Chinook Is At Three - Doctor Who || Elder Dragon Social Club
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- It’s TIME for a wibbly-wobbly episode of EDSC as Doctor Who brings us the most complicated precons we’ve ever played!
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Ok the dice poof animation is lowkey one of my favorite things LRR has ever done
It's subtle, but nice.
The Foley on it is great, also
The bass on that roll! So good!
At 1:28:10 or so they do it for when Wheeler gives Ben the planar die as if it's a regular d6 too, it is very funny 😂
Graham's at a clear disadvantage because he's gonna want to play the cool flavor things.
But he can also talk about each card so extensively that people forget what they were doing. Not unlike old whats-his-name.
Somehow, Ben being a SuperWhoLock sorta person (and Kathleen being interested in learning more) was not surprising
Kathleen is Who-Curious.
I am fascinated to hear more. 😂🎉
Ben giggling at "Bad Wolf" too
God, I love the tentativeness with which Graham explains these things. “There’s, uh. There’s an *invisible ghost mummy*?”
He's respecting spoilers for Wheeler. Like a gentleman.
@@gregorycafiero9688 Also understanding many details in explanations require even further explanation.
Graham the best hehe
If you're getting tentative at "invisible ghost Mummy", there's WAY worse you gotta brace yourself to get into
@@devinkerr5474”if you can’t handle me at my ‘invisible ghost mummy’ you don’t deserve me at my ‘etc. and so forth’”
46:25 Graham learns how [[The War Doctor]] works.
47:49 Graham casts [[Swords to Plowshares]] on the War Doctor.
Swords to Plowshares flavour text: "So that's what it means to be a Doctor of War."
It’s even better when ya realize they had the first doctor on the bord
Graham's confusion contrasts wonderfully with Kathleen's wicked delight as Ben explains that his main exposure to Who is via SuperWhoLock.
Martha was a fantastic character absolutely ruined by the fact that she had all these brilliant character traits and then each plot point with her was "the doctor doesn't love me, I'm not rose". The writing did her so dirty. Oh yeah also absolutely adored this episode been really looking forward to it!
The best thing to happen to her in the show was the doctor leaving her alive in her own time zone.
"I had these tokens in order but then I got distracted by a horse" is a great sentence by itself, but it's even better when you realise what horse Wheeler almost definitely means.
11:08 To be fair, I think if you asked most people to fill in the blank of “She topped all of the _____ that I found on the internet”, I don’t think the go-to would be “best companion lists”, especially in the context of Ms. Bad Wolf Who’s Got the Juice…
Fun game. But I have to agree with the final conclusion, these are complicated decks and I kinda worry about the Dr Who fan that this is their first exposure to playing MTG. I really like both Paradox Power and Timey-Wimey, but they are precons that make me work hard to pilot them.
Well, when you start messing with time and space things should get a bit complicated, so is lore friendly.
This was so much fun! But also, these decks are now on the Wheel of Precons, and I really hope one of them gets hit there sometime! (Or maybe a Universes Beyond special episode with Doctor Who, Warhammer 40000, Lord of the Rings, and something else. That'd be silly fun!)
UB precon mix sounds interesting
Probably once Fallout is out. (or are the Final Fantasy products full sets or Commander, I forget?)@@ashdog9235
My favorite is "Heaven Sent" with 12. Capaldi pretty much monologues for 40 minutes and it's utterly captivating.
Huge agree. One of my all time favorite episodes. Hits me every time.
Also, "The Shepherd's Boy" is maybe the best piece of music Murray Gold's ever written for the show. So good it kind of replaced Twelve's original leitmotif.
@gaz-l621 yeah that music is so beautiful. Niagara Falls every time.
not just the best doctor who episode, one of the best episodes of television period.
Probably worth casting the X spells you hit with the diary just to get them out from under the diary so you don't hit them again.
/I/ caught your "meeting in reverse" line, Graham. It was funny
Thank you 😄
Spoilers!
my favorite doctor who episode is this episode of elder dragon social club
(these decks are awesome and are legit the first commander decks in years that really excited me)
My favorite episode of Doctor Who is 'The Mind Robber', an absolutely wild Second Doctor story that features a 'Land of Fiction', a filler episode mostly taking place in a white void, Rapunzel, a fake comic book hero named 'The Karkus', and an entire sequence rearranging Jamie's face so they could recast him for 2 episodes while the actor had the flu.
The second Doctor era is defiantly in contention for my favorite eras of the show - episodes like Mind Robber, The War Games and Enemy of the World are amazing. It's a shame that the 60s episodes have such a high barrier of entry (I don't mind the reconstructed and animated episodes but they're not for everyone)
Agreed. I was most disappointed there was not a Zoe in her catsuit card.
@42:00 It's actually for each exiled card, since each card is exiled one at a time. Gavin Verhey explicitly confirmed this on Shuffle Up and Play, and he designed the card.
As he proceeded to blast another member of the design team outside of space and time.
Wheeler brings this up at 46:00, it's just that his initial exile trigger at 42:00 immediately hit without having to drill.
Okay but what's your favorite doctor who episode
@@heartofgoldfish The Day of the Doctor, probably -- the 50th anniversary special.
@@heartofgoldfish The Empty Child?
Hey you missed that one thing at that one time. On the left.
Darn!
This decks are so fun! Seeing Wheeler come around on both DW and Universes Beyond in like a couple of months was something I didn't see coming but I'm always glad when people find something new to enjoy. That is probably the best outcome these products can have. Plus, they are designed with so much heart and attention to detail. I have never been more happy about some random land art where I can point and say: This is from Kinda and be ureasonably happy about it. My favorite episode is probably Heaven Sent from NuWho and from Classic Who its Curse of Fenric cause Seven is my Doctor :)
1:10:57 [me, totally not waiting to see if the dairy’s restrictions would get remembered before it was relevant] My favorite episode is the one with Van Gogh because it’s 1 of 2 episodes that I remember my college roommate watched 12 years. The other one had cybermen, but the people inside were crying, so it makes me sad.
Wouldn't dream about commenting on missed triggers, I played the suspend deck in person and my brain melted
My compliments to whoever decided to play a vine boom sound whenever someone fumbled the planar die roll
1:26:20 Having just watched the VOD for the last Game Knights Live, I get that reference :D Kathleen was very brave about all the maths in that turn
Seeing Graham with a proper coiffed head of hair pleases me so, so much.
Graham resisting the urge to explain the Chameleon Arch was delightful.
I love how Ulmer and Graham had the same elation when Wheeler revealed the Adipose BUT FOR COMPLETELY DIFFERENT REASONS.
15:34 I can give a quicker explanation to the symbols on the ring. It’s the time lord font/written language.
Wheeler has become such an important part of LRR (for me). All of the energy he just brings to all of the LRR stuff is so amazing.
The only way you could make this better would be to have the Professor as a party member as he is also a major doctor who fan. This combo of people however shine like the surface of the planet Midnight
The war doctor actually does count every single card you exile for cascade, because the game will check each card you hit because you "exile until" so you flip them one at a time
Edit: i made this comment right after wheeler said that it wouldnt count multiple times to ben.
Then immediately after that he used the correct ruling, my bad for not watching the video before leaving a comment
Came here to see who else paused and had this exact impulse : P Laelia has been War Doctoring for a few years now apparently.
So happy this video is out. The weather sucks today and this is just what the Doctor ordered.
at time code 39:58 and yes there is a 'Fantastic Journey' episode titled 'Into the Dalek' in the Capaldi era. there's Dalek anti-bodies, a stomach juice scene and cool visauls as they enter through the eye stalk.
Also, Peter Capaldi says; "Don't be lasagna."
Miss Frizzle is also definitely a Time Lord. Probably one Romana looked down her nose at before she loosened up by travelling with the Doctor.
There's also sort of a Fantastic Journey in the classic era, in The Invisible Enemy the 4th Doctor and leela get infected by an alien parasite so they are cloned and the miniature clones are injected into the doctor in order to fight the parasite
I was interested to see that this was a two hour long video, and then I realized that it's commander planchase. That makes so much more sense now.😅
I think I got a scarf from the exact same place Graham got that one. There's a Lady on the Island who knits verry long scarves. They're unbelievably warm.
1:21:57 “Oh I wouldn’t” is the most threatening thing anyone has ever said on this channel
Kathleen playing the villain deck is very fitting.
Wow, Ben and Kathleen are voicing *all* my intrusive thoughts today!
As a Wisconsinite I appreciate the attention, but would like to point out that tator tot hot dish is more of a Minnesota thing. Pickles on grilled cheese does slap though.
You all did a fantastic job playing and you should be very proud.
These precons are very cool!
I know next to nothing about Dr.Who, but I loved the way these decks interacted! Definitely a cool use of mechanics new and old.
The phrase for today is “X happened, don’t worry about it”-Graham
Love my Dr.Who decks. We’ve played them 5 times in the 2 days since picking them up.
Love supporting Canadian content.
....and that wierd courtroom on Gallefrey.......Thanks for proving you are a fan of Dr.Who
I love Torchwood and Class and its bit of a shame there was no rep for them, though i get that they both weren't well received. Also favourite ep is Turn Left
I have sparely watched Doctor Who and Torchwood but loved Class. I was heartbroken it did not receive a second season.
"I will blame it all on Missy..."
I mean, Doctors do hate her! *rimshot*
As a person from Wisconsin...
Hotdish is a Minnesota thing.
It was such a pleasure to watch y'all pilot these complex decks!
Kathleen's history with Tom Baker falling into quarries sounds a lot like my sister's history with clowns on Sesame Street. My sister does still have coulrophobia.
And yeah, there are a _lot_ of moving parts in these decks...
With that leather jacket, Kathleen clearly dressed up as Ace
Clearly k-9 was a Tyrannosaurus/Rex.
Also, at about 1:30, my favourite classic story might be Remembrance of the daleks, new who Christmas invasion would be right up there.
Given it's Dr Who, should have named "Spells you've cast from anywhere other than your hand this turn" ONCOMING Storm
Waited SO long to find out what 'Chinook is at 3' means, and it was absolutely worth it. Epic game, a joy to watch.
The scarf stays on during commander.
Instead of any rules comments, my favorite Dr Who episode is Heaven Sent. It's one of the only Capaldi episodes I've seen but its just great and I love his speech at the end.
All the misplay, out of order, cheatstep, etc to me is on flavor for doctor who. no one knows whats happening and its probably in the wrong order!
My favorite episode is The Zygon Inversion! It made Capaldi my favorite Doctor and that's why I root for whomever is playing Paradox Power in a 4 pre-con pod
I think that Graham is 100% wrong, you should absolutely go back and watch the original series from the beginning. The episodes with the first doctor are definitely very low key and not as hyper as the more modern series but they are incredibly charming.
Also, in my opinion, all the best episodes of Dr Who are from before the reboot so you are doing yourself a huge disservice by starting after it unless you plan to watch it out of order and do the new ones and then going back.
Very funny that Ben asks if it's "magic school bus for adults", no it's just magic school bus, adult nerds may like it but Doctor Who has always been a show for kids!
1:19:47 Time is not a creature type, nor is lord. The creature type is "time lord" and is the only 2 word creature type!
I was gonna say something about how they missed a thing, this thing should have happened and something else should have died when this happened, good on Wheeler for being a mind reader.
I also did not expect Wheeler's sentence about Rose topping things to end the way it did.
Instead of wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff, we now have wibbly wobbly are you going to pay smothering tithey stuff?
I love this series, and the show itself is so good that I always forget how much of a BANGER the title music is!
It's a genre called Electroswing; I'd recommend virtually anything by Caravan Palace or Parov Stelar for similar tracks.
Do you mean the music of Doctor Who or of EDSC?
I love that the instant they reach the Crash of the Byzantium, River Song and Her Diary show up.
Ben you should still check out the classic Who series. My advice is treat it like watching a play that just has slightly better special effects
seeing vrestin menoptra leader, was such a cool moment for me as Ive just watched that classic hartnell epsiode yesterday
So about an hour in you guys missed that// MY FAVOURITE EPISODE IS BLINK WHEELER
"[Watching Doctor Who] has destroyed my productivity!" - Ben Wheeler describing the latter half of my college experience
I can't call out any incorrect game actions because I can't follow what in the five hells is going on half the time :D
Insonwant a episode of ttc of graham explaining all the dr who lore on magic cards and tokens now
I'm from Wisconsin, and that sandwich looks vile.
My favorite single episode is probably Blink, but my favorite story is the 2-part Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead
"It would take too long too explain." Doctor Who in a dalek shell everybody
Immediate rewatch on this one. Absolutely flawless episode.
My favorite doctor who episode is the husbands of river song and seeing how good she is here loved this match
I think it’s interesting that all the universes beyond commander decks are based on British ips. 40k, LotR and now dr who.
I think we need a Doctor Beej crapshot now. (Or maybe a TTSF where he empties out all his pockets?)
The Elder Dragon Social Club, the 699th wonder of the universe. (as lots of other things are)
"Sarah Jane is back in the TARDIS again" sounds like a song name.
The *Don't worry about it checks out to try and explain the current regeneration situation.
Magic flavour can only go so far when Wilfred Mott would win in a fight with a grizzly bear.
I really like the subtle effect the planar die in this episode! 🧙♂️
Many people may consider older Dr. Who episodes slow. But I've watched a bit of the first doctor, which includes some of my favorite episodes, including a few episodes about a Legend of Zelda type storyline (about 20 years earlier) and an episode where the team is tiny and stops a corporation from killing all the world's bees with insecticide (for profit of course)
Well written episodes in my opinion with plots way ahead of it's time!
What? I was trying to complain about everyone missing triggers, what happened here?
Honestly just started Doctor Who lol so no comment
I'm only 20 seconds in and I already love that this episode exists and that G has a 4th doctor scearf for it
So I watched the Tolarian Community College WHO deck video and at 41:50 I think it would get a counter for *each* card exiled with Cascade? Not sure I may be misremembering, it's really confusing wording and effect.
It was Gavin who confirmed it would as each is it's own insistance as it checks each time
Yeah, "exile until x" means you exile one, check if X has been met, if not then repeat
We do catch that, later on
It's not that complex, or weirdly worded. It says "one or more". Even if Cascade exiles a bunch of cards, that's still instance of "one or more" cards being exiled. Compare it to Enduring Scalelord and Bioessence Hydra and how they get counters, as the Hydra specifically says "that many counters" while the Scalelord only gets 1 counter even if you give another creature a bunch at once. The "one or more" wording also shows up for a lot of "when one or more creatures die" effects so that you only do something once even if a bunch of creatures die to a wipe.
For extra clarity, the Comprehensive Rules specifically state that effects that involve drawing multiple cards have the player do that many "individual card draws". It's a rule specific to drawing cards that people occasionally in error apply to other game actions.
Man, I actually thought the 12-13 deck felt a bit weaker than the rest, but uh, not anymore!
I had the same! But I played against it with the Tenth/Rose deck and got OBLITERATED :)
Woo! engagement! Magic! Friday!
God I love these decks so much
This was so much fun to watch. These decks seems really good, flavor and gameplay wise !
My favorite Doctor Who episode/story is the Pyramid of Mars from the 4th Doctor era. :)
Has anyone said why Chinook? What's in Chinook that makes it...fit for that?
It’s “a warm dry wind that descends the eastern slopes of the Rocky Mountains” so, not a storm, but a weather system.
Favorite episode is definitely the two parter The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances. "Everybody lives!" is such a hopeful, exuberant moment.
Surely the discussion about the doctors sharing commander damage wouldn't actually have occurred because "it's about game objects" and not a vorthos thing
However i would like to see a commander game where any legendary creatures (Olivia Voldaren, for example) share commander damage
Did not expect a blists hill reference pure uncut grade a nostalgia , living in Shropshire I must’ve been like 5 times on school trips and whatnot. Of course my main memory is that they always had a shire horse hanging about when I visited, those horses are so large.
It is interesting how much Doctor Who and DBZ have in common
Like how most major plot moments / confrontations, take place in a giant empty rock quarries
Another great episode. I nominate "Quantum Storm" as the non-Canadian Chinook count.
There's already a great name in this episode. Ben plays a card that has a keyword based on the number of cards you've played not from your hand: Paradox. 'Paradox count is at one' is a satisfying thing to say.
For Ben: the "shrink and go inside the Doctor to fight a disease" serial is Invisible Enemy. IIRC, Leela and TOMBAKER!Doctor make clones of themselves which are shrunk and injected into the Doctor. Bonus points for the Doctor going inside himself.
You'll miss this though, if you take Graham's suggestion and start with 9, as this is 4th Doctor stuff. Just saying, start with Tom Baker and then watch Sylvester McCoy (he had the original "kill sad people and everyone will be happy" story) and then think about modern!Who (totally personal opinion etc. etc.). Extra points for Baker, as part of his run was script edited by Douglas "Hitchhikers" Adams. One season is just Tom Baker's Holistic Detective Agency.
Welp, I don't know how many great times I had watching this, but yeah cool stuff =)
My favourite Doctor Who: Peter Capaldi
My favourite Doctor in MTG: David Tennant/John Hurt
My favourite Doctor Who episode: Not sure, I like the Husbands of River Song, but also Demon's Run... I think it'll have to be the Day of the Doctor however.
Kathleen's excellent paperclip comment. 27:22
I was hoping someone else noticed it! (timestamp seems off?)