The Mystery of the 9.3
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- Опубликовано: 25 фев 2021
- In this video, Eric goes over the history and use of the venerable 9.3 caliber and its use in many different cartridges for a wide range of purposes.
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Man I wish I had my dad and my grandpa in my life. I see all these dudes with stories , “my dads gun, or my grandpas gun” y’all lucky man.
I hope you have the opportunity to rectify that for the coming generations.
There are 2 types of people, lucky ones and unlucky ones.
I never got any hand me down guns, but plan to hand some down.
I feel the same way man my dad bailed when I was five and my grandpa's passed before I was born...I plan on handing all of my guns down to my son and step daughter and do better then my "dad" ever could have
My old mans a felon so I kind of get how you feel
Using a Woodleigh 286gr RNSN in my 9.3x62, I took a cape buff with a quatering on right frontal shoulder shot. The bullet was recovered by the left rear rib - that's about 44" of straight line penetration. The buff wobbled, put its head down, and slowly tottered 40yds before rolling over. Ypu can't fault that sort of performance!! 👍
As a member of the 9.3x74R GANG, I’m stoked to see this topic delved into finally.
Same im a 9.3x74r user ina ruger no.1. Favorite hunting rifle
I have a modern 9.3x64 Brennekke, in a rifle built like a fly rod. It really is the German equal of a .375 H&H. When loaded hot,..hold on to your dentures!!
Equal to the H&H but will fit a shorter action ;)
All Brenneke’s cartridges (7x64, 8x64S and 9,3x64) are great and well designed but unfortunately not very common even in Europe, and ammos choice is very limited,except the 7x64.
The 9,3x64 if loaded with today’s modern components/powders would be the best all purposes cartridge in my opinion.
Here in Russia we have the SVD-K, chambered in 9.3x64. It's a beast.
On the hunt, this complex is extremely rare, the cartridge is essentially in the same niche with the 375 H&H, which is clearly redundant for most hunts. As a sniper complex, it also causes a lot of complaints and there is almost no data on its combat use.
@@olegkrikunov5218 Я пробовал стрелять из этой винтовки на стрельбище. Очень интересно.
@@olegkrikunov5218 Я пробовал стрелять из этой винтовки на стрельбище. Очень интересно.
Is that 9.3x64 Brenneke?
@@spektr540hemi Yes, I believe so.
These are the kinds of videos I really like you making Eric.
All of his videos are good but these are my favorites also
me too
@@hobbz4921 you a cop?
@@joshuagibson2520 are you a narc?
@@hobbz4921 nah. Just an outlaw.
Hi, I own a 9.3x62 mm. I live in South Africa. I have hunted Wildebeeste, eland and buffalo with my rifle and it does a great job. Loaded with 286 gr Barnes bullets, it penetrates almost the body length of a wildebeeste. The diameter is 366, not 365.
I have my grandfather's German stalking gun in 9.3x74r. My friends in Europe and Scotland tell me this is still a very popular stag and boar cartage still to this day.
I bought two CZ 550 Fullstocks in 9.3x62 and 6.5x55. I have run these babies ragged. In my opinion, if you have these two you really don't need anything else. Although I have a ton of silly old caliber rifles, they are all fun.
I too own a CZ 550 FS in 6.5 x55. I was hoping to buy another one in a larger caliber but the full stock is no longer listed so I guess I will hit the gun shows By the way we have the same last name. My family is from southern Kentucky.
@@klesmer South Florida here, the family has been here forever, there is even a Parrish Florida (it's tiny)
But one thing is for sure, we have fine taste in guns...LOL
@@johnparrish9215 I live in Safety Harbor at the top of Tampa Bay. I guess we got around alot in the day. I am like 3rd cousin to the Parrish family who owned Parrish Volvo in Jacksonvile, [you may as well] and there are Parrish's in Georgia a well. CZ has become one of my favorite gun lines. In addition to their handguns I recently bought a CZ 527 carbine in 7.62x39. I am smallish in stature and this thing fit's me perfectly.
@@klesmer My cousin Ronnie has the same rifle, he loves it since he likes tree stands. It's good to see there are plenty of gun loving Parrish's still around.
@@klesmer CZ 550 9.3x62 full stock is awesome. Use it for moose. Also have the Ruger #1 in 9.3x74. Wish he would have delved into the fact both have identical ballistics. The other conundrum is which bullets expand at what velocities. Most expand at 1800fps minimum.
Great video! I use the 9,3-62 in a Tikka T3 with a Stalon silencer. 100 rounds on the range is no problem. A great gun and caliber, quite common here in Sweden.
And 9,3x64 Brenneke,one of the finest of them all, and the sadly semi forgotten 9,3x70 off the .404 case. Immortalized by DWM,Mauser, Reichsjaegermeister, and in recent years Reimer Johannsen the gunmaker and Harald Wolf the gun and ammo maker.
.375 Wby ballistics decades before to Wby ,and close to his ,378 Wby also.
It might be argued the 64 is the best. Maybe it is. However the 62 is more practical.
Friend of mine(in Texas) picked up a Sako 85 in 9.3X62, once he figured out how to load his own, the possibilities just opened up. This cartridge, loaded properly, will vaporize Javelinas.
Just picked one up myself. The Classic version.
@@G19Jeeper How do you like that Sako Classic 9.3X62? I'm thinking of picking one up.
@@jasonforester4572 truth be told, it’s so beautiful, I rarely take it out of the safe.
Seeing a peckery turn into pink mist must be quite entertaining
I built a 9.3 x 64 on a commercial 98, brown precision stock. Deer and moose hate it. I have good recipes for the 250 barnes, 270 speer and, 286 partition. While its not a plinker for the range, recoil is manageable. This caliber deserves some North American love. Thanks for the video.
“It’s just gonna punch a hole through smaller game”
* evaporates three chickens *
9.3x57 hits about like the 45/70...energy-wise. The others hit a lot harder.
Very common caliber here in Sweden for hunting moose and brown bear.
I absolutely love big bore videos. Whether its the technical analysis like this, or the fun soda jug destruction videos. I remember i was having a bad day then checked youtube and saw your 10ga destruction video and it absolutely made my day. Love your content!
Hey remember the mighty 9,3x74R, very popular in doble rifles and some combinations especially in Europe! Nice video, great work, thanks!
I have one in a Ruger No 1. The finest most accurate rifle I own. I have yet to recover a bullet. The 9.3's hit way above what the paper calculations suggest.
Perfect round for the notorious Sasquatch 😜
Awww, the Tippman paintball gun is trying to hangout with the real guns on the wall haha!
Great video, I love learning about stuff like this. Great breakdown and history of the cartridges and you made it so I could easily understand. Thank you
Love the love you're throwing at 9.3x62. I have good recipes for the Hornady 286, Speer 270, Nosler 286 and 250.
In my mind, 9.3x62 is the 30-06 of medium bores: it does everything really well, a Jack-of-all-trades.
Awesome channel, Eric. Keep on keepin on, amigo.
Definitely Jack-of-all-trades, as can be seen in the latest 9.3x62 Journal that was just published on Lulu
Awesome Awesome Awesome video Eric!! Keep these type of videos coming. Really great information coming from someone who knows what they are talking about. I hope you expand on this cartridge and others.
Hey Eric, if you want to drive the Purists INSANE Lothar Walther sells a 9.3x62 barrel for the M1 Garand for $409.
7 rounds of 9.3x62 fit perfectly in an N-Block clip.
What kind of work on the bolt, replace ? Interested to know.
@@gunfisher4661 the case head diameter should be either the same or close enough to the same to work. I'm butting an '06 case and an 8x57 case together right now thinking about it lol
@@gunfisher4661 The cartridge case head is so close in size between the 30-06 and 9.3x62 that the bolt might or might not need a little clearancing.
Eric that was an excellent video. The 9.3 is something that I definitely want to check out one of these days. Particularly the 9.3x57 to start with. Case forming is something I would like to try when I come across a cartridge where the cases aren't all that available. Very interesting stuff.
Love these videos. You're a wealth of information
I have used a Ruger 9.3x62 with the PPU 285gr load on a smaller doe in thick Wisconsin brush. The shot was 85 yds, double lung with good expansion and exit. The doe was thrown to the ground (drt). Good round.
Just read your comment today 09/13/22. You confirmed my thought on the 9.3x62 Privi Partisan load that I made in my long treatise just yesterday regarding the comparison of the 9.3x62 and the 35 Whelen.
@@davewinter2688 I have taken two whitetail with my T3 hunter. One with a factory hornady 285 spire points and the other a PPU 285 round nose. Both were at 40-60 yards, broadside lung shots and went 40 or so yards. Also have taken a 325lb black bear with the hornadys. He did not like it and didn't make it 10 yards, in through the ribs and out the opposite shoulder. Recovered the bullet ten yards behind, 2 inches into a spruce tree.
Held up very nice after that ride!
@@iammee1111 Sounds great. I have recently found an already nicely sporterized large ring 98 Mauser in 243 Winchester that the gunsmith who owns took in on trade. He says he cannot get it to shoot well. It key holes everything regardless of what kind of powder, bullet etc, so he's selling it to me for cheap and re-barrelling it to 9.3x62. I'll have less money in it than a Tika T3, Weathby Van Guard or the Sauer 1000 which is available in 9.3x62 but is a push feed action with some kind of synthetic stock. As of now (Feb..2023) I can get factory ammo and brass and bullets for reloading for less than 35 Whelen components. I'm 70 years old and have been reloading for over 50 years, but this will be my first 9.3xanything. Unfortunately health conditions are keeping me from doing much hunting these days so I probably won't get to do more with it than punch holes in paper or ring a wiley steel gong in the pasture on my farm. I also have a 9.3x57 on my want list. I hope your success with the 9.3x62 continues.
I'm jon from by god West Virginia I want to thank you for your service first off. Secondly y'all's channel is great. The love of guns ammo and shooting just oozes out of the way y'all talk and teach. Thank you guys for the great content. God bless you guys
Bless u too thank u 😅
Fantastic video on the 9.3x62 and all its variants. As always, thank you!
Congratulations on a great video.
You seem to have discovered why Elmer Kieth always advocated larger bore, moderate velocity calibers almost 90 years ago. At ethical hunting distances, they just plain work better when using standard jacketed lead bullets. Keep up the good work.
Nothing against Elmer Keith but he was reading lot German literature about that 9-3-62 and others that’s why he promoted big bore lower velocity that’s a fact I know other gun writers also read about other old or older cartridges we learn from each other I’m the same so I was German born but live in USA for 55 years I’m 65 now still hunt and learn new stuff about guns / cartridges bullet and every thing else in gun and hunting from young age I liked the 9,3x62 ever since my eyes got older and needed scoped rifles my Mauser 9,3x62 wasn’t the same to me I switched to Remington model 700 bdl in 30-06 mostly 165 grains bullet but still I thank Otto bock for his developments Otto u get a ⭐️from me RIP 😢
Glad to see the 9.3s getting some love. I love my 9.3x57s.
These guys make the best videos in a comprehensive manner covering facts data opinion real-life use shows them shooting using it and compares to other things and products best well-rounded videos and no stupid music
Interesting stuff, Eric! Might have to get into those calibers. Thanks!
Eric, great video, but you forgot a lot about the 9.3 familly:
-9,3x74r, the second most used 9,3 cause we use a lot of double rifles in Europe.
-9,3x64, made to compete with 375h&h in Africa when the 9,3x62 started to loose this battle.
-9,3x66 sako, another 375h&h equivalent
Been waiting for this video for a while 👏🏼👏🏼
keep up the great work!! thank you for the video!!
Thanks for the video, lots of good info. Waiting on Shilen to build my 9.3x62 barrel to go on one of my old Mauser actions for my next deer rifle
Ganyana really liked his 9,3 rifle, he used it on a lot of game of all kinds up to Elephamt,buffalo and lot other big and small ,and rehabillitazion of some unlucky terr also.
Love these types of videos
9,3x62 was one of the first rifles above 22lr i shot. I have one now that i hunt everything from roe deer to moose with with a 285gr bullet. Common caliber here in sweden
Loving these videos keep them up
I love my Mauser M12 in 9,3x62 and my Brno Double Rifle in 9,3x74r. The perfect round for stalking in the woods.
Did you get a copy of the 9.3 x 62 Journal on Lulu? Best publication on this caliber!
Not sure why but bullet history and different types of cartridges are my jam. Could listen and read about it for hours.
The 1st and 4th Wildboar in Modern Times here in Norway was taken with a 9,3x64 Brenneke in a M98 rifle,
You guys read my mind I was just thinking of the 9.3👍
Keep it up great videos very informing
Another awesome video
300 Win Mag is a nice versatile modern in that Hawkeye, works well (although recoil sucks through the narrow butt) and you can choose anything from 165 up to 220. Perhaps a history on that one? Love your productions sir, thanks for what you do.
9.3x62 gained a lot of popularity in europe over the last few years.
its THE cartridge for the foresthunter.
it fits perfect to normal huntingdistances of up to 300 meters, soft recoil, it fits in standardsystems, it works perfect out of short and long barrels, 9,3-barrels are nobrainers and are very unpicky in terms of bulletweights and bullettypes , it goes straight through brush like nothing, it ensures short searches of wounded animals, it pushes through game without tearing it into pieces, and it puts down the biggest game.
Awesome video keep making more on the big bores. It's a ignored topic in my opinion. Not to mention they are a ton of fun to shoot.
I'm going to be retiring my 444 marlin and going to the 35 Whelen for next year's primitive weapons season especially after I seen a couple 200 yard shots made by some of my hunting buddies definitely an awesome round. I never heard of the 9.3 until today.
Elmer Keith wrote about .35 W as a long range rifle with 275 grain bullet. Its in one of his rifle books. He Woodleigh make a PP series 225.250, 275 . Or 225 Swift or 225 Accubond to look at of US made bullets for it for other ranges.
I enjoy the iv8888 videos they're well-rounded you get to see the ammo the person speaking different camera angles live footage of shooting no music
It interest me Eric! I'd love to see a video on wildcat cartridges, their parent cartridge, the reasons for them, and the firearms that fired them! Like the 730 Waters for instance. I know it'll be a day long video so maybe a series of vids would work!
Great vid as usual!
Maybe you can do a little video on hand loading the x62 or x57 with 9 Makarov bullets as you mention in this video?
Thanks Eric… Appreciate your videos 👍👍👍
Built my first 9.3 last year as a 303/375, shoots a 260gr custom hollow point cast projectile at 2100fps in a Lee Enfield No4mk1 action, such a fun rifle.
Eric, the Finns (Finland) did make a 9.3 based on the 7.62x54R. It's the 9.3x53R. Google it!
Based on Ians conversation with Max I think the most likely reason is barrel making, as it was for the 7.62 rifle/pistol/sub machine gun combo, less tooling variation is needed
Excellent, thank you!
9,3x62 is a great cartridge, a friend of me uses it with great success on wild boar and red deer.
I prefer the 376 Steyr in my Prohunter. It is very accurate and I don't shoot past 250 meters usually.
Best videos out there, forgotten weapons is second, pleasee line bullets up , zoom in and point at each one and say what it is what size it is
Cool video, very informative
Very impressive presentation 👍
Really good video 👍
Great video.
Thanks.
Great video, thanks. My father just purchased a Husqvarna like yours.
I built a 9.3x64 Brenneke back in the early 90s, Douglas barrel, sako action, McMillan stock, what a power house every bit the cartridge of a 375HH!
It’s all true what you are saying. I never try for the fancy head or neck shots. I aim to break both frt. shoulders and smash everything in between. I always go with the heavier bullets that’s my preference. I really like my 9.3 x 62.
Very interesting a little above my head but still interested in finding out about this round cool thanks
I went hunting in the Czech Republic in the 90s with a Ruger No. 1 with Mannlicher stock and 20" barrel and caliber 7x57mm. I shot a roe buck there at 180 m. 7x57 is a good hunting cartridge. I also had a pre-war Mauser in 7x57 (1937) and an FN Mauser in 9.3x62 caliber. Sako are good weapons too. Back then, I had a Sako 375 H&H converted to the 404 Jeffery caliber by a Nuremberg gunsmith. I am a German from Franconia and now live in Thailand.
Similar idea with diminishing returns with a muzzle stuffer and barrel length. Food for thought Eric. In my testing, 35 inches of barrel is the sweet spot in 50 cal with ffg.
I love these videos
9.3x62 is really popular in Finland, it's a good allround caliber. Animals stops lot faster with 9.3x62 than 308win and 3006. Lighter copper and tin bullets also grow in popularity here. (Lapua Naturalis , Norma Evostrike, RWS Evolution green). I don't want lead in my meat. When shooting lead free, you just pretty much need to cut away the bullet holes. Also not much recoil if you shoot lighter bullets and have a silencer. 😀
Great video
I have always found the 9.3 x 62 to be a very interesting cartridge but have never gotten around to buying one. The closest I’ve come is a 350 Remington which works well on the large bears, moose, elk etc that we have up here in Canada.
Great video.
Another interesting member of the 9.3 family is the 9.3x72R, from the 1870's if i remember right. Beautiful looking cartridge with interesting ballistics
a perfect caliber for South Africa, great for large boned plains game, like blue wildebeest, kudu, and eland. Also great for warthog. I have taken all of the above with a CZ 550 in 9.3x 62 mm. Loaded with Somchem’s S335, You get about 2350ft/s out of a 24 inch barrel. Lighter bullets also work for a flatter shooting scenario. All in all a great caliber 👍🏻👍🏻
Check out the 9.3x64 aswell. Way more energy than the 9.3x62.
The x62 was designed for european game and then used in africa. The x64 was instead designed especially for african medium to heavy game.
To my knowledge Otto Bock got the order to produce a catridge for the german farmers in Africa in the beginning of the 20. Century. He created the 9,3x62 for Africa. After the great success in Africa it became popular in Germany and other european countries followed. Many professional hunters swear by the 9,3x62 (me included) and it is heavily used on driven hunts in Europe.
@@YTkenntkeinenDatenschutz that’s correct 👍
Really enjoy your videos I wish you would line up all the different calibers zoom in and then point it each one with your finger and say what it is so I can learn thank you
I just got a Husky in 9.3X57 and cant wait to make up some loads and play with it.. was going to try out the 270gr speer and also the 200gr RT Hawk bullets
I have had a few 9.3s since the '80's. Love 'em.
Not the same animal but I also have a fondness for 358Win, 338Fed and the 35 rem.
9,3 x 64 Brennecke is the real deal when it comes to traditional 9,3 caliber rounds 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
Learned some caliber history today
The shop I work at had a Ruger No. 1 chambered in .35 Whelen come through about a year ago. Beautiful rifle. I miss finger banging that one.
I'm building one right now, but might go Wheelen Brown, or Wheelen AI
I bought an m77 in 9.3x62 last year. Amazing rifle for every big game animal in the world!
I’ve been in the market for a 9.3x62 Mauser under 2k NIB synthetic stainless/Cerakoted. I check eurooptic daily.
Buy a Zastava (under 1000 USD), replace the stock and use Cerakoters, have them polish the bolt rails, feed ramp, and magazine. All in, maybe 1600. I love mine.
@@smokedbrisket3033 I bought a tikka t3x lite in 30-06 to either rebarrel or rebore. Thing shot great and I couldn’t bring my self to mess with it. Now I own 3 30-06s.
You forgot about the 9.3X64 Brennekee. Usually found in double rifles. Yields more energy than the 9.3X62
Sako has a cartridge 9,3x66 and there is the old 9,3x74r for combination rifles. it would be interesting if you did a video testing these to heavy hitters as well. thank you for interesting videos .
Eric, you didn't mention the 9.3x64 Brenneke? Slightly longer with a wider case than 9.3x62. It is nearly the equal of the .375 H&H. The 9.3x64 is to the .375 as the .35 Whelen is to 9.3x62.
I really liked this video. Very interesting. I have a Ruger No.1 in 9.3X62 that is one of my favorites. I'll never part with it.
There is 9.3x53R Finnish which is not even a wildcat but Sako still makes factory ammo for it ;) It has identical ballistics and reloading data as 9.3x57 if i remember correctly. I have a Winchester 1895 chambered in that Finnish caliber...
Just bought a heckler & Koch slb 2000 in 9,3x62 it's badass! Can't Wait to hunt with it.
Great stuff about this caliber in the 9.3 x 62 Journal that was just published on Lulu
Great videos viewers like to see a close-up and have all different calibers lined up in a row to see the size difference
9,3x72R is probably the oldest of them, coming out around 1880 as a black powder cartridge.
It was called the "ranger round" in Germany.
Was called Försterpatrone. A Förster is a Forrest official. But for current german hunting law, 9,3 x 72 R is today only allowed for Reh and Seehund ( roe and seal?). Is today a dated Oldtimer.
in europe all new bullets are married with 9,3*62. it have large selection of new bullets in europe
High level Tiggernometry! I like it
9x39 sounds nifty but it’s just a short 35 Remington. An AR10 in 35 Remington would be fun!
AR-15 in .350 Legend is just about equivalent to .35 Remington
I'm hoping for a Ruger marlin in 35 rem
13:48 I've never heard about 9x39 being developed for so damn long. As far as I recall, they originally wanted to used subsonic 7,62x39, that was already tried and used by specops.
However, there are other soviet 9 mm rounds, in particular 9x54R, a Mosin case necked up to accept heavy 9mm bullet. It was used in several hunting rifles, and, reportedly, it was the favourite hunting caliber of Leonid Brezhnev. And in the late 1980s soviet designers have took an interest in 9,2x64 Brenneke round, both as a hunting round and as a promising sniper ammo, probably an alternative of some sort to the .338 Lapua.
15:31 Idea was to give a gun to those who don't engage in direct combat and that would deliver enough punch on the realistic engagement distance for a handgun, as it was seen back then, not further, and that wouldn't overpenetrate like 7,62 Tokarev did. Later on soviets developed 5,45 AKS-74U when they had to develop a PDW, instead of giving green light to submachine guns chambered in 9x18. The 9x18 was too anemic for use in PDW on the proper distance, as they thought. At least that's how I recall it.
17:39 They use .22LR, just like everybody else. Why wouldn't they, it's an olympic sport.
I looked for a 35 whelen for years! Finally settled on a 35 rem.
338-06 is no slouch either. I have a 35 Rem pump.
@@TheClayCoKid i almost bought an old one that had the spiral mag tube and the case head mounted in the reciever. It went to some old boy in Tennessee.
35 Whelen turns out to be almost identical in ballistics with 9.3*62?
9.3X62 is very popular here in South Africa.
Beacause it is a phantastic round. Also very loved by Austrians and Germans for driven boar hunts.
Good morning y’all