The CAR WIZARD shares the top LAND ROVERS TO Buy & NOT to Buy!
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Taking from his years of experience working on cars the CAR WIZARD 🧙♂️ shares the top Land Rovers / Range Rovers TO buy and NOT to buy!
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Love "TO Buy & NOT to Buy", do all the manufacturers!
What about GMCs, GMC is from utility to luxurious rides.
Should do a whole series
instablaster.
Toyota will be a difficult, if not impossible episode😁😅😂.
Like that this is genuine advice and not the crap that Scotty Kilmer says like “only buy a 1994 Toyota Celica”
LMAO
Doug DeMuro even said yeah sure it’s reliable and cheap but with the outdated safety features I really hope you don’t get hit by an Escalade
Redline Raphael Scotty is a complete stooge. My dad loves him. My though is that anyone can tell you to buy Toyota. Or Honda.
@@RootBeerGMT I agree 100%
Jeez ,Scotty is a loser !
How about a "This Not That" on Audi?
@aziath pharaoh Called Multitronic -> Total Junk
Easy. Dont buy an Allroad, B6 CVT A4, and DONT buy a B6 S4.
Buy an old B5 or TT with the 1.8T and a manual gearbox. They last forever.
Just dont buy any audi :) Rent them while under warranty.
@@InsaneBimmer agreed. I have a B5 with the 2.8 standard transmission with 133k miles, the only repair I ever needed was front upper control arms.
any audis with an auto gearbox or a V6
Some D2 info. (Land Rover Specialist)
Discovery 2 (1998 to 2002) TD5 and The 4.0 V8 Are good cars. They survive well down here in Australia and many almost 20 years old running a hard life with a lot of KM’s on them. Air suspension optioned cars, the systems last about 8 years and not expensive to replace. Very simple system. It go to springs.
The 2003 (D2a) 4.6 V8 slipper liners is not a design fault, it’s caused by overheating which in terms is a cooling system not maintained!
These engines are designed to run at 96c to get around emissions, therefore cooling systems need to be tip top. Hoses, waterpump, thermostat change, viscous fan test and rad flush needs to be done at 10 years. A half sludged up radiator or any leak can cause these issues.
So an overheating 4.6 (only made in 2003) (year they finished) is 6 years overdue if not done if not done to date.
I recently watched a RUclips video where someone bought a D2a V8 4.6 with a known cooling system problem, took it off roading on a hot day...... guess what happened! ..... yes it overheated...... who fault was it ...... Land Rover!..FFS.
People need to understand these car before they blame them as being unreliable. In most cases it’s owner neglect and age combined.
As wizard said some really good quality ones are cheap due to this.
The body and interiors are really built to last. Electrics are good and simple if any issues.
Parts are now really cheap. Absolutely brilliant off-road. Super comfortable as they are based on a Range Rover Classic chassis.
Known issues are :
Leaking sunroofs due to blocked drains. (Lots of cars suffer this) have one without a sunroof to avoid!
ABS sensor lights ‘The 3 Amigos’. ABS Sensor wires wear out or a $80 shuttle valve part as they get old. Plenty of other names do this. Land Rover owners try and bypass by soldering wires etc! Please don’t do this! Have a crash and your insurance find it you will be in a lot of trouble! 3 Amigos a cheap fix in reality.
Rover V8 Rocker Covers will leak oil eventually. Again a lot of other brands do.
Front double cardon prop shaft is a sealed for life GKN unit. Consider swapping after 10 years or get greaseabke unit. Nothing lasts for life!
Overall the youngest D2 is now 16 years old! Oldest 21 years. So like any car out of its 3-5 year warranty stuff has to be done!
I have a 2000 disco 2 4.0. I couldn't have said it better myself and I love that thing to death. Fixes are cheap and typically easy, people always told me "those cars are european so parts are hard to find and you have to have a mechanic because they're complicated and expensive blah blah blah" surprisingly, its been nothing but solid and easy to work on. Ive done a lot of preventative maintence, upgraded cooling, 180 thermostat, got a gauge to watch my Temps, watch the head gaskets l, replaced abs solenoid as well as all the normal maintence and it hasnt left me stranded no three amigos either with 180k and going strong. Great road manners and the thing rocks offroad. People just dont know how to care for the british princesses and you've done a great job of illustrating that in your comment.
I loved both my Disco 2's and I have moved on to the disco 3
I’m looking at a 2004 discovery 2 with a 300tdi swap done to it. Low miles on the engine, seems like a good buy. It just opens up a whole new layer of things I’m trying to educate myself on before pulling the trigger. Also looking at a 1990 Range Rover classic to do the tdi swap on myself. Not sure. Either option will run me about the same amount of money.
@@xtrevoreonx id take the tdi disco over the 90s range rover personally unless youre in love with the range rover look over the disco
The 4.6 is based in a old block the 3.5 (this was a nice engine, with almost no head gaskets failures or overheating problems) LR push this engine to the limit, because in 2000 they doesn´t have money to make another engine. Some people use the TD5 thermostat in the 4.6. The 3.9 in my opinion is the best with a excellent oil and not long intervals.
We had a series 1 Landrover Discovery as our family car for about 15 years, its had loads of work done on it mainly because its done around 200,000 miles, never had the engine replaced and it still works today, retired to a field to pull trailers, mowers and rollers. Thing is an amazing offroader that can do pretty much anything straight out of the box.
It’s so amazing how simplistic the guy is with his honest reviews, no drama and jazz ,
Well, there are a couple of major errors here. When he talks about the Freelander 1 (1999-2006) he puts up a picture of a Frellander II, witch acually was a good anr reliable car with its 2.2 Ford diesel engine. And he says NOTHINg about the worst Full Fat Range Rover ever, the P38A, 1994-2001. Guess how I know. The L322 from 2007-2012 are good cars, both with V8 turbodiesel and V8 supercharged petrol engines.
Former Land Rover tech here; I can confirm most of this. One thing to clarify, that Freelander he showed is actually an LR2. It was called the Freelander 2 internationally, but they realised that was a bad word here. It is *not* the same as the Freelander we got here. That pile had a 2.5 V6 developed by LR, and it was simply atrocious. Never buy a Freelander. The LR2, conversely, had a good bit of Volvo stuff in it - engine, trans, other bits inside - and actually is a pretty good little truck. I never saw many issues with them, and actually tossed around the idea of buying one. LR2: can recommend.
I have a Discovery Sport that I'm leasing now. So far my backup camera decided to show on the screen upside down. Check engine light code is telling me that my fuel rail sensor is going bad. 20 more months of this and I will never look at Land Rover again.
Drove mine for 10 years and just had issues with it but it's all better now 1k later but not bad after that long.
08 LR2(3.2 I6) owner here, thanks for cleaning the name for them. Mine has about 130k miles on it and no major issues, they deserve a good attention which they didn’t get.
Keynesian Economics I get claustrophobic when I’m sitting on the back seat of the evoques, not saying they’re bad but LR2 definitely has more rooms for me to breath especially at the back seats. I also love the lr2’s squarish look way over evoque’s, it’s a timeless design.
@@mattchen6355 my dad owns a 08 LR2 and it's one of the few diesel cars I like (here in Europe 99% were diesels). I sit in the back only one time, on a 1,5h trip, belt put all the time, it was my worse experience in the back of a car and I'm not even tall, I'm 5'7. I felt like seat was not lean backward enough. I sat in the back of a lot of cheap cars and all were better. My mom has no problem in the back, but she's much shorter. Also the cup holders and armrests (and I think that is a bigger problem in US): in the back are pretty ok, but in the front, oh, armrest a little bit narrow, too high placed and too long; as passenger I can fell the driver arm touching mine when shifting and as driver pretty uncomfortable to drive with an arm on steering wheel and one on the shifter. Front cup holders are very bad placed, I placed one accidentally in the middle of the 2, didn't fit very well and few secs later I needed to brake bc of an idiot coming from opposite direction and entering my lane in a turn and all the soda felt on the central console (some places are a little little bit sticky even today). In two years of ownership it was pretty reliable, without counting that rear doors can't lock anymore automaticaly bc of idiot passengers in the back, trunk lid button doesn't work anymore, bonnet open sensor needed to be canceled with a paper clip because it was starting randomly the alarm, parking sensors don't work, aux port is damaged because of bad positioning (why the fuck is on the rear?) and idiot passengers, right mirror don't open complete all the time and needs to be gently pushed, the haldex was broken when my dad bought it and realised only when coming back to home (fortunately it was cheap, the cost of a service for consumables and having haldex fixed at a local mechanic was only $600). Despite all of that is a good car, and I consider buying one for myself. The only thing I don't like is that it doesn't feel good in the corners (I assume it's because of the high center of gravity and tbh I didn't drive or sit in another SUV and pay attentions to that).
The Freelander picture was a 2007+ LR2 which was a reliable car. The LR2 and Evoque were essentially the same car with different trim and panels.
"If you must buy a Land Rover, these will give you less pain than others."
Said the guy who never owned a Land Rover in his life...
@@cristogreyling4736 I can't respect a guy who's owned a land rover.
tyler kitter i dont need the respect from a idiot!
Sooner have a land rover over any yank or Japanese junk
I have a 1989 RR classic and it runs perfect. Not sure about the newer ones.
I worked at Land Rover HQ in 1998-99, and sat near customer care. Heard of countless transmission issues on Discovery, then Range Rover fuel line leaks that would catch fire after the car was parked! Really enjoyed the Disco II with the active steering, which reminded me of the Prelude SH. That said, it was the most fun corporate place to work.
Hi 2017 HSE Diesel would you recommend it?
@@bionicambassadordepends on how much you like Jaguars
So 99 is known for bad transmissions
I was half expecting a 3 second video saying, DON’T BUY A LANDROVER!
hes not scotty kilmer
LandRover/jaguar are owned by China/india. No buy
hahahaha
@@missingremote4388 They are owned by the Tata Group which is Indian....
@@THEGAMINGHELP101 oh 💰
Actually the 06-09 L322's with the Jag motors, particularly the Supercharged, are the most reliable LR/RR so far this century. The 4.2SC puts out 396HP and it takes care of itself quite nicely on the road and it sounds great when it's all wound up. The RR Sport L320 used the same motors but had some other issues that drop them down a notch or two, being based on the LR3 it shares those issues. I agree on the first few years of the L322 with the BMW motors and am not a fan at all of the Jag 5.0 with the bad timing guides.
The 4.4 Jaguar engine is one of the best.
Shame more D3s here in Aus weren't bought with the 4.4, easily the best motor in those discos.
This guy recommending d4 and not mentioning anything about the 3L that is a bit of a time bomb.
I wouldn’t regret buying an L322 Range if I got it at CarMax with a warranty and I created a RUclips channel where every video started with me saying “THIS”
Bumper....
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Warranty
Just buy an L322 with a 4.2 supercharged engine. Those things are virtually bulletproof where it matters.
Is that Dough Demuro guy?
@@sankara6823 I think it is 😂😂
THIS is an excellent comment I will now give it a Doug score
I bought my Audi A6 from one of your videos many months later it’s still running perfect. I’ve had no maintenance issues and the 2.0t I4 is still running strong. Cheers from Chicago
Im a mechanic in Colorado and i 100% agree with eveything you said. Run away!!!!!
Run away from all land rovers or from these he mentioned in red only?
The Freelander pictured is not the awful first-generation Freelander we got in the US. The first-gen Freelander is truly terrible, but the LR2/Freelander 2 that was pictured is an entirely different vehicle and actually quite reliable. The Discovery 2 from 1999 to 2002 was a much better vehicle with the 4.0 V8 than the 2003 to 2004 with the 4.6.
I have a 2012 LR2 and other than the previous owner having had the rear differential replaced it’s been a very good vehicle, and I have a 2000 Discovery 2 that actually has never required a tow in its life and ironically pulled a broken tow truck out of an intersection once.
Could you do a "Buy This Not That" video for Volkswagen?
Don't buy any Volkswagen with an engine that was designed during the last 20 years.
@@Mgoblagulkablong that's a lie lol, go back to Scotty.
It would be, don't buy any, cuz their company's a giant fraud.
Just to be clear, I love VWs and, to each his/her own...
I am aware that VWs are not going to be like Toyota's nor do they maintain Toyota's phenomenal reliability. To put it very bluntly if I wanted Toyota I would've bought one, but you can't get a Toyota in a stick anymore (other than the Toyota Corolla Hatchback)...
@@thooke222 Please enlighten me.
I wonder why the LR3 wasn't mentioned. It's widely accepted as the most reliable Land Rover ever made out there. Many hitting 300k, 400k, 500k miles etc.,
Having worked for Montreal’s Land Rover dealer, years ago, my advice is simple.... if you have lots of money (almost rich or above) and have 2-3+ other vehicles that you can rely on (don’t ever be dependent on a Land/Range Rover!)... then the Land Rover experiences can be amazing (especially if under warranty). They truly are incredible machines... when they work! Thanks for the video.
Would I ever recommend one ..? NO! Would I love to have one..? Hell ya!
Kellington Link , you’re comment is the most honest one I’ve ever seen in regards to the Land Rover/Range Rover vehicles. Thank You 😁
@@kellingtonlink956 What would you recommend for a cheap, used vehicle that can do overlanding?
Grew up with a '00 Disco II and only 2 head gaskets blew up! I'll never get rid of it. 4.0L Rover V8 for the win.
I would never buy one of these vehicles. I would buy a Mitsubishi Outlander with the 3 L V6 engine instead.
The second-generation of the Outlander is fairly cheaper than the third-generation. My father drives the third-gen.
I’ve had quite a bit of experience with Land Rover over the years.
1996 Discovery - had “issues” but only left me stranded once in 160-170k miles (water pump failed)
1999 Discovery II - head gasket went around 99k, I replaced it for a fraction of the cost of dealer and it ran good up until we traded
2006 LR3 with the Ford V6, other than air suspension which has been switched for coils it’s been pretty reliable- longest owned for me-still own
1993 Range Rover SWB w 4.2 motor, this thing was a major hooptie even lower than Tyler Hoover standards
2009 Range Rover Supercharged. What an awesome rig this was, until it wasn’t. It’s been at the dealer since I traded it over 6 months ago and they still haven’t figured out what was wrong w it
2016 Discovery Sport. This thing has been pretty reliable so far, though I purchased CPO and added warranty after the 2009 Range scared me
Just wanted to mention (prior to watching this) that for some unknown reason I keep being in the right place at the right time regarding purchasing vehicles. It is uncanny. It keeps happening, decade after decade and I have not ever put one ounce of thought into it. It can be to do with cars, SUVs, vans, motorbikes. Sometimes I am not even out looking for anything but with a friend who wants something and I suddenly see something I really like. Sometimes not even on the first visit does this happen. A real plus and very odd but in a very good way. I have ended up with anniversary machines and more.
I used to work at a small used car dealership and we often sold cars on consignment. We were so small that I often made repairs myself to keep at least a little bit of profit in the sale.
I sold a bright yellow Defender 90 after replacing the broken plastic instrument cluster housing with a metal one and finding a short to the tail lights.
We also had a newer-model turbocharged Range Rover with a non-functioning turbo. I replaced a power seat switch but the turbo repair was beyond anything I'd fool with.
Anyway, I only know enough about them to know I don't want one.
Had an evoque with a check engine light, ended up replacing the turbo, $7k job, glad it’s covered under the warranty at 20k miles, my conclusion is if someone in the bracket of getting new cars every couple years, otherwise I will stick with Toyota and Lexus.
Both of you are correct. ANYBODY with a sense of some car knowledge would know not to buy a Land/Range Rover. It's sad that people that are mechanically not inclined would buy a money pit. I on the other hand so badly want a either 2007 Lexus IS 250 AWD or a 2008 (or 2007) Lexus GS 350 AWD. Either way if I end up getting the IS I'll probably supercharge that V6. Maybe put some nice 20" or 22" ers on that.
I am glad you did not mention the RR P38, most people are scared of them, but after 10 years of ownership of a 4.6 HSE i cannot fault them for value for money and reliability if you look after them on a cheap budget.
I own one too, granted, its the 2.5DT model and currently not road legal as it was long abandoned, but im fixing it slowly.
I have a 2007 Range Rover sport L320 with 165,000 miles (2.7 TDV6 Ford lion v6) and the only problem I have had is the rear toe link spindles in 9 months ownership. Even did a 2,000 miles family road trip. Best car I’ve owned. I used to have a 2013 A45 amg but would have the Range Rover any day.
That era ford derived land rover are very good cars, I almost wonder if Ford kept them if they would have been better cars. I've got a 319 LR3/discovery of the same vintage with the 4.4 gas engine it's basically the same car as your 320. It's still kicking super reliable, never been stuck, never been towed very little ever breaks on it. Suspension parts are a problem but the motor is solid and lots of parts of the car are just beefy. I've had mine 12 years tried to replace it with a new one and found myself driving it while the new one was in the shop, LRNA wound up buying my L405 back and I'm back driving the lr3, not sure I'm going to replace it yes it has minor issues from time to time but it is a great car and has never left me stranded.
Update? Any issues?
You forgot to talk about the LR3 Discovery 3
Same
Same
@@sar1521 FYI, I bought one since this comment, It's been great so far
@@chanceym6000 thanks. I've been really wanting to get one. Been looking at a couple close to me and went and checked one out this week. Just trying to find the best deal. Good to know you are liking yours.
One thing I also did notice, he slipped up and said the LR4 had a Ford engine, that actually isn’t correct, they only had Jaguar motors, it was the LR3 that had Ford motors, you could get a Ford V6 as an option
My dad owned a Series 1 discovery and I loved it as a child. He ended warping the head (didn't top up the radiator for a long time and overheated) but it was an amazing capable off roader. Loved being constantly told by all the LC/Hilux owners how much better off-road their 4x4s were while being towed out by dad's crappy unreliable discovery.
Those LC/Hiluxes are still on the road while dads discovery isn’t
@@AG-rk5hj😂
I had a 2011 LR2 and had no problems out of it the entire time I owned it. I sold the LR2 when I bought my 2014 tundra but I loved and still miss that car.
I'd like to have an old 40s or 50s Land Rover like the one in the movie "The gods must be crazy". It was the star of the film, its idling engine sound so soothing! ;)
Old Land Rover were built for the army those were made to last ,,,today there for people who don’t value there money or don’t know any better
I know. It wouldn't be a daily driver anyways, but it would get me where there are no roads :-)
@@Seegalgalguntijak Land Cruiser is the best vehicle for your money in that regard.
@Sans Freedom I'd rather get a Lada Niva then, they are even cheaper and possibly even better to come by where I am (although you'll have to look out for rust issues).
@Mr Duckhead That can very well be (I'm not really versed in their models), I just know that it sounded really great.
Actually the ones to buy are the ones with the crap motors you find on Craig’s list for a hundred bucks, you then buy a Chevy Ford or Mazda from copart that runs and drives strip out everything right down to the door locks and fit it into the LR,RR.
You will then have a nice looking and reliable vehicle for a tenth the cost of a new one.
There’s a gm transmission that connects directly to the Range Rover transfer case and the Ford, Mazda V6 was used in some LR vehicles the ZF transmission was used in numerous vehicles including Ford Mercedes and Chrysler so if it has a removable bell housing you may be able to swap it.
But never leave the Range Rover electrics in unless you want to bury it in your backyard.
I would like to see a “Buy this, not that” for Ford, Toyota, Honda, Volkswagen, Audi, Mazda, Nissan, Subaru, GMC, Mitsubishi, or Jeep
I have an ALL ORIGINAL Series III that I have owned for decades. I’m surprised you didn’t mention that as one to get because it’s super reliable. I have only had to replace the chassis, head gasket (2x), points/distributor, wiring harness (front and back), alternator, air filter (upgraded from oil bath to modern), radiator, brakes and lines, firewall, seats, paint, rear axles (they snap all the time), the distributor gear-that is a real pain to change, speedo, temperature gauge, horn, pretty much every light and floor mats. I upgraded by adding seatbelts, disc brakes and a new fuel tank. I would mention how many miles I have on the vehicle, but there was a short period of time (about 20 years) when the odometer wasn’t working.
The LR2’s are not the same as the earlier Freelanders. Different chassis, different engine, different cars.
I whole-heartedly agree about the Disco’s. I had an ‘01 D2, and it was fun junk.
The first freelandsa had the k series engines and the mini rover 200 floor pan. The 2nd was ford engined
I've got a full size l322 V8 petrol, no bongs, no real issues, it's done 116,000 miles and runs sweet, not even a tick from the engine, I've had it for 2 years and it's been great. Also no suspension issues either. It's just a good car.
My mother used to drive a 1965 series 2 Land Rover around London during the 90s. Used to play “let’s go fast over the speed bumps and see how far we could fly off the seats” fun times. From what I remember it was actually quite reliable.
P.s Lincoln or Cadillac this not that ;)
This is literally the best series on RUclips
I like how you dont talk crap about certain car manufactures like scotty kilmer
Scotty is crap......🤣
It was very refreshing to hear someone talk about something without shoving a Toyota and Honda down my throat
i like how you switch the car picture as you talk back and forth about the different cars it makes it easy to follow along.
You got some info wrong on LR4. LR4 starts from 2010, not 2009. and V6 Supercharged starts from 2014, not 2016. and 2011 and 2012 models got terrible timing chain issue.
Lr3 4.4 V8 was the best LR/Jag motor.
yeah. Yet this expert didn't even feel the need to mention it...
Scotty won't be able to sleep with the Wizard recommending Dodge Avengers and Land Rovers to the masses. x D
Even Wizard mentioned Toyota and Honda are the most reliable cars ever.
Thanks brotha I’m on the edge of getting a LR4 and I’m so glad you and a few others have rated this vehicle reliable.
Me too, have you gotten yours yet?
You always need a bumper-to-bumper unlimited mileage warranty (from CarMax haha)
Who sells unlimited mileage warranties on Land Rovers?
Laughs in DeMuro
@@risingembersgaming7740 there are 5 out of 25 I contacted that do
Can confirm the 10-13’ LR4 and RRS, water pump and crossover tubing as well as alternator have been the only issues with mine so far. Also make sure to use the parking brake often or else it will seize, and that makes for a no-fun time.
I can confirm this. Have a 12' rrs. Just got my stucked parking brake replaced and it cost me 3000$. I'm also having a coolant leak issue right now but I'm not planning to fix it since it leaking really slow. Is there any other problems you've met? Just wanna take precaution.
Crank is next ask me
I've been running our Disco TD5 for a trouble free 7 years. I do my own maintenance and repairs. The only time we needed recovery was a couple of weeks after we bought it, a snapped auxiliary belt. I've put in a new clutch which was a heavy job but I can do most maintenance and repairs myself. I do have the advantage that I own a small engineering company but once you move up to the TD4 lots of jobs become 'body off' and I don't really have the facilities for this. I hate the idea of not being able to work on my own car myself. My advice would be to preempt cooling issues, new rad if it looks sketchy, new coolant pipes, thermostat and pump.
I've owned a 2003 Range Rover HSE since 2015.Yes,many repairs.However,after replacing steering column,rebuilt,runs fine.Oh yes, performed timing chain guides 2018.I still enjoy the Rover.
The only land rover I'd consider as an english guy is a land rover discovery 4. I worked with lots of them doing export dock work in the south of england, and it was the only land/range rover I didn't have problems with. The 3.0 TDV6 was the engine that worked the best, but I'm not sure they were exported to the USA.
Man I wish there were more ppl like you out there. I've had a 1995 Land Rover Discovery since 2004. Bought with 116k miles on it. Burns some oil, eats some gas and alternators, but otherwise been great. After a brake job the master cylinder went out on it and service inspection said just about the whole brake system was bad. $1800 bill sidelined it for me ( storage jail ). Got just enough to fix it, then decided maybe good to invest in a gas saver. Fuel costs alone saved should fix the Rover in 5-6 months.....wrong. $1800 140k mile Ford Focus has cost me $18k all in ( just maintenance and purchase price @ approx $4-800 every 4-10 months including one $6800 engine+ bill ). Needless to say everyone tells me to sell the Rover. THANK YOU for saying it's one of the good ones. V8, Mech Center Diff, AWD, Solid Axles, just the right weight. It's my baby tank. No plans on selling. Mom's from England and I'm proud to have my Land Rover. 1995 white still shines. Hoping to have it back on the road before 2023. Happy Rovering.
I had an 03 Discovery 2 and the years I had it I never had issues with it but definitely not a truck for the owner who doesn't wrench or change their own oil. New cooling system is a must as the stock cooling system and water pumps tend to go back which should be the first thing to replace is the pump and radiator. I still hope to own a Discovery 1 someday as those are nicer imo.
Yeah sometimes this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. What's funny is he also mentioned the Disco series 2 as 02 to 04.... Not even mentioning that it's actually 99 to 04
my mom had a land rover discovery from 2000s or something. i remember sitting inside it in the garage because it needed a new motor. it was given to her as a gift lmao
Totally didn’t expect a Land Rover video. Disco I and II somehow hold their values good here in Canada. A lot of people are asking $10k-$15k+ for nice ones.
Love how Mrs Wizard shouted “so did I!” 😂😂😂😂
I own a 2003 Discovery 2, like you mentioned, the engine did drop a liner making it into the proverbial boat anchor. I replaced it with a fresh rebuild with "top hatted" liners that keep them from slipping ever again. I recently got to 110,000 miles and aside from the engine, it has been completely reliable in all aspects. I found it well worth the price consider how little I paid to get a very capably SUV that can go from off in the mud in the morning to taking me to a show on broadway in the evening with only a bath in between. Love my Disco!
1995 LR discovery, roof racks, Trail lights, heavy duty bumper with winch 116 k zero rust super big thing in Minnesota $1500. My mechanic says go for it. "You've done worse" I think I'll buy it tomorrow. I feel a lot better having the car Wizards blessing as well.
$1300 -97
Your 97-06 freelander picture is not right. That was the newer generation LR2 which were much better than the first gen and came with an I6
True, I'm curious how many people, unfortunately, trusted this video and bought a different car instead of the LR2
He's wrong about the Freelander 2 no model had a 1.8 engine most have 2.2 diesel engine. I've had two, both done over 100000 miles never had any problems if you read the comments from people that have owned them most will say the same
I'm looking at a 2013 LR2, any advice? Have you owned an LR2?
@@vladetic3 yes 2 best cars I've owned
@@rogertaylor6386 in the US we only got gas
Correction: 2005 Ford bought Land Rover so the later 05 and on LR/RR had the Jag 4.4L V8 or 4.2L Super Charged in them and are reliable.
So 2002-early 2005 were the BMW made models and had reliability issues.
The best one is a Land NOver. Wouldn't touch any Land Rover/Range Rover product from the early 90s on. We English all know that!
Isn't it annoying when your country could put out a good product but doesn''t. Look at the U.S.its the same. We could build the best cars in the world and once did but not now.
@@robertwoodpa6463 Yes agreed. Just like to cut corners for maximum profit. I own a 88 Dakota LE V6. That thing is bullet proof and never misses a beat.
@@Blue-moon12
Old range rovers are actually reliable? Educate me please
@@abovethelaw4417 Are you saying I said they were reliable?
That's because some of you Brits don't service your cars. You buy them second hand cheap and don't service the properly and just sell them on. Iøve seen that so many times. They are all too often rusty, and broken, with bad cheap skate fixes, not real repairs. That said, I have had my Lotus Esprit for more than 13 years, and it's perfectly reliable, save two plastic gears in the lift up head light - 60 gbp and one hour at home changing them, and it's fine, + one clutch slave that gave up after 25 years of trouble free service. 5,60 gbp and ... one hour at home changing it. That's all. Not even Toyota can do that.
There is always two sides of a story about car reliability.
Cheers.
I picked up a 98' Disco 1 SE7 back in 2010 for $850 that didn't run (before buying it I noticed it didn't have fuel pressure) and replaced the in tank walbro with a 155gph unit @ $100. In severe weather that truck survived 2 wrecks, multiple colorado off road trips, and a ton of abuse for 5 years and I ended up trading it for a truck while still running fine. It was pretty indestructible
I’ve heard that the LR3 was actually a fairly reliable vehicle as well. The motor was a 4.4 V8 that was designed by Ford when they owned Jaguar. I’ve heard they had air suspension problems, but all and all they were decent vehicles from what I’ve heard.
The only air suspension problems I've had with the lr3 was when the air struts went out. By the way here on the US you could either have the good Ford v6 or the basically Ford v8, I got the v8. If you get the tab recall thing for the air compressor from Hitachi to amk you're good. But the air struts cost the same as struts for other cars if not less. The difference is that once the air struts break you have to replace it unlike a normal strut. But most air struts lost roughly 160,000 miles. Plus what normal spring strut keeps factory tolerances like the air struts.
Front air struts need replacement due to heat from engine…rear should be good for life
So when the Wizard says, “Don’t buy the 2002-2006 Land Rover does that mean I can buy the 2007-2012 Land Rover???
Is that how we read between the lines??
Jake Griffin Safe bet is don't.
If Range Rover, go with the 2006-2009 L320 or L322. The AJV8 Engines are bulletproof with regular oil changes. HSE or Supercharged are both adequate.
Just a bit of clarification. The Evoque shown is the 2018 onwards version. Then the picture of the Freelander is the 2006 to 2014 version, which is not too bad. The original Freelander looked completely different and was pretty unreliable as you say.
So, Freelander 2 > Freelander?
Loved my mk1 discovery. Spent a lot of time under the bonnet. However living in UK parts are cheap as chips. And it's easy to work on.
What do you think about the LR3 Wizard? I know they are similar to the LR4 but am curious about your opinion.
He never replied probably because he doesn’t know. The Ford engine he referred to the LR4 is actually not in the LR4 but in some LR3 trucks. Pretty reliable regardless of whether you land on the for V6 or Jaguar AJ V6.
I've heard many people say that if you want a 02-05 Range Rover with the BMW v8 then just buy the x5 but with the i6 engine. much more reliable and it will not need as much maintenance. there's a reason you still see plenty of those on the road.
landcruiser
problem solved
except I don't care to spend $20k upfront
I'm from Australia, so this info is not needed for me, but i love watching this channel anyway and Hoovies. Lots of great honest mechanic info here and i can relate what he says over to our cars here so always something to gain. Also like his large working area without clutter.
3 thumbs up from Australia!
Never heard you mention the 2006 LR3 with the 4.4 motors. Ive got one and it runs smooth with over 100k on it
Mines got 196,000 miles on it. Most expensive repair was probably either the Ford "smart" alternator or the air struts. Now before someone says the airstruts go out all the time, they don't. They last for around 160,000 miles then die. New ones cost the same as normal struts for other SUVs like volvos. I would also like to point out, show me a normal struts that is within factory specs like the air struts at that mileage. But other than that I love it. Only regret not having the rear locking differential. But the TC is still very good compared to jeep, Volvo, Toyota. Hope you enjoy your lr3 as much as I do. Also, I've got the v8 too. Recommendation to people looking to get one or who own one are be mechanically inclined, be smart, and have fun. When looking one to buy make, look for one with the locking rear diff, and it has all of its paperwork and past shop records, check the cowl and wire tunnels, check the air compressor to see if it's the crappy Hitachi or the good AMK. A tool you need to buy is either the iidtool or nano evocom for diagnostics, I use iidtool.
@@Legoguy1979 I never checked on the locking diff and the brand of compressor. I'll have to look into that. Maybe I got lucky
You can't kill the 4L jag engine. Seriously underrated. Probably could do 300k miles on that engine. Mines over 100k and smooth as silk, the rest of the car is basically rust but the engines a beast.
@shaunbava1801 thanks. To clarify, the 8 cylinder in the LR3?
A best friend of mines father owns 2 Land Rover (2 Discovery's from 1991 and "94") and still riding strong for over 25+ years.
I have been running a 2005 L322 Range Rover TD6 for 2 years. No problems whatsoever. Service it religiously and don’t drive it like a sports car. One of the most reliable cars I have owned..
Ive got my wallet ready... I'm so excited to find out what Rover I can buy.
This guy is slightly confused. The full size range rover lost its BMW engine and drivetrain in 2006. the 2006-2009 Land Rover anything are typically good. those were outfitted with the 4.4L Jag V8 which is pretty solid; as well as the 4.2 Supercharged Jag. Also very solid and very fast. This is also something he wont tell you. The LR4 is pretty; yes; but the 2010-2013 were plagued with timing chain issues due to the fact that when Jag manufactured the 5.0 to replace the 4.4 for these rigs they made the guides out of plastic. Some of them have been updated. But they would typically fail at around 90-130k miles. It wasn't until 2014 until the problem had been corrected. So here's the breakdown.. LR3- get the 4.4L not the 4.0 V6 and check the onboard computer for faults. LR4- get it if the seller can prove the timing chain issue has been addressed already and/or is post 2013. Full size Range Rover get it if the year is 2006-2009. In 2010 these also went to the Jag 5.0 so they were plagued with the same issues as the LR4. Same goes for the Sports as well. Hope this short explanation can save some headaches. Oh and one more thing if you ask Jeremy Clarkson what is favorite Land Rover is he'll tell you it's a 2006 Range Rover L322.
To buy, or not to buy, that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
the pistons and transmissions of outrageous fortune,
or to take a mortgage against a sea of troubles
and, by opposing, to replace them. To sell, to repair
no more; and by selling, we end the heartache and the
thousand natural shocks to the wallet. [Sorry William].
Edward de Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford
Know your history! USA spec 2002 RR was the last model year for the P38A solid axle...2003 RR L322 was the first model year redesign by BMW...
So happy on my 96 discovery 1...just minor maintenance problems
I bought a 2013 LR4 for my wife because "I'm a mechanic" but I have to say I'm impressed we've gone from 50k to 178k miles without many problems... that said, I just finished the timing chain update... again it would have been costly for a dealer to service.
Gotta say I love my Disco 2 that being said I knew what I was getting into
Love our LR4! Very reliable. LR3's are good too, but avoid the V-6 version.
Which year and engine option should o get? And which to avoid?
I wanna get an LR4
@@DiaperSNiFFER LR4 to avoid 2010-2012, unless they had the timing chain work done. Also IMHO the 5.0 V8 it's the way to go with these vehicles since they almost weight 6000 lbs.
@@agcamprubi4544 thank you 🙏 so much!!! I really appreciate the knowledge!
@@agcamprubi4544 why would the fact it's a 6000 pound vehicle sway you? What are your thoughts on the 2013 LR4?
'Land Rovers to buy'
You're looking at yachts again aren't you?
Hey wizard! I own a 1975 series 3 Land Rover and it’s so fun to drive! It rarely breaks.... and when it does, it’s so simple to fix and to work on.
If you buy a Land Rover Coyote swap immediately. Do a coil conversion.
But then you just have a reliable engine surrounded by junk. Range Rovers are very unique in that everything on them is unreliable, as opposed to other unreliable cars where there's a few points of failure.
I've had my 03 D2 since hs.12 yrs later with 145k miles, and it is still running great. Only the random 3 amigos making inspections hard to pass but never running rough and never stranded with engine failure or stuck on a trail, and I keep flying by all the jeeps if they don't need help.
My 2006 l320 v6 2.7 HSE has been in my family for 10 years I owned it for over a year she been amazing 139,657miles and still going strong
4:00 Land Rover series 1, used Z.F. transmission (great transmission). Remember this V-8 is a Buick engine (sold in 1967). So can I replace the aluminum V-8 with a BUICK V-6????🤔
You could, but it would be a TON of work. They had different bell housing bolt patterns between the Rover Aluminum V8 (had the 1950s round Buick bolt pattern) and the rwd 3.8 V6, 300, 340, and 350 Buick engines had the more modern Buick/Olds/Pontiac bolt pattern. Electronic retrofitting would be a nightmare, too.
There is a mob in Australia who has the conversation kit for the Buick v6 and LS v8
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Thanks
@@brianandrews7099
Thanks for the help.
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I may have a 1996 NO RUST, Land Rover Discovery for sale. Excellent NO RUST frame and body ( very little rain & No road Salt).
I have the 2016 Land Rover with the V6, I am glad you recommend this one! It’s over 100,000 miles and I was nervous, but so far it’s been ok.
I just bought a 2016 and so far I'm just finding broken plastic parts on the seat belt buckels and a rear seat release
Could you consider creating a quick video on SAAB. Just an opinion or previous work you've done to them if any?
Spencer Coleman i own both and Land Rover and a Saab. The deal with Saab’s is this. Only the 9-3 2.0T is a reliable, high selling car. Spare parts are plentiful and the cars are reliable 2006+. Other Saab’s are now speciality cars. The 9-5 2.3 has sorta ok parts supplies. Otherwise these are hobby cars now.
@@777jones That is very cool I love the 9-3 really wish I got one for that reason, but I have an 05 9-5 wagon, and I've put alot of love into that beast. Really considering getting a spare 9-5 due to the absolute hassle finding parts. After market is easy and cheap for downpipes turbos and suspension all that. For direct ignition and fuel systems or really anything having to do with internals or tranny (aside from pistons) I have to go oem, and that's difficult to find.
I just sold my 2001 Saab 9-3, a unique, true blue sports hatch that was fast, fun and always got complements. The classic 900/9-3 are built to a luxurious standard and have more character compared to the cheaper and less solid second generation 9-3 sedans. But I definitely do not miss working on it. In fact I cry with joy I never have to rip or scald my skin off again in that engine bay. The engine and transmission itself are solid, it's everything around it that would break one thing after another. What a migraine it was, too bad. I will miss driving it though, a love hate relationship.
Had my D1 for 20+ years, great car!
A well looked after Discovery 2 is truthfully amazing, however, they're few and far between
3:46 I've got a 1993 Disco 200-TDi 2.5l turbodiesel and I can attest that they are extremely reliable,
purely mechanical diesel with no electronics.
Body panels are aluminum so no rust, tough plastics for interior trim.
Only problems with my Disco:
-The LT77 manual gearbox is clunky and rough, making driving this car a chore.
Wish it was an automatic instead.
-Excessive body roll on cornering rendering vehicle highly unstable.
-Floor, underbody, pillars and roof are steel and prone to rusting.
As soon as I saw the CAR WIZARD, I immediately trusted his advice, good stuff
I have a 2012 Evoque. They are NOT reliable by any chance.
compared to their siblings, they are a tad more reliable...
I do remember Car Wizard saying that at the beginning of the video that the Evoques are a little more reliable. Not as reliable as a Lexus.
Don't the ones of that year use the ford fusion engines, but crap electronics
@@3052022 They do. 2.0 Turbo Ecoboost. Had an engine rebuild couple months ago due to sludge..
@@az7378 100%. Nothing can beat Toyota/Leuxs
Off- Roader
Land Cruiser 76 2 Door 4x4,
Suzuki Jimny 2 Door,
Mitsubishi Montero P 2 Door 4x4
SUV/MINI-SUV
Subaru XV,
Honda CR-V,
Toyota RAV4,
Toyota Corolla Cross
Super interested in a"This Not That" on Volvo.
No point. They're all excellent through 2008 at least, with the xc90's through 2015. For rwd, go 940 not 240. Don't bother with turbo unless youve gotta have it.
Overall best Volvo ever is the 2001-2007 XC70 wagon, post-05 ideally. All the P2's really. Not the most refined Euros but a good balance of quality, performance, value, durability, and elegance.
@@reallyhappenings5597 Informative though I prefer my 960 over a 940 and my 740 over a 240. I was more wondering his experience with S40/60/80/90 fix-ability and long term issues as they are modern.
@@bobbymcearlton Agreed on 960s. I have two P2 V70's, both excellent. Easy enough to work on. Unlike most opinionators, I have basically mastered the maintenance of these vehicles over the past five years. You name it I've done it. A little cramped underneath but that's fwd. The NA 5-cylinder is just dead simple and I expect great longevity. Good rust resistance. A couple of glitches that will come up but they're simple to resolve. Volvos post-Gheelee (?) I know little about and probably wouldn't buy, but only bc I want a car with a bit of identity and history. They were generous with the aluminum on the P2's: block, head, trans case, rear subframe, hood, control arms. Modern tech but very easy to troubleshoot with OBD. Good safety. Tuneable for big power but that's not really what they are. Very simple really once you know them. Suspensions are very typical.
The P80's I'm less thrilled about, owned one of those. Nearly identical structure as the P2's but the P2's are a more refined execution of that concept of what a car could be. Volvo tried several different one-off rear suspensions through the 90s, from solid live axle on the old rwd's, to a sort of primitive multilink using a single fiberglass spring (the S90's), to a wonky delta-link on the P80's (two overlapping triangles) to the 4-part multilink on the P2's that is still popular today.
@@reallyhappenings5597 Yes, my 96 965 has the IRS suspension, glorious looking thing. Havn't gone newer than 96' with my volvos though a 2002 xc70 did show up on my local second hand for $500 cad round a month ago, "weak cylinder" the said.
I had a 2006 LR3 and ran up the mileage to 170k before I got rid of it and it was hands down one of the best vehicles I've ever owned (and I've owned over 350 vehicles). The gas mileage was nothing to write home about, but It had the factory rear locker and it went anywhere and it was an Amazing Camping Rig. It was also extremely reliable, had very few issues in all of those miles.
Freelander 2 2013 running here in Austria without any problems ;-)
Just like mine in the UK
I daily drive my 1997 Range Rover 4.6 HSE (also known for problems...) since a few years but it´s pretty reliable ! I have to mention that i replaced the suspension air bags before they were aged to badly. The old Buick sourced V8 is fun to drive and expect some gasket problems and bad MPG very good.
There’s a Land Rover across the street that goes nowhere. Sits most days curbside....... I want to rescue it
Dont do it!
@@ubbgn I can see you violently shaking your head saying that.
It's probably waiting on parts to get here, that's what Land Rovers do.
Four years ago I bought a 2010 Range Rover Sport HSE with 99,000 miles on it. I traded my paid off 2007 Escalade and left the dealer owing just $11,000 for the Rover. When I got it home I had it serviced for about $800. Today it has 114,000 miles on it. The only time it has ever gone down in four years is when the battery died. It has been unexpectedly very reliable, it's fast and fun to drive. One of the BEST vehicle purchases I've ever made.
I bought a 2009 BMW 750Li eight months ago. It had only 85,000 miles on it and had a clean (on paper) maintenance history. I paid $12,000 for it. Sadly, it cost me $6000 to stop all the BMW "bongs" that started two days after I bought it. Additionally, BMW are the total cost of rebuilding the engine due the bad valve stem seals. It hasn't given me any problems in 4 months, but I still get scared every time I turn it on that another "bong" is coming. One of the worst vehicle purchases I've ever made. Actually, it's the worst vehicle purchase I've ever made.
Wizard, can I replace, the aluminum V-8 in the Land Rover with a Buick 3800 V-6 (buick 3800 supercharged)???
Both are Buick engines. Remember Buick sold the V-8 to Land Rover in 1967. Are the bellhousing the same????🤔🤔
Can Hoovie dig up the Land Rover and swap in a buick V-6 3800 supercharged engine(cast iron).
That's a hell of a good question - I hope the wizard knows. The 215 V-8s were designed in 1960. I think they came with the standard BOP bellhousing config. I don't THINK 3800s ever came in anything without a transaxle. Maybe one of the older 3.8 turbos. Sorry, I was wrong about the bellhousing - the 215 fits onto a hydramatic trans. The bellhousing pattern doesn't look anything like a later BOP.
Bellhousing doesn't match. What I recommend is swap the engine together with matching transmission. There are adapters to mate most common Chevy transmissions with LT230 transfer case. On Defender 90/110, Ranger Rover Classic or Discovery 1 it's quite straight forward. On modern Landrover forget it.
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I have a land Rover, I want a Buick V-6 3800 (300,000+ miles) supercharged engine.
Lighter in weight (6 vs 8 cylinder), better balance ( shorter engine) has 5" or 6" set back.
@@pfacka
Thanks for the help. But my Series I uses a Z.F. transmission (Great transmission) with 4-wheel drive. I have not thought of two wheel drive. I know some chevy (rear wheel drive) Camaro had Buick 3800 engine & 1989 Trans Am (R.W.D.) used Buick 3800. I guess I need to think 🤔 about two wheel drive.😳 A manual transmission with two wheel DRIVE😳.
Thanks for this! Big help breaking it down
My favorite Land Rover is the 2018 Subaru Outback.