Finally, someone with knowledge who gives us the real deal on differences between the models. Thank You Mr. Brenton for the explanation. Damn Good. StanTheMan, The Motor City (Detroit)
My 2022 super stock ran 10:14 @ 134 , nothing done to it , 18 inch stock tires 93 octane , and they will go 9;80 with better tires and some 100 octane mix, in 3 years less than 600 made , in 3 years !this will be the most collectible in years to come
Great and informative video, thank you! It should be noted that however that the transbrake only ever being available on the Demon is incorrect; the 2019-2022 Dodge Challenger R/T Scat Pack 1320 also has the transbrake.
Had a original 70s challenger I agree the magnum was a bad looking mother. The challengers are cool but old ones were wide with low roofline more like a viper. New ones the roof and doors seem taller. The magnum just had the look.
@@miguelangelescobedo4414 I don't trust those videos because throttle house did a roll race & the redeye won. Those guys race for living they aren't gonna be truthful on there builds. Think about why, why would they give the world there setup? I know Brett would get 2 completely stock cars on a tire & run them
Thanks for the great video! Ordered my Super Stock a couple days ago and should have it in 7-8 weeks. Stoked! I want the limited speed removed so what will that cost from your shop?
@@ForzaTuned hell yeah dude I'd love to see that. You guys are just awesome. Hey hey I've got 1 more question actually, what'll happen if you use some NoS in that same car? You think it'll break into 7s?
@Forza Tuning & Performance , Breton thanks so much for your time in making these videos, It means a lot and we love them. The time it takes to work on cars and the time involved in putting these videos together is amazing! How do you sleep or do you sleep? Anyways you talk about max speed, If one had the best high speed tires what do you think the max speed you can get out of your tune? Thanks again and so glad I stumbled upon your channel! Keep up the great work and as always I cant wait till the next ;) I want a Forza mug btw!
Do you guys do upgrades like Hennessy and Saleen does ? I asked this because I’ve been in contact with Hennessy about doing their 1000 hp package around 26K with a three-year 36,000 mile warranty. If you guys do upgrades, what is the horsepower and is there any warranty and the cost of it? Right now we are looking for a redeye or SS in the color I want and widebody so I’m trying to figure all this upgrade out before we find it so we can go directly from the dealer to the people that are going to be doing the upgrade
Thanks Brenton! Great video.. Question The Redeye is what hp and tourqe with your 4-R package? I have a GT Hause cat back with valves. I also installed the good diff brace. I just dont see what the approximate tuned hp & Tourqe ratings are after the dyno tuning and new parts?? A
Make a video on drag pak challenger and what's the secret sauce that allows it to run it 7 seconds? Also is it possible to make street legal car using the same components?
Hi Brenton...in you opinion which is the better model to use as the base if you want both the Demon track performance and the Redeye top speed. Super Stock or Redeye Widebody. Dodge no longer does the 20" wheel package on the SS. thanks...when are you going to do more hellephant teardown vids?
The Super Stock is on my radar to trade up in a few years from my RT Plus Shaker. I just hope I can find one available. I think I will change out the drag radials and every day it... I agree the power is usually higher than stated, my RT Shaker Dynoed at 395 HP.
I’m looking to get a 23 super stock because I was told it has the demon engine and blower and the redeye does not. Is this correct for the 2023? I ask because it seams like the 2020 was the same engine and blower in the SS or Redeye.
What's your take on the new mopar Hellcrate redeye they released do you think it's the same kinda package like the previous Hellcrate and do you think its possible to it into a standard vehicle not like 1971 pre retro style. Also looking for update on that hellaphant crate video awhile back into a customers demon
Glad there is a street tire option. 4 DR's doesn't make a lot of sense to me, rather do sticky Mickey"s on the rear and skinnies on the front for track use. Good job on the video, Dodge should give you the commish.
Amazing video, covered everything thing. I was debating on the 3.09 gears on the redeye but I’m also debating on the super stock. Super torn about my decision
I no this video is old but you saying if I change the tires to the 20 inch tires I can go faster than 168 or do you’ll have to change it in the ecu to go faster than 168
Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't the stock redeye comes with all the same features as the demon like launch control, launch assist, and torque reserve it is just missing the special suspension and trans brake. Is the suspension on the super stock the same as the demon?
Have you seen the srt ghoul that dodge engineers came up with that speedcore end up building. Its badass it's got the hellephant engine. It's on a episode of power nation engine power
Are you saying that even though the Redeye is rated at 797HP 6300RPM. But also the Redeye has 807HP at 6400RPM like the Super Stock. But not 808HP at 6400RPM like the Demon even though all these three cars have the same engine. Dodge really makes it confusing for the customers.
So then the redeye and superstock have the same horsepower as the demon only that the demon is programed to use the horsepower a bit faster?....also...so then dodge gets to choose what crank horsepower they wanna put on the cars?
I have a question about traction control and abs. Is it possible to get rid of it though pcm? I have a trackhawk and would like the option through a chip or what not to be able to put it in track mode and have it wide open. Is this possible and maybe can you make a video educating us.
Red eye is the better all around car.This is more of a one trick Pony like the Demon.Smaller brakes less handling and marginally quicker on a drag strip.Not a great trade off.If i want to go fast in a straight line i d get a used s550 18 or 19 mustang and a paxton blower,Instant 9 s for far less money.Weight is the enemy and these cars are very heavy.
@@carguy0389 que "No but we got less displacement and make power" (5.0L, 4 cams, and 32 valves) vs. (6.2L, 1 Cam, 16 Valves ) Shame it takes so many cams and valves to make that tiny bit of power completely disregarding engine design. Less displacement vs. half the parts (:
you said the differential in the Demon is much stronger than the Hellcat differential but why we see most of the time the Demon differential blowing up on the track. personally, I have never seen a Hellcat with differential issue.
only the demon has a trans brake? i thought the scat pack 1320 edition had it as well. The dodge tech that i talked to told me that the engines are underrated due to the drastically different environmental conditions throughout the country. i suspect that's only a small part of it.
Yep the Challenger 1320 has the Demon Trans Brake. Chrysler is not going to let all that R&D go to waste on one vehicle. Lol😅😅 we ain't gonna make any more Demons but we damn sure gonna get our money back on all the R&D.
azj951 very true you can find normal hellcats all day for $50k or less. Hell I got a srt8 392 for $20k flat with 45k miles and tasteful upgrades like lowering springs, 20” wheels, a Diablo tune, ceramic tints, etc.
Preston Quimby surprisingly the San Diego area. So it was a clean title with damage reported but the dealer didn’t know what the damage was on and i had an 800+ credit score with a $10k down payment so I was able to negotiate pretty good. I took a risk not knowing what the damage was but I’ve had no problems so far only replaced the shocks and tires so far and I’ve owned it for over year now.
2.62 and 3.09 rear end... Jesus Christ, I remember back in the day when everyone wanted 4.10's, a d a 3.70 rear end was considered slow lmao Fortunately, I have a 2013 R/T Plus with the optional 3.92 rear end.
Really find your videos interesting whenever you’re available hit me up I’ll give you my number wait to take a second step for my vehicle thank you I’m in Atlanta Georgia
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This guy not human. He's dodge robotic intelligence
Imagine him in a discussion with dodge 3 top engineers
That would be something to see!
He needs to talk to the Dodge engineers, we might get something mind-blowing
Finally, someone with knowledge who gives us the real deal on differences between the models. Thank You Mr. Brenton for the explanation. Damn Good.
StanTheMan, The Motor City (Detroit)
Agree
My 2022 super stock ran 10:14 @ 134 , nothing done to it , 18 inch stock tires 93 octane , and they will go 9;80 with better tires and some 100 octane mix, in 3 years less than 600 made , in 3 years !this will be the most collectible in years to come
Damn that’s a good run…I’m breaking mine in as we speak…did you have any wheel hop with yours
Great and informative video, thank you! It should be noted that however that the transbrake only ever being available on the Demon is incorrect; the 2019-2022 Dodge Challenger R/T Scat Pack 1320 also has the transbrake.
Another great informative video. Keep the coming and stay safe.
I just hope that Dodge make a Durango Hellcat Redeye. Also bring back the Dodge Magnum.
Had a original 70s challenger I agree the magnum was a bad looking mother. The challengers are cool but old ones were wide with low roofline more like a viper. New ones the roof and doors seem taller. The magnum just had the look.
Do a hellcat redeye vs gt500 video. 40 roll & 60 roll. Everyone would love to see it
Not a bad idea!
Go to I can be frank there’s a video of red eye vs Shelby gt 500
@@miguelangelescobedo4414 I don't trust those videos because throttle house did a roll race & the redeye won. Those guys race for living they aren't gonna be truthful on there builds. Think about why, why would they give the world there setup? I know Brett would get 2 completely stock cars on a tire & run them
Did you know that Ford just announced that the 2020 Shelby GT500SE version which will have 800+HP🤘
Watch stangmode with redeye vs GT500 and GT500 is clearly faster.
You totally look like a mad dodge scientist
Thanks for the great video! Ordered my Super Stock a couple days ago and should have it in 7-8 weeks. Stoked! I want the limited speed removed so what will that cost from your shop?
Awesome 👏🏾 video and explanation great channel keep up the good work.. glad your explaining about these cars very helpful.. awesome video God Bless
Thanks for the video and the info! Forza Tuning & Performance's RUclips Channel has fast become my favorite channel!
Glad you enjoy it!
Nice video brother! Also the "Trackhawk" part cracked me up XD
BTW what happened to the 1500 HP Kuwaiti Demon?
Coming soon! Its a big build!
@@ForzaTuned wow dude I'm waiting to see the red demon and hellephant demon. Do you think the hellephant demon would run low - mid 8s?
Possibly mid 8’s
@@ForzaTuned hell yeah dude I'd love to see that. You guys are just awesome.
Hey hey I've got 1 more question actually, what'll happen if you use some NoS in that same car? You think it'll break into 7s?
Chronos X not without a LOT
As always Forza Tunning & Performance, You are the best! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Appreciate it!🙌
@Forza Tuning & Performance , Breton thanks so much for your time in making these videos, It means a lot and we love them. The time it takes to work on cars and the time involved in putting these videos together is amazing! How do you sleep or do you sleep? Anyways you talk about max speed, If one had the best high speed tires what do you think the max speed you can get out of your tune? Thanks again and so glad I stumbled upon your channel! Keep up the great work and as always I cant wait till the next ;)
I want a Forza mug btw!
Another great video man, so much great information it’s amazing how knowledgeable you are on dodges.
Do you guys do upgrades like Hennessy and Saleen does ? I asked this because I’ve been in contact with Hennessy about doing their 1000 hp package around 26K with a three-year 36,000 mile warranty.
If you guys do upgrades, what is the horsepower and is there any warranty and the cost of it?
Right now we are looking for a redeye or SS in the color I want and widebody so I’m trying to figure all this upgrade out before we find it so we can go directly from the dealer to the people that are going to be doing the upgrade
Great video - Thanks Brenton!
Lol my homie lizard was trying to get his 2nd minute of fame
Another great video! Thanks for taking time to do all the research!
No problem Thank You!!!
Thanks Brenton! Great video..
Question The Redeye is what hp and tourqe with your 4-R package?
I have a GT Hause cat back with valves.
I also installed the good diff brace. I just dont see what the approximate tuned hp & Tourqe ratings are after the dyno tuning and new parts??
A
Great informative video 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Is it me or does he resembles NBA player “Matt Barns”
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Forza 🔥
Great video, learned a lot! Awesome can’t wait to see Super Stock at the tracks
You and me both!
For real
Make a video on drag pak challenger and what's the secret sauce that allows it to run it 7 seconds?
Also is it possible to make street legal car using the same components?
ok So I learned allot..wow , thanks bro you guys are amazing...thanks for sharing and love your videos....great work.
Great content as always! However the Challenger Scat Pack 1320 also came with a Transbrake.
I was going to say the same thing
Hi Brenton...in you opinion which is the better model to use as the base if you want both the Demon track performance and the Redeye top speed. Super Stock or Redeye Widebody. Dodge no longer does the 20" wheel package on the SS. thanks...when are you going to do more hellephant teardown vids?
The Super Stock is on my radar to trade up in a few years from my RT Plus Shaker. I just hope I can find one available. I think I will change out the drag radials and every day it... I agree the power is usually higher than stated, my RT Shaker Dynoed at 395 HP.
Great video !
The 1320 challenger was also the other car that came with a transbrake
That is true. Never used mine
1320Jay yeah my brother has one also. Such an amazing car man. Pretty sure that’s going to be my next purchase
Respect- very informative!
13:17 they're gonna start taking orders summer of 2000, dang these cars are from the past huh 🤣
😂😂😂
I’m looking to get a 23 super stock because I was told it has the demon engine and blower and the redeye does not. Is this correct for the 2023?
I ask because it seams like the 2020 was the same engine and blower in the SS or Redeye.
So if you were gonna drop a minimum of 70 grand to get a hellcat wide body would you suggest to just get a super stock instead?
Another great video brother!
Thanks for the visit
I love this ducking channel so much
We love you so ducking much!
@@ForzaTuned y’all are ducking awesome 😂😂
Can't wait love your show
What's your take on the new mopar Hellcrate redeye they released do you think it's the same kinda package like the previous Hellcrate and do you think its possible to it into a standard vehicle not like 1971 pre retro style. Also looking for update on that hellaphant crate video awhile back into a customers demon
amazing explanation
Thanks for a the tons of useful info, otherwise its just a guessing game.
Forza is Knowledge !! 😎
I think the challenge of 1320 came with the trans break
Glad there is a street tire option. 4 DR's doesn't make a lot of sense to me, rather do sticky Mickey"s on the rear and skinnies on the front for track use. Good job on the video, Dodge should give you the commish.
I ordered the Durango hellcat!! Taking delivery next week. I want to make it run low 10s
Bring it in!
Honest and Knowledgeable!!
Thank you!
So a wide body red eye with a tune is the same as a superstock? If not faster?
This was a GREAT VIDEO
Very helpful info
Do you have any built demons for sale black preferably? Superstock would be 2nd choice but I want you to build the shit out of it!. Thanks
Amazing video, covered everything thing. I was debating on the 3.09 gears on the redeye but I’m also debating on the super stock. Super torn about my decision
super stock 👍
What if and can you use a demon crate on a super stock or on other dodge ,Chrysler brand cars
Still love your videos
I no this video is old but you saying if I change the tires to the 20 inch tires I can go faster than 168 or do you’ll have to change it in the ecu to go faster than 168
Su cara mirando el lagarto fue épico !! Me reí mucho !!
Great video man you are on point I got a red eye brand new last year only 300 miles on it I want to send it down to you so bad man get er rippin
Good afternoon, do you need a tune to go from a 2.62 rear gear to a 3.09? Will the speedometer respond accordingly without a tune? thank you
Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't the stock redeye comes with all the same features as the demon like launch control, launch assist, and torque reserve it is just missing the special suspension and trans brake. Is the suspension on the super stock the same as the demon?
Have you seen the srt ghoul that dodge engineers came up with that speedcore end up building. Its badass it's got the hellephant engine. It's on a episode of power nation engine power
Thumbs up just for coming up with this first.
Thanks Man!
if we want to go faster than 168 in the super stock we’d have to opt for the 20” wheel package and take it in to your shop?
Why not the introduction of the Reintroduction of the Barracuda ???
Are you saying that even though the Redeye is rated at 797HP 6300RPM. But also the Redeye has 807HP at 6400RPM like the Super Stock. But not 808HP at 6400RPM like the Demon even though all these three cars have the same engine. Dodge really makes it confusing for the customers.
What's the difference between challenger hellcat redeye and challenger super stock
So then the redeye and superstock have the same horsepower as the demon only that the demon is programed to use the horsepower a bit faster?....also...so then dodge gets to choose what crank horsepower they wanna put on the cars?
I have a question about traction control and abs. Is it possible to get rid of it though pcm? I have a trackhawk and would like the option through a chip or what not to be able to put it in track mode and have it wide open. Is this possible and maybe can you make a video educating us.
You can always take governor off and do the whole dash lol
How though?
Red eye is the better all around car.This is more of a one trick Pony like the Demon.Smaller brakes less handling and marginally quicker on a drag strip.Not a great trade off.If i want to go fast in a straight line i d get a used s550 18 or 19 mustang and a paxton blower,Instant 9 s for far less money.Weight is the enemy and these cars are very heavy.
Yeah but does the s550 have a 6.2 liter v8? Nah
@@carguy0389 que "No but we got less displacement and make power" (5.0L, 4 cams, and 32 valves) vs. (6.2L, 1 Cam, 16 Valves ) Shame it takes so many cams and valves to make that tiny bit of power completely disregarding engine design. Less displacement vs. half the parts (:
@@carguy0389 Who cares?Will it win the race?Yes.
@@camirocz lmao no
@@camirocz you talking about the stand or the redeye? 😂
you said the differential in the Demon is much stronger than the Hellcat differential but why we see most of the time the Demon differential blowing up on the track. personally, I have never seen a Hellcat with differential issue.
More power, suspension not upgraded, more of them being taken to the track, etc
Some times it’s when the person has modded the demon including a tire change.
Really hope viper comes back
🤞
@@ForzaTuned rumors also Dodge Dakota midsize pickup truck and Plymouth barracuda Plymouth makes it
Wellllll explained
can I put 18" on my hellcat?
only the demon has a trans brake? i thought the scat pack 1320 edition had it as well.
The dodge tech that i talked to told me that the engines are underrated due to the drastically different environmental conditions throughout the country. i suspect that's only a small part of it.
Yep the Challenger 1320 has the Demon Trans Brake. Chrysler is not going to let all that R&D go to waste on one vehicle. Lol😅😅 we ain't gonna make any more Demons but we damn sure gonna get our money back on all the R&D.
i cant tell if my redeye has a 262 or a 309 diff... the info on my car says 262 / 309 optional.
how can i find this info?
Window sticker or part number on the top of the differential case
Wish you were back... Bret.
I feel like dodge releases so many new models, I’d be scared if I dropped $80k on a car just for it to be outdated in a year.
The nice part abt that tho is that they have a backlog of bad ass cars that just keep getting cheaper
azj951 very true you can find normal hellcats all day for $50k or less. Hell I got a srt8 392 for $20k flat with 45k miles and tasteful upgrades like lowering springs, 20” wheels, a Diablo tune, ceramic tints, etc.
chiggins yessir
@@Brikzilla where the hell did you find that
Preston Quimby surprisingly the San Diego area. So it was a clean title with damage reported but the dealer didn’t know what the damage was on and i had an 800+ credit score with a $10k down payment so I was able to negotiate pretty good. I took a risk not knowing what the damage was but I’ve had no problems so far only replaced the shocks and tires so far and I’ve owned it for over year now.
Why does every hell cat look the same though 😂😂🤦🏻♂️
Can the suspension in a redeye be tuned to do the demon weight transfer
Yes but we can make it way better than even a Demon
@@ForzaTuned How much does it cost to do the tuned suspension on a Redeye to be better than a Demon?
Basically a mini demon
I want a 2 door charger like the challenger, they have to do it sometime.
They’ll never do that
The charger is one of the best selling cars because it’s one of a kind (the only 4 door muscle car available rn) why ruin that
@@elcapo8596 they already have...
Anti comment warrior dodge does not make two door chargers anymore are you slow?
What you saw a fan made two door charger??
Just shut up bro
The challenger is basically a 2 door charger whats the point of making a 2 door charger when everyone is just gonna buy the challenger
@@seannomoney20 don't tell me this is a challenger ruclips.net/video/FqQlFVaqBxA/видео.html
Carbon fiber drive train?
Good video. But from 859 through 910 the video repeats.
What is that CF piece in the shot?
CAI
Wrong. The 2019-2020 Dodge Challenger R/T Scat Pack 1320 has a trans-brake. I own one.
The 1320 has transbrake too.
U can STREET A DEMON! LOL
I'd like to get a Redeye Charger but not if there's a chance of a Redeye Trackhawk.
That's a good point!
How fast can a gt go
It is a demon, just not in name. NUFF SAID
false
@@ForzaTuned Because Super Stock doesn't have a trans brake and the race fuel . It is still another demon without the name.
I bought one of the tickets for the dream give away and I really hope I win. I don’t have a car😔
SS IS THE WAY TO GO UNLESS YU WANT A LIMITED #
2.62 and 3.09 rear end... Jesus Christ, I remember back in the day when everyone wanted 4.10's, a d a 3.70 rear end was considered slow lmao
Fortunately, I have a 2013 R/T Plus with the optional 3.92 rear end.
bring back viper
How about a NARROWER REAR WITH FACTORY MINiTubs! Lose the plastic Quarter WideBody add on look!!! Sleeper Look!
1320 scat came with a trans break
1320 scat pack has trans brake
My 1320 challenger has a trans brake.
True
You two got 1320? Man you guys are lucky 🔥🔥🔥
Was that a baby reptile not sure what it was
My 2020 Dodge Charger scat pack has line lock
And launch control
william Rose yes it does lol
What about the hood-
Yeah...not sure why they even make a straight-body Redeye....why would you buy it
I’ve never even seen one out on the streets lmfao
Yeah I also wonder sometimes haha
Agree but we actually have one in the shop now
Really find your videos interesting whenever you’re available hit me up I’ll give you my number wait to take a second step for my vehicle thank you I’m in Atlanta Georgia
1320 has a trans take.