's true name is Ganon.
In Japanese his name is "the bringer of Demise" which means they don't actually reveal his name.
I’d argue that ever since OoT there hasn’t been “balance.” Just retaliation and “history written by the victors” with one side holding 2/3rds (but Zelda forever sidelined in favor of a grudge match between Power and Courage-let Zelda have an active role in her own franchise!!!).
Aaaand Hylians win, wipe out the gerudo (again) and subjugate everyone else (again). Then “suddenly, Ganon returns” and all of Hyrule’s Outcasts rally against Not Hyrule…only for Le Hero to show up and put things back to the status quo
Rince, repeat.
-Ganondorf, the Gerudo, Sheikah, and Monsters all deserve far better-
Ugh. No thank you. That in itself would break the series. Gray is only interesting for a short time period and only in the presence of either white or black characters to contrast with the gray character. Very quickly it becomes obvious that a gray character can do anything and that in itself quickly becomes boring. Great characters need constraints. That's why white and black characters are necessary for the longterm success of a series. When the hero ceases to act like a hero then the series is over. See Star Wars for too many examples.
Amazing job Zeltik! Exactly how I look at it
It would be cool to find out that many of the enemies from other games(Spirit Tracks) were actually once apart of the army of Demise.
Or other expressions of his curse.
I think there's still a lot of potential for Ganon to evolve as a character. My favourite Ganon was from Wind Waker when you learn why he attacked Hyrule in the first place. I'm hoping we get more depth in BOTW2!
Right. WW Ganondorf was such a pleasant and bone-chilling surprise lol.
I'd love to see new villains. Maybe expand the heroes role to fighting all forms of malice, whether they be the main form or perhaps other iterations that have spawned due to the existence of malice
Love all of your content man. really makes my day! :)
Tbh, as awesome as it would be to "finally" defeat Ganon, he's now such a big part of the franchise that Nintendo would never allow that to happen.
Yes their are always more ways to bring him back. Time travel off the top of my head.
If he doesn’t the internet will throw a fit
@@jeffcarroll1990shock I mean. He does get other enemies. But it simply doesn't seem to work without The Demon King.
@@Seven-9090 You think the internet would explode if there's no time travel?
@cloudy night I agree
I have grown up with Zelda games, and yes, it does help having different villains show up from time to time, if the story fits a non Ganon villain. However, getting rid of Ganon for good, or any of the main three just for the sake of something new, not really. I would prefer the series to close at that point versus going on such a tangent. But that could just be me.
Professional-quality video, well done!
1:53
That transition right there sounds like a narrator revealing the villain.
Epic.
I'd like to see the trio transcend upward, and have a game featuring Demise, Hylia and the Hero (Fierce Deity maybe?). On a scale that dwarfs Hyrule itself is set on the entire world/universe. Get the goddesses involved as well.
I would love to see a Gannondorf who is the leader of an army, rising up against Hyrule, manipulating others around him and corrupting the minds of the people. There are lots of ways to take Big G that would keep it fresh & interesting
And not corrupting with malice or anything like that, either. Genuinely convincing people.
Looked at the title and the video date and thought "Damn Zeltik has some major insider info to know the name of BOTW2 10 months ago!" lol threw me through a loop there buddy
The effort that goes into your videos does not go unnoticed
I feel the way they've done it before with Ganon being revealed to be pulling the strings in the last act is a winner. I think after botw 2 we should take a detour to termina once again and flesh out some more lore (Stone temple looking at you and your triforce licking blocks)
I forgot about those blocks lol.
Yes Ganon should return, either as a villain himself, the power behind the villain or the inspiration for the villain. His influence, and through him, Demise, should always be there
Such a good video
Keep it up :)
As much as I love Ganondorf as a character (literally my favorite character), I don't hate the idea of a completely new evil. We could see a villain who'd be far more expressive, maybe someone who treads the line between genius and insane like Ghirahim, an absolutely vicious parasite like Bellum, or something else entirely.
I do agree the series would definitely at least take time to feel whole without someone as iconic to the series as Ganon around, but I like the open canvas of a new main antagonist.
If they keep him, they could reasonably take him in one of those directions since his previous reasons for stirring the shit pot in the first place (apart from the curse urging him to pick a fight over more peaceful means) would now rather drown him in it.
I think it would be best if they just give him a break every now and then, that way it can keep us at the edge of our seats and also make his appearances have more impact but to never take him out for good.
I think we can all agree Ganon's badass--I don't want to see him leave
Exactly he's so fun loving and awesome I want to at least see him good again before Demise took him
Hearing the astute spoken Zeltik refer to Ganon as "the big G" is something I didn't know I needed until now
Ganon/dorf has so many facades, I don´t think that his potential is fully used at this point. I´d like to see some more and some different villains for sure, but Ganon/dorf leaving the series is unlikely and I won´t appreciate it.
Right? We've only seen small hints at what Ganondorf is truly capable of. I'd like to see one where we see the entire build-up from "peaceful golden age" to "cosmic shitstorm", rather than just starting the game right before "cosmic shitstorm". Not only with slowly increasing number of monsters, but also increasing political tension. I want to see blissfully happy citizens slowly turn fearful with some irritation and bickering brought on by an unstable political climate. Throw some wartime stressors in there with rising prices and resource shortages...
It’s always a great day when zeltik posts
Honestly other villains never feel like enough of a threat to me. You just can't replace Ganon/Ganondorf
What a video great job👍🏽
I think, with how integral reincarnation/resurrection is to this series, it wouldn't be right to only bring back 2/3 of the main thru-line characters after this, don't you?
I'm still waiting for Majora to make a comeback. Would be interesting to see both Majora and Ganondorf in the same game as two villains. One seeks domination and the other seeks destruction. Maybe you team up with one to take out the other?
You mean Link teams up with Gannon to take out Majora
akin to how Mario teamed up with Bowser to take out Smithy's army
In my opinion, every good story needs an ending and I personally would love to see the permanent end of Ganon’s story, seeing as how his story has dragged on for so many years. I want the Zelda series to continue moving forward with new lands and new villains, but would still love to see Ganon again in any new games set before BotW!
I'm probably alone on this one, but I'd LOVE to see a Ganon/Ganondorf that is so defeated, so demoralized, so sick of the same outcome that he tries to change the course of his own fate. I'd like to see him try endlessly or succeed to break away from the curse set by his ancestor to try and start over or become a new man. That said, the actions he took as well as how people remember him would never leave him, and lead him to ask himself if he's even making the best decision for his future. Again--probably alone on this one, but it's an idea that I'd love to see explored moreover.
I honestly really love the interpretation that the goddesses really watched them execute Ganondorf and went, "hey y'know what would really fuck with them..." and they blessed him with Power.
Oh hey there's a fanfic idea...
Mwahahahaa! If you write it, post a link? Sounds like it'd be fun to read lol.