I use that pico scope at work for diagnosing power supply issues for hpcr diesel computers. The current software is every bit as good as what snapon offers in the vantage. The ability to capture your waveform is great for sending in for warranty claims. These computers shut down if they lose power for one millisecond and when you have power losses of just slightly over that time it causes all sorts of regen and drivability problems. Stuff so short even a Fluke can’t catch. The Pico is fantastic.
Great info, thanks for making a video on entry level scopes for non professionals. It gives a great starting point to be able to learn how to use them. 👍
"the venerable 1008c..." describes it well. It's been the beginner scope for many. Sure, they all progress to more expensive scopes later but it's where they got their start.
This was an interesting video, I had a 1008c a few years ago, Purley because of its price. I had a Nissan X trail that wouldn't start, I needed a scope to sync a fuel injector with the relative compression, it proved the injectors were firing at the wrong time. That car had previously been around lots of other garages and an auto electrician. I was pleased with the scope, but eventually wanted something better, I made the mistake of buying a hantek 6204be that was not much different. Now I have finally ordered a picoscope, from what I have seen, it's ability to take a Picket fence image and zoom in to a single event, is something hantek can't do. Great video mate, I've been looking forward to this.
Mechanic Matt It was your early videos that influenced my decision to buy the 1008C. Even though I already had the 2204A. The 8 channels appealed to me at that price point. I owe you a debt of gratitude. Between you and Dave (and others) I have learned a great deal. So thank you Matt and Cheers
Thanks, I think we all are learning all the time from our own experiences, and because we share videos we all learn together. If that makes sense. I just didn't want people to get the slightly more expensive hantek when there is almost no difference to the cheaper one. Thanks Ian
shaun craggs The 2204A is a great piece of kit. You will not be disappointed. If your new to using a scope (I am a novice myself) the learning it facilitates is astounding. Thx a lot & Thx for watching.
Thanks for this comparison video. I'm looking at buying my very first scope and looked at both of these. I was leaning towards the pico but was considering the Hantek because of it being 8 channeland thinking it might be handy if I get on well with scopes however I think I'll be going for the pico because if I do get on well enough to need 8 channels I'll probably want a more capable scope.
i dont mean to be offtopic but does any of you know of a way to log back into an instagram account..? I was stupid lost the account password. I appreciate any tips you can give me!
@Eden Levi i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site thru google and Im trying it out atm. I see it takes a while so I will reply here later with my results.
I will agree that HANTEX is really the true entry level scope but like life you have to learn to crawl first before you can run. If your getting a scope you are giing to do this to make money and help with your diagnostic skills but i am lookimg to step up my game to get a scope but first i made sure i had a good base first. This is why i say this. I have one customer that has a used car dealership and I do lots of work for him. He has a guy with a scope and every time he has done a job for him and well one job he did a relative compression test told my customer that his missfire was because of a bad injector replace the injector and it will be fixed. Took his money and left. I get a call to come replace the injector so i go and listen to the truck and told him just by listening it is not the injector. He still told me to replace it so i did and it did not change same problem. I did a compression test the cylinder had 0 for compression knowing that ford 3 valve are not a good design i opened up the valve cover and found that cylinder the valves dynamited nothing was wrong with the injector. So yes these are grate tools but first remember that mechanical parts can make electrical parts act different to
Don’t let the name brands fool you lmao they don’t do nothing anymore fancy than stuff like Hantek and Pico. They just charge an arm and a leg and says it’s professional
A good video, thanks. You absolutely cannot beat the Hantek 1008C for price, I bought one a few years ago in the Uk for £65 !!! Really looking forward to the next video in this series.
Thank you Sir. The 1008C is a great product. Prefect, no. But most hobbyists run out of skill/knowledge (myself included) before the Hantek let’s them down. Cheers & Thx again.
The 1008 is the biggest pile of ....... For a starter scope at absolute minimum cost the Owon VDS1022i is much more useful, the software and hardware are superior to Hantek. Pico make first class scopes and software but the 2204a is a bit on the slow side.
Great stuff Ian...I'll be honest I'm a pico scope software user but I dont have a pico scope....I just use others files to get familiar with the software at the moment....also dont have a need for one but maybe one day...😀😀
It’s an Aspire 1. It’s ancient. It runs on Windows 7. You don’t need anything fancy to run either of the scopes in this video. I bought it used cheap, years ago because of its compact dimensions. Full sized laptops are unwieldy inside vehicles. 🍻
What is the difference between Hantek 1008A, 1008B, 1008C? Only 1008A available now. Also why did you use CC65? Why not CC650? What's the upgrade version of Hantek 1008 in the Hantek family? Sorry too many questions. Thanks for the help!
I dont think there is any real difference in the A,B,C. Just the accessories that came in the kit. The CC65 is better suited for much lower current ranges. I don't believe Hantek has a new model low cost 8 channel scope, but they do produce some decent 4 channel versions ~$300. Cheers and thx for watching 👍
Like the video Ian. I always say the same thing. Before diagnosing and issue know your tools and know what your suppose to see. Glad to see your still using the v-pecker. Thanks for the vid
Thanks for taking the time and posting your video, I too have owned the Hantech for many years and think its a great budget scope and have been considering buying the budget Peco 2204a, do you think its worth it? The software maybe is better? also what version of Hantech software are you using in this video? Thanks
Hi....My Hantek 1008 runs on version 1.0.30. As far as the Pico 2204a is concerned the S/W (and H/W) is far better. If the limitation of only 2 channels is not an issue for you it’s a great scope. (cost of >2 channels is ridiculous IMO) If you have an android tablet check out “H Scope” app...cheap and you might dig it 👍 Cheers
would it measure 120v AC ? I need to troubleshoot a solid state 3 phase converter and i want to see if its actually phase shifting. spending $500 on a new 4 channel Siglent tech scope seems a waste.
DarkShadowsX5 Directly...No. I will refer you to this video (not mine) for a more complete answer to your question ruclips.net/video/3nQOJpyElKc/видео.html. Be fully aware it has a common ground plane. Thx for watching.
Sorry for this beginners question Sir.. Can I use this to read in 220VAC? Because I am looking oscillator for my project.. And based on the price hantec is more less cost. Thank you..
great video, thanks for sharing! would you please share the amp clamp/probe make and model you used for the tests? I find great selection of clamps on Aliexpress but they are all only measuring AC current.
Thx for subscribing. Fuse loops can be purchased on line pretty cheap. Search fuse buddy...they are expensive but some “copies” are quite reasonable. Mine came from Princess Auto (Canada’s Harbour Freight). Cheers
Hello. For automotive applications a couple of 20:1 attenuators are useful safeguards (HT201). More practical coax cables BNC/4mm are handy (HT30A). A set of back probes are useful. And a current clamp (CC-65) is super useful when your budget allows. Hantek Part numbers are provided (reasonable quality/price) but they can be had from many other sources. Cheers P.S: You Will of course need to download the applicable software to your laptop.
Thank you Sir..You can still change the V scale and time base on a captured image, but there is no “magnifier” like Pico. Pico scope is far superior in that regard. (Honestly in most regards 🤣) Cheers
Pretty sure PicoScope is the gold standard in the automotive industry. They make many models specifically for the trade. Care is required on ignition & injection circuitry on legacy automobiles…Hybrid and Electric vehicles is another matter…
Thank you Sir...The only Internet based training I have done in the passed is Paul Danner’s book and Premium Video subscription for about 2 years. 1st rate training. I believe he has a free trial period so you can see if it suits you. Thx again...Cheers 👍
Thank you for the review! Even though I’d love to have Pico price wise I have to settle for Hantek. I also like that you get more channels with Hantek. Have you had a situation where you used all 8 channels on Hantek? Also, I am getting conflicting information about Hantek’s ability to run on Windows 10. Do you know more about that?
Never used all 8 . Think the max has been 4 or 5…A fair criticism is that it is very slow by today’s standards. Not much of an issue for a hobbyist like myself. Thx for watching 👍
@@harryohanson Honesty, If you can spring for the extra dough…Yes. Another major concern with the 1008 is there is effectively no memory buffer. Yes you can set long time bases and zoom in but the loss of resolution limits that option. If you are looking at that model I think your back into Pico territory money wise. Not sure if more than 2 channels is a must for you? If not consider one of the 2000 series handheld Hantek’s. I purchased the cheapest one (2C42) and quite like it. (Display is very small) I find presets pretty much useless so the extra money for the “automotive” model is questionable in my mind. Admittedly the sig gen option might prove handy.
@@TheGibby3340 I would like PC based scope for sure. Gives me a bigger screen to work with. I work on motorcycles and have few that even techs at the manufacture support cannot help. So I was hoping to find help in scopes. Unfortunately like always the shop I work for I have no help coming regards to cost of the the tools or information. That’s why I am considering buying Hantek being it more cost effective. Unfortunately I also have hard time with electronics so trying to figure out what and where. Saying that I greatly appreciate your help!!! Thank you so much!!
@@TheGibby3340 The comment you replied too had a typo, I meant overestimate haha. Yeah That Hantek (in my circles at least, automotive performance and mobile diag) is the standard for those that refuse to spend $12,000 on a Snap-On Modis. Very interesting politics in automotive.
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I use that pico scope at work for diagnosing power supply issues for hpcr diesel computers. The current software is every bit as good as what snapon offers in the vantage. The ability to capture your waveform is great for sending in for warranty claims. These computers shut down if they lose power for one millisecond and when you have power losses of just slightly over that time it causes all sorts of regen and drivability problems. Stuff so short even a Fluke can’t catch. The Pico is fantastic.
Thx for watching 🍻
Great info, thanks for making a video on entry level scopes for non professionals. It gives a great starting point to be able to learn how to use them. 👍
Thx for watching 👍
"the venerable 1008c..." describes it well. It's been the beginner scope for many. Sure, they all progress to more expensive scopes later but it's where they got their start.
logical canuck Thx Denis...Promised this comparison many month ago. Time to make good! Cheers Pal
This was an interesting video, I had a 1008c a few years ago, Purley because of its price.
I had a Nissan X trail that wouldn't start, I needed a scope to sync a fuel injector with the relative compression, it proved the injectors were firing at the wrong time. That car had previously been around lots of other garages and an auto electrician.
I was pleased with the scope, but eventually wanted something better, I made the mistake of buying a hantek 6204be that was not much different.
Now I have finally ordered a picoscope, from what I have seen, it's ability to take a Picket fence image and zoom in to a single event, is something hantek can't do.
Great video mate, I've been looking forward to this.
Mechanic Matt It was your early videos that influenced my decision to buy the 1008C. Even though I already had the 2204A. The 8 channels appealed to me at that price point. I owe you a debt of gratitude. Between you and Dave (and others) I have learned a great deal. So thank you Matt and Cheers
Thanks, I think we all are learning all the time from our own experiences, and because we share videos we all learn together. If that makes sense.
I just didn't want people to get the slightly more expensive hantek when there is almost no difference to the cheaper one.
Thanks Ian
Another excellent video, thanks for sharing. As a beginner the Hantek is looking good. Cheers
Thx for watching 👍
Hi mate great video just bought a Pico 2204A as my first scope really looking forward to more of your videos cheers
shaun craggs The 2204A is a great piece of kit. You will not be disappointed. If your new to using a scope (I am a novice myself) the learning it facilitates is astounding. Thx a lot & Thx for watching.
Thanks for this comparison video.
I'm looking at buying my very first scope and looked at both of these. I was leaning towards the pico but was considering the Hantek because of it being 8 channeland thinking it might be handy if I get on well with scopes however I think I'll be going for the pico because if I do get on well enough to need 8 channels I'll probably want a more capable scope.
Sound logic. Thx for watching 👍
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@Eden Levi i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site thru google and Im trying it out atm.
I see it takes a while so I will reply here later with my results.
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Thank you so much you saved my account !
I will agree that HANTEX is really the true entry level scope but like life you have to learn to crawl first before you can run.
If your getting a scope you are giing to do this to make money and help with your diagnostic skills but i am lookimg to step up my game to get a scope but first i made sure i had a good base first.
This is why i say this. I have one customer that has a used car dealership and I do lots of work for him. He has a guy with a scope and every time he has done a job for him and well one job he did a relative compression test told my customer that his missfire was because of a bad injector replace the injector and it will be fixed. Took his money and left.
I get a call to come replace the injector so i go and listen to the truck and told him just by listening it is not the injector.
He still told me to replace it so i did and it did not change same problem.
I did a compression test the cylinder had 0 for compression knowing that ford 3 valve are not a good design i opened up the valve cover and found that cylinder the valves dynamited nothing was wrong with the injector.
So yes these are grate tools but first remember that mechanical parts can make electrical parts act different to
Yep well said, scopes have there place but will never replace mechanical aptitude. Thx for watching 👍
One advantage the Hantek has is multiple channels. Handy for crank and cam sensor analysis.
Agreed...Part two makes this point. Cheers 👍
Don’t let the name brands fool you lmao they don’t do nothing anymore fancy than stuff like Hantek and Pico. They just charge an arm and a leg and says it’s professional
Hello
thank you for the video and the coparison of the two oscilloscopes
Merci Stephane 👍
A good video, thanks. You absolutely cannot beat the Hantek 1008C for price, I bought one a few years ago in the Uk for £65 !!! Really looking forward to the next video in this series.
Thank you Sir. The 1008C is a great product. Prefect, no. But most hobbyists run out of skill/knowledge (myself included) before the Hantek let’s them down. Cheers & Thx again.
The 1008 is the biggest pile of .......
For a starter scope at absolute minimum cost the Owon VDS1022i is much more useful, the software and hardware are superior to Hantek. Pico make first class scopes and software but the 2204a is a bit on the slow side.
@@andrewwmacfadyen6958 Do you reckon the Owon is suitable for automotive use?
Good to know the best one
Ansong Daniel Danso Thank you Sir. Looks like your channel is doing quite well! Thanks for taking the time to comment. Cheers
@@TheGibby3340 yes still working on it
How are you getting the max and mid reading to display on the bottom of the screen ?
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I'm late to the party here, but I've heard the Hantek software can be a nightmare to load. Any input?????
Nah…I’m a dummy with all things software and I managed it. Be aware it is getting quite dated. Cheers 🍻
Great stuff Ian...I'll be honest I'm a pico scope software user but I dont have a pico scope....I just use others files to get familiar with the software at the moment....also dont have a need for one but maybe one day...😀😀
Johnny's Speed Shop Great product Johnny...Very tough to beat in any capacity! Cheers Pal
question, will the hantek 1008c work with autel scan tool instead of a loptop?
I have no idea what the Autel runs on…Requires windows 7,8 or 10.
another question, what windows version will be need to run or operate a hantek?
7,8 or 10. Thx for watching 👍
Godd video, what model acer laptop is that? Do you recommend for scope use ? Thanks
It’s an Aspire 1. It’s ancient. It runs on Windows 7. You don’t need anything fancy to run either of the scopes in this video. I bought it used cheap, years ago because of its compact dimensions. Full sized laptops are unwieldy inside vehicles. 🍻
What is the difference between Hantek 1008A, 1008B, 1008C? Only 1008A available now. Also why did you use CC65? Why not CC650? What's the upgrade version of Hantek 1008 in the Hantek family? Sorry too many questions. Thanks for the help!
I dont think there is any real difference in the A,B,C. Just the accessories that came in the kit.
The CC65 is better suited for much lower current ranges.
I don't believe Hantek has a new model low cost 8 channel scope, but they do produce some decent 4 channel versions ~$300. Cheers and thx for watching 👍
@@TheGibby3340 Thanks for the reply! How to use CC65 to look at current during start? The current will be higher than 65 amp?
@@mrweisu ruclips.net/video/28PhjhwpJtU/видео.html
Like the video Ian. I always say the same thing. Before diagnosing and issue know your tools and know what your suppose to see.
Glad to see your still using the v-pecker.
Thanks for the vid
Still rockin the Vpecker Jeremy. Perfect for my "operation"...The jokes are just gravy! Cheers Pal
Thanks for taking the time and posting your video, I too have owned the Hantech for many years and think its a great budget scope and have been considering buying the budget Peco 2204a, do you think its worth it? The software maybe is better? also what version of Hantech software are you using in this video? Thanks
Hi....My Hantek 1008 runs on version 1.0.30. As far as the Pico 2204a is concerned the S/W (and H/W) is far better. If the limitation of only 2 channels is not an issue for you it’s a great scope. (cost of >2 channels is ridiculous IMO) If you have an android tablet check out “H Scope” app...cheap and you might dig it 👍 Cheers
would it measure 120v AC ? I need to troubleshoot a solid state 3 phase converter and i want to see if its actually phase shifting.
spending $500 on a new 4 channel Siglent tech scope seems a waste.
DarkShadowsX5 Directly...No. I will refer you to this video (not mine) for a more complete answer to your question ruclips.net/video/3nQOJpyElKc/видео.html. Be fully aware it has a common ground plane. Thx for watching.
@@TheGibby3340 thanks
What software are you using?
Hantek V 1.0.30. Pico Six something….Don’t recall as I sold it sometime ago. Thx for watching 🍻
Thanks for the video.
Thx for watching. Cheers 👍
Sorry for this beginners question Sir.. Can I use this to read in 220VAC? Because I am looking oscillator for my project.. And based on the price hantec is more less cost. Thank you..
i have both but I got the 2205a
Thx for watching 🍻
Modern cars has electronic circuits... 😳😀👌
🤣 A few. 🍻
great video, thanks for sharing! would you please share the amp clamp/probe make and model you used for the tests? I find great selection of clamps on Aliexpress but they are all only measuring AC current.
Thx for watching. It’s the Hantek
CC65 it is widely available at quite reasonable cost. Cheers
For automotive what would you choose
Out of the 2 featured in this video? The PicoScope is a far better product. Thx for watching 🍻
Nice video, subscribed ;) Where would I get those extension bodies for a fuse? The specialized automotive for oscilloscopes cost way to much
Thx for subscribing. Fuse loops can be purchased on line pretty cheap. Search fuse buddy...they are expensive but some “copies” are quite reasonable. Mine came from Princess Auto (Canada’s Harbour Freight). Cheers
Hello great video. Besides the Hantek 1008c and a laptop, Can you please tell me what else is needed? Thank you very much!
Hello. For automotive applications a couple of 20:1 attenuators are useful safeguards (HT201). More practical coax cables BNC/4mm are handy (HT30A). A set of back probes are useful. And a current clamp (CC-65) is super useful when your budget allows. Hantek Part numbers are provided (reasonable quality/price) but they can be had from many other sources. Cheers
P.S: You Will of course need to download the applicable software to your laptop.
@@TheGibby3340 Thank you so much. I really appreciate you taking the time to reply and all the part #’s. Take care!
Good info. Thanks. Can the hantek not zoom in for greater detail like the pico did?
Thank you Sir..You can still change the V scale and time base on a captured image, but there is no “magnifier” like Pico. Pico scope is far superior in that regard. (Honestly in most regards 🤣) Cheers
I have read that if you use the Pico on automotive it voids the warranty. is this true?
Pretty sure PicoScope is the gold standard in the automotive industry. They make many models specifically for the trade. Care is required on ignition & injection circuitry on legacy automobiles…Hybrid and Electric vehicles is another matter…
Did you said Pico scope is not professional grade?
I hope not...Since I think it’s pretty much industry standard. I may have been referring strictly to the 2204A.
You are from the best for me, would you mind to recommend for me some online automotive training ?
Thank you Sir...The only Internet based training I have done in the passed is Paul Danner’s book and Premium Video subscription for about 2 years. 1st rate training. I believe he has a free trial period so you can see if it suits you. Thx again...Cheers 👍
Thank you for the review! Even though I’d love to have Pico price wise I have to settle for Hantek. I also like that you get more channels with Hantek. Have you had a situation where you used all 8 channels on Hantek? Also, I am getting conflicting information about Hantek’s ability to run on Windows 10. Do you know more about that?
Never used all 8 . Think the max has been 4 or 5…A fair criticism is that it is very slow by today’s standards. Not much of an issue for a hobbyist like myself. Thx for watching 👍
@@TheGibby3340 would you say than that Hantek 6074 model would be a better deal?
@@harryohanson Honesty, If you can spring for the extra dough…Yes. Another major concern with the 1008 is there is effectively no memory buffer. Yes you can set long time bases and zoom in but the loss of resolution limits that option. If you are looking at that model I think your back into Pico territory money wise. Not sure if more than 2 channels is a must for you? If not consider one of the 2000 series handheld Hantek’s. I purchased the cheapest one (2C42) and quite like it. (Display is very small) I find presets pretty much useless so the extra money for the “automotive” model is questionable in my mind. Admittedly the sig gen option might prove handy.
@@harryohanson Here’s a quick look at the 2C42 if your interested. Cheers
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@@TheGibby3340 I would like PC based scope for sure. Gives me a bigger screen to work with. I work on motorcycles and have few that even techs at the manufacture support cannot help. So I was hoping to find help in scopes.
Unfortunately like always the shop I work for I have no help coming regards to cost of the the tools or information. That’s why I am considering buying Hantek being it more cost effective. Unfortunately I also have hard time with electronics so trying to figure out what and where. Saying that I greatly appreciate your help!!! Thank you so much!!
I think you overestimate the level of "Yeah I'll buy the best" attitude in the automotive industry.
I might. I am not in it...Thx for watching. Cheers
@@TheGibby3340 The comment you replied too had a typo, I meant overestimate haha. Yeah That Hantek (in my circles at least, automotive performance and mobile diag) is the standard for those that refuse to spend $12,000 on a Snap-On Modis. Very interesting politics in automotive.
How much is a pico?
A few years back the 2204a was about $140 Canadian. I suspect it may be slightly more now. Thx for watching. 👍
will the hantek 1008c work on a dell windows 7 ?
Yes I run it on 7 👍
@@TheGibby3340 mine isa 32 bit doesnt matter ? will be my first time buying a scope hantek is fairly cheap beginer tool
@@JayDee-ve6ml No idea to be honest. Hantek website spells out system requirements 👍
@@TheGibby3340 im buying a pre owned one not sure if its a good idea or just buy new
ah the oul pico software is hard to beat
dave sterl Aye Dave ...Stiff competition for the Hantek. Cheers Pal
Hantek is not good . It does not have a drift display mode.
Picoteck is well done
your hantek 1008c looks way more expensive than mine does
and the software is way different
Software version 1.0.30
I believe it’s still widely available for free download. I also have earlier versions but prefer the later. Cheers 👍
You said v pecker
It's worth owning just for the jokes!
Don’t assume my gender 😜😂😂
🤣 It’s not an assumption, I have the RUclips statistics to back it up 🤣 Thx for watching 🍻