How To Cut Gemstones - Iolite / Water Sapphire

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  • Опубликовано: 2 июл 2019
  • Hello. I'm an Australian Gem cutter and I facet gems from all over the world. In this video you will see me facet "Iolite" / "Water Sapphire" from Tanzania. This is my first attempt at faceting this unusual gem. Unfortunately, towards the end, the girdle peeled off due to heat on removal. However, I learnt a lot about the complex nature of faceting this gem. Hopefully, other gem cutters can learn from such a educational video. Standby for future videos. So until next time, take care.
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  • @freddywrx3338
    @freddywrx3338 3 года назад +1

    I enjoy all your videos as I'm new to faceting you're a great teacher thank you

  • @BobbyIronsights
    @BobbyIronsights 4 года назад +1

    I love you Vintage Time. I have lots of stress and anxiety, and watching your videos are mellow-making. Kudos.

    • @VintageTimeGems
      @VintageTimeGems  4 года назад

      This make me so happy that my videos calm and relaxes people.Cheers Robert, take care mate.

  • @mlgauss60435
    @mlgauss60435 5 лет назад +3

    I love Iolite! It has such a striking hue of blue! Shame on that beautiful stone for giving you fits!😉 Thanks for letting us watch your fantastic work!💎❤👏

  • @johncrumpley8702
    @johncrumpley8702 5 лет назад +2

    Very nice video, Cliff. Like most cutters, I was sick to see the girdle fracture.
    Thanks for sharing your work.

  • @iedreams
    @iedreams 5 лет назад +1

    Glad to see a new gem, learn some good info too.

  • @tamwolf20
    @tamwolf20 5 лет назад +1

    Great video, I always learn something from your videos.
    Thank you Cliff and Jaws.

  • @jeffreyallen3796
    @jeffreyallen3796 4 года назад

    That was a treat! Thank you for the video.

  • @SpeedRacer-pz9jn
    @SpeedRacer-pz9jn 5 лет назад +1

    Aww shucks...... an Iolite bit Cliff too lol. After my disastrous Iolite faceting attempt a few weeks ago I learned that if your Iolite has any inclusions, make a lovely cabochon with nice rounded edges. I've been cabbing my small pile for about a decade. It holds together well in cabochon form. I still have a 5 gallon bucket full. It came from Connecticut.
    The Vikings used Iolites for navigation. It acts as a polarizing filter & allowed the sailors to find the sun behind cloud cover. And newer diesel trucks have this(in the form of cordierite) in the exhaust system to capture carbon.
    Keep them coming, Cliff ! And thanks for showing how much of a PITA faceting Iolite is lolol - you helped my ego to recover somewhat after my Iolite faceting fiasco ; ^ )

    • @VintageTimeGems
      @VintageTimeGems  5 лет назад +1

      I have a feeling that Iolite is more suitable for cabbing. Just seems too brittle to have it even set. It has a great colour. If the hardness was greater it would be up there with the best gem material. I will need to give this another try someday. Cheers.

    • @SpeedRacer-pz9jn
      @SpeedRacer-pz9jn 5 лет назад

      @@VintageTimeGems the most heartbreaking thing about the stone is you gave it a nice fat girdle & it still bit you. These stones don't play nice lol

    • @buggsy5
      @buggsy5 4 года назад

      @@VintageTimeGems One thing you might try with an iolite is a combination stone. Facet the pavilion and cap the top, rounding the girdle into both the pavilion and crown. It would obviously produce a far from ideal gem, but it might end up sturdy enough to be mounted in a piece of jewelry.

  • @Moregems
    @Moregems 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks just preparing to cut iolite. Fortunately I always use epoxy as I once shattered a 100 carat tanzanite while transferring when I used wax. It was the start of my using epoxy.

  • @gristlevonraben
    @gristlevonraben 5 лет назад +4

    Wonderful! You could carve four facits in the hole, line it with gold or silver, and call it the compass stone!

  • @kathylecluyse7820
    @kathylecluyse7820 5 лет назад +3

    Lovely gem, I particularly like how the light brings out the different colours. Shame about the fracture - but I'd wear it anyhow ,-)!

  • @stuntone
    @stuntone 5 лет назад +2

    Great wk, I’m just starting out in this lapidary trade. And I’m in Love with it. Learning quickly, thank You for all Your Content.
    🙏🏽💎✌🏽🔴🎥🎙🌎

    • @VintageTimeGems
      @VintageTimeGems  5 лет назад +2

      Thanks Charles....Faceting is a great interest and hobby.

  • @johnh8615
    @johnh8615 5 лет назад +1

    What a beautiful gem still a great specimen.

  • @toddroe3910
    @toddroe3910 5 лет назад +2

    Oh thank you for going all the way with it, even if it fractured at the very end! I love your videos and this just drives the point home that things happen beyond our control and all we can do is learn from them. Your work is inspiring! I am saving up for a faceting machine for myself. I've been wanting to cut gems for a very long time!

    • @VintageTimeGems
      @VintageTimeGems  5 лет назад

      Let me know how you go when you begin faceting Todd....Cheers

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  • @susannesamuelsson2930
    @susannesamuelsson2930 3 года назад +1

    Did not now anything about this special gem Iolite or Water Sapphire before but as a blue person ( i love the color ) and colorshift of the stone it´s wonderful gem and your work is amazing even if sometimes a mistake can happen and without doing them it´s hard to learn! Hugs, Susanne.

  • @canadiangemstones7636
    @canadiangemstones7636 Год назад +1

    Well now I’m in the mood to cut some cordierite.

  • @marksgemfaceting
    @marksgemfaceting 2 года назад

    You must have taken your chill pill that day with that cool reaction to a chip

  • @patriciasilvabrasilpedrasp3788
    @patriciasilvabrasilpedrasp3788 4 года назад +2

    Muito linda sua pedra.
    Fiquei encantada com a cor.

  • @Goomatora
    @Goomatora 5 лет назад +2

    I read iolite as LOLite, as always great video. Also congrats on 17K

    • @VintageTimeGems
      @VintageTimeGems  5 лет назад +1

      Thanks Goomatora.....

    • @SpeedRacer-pz9jn
      @SpeedRacer-pz9jn 5 лет назад

      Agreed - Lolite is a more suitable name, since these stones are laughing at me & Cliff ; ^ )

  • @tgfcujhb7583
    @tgfcujhb7583 5 лет назад +2

    I like your disk rack, great idea.👌

    • @VintageTimeGems
      @VintageTimeGems  5 лет назад

      A few toast tacks a CD holder makes it easy to store the discs and they dry out also.

  • @supernatureza
    @supernatureza 5 лет назад +2

    Very very nice

  • @instagem2693
    @instagem2693 2 года назад

    Very informative :)

  • @chanvalentine8283
    @chanvalentine8283 5 лет назад +1

    I love the cabasion (sp- spell check grr) cut for this gem.

    • @buggsy5
      @buggsy5 4 года назад

      It isn't a cabochon, since it is faceted. It is just a standard brilliant cut.

  • @guilhermeribeirojunior6592
    @guilhermeribeirojunior6592 4 года назад

    Muito bonito seu trabalho.

  • @margodilbeck5378
    @margodilbeck5378 4 года назад

    Beautiful

  • @qadirkhan6916
    @qadirkhan6916 4 года назад +1

    Vary goods work sir.

  • @KingLoopie1
    @KingLoopie1 3 года назад +1

    It's still a nice stone even with the chip. Polish the chip out and cover that with a unique prong, or recut it into a triangle or something.

  • @samuelmerchante1187
    @samuelmerchante1187 4 года назад +1

    Love your videos !!! From Greensboro North Carolina, I'm learning from you a lot some times wish you mention the type of disk and the grit you used overall they are fantastic an great learning expereance

  • @chamesseddinetalghamti8398
    @chamesseddinetalghamti8398 5 лет назад

    good job

  • @TheRaoulsdaddy
    @TheRaoulsdaddy 5 лет назад +1

    We learn much more from our mistakes and we dont forget as easily.You did a fine job! wonders whether we will see it in a recut further down the track?

    • @VintageTimeGems
      @VintageTimeGems  5 лет назад

      Not sure if I will recut. It would be a very small gem, around 4mm I assume.

  • @ianbulkeley5624
    @ianbulkeley5624 5 лет назад +1

    Hi Cliff, unlucky with the girdle, but still a wonderful video, and beautiful gemstone.

    • @VintageTimeGems
      @VintageTimeGems  5 лет назад

      Hi Ian, Once in a while things like this can happen. It's part of faceting. Cheers

  • @gusser2121
    @gusser2121 5 лет назад +3

    What a lovely stone with the exception of its brittle properties. Is there any remedial faceting you can do to try to salvage the gem? (Hello from Canada, btw)

    • @VintageTimeGems
      @VintageTimeGems  5 лет назад +3

      I could salvage it, but the gem would be a lot smaller. I'm best to just facet another piece of rough Iolite.

  • @FatKidBrody
    @FatKidBrody 5 лет назад +1

    That's interesting because I have chipped the girdle on an Iolite as I was setting it. No you don't want to know the new nicknames for that stone. I had never heard about the problem with their girdles before. Yours looked good up and until the chip.

    • @VintageTimeGems
      @VintageTimeGems  5 лет назад +1

      I'm sure it has many alternative names. Seems that girdles and the brittle nature of this gem is a issue.

    • @buggsy5
      @buggsy5 4 года назад +1

      @@VintageTimeGems The cleavage is so perfect that even setting the prongs further up on the crown than usual does not eliminate the chipping risk. I suspect that you could put the prongs on the table and some stones would still fracture.
      To me, iolite is a display stone, best displayed unmounted.

  • @christineingram55
    @christineingram55 4 года назад

    What a shame after all that hard work..I know it takes much longer than the video to cut these beautiful stones,but I guess you know a lot more about them nor ..it is so beautiful too and the depth of colour is gorgeous 😀

  • @adaopereiranorastrodaspedr2727
    @adaopereiranorastrodaspedr2727 5 лет назад

    Uau lindo demais Parabéns super joinha

  • @charlesstewart9246
    @charlesstewart9246 3 года назад

    Better than what, don't think Tim would agree with you on whats better,sapphire or tanzinite. Mind you do know your stuff pity it chipped but a learning experience 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿💎😁🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿💎

    • @VintageTimeGems
      @VintageTimeGems  3 года назад

      Aussie Sapphire is cherry picked. The really good stuff never sees the light of day. Ask Tim?

  • @Infamous41
    @Infamous41 Год назад

    It looks like Tanzanite its very beaut

  • @CraigConnors
    @CraigConnors 5 лет назад

    If this type of stone were to be heat treated would it lose it's color and would it become a harder or softer stone? Thanks, always love watching the progression of each stone you cut.

    • @VintageTimeGems
      @VintageTimeGems  5 лет назад +1

      I would think it would lighten. There is really no need to heat treat Iolite as it has a nice natural color. Thanks for watching....Cheers

  • @EdsonFerreira-fh8fx
    @EdsonFerreira-fh8fx 3 года назад

    Top top top ❤️❤️

  • @hakancoskan5862
    @hakancoskan5862 5 лет назад +1

    🤩 çok güzelllll....

  • @brandonhalliday2029
    @brandonhalliday2029 5 лет назад

    What a bummer, looked like a great stone.

    • @VintageTimeGems
      @VintageTimeGems  5 лет назад

      Yes, I think it was a good gem. But that's faceting for you. Cheers

  • @DonnaChassie
    @DonnaChassie 11 месяцев назад

    Dear Vintage Time. My dops have no index pin. I have to eyeball it, vertical, when the dop is in the transfer jig. Can You help?

  •  5 лет назад

    Ficou bonita

  • @perlasmermaid5812
    @perlasmermaid5812 5 лет назад +1

    You sound so calm after the stone broke. Had it been me the video would have been demonetized for all the swearing.

    • @VintageTimeGems
      @VintageTimeGems  5 лет назад

      Once in a while thing like this happen. It's part of faceting. Often the gem will not play ball.

  • @mattsmith1568
    @mattsmith1568 5 лет назад

    Where do you get the protractor equipment? I don't know what to search for. I have seen them on wish or something cheap from China, but I wonder how they hold up. Is what you use a facetron?

    • @VintageTimeGems
      @VintageTimeGems  5 лет назад

      The protractor is built onto the machine. I use a Australian machine called a Facetstar.

    • @buggsy5
      @buggsy5 4 года назад

      No, the Facetron has a dial indicator calibrated in 0.1 degree increments.

  • @Semillita-lb3nr
    @Semillita-lb3nr 2 года назад

    👍

  • @batoklumpat
    @batoklumpat 5 лет назад

    how cratz of that rough sir? and how cratz has been fisnish gems?

  • @lisabroestaff7133
    @lisabroestaff7133 5 лет назад

    That is disappointing that the stone cracked; it was beautiful! How do you know when to stop grinding? Does your machine have a setting, or do you do it by eye?

    • @VintageTimeGems
      @VintageTimeGems  5 лет назад +1

      I facet by eye and sound,

    • @buggsy5
      @buggsy5 4 года назад

      Machines have a mechanical stop that can be used for rough cutting and the angle scale is calibrated for when the quill is resting on the stop. Once you are close, it is as Cliff said, it is cut a little, look, cut a bit more, look - continue until satisfied.You do the final facet adjustment during polishing.

  • @aaronluck9336
    @aaronluck9336 5 лет назад +1

    awesome video mate i have always loved Iolite,,,, I'm an aussie prospector and i have a few small pieces of Australian Iolite i would love to get cut if you are interested in cutting some aussie Iolite

    • @VintageTimeGems
      @VintageTimeGems  5 лет назад

      A gentleman at my gem club has some Aussie iolite. Iolite in Australia is typically flawed and not as bright in colour. It would make a great gem to cut if clean. Thanks for the offer, but iolite comes with all types of cutting issues. I'd hate to mess up on a piece of rough that someone else owns.....Cheers

  • @charlesadkins7067
    @charlesadkins7067 8 месяцев назад

    great stone i have about 4000 cts rough myself maybe i can cut some

  • @coinparadise
    @coinparadise 5 лет назад +2

    SHKW US HOW TO CUT THIS STONE😍😊👏👏👏

  • @eduardvaniersel7535
    @eduardvaniersel7535 5 лет назад +1

    Shame it chipped, it has an amazing colour. Could you recut the gem to get rid of the chip out?

  • @barthanes1
    @barthanes1 5 лет назад +1

    Cool gem, I had never heard of it.

  • @xXSphinxGamingXx
    @xXSphinxGamingXx 5 лет назад

    Do you do this for fun or professionally? Who do you sell the cut jewels to?

  • @rajeevkamra9120
    @rajeevkamra9120 4 года назад

    love from india where would i get this machine ?

  • @Ryan-zh5iw
    @Ryan-zh5iw 5 лет назад

    what do you do with the bucket of run off water after your cut a gem?

  • @Repair-rookie
    @Repair-rookie 2 года назад

    What machine would you recommend for a beginner.

  • @isurumaddumage1922
    @isurumaddumage1922 Год назад

    I think cushion cut would have give you more yield of the stone.

  • @kabanchan5768
    @kabanchan5768 5 лет назад +1

    who ever did the 2 dislikes have no souls

  • @MohamedM-98
    @MohamedM-98 3 года назад

    What is the weight of the rough and afyer cut??

  • @bellashegitu747
    @bellashegitu747 5 лет назад +2

    Do u take apprentices?

    • @VintageTimeGems
      @VintageTimeGems  5 лет назад

      Sorry....Not taking on apprentices Bella. If you have a gem club nearby they can teach you.

    • @bellashegitu747
      @bellashegitu747 5 лет назад +1

      Vintage Time Thank you all the same. I look forward to learning from your videos. God bless you!

  • @andrenewcomb3708
    @andrenewcomb3708 5 лет назад

    Does he use the grindings?

  • @joann5157
    @joann5157 5 лет назад

    I am as disappointed as you are about the unfortunate fracture after all of your hard work. The stone's color was so pretty. But as you said, you learned something from the experience. Is there any way to salvage it in a setting?

  • @big9752
    @big9752 Год назад

    What kind of machine is this?

  • @keithl7852
    @keithl7852 5 лет назад

    What does a vail in the stone mean?

    • @VintageTimeGems
      @VintageTimeGems  5 лет назад +1

      A veil is a term used when bright light reveals a thin white opaque flaw running internally in the gem. In the case of this gem, under normal light it is impossible to see.

  • @jameswelch1054
    @jameswelch1054 4 года назад

    Too bad it is so brittle, it is a beautiful gem.

  • @GreaseMonkeyTopTech
    @GreaseMonkeyTopTech 2 года назад

    How about a yogo sapphire from Montana?

    • @VintageTimeGems
      @VintageTimeGems  2 года назад

      Love to facet a Sapphire from Montana one day...Cheers

  • @clydecox2108
    @clydecox2108 5 лет назад

    I cried

    • @VintageTimeGems
      @VintageTimeGems  5 лет назад +1

      If it was a $1000 Sapphire I'd cry and be very annoyed. It's good to learn about faceting such gems.

    • @clydecox2108
      @clydecox2108 5 лет назад

      @@VintageTimeGemsI understand, still a beautiful stone and a lot of work.

  • @trptrungblogs
    @trptrungblogs Год назад

    💓💓🤗💎🤗💎❤️💎

  • @ricobiggart9339
    @ricobiggart9339 5 лет назад

    I cri

  • @paulcooper8818
    @paulcooper8818 5 лет назад

    I think I'm more disappointed than you are about the outcome.
    The fracture is a pity especially as the gem has such a beautifully intense color.
    I have a 1.00ct Iolite that is bluish-gray. I'm guessing the table is not along the optimal axis for color.
    Viewing from the side shows a deeper blue.

  • @mohamedmisban7038
    @mohamedmisban7038 Год назад +1

    It’s wrong way cut it blue foun anther side

  • @RayRusawcocktailminer
    @RayRusawcocktailminer 5 лет назад

    bugger