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Mesa/Boogie JP-2C Mark IIC+ Amplifier Review by Sweetwater
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- Опубликовано: 15 мар 2016
- Mitch Gallagher and Don Carr present the John Petrucci signature JP-2C Mark IIC+ tube amplifier. It delivers all of the tonal variety and power of a Mark IIC+ with powerful additions specified by John. It's a celebration of John and Mesa's 30-year relationship and is based on one of Mesa's fan-favorites. And the JP-2C features additions like dual footswitchable 5-band EQs and a CabClone output, making it an even more powerful animal.
Get the JP-2C Mark IIC+ amp head here: www.sweetwater.com/store/detai...
Sweetwater’s Guitars and Gear, Vol. 163
I swear every old guy with a Gibson tries to make every amp sound like a Marshall amp.
Absolutely true, that's not the point of the amp. If you want a Marshall tone get a Marshall amp. Maybe they're trying to show how versatile the amp is but they are not touching the hi-gains and liquid leads.
Seriously! Ok here's an amp that's perfect for Jazz, Metal, Blues, so obviously i'll play that same generic EAD classic rock chords i play in every video!
i kept randomly clicking in different spots in the video and all i heard was two old men talking.
Medium Talented It seems like almost every Mark series video on RUclips is just 15 minutes of Metallica riffs.
I played through one of these at Gear Fest using a Strat. I swear it almost made me sound like a good guitarist.
Lol
Man I love when amp reviewers set the controls to noon on a Mark series amp, the worst place for them, then they literally don't turn a single knob over the course of an entire 16-minute review and instead spend that time telling us about the amp's feature list that we could've read in bullet point format in about 30 seconds.
This dude made a legendary american amp sound like british mud.
I’d like to see a demo of this done by Sweetwater with the settings not at noon.
Well, there goes my budget for the year. This is the ultimate amp for the sounds I chase. Great demo!!!
Just got mine today. Blows away my Mark V. It's not even close. Very happy with it.
I bough a Mark V from Sweetwater April 2020, it is hands down the baddest amp I've ever used. Channel 3 gives a Strat balls that I never knew it had. Boogie heads that I've heard never need "Boost" pedals like a marshall requires. Headroom, Boogie wrote the book. Reverb is outstanding
I'm so glad Boogie is a USA built product. My saying is "If it doesn't say made in USA, I don't play" My entire guitar rig is USA BUILD. PRS ARTIST CUSTOM 22, GIBBY Les Paul Standard 2000, a 1992 G&L Legacy, 50th anniversary Strat, Case Ave. Ibanez, Ovation Elite, 85' Flying V and a P-90 Les Paul. Ps. I can't play worth a damn. Basically I suck. What an expensive hobby😆
Probably the only way they can sell the CabClone....
+Chrismayo1981 Nope. Still sounds like a Cab Clone...
HAHA- yep.
+Chrismayo1981 REDBOX!!! yeaaaaahhhhh
haha
+Chrismayo1981 No comments were said about it lol sorry MESA
I just got mine. I am so glad mine sounds nothing like this one. I was worried but this must be just a really lame demo. After I dialed mine in it flat out killed it. Smoking lead tone. If I was Mesa I would demand these guys to redo this demo. Awful...
honestly, ryan bruce's demo does this amp justice, i always feel like sweetwater fucks up their demos.
So true
Yeah they have no idea what they're doing with the amp here. You *have* to understand the way the pre-gain tonestack and the post-gain GEQ work on a Mark series to get a good sound out of it.
Great review 🌞💥🤙🏻
Man this thing really sounds great. No wonder I use the IIC+ setting on Ch. 3 of my Mark V ;)
It's so quiet, not much background noise. Very nice.
Great demo lads, but you'd never set up a Mark with everything on noon...
I have an original that I bought new and, like Don Carr, I had to wait from late Fall of '83 to Spring of '84 to get it. I still love it, but I would love to get one of these too. Three independent channels alone would be a huge upgrade, plus all the other neat stuff. :-)
Dream amp. I can't say I'm in love with the cab sim, but who cares, this beast has everything I would ever need. Wow!
7 long years and I still prefer this over the Mark V and the brand new Mark VII. I'm excited to finally get my hands on one as a DT/JP fan and aspiring multi-genre player. The clean channel may not breakup but you can certainly get softer tones and even edge-of-breakup on the other two channels with the gain really low.
This amp is my dream!!
Look at the Friedman amp line too, before buying from Mesa. In my opinion, their amp's tones, and the tonal features on their amps blow away everybody. Happy amp hunting.
This is the first demo of this amp that actually sounded good to me.
I loved this amp when I tried one at Sweetwater! Very nice, it was just too much for me. I ended up getting a barely used Nomad100. I use a noise gate, Empress EQ in the fx loop. I also, added the Two Notes Torpedo Captor 8 with it. The EQ tames the mid-range which I felt overall was a bit too much. I am glad I found the Nomad 100. Someday, I might still get the JP2C. The Para EQ I think makes my Nomad seem more like the JP2C
I'll be glad when my order for my JP2C finally gets filled from Sweetwater.
@Catherine Halsey I absolutely love it. It is so musical and expressive. Really cuts on stage, sounds good in in ears...I am very happy with it. I also picked up a Mark V 25 for a good price before my JP2C came in...it is nice as well!
BEAST!
Can this thing be seta a up John sykes's sound, love sykes's sound sweet amp Thanks
AWESOME !!! I PREORDER THIS AMP...
Don Carr baby! :)
Here's a fun game, just click around the timeline, see how often you land on actual tones vs. talking. It's 95% talking.
They got the presence control wrong... pushed in is the new, darker presence curve. Pulled out is the classic IIc+, which is way spikier.
I want it
so it shows it s not only a metal amp it is versatile if i got it right
I'm waiting for my hand wired fender deluxe reverb.
This is probably the worst demo of this amp on youtube. Please atleast understand for who this amp was made and how and why he sets it the way he does.
CabClone=Icepick in ear repeatedly "Peerinkinghonkin" where there shouldn't be "Peerinking" going on at all.. I would really love to see what the design team thought was good enough to go out the front door...
the cab clone sounds so bad Mesa could take the cab clone out and charge MORE and people would buy it.
I have an original Mark 2 and it's awesome. This amp sounds very familiar and I'm glad Mesa finally got around to reissuing it.
I have 2 celestion cabs and 2 vs. Who has that?
Was excited about the CabClone output and the possibility of recording but man, does that sounds like a turd....yuk.
LOL on the Cab Clone tone, did they listen to the playback? Not good at all. sorry.... uggh
Hello can you make another demo that showcase the amp sounds using the features rather than talking so much about the amp. We can read thise on Mesa website. Im sure you would sell more with a good sound demo..
Anyone else underwhelmed with that clean channel? It sounded like it was breaking up to me. If you used this amp with a boost or OD like most metal guys would, the clean channel would likely end up turning into a crunch tone. It was a nice and different demo/review though.
+tranquilescapism They had everything at noon, which I wouldn't have done with this amp - that clean channel would be totally clean by turning down the gain and turning up the Master to match the rest of the amp. I thought the clean was nice, but yeah, a hair crunchy.
I wish they'd gone into some more typical Mark settings on the gain channels - rolling off the bass and adding treble to shape the character of the distortion.
Ryan Masecar I agree, the settings can make a dramatic difference. The rhythm guitar player in my band has a Mesa Mark V and I've had the opportunity to fool around with it a few times (granted it isn't the same as the JP-2C) but I've never been impressed with the cleans on Mesa's. I'm used to a non master volume amp which has tones of headroom. This is a different beast entirely - and subsequently has a lot more features. I personally think this amp excels with distorted tones... Let's just say it's cleans are subjective. Some may like it more than I do.
The Cab Clone may sound not so good, but I found recording level of its demonstration here is really bad. It's so high the sound is obviously distorted. Or maybe the sound actually is as if it is distorted.
hi, friend!! I hope you are well, I have a question with this amplifier regarding how to use the equipment with headphones without the speaker playing, I do not want to have accidents with the amplifier, that is why I am asking you how to use it only with headphones to practice at night. To use with headphones should I leave the SPKR switch OFF? Is it correct to do it like this? or is it done another way??? I hope you can help me, I will be attentive, greetings from Chile!! 👍👍
Hi, Joseguillermo1. The JP2C has a Cab Clone DI/load box built into it. This allows you to use headphones with the amp, with no noise coming through the cabinet you have connected. To do this, you would have Speaker Off selected in the CabClone section on the back of the amp.
Thanks for your interest!
Charlie Davis, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1320, charlie_davis@sweetwater.com
@@sweetwater Friend, thank you very much for responding, greetings and a big hug!
One of 7 amps.
Kind off heavy. Incredible sound..
Relax. This sort of forced salesmanship just doesnt work anymore. Just kick back with a couple sodas (or whatever), talk guitars, and jam. These 2 guys are very likable. Lose the cheap salesman talk, will ya? It's obvious. ;-)
+Josh Brown I agree but a lot of these videos end up being on the page of the individual product you're looking at on Sweetwater, so they probably want to showcase all the features and put the product in the best light with few (if any) negatives. Perhaps they should consider doing a series that is more laid back just for the RUclips audience.
+Josh Brown ... I like the way Sweetwater discusses the options and how someone that prefers that tone would describe it.
+Josh Brown I'm not sure Sweetwater needs your advice on how to make sales.
@@brianbowersox8392 Exactly. Highly agreed. Most of the negative commenters, are talking out of their asses, and are jealous because they can't afford the showcased products. Mesa's are nice, but I think they're highly overrated. Everything is subjective. What sounds good to a person, is the best sound to them. I'm a huge Friedman Fan. In my opinion, they blow the other amps out of the water, when it comes to sound, and the tonal features on their amps.
TC-50 sounds sweeter imo
Sounds nice, but I prefer Friedman. I put in an order with Sweetwater for a Friedman BE-50 deluxe, with a Friedman 4x12 speaker cabinet, with 2 greenbacks on top, and two vintage 30's on the bottom. That's my dream setup, and thanks to Sweetwater, it's attainable and afforable with a 4 year payment plan. Once I discovered Sweetwater in 2017, they are the only company that I will buy music equipment from. Their customer service is better than anybody elses. I always use Sean Carolan, and he is a pleasure to do business with. Can't wait for my order to come in.
CabClone? More Like CabStone..... Nice sounding amp, couldn't they just add a normal D.I out?And use Cab I.R's
This video has normal playback speed until the guy on the right starts talking. As soon as he opens his mouth, the video plays at 1.25X the speed.
watch petrucci demos that amp, it is the best amp in human history, the dream for all guitarists
I think the amp sounds killer! That CabClone tone, though. Yikes.
How to not demo a Mesa.
don't live by the sea side with any audio equipement. rust plus. Arizona is a good plc for amps. j.
lol the cab clone bit
HOW BOUT THAT HUMM? Mmm. Thats what I want to hear. lol. This is a MESA not a Marshall. This demo didn't even Scratch the tone capability of this amp.
I mean if you have to carry. No disrespect.
WHY???!!! Clean please
They don't even know, how to handle the tone controls on a Mark series...
90 percent jaw flappin as usual and 10 percent tonal. this guy's got serious diarrhea of the brain ...
Wow, the cab clone even sucks in the JP! Hell what's going on with Mesa? One BIG reason for not buying this amp.
You don't have to use the CabClone, but it's really not bad. I've got the Mark 5:25, and the CabClone is more than useable. I think the CabClone sounds bad here because the amp is not tweaked at all. All knobs straight up sound terrible on Mark amps, CabClone or not.
Just get a Two Notes Torpedo...oh wait there goes another thousand bux lol
I do already have a Two Notes ;) And I 've tested the Mark 5:25 and didn't like the CabClone and I've tested the CabClone as Standalone device too. It's just in its nature that it sucks because it's a simple resistive load and not a reactive/active load.
AlexisGitarre Well shit you're all set! just a joke mang.
Honestly for this price one amp/one sound isn't worth it. I'd get a Kemper, put up the extra coin
It's just HUGE!!! Yea, I know!! Lol
2 evs
sounds like an angel fart
Ughhh... That Cab Clone sounds so bad. The more I hear it, and the more I see it shoved into their flagship amps, I'm convinced someone at Mesa lost a bet. It's so bad. How can anyone with ears and a brain not hear the difference between everything they played mic'd up in the beginning, and the trash can sounding fart tone at the end. Cab Clone aside, this is an amazing, amazing amp.
+Elliot Grey Cab clone is _less bad_ than what it sounds here, especially for clean sounds. For High Gain stuff, it sounds really crazy. I only use mine (came with my V:25) to add about 30% of the sound in mixes. So you get one or two mics from the cabinet and then add a third channel from the cabclone which you can mix, eq, and blend in the mix. :)
But I agree, it's not "great". I wouldn't play straight from the cabclone to a PA or Mixer on a live gig.
I just started using the cab clone on my JP-2C - mainly because it's easier to setup then my Two Notes Torpedo Reload. I'm getting much better results then I expected with it. In fact, my two notes has been sitting in a drawer since I worked with Cab Clone. Don't get me wrong, Two Notes is a better product, but I just like the convenience of cab clone for quick DAW work and night time practice -- I honestly think this is one of the worst demo's of the JP-2C from a sound/settings standpoint. It's informational, but setting everything to 12 o'clock on any Mesa is going to put it at a very bad reference point. I buy from Sweetwater all the time, but Mesa should clue these guys in, because I thought the whole video was thin and tinty sounding - which is not what the JP-2C should sound like. Yes, I understand not every demo needs to be a metal demo, but c'mon, there are much better tones for hard rock than this.
Dude...it's "than" not "then".
funkyjones Thank you for that correction Internet editor. The check is in the mail.
I always used a PDI-09 with Mesa Boogie gear and works really good. I don't know why they can't just include one on amps these days. The Bright, Dark, and Normal are pretty much the best you can get without using some digital IR loader or something.
Seems like an awesome amp. Except for the Fart Clone. That was just horrible. I'm surprised a company like Mesa would allow such junk to hit the market. But Fart Clone aside, I'm seriously considering this amp... Oh, and it wouldn't hurt to crank the gain and get some real metal tones going... The clichéd, hard rock demos need to stop now!
Cab Clone I've been able to dial in REALLY good - I don't know why Sweetwater can't. It's not quite in the same ballpark as a Two Notes Reload or Live - but it's a great feature on these amps - especially to be able to use a 100 watter at bedroom levels and get decent home studio recordings in the process. I did a Cab Clone demo on sound cloud with the JP-2C when I first got the amp which was better than this, and that was before I had it really dialed in tight. What was Sweetwater thinking?
talk too much. how can i hear how it sounds with your moufs flappin!
+Joshua Carter with these two together, what they say is the best thing you can get. They give a great history lesson and the information is awesome, but when they plug in and play anything heavy, it tends to sound like complete crap lol. These guys just aren't metal or heavy at all haha so I suppose they reach another market, but their settings generally sound like crap to me
It's wired pentode not triode, not good!
Why do they have to play generic classic rock riffs on every video?
Boomers checking out a metal amp makes me laugh
Una delle recensioni più imbarazzanti che abbia mai visto. Talmente imbarazzante che non mi impegno manco a scrivervi in inglese. Diocane.
Blah-blah-blah !
gawd ....waste of time
Cab clone still sounds shit! Where is the the simul class version of this? Mesa's answer is "JP prefers the non simul class 60/100 Mk iiC+" but he plays huge venues. Most of us play clubs and bars where switchable simulclass (like on the Switchtrack Simul 395 power amp) class A power amp overdrive is just so creamy it turns girls on as well as guys! This would mean your clean could use Class AB 75watt headroom and when you switch over to lead you have 15 watt Class A overdriven power amp distortion from heaven. With this new amp that means all those settings would be midi presetable! Common Boogie ... Simul Class iiC+ reissue just like this! Drop the JP name if you want who cares about that?
Boogie doesn't design their amps around power amp distortion. Also, it's a signature amp. As with guitars, the artist can have done to it whatever they want. If JP wanted Simul then the amp would be as such. Just slave it to a SimulClass power amp, maybe? Or just call Boogie and have them make you a signature head so the rest of the world can bitch about how YOUR signature head doesn't meet THEIR needs. The great thing about capitalism is that you don't have to buy it.
Nobody owns these. I have a evh
Little heavy
Boogie sound... Fat, Oily, liquidy sounding leads for days! Mediocre edge of breakup, crunch and cleans... An old Mesa Boogie fan btw... The cleans sound very dead and bland to me. It's like the strings are dead and yet fat and full. Like a fat dead corpse! Crunch on almost all Boogies (except perhaps Lonestar) is just not right, overly middy that can not be dialled out and again a little bit fizzy tops that if you dial it out will make your sound woolly and muffled.
I have never played a Mesa in my life (and I own 3 Mesas by now in the studio) that could give me a balance clean/crunch tone. Lead? It's a different story dude! One of the best lead tones in existence for sure for single note runs and heavy and huge rhythms, however if you wanna have articulate and note separation even in heavy rhythm, you don't get it easy with Boogies. And yeah I know how the EQs work, I know tubes can be replaces between EL34s and 6L6s and all the rest of the usual stories, but no so far only Lonestar could get close to that open blend of American/British sound that sounds acceptable for clean/crunch.
My thoughts exactly. No matter how many bells and whistles they may put in Mesas, they are never versatile enough for me. Beautiful amps? Damn skippy, but just not my cup of java.
WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!😖
Oh man you guys.......I typically love your videos.....but you made the greatest amp on earth sound absolutely horrible.
A terrible demo by two dudes who apparently don't know even the basics of how to dial in these amps. Are they trying not to sell them?
Which is strange because they both claimed to have owned Mesa Boogie Mark series amplifiers. You’d think they freakin know better.
Horrible, talked most the time, then dialed in gross tone. Justice needs to be done to this - I hear this guys voice WAY more than the amps voice.
Probably the worst demo I ever seen.
It would’ve been nice if they put a little time and try to create a quality cab clone. Hearing that demo sounds useless.