Good well balanced report. Earlier this year I acquired a Husqvarna 9.3x62 built on an M96 action . It’s a Deluxe M640 with the jeweled bolt, nicely checkered stock and 24“ barrel with open sights. It previously had a side mounted scope at some time. The holes are still there. The gentleman I got of from was British but grew up hunting in Africa where his father was a game ranger. Now he lives in the U.S. , arranges African Safaris and still hunts there frequently. He said the 9.3x62 i got from him was one of his extras but he had taken three Cape Buffalo with it in recent years. His opinion on cartridges are very similar to Kevin Robertson who he refers to as Doctari. In my discussions with him he was very emphatic (in his opinion) that the 7x57 Mauser was superior to the 270 Winchester for African plains game because of its ability to handle the 175 bullets. I was at first skeptical , especially because of the anemic U.S. factory loads for the more common 140 grain bullets until I looked at the load data in the current Nosler manual. The sectional density for the 175 grain Nosler bullets is 0.310. With modern powders the 175 grain can be propelled to almost 2600 fps in the 7x57. When I ran the numbers for the Long Range Accubond (BC 0,648) and the Partition (BC 0.519) through a ballistic calculator I was amazed. At 2574 fps when sighted dead on at 250 yards the average trajectory for both of those bullets was only 4 inches above the line of sight at its apex at 150 yards before falling to 4.6 inches low at 300 yards with a remaining velocity over 2100 fps and remaining kinetic energy of 1778 ft lbs. That gives a maximum effective point blank range for whitetails or mule deer to about 280 yards and elk sized critters out to 300 yards or maybe a little more. Plenty of velocity, energy and penetration without meat damage that you’d get at close range with a 7 mag or hot 130 grain 270 Winchester or other over bore barrel burners. As to my 9.3x62 I got it “just cause” and I wanted to compare it to my 35 Whelen. The maximum SAAMI piezo transducer pressure for the 35 Whelen is 62,000psi and 57,500 for the 9.3x62. When loaded to maximum pressures the Whelen should be able to propel equal weight bullets faster than the 9.3x62. Woodleigh makes bullets up to 310 grain for the Whelen. I don’t know about Swift A Frame bullets for the Whelen. In 225-250 grain weighs there is no practical difference between the 35 Whelen and the 9.3x62 Mauser. Unfortunately for Whelen fans the Whelen’s 0.358 bullet diameter only converts to 9.09mm so it won’t meat legal requirements even in those countries with the 9.2mm minimum. Also you can’t just walk in any store outside the US and find it on the shelves. Unfortunately for me I’m not going to be able to do any hunting with the 9.3x62 or any other rifle any time soon because of a hip replacement I had about a month ago. When I am able to go I have reloading components but I plan to start with the relatively inexpensive 285 grain Privi Partisan load. They’re thin jacketed and are said to expand well on thin skinned whitetails which is mostly what I have on my farm. The plain old Remington CoreLokt should be good too. I see no need for heavily constructed premium bullets on thin skinned game. In the mean time I’ll just have to live vicariously through your and my other favorite Utubers ( Desert Dog Outdoors, GunBlue490, and USOG) and all the viewers stories. Happy hunting boys and girls!😊
I love Swedish Mausers and have had one rebarreled to 9.3X62. I love it. The uninformed "experts" will pull the lack of a third lug (which IS NOT A LOCKING LUG...only a just in case lug) out of their butts. The factory chambered these actions in everything except the belted magnums. The ramp is such that only spitzer pointed bullets feed, I will have to modify that and get the blunt 286 grain bullets to feed also.
I use the 285 privi bullets in one of my 9.3x62. It is softer and works wonderful on whitetails. Loaded to modern specs around 60,000 psi with ramshot big game powder I get 2510 fps.
I have been using the 9.3 x 62 since the early 1970's when I lived in Africa. I find it a superb performer and much better than the 375. A very versatile cartridge.
@@anonymousf454I would say it's better for certain reasons, namely it works in standard length actions, not magnum, so you get a lighter shorter rifle with one extra in the mag, recoil is more modest so most shoot it better, costs less to build and shoot. Works well in shorter barrels and finally at dangerous game ranges the effect on game is no different. The 375 is certainly superior ballistics wise, would be a better option in open terrain on large antelope as its flatter shooting.
Thank you for an excellent cartridge review. I live in France and hunt driven roe deer, red deer and boar. I have shot around 100 head of game with the 9,3 through a Zastava and latterly a rather beautiful customized Husqvarna from the early 1950s with a Docter red dot sight. I use Hornady interlocks and the 9,3 has proved completely effective, even when shot placement has been imperfect - I can honestly say I haven't lost a single animal.
I live in Sweden and I absolutely love my Husqvarna 16040 Monte Carlo rifle that is a Swedish rifle built on a M98 action chambered in 9,3x62 that I use on Moose, red deer and wild boars.👍🏻
One of my personal favorite cartridges. As a young teen our gun club had a home movie made in the 30s if I recall correctly. A lady hunter armed with a Mauser bolt gun in 9.3x62 was after an African Elephant (bull) and brained him with a solid down he went. She and the guide approached and she gave him 2 insurance shots. I was impressed but had never heard of this cartridge in the mid 1960s. Years later I had a custom Mauser Banner M98 custom built ( after using 2 different guns so chambered and still have the custom gun to this day). I have taken a good bit of game with this and other of my rifles in this caliber and it remains one of my personal favorites. Its a certain killer. I will never be without one and that custom Banner Mauser remains one of my favorite firearms and cartridges. Multiple friends who have seem my 9.3x62 used in the field also purchased or built up one for themselves. One purchased a Mauser 98 I had prior to my Banner custom mentioned previously. Have a chance to acquire one I doubt you WOULD EVER regret the decision. .
I built my first 9.2x62mm on a GEW Mauser action 15 years ago and I still own it. I have taken elk and deer both with it in my home state of Wyoming and countless hogs here in Texas along with axis deer and Aoudad. They have remarkable stopping power. I own 2 375 H&H rifles… but would rather pack one of my 9.3x62’s for most hunting.
I considered all the 9.3 options, finally built a 9.3 x 64 on a K98 commercial action. Hard hitting with substantial recoil, it is sub MOA with Speer 270 gr, and slightly more with 286 Nosler. 57, 62, or 64, you will not be disappointed. Great channel.
Very interesting video, have been hunting with 9.3x62 since the end of the 80s. Have shot 40+ red deer and 20+ roe deer... All but two or three of the animals were where they stood... those that ran were the result of a very bad hit, but they fell after a maximum of 70 meters.... Most of the animals have been shot at ranges between 50 and 100 meters, otherwise the distance has been within 50 meters... So far I have used 18.5 gram lapua mega mostly . Very happy with this cartridge.💪💪💪
Waiting for this video from you!! 9,3x62 is the most popular round actually here in Europe for driven hunt( wild boar). DR. Kevin Robertson said all about of 9,3x62... Congratulations, for your videos. My respects from Portugal .
There is also the 9,3 x 64 Brenneke. It also fits the 98 Mauser action. It gets nearer to the 375 H&H, with a 293 gr bullet making 2,580 ft/s and 4,318 ft⋅lbf.
And the newer 9.3x66...almost equal to the Brenneke ~ 100fps slower than the Brenneke, but still in a Mauser '98 action with unmodified bolt face ... Square between the 9.3x62 & 9.3x64 Brenneke. All 3 are nice. And powerful.
Oh man this is one of my favorite cartriges...great video! I would love to see a breakdown of the 35 whelen, 350 Rem mag, and 358 Norma vs 338-06, 338 win mag.
I went hunting in the Czech Republic in the 90s with a Ruger No. 1 with Mannlicher stock and 20" barrel and caliber 7x57mm. I shot a roe buck there at 180 m. 7x57 is a good hunting cartridge. I also had a pre-war Mauser in 7x57 (1937) and an FN Mauser in 9.3x62 caliber. Sako are good weapons too. Back then, I had a Sako 375 H&H converted to the 404 Jeffery caliber by a Nuremberg gunsmith. I am a German from Franconia and now live in Thailand.
I've only been using the 9.3 fot 3 years and shot several deer between 40kg to nearly 250kg and with a heavy bonded projectile terminal performance vs meat damage has been outstanding, whilst also having manageable recoil in an 8lb rifle. Also would love to get the RWS H-mantel here in Australia, I have been looking ever since I bought the rifle.
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog Yep! In a compact Sako 85 for close country (for now anyway , it's my first non "Mauser" and I still can't wash myself clean of the dirty feeling). For open country I reach for a 300wm.
I had a custom rifle built on a fn 98 Mauser it was superb It was sold when I left my x I dearly missed the rifle but could not manage the cost of another of that quality.years later I heard about the Husqvarna model 46 in 9.3x 57.wow A 96 Mauser with a supremely designed stock.the Swedish people used this rifle on moose .I bought this rifle for less than 400 and it is by far the best handling rifle I have ever touched.with modern powders you can match the original specs of the 9.3x62 That being said with modern powders the 62 is breathing down the 375s neck.the nosler accubond really will give you an additional 50 yds of range.with my husky and the accubond bullets I would feel well armed anywhere on earth
Own two 9.3x62 rifles myself. One a sauer 100xt which is amazingly accurate, and one is an 98 mauser setup with XS ghost rings sights. For the handloader loading to modern pressures of around 60,000 psi really wakes up this beast! Do you have to load it hot absolutely not the loads from 1905 killed the biggest game on the planet and still does. My personal loads are 286 gr bullet at 2510 fps with ramshot big game powder, and the other is a 250 gr accubond at 2630 fps. Wonderful cartridge If you get on the Africa hunting forums the 9.3x62 is still one of the most beloved Buffalo cartridges to this day. Some countries grandfathered the 9.3x62 in when they moved to the 375 minimal caliber for dangerous game, so it’s still legal in several countries over there.
Was my first rifle 30 years ago I bought it when I was 17 with my grand father who told me at the time "that's a very good caliber lot of stopping power" . I still own it it is a K98 action with a lothar walther barrel 24" produced in Suhl Germany 🇩🇪. At the time I was 130lbs 😂 but could handle the recoil of norma vulkan 232 grains 2700fps. Or the KS 247 grains or the lapua mega 285 grains. It never failed me, even on "hardened" wildbores. Fantastic caliber that gets an extra punch with a 24" I am even thinking about a custom with a 26". Thanks for bringing that caliber to light.
If you are fascinated by the 9,3x62 (which is a phantastic cartridge indeed), you should risk an eye on the 9,3x64. This outstanding cartridge really outperforms the .375 H&H.
The 9.3X64 is a dead cartridge on this side of the pond. The only case maker is RWS and it is NOT imported to the USA, and RWS will not sell direct. It cannot be formed from another case. Unobtainium ....so sad
Well balanced review. For us in South Africa it is the cartrigde to use in the bushveld. For more info check out the book written by van der schyff "9.3×62 mauser journal"
Rebarreled a Swedish Mauser with 9.3X62. Recoil is not an issue. I would need to play with the feeding ramp to get the heavy blunts to feed. The pointy Nosler 250 grain and the like feed fine. Should make a perfect gun for moose, elk, any bear, nilgai, and hogs. Range is somewhat increased with higher BC lighter bullets. This is a fun gun.
Good overview of this cartridge. I am mad at it for perhaps shading the .35 Whelen, but until recently, no one ever heard of it over here in the States. If I couldn't handle the .375 Ruger's recoil, this would be the next choice!
Really good cartridge but with high potential for suboptimal barrel length ammo combinations. Already a 20’ barrel in combination with copper projectiles is a combo with high risk of dropping below full expansion speeds
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog nope, just did a lot of loading and modeling for a few people lately where exactly the topic of copper projectiles in a shorter 9.3x62 came up.
Mon père était Lieutenant de chasse en Afrique dans les années’50 et il a été envoyé plusieurs fois en mission pour effectuer des tirs de “régulation sanitaire “ (peste bovine) sur des troupeaux de buffles. Il utilisait une carabine Mannlicher chambrée en 9.3*62 et une carabine double chambrée en .475 NE pour les animaux blessés. Il y a un problème que vous ne citez pas avec cette munition: il faut choisir des balles bien serties, sinon, avec le recul les balles mal serties finissent par se bloquer dans le magasin. Pour finir: je chasse en Europe, avec une 9.3*62 depuis longtemps aussi et sans aucun problème… Lapua Mega 285 gr. Carabine Sauer. Je vous félicite pour la précision de votre présentation concernant cette excellente cartouche . Salutations des Ardennes.
Another fantastic video/podcast!!! You’re extremely knowledgeable and your detailed reviews are great to listen to. I wonder if you would ever do a cartridge review of the 300 WSM and the 416 Remington Magnum? Keep up the great work!
Interestingly, the 9.3x62mm 'factory load' -286gr .366 bullet at 2350fps - is one of the heaviest handloads for 35 Whelen I have data for - Lyman cast #358009 bullet - my mold drops apx 290gr bullet with published Lyman data from 47th Ed. showing 2349fps max load with 48.5gr IMR3031 - and thats a heavy max load. I can say this, I havent gone that high but apx 2000fps at 43gr was definitely some recoil that gets your attention. I've always liked the idea of the 9.3x62mm but when you step back, the reality is it shines as an all around African game cartridge - exactly what it was designed for. Its overkill here in N America. The 35 Whelen was designed as the North American version of the 'African 9.3x62mm - an all around big game cartridge suitable for anything including the biggest most dangerous on the continent. Elmer Keith claimed this ans I think he took a record grizzly with a 35 W. I have a 35 Whelen and I look at it as my elk rifle or big bear rifle. You shoot 275-315gr cast bullets in the 35 Whelen and suddenly its a different thing. A scaled down heavy cast bullet 45-70 in a way. You realize this when you shoot at targets tacked to dead trees and you keep shooting the trees down after about 15-30 minutes of target shooting lol
The 9.3x62 is not a "Big Game Cartridge" that is overkill for North America. You can take some big game with it, but so you can with a 7x57. We shoot Roe Deer in Europe with the 9.3x62 and there is not any more damage than with a .308, 7x57, 8x57, .30-06. It all comes down to shot placement and bullet selection.
Have you tried these Lyman data? Unless you have a very hard cast mix, they won't give you any accuracy. Anything over 1500 fps with my casts out of wheel weights will just scatter all over the place. Even when powder coated and with gas checks, they will jump the lands at higher speed. Linotype mix over 22 Brinell hardness might work better. I tried these Lyman data in my .416, 375, .30 and .284 always with the same results, they have to be slow to group well!
I shoot the 9.3x64. 268 grains at 2600 to 2700 feet per second and with a longer barrel like 28 inches and hand loads I'm sure I can shove it to 2800feet per second which puts it into the same ballpark of the 375 h&h. I'm getting mine mounted in a chassis so I can plink animals at 300 to 400 yards. It's easily a 9lb rifle to start so with a chassis a good muzzle break or suppressor and a tripod it should shoot extremely soft.
We use Norma Oryx bonded in 232 gr (15g) for moose in Tikka 9.3 x 62. Plenty of power and with a suppressor recoil is nonexistent. Also, noise is much reduced for our hunting dogs.
I live in michigan, and i bought a 9.3 just simply to have something different than everyone else at deer camp. It works just as well as everyones deer rifle, and honestly has less meat damage because the bullet isn’t going all that fast. Also….its suppose to have more recoil than a 30-06 or a 270, but it just plain doesn’t feel like it. It’s different.
I think 9.3x62 would be perfect for exotics like Nilgai. Also, I'm thinking said cartridge would be great for bear defense in Alaska and good for bison too. The recoil is close to what a 7mm Rem mag is. That's hard to beat. I'm considering having one built.
Almost identical to 35 Whelen. Will soon have my old 1917 US Enfield rebarreled for 35 Whelen. 👍Besides other bullets Swift makes 225-250-280 Grns for it. Was seriusly thinking about the 358 Norma Mag. But about 100 Fps faster to much trouble making amo from 338 WM👎
When you get that Whelen try the Hornady 200 grain SuperFormance load. 2910 fps equals 358 Norma Magnum with the same bullet weight. On both ends of the rifle!😂
I just found a BRNO ZG-47 for sale. Been looking for one for a while. It looks "good". Only problem is, it's in a laminate stock. Tough and functional. But fugly. Oh so very fugly. There's a chance I can get a walnut stock (non original) for it so I may go for it if that's possible.
It seems Begara have this caliber available in their latest affordable hunting rifle offerings. The only thing that intrigues me a bit is the fact that they have decided to go for 1:14 twist rate. It sounds counter intuitive as we are often told that longer projectiles need faster twist rate!! Any thoughts on this?
RWS company makes lead free cartridge with, surprisingly for this caliber, low weight bullet of only 183 grains flying at 2950 f/s !!?? It is a fragmentation bullet with front part disintegrating upon impact, something similar to Hornady SST except no lead. It is made of tin. I am wondering what it does on medium game so if anybody has any experience with it would be great to share.
I have used the RWS Evo Green in a 9,3x62 for many years and have stricken more than 100 game with it - Wild Boar, Moose, Red Stag, Fallow Deer and Roe Deer. In short it is excellent - a real knock out round. Works like the old Nosler Partition, but is much more accurate (half MOA). If you hit the shoulder bone on Roe deer size game you might get a tennis ball size exit hole and on a Roe Deer Lamb it might take the far side front leg with it, but I have also seen that with old fashioned lead bullets. 90% of all game go straight down, some take a few steps. I have had a Red Stag that went about 100 meter and a 300 lbs Wild Boar that went 50 meter, but also a 400 lbs Wild Boar that went straight down.
The Germans are more pragmatic than the Americans who think bigger = better. I've come to the conclusion that you should always choose the lightest calibre that will get the job done cleanly and reliably.
@davidhomen6204. .375 is plenty of gun for lion. Many lion have been taken with .30 caliber rifles going back to the .303 about a century ago. .30-06,.300 Win Mag, 7mm, several others are enough gun for lion.
Why do you think that? Germany had colonies in German Southwest Africa (modern day Namibia), German East Africa (modern day Tanzania), Kamerun (modern day Cameroon), and Togoland (modern day Togo) in the late 1800s and early 1900s.
You probably mean 9,3 x 64 Brenneke as a replacement for the .375 H&H. I use the 9,3 x 62 for wild-boar here in Europe. Would never use it in Africa. 416 Rigby is the “medicine” for that continent. But 9,3 x 62 on Cape Buffalo?! Only if you are suicidal …
Du irrst dich völlig. Selbstverständlich reicht die 9,3x62 absolut für Büffel, WENN man die richtigen (harten) Geschosse verwendet. Also keine billigen Teilmantelgeschosse, sondern entweder hochwertige, gebondete Geschosse oder noch besser bleifreie Geschosse wie das Barnes TSX oder das RWS HIT.
Hi everyone In the year 2003, September, my 9.3 x 62 killed a cape buffalo and elephant with one shot each. The rifle was loaned to two other hunters who had not received their rifles at Victoria Falls airport. They also killed their buffalo with one shot each plus a lot of wart hogs. I didn't see the need for a .375 H&H. Glenn
Get on the African hunting forums because it is one of the most beloved Buffalo cartridges you will see on there. There are a lot of African professional hunters on there, who hold the cartridge in high esteem.
Well, I believe that Paulerhard did not get the support he was looking for. Unfortunately, he's not going to get it from me either ! I used the 9.3x62 in a Blaser R93. My perfect travel rifle (but that's another story). I've killed more game with the 9.3x62 than I will admit to (least someone claims that I am bragging). ** If I need more power than Mr. Bock's creation, I change the barrel to the .416 Remington
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Good well balanced report. Earlier this year I acquired a Husqvarna 9.3x62 built on an M96 action . It’s a Deluxe M640 with the jeweled bolt, nicely checkered stock and 24“ barrel with open sights. It previously had a side mounted scope at some time. The holes are still there. The gentleman I got of from was British but grew up hunting in Africa where his father was a game ranger. Now he lives in the U.S. , arranges African Safaris and still hunts there frequently. He said the 9.3x62 i got from him was one of his extras but he had taken three Cape Buffalo with it in recent years. His opinion on cartridges are very similar to Kevin Robertson who he refers to as Doctari. In my discussions with him he was very emphatic (in his opinion) that the 7x57 Mauser was superior to the 270 Winchester for African plains game because of its ability to handle the 175 bullets. I was at first skeptical , especially because of the anemic U.S. factory loads for the more common 140 grain bullets until I looked at the load data in the current Nosler manual. The sectional density for the 175 grain Nosler bullets is 0.310. With modern powders the 175 grain can be propelled to almost 2600 fps in the 7x57. When I ran the numbers for the Long Range Accubond (BC 0,648) and the Partition (BC 0.519) through a ballistic calculator I was amazed. At 2574 fps when sighted dead on at 250 yards the average trajectory for both of those bullets was only 4 inches above the line of sight at its apex at 150 yards before falling to 4.6 inches low at 300 yards with a remaining velocity over 2100 fps and remaining kinetic energy of 1778 ft lbs. That gives a maximum effective point blank range for whitetails or mule deer to about 280 yards and elk sized critters out to 300 yards or maybe a little more. Plenty of velocity, energy and penetration without meat damage that you’d get at close range with a 7 mag or hot 130 grain 270 Winchester or other over bore barrel burners.
As to my 9.3x62 I got it “just cause” and I wanted to compare it to my 35 Whelen. The maximum SAAMI piezo transducer pressure for the 35 Whelen is 62,000psi and 57,500 for the 9.3x62. When loaded to maximum pressures the Whelen should be able to propel equal weight bullets faster than the 9.3x62. Woodleigh makes bullets up to 310 grain for the Whelen. I don’t know about Swift A Frame bullets for the Whelen. In 225-250 grain weighs there is no practical difference between the 35 Whelen and the 9.3x62 Mauser. Unfortunately for Whelen fans the Whelen’s 0.358 bullet diameter only converts to 9.09mm so it won’t meat legal requirements even in those countries with the 9.2mm minimum. Also you can’t just walk in any store outside the US and find it on the shelves.
Unfortunately for me I’m not going to be able to do any hunting with the 9.3x62 or any other rifle any time soon because of a hip replacement I had about a month ago. When I am able to go I have reloading components but I plan to start with the relatively inexpensive 285 grain Privi Partisan load. They’re thin jacketed and are said to expand well on thin skinned whitetails which is mostly what I have on my farm. The plain old Remington CoreLokt should be good too. I see no need for heavily constructed premium bullets on thin skinned game. In the mean time I’ll just have to live vicariously through your and my other favorite Utubers ( Desert Dog Outdoors, GunBlue490, and USOG) and all the viewers stories. Happy hunting boys and girls!😊
I love Swedish Mausers and have had one rebarreled to 9.3X62. I love it. The uninformed "experts" will pull the lack of a third lug (which IS NOT A LOCKING LUG...only a just in case lug) out of their butts. The factory chambered these actions in everything except the belted magnums. The ramp is such that only spitzer pointed bullets feed, I will have to modify that and get the blunt 286 grain bullets to feed also.
I use the 285 privi bullets in one of my 9.3x62. It is softer and works wonderful on whitetails. Loaded to modern specs around 60,000 psi with ramshot big game powder I get 2510 fps.
Bit late, hope you're doing well. Check out Hawk bullets. May be just what you're looking for.
I have been using the 9.3 x 62 since the early 1970's when I lived in Africa. I find it a superb performer and much better than the 375. A very versatile cartridge.
A man after my own heart!
Why do you like it MUCH better than the ole 375?
@@anonymousf454prob cuz in Africa you couldn’t find a lot of 375?
@@glenbrockwell9362 I'd figure that's where 375 is most popular
@@anonymousf454I would say it's better for certain reasons, namely it works in standard length actions, not magnum, so you get a lighter shorter rifle with one extra in the mag, recoil is more modest so most shoot it better, costs less to build and shoot. Works well in shorter barrels and finally at dangerous game ranges the effect on game is no different. The 375 is certainly superior ballistics wise, would be a better option in open terrain on large antelope as its flatter shooting.
YES! Thank you for this video about the 9.3X62.
I have two rifles in that caliber. A Sako Classic and a Ruger No.1. Among my favorites!
Perfect!
Thank you for an excellent cartridge review.
I live in France and hunt driven roe deer, red deer and boar.
I have shot around 100 head of game with the 9,3 through a Zastava and latterly a rather beautiful customized Husqvarna from the early 1950s with a Docter red dot sight.
I use Hornady interlocks and the 9,3 has proved completely effective, even when shot placement has been imperfect - I can honestly say I haven't lost a single animal.
I live in Sweden and I absolutely love my Husqvarna 16040 Monte Carlo rifle that is a Swedish rifle built on a M98 action chambered in 9,3x62 that I use on Moose, red deer and wild boars.👍🏻
1640 is not a 98. It is huskys own construktion.
I'm from the states and am just curious. I thought most hunters in Sweden and Finland used smaller calibers such as 6mm or 220 Russian variants?
One of my personal favorite cartridges. As a young teen our gun club had a home movie made in the 30s if I recall correctly. A lady hunter armed with a Mauser bolt gun in 9.3x62 was after an African Elephant (bull) and brained him with a solid down he went. She and the guide approached and she gave him 2 insurance shots. I was impressed but had never heard of this cartridge in the mid 1960s. Years later I had a custom Mauser Banner M98 custom built ( after using 2 different guns so chambered and still have the custom gun to this day). I have taken a good bit of game with this and other of my rifles in this caliber and it remains one of my personal favorites. Its a certain killer. I will never be without one and that custom Banner Mauser remains one of my favorite firearms and cartridges. Multiple friends who have seem my 9.3x62 used in the field also purchased or built up one for themselves. One purchased a Mauser 98 I had prior to my Banner custom mentioned previously. Have a chance to acquire one I doubt you WOULD EVER regret the decision.
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I built my first 9.2x62mm on a GEW Mauser action 15 years ago and I still own it. I have taken elk and deer both with it in my home state of Wyoming and countless hogs here in Texas along with axis deer and Aoudad. They have remarkable stopping power. I own 2 375 H&H rifles… but would rather pack one of my 9.3x62’s for most hunting.
I considered all the 9.3 options, finally built a 9.3 x 64 on a K98 commercial action. Hard hitting with substantial recoil, it is sub MOA with Speer 270 gr, and slightly more with 286 Nosler. 57, 62, or 64, you will not be disappointed. Great channel.
Very interesting video, have been hunting with 9.3x62 since the end of the 80s. Have shot 40+ red deer and 20+ roe deer... All but two or three of the animals were where they stood... those that ran were the result of a very bad hit, but they fell after a maximum of 70 meters.... Most of the animals have been shot at ranges between 50 and 100 meters, otherwise the distance has been within 50 meters... So far I have used 18.5 gram lapua mega mostly . Very happy with this cartridge.💪💪💪
Awesome! That sounds like a perfect demonstration of the capabilities of the cartridge.
Waiting for this video from you!!
9,3x62 is the most popular round actually here in Europe for driven hunt( wild boar).
DR. Kevin Robertson said all about of 9,3x62...
Congratulations, for your videos.
My respects from Portugal .
Thanks!
There is also the 9,3 x 64 Brenneke. It also fits the 98 Mauser action. It gets nearer to the 375 H&H, with a 293 gr bullet making 2,580 ft/s and 4,318 ft⋅lbf.
And the newer 9.3x66...almost equal to the Brenneke ~ 100fps slower than the Brenneke, but still in a Mauser '98 action with unmodified bolt face ... Square between the 9.3x62 & 9.3x64 Brenneke. All 3 are nice. And powerful.
Certainly but the problem is it’s ammos availability and poor choice of factory loads.
Oh man this is one of my favorite cartriges...great video!
I would love to see a breakdown of the 35 whelen, 350 Rem mag, and 358 Norma vs 338-06, 338 win mag.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for the suggestion!
Picked up a Ruger African new a couple of years ago. Lipsey's had one in stock. Wonderful rifle and of course the 9.3x62 is great.
Awesome! Have you hunted with it yet?
Man a single thumb up isn't enough for so many info in 37 minutes!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I went hunting in the Czech Republic in the 90s with a Ruger No. 1 with Mannlicher stock and 20" barrel and caliber 7x57mm. I shot a roe buck there at 180 m. 7x57 is a good hunting cartridge. I also had a pre-war Mauser in 7x57 (1937) and an FN Mauser in 9.3x62 caliber. Sako are good weapons too. Back then, I had a Sako 375 H&H converted to the 404 Jeffery caliber by a Nuremberg gunsmith. I am a German from Franconia and now live in Thailand.
I've only been using the 9.3 fot 3 years and shot several deer between 40kg to nearly 250kg and with a heavy bonded projectile terminal performance vs meat damage has been outstanding, whilst also having manageable recoil in an 8lb rifle.
Also would love to get the RWS H-mantel here in Australia, I have been looking ever since I bought the rifle.
Are you one of those guys in Australia who has used the 9.3 on sambar deer?
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Yep! In a compact Sako 85 for close country (for now anyway , it's my first non "Mauser" and I still can't wash myself clean of the dirty feeling).
For open country I reach for a 300wm.
Also love your podcast mate, avid listener for quite some time, keep up the good work 👍
Wonderful! Thank you very much! And best of luck to you down under!
You have the Woodleigh s ,some of the very best for 9,3s. The 232 or 250 is quite similar to them.
I had a custom rifle built on a fn 98 Mauser it was superb
It was sold when I left my x
I dearly missed the rifle but could not manage the cost of another of that quality.years later I heard about the Husqvarna model 46 in 9.3x 57.wow
A 96 Mauser with a supremely designed stock.the Swedish people used this rifle on moose .I bought this rifle for less than 400 and it is by far the best handling rifle I have ever touched.with modern powders you can match the original specs of the 9.3x62
That being said with modern powders the 62 is breathing down the 375s neck.the nosler accubond really will give you an additional 50 yds of range.with my husky and the accubond bullets I would feel well armed anywhere on earth
I have only shot elk with the 9.3s so my opinion on these rifles is not very extensive.excellent elk medicine if you hunt at reasonable ranges
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Own two 9.3x62 rifles myself. One a sauer 100xt which is amazingly accurate, and one is an 98 mauser setup with XS ghost rings sights. For the handloader loading to modern pressures of around 60,000 psi really wakes up this beast! Do you have to load it hot absolutely not the loads from 1905 killed the biggest game on the planet and still does. My personal loads are 286 gr bullet at 2510 fps with ramshot big game powder, and the other is a 250 gr accubond at 2630 fps. Wonderful cartridge
If you get on the Africa hunting forums the 9.3x62 is still one of the most beloved Buffalo cartridges to this day. Some countries grandfathered the 9.3x62 in when they moved to the 375 minimal caliber for dangerous game, so it’s still legal in several countries over there.
Was my first rifle 30 years ago I bought it when I was 17 with my grand father who told me at the time "that's a very good caliber lot of stopping power" . I still own it it is a K98 action with a lothar walther barrel 24" produced in Suhl Germany 🇩🇪. At the time I was 130lbs 😂 but could handle the recoil of norma vulkan 232 grains 2700fps. Or the KS 247 grains or the lapua mega 285 grains.
It never failed me, even on "hardened" wildbores.
Fantastic caliber that gets an extra punch with a 24" I am even thinking about a custom with a 26".
Thanks for bringing that caliber to light.
If you are fascinated by the 9,3x62 (which is a phantastic cartridge indeed), you should risk an eye on the 9,3x64. This outstanding cartridge really outperforms the .375 H&H.
The 9.3X64 is a dead cartridge on this side of the pond. The only case maker is RWS and it is NOT imported to the USA, and RWS will not sell direct. It cannot be formed from another case. Unobtainium ....so sad
Il y a aussi le 9.3x66 Sako
The 9,3x62 Journal is a good book to have about the fine cartridge . Look it up and read the sample articles to begin with if one wish too .
Well balanced review. For us in South Africa it is the cartrigde to use in the bushveld.
For more info check out the book written by van der schyff
"9.3×62 mauser journal"
Rebarreled a Swedish Mauser with 9.3X62. Recoil is not an issue. I would need to play with the feeding ramp to get the heavy blunts to feed. The pointy Nosler 250 grain and the like feed fine. Should make a perfect gun for moose, elk, any bear, nilgai, and hogs. Range is somewhat increased with higher BC lighter bullets. This is a fun gun.
Very fine explanation of the 9.3x62. Thinking strongly about buying one now. Thanks for a great video. ❤
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
The 9.3x62 definitely dont get alot of love here in tge usa like it should. Over all good hard hitting rig.
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Good overview of this cartridge. I am mad at it for perhaps shading the .35 Whelen, but until recently, no one ever heard of it over here in the States. If I couldn't handle the .375 Ruger's recoil, this would be the next choice!
Thanks Daniel!
This is an awesome channel for this esoteric rare bullet knowledge
Thanks!
Really good cartridge but with high potential for suboptimal barrel length ammo combinations. Already a 20’ barrel in combination with copper projectiles is a combo with high risk of dropping below full expansion speeds
Do you hunt with a Sako 85?
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog nope, just did a lot of loading and modeling for a few people lately where exactly the topic of copper projectiles in a shorter 9.3x62 came up.
Mon père était Lieutenant de chasse en Afrique dans les années’50 et il a été envoyé plusieurs fois en mission pour effectuer des tirs de “régulation sanitaire “ (peste bovine) sur des troupeaux de buffles. Il utilisait une carabine Mannlicher chambrée en 9.3*62 et une carabine double chambrée en .475 NE pour les animaux blessés.
Il y a un problème que vous ne citez pas avec cette munition: il faut choisir des balles bien serties, sinon, avec le recul les balles mal serties finissent par se bloquer dans le magasin.
Pour finir: je chasse en Europe, avec une 9.3*62 depuis longtemps aussi et sans aucun problème… Lapua Mega 285 gr. Carabine Sauer.
Je vous félicite pour la précision de votre présentation concernant cette excellente cartouche .
Salutations des Ardennes.
Another fantastic video/podcast!!! You’re extremely knowledgeable and your detailed reviews are great to listen to.
I wonder if you would ever do a cartridge review of the 300 WSM and the 416 Remington Magnum?
Keep up the great work!
Great suggestion!
@ shootsteel Outstanding video on the 9.3x 62. Thanks.😁
Interestingly, the 9.3x62mm 'factory load' -286gr .366 bullet at 2350fps - is one of the heaviest handloads for 35 Whelen I have data for - Lyman cast #358009 bullet - my mold drops apx 290gr bullet with published Lyman data from 47th Ed. showing 2349fps max load with 48.5gr IMR3031 - and thats a heavy max load. I can say this, I havent gone that high but apx 2000fps at 43gr was definitely some recoil that gets your attention. I've always liked the idea of the 9.3x62mm but when you step back, the reality is it shines as an all around African game cartridge - exactly what it was designed for. Its overkill here in N America. The 35 Whelen was designed as the North American version of the 'African 9.3x62mm - an all around big game cartridge suitable for anything including the biggest most dangerous on the continent. Elmer Keith claimed this ans I think he took a record grizzly with a 35 W. I have a 35 Whelen and I look at it as my elk rifle or big bear rifle. You shoot 275-315gr cast bullets in the 35 Whelen and suddenly its a different thing. A scaled down heavy cast bullet 45-70 in a way. You realize this when you shoot at targets tacked to dead trees and you keep shooting the trees down after about 15-30 minutes of target shooting lol
The 9.3x62 is not a "Big Game Cartridge" that is overkill for North America. You can take some big game with it, but so you can with a 7x57. We shoot Roe Deer in Europe with the 9.3x62 and there is not any more damage than with a .308, 7x57, 8x57, .30-06. It all comes down to shot placement and bullet selection.
Have you tried these Lyman data? Unless you have a very hard cast mix, they won't give you any accuracy. Anything over 1500 fps with my casts out of wheel weights will just scatter all over the place. Even when powder coated and with gas checks, they will jump the lands at higher speed. Linotype mix over 22 Brinell hardness might work better. I tried these Lyman data in my .416, 375, .30 and .284 always with the same results, they have to be slow to group well!
35 whelem with the 1:12 twist is every bit as effective for dangerous game using the 310 grain woodleigh
I shoot the 9.3x64. 268 grains at 2600 to 2700 feet per second and with a longer barrel like 28 inches and hand loads I'm sure I can shove it to 2800feet per second which puts it into the same ballpark of the 375 h&h. I'm getting mine mounted in a chassis so I can plink animals at 300 to 400 yards. It's easily a 9lb rifle to start so with a chassis a good muzzle break or suppressor and a tripod it should shoot extremely soft.
Great video, just picked up a Ruger M77 in 30-06 to convert to 9.3x62
Good choice! I know two guys really well who did exactly that with great results! 😎
We use Norma Oryx bonded in 232 gr (15g) for moose in Tikka 9.3 x 62. Plenty of power and with a suppressor recoil is nonexistent. Also, noise is much reduced for our hunting dogs.
I live in michigan, and i bought a 9.3 just simply to have something different than everyone else at deer camp. It works just as well as everyones deer rifle, and honestly has less meat damage because the bullet isn’t going all that fast. Also….its suppose to have more recoil than a 30-06 or a 270, but it just plain doesn’t feel like it. It’s different.
Check out RWS Evo Green 9.3x62 load. 184gr all metal bullet going 2950 fps. There are some for sale in the US too
I think 9.3x62 would be perfect for exotics like Nilgai. Also, I'm thinking said cartridge would be great for bear defense in Alaska and good for bison too. The recoil is close to what a 7mm Rem mag is. That's hard to beat. I'm considering having one built.
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Can you make a video on the 9.3×66/370 sako mag?
Seems like the performance from 20" and less barrels are equal to 9.3×62
250gr cast & Barnes TSX boolits cut 3-rd cloverleafs out of my 20" factory Savage rifle. Feral hogs & bears definitely do not like it but I love it.
Almost identical to 35 Whelen. Will soon have my old 1917 US Enfield rebarreled for 35 Whelen. 👍Besides other bullets Swift makes 225-250-280 Grns for it. Was seriusly thinking about the 358 Norma Mag. But about 100 Fps faster to much trouble making amo from 338 WM👎
Awesome!
When you get that Whelen try the Hornady 200 grain SuperFormance load. 2910 fps equals 358 Norma Magnum with the same bullet weight. On both ends of the rifle!😂
I just found a BRNO ZG-47 for sale. Been looking for one for a while.
It looks "good". Only problem is, it's in a laminate stock. Tough and functional. But fugly. Oh so very fugly.
There's a chance I can get a walnut stock (non original) for it so I may go for it if that's possible.
Excellent barrel lenght for the cartridge. It looks like it's 22".
22" barrels are very common with 9.3x62 rifles. My specific rifle has a 23" barrel.
It seems Begara have this caliber available in their latest affordable hunting rifle offerings. The only thing that intrigues me a bit is the fact that they have decided to go for 1:14 twist rate. It sounds counter intuitive as we are often told that longer projectiles need faster twist rate!! Any thoughts on this?
RWS company makes lead free cartridge with, surprisingly for this caliber, low weight bullet of only 183 grains flying at 2950 f/s !!?? It is a fragmentation bullet with front part disintegrating upon impact, something similar to Hornady SST except no lead. It is made of tin. I am wondering what it does on medium game so if anybody has any experience with it would be great to share.
I have used the RWS Evo Green in a 9,3x62 for many years and have stricken more than 100 game with it - Wild Boar, Moose, Red Stag, Fallow Deer and Roe Deer. In short it is excellent - a real knock out round. Works like the old Nosler Partition, but is much more accurate (half MOA). If you hit the shoulder bone on Roe deer size game you might get a tennis ball size exit hole and on a Roe Deer Lamb it might take the far side front leg with it, but I have also seen that with old fashioned lead bullets. 90% of all game go straight down, some take a few steps. I have had a Red Stag that went about 100 meter and a 300 lbs Wild Boar that went 50 meter, but also a 400 lbs Wild Boar that went straight down.
Il y a aussi le 9.3x66 sako
Just like the classic 7x57. Not too much gun to get the job done. Smooth feeding in a Mauser action, and moderate recoil.
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The Germans are more pragmatic than the Americans who think bigger = better.
I've come to the conclusion that you should always choose the lightest calibre that will get the job done cleanly and reliably.
Why did they quit making the sako blackbear handy rifle 21in bbl ?
Would you recommend 9.3x62 or 375 h&h for lion?
Either will work great
Do you know a company that makes bullet molds for the 9.3x62 ?
@davidhomen6204. .375 is plenty of gun for lion. Many lion have been taken with .30 caliber rifles going back to the .303 about a century ago. .30-06,.300 Win Mag, 7mm, several others are enough gun for lion.
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Perhaps you have German hunter's confused with Dutch Boer's?
Why do you think that? Germany had colonies in German Southwest Africa (modern day Namibia), German East Africa (modern day Tanzania), Kamerun (modern day Cameroon), and Togoland (modern day Togo) in the late 1800s and early 1900s.
There were lots of German Hunters in present day Tanzania and Namibia. They were German colonies until WWI (The mainland part of Tanzania).
You probably mean 9,3 x 64 Brenneke as a replacement for the .375 H&H. I use the 9,3 x 62 for wild-boar here in Europe. Would never use it in Africa. 416 Rigby is the “medicine” for that continent.
But 9,3 x 62 on Cape Buffalo?! Only if you are suicidal …
Then I guess I (and the thousands of other people who have killed buffalo with the 9.3x62mm Mauser) must be suicidal...
Du irrst dich völlig. Selbstverständlich reicht die 9,3x62 absolut für Büffel, WENN man die richtigen (harten) Geschosse verwendet. Also keine billigen Teilmantelgeschosse, sondern entweder hochwertige, gebondete Geschosse oder noch besser bleifreie Geschosse wie das Barnes TSX oder das RWS HIT.
Hi everyone
In the year 2003, September, my 9.3 x 62 killed a cape buffalo and elephant with one shot each. The rifle was loaned to two other hunters who had not received their rifles at Victoria Falls airport. They also killed their buffalo with one shot each plus a lot of wart hogs. I didn't see the need for a .375 H&H. Glenn
Get on the African hunting forums because it is one of the most beloved Buffalo cartridges you will see on there. There are a lot of African professional hunters on there, who hold the cartridge in high esteem.
Well, I believe that Paulerhard did not get the support he was looking for.
Unfortunately, he's not going to get it from me either !
I used the 9.3x62 in a Blaser R93. My perfect travel rifle (but that's another story). I've killed more game with the 9.3x62 than I will admit to (least someone claims that I am bragging).
** If I need more power than Mr. Bock's creation, I change the barrel to the .416 Remington