STEVE'S INFINITE RECOVERY UNCOVERED! | Steve Labbing Tricks

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  • Опубликовано: 8 ноя 2024

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  • @Nubbz3
    @Nubbz3  4 года назад +286

    Hey guys! Considering this video is kinda blowing up I’d like to leave a lil message:
    To any new people on the channel, I’m currently moving homes which is why my upload schedule sucks right now. Once I’m all moved more Steve videos are coming!!

    • @potattoggled
      @potattoggled 4 года назад +1

      I'm new and I don't know why I haven't found this channel yet. Subbed

    • @Niceguyhidden
      @Niceguyhidden 4 года назад

      You've got lots of humor potential. You should make more jokes. You've also got a nice voice, just like Dream. Make it work.

    • @aiweeable
      @aiweeable 4 года назад

      Go watch M2K’s recovery tech, your up b can actually increase by 2-3 units up if you do it right

    • @amazingfireboy1848
      @amazingfireboy1848 4 года назад

      When I saw the title I was expecting an actual infinite recovery, like Snake. Still a good video tho 👍

    • @blip7882
      @blip7882 4 года назад

      for anvil to back air try using:
      dair > sword bair > pickaxe bair
      sword bair > pickaxe bair is already true and sword bair is frame 4 so if it has enough range it should work report back if it works! (Please)

  • @captainaverage3625
    @captainaverage3625 4 года назад +930

    This is actually a really cool recovery trick, but it works for a different reason than you think. The TNT doesn’t let Steve use minecart again. Steve can keep using minecart in the air as long as he has enough iron and if no other minecart is still spawned. What TNT actually does is cause Steve to sort of do a small hop. When you’re that close to the bottom blast zone, that hop gives Steve just enough time for his previous minecart to despawn so he can do another one.

    • @tenta8206
      @tenta8206 4 года назад +33

      Thank you it wasn’t working for me but I understand it now you are a god

    • @nathanlevesque7812
      @nathanlevesque7812 4 года назад +11

      smort

    • @Iamyourboo2
      @Iamyourboo2 4 года назад +12

      Yep, you can actually do this without using any tnt too. The tnt may make it easier though.

    • @captainaverage3625
      @captainaverage3625 4 года назад +16

      @@Iamyourboo2 I do think the TNT is required just because of the little hop and slowing your fall a bit, at least for what he was doing in the video. I tried to do it without TNT and either it’s required or just really tight and I’m just bad at timing

    • @Iamyourboo2
      @Iamyourboo2 4 года назад +7

      @@captainaverage3625 I was able to go underneath stages and get to the other ledge with just the minecarts but it wasn't easy. I bet the tnt would make it easier, but I havent tested that yet

  • @aerosyndrome3978
    @aerosyndrome3978 4 года назад +1094

    Snake: Ah finally, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be campy af.

  • @cumulu.s
    @cumulu.s 4 года назад +466

    We did it boys. Brawl Meta Knight is back.

  • @edgarsintitulo4468
    @edgarsintitulo4468 4 года назад +256

    Snake: Finally, a worthy opponent

    • @NVS_Snake
      @NVS_Snake 4 года назад +6

      But Snake has to take 20% damage or more. So Steves is theoretically better 😳

    • @whatamidoing6833
      @whatamidoing6833 4 года назад

      @@NVS_Snake true, cuz if snake made it, he still die anyway cuz forward smash

    • @EEBE64
      @EEBE64 4 года назад

      Banjo also has an infinite recovery, but it's insanely hard to pull off.

  • @Kixly_
    @Kixly_ 4 года назад +141

    2:10
    "you do this ba-ba vu pa-pa hu a-a i'am here *evil laugh*"

    • @ninjapotatolorf6237
      @ninjapotatolorf6237 4 года назад +4

      Tomura Shigaraki mocking All Might
      2020 Colorized

    • @anonymouspikminguy
      @anonymouspikminguy 4 года назад +1

      thats not an evil laugh thats a WHEEEEEEZE

    • @brianmerion
      @brianmerion 4 года назад +1

      He's speaking the language of the gods

  • @pecan9
    @pecan9 4 года назад +384

    Everyone: I CaNt GeT uP chery's: -_-

    • @mewxtherealitygod4706
      @mewxtherealitygod4706 4 года назад +4

      cherry* fool... you had the power to live and you used it for power... while i use it for immortality...

    • @nathanlevesque7812
      @nathanlevesque7812 4 года назад

      @@mewxtherealitygod4706 ._.

    • @Endershock1678
      @Endershock1678 4 года назад

      Everyone: Steve sucks, can't even recover from the bottom blast zone with him.
      Cheryz: So anyways, Steve can basically recover infinitely.
      Seriously though, his recovery takes ten seconds to learn and another minute or two to learn how to glide. People actually suck at this game.

    • @Pablo_Martin_aa
      @Pablo_Martin_aa 4 года назад

      @@Endershock1678 y3

  • @crabby9961
    @crabby9961 4 года назад +46

    If you use elytra and barely miss ledge you can cancel elytra and maybe make it since it boosts you up very slightly

  • @pigeondoodles
    @pigeondoodles 4 года назад +48

    the reason the tnt gives you another minecart is because it stalls enough so that the previous minecart despawns, and since you can only have one out at a time, you can use another one only when that happens

    • @Nubbz3
      @Nubbz3  4 года назад +11

      yup, without the tnt you would fall to low though so I think it is still required :D

    • @lordnul1708
      @lordnul1708 4 года назад +1

      haven't tested yet, but you could probably get away with substituting in an air dodge if 1, you don't need that much height and 2, your timing happens to be goon enough.

  • @afeathereddinosaur
    @afeathereddinosaur 4 года назад +65

    Gimr discovered that anvil with dirt block can annihilate shields, Steve is looking prett good, ngl

  • @roscoes-wetsuit1
    @roscoes-wetsuit1 4 года назад +35

    Steve can actually glide under the stage with only the Elytra

  • @pastapocha5708
    @pastapocha5708 4 года назад +107

    Steve: places a block in the air
    Minecraft: We don't do that there

  • @yanyangames2845
    @yanyangames2845 4 года назад +170

    tnt uses like 1 dirt, maybe 2
    mew2king: you're gonna need 13 dirt or tier 1 materials to place a tnt

    • @nathanlevesque7812
      @nathanlevesque7812 4 года назад

      ._.

    • @kermitsudoku6446
      @kermitsudoku6446 4 года назад +10

      i looked up the guide and it said it uses a lot of materials and it uses cheap ones first. it also consumes less rare materials if it gets to that point

    • @fupalover
      @fupalover 4 года назад

      M2k likes to exaggerate.

    • @PinHeadSupliciumwtf
      @PinHeadSupliciumwtf 4 года назад +4

      @@fupalover no he checked it's 13 at the first use of tnt then the next 2 ones are "free" so 13 for 3

  • @TheZeroCDXH2002
    @TheZeroCDXH2002 4 года назад +66

    *Me, someone who don't have a Switch*
    Interesting...

    • @adgeifc
      @adgeifc 4 года назад +1

      No no he got a point

    • @remnantzeelurker
      @remnantzeelurker 4 года назад +2

      Gotta do something to learn the meta of the game. Can't fight but we can take notes

    • @adgeifc
      @adgeifc 4 года назад

      Bruh realy i am a minecraft pro so this is ez pizi

    • @thezombiewacker4120
      @thezombiewacker4120 4 года назад

      If you have a pc just go search yuzu
      The rest is on you

    • @pureclover6855
      @pureclover6855 4 года назад

      Same xD

  • @Bowhunter1987
    @Bowhunter1987 4 года назад +17

    Replace the footstool with a block place and then anvil straight after when the opponent is shielding and if they don’t get out of it. Big shield damage to instant shield break. People already found out shield breaks and kills that the opponent can not recover. Steve mains are a bother thing jigglypuff mains haft to watch out for.

  • @TimTeemo
    @TimTeemo 4 года назад +89

    Nubbz: *is a god*
    Me: I don’t even know what the jump button is

    • @mimas21
      @mimas21 4 года назад +3

      I want to see your "ugly" face again

    • @Nameless_Cat_IsAGoodGame
      @Nameless_Cat_IsAGoodGame 4 года назад +1

      Yoo its tim

    • @amazingfireboy1848
      @amazingfireboy1848 4 года назад

      @Juanez Fernandez Pinedez Mendozez no, it's y. It's also up on the left stick.

    • @Zant582
      @Zant582 4 года назад

      @@amazingfireboy1848 left stick?

    • @quiet-ndl3956
      @quiet-ndl3956 4 года назад

      @@amazingfireboy1848 potentially, he isn't wrong, maybe his control scheme has it set to A. Or he was just trolling and you got wooshed.

  • @ZyferscrollLP
    @ZyferscrollLP 4 года назад +150

    He is broken but his recovery sucks.... now he is just broken xD

    • @omarpikm2101
      @omarpikm2101 4 года назад +6

      how to make steve have a good recovery
      - place blocks
      - place blocks
      - place more blocks
      - up special
      - ?????
      - die because you got spiked

    • @7olkan
      @7olkan 3 года назад +1

      I think he is mid tier

  • @user-rb6ce
    @user-rb6ce 4 года назад +23

    *IntroSpecktive watching the video*
    Okay, i'm taking serious note of this just another step to become the best steve E V E R

  • @deigapan6170
    @deigapan6170 4 года назад +12

    Brawl metal knight has a successor now

    • @raphialfehr8593
      @raphialfehr8593 4 года назад

      Finally, a worthy opponant, our battle will be legendary.

  • @yellowtitan6040
    @yellowtitan6040 4 года назад +1

    Can't begin to tell you how much I appreciate the Wii Play music in the background

  • @bloom9786
    @bloom9786 4 года назад

    You could use minecart multiple times without the tnt I think sense you used the tnt it gives a brief few seconds for the minecart to despawn to use it again
    Also I am at the beginning if he says something different thats why

  • @anakinskywalker846
    @anakinskywalker846 4 года назад

    Mew2King showed a way to make your elytra travel up to three blocks higher.

  • @SSJGUCCI
    @SSJGUCCI 4 года назад

    I subbed so you can be closer to your dream :)

  • @prljää
    @prljää 4 года назад

    STEEEEEVE

  • @lericcraft368
    @lericcraft368 4 года назад

    Tnt doesn't reset his side b you can only side b as long as his minecart doesn't exist and since the blast zone auto kills the minecart you can abuse that

  • @psinonyke
    @psinonyke 4 года назад

    It was only a matter of time

  • @cash8539
    @cash8539 4 года назад

    STEVE

  • @TheDarkKRoo
    @TheDarkKRoo 4 года назад

    The new metaknight.

  • @izdatbOi
    @izdatbOi 4 года назад

    2:08 You don't even need to do all that. Just side-🅱 and up-🅱 and you're good lmao

  • @sonoftheway3528
    @sonoftheway3528 4 года назад

    It's not a true infinite....like at all

  • @MCToons918
    @MCToons918 4 года назад

    I honestly have to say thank you. This definitely gives me a bit more flexibility now when I'm playing. He's definitely gonna be one of my many mains.

  • @volt7447
    @volt7447 4 года назад

    I meeeeeaaaan it’s stil hella edge guardable.

  • @MrSiringtonThe4th
    @MrSiringtonThe4th 4 года назад

    The tnt gives a second minecart because the minecart disappears

  • @TermoZayko
    @TermoZayko 4 года назад

    I glided from the left blast zone to the right blast zone

  • @double-b7328
    @double-b7328 4 года назад

    Bro watch m2k his video about Steve's recovery. He shows some tech thats even more advanced then this which is also worth to learn

  • @tryhardpenguin9636
    @tryhardpenguin9636 4 года назад

    I don’t really like Steve, his controls feel all weird, that’s why I’m an enderman main instead

  • @Liam-dt4nm
    @Liam-dt4nm 4 года назад

    I like the editing

  • @jekeliot3838
    @jekeliot3838 4 года назад

    yoooooooooooooo this is crazy. It basically gives steve a few more jumps if we wants it lmao

  • @affydaffy1142
    @affydaffy1142 4 года назад +1

    STEVE STEVE STEVE STEVE STEVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @laneburgess3007
    @laneburgess3007 4 года назад

    you can get all the way under omega stages with just up b

  • @charKT-7461
    @charKT-7461 4 года назад +1

    Mr. Game & Watch still has the best recovery in the game. It's so hard to edgeguard that you're gonna die trying more than succeeding.

    • @tryhardpenguin9636
      @tryhardpenguin9636 4 года назад

      Also really good out of shield

    • @charKT-7461
      @charKT-7461 4 года назад

      @@tryhardpenguin9636 Not just really good, _the_ best OoS option.

  • @KakinTseGamePlayer
    @KakinTseGamePlayer 4 года назад

    Idk if you already know this but Mew2King showed a very good way to recover without this because this uses resources where as the other trick is just the electra and can recover from quite far (basically from where you were recovering). Also, Steve can go to the other side of the ledge with only one dirt block placed under the ledge and then Up B'ing at a certain angle to get to the other side so using minecart and tnt is not necessary once again

  • @chickennugs8624
    @chickennugs8624 4 года назад

    STEVE

  • @floppa4968
    @floppa4968 4 года назад

    🧢

  • @Imaludbud
    @Imaludbud 4 года назад

    Steve ftw!
    By this i mean I came from the community tab

  • @Niceguyhidden
    @Niceguyhidden 4 года назад

    ...Four days later M2K makes an improved guide to Steve's recovery, making this one pretty much obsolete.

  • @williamhowes3010
    @williamhowes3010 4 года назад

    The first minute sums up what I've literally been saying since Steve came out. Bad recovery? He can basically stall indefinitely with the right conditions with his what, 7 ways to move in the air?
    Double Jump, Block, TnT/Anvil/Minecart all give a mini jump/stall, and a great up B that LITERALLY just needs to be pointed the right way to not see "A bird, a plane, a... Blastzone Steve."
    If I, a lowly Young Link pleb, can figure out that Steve has ridiculous recovery then how is the internet not screaming for nerfs to anvil yet

  • @sirmeowableslifeafter1804
    @sirmeowableslifeafter1804 4 года назад

    You can use an anvil to get another minecart

  • @ivey3393
    @ivey3393 4 года назад

    this video was really good!! I need more bro :)

  • @mrdhong2143
    @mrdhong2143 4 года назад

    If you mash A at the height of your glide you go higher

  • @tearsofchrist.871
    @tearsofchrist.871 4 года назад

    STEVEEEEEEE

  • @hektr19
    @hektr19 4 года назад

    I feel like those extra jumps will get patched

  • @FFXfever
    @FFXfever 4 года назад

    Steve is still stuck at ledge with 2 less iron. His fair sucks so he can't use that to get back on stage, giving him only like, 4 options. He's gonna be option selected to a 50/50 guess at ledge, after spending the 2 iron. Sometimes I wonder if it's better for him to just die lol.
    Nice find though.

    • @LeafMaltieze
      @LeafMaltieze 4 года назад

      If you mine your own Anvil, or TNT block, it is considered an iron terrain type. So if you just want iron, you can get it really easily, and consistently.

    • @FFXfever
      @FFXfever 4 года назад

      @@LeafMaltieze you mean the move with high start up animation and the one that can explode in your face thanks to projectile? Yeah, good luck. Steve have plenty of sauce, but resource management for him has a high skill ceiling.

    • @LeafMaltieze
      @LeafMaltieze 4 года назад

      @@FFXfever I'm not arguing that his resource management won't be his biggest defining trait, and probably the hardest thing to master about him... But like, just place a dirt block in front of the TNT. The projectile won't detonate it unless it's Zelda/Palu and you put the TNT so close it's touching it. You should be making block walls anyway, just to stall so you can mine. Now you just place a single extra block before mining, when you specifically need iron.

    • @FFXfever
      @FFXfever 4 года назад

      @@LeafMaltieze that takes more time to do. Anvil will be faster.

  • @StateOfGav
    @StateOfGav 4 года назад

    STEVE

  • @Weird_One_
    @Weird_One_ 4 года назад

    R. O. B. and Snake’s recovery is also really good snake’s being infinite and R. O. B. having an extremely long one

  • @vside1067
    @vside1067 4 года назад

    It's really sad to think this might get patched

  • @maucazalv903
    @maucazalv903 4 года назад

    okay this can be very useful xd

  • @Gabriel-fn7ub
    @Gabriel-fn7ub 4 года назад

    I hope you do more smash videos

  • @kanchannathwani3364
    @kanchannathwani3364 4 года назад

    I USE ALEX🤣🤣

  • @courier1337
    @courier1337 4 года назад

    eyltra is eyltra, not the firework make me go up allower

  • @Shibester
    @Shibester 4 года назад

    STEVE

  • @Flamme-Sanabi
    @Flamme-Sanabi 4 года назад

    Congrats! You are the best Steve player! ... Someone else got the title now.

  • @Edman2000
    @Edman2000 4 года назад

    All I have to say about this is...
    Thank you so much for showing us that. I’ve been a huge supporter for Steve coming in smash so now that’s he’s in, it’s pretty much my goal to become the best Steve player in My local area. I’ve been grinding with Steve since day one and now that I know that his recovery is op besides his awesome glider I feel like I’m one step closer to becoming a top Steve player.

  • @syko3142
    @syko3142 4 года назад

    STEVE

  • @niklasrobin4241
    @niklasrobin4241 4 года назад

    Sorry dislike from me for the Clickbait

  • @zalifor
    @zalifor 4 года назад

    just gonna sub so i can see a year from now if youre the best steve

  • @shovel5831
    @shovel5831 4 года назад

    pretty epic ngl

  • @turnaround9238
    @turnaround9238 4 года назад

    Still gonna sd when I can't jump off the anvil

  • @samuelsmith3941
    @samuelsmith3941 4 года назад

    you can actually get from one ledge to the other on battlefield using only elytra

    • @samuelsmith3941
      @samuelsmith3941 4 года назад

      also works on fd, havent tried it on bigger stages like town

  • @justinhaley6926
    @justinhaley6926 4 года назад +1

    Why are the smallest youtubers the ones with the best content?

  • @4candoall
    @4candoall 4 года назад +4

    Thank you Nubbz this was very helpful. Also you can mine the anvil back, and you always get more resources then you used for throwing it.

  • @workabletuba
    @workabletuba 4 года назад +7

    I’d just like to say, the tnt has nothing to do with the second minecart. You get a second one because the minecart falls in the blast zone and despawns. Although the tnt does give you a small boost, so it still helps.(not trying to be rude or show hate, just thought I’d help)

  • @rycalamo2684
    @rycalamo2684 4 года назад +1

    Great vid! Wii/Mii music is always a win! Yeah it hurts every time I see someone sd w/ the elytra when it’s so easily available, keep up the great content!

  • @equinox-XVI
    @equinox-XVI 4 года назад

    I was doing some labbing with Steve and yes tnt resets the timer for the minecart which is really useful for deep edge guards. But in terms of going under the stage, Steve can do it even with tnt.
    Fall from ledge > minecart > jump out > minecart > jump out > double jump > elytra.
    The timing for when you get to spawn another minecart is a bit weird, but aside from that, its surprisingly easy.
    It seems the only thing that limits the rate you can use minecart is a very short timer and whether or not you have another minecraft already out.
    The timer is pretty short so it usually doesnt stop you unless your mashing side-b, but whether or not theres a minecart out can actually be abused a little. If you use a minecart and it goes into the bottom blast zone, I'm pretty sure it unloads it and you can use it again really quickly. Could be useful for normal recovery too if you want to go low.

  • @poloneverbrokeagain
    @poloneverbrokeagain 4 года назад +4

    BROOOOO! Everyone is gonna watch this and your gonna become famous!!!! OP strats

  • @Hikaru_SR-Omega
    @Hikaru_SR-Omega 4 года назад

    Dude, I wasn't prepared for that nostalgic punch in the face with your outro.
    *Like, seriously, that hit me hard.*
    Also, yay, interesting Steve tech.

  • @kingsimmons7342
    @kingsimmons7342 4 года назад +1

    Bruh an actual good RUclipsr with good edits and great commentary

  • @sleepier9433
    @sleepier9433 4 года назад +1

    Steve's glide makes him ultimate's Metaknightmare, Brawl Metaknight

  • @kirklandthoman1169
    @kirklandthoman1169 4 года назад

    This is the first vid of yours I've seen, but I love your energy! Subscribed

  • @calvinkonen224
    @calvinkonen224 4 года назад +1

    Dude your second channel is so good why does it only have 7k and I wanted to give you this 👑

  • @godthesavage5572
    @godthesavage5572 4 года назад +1

    Dude I am honestly such a big fan of both of your channels. Thank you for uploading.💞

  • @swagger5362
    @swagger5362 4 года назад +1

    steve mains "Most Valuable Gaming" video on steve's recovery shows you how its even better.

  • @OneAndOnlyTrueJix
    @OneAndOnlyTrueJix 3 года назад +1

    I came here from your brawl stars channel.
    And I do not regret subscribing, Smash is a game a play for 11 years maybe.
    When it comes to brawl stars I only play it at the toilet lmao.

  • @blinkofan3ye
    @blinkofan3ye 4 года назад +1

    I'm glad I found you, I'm here to support your channel all the way through ^^' with that content you will hopefully get your deserved subscribers😌
    greetings from Germany, keep it up mate :)

  • @KadenzJade6447
    @KadenzJade6447 4 года назад

    Steve can actually still gain the same amount or even more vertical height if you rocket sidewards then aim up
    This can be useful to just go under the stage (it only needs up b so it's resource free) tho it is understandable if you can't get it all the time but it is possible, and more likely if you add the Elytra midair cancel to grab the ledge

  • @bionicallyacomputer292
    @bionicallyacomputer292 4 года назад +5

    0:17 yea Steve up b dumb good, you gotta learn the angles

  • @rylanroper1808
    @rylanroper1808 4 года назад

    There’s also an instant shield break that Steve can do. If someone is holding shield, jump over them and place a dirt block in their shield. Then, instantly down air on the block. The falling hit box of the anvil hits, then the landing hits, the dirt block breaks, making another falling hit box hit, and another landing hit box.

  • @Jonah488
    @Jonah488 3 года назад +2

    Me: watches nubbz3 me finding this channel that sounds like nubbz3 *looks at channel* wait

  • @alexhasko6230
    @alexhasko6230 4 года назад

    Thank you for finally being someone who actually knows how to recover eith glide! I've cringed so many times at so many videos where people died when they could've easily survived if they just held down before holding up again!

  • @stitch603
    @stitch603 4 года назад

    I have no clue how I ended up here I barely watch smash videos, but I watched through the entire thing and enjoyed it. Here's a subscribe.

  • @lonnieislogical9617
    @lonnieislogical9617 4 года назад +6

    Down air = DESTRUCTION

  • @bionicallyacomputer292
    @bionicallyacomputer292 4 года назад +1

    0:35 yessir thanks for showcasing this

  • @Maskka
    @Maskka 4 года назад +1

    I use tnt a lot for recovery and I never knew that it gave you another minecart
    You learn somthing new everyday

  • @damnson6872
    @damnson6872 4 года назад

    hey another really good mixup on his recovery is hold down when you use the elytra, you get so much speed that I’ve gone under battlefield before from top left corner. It’s tricky to go under but you can get really close to the blast zone and still make it back with how much momentum was built up. my personal opinion it’s better than using a minecart off the side constantly

  • @xcountryrunner6743
    @xcountryrunner6743 3 года назад +1

    Steve is my favorite character in smash

  • @lonewaffle6602
    @lonewaffle6602 4 года назад +7

    Nubbz4
    Charles will get mad
    STEVE

  • @wyldecg5304
    @wyldecg5304 4 года назад +13

    I was going to be the best Steve, fight me, fight me right now!!!!
    Also, love your vids and Steve!!!!

  • @Colorondo8
    @Colorondo8 4 года назад +1

    You actually get your minecart back whenever it goes off the screen, not when you place a TNT. Plus the TNT loses its jump after 1 time. His recovery is still very good though.

  • @samirkhosrowshahi7928
    @samirkhosrowshahi7928 4 года назад

    You can actually make it to the other side using 1 iron via 2 methods.
    1: build blocks as close as you can to the underbelly of the stage, then minecart in such a way that you end up just under the stage. Jump out, double jump, then use up B and spam A.
    2. Forget the blocks, just drop down and use the minecart, jumó out on the other side, double jump, up B spam A.

  • @StarAiden
    @StarAiden 4 года назад

    Few things you didn't mention. If steve had the eylta and attacks or shields it will drop off causing him to shift his hitbox higher so he can grab ledge easier. Also this helps if you up b the wrong way. If you are on a block and it disappears, steve will stop what ever he's doing. This is extremely helpful with down tilt and smash attacks. Down tilt has a lot of end lag so its helpful to use the move and do anything you want. Up smash is extremely long so cutting off abit of the time is so useful and you can do a drag down with a smash attack... Also no body talks about the up smash hitbox. The "scooping" hitbox goes so low