Why your IQ doesn't really matter?

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  • @JustinSung
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  • @peamutbubber
    @peamutbubber Год назад +162

    100% agree, whenever someone says ohhh ur so smart because you do maths, I cringe inside. It's not about being smart it's about interest leading to a snowball effect of thinking, understanding, learning, growing and all things good. I was always good at numeracy, but my mathematical thinking entered a hyperbolic time machine to the future, once I started putting in effort and developing passion. ITS A MINDSET

    • @IsomerSoma
      @IsomerSoma Год назад +12

      Yeah no. Of course you learn through exposure to a subject, but by how much and how quickly you improve is majorly dependent on intelligence. I am studying maths. I have great fun with fields such as measure theory. Yet i will never be good enough to do research in pure mathematics and others won't even get the point where i am - due to a lack of talent. It's out of reach. I think it's kind of insulting by people who do have a natural advantage to deny this fact to seem humble or even for the best intentions like justin to motivate people to improve. Sure you can, but it is so much harder and so much more limited when being of average intelligence and some things you won't be able to achieve. Especially in mathematics intelligence is key. The gap between e.g. me and top students is immense.
      Mindset is nice, but without intelligence for academic success it isn't of much use. Methods of learning are useful, but how efficient such methods are is greatly dependent on your intelligence as well.

    • @DeusPsycho
      @DeusPsycho Год назад +2

      You watch Eric Bugenhagen by any chance?

    • @DeusPsycho
      @DeusPsycho Год назад +24

      @@IsomerSoma this idea that there is some level of abstraction that is only in the realm of conceptualization to those with the highest computational firepower is something I see a lot in young, disillusioned people.
      Just because others are inherently better than you at general problem-solving, doesn't eliminate you from solving those same problems, nor is inherent ability the only factor that influences the ability to solve problems. Don't fall into the temptation of projecting a sense of inadequacy onto your potential.

    • @-scrim
      @-scrim Год назад

      Not really, but that helps!

    • @IsomerSoma
      @IsomerSoma Год назад +1

      @@DeusPsycho I didn't say it is impossible for the most part, but significantly harder or easier dependening on your level of intelligence. I personally have no spot in research mathematics. I simply lack the talent necessary for it. I often understand less about a topic at the end of the semester than the best students do in the lecture it is first presented in. Can i improve? I hope so, but the amount to which i can is i fear very limited.
      I feel constantly like playing out of my leauge while studying mathematics. I have fun with problem sheets, but i perform poorly in exams. I would assume studying anything else but math my life would be siginficantly easier at the moment.

  • @johnz7167
    @johnz7167 Год назад +14

    I have an ADHD like brain, I always put effort on my approach in every subject in med school. I realised that I can’t changed my fixed brain capability, but I can change on how I can learn something and allow myself to have better grades.

  • @DeusPsycho
    @DeusPsycho Год назад +26

    Intuition is cognitive and cognition can be restructured. Being smart is simply noticing patterns, so if one develops a mathematical intuition (as maths is the study of relationships i.e patterns), then they become smarter. Some are born this way and others need to mould their thinking into this. Some make a mess of their mind and others don't.

    • @timetraveller2818
      @timetraveller2818 Год назад +1

      Agreeeee. This comment is insightful

    • @hannahnewnham4220
      @hannahnewnham4220 5 месяцев назад +1

      There are many different types of pattern recognition! I have excellent pattern recognition when it comes to stories and people because those are my interests. I would like to also note that there are other components to intelligence as well, such as the ability to critically think.

  • @edgarperez8949
    @edgarperez8949 Год назад +21

    Totally agree, IQ is overrated, it is true that some people are more naturally gifted for certain things, but intelligence is not static, you can become more intelligent, you can learn to think better, maybe I will never be a genius level math guy, but that doesn't mean I can't learn math very well or any other subject. if you learn the correct methods and work hard, with an average (healthy, normal) intelligence you can break the "limits" imposed on you by people who say you can't just because you scored low in some standardized test.

    • @-scrim
      @-scrim Год назад

      Wrong lol

    • @timetraveller2818
      @timetraveller2818 Год назад +1

      ​@@-scrim You're wrong. Intelligence is NOT static.

  • @leonardohamdany1123
    @leonardohamdany1123 Год назад +7

    one thing i like from this guy is that he always make contents that persuates you to join his course, ( because it's really good for sure ), and he walk the talk

  • @tennery
    @tennery Год назад +33

    Hey Justin, I just wanted to say thanks and that this video in particular has really boosted my confidence. Before, even though I was a lot more motivated and willing to study thanks to your course, I still believed that there was an intellectual limit for people because of IQ tests. Or course, such a thing still could exist, and it's still definitely worth the debate but your logical explanation for the topic just made me feel a lot better in general.

  • @uga3086
    @uga3086 Год назад +30

    Many people overemphasise iq, which is something we cant control, when interest,ambition and best suited method and mindset can get you a long way too (something we can control).

    • @TheThreatenedSwan
      @TheThreatenedSwan Год назад +3

      Not really. It is quite under-emphasized. Plus the g factor highly influences motivation

    • @conorpalmer2710
      @conorpalmer2710 Год назад

      interest and ambition is not something you can control. You're either interested in something, or you're not. At the end of the day everyone's genes affects everything about their lives, with some exceptions to an environment

    • @uga3086
      @uga3086 Год назад +3

      @@conorpalmer2710 you can control it to an extent by using the right methods. I was miserable at languages because I didn’t understand it’s importance and I didn’t enjoy studying it either. It was extremely boring in school. Now I’m studying around 3 foreign languages in my free time and that interest was ignited by the right methods. At first I had no interest but because I wanted to move to a foreign country which meant I had to study them, I was able to be interested in it by techniques and mindset. 🤷‍♀️

    • @conorpalmer2710
      @conorpalmer2710 Год назад

      @@uga3086 so you developed an 'interest' because you knew you HAD to learn them because you were moving countries. Interest isn't born out of having to do something, you do it because you enjoy it. I'm obviously not trying to have a go at you here, but also how could you not understand the importance of languages? Is the purpose of languages not obvious? I think we're also talking about two different things, because I'm referring to even when you do understand the purpose/importance of something, that doesn't mean you will instantly enjoy it (genes), but it seems you're talking about when you understand the importance and you do enjoy it

    • @uga3086
      @uga3086 Год назад +1

      @@conorpalmer2710 I’m proficient in English which is spoken world wide. I didn’t really have an interest in culture or how languages even worked, which is why I declared it as unimportant, not for the whole world, but for me. They were brought about as simple facts to me, not something I could play around with like in maths and computer science. I didn’t enjoy it because of how school taught it to me. ( I joined a school with another second language I wasn’t accustomed to and the teacher just decided to make me memorise paragraphs/answers to common test questions because I didn’t have time or resources or methods, especially online, to catch up with the others). Being exposed to Noam Chomsky and seeing culture/history with a different light brought about an interest. It broke the fixed beliefs I had and hence a simple change in mindset brought about an interest.
      Also you are contradicting yourself, as technically interest was born out of needing to study languages to move out. Interest and enjoyment are terms that are literally interchangeable, it’s odd to use one as a reason for another as they are, quiet simply, terms, not reasons. I’m not only talking about importance because it does play a factor in giving meaning to your work but also the methods/mindset involved in bringing about an interest. If you want to boil down interest to just genes, props to you but many find it a restricting concept because interest isn’t a static state. There’s a lot underneath that goes about motivation/interest, actionable gamification is a good book to start.

  • @ClearBlueSky1
    @ClearBlueSky1 Год назад +10

    One thing that really stuck with me that made me more curious about your study methods is your fly flying constantly into a wall anology which I think was what I was doing for most of my life except whenever I learned and enjoyed things literally by accident whenever I learnt a hobby or something I was interested in. The fact that I hate studying the way we've been taught to but actually enjoy learning is something I've started come to terms with, and there's so much content in just your yt videos that I can't wait to enroll in your course and learn more about learning!!thank you for putting this type of content out here 🙌✨️

  • @aakankshadesai5538
    @aakankshadesai5538 Год назад +9

    Talk in maths.. my maths teacher said this. Talk eng vs think Hindi vs maths?? Was confused but now I get that we can train ourselves to think about maths. Plus- Astrology example was so funny. What is my iq? Idk, I don't care neither should you. Awesome! Best part-- critical thinking: looks like I m not dumb only the method could be not working. It detaches me from limiting beliefs about myself that society has trained to think in a certain way. Thank you Justin!

    • @JustinSung
      @JustinSung  Год назад

      Glad to see the video helped you out!

  • @MH-bf4uu
    @MH-bf4uu Год назад +22

    absolutely right! I always thought I was stupid because I was studying but not getting results. Turns out it was because I was always taking notes and because note taking took so long, I never had time to go over the notes

    • @holierthanmao1609
      @holierthanmao1609 Год назад +4

      The issue becomes that note taking is an assignment to be submitted in schools. So in a lecture we just end up becoming young stenographers copying teacher's words verbatim.

    • @miko-ee
      @miko-ee 10 месяцев назад

      Suggest you only make selective notes for things you struggle with or summary notes or mindmaps for connecting ideas for each chapter and other subjects I don't make notes Because they're practical there's no point writing load and loads of notes without practice
      We can't get away from notes completely, are impossible to do, but you can definitely reduce it

  • @rickjames5691
    @rickjames5691 Год назад +6

    Something seems off. Not sure if this video is him lying to himself or the audience. Comparing the UMAT to an iq test percentile for percentile is a gross misrepresentation. Iq tests are given to a random selection of the general population. Therefore the percentile you get on the test, given the same level of foreknowledge about the test as the randomly selected(ideally zero) then your percentile will reflect your cognitive ability compared to others. The UMAT is a different animal. Those sitting for the test are doing so intentionally because of their interest in medicine and desire to go to medical school. That group of people doesn’t represent the general population. The average college student has an iq of 115. Therefore I think it’s fair to say that those interested in medicine are slightly higher than that. If the people who are interested in medicine and take the UMAT have say an average iq of 120 (90 percentile) then the 50th percentile score on that test represents the 90th for the general population. If thats the case then the guy in the video scoring 75th percentile puts him quite a ways above a 120 iq. Mind you that was with zero preparation which doesn’t reflect the state of the average test taker. Once he’d prepared up to the range of other test takers and scored 98th percentile, that’s a more accurate representation of his score relative to the average UMAT test taker. Not sure how that score transfers exactly to an iq test given that (UMAT) 50th percentile is 120, but you can be sure it’s over 140 (Probably by a good bit). This guy is clearly quite gifted. He’s likely downplaying his intelligence as a sales strategy. Something a high iq salesman would do.

  • @annale-so3fj
    @annale-so3fj Год назад +2

    could you do a video on what to do in a lecture? the thought process to retain it after when u dont have the option to rewatch it

  • @mattxgill
    @mattxgill Год назад +7

    My favorite thing about Justin is that he admits he’s not perfect

  • @priyankathakare5708
    @priyankathakare5708 Год назад +7

    Hii sir. I wish to join your course in next month as I wish to be damn genius. Hope to work with you soon!!

  • @shellyt556
    @shellyt556 Год назад +2

    This is very encouraging. Thank you!

  • @iReaperYo
    @iReaperYo Год назад +3

    Brilliant is a top sponser so not mad at the promo, they're genuine.

  • @BrianGlaze
    @BrianGlaze Год назад +4

    For those interested, I found 3 peer reviewed articles on Neural Plasticity:
    Adult Neuroplasticity: More Than 40 Years of Research
    Review: adult neurogenesis contributes to hippocampal plasticity
    Neural Plasticity and Behavior - Sixty Years of Conceptual Advances

    • @peamutbubber
      @peamutbubber Год назад +1

      goes without saying people can completely overhaul themselves even in short periods like a year

  • @kielvostro
    @kielvostro Год назад +27

    To be honest, I feel like school is currently designed for us to fail in real life. They mold us to think and act the same way, rewarding obedience. Failure or mistakes are seen as negative, when in life it is part of the actual learning. Grades are being used as a measure of success. And I think the only purpose of the school is just to have a diploma. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating people not to go to school but I think they must be aware of these things so that they can manage and work their way up on these issues. Schools must change these things.

    • @tennery
      @tennery Год назад +7

      I agree. Here in South Korea the academic pressure is pretty harsh. Some kids don't strive to do better academically and they don't try their absolute best at their school because they feel like they already failed. Their test scores act as a form of validation for their future success in life. Worse thing is, adults act in the same way. They treat test scores as a student's intellectual limit, and based on it they judge kids and treat them differently.
      The "smart" kids are praised and put on a pedestal. The "lazy" kids are scolded and are constanty told to do better and try harder.
      Except those "lazy" kids aren't inherently "lazy". They've just never gotten the confidence, motivation and interest to study.
      I say this because I've been one of the "lazy" kids.
      The society here is kinda toxic and I hope it changes for the better.
      *Of course I want to highlight the fact that I am speaking generally and school life definitely isn't all morbid here. There are definitely exceptions. This comment was just based on my own personal experience and observations.

    • @MinieAnne
      @MinieAnne Год назад +3

      It's actually a real problematic in the education is school should just training students for certain work and that's actually what's parents wants or should they just educate children and teach them critical thinking ....

    • @pregerzoreo4886
      @pregerzoreo4886 Год назад +2

      Look up schooling in capitalist America Bowls and Gintis... You will be surprised how real what you just said is

    • @TheThreatenedSwan
      @TheThreatenedSwan Год назад +1

      It has become feminized and discouraged competition much quicker than the outside world, and even as the whole of society becomes more feminized and obsessed with equity, there will still be a premium on being competitive especially if you can cynically exploit the system

    • @MinieAnne
      @MinieAnne Год назад

      @@TheThreatenedSwan yes obviously the problem is feminist....we should just enslave women so that they know their place 😉🤷‍♀️🙄

  • @alf73
    @alf73 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm struggling to accept that I am not better than everyone else, do you have any advice?

  • @looolqwertyuiop
    @looolqwertyuiop Год назад

    Do you know that after listening to you for hours I became a really good performer to the point that I became the main keynote speaker in many events in my first year at university. And it true, If you konw how to think, you’ll probably know how to speak. AND important tip :Always put the listener and the reader in your consideration when you are speaking and writing, this is key.

  • @gothparadigm
    @gothparadigm Год назад +2

    this serves as a constant reminder of self-efficacy. your expression is always so satisfyingly succinct.~ 🎍

  • @moemalkawi8333
    @moemalkawi8333 Год назад +14

    Unfortunately, there are subsets in intelligence that can't really be improved by learning to learn like Working Memory and Processing Speed, but for everything else, I completely support your statements. The methods of learning you teach are based largely on relational learning which promotes relational training in a big-picture kind of way. Relational training is currently a very promising method of helping to boost FSIQ through Relational Frame Theory (Cassidy et al. 2016).

    • @drewdaprince
      @drewdaprince Год назад +3

      Yes but there are other ways to improve those, working memory and processing speed can be improved by your diet, exercise and also through meditation

    • @moemalkawi8333
      @moemalkawi8333 Год назад +4

      @@drewdaprince Well that isn’t called improvement, rather its called returning to baseline, since having a bad diet and/or being over weight act as barriers to cognition. by removing them you returnto your god given abilities. Micronutrients are also important since for an example having a low vitamin b12 concentration suppresses working memory severely, and diet can’t always fix them due to differing absorption rates and abilities. So, i’d recommend getting them checked routinely.

    • @BeWiseQ
      @BeWiseQ Год назад

      @@moemalkawi8333ou didn't pay enough attention to the last word : meditation.... or attention exercices are a powerful way to improve your working memory and other cognitive functions. I recommend that you read Peak Mind by Dr Amishi

    • @sisyphus_strives5463
      @sisyphus_strives5463 Год назад +2

      @@moemalkawi8333 mental illnesses can also be barriers to your cognitive ability, there is a phenomenon called ‘pseudo-dementia’ that occurs for some with depression for example

    • @Hellos2372
      @Hellos2372 9 месяцев назад +1

      Could you explain more on why working memory and processing speed can't be improved at all no matter what you do?
      Could you also elaborate more on relational training?

  • @totheknee
    @totheknee Год назад +1

    A sponsor plug that actually makes sense in the context of the video topic. This is rare.

    • @sohamjain8599
      @sohamjain8599 9 месяцев назад

      Means he made false video for sponsor

  • @iReaperYo
    @iReaperYo Год назад +2

    IQ is more so the speed of learning and comprhending. I do agree the tests aren't great measure but intelligence is a thing for sure.

    • @elasticharmony
      @elasticharmony Год назад

      learning on th spot with no recourse and understanding questions that have no or every little refferences then yes that is all it is ; but , this is a very big thing in life.

  • @0doublezero0
    @0doublezero0 Год назад +3

    You have to be very careful about this assumption. You didn't take an IQ test with a professional such as a psychologist. There are still aspects of the exam that can't be overcome with studying. Yes you can study for it, but you will hit a plateau regardless since there is a fluid intelligence portion you can't study for.

  • @Dank_Lulu
    @Dank_Lulu Год назад +7

    Missed opportunity to post the video on april fools and have it be a 2 second clip where you just look at the camera and say "at least 169" with a straight face.

  • @Darknight526
    @Darknight526 Год назад +13

    It is true that if you did have a genius-level IQ, you wouldn't need to study 15-20 hours a day for those 9 months to get into Medical School.
    Often times this nature vs nurture question is the same in many different domains. For example, lifting weights (genetics vs training/sleep/nutrition).
    I think we all, with our bad mental frameworks such as black-or-white thinking (nature vs nurture), fixed mindset (I am too stupid to do 'x subject'), and not learning how to learn can really hurt us as students of not just school, but students of life in general.
    Great video Dr. Sung!

    • @peamutbubber
      @peamutbubber Год назад +1

      in life, genes matter until you are born, then they don't! because genes are the one thing you can't change!!!

    • @ponoleruo2796
      @ponoleruo2796 Год назад +1

      that was phrased so well you and Dr. Sung helped me understand ironically my thinking was my downfall just in a way i was not expecting

    • @arihaviv8510
      @arihaviv8510 8 месяцев назад

      ​​@@peamutbubberbut what are the specific genes involved?

  • @webdcmarvel3241
    @webdcmarvel3241 Год назад +1

    Make video on how to think when solving numericals and maths problem and remeber there formulas

  • @yuliavaiman7626
    @yuliavaiman7626 2 месяца назад

    Love the ideas you brought in this video! Thank you!

  • @Agastya_9
    @Agastya_9 Год назад +1

    Sir can you please make specific video on learning physics and being able to solving physics problems please

  • @totheknee
    @totheknee Год назад +2

    It's sad that over 300 million in the US have not seen this video. Especially the bigots on the extreme right of the conservative spectrum. Everyone should be thinking: "if an IQ test measures your actual intelligence, then how can you train just your IQ test skill and magically become more intelligent?" Proof by contradiction. I love it.

    • @arihaviv8510
      @arihaviv8510 8 месяцев назад

      It's sad that you think you know better than professional psychometricians based on a RUclips video

  • @J0VIN
    @J0VIN Год назад +3

    Alternate Title: Why your IQ Doesn't Really Matter (coming from a 0.1% Student)

  • @MrDjhealth
    @MrDjhealth 9 месяцев назад

    If someone dropped out of college 30 years ago, rarely reads or learns, and has never really adopted any study method, would starting with your study systems be more effective or easier than using conventional study techniques if that individual wants to go back to college for a degree?

  • @FellTheSky
    @FellTheSky 11 месяцев назад +1

    I'm sorry but IQ is everything. The fact that you can study a test to mess the results doesn't prove anything.
    Give a 70 iq test person 10 years to study. Make him/her do 10 different tests. It would be all the same.
    What matter isn't the test it self. Is your ability to detect patterns. It's a natural skill. Put a normal person to play chess against a chess champion. It wont matter the "preparation" he can make. He could be born again retaining his memories and practice from birth. It would not make a difference, he would not be able to beat it. Because he cannot detect the patterns as a person with high intelligence can.
    Ofc if that high IQ person is born in the jungle and gets eaten by a tiger, IQ won't make a difference there. But in the corporative ladder jungle, it does make a difference.

    • @arihaviv8510
      @arihaviv8510 8 месяцев назад

      But why can't he detect the patterns without a wide training on a variety of different patterns? The whole thing seems very vague

  • @juliandiiulio3900
    @juliandiiulio3900 Год назад +2

    You´re one of the best 3 proffesors I know

  • @scottplatts5874
    @scottplatts5874 28 дней назад

    Thank you

  • @JWStreeter
    @JWStreeter Месяц назад

    IQ is not overrated. Ask any parent, if you want succesful kids, would you prefer they have an IQ or 80 or 140? No one is going to pick the former. So how can it not matter? The Just World Hypothesis is behind this sort of thinking, as well the Dunning Kruger effect. I see this often with people who excel at math, physics, etc. They act like hard work is all that mattered, and take their intelligence for granted, assuming others are just as capable as they are. Less intelligent folks would have to work monomentally harder to even have a basic understanding of high level disciplines like calculus and may eventually reach the limits of their ability. The people who worked hard were the people who had the innate ability to understand difficult concepts and were able to reap the benefits of their hard work because it has a tangible positive outcome. When we find someone with an IQ of 80 who can do theoretical physics or nuclear engineering, let me know.

  • @oregano19
    @oregano19 3 месяца назад

    The brain is quite similar to the body (neuroplasticity and stuff). You can train it and get it fit and healthy. That's how you get smart.

  • @jackeline155
    @jackeline155 Год назад

    You're humble and confident at the same time 🥰

  • @Andy-lo9sp
    @Andy-lo9sp Год назад +7

    There's a ton of very well replicated research over the past 100+ years that IQ is strong and stable predictor of a wide battery of life outcomes. They weren't just invented on a whim; they're arguably the most predictive finding in all of psychometrics. That's not to say that they're perfect / there are asymmetries (e.g. the practice effect as you said, different people having asymmetrical skills in different things, etc), but the whole "IQ is meaningless" claim that some people like to throw around is just pop science nonsense.

    • @elasticharmony
      @elasticharmony Год назад

      yes people should take more serious what they can actually do , desire is useful in many cases but many fail and their society with it beause they do not accept their ablilties.

    • @goldencookie5456
      @goldencookie5456 Год назад +1

      IQ is not meaningless, but it's not as important as to be a primary determinant to your success in life, nor to whether you would be able to learn complex topics efficiently. Learning, regardless of IQ, if done correctly, can be extremely efficient.

    • @-scrim
      @-scrim Год назад

      @@goldencookie5456 If intelligence is not the primary "determinant" to your success in life, then what is? What else is more causally correlated to various metrics of success (e..g income) than intelligence as measured by IQ (&c.)?
      I mean, anyone can learn; sorta. But of course, "knowledge" and "intelligence" are not the same thing.

    • @goldencookie5456
      @goldencookie5456 Год назад

      @@-scrim IQ and intelligence aren’t the same thing by many many definitions of intelligence. Intelligence for some definitions, may correspond to IQ, but that’s only some of the many ways intelligence is defined.
      Just because I think IQ isn’t a primary determinant doesn’t mean I think intelligence isn’t as well. I probably believe in the power and accessibility of intelligence far more than you and most others do.
      You could have trash garbage IQ, and be far better than someone with 160 IQ at making the right conclusions on philosophical topics, or in making decisions in life, or even in problem solving for businesses, and much much more. IQ is a really trash measure of intelligence since it measures very specific areas. It’s not trash overall and can be quite helpful, but it is trash if your objective is to measure more important facets of or a wider range of intelligence.

    • @IvanBraginX
      @IvanBraginX Год назад +3

      ​​@@-scrim your parents' income, maybe?
      I mean there are exceptions, but rich people tend to have rich children...

  • @tay5088
    @tay5088 Год назад

    can you do a video on how to stay focused and study in a constant state of fear ? if that makes sense like in a harsh environment ?

  • @teron-v4h
    @teron-v4h Год назад +4

    That being said, a raw IQ test result without training is kinda legit (they are consistent from my experience). However, I can definitely say that, high IQ only means that you have high potential on doing certain things, especially those you are interested in. You still have to put in much effort unless you are genius level of high IQ. There are still underperforming intellectual gifted people.

  • @calamityxdusk
    @calamityxdusk 11 месяцев назад

    Very good video thank you Justin !

  • @nuwanda4609
    @nuwanda4609 2 месяца назад

    I think you lied about doing the MENSA test, because it is supposed to show the result, the only way it doesn't show is if you did it incredibly badly or you just speedran through the test randomly to check if it will show an IQ.

  • @rafaelonca
    @rafaelonca 9 месяцев назад

    Jordan Peterson actually said in one of the videos about IQ that is not really possible to study for those. Off course you can sharp your skills, but will be impossible to increase more than 15 points, who btw 15 points is one standard deviation, that's why MENSA accepts people with 130+.

  • @vashj9740
    @vashj9740 Год назад +3

    Hi Justin your video are inspiring, thanks for sharing. I have a problem (not related to the topic of discussion in this video) I forget things a lot. I would spend time studying but I don't remember 5 mins after. Sometimes I read the same thing over and over again but this takes to much time and I have a lot to cover. Please how can I improve my study habits? I really need help, thanks.

    • @JustinSung
      @JustinSung  Год назад +4

      Hey I have made a few videos that I think could help you out with some of the current problems you are facing.
      Here are a few, check them out and then let me know if that gives you a better idea on how to tackle those issues:
      ruclips.net/video/iWrxagzHSSY/видео.html
      ruclips.net/video/npALpfdatws/видео.html

  • @Musewhisperer
    @Musewhisperer Год назад

    You gave the answer at the beginning. You're good at concentration and applying methods you were taught, not that you reasoned.
    You have what most people who accumulate titles and achievements have : Scholar IQ. You're good at passing tests, which, unfortunately, is the only way we evaluate merit these days. IQ is only the horsepower of your mental processes.
    You can have the dumbest ideas, yet have an agreeable personality and ace tests, so people will think you're the bee's knees. But in reality, that says nothing about the quality of your ideas, or even the fact that you are able to create new ones without guidance.
    Scholar IQ is to paradigm-shifting intelligence, as a swimming pool is to the sea.

  • @achienbui9347
    @achienbui9347 Год назад +1

    When I use high order thinking, I usually have a habit of speaking loudly or silently. I feel that speaking my mind makes me more effective. So is this good? Should I just think connections in mind?

    • @raymeester7883
      @raymeester7883 Год назад +1

      That's not higher order thinking.

    • @achienbui9347
      @achienbui9347 Год назад

      @@raymeester7883 I have watched a large number of his videos, so I have a good understanding of high order thinking. The bottom line is to compare and contrast important points and group them in a meaningful way. I usually do this by speaking out loud my thoughts on the bottom line comparison, is this helpful? Should I stop saying this out loud and think it over in my head?

    • @raymeester7883
      @raymeester7883 Год назад

      @@achienbui9347
      You have to do comparison if speaking out aloud or thinking it makes a difference.
      As long as you compare and contrast important points and group them in a meaningful way, then it that's what it important.
      Which method makes you do the comparing and contrasting yourself better, speaking or thinking?

    • @gia1046
      @gia1046 Год назад

      @@raymeester7883 I think so too, it's important to connect ideas and group them in a meaningful way. It doesn't matter if you speak your mind or think it's in your head

  • @chasemoney9474
    @chasemoney9474 Год назад +9

    Technically your IQ would be higher than that 75% unless your only measuring against other people who also had 0 training prior to that high school exam. Otherwise your "fair" iq for that test should be closer to 90-95% as I would guess roughly 80% of the people taking it will have studied specifically for it if not more, so you should take 80% of the difference between your first and last test score. Which puts you on the ELITE end maybe closer to the 125-130 IQ.

    • @meghanarella3573
      @meghanarella3573 Год назад +10

      I am a 98 percentile on the IQ test still almost failed my 11tb grade chem test even with supreme hard work. Techniques are super important.

    • @studywithsoham2906
      @studywithsoham2906 Год назад

      @@meghanarella3573 LOL SAME

  • @firos5381
    @firos5381 Год назад

    i have a question i study a course for 3 years get out completing it and get a job and work there for 3 years doing something for 3 years would i be still having much of what i learned during my 3 years in college in my brrain to recall and use as i please if not what is the point

  • @minhducphamnguyen7819
    @minhducphamnguyen7819 19 дней назад

    I mean if you train for an iq test it means you cheat, IQ test are meant to test your cognitive abilities independent of any training or education you've undertaken. That's why it's recommended that you take a year off before retaking an iq test. I don't claim that the test doesn't have problem i think the way people perceive number and symbol may affect their performance in the test, not to mention test anxiety can affect the result but if the test taker are cooperative and they truly do not specifically train for the iq test then the result should be a close approximation of their abilities compare to other people. Saying the test is flawed because you train for it is the same as claiming the SAT is flawed for scoring you high knowing full well you bring material in your textbook to the test with you, it just seem disingenous.

  • @donnafoster5215
    @donnafoster5215 Год назад

    Interesting! Makes sense.

  • @fairuzastevenson9896
    @fairuzastevenson9896 Год назад

    Thank you

  • @user-pv3qg6st1m
    @user-pv3qg6st1m Год назад +1

    If it is true that results for IQ tests can always be improved if you just train for it, why would medical school use it as a selection tool in the first place instead of just make high school exams harder?

    • @studywithsoham2906
      @studywithsoham2906 Год назад

      same doubt bruh

    • @user-pv3qg6st1m
      @user-pv3qg6st1m Год назад

      ​@@studywithsoham2906 I think selection tools exist in that format because there is evidence that they are a predictor of success in medical school. But it is possible to argue that this correlation is caused by people who succeed in medical school being more likely to spend time practicing a boring IQ test like this, hence being more committed to medicine (conscientious). The problem is that all people who advocate for the idea that IQ can be improved benefit from more people believing that IQ can be improved, as this leads to more people buying their courses.

    • @studywithsoham2906
      @studywithsoham2906 Год назад

      @@user-pv3qg6st1m Yes Bro, I researched a lot about IQ, from many sources and I found that IQ generally remains more or less stable during our life.
      But I have one doubt. I don't know, how Justin is saying that he increased his IQ by practicing. Because he claimed that he had IQ of 130 before preparation of UMAT but after preparation He cleared it. He also gave that MENSA online test and it showed that his IQ level is out of measure. It clearly means that his IQ is above 145. I mean how it can increase that much.
      I think that Justin is already intelligent (145+ IQ) OR maybe he knew the solutions to those IQ questions already, because he said that he practiced alot for UMAT.
      Who knows... I am literally tired of this IQ research. Now onwards, I will just focus on myself, Whatever IQ I have. Because I think Real IQ cannot be increased highly by practice. But I will not leave indulding in brain storming activities like solving maths ques, Because It can improve our problem solving abilities but not IQ.

    • @user-pv3qg6st1m
      @user-pv3qg6st1m Год назад

      @@studywithsoham2906 I know a person's UCAT score was lowest in his admission cohort, but ends up getting top in the year. so on individual basis UCAT score certainly doesnt predict how well you gonna do

  • @samana4780
    @samana4780 8 месяцев назад

    This was such an interesting video

  • @maddson2088
    @maddson2088 Год назад

    Love this video

  • @berlenskyleger887
    @berlenskyleger887 Год назад

    "You should not be able to improve on a test to measure real intelligence by training for it"🤔 Not so sure of this argument because it seems underlie that intelligence is statics and cannot be improved, whose fact we know is a characteristic of fixed mindset.

    • @salman-11924
      @salman-11924 Год назад +1

      Okay so for us to confirm that intelligence has improved and not that we just tweaked the imperfect measurement tool to inflate our score, we’d need to see real life improvements in general learning ability of completely new unrelated things. That is to say we give you tests of things you have never encountered nor have similarities to things you encountered and measure your timed performance at those, and compare that with your prior baseline or with how other higher IQed people would perform on those tests. Apparently, what just happens is your score increases without it transferring to other general things.

  • @Fulfill_Your_Potential
    @Fulfill_Your_Potential Год назад +2

    Just studied IQ the other day

  • @robertarcher5833
    @robertarcher5833 Год назад +6

    This is my take.
    I am a firm believer that IQ can be Nurtured. Intelligence merely contributes towards how fast at which you learn. With that being known, you can increase your IQ by just being working hard and consistently.

    • @-scrim
      @-scrim Год назад +3

      Eh, not really.

    • @jigsaw2253
      @jigsaw2253 Год назад

      @@-scrim what do you mean not really?

    • @t.q.quinn25
      @t.q.quinn25 Год назад +1

      Neuroplasticity?

    • @salman-11924
      @salman-11924 Год назад

      That’s not how that works. IQ isn’t a measure of outcomes, it’s an imperfect measure of innate cognitive capacities to quickly solve unlearned problems.

    • @timetraveller2818
      @timetraveller2818 Год назад +1

      This needs research to validate this type of thinking

  • @ghostferatu6241
    @ghostferatu6241 Год назад +25

    His IQ is 112.
    You can skip the video now.

  • @thg1nrediar
    @thg1nrediar Год назад +1

    Good

  • @muhamedshehu7535
    @muhamedshehu7535 7 месяцев назад

    When I got my iq test results I was a bit disappointed, however when I found out that it was on 98th percentile my confidence flew off charts 📈 😂😂

  • @htetlin-ew8rz
    @htetlin-ew8rz Год назад

    Congrats

  • @eclipsedeucy1144
    @eclipsedeucy1144 Год назад

    Please create a system that train the brain to think on certain levels. Do this for me.

    • @JustinSung
      @JustinSung  Год назад +1

      I have already done that haha, my program iCanStudy helped students cognitively retrain the way they think to engage to engage in higher order learning.
      If you want to check it out here is the link: icanstudy.com/

  • @iReaperYo
    @iReaperYo Год назад

    really interesting

  • @justincerveny
    @justincerveny 8 месяцев назад

    IQ certainly matters. Without higher IQ you wouldn't understand the concepts

  • @Ropewatch
    @Ropewatch 10 месяцев назад

    Unlike all these fans here I am not very convinced. You are an example of a high IQ person telling people that IQ doesn’t matter. Meanwhile most people who make it this far in life have high IQ‘s. Maybe high IQ people do this to feel better about themselves.

  • @MagnusItland
    @MagnusItland Год назад

    Perhaps you have better mitochondria then, because this sounds like a lot of work.

  • @claraadvinfernandis538
    @claraadvinfernandis538 Год назад

    can please do live 🙂🙂

  • @zeg2651
    @zeg2651 11 месяцев назад

    When you take an IQ test, and you have a certain level of academic degree, your score will be adjusted because you have an "unfair advantage" for spending much of your time trying to think more intelligently

  • @TheThreatenedSwan
    @TheThreatenedSwan Год назад +2

    That IQ scores and IQ tests are not invariant even for the same persons across time is a problem, yes, but IQ tests will still tell you what percentile you are at for a given cohort at a snapshot in time. We can track the frequency of genes across time where we notice that for each generation the dumbest people of that generation have the most children, yet from about 150 years ago to 30 years ago in the West, native populations were still increasing in nominal IQ scores. The genes correlated with intelligence are declining in frequency (so ceteris paribus IQ _would_ be declining), yet the phenotypic score in increasing. This is a bit annoying to compare scores across time and different cohorts, but GWAS and algorithms examining brain activity are already solving that anyway. There are also scores that are more invariant and which are more g loaded. It is actually the tests that are less g loaded that are the most trainable.

  • @jennung7368
    @jennung7368 Год назад +1

    Lol I my iq is 95 with adhd

  • @mokshadpatil9933
    @mokshadpatil9933 Год назад

    To put his method in a nutshell:there are thousands of thoughts in our mind about a subject, learning how to think makes those 1000 thoughts to 200 thoughts but there is one more shortcut method.....(replies)

    • @mokshadpatil9933
      @mokshadpatil9933 Год назад

      Meditation acts as a lubrication making your brain capable of sorting/organizing those 1000 thoughts without much effort so for a hardcore meditator (4-5 months) it's easy to encode

    • @mokshadpatil9933
      @mokshadpatil9933 Год назад

      In case of an IQ person, his mind is already capable of 1500 thoughts so he naturally grabs any concept

    • @pedroewert143
      @pedroewert143 Год назад

      @@mokshadpatil9933 Would be interesting to see how that relates to other more western thinkers. One could say that deeply thinking about a scientific topic and always redirected your mind back to it might be similar to directing your mind to your breath. Or some thinkers like Edison held an object, then relaxed very deeply to the state were they fell into sleep, the object fell down and awakened them.

  • @jasondads9509
    @jasondads9509 Год назад +13

    I heard that iq is one of the best, most reliable tests in psychology...

    • @-scrim
      @-scrim Год назад +2

      Absolutely, it is.

    • @uga3086
      @uga3086 Год назад +1

      Well you heard wrong then. It’s big5/OCEAN that’s the most reliable test in psychology.

    • @raymeester7883
      @raymeester7883 Год назад +1

      It is.
      You also have to understand what "most reliable" means.

    • @jasondads9509
      @jasondads9509 Год назад +3

      @@raymeester7883 as in the bar for that in psychology isn't that high?

    • @raymeester7883
      @raymeester7883 Год назад

      @@jasondads9509
      High based on what.
      IQ's p-value is .2
      You have to know what you consider reliable and for what it's reliable for.

  • @ntowheew5196
    @ntowheew5196 Год назад +3

    can we raise our iq?

    • @ipilotaneva2586
      @ipilotaneva2586 Год назад

      yup! There are people who specifically take iq tests.

    • @sigiligus
      @sigiligus Год назад +3

      You can raise your IQ by learning specific skills weakly associated with intelligence, but you can’t really raise your general intelligence. You can increase your breadth of knowledge and learn how to squeeze the most out of what you have, but you can’t increase your raw horsepower. This is what is measured by the Flynn effect; people have not gotten more genetically intelligent, but our education system has taught people to think in more abstract and scientific ways over time, and this shows up as an increase in IQ.

    • @ntowheew5196
      @ntowheew5196 Год назад +1

      @@sigiligus what is general intelligence and horsepower?

    • @-scrim
      @-scrim Год назад +2

      Your IQ as in just a score on a paper? Yes.
      Your IQ as in what IQ actually measures (what we actually care about)? Not really.

    • @chasemoney9474
      @chasemoney9474 Год назад +1

      @@sigiligus wrong lmao there absolutely is proven genetic intelligence, this is why 80% of the difference from the Mean intelligence is your parents average intelligence, on average

  • @annale-so3fj
    @annale-so3fj Год назад

    u like the shorter hair on u

  • @zertbrown4642
    @zertbrown4642 Год назад

    eh I think iq matters

  • @darcash1738
    @darcash1738 Год назад +3

    How can I marry someone I know is going to pass on smart genes, then? 😂

  • @jakewalker1204
    @jakewalker1204 Год назад +12

    To be fair though, you scored in the 75th -98th percentile in the UMAT not in a regular IQ test. Thats in comparison to people that take the umat and not the general population. And since most people that take the umat are doing it to gain access to a career in the medical field, it would be expected that the average umat taker would have a well above average iq. I think we have to be realistic, study skills can improve your results drastically but its fairly obvious just dealing with people on a day to day basis we all have different genetic cognitive abilities. A person of average intelligence that uses the best study skills/techniques is still never going to be a great physicist.

    • @raymeester7883
      @raymeester7883 Год назад +5

      "A person of average intelligence that uses the best study skills/ techniques is still never going to be a great physicist."
      Based on what?

    • @TheThreatenedSwan
      @TheThreatenedSwan Год назад +1

      @@raymeester7883 Because IQ is so predictive of intellectual accomplishment. Scientific genius is about forming various connections including across domains and drawing new connections out to make better predictions. This is the nuts and bolts of what the g factor is not studying to some test. Also on some tests studying has a much greater effect than others.

    • @hi-mj5oi
      @hi-mj5oi Год назад +1

      @@TheThreatenedSwan predictive of intellectual accomplishment? Where is that shown

    • @TheThreatenedSwan
      @TheThreatenedSwan Год назад

      @@hi-mj5oi Income, patents, citations

    • @jakewalker1204
      @jakewalker1204 Год назад

      @@hi-mj5oi Well you could go on google scholar and just type "iq and academic achievement" and there will be hundreds of research papers showing just that.

  • @howiedick6857
    @howiedick6857 9 месяцев назад

    Anything that you can not change is irrelevant.