That is the most accurate description of Land Rover reliability I've ever heard. I myself find that hard to explain to people that have never owned a Land Rover.
The Range Rover is far more complex than 99% of all other cars. It's ultimate luxury with all the gadgets that can wade through a meter of water. It shouldn't really be surprising that more complex product can break in more ways - especially if owners don't do the required expensive maintenance.
I fell in love with the original RR when I was 10 and still really want one. Now have a RR Sport and love it. Base V6 diesel but does everything I need. Very comfy after swapping drug dealer 22 inch rims to 20 inch rims. Fantastic tow vehicle and fantastic all round. This is my 3rd LAnd Rover and I have never had reliability issue with them. Last ones I drive to 250,000 kms or so
@@WayToManyAssassins I have had the occasional issue, but nothing major. been stranded with flat battery and an alternator failure (10 years old) but these happen to any vehicle. Overall I have found them to be reliable
I sold my L322 Westminster in 2018. Best car I've ever owned. Mind-blowing in so many ways, sadly couldn't say the same for the main dealer who looked after it but hey.
The L322 TDV8 specially Facelift version was the very best ever built RR. Built to last forever. Service it well and will keep you smiling every time you get into your beauty. The worst ever built RR is the current new model. Cheap material glued together. Designed for the new young generation with university degrees and no idea about real life and the real world. They will fall for anything if you tell them it is "great and green". You wanna safe the planet? Buy a proper well maintained luxury car which is already produced, take care of it and drive it for many more years. This is called sustainability, not falling for a new electric car and scrap it in less than 5 years because it's dead. 😁
@@houseofwine7704 The 4.4 v8 Diesel sounded great when you tanked it, better than the petrol V8. The only thing I don't miss is cleaning it! Epic car though it really was! :)
@@DaveStevis I'm in the market for an L322 and it's a minefield out there. I've been looking for months to find the right one. I'd love the 4.4 TDV8, but with the war on diesels I'm not sure its the right option?
@@warrengeew I have no idea if or when the government intend on clamping down on diesels. I do however recognise that what you buy with regards to condition could drastically effect your pockets. Avoid 100k mile + examples with tow-bars and iffy service history. You want as much history as you can get your hands on. ideally Land Rover or "reliable" specialist. I would recommend taking out a good warranty as well unless your feeling lucky :)
The funniest thing with LR is that they can go in some really arsh places all around the world but the harschest place you can find is there car dealerships.
Thanks Matt. I’ve been waiting for this very video as I’m in that quandary as to what my next car should be. I’ve never owned a RR but have always wanted one and now I know it should be a late 2015 diesel V8 Vogue SE. You’ve saved me from a lot of wasted time and potential disappointment Picking the wrong one. Love your videos with your honest, knowledgable and witty thoughts. Top man.
I'm happy Land Rover didn't deviate too far off in the design / shape of the new L460 from the L405. It'll keep the L405 looking still fresh and modern for years to come.
I’ve had five Rangies and looking for my sixth which will probably be an L405 SDV8 LWB Autobiography….. they are every car you’ll ever need and such a pleasure on 600 mile road trips with loads of gear!
Hi Matt …love your channel and never miss a video..just so refreshing to hear your proper “ blood and guts “approach to car reviews . I like you am a “died in the ground “Range Rover nut. I have the same model as yours in the same trim , colour and engine …22,000 miles and have it serviced every six months my local specialist ( their top mechanic is 100 years old and needs good eyes to see through his glasses) but that experience you just do not get in main dealerships. But more to the point I have just bought a real keeper as well ….A Fuji white 2013 RRS supercharged , 20,000 miles , One owner ( A previous client of mine) it has every extra ( heated wheel , sunroof etc)and in totally as new condition it’s like it’s just come from the showroom…kept in a heated garage as part of a collection and serviced every year by Landrover. It has an exhaust modification by Landrover and sounds like angry thunder ! Not sure what that car would have been new but I paid £22,000.00 and I bloody love it. Just goes to show the quality you can get for not a great deal of money. Cheers Matt …looking forward to your next offering.
Thank Doug Demuro for the reliability concern becoming so prevalent. His 2006 RR had lots of issues that he reviewed in his videos. I've owned two and overall, haven't had too many issues, other than the air suspension which is notorious for failing. Years ago, I told the new RR service manager about it right after buying a new RR and he said that he wasn't aware of any suspension issues. Mine failed within about 3 months.
I’ve got a 2003 L322 TD6. It cost me a grand to get it through it’s mot this December just gone, but that was because the rear subframe was all rusted. Other than that (touch wood), it’s been fine. :)
I own a 2017 L405 V6 diesel - I’d have preferred the V8 for the extra luxury, but the V6 is lighter, and the engine is set further back: makes the handling better when driving fast on country roads (which the engine is plenty powerful enough for).
@@seanlovi8798 Just over a year. I drive it in Sport mode apart from on the motorway, which makes acceleration very smooth and makes up for the lower torque than the V8
This was a great video which I came across as I was starting to look for an L405 Range Rover and found it full of really sound advice. I ended up purchasing a 1 owner 2016 TDV8 Autobiography in metallic grey with ivory interior, complete main dealer service history and a massive spec. My previous vehicle was a Discovery 3 which I owned for 14 years covering 266,000 miles, it did a lot of towing with horse boxes and large trailers and saw a lot of off road use too. Yes it was not cheap to run but never let me down to the extent I could not get home or to where I was going, regular servicing was the key including a refurbished gearbox at 200,000 miles. The L405 still makes me grin like a kid in a sweet shop every time I drive it and I have had it for nearly a month now. I agree with Matt, this is the best car in the world bar none, such a privilege to own.
I don’t have extensive experience with all of the different brands in RRs class , but having had a Mercedes ML350d 2013 I can tell you right now that the RR smokes it so far as reliability is concerned. I only tolerated the ML for two years, within which, I spent a mountain of money to keep it on the road, with it braking down every three to four months. I got sick and tired of it. Now life is good with my L322. No major issues for years but I am looking after it meticulously and servicing it in good time goes a long way. I believe people saying RRs are not reliable are those too lazy or too broke to get them serviced properly and regularly. Just my two cents.
A Faraday pouch for the keys is also an option, you can get your key cloned by thieves even when out shopping, if the keys are in the pouch it blocks thieves, useful for credit cards too.
I’ve had Range Rovers for years my first being the P38. The 405 is the best by a mile. The 2015 is the one to go for……apart from the internal updates the suspension is a lot better on the later models.
We’ve got a 69 plate Range Rover velar SE R Dynamic ,excellent car , was thinking of upgrading to a vogue but really like the velar , we don’t really need anything bigger. It’s got the two touch screens in it , and trust me after a couple of weeks they are a doddle to use , it’s classy too . We love it . Totally agree with you on the reliability , we’ve owned two range rovers and a discovery sport over the last six years and never had an issue .
I live in the Middle East and have a 2013 Range Rover Sport 5.0V8 Supercharged and a 2008 LR3 (Discovery) 4.4V8 HSE (Petrol is 24p a litre mind you!!). Both awesome cars. You need to stay on top of maintenance and repairs BUT if you do they are the best cars ever (and I have driven every sort of heavy metal BMW and Mercedes you can think of and they aren't any less reliable).
I have a 2017 4.4 Vogue SE in Black with the Cirrus interior and it's almost the best car I've ever owned (CLS63 AMG in the garage ;) ). You can disable the keyless entry (but leave the keyless start enabled) by opening the drivers door, keeping the key inside and pressing the headlight button on the fob three times followed by the unlock button. Then lock the car as normal and the keyless entry is disabled so no signal relay theft without smashing a window. To set it back it's the same process, but press the lock button after the 3 presses of the headlight button. I'm happy to sacrifice keyless entry to make sure the car is still there every morning.
Hi Matt I used to fit the gear boxes on the Range Rover in the eighties at the Land Rover plant in Solihull West Midlands also drove them round there private speed road where they used to test them out ! Great memories as always Great content !!
Hi, I have been watching your videos for a while. As a result, I bought Jag Xi 3.00D then a RR l322 and now L405. I did not sell my L322 4.2 SC because I love it too much. Just want to thank you for your recommendations as I love the cars I bought because of your videos.
Hi, I rarely watch and never post anything on RUclips. I don’t even have a facebook account. But you really convinced me and I very recently bought a full size 07/2016 Range Rover Supercharged V8 Petrol, and I love it! So much so that I been contaminated by the same enthusiasm about the car. I now wanna go an by myself the previous generation, just to keep it. Something very special about these cars. When I lived in Europe, the only cars I had for years were Volvos, BMWs and Mercs, partially because of the scare propaganda about Range Rovers reliability and high running costs. I recently relocated to the middle east where the running costs and road sizes are not an issue anymore, and frankly, the amount of Range Rovers here makes me believe that there will always be good mechanics with reasonable servicing and maintenance prices. Alright, just wanted to thank you for positive, yet balanced videos about the cars pros and cons. If you wanna expand to the Middle East and/or wanna make a video with my RR when you’re here, just let me know, be more than happy to catch up. Cheers
I bought myself a facelift 2018 Range Rover Sport just before Christmas and I love it so much, I look out the window every morning and it just makes my day! The best car I’ve ever owned and driven. I’m only 27 but you’re right it does make you feel really successful. Cannot recommend them enough!! The best all round car in the world. Great video
Love the video matt as always I have a 2013 RRS autobiography 64k miles owned for 6 months , 1 month into ownership both turbos went!!!! Luckily I bought with a warranty that covered £2k of the cost but still cost me £1k on top!!! Love the car but am now worried might break again! Cars eh!
The performance is breathtaking, something I never experienced with my old P38 BMW engined 2.5 DSE, I would say it was borderline dangerous. The 4.4 TDV8 is a gem of an engine, plenty of poke and economy for the power and size.
Enjoy your report. I have a 2013 Autobiography, 3 litre diesel. have had it since 3 years old 45000miles. Shipped to New Zealand. am a retired motor man so know how to look after it. Great car only trouble the rear top tailgate refuses to close itself and is resistant to correction. Now done 70000 miles and at 76 it will stay with me for the duration. Also have 1987 XJS V12 cabriolet which is a challenge.
naaah..............FOR ME personally the L322 4.2SC/5.0SC are by far the best ones,there is something special about them good old V8 rumble thats gets me
A Faraday pouch/box is great, but when the thieves have key programming kit, access to your key signal is not important. 30 seconds to programme a key and they're off. Relocate and secure your OBD port, protect your key signal, fit an aftermarket alarm & immobiliser and go back in time to a decent steering wheel lock or other physical security. All you have to do is make your car more difficult to steal than your neighbours!
Great video. I have an L322 with 4.4 TDV8. It is fast - and I know the L405 is even faster because it is lighter. The real beauty of the V8 for me is less about the ultimate speed than it is the ludicrous ease and sophistication with which it pulls the car. If you get the engine past 2500 rpm then you are really flying. It pulls up the M40 bank at Stokenchurch and will even build speed while still in 8th gear at about 1700 rpm. And on a long and enjoyable motorway run gets between 32 and 35. And it even sounds good while doing it. Yes the fuel cost hurts with every tank. Yes the complexity of the car drives some quite high costs. But it is such a joy to drive.
Great video as always Matt. The wheel size is a compromise between style and fuel economy. On my RR Sport I got 43mpg easily on a motorway run with 20" wheels. With 21" wheels on the same run I get 38.5mpg. But I like my 21's much more than the 20's, so happily put up with the drop in mpg.
Absolutely agree with my last two, I bought on service history, Middle age related mileage in my experience a car that’s done less than 1000 miles a year can be trouble...and four matching brand tyres is also good news, both have been completely reliable
Hey, excellent video. You didn’t mention the 3.0 SDV6 HEV introduced to the line up in early 2013. And the D300, D350 both MHEV. Or the P400e. I’ve had my MY14 Hybrid diesel Range Rover for 5 years and is excellent. Having driven the D350 the in line 6 cylinder ingenium engine is a worthy successor to the V6 diesels delivery SDV8 performance and greater economy. Lastly, the P400e for the BiK.
Discovered your channel before Christmas. Perfectly happy with current car. Watched some L405 vids you'd done. By the 9th Jan I'd swapped our M140i for an L405. Very happy. Had a couple of L322's 6+ years ago so not a complete stranger. SDV8 Vogue SE, ivory on black, 63 reg car, 60k miles, 1 owner with full LR history. Great vehicle and another great video.
We own a 2016 Range Rover sport sdv8. Best road trip car ever, it’s also a good car around town and even better on the highway, such a great engine too.
Hi Matt, another grand video! Looking forward to the next one already 👍🏻. I appreciate your love for the RR, I too have the same love and want. Your comments on reliability….. I get where your coming from, I do, but the figures do not lie, all reliability surveys carried out place LR at the bottom. I currently own a MY19 Discovery 5 HSE Lux and it’s been back and forth to the dealership 8 times in two years for niggly problems, mainly electrical. They do suffer more issues in my experience. I had a RRS some years back now, it was around 3 years old and was also grief, full of electrical gremlins. I’ve dipped my toe back into owning a JLR product again and I honestly feel nothing has changed. They are great cars, from defender to RR but are hassle, owning one out of warranty is a no no! I’m actually now going back to a German brand again, I know they are not your thing but this will be my third Q7, yes I’m chopping my D5 for a 2020 model Q7. They have never let me down and been solid cars. I will miss the D5 but I won’t miss the “will everything work this time when I start it up”.? Your love for the RR will always make you defend the brand and model, I get it, but they are a gamble to own that’s all I’m saying. Love all the reviews by the way, I have to watch them even if it’s a car I’ve no interest in… they are quality keep ‘em coming 👌🏻
This is the best comment to this video of all! No matter how much we love this brand, the figures and videos dont lie. There are true stories of Engine lights turning on a few minutes or miles after picking the car brand new at dealer. The oil dilution problem with 2.0 diesel engines on Evoque, ... and yet, this is my and many others most loved car brand ❤️
The best security feature ever is installing a ghost immobilizer. It's around 350 pounds. It adds a password to the car among other things. So without entering the password you cannot start the car. You can give someone the keys to the car and they still won't be able to start it without the password
Great car and another great vid. Had a L322 TDV8 it was 18 months old when I bought it. I kept it for 4 years the longest I’ve ever had a car for. Best all round car on the road.
Agree. A lot to say about these as a long term Range Rover owner. Yes, they are very reliable, actually, but service them etc. I am currently running a facelift and they have better security but I still use a Theft Block style security for peace of mind. I bought my last two from new and my current one is AB with options. Autobiography is a waste but also a necessity to get full value! Weird. Regardless, my must-haves for newer models are soft close doors, Signature 1700 hifi, remote cabin pre-heat, head-up display, blind spot assist. I have hot stone massage and pillows on mine, ordered 2 extra for front seats, and they are a highly recommended way to waste money, so beautifully comfortable. Finally, the P400e with weedy 2.0 and electric is actually very quick albeit not very economical, I love it and I hate diesel so… a no-brainer for me. The newest Range Rover has a 3.0 PHEV hybrid, so a better option, I think.
I’ve just bought a 2017 autobiography. It’s stunning. A step up from the 2014 vogue se I had some years ago but the most important addition I’ve had make is fitting a ghost 2 immobiliser. At least now I know for sure it will be where I left it.
I have an L322 4.4TDV8. Great engines, albeit the turbo drain design fault which was corrected on the SDV8 in the L405. In the L405, definitely the engine to have is the 4.4 SDV8 however, in the L494 Sport, I think the best engine is the 3.0 SDV6. That car is about a sportier drive and because the 4.4 is so heavy, it's around 200kg more than the 3L. Up front, that weight makes a difference to the handling, which really doesn't matter so much on the big Range Rover. Another thing to say is that you need to keep BOTH of your keys in a Faraday box/case because otherwise, thieves will just be able to boost the signal from your spare key and still get into the car. The other system I would try is Ghost - no extra remotes or anything - just some internal buttons to press before the car can start, meaning even if they access the KVM through OBD port, they still won't be able to start the car. I have a 2020 L494 Sport Autobiography at the moment, which I have reviewed. I thought the climate touch screens would be gimmicks but they're really not.
Great video again. Informative, interesting and funny. I doubt I’ll ever own a RR but would be my choice if I got the chance. Along with a Bentley GTC on the drive…sorted! 😉
Yup. I'm another very satisfied RR owner now on my fourth. I have to admit though that the new one is a Velar D300 V6 HSE but in no way a disappointment, quite the contrary in fact. None of the RR's I've owned have ever let me down, biggest job was a clutch on my 1998 P38.
I’ll stick to our 2017 Q7 Quattro it’s been faultless that Range Rover we had nearly broke us never again, thankfully I’m a mechanic so I was able to do the work myself on the RR 4.4 TDV8 is the Range Rover to go for according to a fellow RR mechanic….
Whereas my 2016 Q7 has had nothing but woes over my 2 years ownership, don't get me wrong, it's a great car but 2 new wheel bearings, coolant leaking, towbar fault(not covered by warranty apparently and they want 4k for a replacement!) electrical issues with the rear right door, and I would certainly say I look after it, full dealer history, only 60k miles now. Just goes to show, doesn't matter what car you buy, it's more luck than anything, the 2011 XJ I had before it, one of my favourite cars of all time, was near enough faultless.
As someone who has recently got a bad back I'd love a nice range rover. But as I live in the Netherlands now I just can't stomach the €3100 road tax per year for one here. Its crazyy
4.4 V8 Autobiography LWB would be my choice. Took a lot of convincing for my grandad to get a V8 model after decades of owning v6 s classes but very much worth it 😍
Wheel size on this or any vehicle. Bigger means flashy and smaller means practical. If your RR is to love, polish, lick and cherish, then 20 or 22s. If you want to go up curbs or (gasp) do some green lanes, then 18s and high profile tyres are your man. The reliability image may be impossible to change given how deeply ingrained it is in popular culture.
got a 2017 4.4sdv8 vouge with good spec heated and cooled seats front and rear masage seats opening panaramic sunroof alston headliner deployable tow bar and more
Oh you bad, bad man...great video. I parted company with my L322 Vogue SE just before Covid. Yes, the ERG valves went, the hose to the turbo split, the air suspension failed, and the cooling unit on the driver seat went, but I loved that car. The €2350 per year road tax was a bummer but I routinely got 35-38 mpg and nothing drove like it'd the drive from Ireland to the north of Scotland was effortless. I miss it so much that I'm looking for another but this time an L405.
I live in Berlin where you can consider buying a Range Rover a potential donation to the Caucasus. Even if they're not stolen entirely, chances are that parts of the outer driver door panel have been cut out trying to get access to deactivate the locking system. Replacing a driver's door in the matching paint with all its fittings and switches costs in excess of 10,000 € - which is why it has become quite difficult to get these models insured against theft.
Yes, I did have to replace a thermostat on my 2010 RX350 at 142,000 miles - its only repair so far and it's still on its original struts. I know a RR is faster and has better suspension, but when I drive a round trip of 600 miles to go skiing six times a year, I'm relaxing on cruise control, so performance is irrelevant. I know it won't let me down and it handles the snow and ice just fine. It will easily do 300,000 miles without major problems which is worth more than the label on an unreliable piece of junk.
Hi Matt, In regards to the issue of car theft you can have the keyless range reduced to say only a meter or so. Or turn the keyless feature off completely,
My uncle and now my sister has one, I said I'd never ever drive one. Seeing and being drove in one I have to say I've definitely changed my mind or should I say its changed my mind. There is definitely something in the whole "it makes you feel successful" even when you're not quiet there yet lol🤪
I’ve never liked new Hang Overs but 10 years later I like them. Biggest issue in my area is each morning you’ll wake up and look out the curtains wondering if it is still there, once you’ve passed that you jump into it and wonder what it will cost you that day. For all their prowess they are way more than anyone needs.. they are limos that will never go track batching even though they are overly capable. Aussies have it right, take LR into the outback but use a Toyota if you want to come back. If you love it you do, if not………. Wish I had the money to not only run one but have.a spare as well.
I'm in the US & in the market for an L405, I want a V8 & I'm in Texas just like your video said LoL... after watching your video it will be the Supercharged 5.0. Thank you!!
In my opinion basic controls suchs as aircon or heated seat adjustments should always be manual buttons rather than touch screen type because touch screens always require more attention and might not follow your commands as well as manual ones and for me adjusting the basics is something you should be able to do while following the traffic etc
Get yourself a defender key pouch. They are only £5 for two and you can use them out and about. Blocks the signal no problem. Autocar recommended. I put my key on that as soon as I get in the house and my spare keys are in the other one
As always really enjoyed your vid. Like you, I’m committed to the Land Rover brand. Currently on my fourth Range Rover which is a 2021 that I ordered 1 year ago. I’ve never had problems with any of my RR’s and really love them. No SUV like them. The other day a guy saw me get in my RR (which is the blue one you showed in the vid) and felt the need to warn me that once the warranty was up it would fall apart like his wife’s did. After further discussion they did not have it regularly serviced and never serviced the gearbox so we’re shocked and angry when they had transmission problems. They fixed it but decided to trade it in for a more reliable SUV such as an Audi Q7
i had an old efi vogue f reg converted to lpg. bullet proof till rot got to it .bought with 100.000 miles stuck 80 k on it.only had get water pump replaced.entire time i owned it.
Love the review... This is exactly what I wanted to know. Been looking at RR and Jaguars as a replacement for my current XJ8 and was hoping to find just this type of info about the RRs. Thanks !
Excellent analysis of such a fantastic automobile. Completely concur with your assessment of the reliability issue. Prior to 2010, RR did have issues, but they have overcome them to provide a well engineered marvel. Beauty, style, and performance. The triumvirate of the auto world.
I find it worth mentioning that only in the model years until late 2015, you could actually open the pano-roof. All 2016 model just have a seamless pano-roof but cant open them.
I'm in the middle between a full-size supercharged V8 Range Rover and a Porsche Cayenne Turbo S E-Hybrid. Both cars have their own superiorities, Range Rover is a posh and a comfortable car. Porsche Cayenne on the other hand is sporty, has wider tyres, is hybrid so you can run it at low cost in the town, but they blimey ask for quids for literally everything. I've tested one in the weekend, it even didn't have the double insulated glass in its highest trim level. Range Rover Autobiography has it all, it comes with all the bells and whistles, no need to worry about. To someone coming from S Class, I believe RR is still the only comparable vehicle to do miles with. People say Rolls Royce and Bentley are options, but they're ridicilously overpriced, plus something you didn't mention, you won't do thousands of miles on them. I'll probably stick to the Cayenne just because it's sporty and makes me giggle, has 480mm 8-piston ceramic brakes in front, but I confess the Range Rover is the only SUV competitor to the S Class. Not even GLS is at this level, that interior is absolutely gorgeous. S Class is nowhere practical. This might be the best car, really.
I have never own one but been thinking about it and have always Heard they’re the most unreliable cars ever. But I will say they are absolutely beautiful.
Hi Matt- thanks for vlog, I'm gonna get myself one this summer in the UK when I can travel over from Alicante, re; reliability I had a Spanish reg Shogun for 14 years, 3 years in ... the airbag controller went- €600, 4 years in the diesel pump blocked up- €700, then it failed again while I was over in the UK later that year- recovery fee plus repair at the main dealer, finally the factory GPS antenna packed up at which point I sold it when it was 17 years old, I've never had an RR but I now love the look of them especially the modern slitty headlights, I can't decide which model yet but I'll definitely give you a shout when my dividend pays out, cheers !
I’m loving you’re the walking Range Rover Encyclopaedic Matt - I’m usually feeling as the worlds only Range Rover brand ambassador- as I love them. ❤️the 4.4 SDV8 is lovely to drive 👌I’m going to watch the rest of your video now buddy
My friends just got a 2018 5L V8 Supercharged Autobiography, to replace their 2008 Autobiography. Today is the big day for me... I get to drive it for the first time (they enjoy a few glasses of wine with Sunday lunch, so who am I to say no to driving us home as I don't drink?)... To say I am beyond excited is an understatement... Almost to the levels of your Meg Ryan moment 🤪
I have switched off the keyless entry option. I don’t miss it. Don’t expect to find out how to do this in the owners handbook. For some reason Land Rover keep it a secret. I found out how to through the Powerful UK You Tube channel.
This was absolute gold! Thank you fro the great info. Nice to hear someone speaking so highly about them after so many slag off videos. Autotrader saved search updated!!
Have to say the L405 still looks so fresh to this day….love them. Thanks for the info about the late 2015 models, will keep that in mind on future searches. Love my RR sport but the big daddy has to be my next purchase.
Car theves also knew where the tracker is fitted as it's in the same place on every RR. Land Rover Specialists down the road from us the owner had his brand new RR knicked off his forecourt in front of his eyes. Managed to track it too Essesx where they found the tracker box and rest of the car was picked up in the back of lorry in bits on it's way past Birmingham!!!
Totally agree, you know nearly as much about Range Rovers as I do 🤣. We are on number four and our first L405, not as reliable as the L322 we had but apparently they get better 2016 onwards, some of the tailgate parts have four or five part number revisions!! Loads of things to check if you are buying but my advice is buy the cheapest one you can find at Land Rover as it comes with at least one year of warranty!! Worth it weight in gold. Please don't buy a vogue, they don't have soft close doors and it ruins the car. We will never be without a Range Rover as long as our Bank account can stand it, they are the Swiss army knifes of cars, you really don't need anything else
@@HighPeakAutos How funny, he must be a top bloke👍. Yep it ruins the Vogue I think they have gone away from that on the L460. Mine is the Autobiography and was the demonstrator so has every toy available in 2014 difficult to downgrade after that. Keep up the good work, you are pretty much the only person that sticks up for Land Rover
Brilliant assessment. Much appreciated on your insight as a avid Range Rover user. Spot on the reliability aspect. I'm not sure if the theft box is 100% secure.... Best is to install a physical deterrent like a steering lock in addition.
I have a 2008 Range Rover Sport Supercharged. I’m currently at 293,000 + miles. I agree nothing really rides like a RR. My dream is to go big on my next one. When I bought my RR is had 42K miles.
Great advise and review HPA ! defiantly if buying L405 you need to get a one owner preferably with say under 15k - 25k miles on clock with books service history to minimise maintenance issues or breakages . You see so many with moderate to high milage examples where owners remarkably haven't ever bothered to service on time or when required or maybe you just the first service or second, on the books then they seem not to bother its really common pattern you see when making inquiries with these RR L405 and newer , then the used cars people acquiring these used vehicle with sketchy and non existence service records acquired, usually from a trade in by the sloppy previous owner end up in the used licensed car yards and unfortunately , some cars dealers pretend all good nothing see here or to worry about to the inexperienced buyer who then complains later of reliably issues . Defiantly HPA prevention is much better than cure, especially with how you mention a change of transmission fluid and filter . People love petrol in AUS, In Australia petrol is much cheaper compared to uk/europe but still costs a bit more than usa or UAE . In Aus expect to pay for petrol around 85p per litre for E 10, 90p 95 ron and 95-110 p for 98 Ron at the the bottom of the fortnightly price cycles. Best engine is to go the V8 SC, super charged Petrol for sure as it is much faster and quieter vr's diesel engines variants .Diesel fuel is more expensive in Aus now than petrol , diesel cost more to fix and is still noisy even with 2020's tech.
I have had a number of Land Rover/Range Rovers over the years starting in 2007. My first 2005 LR 3 (Discovery 3) was beyond reliable and still going strong with its new owner at 170K miles. I fell victim to the timing chain jump (faulty guides) in a 2013 Sport which was my only real horror story next to overheating on a '98 Disco 1. But from the LR3, a 98' P38 all the way to my 2013 L405 RR Supercharged the one common theme is electrical issues and "soft code" warning lights. At some point it seems most of them experience this. It is a shame because there is nothing like driving a Range Rover full-size.
It’s mad I use to hate the Land Rover brand but I’ve been liking them recently, a lot of research and I think I’m going to buy one. Great videos as always mate love your channel
After watching all of your RR videos and having had four L322 my wife bought a 2019 L405 Autobiography 4.4 diesel. It's a lovely car with loads of tech (and massage-ing seats) but it's not a real RR. My 2012 L322 is a real RR. The L322 is chunkier and more "uppey" and less a bland eurobox SUV.
I think I said this in another video but I think the L322 is a better Range Rover but the L405 is a better luxury car. I love my 5.0 L405. It’s the best
I've only driven one and it was recently. Unfortunately it was a short drive but on the upside it was a 70 plate. 3 litre diesel pulls along nicely I wouldn't want to daily one on small streets of Birmingham but soo nice on the dual carriageway. Had high expectations and wasn't disappointed considering how long that model has been around
Well, I'm about four days into RR ownership. 2008 2.7 V6. Fastidiously documented maintenance history. 92,000 miles. I've already added over 800 to that. Lovely on the motorway and fits into the Isle of Man landscape perfectly. All that said, I'm already eyeing-up the 405. This is going to get expensive. :-)
That is the most accurate description of Land Rover reliability I've ever heard. I myself find that hard to explain to people that have never owned a Land Rover.
The Range Rover is far more complex than 99% of all other cars. It's ultimate luxury with all the gadgets that can wade through a meter of water. It shouldn't really be surprising that more complex product can break in more ways - especially if owners don't do the required expensive maintenance.
I fell in love with the original RR when I was 10 and still really want one. Now have a RR Sport and love it. Base V6 diesel but does everything I need. Very comfy after swapping drug dealer 22 inch rims to 20 inch rims. Fantastic tow vehicle and fantastic all round. This is my 3rd LAnd Rover and I have never had reliability issue with them. Last ones I drive to 250,000 kms or so
Never reliability issue with them? Doubt that.
Even Toyotas break down eventually.
@@WayToManyAssassins I have had the occasional issue, but nothing major. been stranded with flat battery and an alternator failure (10 years old) but these happen to any vehicle. Overall I have found them to be reliable
I have a 2016 L405 with the 5.0 liter V8 and absolutely love it. Personally the 2017, is the best year IMO due to the larger navigation screen.
Your right I have a 14 L405 SC v8 and the sceeens lagy. Definitely upgrading it soon. Engines what matters anyways but the screens lagy
I just got a used 2017 range rover v6 3.0l supercharged hse n I love it
I sold my L322 Westminster in 2018. Best car I've ever owned. Mind-blowing in so many ways, sadly couldn't say the same for the main dealer who looked after it but hey.
The L322 TDV8 specially Facelift version was the very best ever built RR. Built to last forever. Service it well and will keep you smiling every time you get into your beauty. The worst ever built RR is the current new model. Cheap material glued together. Designed for the new young generation with university degrees and no idea about real life and the real world. They will fall for anything if you tell them it is "great and green". You wanna safe the planet? Buy a proper well maintained luxury car which is already produced, take care of it and drive it for many more years. This is called sustainability, not falling for a new electric car and scrap it in less than 5 years because it's dead. 😁
@@houseofwine7704 The 4.4 v8 Diesel sounded great when you tanked it, better than the petrol V8. The only thing I don't miss is cleaning it! Epic car though it really was! :)
@@DaveStevis I'm in the market for an L322 and it's a minefield out there. I've been looking for months to find the right one. I'd love the 4.4 TDV8, but with the war on diesels I'm not sure its the right option?
@@warrengeew I have no idea if or when the government intend on clamping down on diesels. I do however recognise that what you buy with regards to condition could drastically effect your pockets. Avoid 100k mile + examples with tow-bars and iffy service history. You want as much history as you can get your hands on. ideally Land Rover or "reliable" specialist. I would recommend taking out a good warranty as well unless your feeling lucky :)
The funniest thing with LR is that they can go in some really arsh places all around the world but the harschest place you can find is there car dealerships.
Thanks Matt. I’ve been waiting for this very video as I’m in that quandary as to what my next car should be. I’ve never owned a RR but have always wanted one and now I know it should be a late 2015 diesel V8 Vogue SE. You’ve saved me from a lot of wasted time and potential disappointment
Picking the wrong one. Love your videos with your honest, knowledgable and witty thoughts. Top man.
I'm happy Land Rover didn't deviate too far off in the design / shape of the new L460 from the L405. It'll keep the L405 looking still fresh and modern for years to come.
I’ve had five Rangies and looking for my sixth which will probably be an L405 SDV8 LWB Autobiography….. they are every car you’ll ever need and such a pleasure on 600 mile road trips with loads of gear!
Hi Matt …love your channel and never miss a video..just so refreshing to hear your proper “ blood and guts “approach to car reviews .
I like you am a “died in the ground “Range Rover nut.
I have the same model as yours in the same trim , colour and engine …22,000 miles and have it serviced every six months my local specialist ( their top mechanic is 100 years old and needs good eyes to see through his glasses) but that experience you just do not get in main dealerships.
But more to the point I have just bought a real keeper as well ….A Fuji white 2013 RRS supercharged , 20,000 miles , One owner ( A previous client of mine) it has every extra ( heated wheel , sunroof etc)and in totally as new condition it’s like it’s just come from the showroom…kept in a heated garage as part of a collection and serviced every year by Landrover. It has an exhaust modification by Landrover and sounds like angry thunder !
Not sure what that car would have been new but I paid £22,000.00 and I bloody love it.
Just goes to show the quality you can get for not a great deal of money.
Cheers Matt …looking forward to your next offering.
That sounds like a great buy! Welndone
Thank Doug Demuro for the reliability concern becoming so prevalent. His 2006 RR had lots of issues that he reviewed in his videos. I've owned two and overall, haven't had too many issues, other than the air suspension which is notorious for failing. Years ago, I told the new RR service manager about it right after buying a new RR and he said that he wasn't aware of any suspension issues. Mine failed within about 3 months.
I’ve got a 2003 L322 TD6. It cost me a grand to get it through it’s mot this December just gone, but that was because the rear subframe was all rusted. Other than that (touch wood), it’s been fine. :)
I think Scotty Kilmer is just as much to blame as DD.
Haha they all have plausible deniability, vexes me
Doug did nothing. People moaned about them before his videos. The air suspension only fails if you don't maintain it properly.
@@christoguichard4311 Scotty kilmer is definitely the one to blame
I own a 2017 L405 V6 diesel - I’d have preferred the V8 for the extra luxury, but the V6 is lighter, and the engine is set further back: makes the handling better when driving fast on country roads (which the engine is plenty powerful enough for).
How long have you had it
@@seanlovi8798 Just over a year. I drive it in Sport mode apart from on the motorway, which makes acceleration very smooth and makes up for the lower torque than the V8
Is it still running fine just bought one
This was a great video which I came across as I was starting to look for an L405 Range Rover and found it full of really sound advice. I ended up purchasing a 1 owner 2016 TDV8 Autobiography in metallic grey with ivory interior, complete main dealer service history and a massive spec. My previous vehicle was a Discovery 3 which I owned for 14 years covering 266,000 miles, it did a lot of towing with horse boxes and large trailers and saw a lot of off road use too. Yes it was not cheap to run but never let me down to the extent I could not get home or to where I was going, regular servicing was the key including a refurbished gearbox at 200,000 miles. The L405 still makes me grin like a kid in a sweet shop every time I drive it and I have had it for nearly a month now. I agree with Matt, this is the best car in the world bar none, such a privilege to own.
I don’t have extensive experience with all of the different brands in RRs class , but having had a Mercedes ML350d 2013 I can tell you right now that the RR smokes it so far as reliability is concerned. I only tolerated the ML for two years, within which, I spent a mountain of money to keep it on the road, with it braking down every three to four months. I got sick and tired of it. Now life is good with my L322. No major issues for years but I am looking after it meticulously and servicing it in good time goes a long way. I believe people saying RRs are not reliable are those too lazy or too broke to get them serviced properly and regularly. Just my two cents.
Stock all the way Matt. No blackened out windows or the vulgar black wheels which looks tacky as hell I'd definitely have one in a car collection 😍
A Faraday pouch for the keys is also an option, you can get your key cloned by thieves even when out shopping, if the keys are in the pouch it blocks thieves, useful for credit cards too.
I don’t think key cloning is used on LRs anymore. They get access via obd. You can disable proximity unlock thingy too
I’ve had Range Rovers for years my first being the P38. The 405 is the best by a mile. The 2015 is the one to go for……apart from the internal updates the suspension is a lot better on the later models.
Pressed like before I've even watched the video! Love your content mate, keep it going :)
Much appreciated!
I pressed like when I saw this com comment
We’ve got a 69 plate Range Rover velar SE R Dynamic ,excellent car , was thinking of upgrading to a vogue but really like the velar , we don’t really need anything bigger. It’s got the two touch screens in it , and trust me after a couple of weeks they are a doddle to use , it’s classy too . We love it . Totally agree with you on the reliability , we’ve owned two range rovers and a discovery sport over the last six years and never had an issue .
I live in the Middle East and have a 2013 Range Rover Sport 5.0V8 Supercharged and a 2008 LR3 (Discovery) 4.4V8 HSE (Petrol is 24p a litre mind you!!). Both awesome cars. You need to stay on top of maintenance and repairs BUT if you do they are the best cars ever (and I have driven every sort of heavy metal BMW and Mercedes you can think of and they aren't any less reliable).
Turn the keyless entry off and always use the double lock function helps against theft as well.
I have a 2017 4.4 Vogue SE in Black with the Cirrus interior and it's almost the best car I've ever owned (CLS63 AMG in the garage ;) ). You can disable the keyless entry (but leave the keyless start enabled) by opening the drivers door, keeping the key inside and pressing the headlight button on the fob three times followed by the unlock button. Then lock the car as normal and the keyless entry is disabled so no signal relay theft without smashing a window. To set it back it's the same process, but press the lock button after the 3 presses of the headlight button. I'm happy to sacrifice keyless entry to make sure the car is still there every morning.
Hi Matt I used to fit the gear boxes on the Range Rover in the eighties at the Land Rover plant in Solihull West Midlands also drove them round there private speed road where they used to test them out ! Great memories as always Great content !!
Was that true about some guy working there who was stealing parts and building his own Range Rover at home
My dad was your boss. He was the Executive Dir for 20 years before he retired.
Jaguar also have the same bad press I had my XF s for 4 yrs and it’s cost me 600 a year including servicing it’s been exceptionally reliable
Hi, I have been watching your videos for a while. As a result, I bought Jag Xi 3.00D then a RR l322 and now L405. I did not sell my L322 4.2 SC because I love it too much. Just want to thank you for your recommendations as I
love the cars I bought because of your videos.
Very nice!
Hi,
I rarely watch and never post anything on RUclips. I don’t even have a facebook account.
But you really convinced me and I very recently bought a full size 07/2016 Range Rover Supercharged V8 Petrol, and I love it!
So much so that I been contaminated by the same enthusiasm about the car. I now wanna go an by myself the previous generation, just to keep it.
Something very special about these cars.
When I lived in Europe, the only cars I had for years were Volvos, BMWs and Mercs, partially because of the scare propaganda about Range Rovers reliability and high running costs.
I recently relocated to the middle east where the running costs and road sizes are not an issue anymore, and frankly, the amount of Range Rovers here makes me believe that there will always be good mechanics with reasonable servicing and maintenance prices.
Alright, just wanted to thank you for positive, yet balanced videos about the cars pros and cons.
If you wanna expand to the Middle East and/or wanna make a video with my RR when you’re here, just let me know, be more than happy to catch up.
Cheers
I bought myself a facelift 2018 Range Rover Sport just before Christmas and I love it so much, I look out the window every morning and it just makes my day! The best car I’ve ever owned and driven. I’m only 27 but you’re right it does make you feel really successful. Cannot recommend them enough!! The best all round car in the world. Great video
Love the video matt as always
I have a 2013 RRS autobiography 64k miles owned for 6 months , 1 month into ownership both turbos went!!!! Luckily I bought with a warranty that covered £2k of the cost but still cost me £1k on top!!!
Love the car but am now worried might break again!
Cars eh!
The performance is breathtaking, something I never experienced with my old P38 BMW engined 2.5 DSE, I would say it was borderline dangerous. The 4.4 TDV8 is a gem of an engine, plenty of poke and economy for the power and size.
The P38 diesel was dangerous youre right.
@@HighPeakAutos
It was a great engine in a 3 or 5 Series, smooth and sounded good. In the P38 it was gutless with only 134bhp.
@@paulie-Gualtieri. a friend had one and told me it wouldn't have been able to pull the skin back on his knob.....apologies for the rudeness ...
@@allosaurusfragilis7782
There's a few of those wouldn't pull a sayings.
Enjoy your report. I have a 2013 Autobiography, 3 litre diesel. have had it since 3 years old 45000miles. Shipped to New Zealand. am a retired motor man so know how to look after it. Great car only trouble the rear top tailgate refuses to close itself and is resistant to correction. Now done 70000 miles and at 76 it will stay with me for the duration. Also have 1987 XJS V12 cabriolet which is a challenge.
A biscuit tin can operate as an adequate Faraday cage.
Also, you can quite easily disable keyless entry so you need to push the buttons to get in.
naaah..............FOR ME personally the L322 4.2SC/5.0SC are by far the best ones,there is something special about them good old V8 rumble thats gets me
Agree with every word.
I am fortunate to own a 2019 autobiography and it is superb - the best car I’ve ever owned.
A Faraday pouch/box is great, but when the thieves have key programming kit, access to your key signal is not important. 30 seconds to programme a key and they're off. Relocate and secure your OBD port, protect your key signal, fit an aftermarket alarm & immobiliser and go back in time to a decent steering wheel lock or other physical security. All you have to do is make your car more difficult to steal than your neighbours!
Great video. I have an L322 with 4.4 TDV8. It is fast - and I know the L405 is even faster because it is lighter. The real beauty of the V8 for me is less about the ultimate speed than it is the ludicrous ease and sophistication with which it pulls the car. If you get the engine past 2500 rpm then you are really flying. It pulls up the M40 bank at Stokenchurch and will even build speed while still in 8th gear at about 1700 rpm. And on a long and enjoyable motorway run gets between 32 and 35. And it even sounds good while doing it. Yes the fuel cost hurts with every tank. Yes the complexity of the car drives some quite high costs. But it is such a joy to drive.
I totally agree
Great video as always Matt. The wheel size is a compromise between style and fuel economy. On my RR Sport I got 43mpg easily on a motorway run with 20" wheels. With 21" wheels on the same run I get 38.5mpg. But I like my 21's much more than the 20's, so happily put up with the drop in mpg.
Absolutely agree with my last two, I bought on service history, Middle age related mileage in my experience a car that’s done less than 1000 miles a year can be trouble...and four matching brand tyres is also good news, both have been completely reliable
Hey, excellent video. You didn’t mention the 3.0 SDV6 HEV introduced to the line up in early 2013. And the D300, D350 both MHEV. Or the P400e. I’ve had my MY14 Hybrid diesel Range Rover for 5 years and is excellent. Having driven the D350 the in line 6 cylinder ingenium engine is a worthy successor to the V6 diesels delivery SDV8 performance and greater economy. Lastly, the P400e for the BiK.
Discovered your channel before Christmas. Perfectly happy with current car. Watched some L405 vids you'd done. By the 9th Jan I'd swapped our M140i for an L405. Very happy. Had a couple of L322's 6+ years ago so not a complete stranger. SDV8 Vogue SE, ivory on black, 63 reg car, 60k miles, 1 owner with full LR history. Great vehicle and another great video.
We own a 2016 Range Rover sport sdv8. Best road trip car ever, it’s also a good car around town and even better on the highway, such a great engine too.
Just bought a 2020 Autobiography LWB with the 525 HP V8 and its amazing. Close to rolls Royce för 20% of the price. Great Cars!
Still don't know why I don't forward to skip parts in your reviews.........your great my friend 🤝
Hi Matt, another grand video! Looking forward to the next one already 👍🏻. I appreciate your love for the RR, I too have the same love and want. Your comments on reliability….. I get where your coming from, I do, but the figures do not lie, all reliability surveys carried out place LR at the bottom. I currently own a MY19 Discovery 5 HSE Lux and it’s been back and forth to the dealership 8 times in two years for niggly problems, mainly electrical. They do suffer more issues in my experience. I had a RRS some years back now, it was around 3 years old and was also grief, full of electrical gremlins. I’ve dipped my toe back into owning a JLR product again and I honestly feel nothing has changed. They are great cars, from defender to RR but are hassle, owning one out of warranty is a no no! I’m actually now going back to a German brand again, I know they are not your thing but this will be my third Q7, yes I’m chopping my D5 for a 2020 model Q7. They have never let me down and been solid cars. I will miss the D5 but I won’t miss the “will everything work this time when I start it up”.? Your love for the RR will always make you defend the brand and model, I get it, but they are a gamble to own that’s all I’m saying.
Love all the reviews by the way, I have to watch them even if it’s a car I’ve no interest in… they are quality keep ‘em coming 👌🏻
This is the best comment to this video of all! No matter how much we love this brand, the figures and videos dont lie. There are true stories of Engine lights turning on a few minutes or miles after picking the car brand new at dealer. The oil dilution problem with 2.0 diesel engines on Evoque, ... and yet, this is my and many others most loved car brand ❤️
The best security feature ever is installing a ghost immobilizer. It's around 350 pounds. It adds a password to the car among other things. So without entering the password you cannot start the car. You can give someone the keys to the car and they still won't be able to start it without the password
Great car and another great vid. Had a L322 TDV8 it was 18 months old when I bought it. I kept it for 4 years the longest I’ve ever had a car for. Best all round car on the road.
Very nice!
Agree. A lot to say about these as a long term Range Rover owner. Yes, they are very reliable, actually, but service them etc. I am currently running a facelift and they have better security but I still use a Theft Block style security for peace of mind. I bought my last two from new and my current one is AB with options. Autobiography is a waste but also a necessity to get full value! Weird. Regardless, my must-haves for newer models are soft close doors, Signature 1700 hifi, remote cabin pre-heat, head-up display, blind spot assist. I have hot stone massage and pillows on mine, ordered 2 extra for front seats, and they are a highly recommended way to waste money, so beautifully comfortable. Finally, the P400e with weedy 2.0 and electric is actually very quick albeit not very economical, I love it and I hate diesel so… a no-brainer for me. The newest Range Rover has a 3.0 PHEV hybrid, so a better option, I think.
I’ve just bought a 2017 autobiography. It’s stunning. A step up from the 2014 vogue se I had some years ago but the most important addition I’ve had make is fitting a ghost 2 immobiliser. At least now I know for sure it will be where I left it.
I have an L322 4.4TDV8. Great engines, albeit the turbo drain design fault which was corrected on the SDV8 in the L405.
In the L405, definitely the engine to have is the 4.4 SDV8 however, in the L494 Sport, I think the best engine is the 3.0 SDV6. That car is about a sportier drive and because the 4.4 is so heavy, it's around 200kg more than the 3L. Up front, that weight makes a difference to the handling, which really doesn't matter so much on the big Range Rover.
Another thing to say is that you need to keep BOTH of your keys in a Faraday box/case because otherwise, thieves will just be able to boost the signal from your spare key and still get into the car. The other system I would try is Ghost - no extra remotes or anything - just some internal buttons to press before the car can start, meaning even if they access the KVM through OBD port, they still won't be able to start the car.
I have a 2020 L494 Sport Autobiography at the moment, which I have reviewed. I thought the climate touch screens would be gimmicks but they're really not.
Great video again. Informative, interesting and funny. I doubt I’ll ever own a RR but would be my choice if I got the chance. Along with a Bentley GTC on the drive…sorted! 😉
Yup. I'm another very satisfied RR owner now on my fourth. I have to admit though that the new one is a Velar D300 V6 HSE but in no way a disappointment, quite the contrary in fact. None of the RR's I've owned have ever let me down, biggest job was a clutch on my 1998 P38.
I’ll stick to our 2017 Q7 Quattro it’s been faultless that Range Rover we had nearly broke us never again, thankfully I’m a mechanic so I was able to do the work myself on the RR
4.4 TDV8 is the Range Rover to go for according to a fellow RR mechanic….
Personally I’m coveting a Touareg, same but different
Whereas my 2016 Q7 has had nothing but woes over my 2 years ownership, don't get me wrong, it's a great car but 2 new wheel bearings, coolant leaking, towbar fault(not covered by warranty apparently and they want 4k for a replacement!) electrical issues with the rear right door, and I would certainly say I look after it, full dealer history, only 60k miles now. Just goes to show, doesn't matter what car you buy, it's more luck than anything, the 2011 XJ I had before it, one of my favourite cars of all time, was near enough faultless.
@@sexygirls6427 Give us a wank!
As someone who has recently got a bad back I'd love a nice range rover. But as I live in the Netherlands now I just can't stomach the €3100 road tax per year for one here. Its crazyy
That’s mad. I wouldn’t pay that either
That must be a Range Rover 2.7 TdV6 S, SE or HSE. Otherwise the NL road tax per year for Range Rovers is around €2000 (stil a lot of money though).
4.4 V8 Autobiography LWB would be my choice. Took a lot of convincing for my grandad to get a V8 model after decades of owning v6 s classes but very much worth it 😍
Wheel size on this or any vehicle.
Bigger means flashy and smaller means practical. If your RR is to love, polish, lick and cherish, then 20 or 22s. If you want to go up curbs or (gasp) do some green lanes, then 18s and high profile tyres are your man. The reliability image may be impossible to change given how deeply ingrained it is in popular culture.
got a 2017 4.4sdv8 vouge with good spec heated and cooled seats front and rear masage seats opening panaramic sunroof alston headliner deployable tow bar and more
Oh you bad, bad man...great video. I parted company with my L322 Vogue SE just before Covid. Yes, the ERG valves went, the hose to the turbo split, the air suspension failed, and the cooling unit on the driver seat went, but I loved that car. The €2350 per year road tax was a bummer but I routinely got 35-38 mpg and nothing drove like it'd the drive from Ireland to the north of Scotland was effortless. I miss it so much that I'm looking for another but this time an L405.
Dipped a toe into RR ownership with an L538 Evoque and loving it so far. Next stop an RR sport
I live in Berlin where you can consider buying a Range Rover a potential donation to the Caucasus.
Even if they're not stolen entirely, chances are that parts of the outer driver door panel have been cut out trying to get access to deactivate the locking system. Replacing a driver's door in the matching paint with all its fittings and switches costs in excess of 10,000 € - which is why it has become quite difficult to get these models insured against theft.
Yes, I did have to replace a thermostat on my 2010 RX350 at 142,000 miles - its only repair so far and it's still on its original struts. I know a RR is faster and has better suspension, but when I drive a round trip of 600 miles to go skiing six times a year, I'm relaxing on cruise control, so performance is irrelevant. I know it won't let me down and it handles the snow and ice just fine. It will easily do 300,000 miles without major problems which is worth more than the label on an unreliable piece of junk.
Hi Matt, In regards to the issue of car theft you can have the keyless range reduced to say only a meter or so. Or turn the keyless feature off completely,
Exactly. Your second point is spot on. I'd turn it off completely.
My uncle and now my sister has one, I said I'd never ever drive one. Seeing and being drove in one I have to say I've definitely changed my mind or should I say its changed my mind. There is definitely something in the whole "it makes you feel successful" even when you're not quiet there yet lol🤪
I’ve never liked new Hang Overs but 10 years later I like them. Biggest issue in my area is each morning you’ll wake up and look out the curtains wondering if it is still there, once you’ve passed that you jump into it and wonder what it will cost you that day. For all their prowess they are way more than anyone needs.. they are limos that will never go track batching even though they are overly capable. Aussies have it right, take LR into the outback but use a Toyota if you want to come back. If you love it you do, if not………. Wish I had the money to not only run one but have.a spare as well.
I'm in the US & in the market for an L405, I want a V8 & I'm in Texas just like your video said LoL... after watching your video it will be the Supercharged 5.0. Thank you!!
Downunder RR Sport 6 cyc Diesel - LRP mechs- 8+ years hassle-free. Brisbane to Mackay 900km HWY on bone dry one tank of fuel@100+ km/hr
In my opinion basic controls suchs as aircon or heated seat adjustments should always be manual buttons rather than touch screen type because touch screens always require more attention and might not follow your commands as well as manual ones and for me adjusting the basics is something you should be able to do while following the traffic etc
Get yourself a defender key pouch. They are only £5 for two and you can use them out and about. Blocks the signal no problem. Autocar recommended. I put my key on that as soon as I get in the house and my spare keys are in the other one
As always really enjoyed your vid. Like you, I’m committed to the Land Rover brand. Currently on my fourth Range Rover which is a 2021 that I ordered 1 year ago. I’ve never had problems with any of my RR’s and really love them. No SUV like them. The other day a guy saw me get in my RR (which is the blue one you showed in the vid) and felt the need to warn me that once the warranty was up it would fall apart like his wife’s did. After further discussion they did not have it regularly serviced and never serviced the gearbox so we’re shocked and angry when they had transmission problems. They fixed it but decided to trade it in for a more reliable SUV such as an Audi Q7
i had an old efi vogue f reg converted to lpg. bullet proof till rot got to it .bought with 100.000 miles stuck 80 k on it.only had get water pump replaced.entire time i owned it.
Love the review... This is exactly what I wanted to know. Been looking at RR and Jaguars as a replacement for my current XJ8 and was hoping to find just this type of info about the RRs.
Thanks !
Excellent analysis of such a fantastic automobile. Completely concur with your assessment of the reliability issue. Prior to 2010, RR did have issues, but they have overcome them to provide a well engineered marvel. Beauty, style, and performance. The triumvirate of the auto world.
I find it worth mentioning that only in the model years until late 2015, you could actually open the pano-roof. All 2016 model just have a seamless pano-roof but cant open them.
I'm in the middle between a full-size supercharged V8 Range Rover and a Porsche Cayenne Turbo S E-Hybrid. Both cars have their own superiorities, Range Rover is a posh and a comfortable car. Porsche Cayenne on the other hand is sporty, has wider tyres, is hybrid so you can run it at low cost in the town, but they blimey ask for quids for literally everything. I've tested one in the weekend, it even didn't have the double insulated glass in its highest trim level. Range Rover Autobiography has it all, it comes with all the bells and whistles, no need to worry about. To someone coming from S Class, I believe RR is still the only comparable vehicle to do miles with. People say Rolls Royce and Bentley are options, but they're ridicilously overpriced, plus something you didn't mention, you won't do thousands of miles on them. I'll probably stick to the Cayenne just because it's sporty and makes me giggle, has 480mm 8-piston ceramic brakes in front, but I confess the Range Rover is the only SUV competitor to the S Class. Not even GLS is at this level, that interior is absolutely gorgeous. S Class is nowhere practical. This might be the best car, really.
I have never own one but been thinking about it and have always Heard they’re the most unreliable cars ever. But I will say they are absolutely beautiful.
Just watched this after the L322 review, once again a beauty with some brilliant sharp comments. 👏👏👏👏
I've had 3 over the last ten years without one problem.
I've taken my experience as a club to beat the haters over the head.......👍👍
Hi Matt- thanks for vlog, I'm gonna get myself one this summer in the UK when I can travel over from Alicante, re; reliability I had a Spanish reg Shogun for 14 years, 3 years in ... the airbag controller went- €600, 4 years in the diesel pump blocked up- €700, then it failed again while I was over in the UK later that year- recovery fee plus repair at the main dealer, finally the factory GPS antenna packed up at which point I sold it when it was 17 years old, I've never had an RR but I now love the look of them especially the modern slitty headlights, I can't decide which model yet but I'll definitely give you a shout when my dividend pays out, cheers !
I’m loving you’re the walking Range Rover Encyclopaedic Matt - I’m usually feeling as the worlds only Range Rover brand ambassador- as I love them. ❤️the 4.4 SDV8 is lovely to drive 👌I’m going to watch the rest of your video now buddy
Thanks!
My friends just got a 2018 5L V8 Supercharged Autobiography, to replace their 2008 Autobiography. Today is the big day for me... I get to drive it for the first time (they enjoy a few glasses of wine with Sunday lunch, so who am I to say no to driving us home as I don't drink?)... To say I am beyond excited is an understatement... Almost to the levels of your Meg Ryan moment 🤪
Smart motor, I’ve had my Q7 from new 67 plate, never had any issue and it’s on 47k miles, wouldn’t mind trading up to the RR, great looking car
I have switched off the keyless entry option. I don’t miss it. Don’t expect to find out how to do this in the owners handbook. For some reason Land Rover keep it a secret. I found out how to through the Powerful UK You Tube channel.
This was absolute gold! Thank you fro the great info. Nice to hear someone speaking so highly about them after so many slag off videos. Autotrader saved search updated!!
The v8 petrol is the best one man. Timing chain is usually done around 100k it’s worth it lol.
Have to say the L405 still looks so fresh to this day….love them. Thanks for the info about the late 2015 models, will keep that in mind on future searches. Love my RR sport but the big daddy has to be my next purchase.
Good article, although I'm not a fan of start/stop
Which RR should you buy...the Landcruiser.
Thanks for the fab video in persuading me to buy a RR rather than a cayenne which was my original choice
I wish my JLR salesman is like you! What an awesome guy! No nonsense just straight to the point. 🥂
Thanks!
Car theves also knew where the tracker is fitted as it's in the same place on every RR. Land Rover Specialists down the road from us the owner had his brand new RR knicked off his forecourt in front of his eyes. Managed to track it too Essesx where they found the tracker box and rest of the car was picked up in the back of lorry in bits on it's way past Birmingham!!!
Totally agree, you know nearly as much about Range Rovers as I do 🤣. We are on number four and our first L405, not as reliable as the L322 we had but apparently they get better 2016 onwards, some of the tailgate parts have four or five part number revisions!! Loads of things to check if you are buying but my advice is buy the cheapest one you can find at Land Rover as it comes with at least one year of warranty!! Worth it weight in gold. Please don't buy a vogue, they don't have soft close doors and it ruins the car. We will never be without a Range Rover as long as our Bank account can stand it, they are the Swiss army knifes of cars, you really don't need anything else
Good advice! I didn’t know the Vogue didn’t have soft close either. P.S you have the same name as my brother. He’s Andrew Goodwin too
@@HighPeakAutos How funny, he must be a top bloke👍. Yep it ruins the Vogue I think they have gone away from that on the L460. Mine is the Autobiography and was the demonstrator so has every toy available in 2014 difficult to downgrade after that. Keep up the good work, you are pretty much the only person that sticks up for Land Rover
Just bought a RR and can’t agree more with this video
Brilliant assessment. Much appreciated on your insight as a avid Range Rover user.
Spot on the reliability aspect.
I'm not sure if the theft box is 100% secure.... Best is to install a physical deterrent like a steering lock in addition.
I have a 2008 Range Rover Sport Supercharged. I’m currently at 293,000 + miles. I agree nothing really rides like a RR. My dream is to go big on my next one. When I bought my RR is had 42K miles.
Great advise and review HPA ! defiantly if buying L405 you need to get a one owner preferably with say under 15k - 25k miles on clock with books service history to minimise maintenance issues or breakages . You see so many with moderate to high milage examples where owners remarkably haven't ever bothered to service on time or when required or maybe you just the first service or second, on the books then they seem not to bother its really common pattern you see when making inquiries with these RR L405 and newer , then the used cars people acquiring these used vehicle with sketchy and non existence service records acquired, usually from a trade in by the sloppy previous owner end up in the used licensed car yards and unfortunately , some cars dealers pretend all good nothing see here or to worry about to the
inexperienced buyer who then complains later of reliably issues .
Defiantly HPA prevention is much better than cure, especially with how you mention a change of transmission fluid and filter . People love petrol in AUS, In Australia petrol is much cheaper compared to uk/europe but still costs a bit more than usa or UAE . In Aus expect to pay for petrol around 85p per litre for E 10, 90p 95 ron and 95-110 p for 98 Ron at the the bottom of the fortnightly price cycles. Best engine is to go the V8 SC, super charged Petrol for sure as it is much faster and quieter vr's diesel engines variants .Diesel fuel is more expensive in Aus now than petrol , diesel cost more to fix and is still noisy even with 2020's tech.
I have had a number of Land Rover/Range Rovers over the years starting in 2007. My first 2005 LR 3 (Discovery 3) was beyond reliable and still going strong with its new owner at 170K miles. I fell victim to the timing chain jump (faulty guides) in a 2013 Sport which was my only real horror story next to overheating on a '98 Disco 1. But from the LR3, a 98' P38 all the way to my 2013 L405 RR Supercharged the one common theme is electrical issues and "soft code" warning lights. At some point it seems most of them experience this. It is a shame because there is nothing like driving a Range Rover full-size.
It’s mad I use to hate the Land Rover brand but I’ve been liking them recently, a lot of research and I think I’m going to buy one. Great videos as always mate love your channel
After watching all of your RR videos and having had four L322 my wife bought a 2019 L405 Autobiography 4.4 diesel. It's a lovely car with loads of tech (and massage-ing seats) but it's not a real RR. My 2012 L322 is a real RR. The L322 is chunkier and more "uppey" and less a bland eurobox SUV.
I think I said this in another video but I think the L322 is a better Range Rover but the L405 is a better luxury car. I love my 5.0 L405. It’s the best
Metal bread bin or quality street /roses chocolate tin works just as well for Faraday cage…. Plus you can get a lot of keys in it!
I have a 2007 L322 3.6 TDV8 and never want to change it for a newer one!
The L322 face lift from 2009 onwards TDV8 3.6 is all you need in terms of RR
I've only driven one and it was recently. Unfortunately it was a short drive but on the upside it was a 70 plate. 3 litre diesel pulls along nicely I wouldn't want to daily one on small streets of Birmingham but soo nice on the dual carriageway. Had high expectations and wasn't disappointed considering how long that model has been around
Well, I'm about four days into RR ownership. 2008 2.7 V6. Fastidiously documented maintenance history. 92,000 miles. I've already added over 800 to that. Lovely on the motorway and fits into the Isle of Man landscape perfectly. All that said, I'm already eyeing-up the 405. This is going to get expensive. :-)
Very nice. Enjoy