This is probably the best video I've seen explaining the problem of standing up. This drill makes it very easy to see what is going on and how to envision fixing it.
Hi Eric, I'm from the UK, sixty-four years of age and play off a handicap of +1.3. For years I've had early extension and no rotation, but been able to save hooks and pushes with face manipulation using hands and arms, and a 'get me out of jail' short game. My driving has always been solid, but my irons has been the challenge. This drill has transformed my ball striking, shape, flight (de-lofted) as I'm now rotating! This coupled with your alignment stick drill which stops me thrusting forward and trying to get my knees together at impact has been a game changer. I recommend these drills without reservation. Thank you for giving me the impetus to get even lower.
Due to some health issues I was unable to play golf for 3 years...A few months ago I started going to the range and after about 3 months I went back to the course with our golf group of 40 plus years.. I've had a bad issue standing up since I started back...awful actually. I found this video and drill and took it to the range and saw much better contact...control...and aim. Yesterday I took it to the course and actually used the choke up method...I took a extra club to allow for the distance and I hit the ball better...and hit more greens that I can remember. On the back 9 I had to drop down a club on my irons because I was flushing it so well..This drill works...Thanks!
HOORAY!!!! Finally somebody is seeing what I'm seeing and ACTUALLY SAYING IT OUT LOUD!!! I thought I was imagining it. I was hoping somewhere I'd find a video where somebody put a line at someone's head or knees a demonstrated that the great and good players are lowering their position!!! They talk about everything else but that.
"... And I wanted him to go home and practice this with at least 20 reps a day for 90 days". Exactly the point of a small fix made to work, but only over a longer period of time with consistent repetition. Thanks for this important point Eric.
Phenomenal tip with the right timing. I just figured out how to release the club and I was pulling up out of my swing. This is the key I have been looking for.
The info that Eric shares in his videos is absolute gold!!! All of his instruction is very well explained for all to understand. This is explained "simply"
Hi Eric I have been struggling with early extension for the past 67 years of golf I have greatly appreciated your input on all the different ways to solve this problem
This is amazing!! Thank you! Been working on this for some time now. It's the biggest piece of the swing puzzle I'm missing. Cannot wait to give this a try!
This has been my problem as well. Ironically my yardage book has 3 different yardages for each club. No choke, mid grip, and full choke - where my right thumb is right at grip meets shaft. So that’s my fix. Full choke repetitions. And I wondered why I always pure those full choke shots. I’m staying down on the ball. Sigh. Now to incorporate to the rest of my swings. Thank you sir!!!
Bravo Eric. Lovely information. Thanx for sharing good sir. It was a pleasure seeing you on Grant's recent video as well. When he started posting his 'teaches' videos I really hoped he would have a video with you at some point.
What I notice with many students they come in with to much bend at the knees at address. After looking at video on a student you see a series of chucked shots. to compensate for chunking they were literally un flexing knees in down swing to try and eliminate the chunk. Once the knee flex was adjusted at address to eliminate most of the knee bend stand closer to the ball bend more at the hips and swing with no compensation. Results were positive and immediate. best example of no knee bend or very little is Freddy.
Huge thanks my 7 iron is my 160 club and after 20 reps I hit a 193 yard 7 iron. RUclips doesn't let you post a picture in comments but I have it! Thanks again!
Very good advice. I discovered this concept for my swing about 2months ago. Why did I discover? I stopped swing the club considered all my swing flaws. Then I consider what needed to change based on the end result I wanted to accomplish with each swing (I I’m a flipper) one can not hit the ball consistently and on target flipping with the right hand DING!!!😮 So, what should I do to stop flipping at the ball?
@@CogornoGolf : good vid. I watched the entire video. Preset with. Closed club face at setup is scary.😬I’m willing to try anything or Make Any adjustments to lower my handi and play more Predictable golf
Arrrrghhhh! This is so me, my poor golf pro constantly tells me not to lift my head but I can’t seem to figure it out. I hope this works for me. Many thanks.
I don't stand up too much, but this is a great video. My through and turn can be better. Great explanation and clear. I look forward to working that drill.
Excellent lesson! I have struggled with standing for years. Like your student, very inconsistant. What do you think about hovering the club at address, maybe not 2" up, while playing. Seems like it should work. I will test it tomorrow. Thank you.
Standing up is a symptom of bad clubhead position at the top. If you put the clubhead in the right position... the body just reacts. I fix the backswing in order to fix the downswing.
What Eric is describing here is an overhand motion swing. What he's trying to fix is an underhand or downward swing motion. An overhand swing is when the clubhead at impact is above the shoulder plane - as we see in all the professional swings he's referencing.
Hey Eric, can I use this same right shoulder down and forward swing thought for sand shots, pitching and chipping? I tend to early extend, flinch and decelerate with the short shots. Thanks for another great lesson!
Hey Mark! You can yes....but doesnt go as far DOWN because less shaft lean for those shots. Forward for sure. Or make sure your chest keeps turning as alternative feel to accomplish same thing
Hi Eric, can you please do a video on backswing rotation feels and drills…I have a tendency to reverse pivot sometime which causes various issues…thanks in advance…..
Hi Eric, following my previous comment regarding this drill, I started to incorporate it on the course, I guess similar to Matt Kuchar. Is this something you'd encourage, as for me it ensures I move towards the ball, though I have bladed the odd shot with the irons so I was wondering if I should persevere with this, or just use as a drill?
Hey Mark! I can't say for sure without seeing your swing on video (what are you actually doing vs what you FEEL) send vids to www.cogornogolf.com so I can see and better help!
I always wondered and struggled with this shoulder down, stay down approach thinking that i will hit ground way before ball. It is hard to get this into brain that did swing wrong from day one. This mental block of hitting ground before ball gets worse and worse as club gets longer. I feel like i have no body control, club control doing this regardless of being correct approach - hard to adopt.
Thanks. I hit pretty solid in driving range but went haywire when on the actual green. 80% topping all the time, although the ball still fly but it costs distance and poor contact. Is it the same problem explaining here ?
Hey! COULD be....I would need to see to be honest. Send swings to www.cogornogolf.com/free trial I'll analyze your swing and build you custom practice plan risk free
I have found the solution it was all in the setup hips under the body rather than outside of the hips there is only one way the hips can go from here the and that is behind me no more early extension the rest of my life is now fulfilled thank you
heres an odd question: after doing 20 reps for 60 days is it time to go back to a higher grip as opposed to gripping down to the shaft? thank you for the great drill.
Hey! Yeah you could try that......I would look and see how your normal swing looks compared to the drill. Also....no such thing as doing this for too long. You could simply do the exact drill for the rest of your life.
So I tried your exercise. I completely choked up on the grip, all the way down. It did help me stay down on the shot. But what really surprised me I hit the ball farther with the choked-up grip. Is this possible? One would think the ball wouldn't go very far. Crazy. I always thought the longest club would go farther. Any explanation?
Excellent! Yes for sure.....likely because you are delivering less loft (dynamic loft) When you stand up you early release....do you add loft.....turn an 8 iron into a PW When you stay down you take loft off (like the pros) so think turn an 8 iron into a 6 iron Thats likely it.....combines with potentially hitting it more solid in the middle of the face. Not likely that its speed
Hey Robert! Usually thats from turning the shoulders TOO FLAT late in the backswing (left shoulder going up) If its not that its not enough change in the leg flex/hip tilt (bend left knee down and forward more) Try feeling left shoulder MORE DOWN/left knee more forward LATE in the backswing AT THE SAME TIME that you stand up and see if that solves If not send videos to www.cogornogolf.com we can solve for ya
If you lower the right shoulder and hip without PUSHING the pelvis back to offset the momentum of the club, you are inducing a steep over the top move. The upper body hip move without the offsetting pelvis is WHY you stand up. If you don't stand up you'll MISS THE BALL! Watch the pro videos in this clip, and watch their hips / pelvis position; the pelvis does NOT move closer to the ball.
I struggled with this for years. Personally I think alot of peaple stand in the down swing be cause they are pulling their head to look at the target, instead watching the club hit the ball through impact. I focused on watching the club hit the ball and staying there well after impact. Your trail should will bring your head up naturally. I also focused on keeping my nose the same distance from the ball in the back swing and down swing.
This is probably the best video I've seen explaining the problem of standing up.
This drill makes it very easy to see what is going on and how to envision fixing it.
Appreciate it John!
Hi Eric, I'm from the UK, sixty-four years of age and play off a handicap of +1.3. For years I've had early extension and no rotation, but been able to save hooks and pushes with face manipulation using hands and arms, and a 'get me out of jail' short game.
My driving has always been solid, but my irons has been the challenge. This drill has transformed my ball striking, shape, flight (de-lofted) as I'm now rotating!
This coupled with your alignment stick drill which stops me thrusting forward and trying to get my knees together at impact has been a game changer.
I recommend these drills without reservation. Thank you for giving me the impetus to get even lower.
👊
Love this, Mark!
best videos on how to stay down that I’ve seen in a long time great job thank you
Thank you!
Due to some health issues I was unable to play golf for 3 years...A few months ago I started going to the range and after about 3 months I went back to the course with our golf group of 40 plus years..
I've had a bad issue standing up since I started back...awful actually. I found this video and drill and took it to the range and saw much better contact...control...and aim. Yesterday I took it to the course and actually used the choke up method...I took a extra club to allow for the distance and I hit the ball better...and hit more greens that I can remember. On the back 9 I had to drop down a club on my irons because I was flushing it so well..This drill works...Thanks!
Love to hear this Sarah!!
HOORAY!!!! Finally somebody is seeing what I'm seeing and ACTUALLY SAYING IT OUT LOUD!!! I thought I was imagining it. I was hoping somewhere I'd find a video where somebody put a line at someone's head or knees a demonstrated that the great and good players are lowering their position!!! They talk about everything else but that.
👊
Appreciate ya watching!
Thanks my guy. Every time I get stuck I need to take it to the next level. I circle back to your videos. I appreciate you so much.
Paul
Hell yeah---appreciate the support!
This is soooo true. That right shoulder move along with rotating through is the KEY. thank you for sharing such great video.
100%! Thank you!!
"... And I wanted him to go home and practice this with at least 20 reps a day for 90 days". Exactly the point of a small fix made to work, but only over a longer period of time with consistent repetition. Thanks for this important point Eric.
100% agreed! No getting away with not doing the practice reps :)
Excellent point, you have to overcome the habit of standing up which is engrained in you.
😊
Would you add the “step drill” to this to avoid the issue of hitting it fat. Forcing you to rotate through the swing as you maintain that spine angle?
I have a lot of problems with this but I’ve improved from what u used to be but this will speed the process - thanks for the help!
Our pleasure!👊
Love the way you think of different ways to solve golfing problems. Much enjoy and appreciate your videos Eric.
Thanks Mick!
Phenomenal tip with the right timing. I just figured out how to release the club and I was pulling up out of my swing. This is the key I have been looking for.
Hope it helps, Davis!!
Great video Eric, on how to get down to the ball with nice compression. Very easy to follow and understand.
Thanks Robert!!
What are the best videos on how to stay down that I’ve seen in a long time great job thank you
Thanks!
The info that Eric shares in his videos is absolute gold!!! All of his instruction is very well explained for all to understand. This is explained "simply"
Thank you Art! Hope it helps!
Really needed this lesson. Will sure save this one. Thanks
Hope it helps, Mike!
Hi Eric I have been struggling with early extension for the past 67 years of golf I have greatly appreciated your input on all the different ways to solve this problem
Our pleasure Jim! Hope it helps!
Thanks, I needed this. 4 Hdcp with standing up issues.
Our pleasure Joseph! Hope this one serves you well!
This is amazing!! Thank you! Been working on this for some time now. It's the biggest piece of the swing puzzle I'm missing. Cannot wait to give this a try!
Thanks Marvin! Hope this one helps!!
Great content once again Eric. Something I've been working on for awhile now. Re-programming the brain as well as muscle memory takes time. LOL.
Thats for sure lol!! Thanks!
A beautiful explanation ! Brought tears to my eyes ! For a beginning golfer, just to glimpse into the mystery of it ! Thank you, Eric.
Really appreciate the kind words and support!! Our pleasure!
great tip!! I'm going to make this a must do exercise !!!!
Hope it helps Carey!
Right shoulder down and through. That'll be my swing thoughts. Thank you!
Hope it helps!
And yet another lesson that hits the trouble spot dead on…..know I had this problem but just couldn’t figure it out….mystery solved ! tnx
Hope it serves you well, Martin!
This has been my problem as well. Ironically my yardage book has 3 different yardages for each club. No choke, mid grip, and full choke - where my right thumb is right at grip meets shaft. So that’s my fix. Full choke repetitions. And I wondered why I always pure those full choke shots. I’m staying down on the ball. Sigh. Now to incorporate to the rest of my swings. Thank you sir!!!
Haha yes! You are on the right track there---I used to wonder the same thing for me :)
This was exactly what I needed to hear. Thank you!
You got it!!
Bravo Eric. Lovely information. Thanx for sharing good sir. It was a pleasure seeing you on Grant's recent video as well. When he started posting his 'teaches' videos I really hoped he would have a video with you at some point.
Thanks Chris! Appreciate your support!
Thanks Eric, that really helped!
Our pleasure!!
Good lesson!! Perfec descripion and fix for me and wha I do.
Hope it helps Jonathan!
Great video. Going to work on this today
Hope it serves you well, Tony!
Pure gold instruction! Great!
Thank you!
What I notice with many students they come in with to much bend at the knees at address. After looking at video on a student you see a series of chucked shots. to compensate for chunking they were literally un flexing knees in down swing to try and eliminate the chunk. Once the knee flex was adjusted at address to eliminate most of the knee bend stand closer to the ball bend more at the hips and swing with no compensation. Results were positive and immediate. best example of no knee bend or very little is Freddy.
Yep totally agreed! I see that as well!
Of course that won't be the instant fix for ALL players as you know but for sure some!! Good stuff
Really liking that drill !! Would you ever try doing that drill with longer clubs????
All clubs, Phil!
Huge thanks my 7 iron is my 160 club and after 20 reps I hit a 193 yard 7 iron. RUclips doesn't let you post a picture in comments but I have it! Thanks again!
Very good advice. I discovered this concept for my swing about 2months ago. Why did I discover? I stopped swing the club considered all my swing flaws. Then I consider what needed to change based on the end result I wanted to accomplish with each swing (I I’m a flipper) one can not hit the ball consistently and on target flipping with the right hand DING!!!😮 So, what should I do to stop flipping at the ball?
Thanks! I think you'll enjoy checking this video out!
ruclips.net/video/odSKa4DY4SA/видео.htmlfeature=shared
@@CogornoGolf : good vid. I watched the entire video. Preset with. Closed club face at setup is scary.😬I’m willing to try anything or
Make Any adjustments to lower my handi and play more Predictable golf
Arrrrghhhh! This is so me, my poor golf pro constantly tells me not to lift my head but I can’t seem to figure it out. I hope this works for me. Many thanks.
Hope this one helps!
great lesson
Thanks Robert!!
Love this Eric, great video…
Thank you!
I don't stand up too much, but this is a great video. My through and turn can be better. Great explanation and clear. I look forward to working that drill.
Thanks Joseph! Hope this one serves you well!
Excellent lesson! I have struggled with standing for years. Like your student, very inconsistant. What do you think about hovering the club at address, maybe not 2" up, while playing. Seems like it should work. I will test it tomorrow. Thank you.
Could be worth a try!!! Anything goes if you can make it work :)
Standing up is a symptom of bad clubhead position at the top. If you put the clubhead in the right position... the body just reacts. I fix the backswing in order to fix the downswing.
What Eric is describing here is an overhand motion swing. What he's trying to fix is an underhand or downward swing motion. An overhand swing is when the clubhead at impact is above the shoulder plane - as we see in all the professional swings he's referencing.
Hey! Hope you're well! Thanks for watching and the feedback!
Hey Eric, can I use this same right shoulder down and forward swing thought for sand shots, pitching and chipping? I tend to early extend, flinch and decelerate with the short shots. Thanks for another great lesson!
Hey Mark! You can yes....but doesnt go as far DOWN because less shaft lean for those shots.
Forward for sure. Or make sure your chest keeps turning as alternative feel to accomplish same thing
❤..my biggest issue is standing up..now I know how to fix it..thnx
Hope it helps Jerry!
Hi Eric, can you please do a video on backswing rotation feels and drills…I have a tendency to reverse pivot sometime which causes various issues…thanks in advance…..
I think these will help a lot!
ruclips.net/video/pPlAIUbGTOY/видео.htmlfeature=shared
ruclips.net/video/CNODY4Ka4Qs/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Great Job!
Thanks!
Hi Eric, following my previous comment regarding this drill, I started to incorporate it on the course, I guess similar to Matt Kuchar. Is this something you'd encourage, as for me it ensures I move towards the ball, though I have bladed the odd shot with the irons so I was wondering if I should persevere with this, or just use as a drill?
Hey Mark! I can't say for sure without seeing your swing on video (what are you actually doing vs what you FEEL) send vids to www.cogornogolf.com so I can see and better help!
ec excellent explainer
Thank you!
Good information!
Thanks Leonard!
I always wondered and struggled with this shoulder down, stay down approach thinking that i will hit ground way before ball. It is hard to get this into brain that did swing wrong from day one. This mental block of hitting ground before ball gets worse and worse as club gets longer. I feel like i have no body control, club control doing this regardless of being correct approach - hard to adopt.
great tip
Thanks Niguel!
Thanks. I hit pretty solid in driving range but went haywire when on the actual green. 80% topping all the time, although the ball still fly but it costs distance and poor contact. Is it the same problem explaining here ?
Hey! COULD be....I would need to see to be honest. Send swings to www.cogornogolf.com/free trial I'll analyze your swing and build you custom practice plan risk free
I have found the solution it was all in the setup hips under the body rather than outside of the hips there is only one way the hips can go from here the and that is behind me no more early extension the rest of my life is now fulfilled thank you
Huh?
Love it Jim!
Dynamite, Eric…thank you!!
Thanks Bob!
When I do this correctly, I get a shallow 3×6 divot, the front and back are square, a perfect rectangle. The front especially sb square, not jagged.
Love it!
Going to try this at the range..this had becoming a problem in the last 3 weeks
Hope it serves you well!
Great drill! What irons are you playing?
Thanks! Takomo CB 301!
Have a look at Tommy Fleetwood and Lydia Ko, a choked up grip works for them.
True!!
First class tuition as usual
Thank you Mitchell!
Would you and could you do this with every club? I definitly early extend when I swing my driver.
Yes, all clubs!
heres an odd question: after doing 20 reps for 60 days is it time to go back to a higher grip as opposed to gripping down to the shaft? thank you for the great drill.
Hey! Yeah you could try that......I would look and see how your normal swing looks compared to the drill.
Also....no such thing as doing this for too long. You could simply do the exact drill for the rest of your life.
감사합니다 스윙 궤도 방향성까지 도움이 됩니다.
Hope it serves you well!
Brilliant!
Thanks!
Soooooo good!
Thank you :)
So I tried your exercise. I completely choked up on the grip, all the way down. It did help me stay down on the shot. But what really surprised me I hit the ball farther with the choked-up grip. Is this possible? One would think the ball wouldn't go very far. Crazy. I always thought the longest club would go farther. Any explanation?
Excellent! Yes for sure.....likely because you are delivering less loft (dynamic loft)
When you stand up you early release....do you add loft.....turn an 8 iron into a PW
When you stay down you take loft off (like the pros) so think turn an 8 iron into a 6 iron
Thats likely it.....combines with potentially hitting it more solid in the middle of the face. Not likely that its speed
Do you use this movement pattern for driver as well or is it only for irons
Hey Frank! All clubs!
Pure Gold
Thanks!
I want your hat Eric ..... yours truly EDDIE LOL !!!
Yo!! You can get them at Municipal! :)
My issue isn't standing up during the downswing. Rather, it is in standing up in the final position at the top of the backswing.
Hey Robert!
Usually thats from turning the shoulders TOO FLAT late in the backswing (left shoulder going up)
If its not that its not enough change in the leg flex/hip tilt (bend left knee down and forward more)
Try feeling left shoulder MORE DOWN/left knee more forward LATE in the backswing AT THE SAME TIME that you stand up and see if that solves
If not send videos to www.cogornogolf.com we can solve for ya
This drill is decent but doesn't train the wrist conditions to adjust ( high handle ect ) 👍
Hey Jon! Agreed---the goal would be to fix the ROOT (body motions) FIRST.....then you can adjust other pieces as needed AFTER :)
I have the problem of a steep to over the top shot
ruclips.net/video/qOQebVaJmOg/видео.htmlfeature=shared
This one should help James!
Reminds me of AK, how he grips so gar down .
Yeah true!!
It usually starts in the backswing
Lots of time for sure---agreed!
What about count yogi?
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@@CogornoGolf he stood tall throughout the swing
💡
:)
Took me about 3 years to figure that out!
Hope this one was helpful!
A good pro to watch is Noren. He over exaggerates this move before each shot.
Yes!
Hi Eric
Hey Jim! Thanks for watching!
If you lower the right shoulder and hip without PUSHING the pelvis back to offset the momentum of the club, you are inducing a steep over the top move. The upper body hip move without the offsetting pelvis is WHY you stand up. If you don't stand up you'll MISS THE BALL! Watch the pro videos in this clip, and watch their hips / pelvis position; the pelvis does NOT move closer to the ball.
Watch Eric's previous video on June 8, 2024 discussing rotation, speaking exactly on your point.
@@gregoire8376 Correct. Without that context, how helpful is this?
:)
Staying down is the worse thing to do. Stay behind the ball and swing through.
:)
Hogan lowered from address to impact.
For sure....and you'll see his trail arm much more bent and body much more open at impact compared to setup to offset that
Seems like you just keep your knees bent. HAVE to stay down.
Whatever works for ya!! Gotta get the upper and lower body stuff right to make it work perfect
@@CogornoGolf Unless your Sam Snead I'd give up on seeking perfection.
I struggled with this for years. Personally I think alot of peaple stand in the down swing be cause they are pulling their head to look at the target, instead watching the club hit the ball through impact. I focused on watching the club hit the ball and staying there well after impact. Your trail should will bring your head up naturally. I also focused on keeping my nose the same distance from the ball in the back swing and down swing.
Thanks, standing up and stepping out .Yikes
Hope it helps!
Sorry, what did he say?😂
Is this a recycled video.?
I saw this one awhile ago
Why does it take 11min to explain how to stay down!
Lol just trying to pass along the details that may help :)
ridiculous
Thanks for the feedback! Which part specifically?
Thx Eric!! This is a problem I have… being 6’3…I stand up during the downswing which leads to all kind of ball striking problems 🏌🏾
Hope this one helps ya!!