Brenneke was a genius. His 7 x 64 (1917) is what I consider the European 270 Winchester (1925). It has a superior twist rate of 1:8.66” (1:220mm), and typical uses 120 to 180 grain bullets. Some European rifle makes use the same fast twist on their 270 Wins, and it completely transforms the cartridge.
South African here. The 9.3x62 is way more popular here than the 9.3x64. The low recoil and great performance makes it excellent for hunting in the bushveld and entry level for cape buffalo hunting. The guys that uses 375 h&h uses 270gr or 300gr bullets. The main problem with 375h&h, you have to select the right type of bullet and grain. Hard bullets on small/ medium game, you’ll have over penetration and that is fun to track in a bushveld, to soft and light, you’ll end up losing a lot of meat. 375 Ruger is really proving it self here
Love the 9.3x62mm and very interested in the 9.3x66 Sako. However, I may look deeper at the 9.3x64 Brenneke a bit deeper. Good luck and stay safe!!! 😉😉😉
I have a 9.3x64 in my model 70. It shoots 320 grain Woodleighs at 2435 with 64 grains on VVN 140. It shoots 1/2 inch groups. I took a Kudu sable wildebeest zebra and Cap Buffalo with it
I love the medium range thumper cartridges. 358 win, 35 Whelan, 9.3X62, even the grand old 35 Rem. The 338 win mag is my all time favorite. I looked into building a 9.3X64 Brenneke, many years ago. I couldn't source the brass or the ammunition. Maybe easier now. Everyone worries about long range performance now a days. These wonderful medium bore cartridges are sadly overlooked. Send a 260 grain accubond into the pump house, no doubt whether you hit it. Same for 338, and 35 calibers also. I thank you for reviewing this cartridge.
The 9.3x62mm absolutely rocks in my CZ 550 American. I also have a SAKO grey wolf in 300 win mag but have always thought a Grey Wolf in 9.3x66 would really hit the spot. Technical note: Nosler archived their Brenneke load data some years back, but I looked back into my 6th edition, and on page 538, there is a 9.3x64 Brenneke section.
What a lineup of beast cartridges. 416's are nuts. Our crew likes the 35 whelen. I feel the 225 grain stuff is the best we have used. Barnes tsx or ttsx. We haven't captured a bullet yet. Makes a mess also on big fatty bear. Our guide likes them also. Makes tracking easy if needed. We black bear hunt. Maine. Looking to expand our hunting locations soon. Whelen is nice because it is easy to make brass out of the 30-06. I talk about this because I think it is also an under appreciated cartridge. Love your content.
I love my 416 rem mag. Currently running 340 grain woodleigh pp at 2700 fps. Killed several whitetails with it for devastating results. Just sold my 416 Taylor improved, also had great results on deer with 300-350 grain bullets from 2550-2640 fps.
A great and very informative video! But something to keep in mind and a lot of mistakes that first time Americans make when traveling to Africa is taking rifles, chambered in obsolete or proprietary cartridges. It is very common when you arrive that your ammo will not. And I promise you are not going into few, if any gun shops in Africa that will carry ammunition for those types of cartridges. It might seem boring but take a 30-06 or 300 Winchester magnum for plains game. You won’t have problems finding ammo for either. And for dangerous game take a 375 H&H a 416 Remington magnum or a 458 Lott and forget about it. And whatever you do, do not take something that you cannot shoot extremely well. “Better a hit with a 375 that I miss with a 460.”!
RW, nice video on, not just one, but two nearly forgotten cartridges. The 9.3 Bren and the 35 Whelen. Also great nod to the 416 Wby. The difference between the 416 Wby and the 416 Rem is incredible. Just as a note, African hunting as we think of it today, did not really become popular in the early 20th century. It was incredible expensive to sport hunt at that time. But ivory hunting was on going and the European settlement and exploration of Africa was in full swing, so plenty of European settlers were shooting game for meat, crop destruction, feeding workers, commercial butcher markets and protection. The 9.3x64, 9.3x62 and 9.3x57 (rare, wildcat?) were popular with German settlers but faded with Germany's defeat in WW I.
9,3x57 was made by Mauser also as part of the x57 series . It kept going in Europe and is well known in Scandinavia and Germany . Blaser built a series of barrel for their 93 straightpull some years back. All sold to Sweden and Germany . Some lucked on it and got them to Norway. But they are impossible to find . Excellent boar and bear cartridge they are .
@@MrPh30thanks, that's interesting. I didn't know Blaser had barrels the old 9.3x57. Is it save to assume that the reloader are necking up 8x57 cases as ammo disappears? Just by case size I would think that it falls between the 358 Win and 35 Whelen. Kind of a shame that the 35 and 36 calibers just never really took off. At least here in the States they haven't.
According to my African cartridges book the 9.3x62 was the most popular cartridge in Africa until after WW2 when ammunition dried up for the German 9.3. That’s when the 375 H&H finally took the top spot of the medium bores (in the 40’s the 9.3 and 375 were considered medium bores.) the 9.3 is still very popular in Africa it just hasn’t been able to take back its spot from the 375.
The 9.3x57 "potato gun" and 9.3x62 pre-date (circa 1910) the Whelen, which was essentially a copy, and there are way more 9.3 cal bullet weight options, than the .358 cal. The 9.3x62 is just a necked up 30-06 like the Whelen but produces more energy than the Whelen. I believe this is because the 9.3 has a better shoulder angle than the Whelen. For bullets, I use 190 grain Norma, 250 grain Barnes, 270 grain Speer, 286 grain PPU, 300 grain Hornady, and 320 grain Norma. I'm sure the 9.3x64 is adaptable to use any of those sizes. Grafs & Sons used to sell basic 286 grain PPU soft points for a very good price, and while not fancy, they are a good, accurate bullet.
I own a CZ 550 in 9.3x62 for 18 years and reload for it so you are wrong on the 30-06 case is the same. The 9.3x62 Mauser is 007" larger case than the 30-06 and that is why fools who think using 30-06 brass to make 9.3x62 Mauser ammo get split cases and blow out of smoke in their face around the bolt. Yeah ! I was also stupid long ago to believe that nonsense to use 30-06 cases for the 9.3x62 until a Rem 06 case split and blew out blowing smoke and flame in my face around the bolt. When I am guiding clients for Brown bear and Yukon Moose hunts the 9.3x62 is always with me using 67 grains of H-414 with a Barns TSX 286 grain bullet and so far, this has been a 1 shot kills and stops a bear charge NOW! started guiding hunts in Alaska with a 338 win mag but the 9.3x62 Mauser with High end pressure reloads exceeds the killing effects of the 338 mag because of the larger bullet of the 9.3. The animals I have to take on aren't over 200 yards and most well under 100 yards. I will be starting the next hunts with a new rifle the AR 10 I've done in 375 -300 WSM a reloader cartridge that is a match of the 375 H&H magnum.
Absolutely spot on about 9.3x62 cases and 30/06 cases. I also fell for the using 30/06 cases for 9.3x62 cases and some worked but a lot didn’t lol. The 9.3x62 might just be my favorite cartridge to reload. I’m running 286 gr bullets at 2510 fps with ramshot big game. Factory 375 H&H loads run 2550 fps with 300 gr bullets. I wouldn’t carry my particular load to Africa just in case I would drop it down to 2400 fps to be safe, and well that loads been killing Buffalo for over a century now. The 375 can keep the extra velocity and I’ll take the extra sectional density of the 9.3 for Buffalo.
What’s crazy is how some of these German cartridges have modern designed cases that date back to the early 1900’s. I mean the 7x64, 8x68, 6.5x68 these pre dated the American 280 rem, 8mm rem mag, and 264 win mag by a long time. Some great cartridges across the pond over there in Europe they were making beltless magnums decades before Americans made their new beltless magnums.
Tip: Excel or Google spreadsheets, you can specify your own custom number format, so you just type the number rather than having to manually put text after a number. Example, you want to display 2650 fps, you go to number format, custom, put in #,##0"fps". When you type 2650 and enter it will display 2650fps. Use spaces and dots to suit. Same procedure with "ft.lbs" or anything you like. Beauty of this is they are actual numbers so you can still add up or do other calculations. Regards. 😊
Long time 9.3x62 user here, and love the cartridge. I’ve always wanted that 9.3x64 though. Wonderful designed cartridge unfortunately I can see having issues getting reloading brass for it, much less finding a rifle chambered in it. I’m a 9.3 fanboy, love 375 too but the 9.3 mm has superior sectional density compared to 375. I would like to build a 9.3-375 ruger. Come on Hornady you make all this other stuff make us some dangerous game cartridges. You can’t just stop and the 375 and 416 ruger! lol.
I agree that this is a beautiful cartridge. As much as I want one, though, I think the the 375H&H had a superior case design for dangerous game. And, you pulled up some impressive numbers, but I wouldn't consider it a very close match to the 375 for power which I think my 260gr accubond loads are 2700fps. No replacement for displacement as the saying goes. But, I think the 9.3x64 or even 9.3x62 are awesome for killers of all African game with less kick. During the ivory hunting days after the 1900s at least one famous hunter turned the bullets around and killed a lt of elephants with either the 6.5x55 or 7x57, which i would probably compare to a butcher with a 22. The 500 Jeffrey was probably created sooner, and probably the first rebated rim cartridge, and had a big influence on future cartridges. Sorry for getting off track, but great video.
🤠 What is Special About the Brenneke Cartridges is The They Are Right Around 0.5" in Width! That Allows You to Develop Wildcat Cartridges From Them - Getting Maxium Case Capacity, Without Giving Up Any Rounds in the Magazine! 🤔
I have one in a custom rifle built on a Pre- war Mauser action, it is an excellent round. 270 grain and up bullets really get the best out of this cartridge. The Russians actually use it for military 🪖 purposes in some capacity as well.
The first rebated Rim Cartridges i know are the Schuler Rounds 8x68s and 6.5x68 together with the 9.3x64 these are the OG German Magnum Cartridges, in 1954 we Germans had also a 28 Nosler the 7x66 SE vom Hofe (SE stands for Super Express) which has identical Performance then 28 Nosler but also fit in a Standard Length Mauser Action 😉 you Americans are allways late to the Party 😂😂😂👍 The other Brennecke Rounds are also not bad 7x64 is by far the most popular (in France till today cause they arent allowed to use Military or Ex Military Cartridges) Performancewise it sits between 280 Rem and AI
In Germany you can still find Ammo from RWS & Brennecke 5 different Offerings at the Moment, for Rifles Blaser are the only ones i actually know that chamber it nowadays
I bought a rifle that was a k98 rebarreled and I thought it was a 8x64s. Ended up being a 300 win mag. Long story short, I ended up with 100 rounds of 8x64s rounds. Now I need a use for that ammo. Thinking about trying to buy one and reloading it for 9.3x64. I already have a otto bock 9.3x62. Can I resized the 8x64?
The 1st and 3rd wild boar in modern history ca 2004 were taken with a custom mauser and 286 Swift aframe In 9,3x64 . Same rifle also went several African tours and lot of tours In Europe on driven game and more . Load used were 250 grains up to 320 Woodleigh . Newer bullets like the Rhino make it even better . Have a look at the Rhino bullet YT page videos . US importers for them again now .
I don't really think I have ever seen a rifle in that cartridge. I've heard it's good and that it has even seen some military use but I've never encountered factory rifles chambered in it or factory loadings. Almost everyone in Europe makes rifles in the slightly smaller but much more common 9.3x62 which is used a lot both in Africa and central Europe but the 9.3x64 Brenneke is somewhat forgotten.
It's too bad this cartridge isn't available in this country. It's got a good bit more pizazz than a 9.3x62, and less recoil than a 375 Ruger. It would make the perfect cartridge for a hunting rifle to be used for anything on this planet - not as powerful as a 416 Remington but certainly easier to handle. But the odd rim diameter ensures it will never be in the North American market, unfortunately.
🤠 I Would Like To Take The 7x64 and Improve (Acklyize) It! That Would Give You 79 grains of Water Case Capacity (or 3 More Grains of Powder Than The 280 AI, But Still Using The Same Standard Action) and SAMMI Spec It To 65,000 psi!
👍Thank You! It Appears That It's Maximum Operating Pressure is 63,800 psi (According to Someone Who Owns One), So It Doesn't Appear That It Will Have Any Ballistic Advantage Over the 280 AI! How Unfortunate! 😢 But, Still a Great Cartridge Design! 🤔 I Guess Their is Nothing New Under the Sun Again? 🌞 But, I Tried!😪
@MrPh30 It kind of depends. I would much rather take the whelen over this round. The whelen with 225 grains @ 2900 fps with 4200 ft-Ibs at muzzle will basically do everything an American hunter wants. With easily reloadable brass and standard mag capacity 4-5 that the o6 uses.
@@MrPh30 In reality, true. But for the majority of keyboard big game hunters their fav round will smoke em all. Still I chose the Whelen cuz I like 35's, its relatively cheap to load and will kill anything I will never hunt with it.
Brenneke was a genius. His 7 x 64 (1917) is what I consider the European 270 Winchester (1925). It has a superior twist rate of 1:8.66” (1:220mm), and typical uses 120 to 180 grain bullets. Some European rifle makes use the same fast twist on their 270 Wins, and it completely transforms the cartridge.
South African here. The 9.3x62 is way more popular here than the 9.3x64. The low recoil and great performance makes it excellent for hunting in the bushveld and entry level for cape buffalo hunting. The guys that uses 375 h&h uses 270gr or 300gr bullets. The main problem with 375h&h, you have to select the right type of bullet and grain. Hard bullets on small/ medium game, you’ll have over penetration and that is fun to track in a bushveld, to soft and light, you’ll end up losing a lot of meat. 375 Ruger is really proving it self here
Thanks for sharing
Both real close I assume. Both heavy hitters. Be cool to own x62 or x64. Really cool cartridges
Love the 9.3x62mm and very interested in the 9.3x66 Sako. However, I may look deeper at the 9.3x64 Brenneke a bit deeper. Good luck and stay safe!!! 😉😉😉
The 66 is almost identical to the 62. The 64 is a powerhouse
I have a 9.3x64 in my model 70. It shoots 320 grain Woodleighs at 2435 with 64 grains on VVN 140. It shoots 1/2 inch groups. I took a Kudu sable wildebeest zebra and Cap Buffalo with it
Thanks for sharing
I love the medium range thumper cartridges. 358 win, 35 Whelan, 9.3X62, even the grand old 35 Rem. The 338 win mag is my all time favorite. I looked into building a 9.3X64 Brenneke, many years ago. I couldn't source the brass or the ammunition. Maybe easier now. Everyone worries about long range performance now a days. These wonderful medium bore cartridges are sadly overlooked. Send a 260 grain accubond into the pump house, no doubt whether you hit it. Same for 338, and 35 calibers also. I thank you for reviewing this cartridge.
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Take a gander at the 7x64 Brenneke, excellent cartridge for anything other than dangerous game.
Exactly what I came to say!
The 9.3x62mm absolutely rocks in my CZ 550 American. I also have a SAKO grey wolf in 300 win mag but have always thought a Grey Wolf in 9.3x66 would really hit the spot. Technical note: Nosler archived their Brenneke load data some years back, but I looked back into my 6th edition, and on page 538, there is a 9.3x64 Brenneke section.
What a lineup of beast cartridges. 416's are nuts. Our crew likes the 35 whelen. I feel the 225 grain stuff is the best we have used. Barnes tsx or ttsx. We haven't captured a bullet yet. Makes a mess also on big fatty bear. Our guide likes them also. Makes tracking easy if needed. We black bear hunt. Maine. Looking to expand our hunting locations soon. Whelen is nice because it is easy to make brass out of the 30-06. I talk about this because I think it is also an under appreciated cartridge. Love your content.
Thanks for sharing
I love my 416 rem mag. Currently running 340 grain woodleigh pp at 2700 fps. Killed several whitetails with it for devastating results. Just sold my 416 Taylor improved, also had great results on deer with 300-350 grain bullets from 2550-2640 fps.
A great and very informative video! But something to keep in mind and a lot of mistakes that first time Americans make when traveling to Africa is taking rifles, chambered in obsolete or proprietary cartridges. It is very common when you arrive that your ammo will not. And I promise you are not going into few, if any gun shops in Africa that will carry ammunition for those types of cartridges. It might seem boring but take a 30-06 or 300 Winchester magnum for plains game. You won’t have problems finding ammo for either. And for dangerous game take a 375 H&H a 416 Remington magnum or a 458 Lott and forget about it. And whatever you do, do not take something that you cannot shoot extremely well.
“Better a hit with a 375 that I miss with a 460.”!
Thanks for commenting
RW, nice video on, not just one, but two nearly forgotten cartridges. The 9.3 Bren and the 35 Whelen. Also great nod to the 416 Wby. The difference between the 416 Wby and the 416 Rem is incredible.
Just as a note, African hunting as we think of it today, did not really become popular in the early 20th century. It was incredible expensive to sport hunt at that time. But ivory hunting was on going and the European settlement and exploration of Africa was in full swing, so plenty of European settlers were shooting game for meat, crop destruction, feeding workers, commercial butcher markets and protection. The 9.3x64, 9.3x62 and 9.3x57 (rare, wildcat?) were popular with German settlers but faded with Germany's defeat in WW I.
Thanks for the clarification
9,3x57 was made by Mauser also as part of the x57 series . It kept going in Europe and is well known in Scandinavia and Germany . Blaser built a series of barrel for their 93 straightpull some years back. All sold to Sweden and Germany . Some lucked on it and got them to Norway. But they are impossible to find . Excellent boar and bear cartridge they are .
@@MrPh30thanks, that's interesting. I didn't know Blaser had barrels the old 9.3x57. Is it save to assume that the reloader are necking up 8x57 cases as ammo disappears? Just by case size I would think that it falls between the 358 Win and 35 Whelen. Kind of a shame that the 35 and 36 calibers just never really took off. At least here in the States they haven't.
@@jk-kr8jt that one can do , reform 8mm ones . Norma have data on pages for it also , from 232 to 286 grain
According to my African cartridges book the 9.3x62 was the most popular cartridge in Africa until after WW2 when ammunition dried up for the German 9.3. That’s when the 375 H&H finally took the top spot of the medium bores (in the 40’s the 9.3 and 375 were considered medium bores.) the 9.3 is still very popular in Africa it just hasn’t been able to take back its spot from the 375.
The 9.3x57 "potato gun" and 9.3x62 pre-date (circa 1910) the Whelen, which was essentially a copy, and there are way more 9.3 cal bullet weight options, than the .358 cal. The 9.3x62 is just a necked up 30-06 like the Whelen but produces more energy than the Whelen. I believe this is because the 9.3 has a better shoulder angle than the Whelen. For bullets, I use 190 grain Norma, 250 grain Barnes, 270 grain Speer, 286 grain PPU, 300 grain Hornady, and 320 grain Norma. I'm sure the 9.3x64 is adaptable to use any of those sizes. Grafs & Sons used to sell basic 286 grain PPU soft points for a very good price, and while not fancy, they are a good, accurate bullet.
I own a CZ 550 in 9.3x62 for 18 years and reload for it so you are wrong on the 30-06 case is the same.
The 9.3x62 Mauser is 007" larger case than the 30-06 and that is why fools who think using 30-06 brass to make 9.3x62 Mauser ammo get split cases and blow out of smoke in their face around the bolt.
Yeah ! I was also stupid long ago to believe that nonsense to use 30-06 cases for the 9.3x62 until a Rem 06 case split and blew out blowing smoke and flame in my face around the bolt.
When I am guiding clients for Brown bear and Yukon Moose hunts the 9.3x62 is always with me using 67 grains of H-414 with a Barns TSX 286 grain bullet and so far, this has been a 1 shot kills and stops a bear charge NOW!
started guiding hunts in Alaska with a 338 win mag but the 9.3x62 Mauser with High end pressure reloads exceeds the killing effects of the 338 mag because of the larger bullet of the 9.3.
The animals I have to take on aren't over 200 yards and most well under 100 yards.
I will be starting the next hunts with a new rifle the AR 10 I've done in 375 -300 WSM a reloader cartridge that is a match of the 375 H&H magnum.
Absolutely spot on about 9.3x62 cases and 30/06 cases. I also fell for the using 30/06 cases for 9.3x62 cases and some worked but a lot didn’t lol. The 9.3x62 might just be my favorite cartridge to reload. I’m running 286 gr bullets at 2510 fps with ramshot big game. Factory 375 H&H loads run 2550 fps with 300 gr bullets. I wouldn’t carry my particular load to Africa just in case I would drop it down to 2400 fps to be safe, and well that loads been killing Buffalo for over a century now. The 375 can keep the extra velocity and I’ll take the extra sectional density of the 9.3 for Buffalo.
Hab einen 98er 9,3x64, Wilhelm Brenneke wollte ein Universal Kaliber für alles Wild dieser Welt von Alaska bis Süd - Afrika, and the bullitt works!
What’s crazy is how some of these German cartridges have modern designed cases that date back to the early 1900’s. I mean the 7x64, 8x68, 6.5x68 these pre dated the American 280 rem, 8mm rem mag, and 264 win mag by a long time. Some great cartridges across the pond over there in Europe they were making beltless magnums decades before Americans made their new beltless magnums.
Have a look at the 8x68s mauser
Was the 8mm rem mag before the 8 mm rem mag lol. It’s an awesome cartridge
Tip: Excel or Google spreadsheets, you can specify your own custom number format, so you just type the number rather than having to manually put text after a number. Example, you want to display 2650 fps, you go to number format, custom, put in #,##0"fps". When you type 2650 and enter it will display 2650fps. Use spaces and dots to suit. Same procedure with "ft.lbs" or anything you like. Beauty of this is they are actual numbers so you can still add up or do other calculations. Regards. 😊
Interesting video
Thanks
Long time 9.3x62 user here, and love the cartridge. I’ve always wanted that 9.3x64 though. Wonderful designed cartridge unfortunately I can see having issues getting reloading brass for it, much less finding a rifle chambered in it. I’m a 9.3 fanboy, love 375 too but the 9.3 mm has superior sectional density compared to 375. I would like to build a 9.3-375 ruger. Come on Hornady you make all this other stuff make us some dangerous game cartridges. You can’t just stop and the 375 and 416 ruger! lol.
I agree that this is a beautiful cartridge.
As much as I want one, though, I think the the 375H&H had a superior case design for dangerous game.
And, you pulled up some impressive numbers, but I wouldn't consider it a very close match to the 375 for power which I think my 260gr accubond loads are 2700fps. No replacement for displacement as the saying goes.
But, I think the 9.3x64 or even 9.3x62 are awesome for killers of all African game with less kick.
During the ivory hunting days after the 1900s at least one famous hunter turned the bullets around and killed a lt of elephants with either the 6.5x55 or 7x57, which i would probably compare to a butcher with a 22.
The 500 Jeffrey was probably created sooner, and probably the first rebated rim cartridge, and had a big influence on future cartridges.
Sorry for getting off track, but great video.
Thanks for watching and commenting
😃 You Forgot To Mention That The Germans Also Make The Best Rifle Scopes in the World Too - Schmidt and Bender Rifle Scopes! 😯
You will love this cartridge as it has, velocity for caliber, punch, and recoil! lol
🤠 What is Special About the Brenneke Cartridges is The They Are Right Around 0.5" in Width! That Allows You to Develop Wildcat Cartridges From Them - Getting Maxium Case Capacity, Without Giving Up Any Rounds in the Magazine! 🤔
Absolutely superb cartridge -- a long slow push recoil -- more power than a 338 but not quite a 375.
I have one in a custom rifle built on a Pre- war Mauser action, it is an excellent round. 270 grain and up bullets really get the best out of this cartridge. The Russians actually use it for military 🪖 purposes in some capacity as well.
Also used in the Dragunov SVD-K semi-auto sniper rifle...
The first rebated Rim Cartridges i know are the Schuler Rounds 8x68s and 6.5x68 together with the 9.3x64 these are the OG German Magnum Cartridges, in 1954 we Germans had also a 28 Nosler the 7x66 SE vom Hofe (SE stands for Super Express) which has identical Performance then 28 Nosler but also fit in a Standard Length Mauser Action 😉 you Americans are allways late to the Party 😂😂😂👍
The other Brennecke Rounds are also not bad 7x64 is by far the most popular (in France till today cause they arent allowed to use Military or Ex Military Cartridges) Performancewise it sits between 280 Rem and AI
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Can you still find rifles and ammunition for the 9.3x64 or is it completely obsolete?
Do any manufacturers still load for it or is it handload o ly?
I assume it's still relevant in Europe and Africa?
In Germany you can still find Ammo from RWS & Brennecke 5 different Offerings at the Moment, for Rifles Blaser are the only ones i actually know that chamber it nowadays
Yes and yes.
Would love to see you get and do a review on the 375 Weatherby mag, it's a brilliant cartridge but you just don't hear .much on it😮
I bought a rifle that was a k98 rebarreled and I thought it was a 8x64s. Ended up being a 300 win mag. Long story short, I ended up with 100 rounds of 8x64s rounds. Now I need a use for that ammo. Thinking about trying to buy one and reloading it for 9.3x64. I already have a otto bock 9.3x62. Can I resized the 8x64?
The 1st and 3rd wild boar in modern history ca 2004 were taken with a custom mauser and 286 Swift aframe In 9,3x64 .
Same rifle also went several African tours and lot of tours In Europe on driven game and more .
Load used were 250 grains up to 320 Woodleigh .
Newer bullets like the Rhino make it even better .
Have a look at the Rhino bullet YT page videos . US importers for them again now .
Don’t forget the German’s superior rifle scopes and optics not to mention their steel.
Exelent cardrige.
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I don't really think I have ever seen a rifle in that cartridge. I've heard it's good and that it has even seen some military use but I've never encountered factory rifles chambered in it or factory loadings. Almost everyone in Europe makes rifles in the slightly smaller but much more common 9.3x62 which is used a lot both in Africa and central Europe but the 9.3x64 Brenneke is somewhat forgotten.
I wouldnt mind trying to wildcat the weatherby 338 rpm to 9.3. Trying to recreate the x64
338 RPM case and the 9.3x64 are pretty similar
It's too bad this cartridge isn't available in this country. It's got a good bit more pizazz than a 9.3x62, and less recoil than a 375 Ruger. It would make the perfect cartridge for a hunting rifle to be used for anything on this planet - not as powerful as a 416 Remington but certainly easier to handle. But the odd rim diameter ensures it will never be in the North American market, unfortunately.
🤠 I Would Like To Take The 7x64 and Improve (Acklyize) It! That Would Give You 79 grains of Water Case Capacity (or 3 More Grains of Powder Than The 280 AI, But Still Using The Same Standard Action) and SAMMI Spec It To 65,000 psi!
It is allready done 7x64IX is the Name 😉
IX?
@@ronlowney4700 jep IX it is called 7x64ix they dont want to call it AI .... from what i know Bixn Andy has Reamers for it
👍Thank You! It Appears That It's Maximum Operating Pressure is 63,800 psi (According to Someone Who Owns One), So It Doesn't Appear That It Will Have Any Ballistic Advantage Over the 280 AI! How Unfortunate! 😢 But, Still a Great Cartridge Design! 🤔 I Guess Their is Nothing New Under the Sun Again? 🌞 But, I Tried!😪
Are you sure you pronounce the last syllable, the "'key" ?? I thought it was "Bren ek."
Probably said it won't
@@ReloadingWeatherby I wish I had a 9.3 Brennneke. Great round. In Russia it is a military round.
Ya... I'll stick to the American made 35 whelen!!!
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But it’s not comparable on a long stretch to Brenneke
@MrPh30
It kind of depends. I would much rather take the whelen over this round.
The whelen with 225 grains @ 2900 fps with 4200 ft-Ibs at muzzle will basically do everything an American hunter wants. With easily reloadable brass and standard mag capacity 4-5 that the o6 uses.
@@MrPh30 In reality, true. But for the majority of keyboard big game hunters their fav round will smoke em all. Still I chose the Whelen cuz I like 35's, its relatively cheap to load and will kill anything I will never hunt with it.
To confusing to hear the number 😂🤦
The fact you show an Audi instead of a Honda when talking about German auto superiority shows you know nothing about cars or guns. 😂
Hmm