Who Is The WORST Lord In Fire Emblem?

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  • Опубликовано: 10 янв 2025

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  • @IWestrada
    @IWestrada Месяц назад +5

    I do like to jokingly think that Nephenee is the secret 4th lord of RD 🤣 For one map, she controls the commands of the army. All 2-3 of them.

  • @anankos795
    @anankos795 Месяц назад +2

    15:29 Whoops, sorry about that; I thought I had turned it off.

    • @DaniDoyle
      @DaniDoyle  Месяц назад +2

      I forgive you 💞

  • @viviblue7277
    @viviblue7277 Месяц назад +3

    Calling Leif weak is a joke. He’s the best unit in Thracia hands down. Sure he’s probably the only unit you’ll train that won’t cap basically every stat, but his numerous unique advantages blow that minor downside of less than perfect stats out of the water. Also any unit who can trivialize their game with low to medium cheese strats I disqualify from being the worst on that merit alone.

  • @colecote1432
    @colecote1432 14 дней назад +1

    2:00:59 I don’t think canto was in fe8, am I wrong? I thought it was introduced in either 9 or 10.

    • @DaniDoyle
      @DaniDoyle  14 дней назад +3

      Canto is in fe4, 5,6,7,8,9,10, and 16.

  • @jonahj9519
    @jonahj9519 Месяц назад +2

    One minor niche of Eliwood’s you didn’t mention is his really high aid post promotion. Promoted Eliwood has a whopping 16 aid, which makes him one of a 3 promoted mounted units capable of rescuing promoted Hector, the others being Florina and Heath(it also makes him the only promoted unit capable of rescuing Hawkeye and promoted Oswin, for whatever that’s worth). This could give him some niche rescue chain capability, which given Hector’s measly 5 move, he could need. Of course Hector can also be rescued by an unpromoted Sain, Kent, Fiora or Farina, but it’s not uncommon to promote all of those units, plus Eliwood is a forced unit for some maps, so no need to use another deployment slot of a rescuer. Again this is all fairly niche, but it does give him the edge over Lyn imo.
    Also Eliwood’s rapier has 7 might. Only Roy’s has 5.

  • @CityXV
    @CityXV 8 дней назад +1

    I dunno, I think Marth is pretty good. Sword characters have an edge against a lot of other characters due to being able to control space and if you can consistently hit with his tipper you can get some very early kills on even some of the heavier characters. He might have dropped in strength since Melee but he's still a solid character.
    On as serious note, great video!

    • @DaniDoyle
      @DaniDoyle  7 дней назад

      It took me a second to understand... I was so confused

  • @RedRenegadeBlast
    @RedRenegadeBlast Месяц назад +9

    THE MARRIAGE WHAT?

  • @Hamantha
    @Hamantha 10 дней назад +2

    The fact that Claude DOESN’T fancy men first and foremost feels like a slap in the face 😒😒

    • @Hamantha
      @Hamantha 9 дней назад +1

      I say as someone who only chose male to romance him and only found out way too late THAT THAT WASNT EVEN AN OPTION!! I FORWENT BEING A BAD BITCH FOR THIS?!

  • @cooperm4185
    @cooperm4185 Месяц назад +11

    Hot take: Eliwoood IS the worst Lord...in Eliwood Hard Mode. You might think "well that doesn't count, we only judge by hardest difficulty and HHM is harder" but I would disagree. Choosing EHM vs HHM is the same as choosing a different House Leader in 3 Houses, except you get to keep the one you didn't choose. You might then argue that HHM has more maps, but Silver Snow is just Verdant Wind without Gronder, Claude's paralogue, and with a different final boss. EHM enemies are obviously far weaker unlike how the Maddening enemies all having the same stats regardless of route, but I feel the scenarios are similar enough.
    Anyway, what makes EHM Eliwood worse than every other Lord is that he's HHM Eliwood but you have to protect him and he promotes even later. In HHM if you train Eliwood he doesnt promote until too late, but once he does he has niche utility like being the only promoted unit other than Rath that can rescue-drop promoted Oswin and Hawkeye and is one of only a few units that can Rescue promoted Hector. In EHM you need to constantly be rescue-dropping HIM around the map. Theres nothing redeeming about him other than getting Geitz, and while Geitz can actually shine more on EHM than HHM due to more deployment slots and can do things like have the novelty of being the only non-Louise or Rath unit that can find practical purpose for the Brave Bow and do standard FE7 Hand Axe spam to kill a lot of things, he still is just a mini-Harken or Hawkeye (also, the first time I ever grinded to get Geitz I got Dart killed in his join map and ignored it so I couldn't even recruit him so fuck Eliwood, Dart, and Geitz all for that). Eliwood has a good affinity, but FE7 supports are imo even worse than FE9 supports. In FE9 they might not matter like...at all, but in FE7 (and FE8) they also dont matter but to actually get them you have to mindlessly press end turn like in FE6. At least theres no longer a cap for how many support points you can get per map.
    Eliwood provides absolutely zero purpose on EHM or the #olympics except to make you think you should have just gone with HHM so you could undeploy him like Lyn. At least Lyn can promote earlier even if she realistically accomplishes absolutely nothing.

  • @nigh_there
    @nigh_there Месяц назад +2

    This video is a frontrunner for the Dani Doyle channel olympics.
    It would probably not impact a lot on the lords comparison, but I wish they hadn't changed the way effective damage works in the international version of FE7. Having played the Jp version, the 3 lords have a much better unit feel with their respective 3x damage rapier clones imo. Deploying and training them never felt like a chore to me... Well, Lyn with no Lyn mode still has it a bit rough at the start.

  • @fluffdafire157
    @fluffdafire157 Месяц назад +4

    Halfway through the video only now realized this is a secret tierlist of the lords

    • @DaniDoyle
      @DaniDoyle  Месяц назад +1

      Not really a tier list, so much as deep diving them. The order is only of categories roughly "best to worst" and within categories it was kinda like...however they most made sense (like Chrom and Lucina being related for example)

    • @fluffdafire157
      @fluffdafire157 Месяц назад

      @DaniDoyle I figured its just funny that how it was structured it seemed kinda similar( kinda wish more people did things from best to worst)

    • @DaniDoyle
      @DaniDoyle  Месяц назад

      I can see the connection haha
      But it was just to build suspense for who's the worst lord shrug

    • @fluffdafire157
      @fluffdafire157 Месяц назад

      @@DaniDoyle fair still great video amigo

  • @titansans2956
    @titansans2956 Месяц назад +4

    I completely agree with your choice of lords. I haven't played enough Radiant Dawn to understand why you chose Sanaki as one, but I'll trust your choice judging by your other choices.
    I have played the Switch games dlcs and I don't think any of characters would be considered lords, and Yuri gameplay wise is the same as the other three Cindered Shadows characters. He is totally a lord story wise though as he is the house leader of the Ashen Wolves.

  • @notagainmanstop468
    @notagainmanstop468 9 дней назад +1

    Tbh lord is not something with any actual qualifications. I like straight up don’t think any of this criteria means anything. It’s about being the main character or central figure or a route with story significance and most importantly- *being actual royalty in the games setting* . For this instance I’d straight up say Robin and byleth are not lords they are just main characters
    Interesting perspective though

  • @jierdareisa4313
    @jierdareisa4313 Месяц назад +3

    I spent longer watching this video than I did the *_Olympics_* this summer, and the *_Olympics_* were taking place in my home country!
    Sick video btw

  • @YojimboBlade
    @YojimboBlade 28 дней назад +5

    Nice video!
    Counterpoint regarding Eirika (and all "bad" Sacred Stones characters): she exists in a game that encourages players to train weak characters in the Tower of Valni. While some see the Tower as "cheating" for charcater analysis, I see it an an optional gameplay tool to help underpowered units become or remain viable, which makes the game way more enjoyable instead of just using the same 5 units every playthrough. Kind of like Pokemon's Exp Share (back when it was optional) and the Day Care. And at least you don't have to go through the Arena Olympics like in other games.

    • @DaniDoyle
      @DaniDoyle  28 дней назад +2

      I feel like if everyone grinds up to be over leveled, there's not really a relevant comparison to be made. Once everyone is one rounding all enemies and refusing to ever die, the cast becomes very samey
      That's not me saying you shouldn't use the tower/skirmishes, I think people should be able to play however they want without judgement (I talked about this more in depth in my Tana video if you want my deeper thoughts) but I don't really see it as relevant for comparing units. While not all games have the tower, they all have a method of over leveling either though exploits (such as boss/arena abuse) or intentional mechanics (such as skirnishes, random enemies, etc)

    • @YojimboBlade
      @YojimboBlade 28 дней назад +2

      @DaniDoyle right, but I didn't mean anything about overleveling. I said "underpowered" units can become "viable", not powerful.
      Thanks again for the video!

  • @jinxhijinx1768
    @jinxhijinx1768 Месяц назад +4

    Only clicked because I saw long bacon scarf in your pfp

  • @that_dude_over_there
    @that_dude_over_there Месяц назад +3

    13:43 This is some BULLSHIT! I can’t believe Brom was taken off! I hope you all are happy.

  • @thoughtfulinsanity3050
    @thoughtfulinsanity3050 Месяц назад +2

    I will say that Dimitri is vulnerable to siege weapons and gambits as well as monsters. And of the 3 I'd say siege weapons are the most dangerous because monsters are easily handled with well planned player phases and Dimitri's high charm negates the gambit risk somewhat.

    • @mvjbass9561
      @mvjbass9561 Месяц назад +2

      He can also struggle with Armoured Blow Fortress Knights. Not exactly the hardest thing to avoid, but it does mean you can't just walk forwards and win when they're around

  • @LP-zn8sc
    @LP-zn8sc Месяц назад +3

    You know its kind of odd that there is some element of the unit discourse in the fe community that lords are generally weaker units. If you actually look at every game I'd argue that a larger amount of lords in fire emblem are broken and among the top tier of units and at worse are usually still passable. Lords are broken generally. (Although I think this scale is majorly tipped by the 3ds era and forward because after fe4 lords generally did become much less impressive)

  • @jierdareisa4313
    @jierdareisa4313 Месяц назад

    1:00:15 to clarify it's not just about the Exp multiplier, it's about the Exp multiplier AND the fact that kills grant a minimum of 8 Exp, meaning that Robin gets a minimum of 12.
    It's somewhat implied in the videos, but let's make it explicit!
    Edit: also great video overall, I'm just nitpicking to add complementary information

  • @thefinalskarm1754
    @thefinalskarm1754 Месяц назад +2

    I like when Dani goes HECK

  • @mcl4549
    @mcl4549 20 дней назад +1

    Inigo is a lord.
    He's a protag in the Fates DLC
    He's hot
    I rest my case

  • @jierdareisa4313
    @jierdareisa4313 Месяц назад +1

    I love ALL Dani Doyle videos!!!! ❤

  • @flintlocke1344
    @flintlocke1344 Месяц назад +2

    Olympics, Olympics
    I think I’ve got a solid theory for why FE7 Knight Lord and FE8 Great Lord have 7 move.
    The throughline between those classes and every other 7-move promoted mount in FE8 is that all of them promote from infantry classes. Even Valkyrie is consistent with this, getting dropped from 8 to 7 move in the transition from FE7 to FE8, since Clerics can choose Valkyrie as a promotion.
    It looks like for some reason IS didn’t want any promotion to give more than +2 move in the GBA era. We can also see this with Great Knight, which loses -1 move from Cavalier and gains +2 move from Knight.
    So it’s not a balance change in FE8 or targeted spite in FE7, but an underlying design choice cursing these classes with the unforgivable sin of being slightly less mobile than the designated good-at-mobility classes.
    I’ve never been huge on mount spam or low-turn clears as a primary goal in any FE game(yes dear reader, even the one you’re thinking about), so I wouldn’t say it’s a good or bad decision imo, but I think it is very unnecessary. My hopefully-soon-to-be-not-strictly-hypothetical hack is going to have at least one promotion that gives +3 move, for whatever that’s worth.

  • @ZozoCats
    @ZozoCats Месяц назад +1

    Really awesome video! I really enjoy your content :)

    • @DaniDoyle
      @DaniDoyle  Месяц назад

      I'm glad you like it! 😊

  • @Calithesilly
    @Calithesilly 17 дней назад

    I always love how much info you pack into these, now I'm curious as to how the unofficial/excluded lord characters stack up and who actually qualifies for those roles. Like you've got your obvious picks like the royals in Fateslandia and Elyos, plus Seteth and Elinicia, but then there's the freaky ones like the DLC campaigns and side stories, or even Rickard from BSFE and the FE12 Bonus maps.
    Either way we all know that the objectively best lord in the series is Rowan bc he's nice :)

  • @fauzen2
    @fauzen2 5 дней назад

    I know I'm extremely late to this party and I haven't read all of the comments so I don't know if anyone mentioned this but the first heaven seal is actually available in chapter 24 in the Blazing Blade not 26. I know that 2 chapters isn't much in terms of timing however I should mention that those 2 chapters does grant Lyn or Hector in Eliwood mode or Eliwood in Hector mode a bit of time to actually become fairly competent. MIND you I am actually NOSTALGIA biased towards Blazing Blade so I tend to try to look more favorably towards it than it likely deserves.

  • @francie3169
    @francie3169 Месяц назад +3

    When the title card refers to everyone loves Marth it's actually referring to only me
    I love Marth

  • @dalenu
    @dalenu Месяц назад +3

    14:50 my justification for lucina is that she appears in smash 😊

  • @Xan13
    @Xan13 18 дней назад

    Super cool video, thanks for the in depth character analysis for some of my favorite games. I love longer videos like this for when I go on walks, etc.
    LYN WOULD DO WELL IN THE OLYMPICS

  • @konch7567
    @konch7567 29 дней назад +1

    I can't believe I listened to this entire video while never taking the time to finish watching any sport in the Olympics. Oh well 🤷‍♂️. Great video though!

  • @A2ZOMG
    @A2ZOMG Месяц назад

    3:17:07 FE7 Rapier is 7 MT not 5, so it's 14 MT on eff which combined with the accuracy actually makes Eliwood better than even Silver Lance Marcus at killing Uhai.

  • @panwp123
    @panwp123 11 дней назад

    I think its important to say that another strengt of seliph is that giving him favoritism is in a way less of a favoritism than giving it to other people. Because he is the son of Sigurd. Who, for example, will be almost guaranteed to have multiple crit maxxed swords in his equipment.

  • @justinjamesmdlc
    @justinjamesmdlc 25 дней назад

    Olympics
    Amazing video 💯 I always learn something new from your analysis, and I appreciate your coverage of non-obvious strats or unit development pathing that ppl may not know about.
    Your ability to breakdown and communicate that analysis in a very digestible way is probably my favorite part of your content.
    Of the games I know well, I had a few counterpoints. But honestly, after watching this, I just want to take this moment to give you your flowers on this masterpiece 🌹 🌺 🌼
    Congratulations on this labor of love, and I’m looking forward to more great content in the future!

  • @AdamWithFED
    @AdamWithFED Месяц назад

    Took me a few days to finish, but this video was great. Thanks for the analysis! Olympics are pretty cool.

  • @tailoredmuffin3668
    @tailoredmuffin3668 Месяц назад +2

    Personally I think that while Brom should count as a lord due to his story relevance in both Tellius games as well as his required endgame fight, his daughter Meg also should be considered not only as a lord for RD, but as the best one in the franchise due to her unique support with Ilyana that gives her +15 to her Speed stat and effective damage vs units who have nasal congestion.For the worst lord in the Olympics I think Lyn generally offers no real role in FE7 that other fast units like Florina can't do with the same investment as well as having to contest both Hector or Eliwood depending on mode for her promotion which offers her the least of the three.

  • @Likaboss480
    @Likaboss480 Месяц назад +4

    I love the fact that Dani truley does what she wants and doesn't care lmao "imma prank the rd skippers" 😂

  • @zoesequeira5388
    @zoesequeira5388 Месяц назад +8

    I think of the lords in games I've played, Lyn comes across as the weakest. But she'd probably do better in the Olympics as she can participate archery as well as fencing events

  • @johnlynch1353
    @johnlynch1353 Месяц назад +4

    I can’t really consider Erica one of the worst lords in fire emblem because I feel like despite how out classed she is by most of the rest of the other characters in her game she could probably do a solo run through her game with a not unreasonable amount of save skummimg and beat it. Which is not something I feel like I could say for a but a handful of other lords.
    Don’t get me wrong I don’t think she is good I just don’t feel comfortable calling a character who could clear the game on their own the worst if others could not do so.

    • @pokemonherogaming4669
      @pokemonherogaming4669 Месяц назад +2

      Fe8 is objectively the easiest game in the series. It's the only game that EVERY unit can solo without too much difficulty. So therefore you can't use that argument.

    • @johnlynch1353
      @johnlynch1353 Месяц назад +1

      @ I disagree that every unit can for example all the unpromoted staff users probably couldn’t, and the trainees probably would require an unreasonable amount of save skumming.
      And even if that isn’t true I don’t see how that invalidates my argument. We are talking about the worst lord in the series. She is one of the few lords who could reasonably solo thier game. Is this less impressive because most of the other units in her game could do the same yes. How can you be comfortable saying she is the worst lord in the series despite not even struggling that hard in her own game because of how easy it is.

  • @filipower776
    @filipower776 Месяц назад +4

    I think it's Hector (totally not biased bc of my 12 str 20/4 hector in my sole HHM run)

  • @naotoueda2838
    @naotoueda2838 Месяц назад +3

    The worst lord is Zadd from vestaria saga
    Spoilers:
    You get punished for promoting him like any standard player

  • @brendanwiley253
    @brendanwiley253 18 дней назад

    Welp, 2 hours in and I think I've figured it out that this is a standard "Who's the best lord in Fire Emblem" but framed from the opposite direction.

  • @Manualzion
    @Manualzion 8 часов назад

    I am the biggest defender of Roy + Lilina in FE6. Their support builds lightning fast, Lilna is needed for a bunch of recruits, Lilna's an alright mage in a game where that alone is strong utility, and it actually scales pretty decently into the lategame with Lilna's big single damage hit tomes. The lategame staff users are all nuts but Lilna's pretty solid for most of the midgame (which is the actually tough part of FE6) provided you use the training spots in her paralogue to actually train her instead of skipping the level.
    It's a synergy so nice that I think it makes the two of them far better in practice than you'd see in a vacuum, and I agree that Roy isn't THAT bad

  • @ShirakoriMio
    @ShirakoriMio 20 дней назад

    how is this three and a half hours long
    Earned my sub though dang good content

  • @arvis4prez
    @arvis4prez Месяц назад +4

    Who is the worst lord in the series? Me. Have you seen my playstyle?

  • @Error403HRD
    @Error403HRD 22 дня назад

    This. This is why you're one of my favorite RUclipsrs

  • @IWestrada
    @IWestrada Месяц назад

    Side note about Radiant Dawn, the leader of the army is able to issue the direct command to the rest of the army to perform automated actions. I'd argue with that being a condition, the only possible options should be Micaiah, Elincia, Nephenee, Lucia, Geoffrey, Ike, and Tibarn (I think). Of those, Micaiah and Ike are obviously lords. The third one would either go to Elincia, who, like it or not, is the central character for part of the game, or Tibarn, who leads the Hawk Army in part 4. Sanaki is just a force deployed Veyle.

  • @klodpraisor
    @klodpraisor Месяц назад +3

    i thought this is a video about worst lord for lore reasons because the edelgard thumbnail lmao

  • @Turtle-p8d
    @Turtle-p8d Месяц назад

    your content has been getting me back into fire emblem after i got burnt out for playing like 6 games in a row lol, keep it up :3

  • @shanemiller1182
    @shanemiller1182 20 дней назад +2

    The main take away from this video is how bad Dani is at smash bros 😔