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@@flatearthjackal9201 There's plenty of evidence out there proving you wrong. Actual experts have wasted their time trying to convince you. Yet while you expect others to be "open minded", nothing will change what you believe. When presented with a conspiracy like this though, I always ask: why? Why is everyone lying to us about this? That makes no sense. People believed the Earth was flat. Religious people longer than others. If it was, no one would be trying to hide it. Instead, it was proven not to be. There's literally no reason at this point to still think it actually is. This is why we mock you. You're not smarter than everyone else. This doesn't make you special. You just sound crazy. 🙄
I thought Flatzoid was a slur that you just made up for flat earthers, I didn't think that was his screen name lmao Also flat earthers not understanding that, by definition, you must have a hypothesis to conduct an experiment is just beautiful
Because communities like these don't even know what science actually is! They treat science like a set of ideas you either subscribe to or don't. In reality, science is a process for testing applicability, consistency, and reproduceability. It's no coincidence they do none of that and constantly contradict themselves.
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They do like to take on insults as screen names for some reason
Bruh they used a fucking horrendous looking AI image of "Blanka" and then complained about your profile picture looking off? The gall of some people astounds me.
@Th3Birdman ... It's because I still owe you that popcorn from the Rush Hour review, isn't it? Jokes aside, have a good day man. I'm about to embark on an adventure I never believed possible. Wish me luck!
@Th3Birdman No the earth is flat after all, its all the same time zone I feel like I shouldn't have to state this but this is a joke before someone replies to me
Between "Racism is actually Misandry" and "Calling Flat Earth Pseudo Science makes you a Bigot" you've been on a roll with attracting the most insane takes online, Birdman LMAO Love this content 😂
Shows they think they are special and deserve protection. They want to be able to say what they want without opposition. They think calling then things like a pseudo-scientist and fool are ad hominium attacks and an excuse to ignore anyone. You see it's ok for THEM to use insults but the moment anyone else calls them out for their own nonsense that's bad.
I gave up with flat earthers years ago. Much respect for you dealing with this, but I can't anymore. It just burns my brain out. Here's a comment and a view, though, to encourage the algorithm.
There's actually a rich pastor that's paying for like three flat earthers to go to Antartica prove the 24 hour sun. Professor Dave (another RUclipsr who makes debunk/science videos) told the pastor that it was pointless because they'd either claim the footage was fake, or they weren't actually in Antarctica, or they'll change their view to concede that the 24 hour sun is possible, but that the earth is still flat. They disregard any proof to maintain this weird belief, all because they misunderstand science and refuse to update their worldview to accommodate new information. Also anti-establishment bias.
If they weren't getting money off grifting I'd fully be with you but they unfortunately have a huge influence on people and even in politics even senators
My only thought halfway through this video was "Birdman, stop beating on this man. He's already dead!" Jokes aside though, it kills me to admit it but videos like this are sorely needed. Well done, bro!
If Flat Earthers were merely doubted the Earth was a sphere, they would be fine saying "they aren't making a claim." If they are asserting the Globe is wrong, therefore the Earth is flat ... that is a claim. Also, no one is afraid of debating a Flat Earthers; people just don't have the energy to deal with bs.
What is really incredible is that the exact same arguments were used the previous time flat earth showed up back between 1850 and 1915 or so. The Library of Congress has a nice list of some of those books and pamphlets so you can see just how similar all the arguments are. The books are on the way back machine.
Not only that: On one side you have evidence, repeatable, testable, observable. On the other hand, you have conspiracies, vaccines are bad, the bible says, I don't understand therefore it's fake... What kind of a debate is this? Jfc...
@@grantpowell4135 NASA literally live streams the earth from space I watch it prior to going to bed and keep it on until I wake up and watch for an hour It's been proven the Earth is a globe they just move the goal post whenever you ask to prove it
Honestly, the easiest debunk of flat Earth is that they don't have a model they can show (one that actually can be used to demonstrate things we see on Earth with our actual eyes) and we do (and it works just fine). They can't even agree on basic features like its width, if there's a dome and how high it is, where Polaris is physically located in that model etc. And of course their refusal to go to Antarctica to see something that they supposedly already believe (that Midnight Sun is "impossible") - *FOR FREE* - tells us that they have belief, but not confidence. Even Pastor Dean Ogle rejected it after saying in a debate with fellow pastor Greg Locke (globe Earther) that "Me and you should go there, Greg. If the sun goes all the way around the horizon then the Earth is a globe. if not, then it's flat." He gets a free ticket to do just that and says, "Uh...Um...I have to wash my car that week. Yeah, that's the ticket!"
Because Its a grift. The figureheads of Flat earth know for certain the earth is round but they can’t secede. They depend on their audience who are either not well versed in science, fundamentalist, and those who are mentally unwell or a combination of the three to give their videos views, ad revenue and PayPal. They have been given mountains of evidence, from laymen to tenured experts. They’ve been at this for almost a decade now and they still can’t come up with a working flat earth model that matches our observations of the world.
They used to have a model they copied off Samuel Rowbotham but they starterd to find out that would get them trapped. So they shifted over to not making any firm stance on anything hoping that if they can't be pinned down they can't be refuted. They went from something to admitting they have nothing. They don't realize why that is a terrible place to go off to.
How can these people even exist? We literally watched a rocket the size of a skyscraper go out to space and come back live. We could all see the globe and curve clear as day.
Its worse because if what the other comments are saying is true that he knows his stance is false. It makes Jeremys feigning ignorance bit look like childs play. Lol
Re: No Flat Earthers being scientists. He does make a point that not everyone can do the same job. BUT if you want to know stuff about farming are you asking a farmer or PE teacher? The same can be applied to science
@@jbz4788 The problem is he’s using that as an excuse to not have to do the work that he demands of anyone else. He insists that Cavendish was not an experiment but none of them bother to even try to do it they just declare that it doesn’t work. They aren’t willing to live up to their own standards of evidence.
Side note, can people please stop calling a few paragraph essays... (Obviously I'm not referring to the Birdman here) 1. If I sent those set of paragraphs to my old school teacher as an essay, I'd be asked to right a few PAGES 2. Do we really not have the attention span to read a few paragraphs anymore?
people are too used to reading standard length texts, so when they get anything more than a few sentences, their brains break and they forget how to read.
It infuriates me especially when I’m arguing my position and articulating the facts and they just respond with “I’m not reading all of that but you’re still wrong” But to be fair and balanced there are 5 paragraph essays, it’s what I was first taught when writing essays.
I swear these play out like action movies lmao. and im learning some new stuff. I knew there was stuff that debunked Flat earth but wasn't interested. im fully invested in this series. Thank you Birdman!!!
17:25 - It's like he didn't even acknowledge the quotations for the word 'conversation' and the part where you said "Debates (and let's not kid ourselves, this is what you mean by "conversation")..." He has to be purposely misrepresenting the point by suggesting you don't know the difference between a conversation and a debate.
I am genuinely curious how this crazy band of lunatics would try and explain how out of the countless number of planets, stars and other celestial objects in our ever expanding universe we just happened to be the only one that is flat?
They tend to disagree with basically the entire field of Astronomy, so at a guess I'd say the majority of them don't believe in exoplanets outside of our solar system. They believe in stars, which are a different thing from the Sun, and they believe in a handful of planets, which are a different thing from the Earth. Basically, if you can't see a thing easily with a $50 telescope you bought from Wal-Mart, it must not be real.
They either say that it’s a fallacy to assume that the other planets and the Earth are the same kind of object, or that they’re not material or even physical objects at all (they refer to them as ‘luminaries’)
Starting to think this flat earth mentality is something akin to the lack of object permanence. A certain conceptual blindness to scale or perhaps an inability to imagine or comprehend the celestially massive.. It certainly can't be raw idiocy.. right?
I know they are REALLY not good at thinking in 3 dimensions. They also don’t comprehend vast distances (and deep time) very well either, though I’m fairly certain there’s also a lot of willful ignorance happening with folks like this.
I'd say the comparison is fair, especially related to their explanations for observations. They will immediately "forget" one thing they said. All their reasoning is ad hoc, so their explanations can't be connected to one another. It reminds me of a quote by Roland Barthes about "professional" wrestling. "In other words, wrestling is a sum of spectacles, of which no single one is a function: each moment imposes the total knowledge of a passion which rises erect and alone, without ever extending to the crowning moment of a result."
Isn't it really in the end just a lack of understanding on the person's part. That he is indeed wrong. The problem is people not being able to be wrong or mistaken or even try to listen to others ideas because they dislike a person for a,b,c.
I like how Flatzoid calls your comment rude. Maybe it wasn’t the most gentle scolding, but has he never seen any of Professor Dave’s videos? That’s what I’d call rude if I were a FLERF. Also, I learned that today is the anniversary of Dragon Ball’s release. HBD to the original shounen! It may not be my favorite series, but as someone with a One Piece pfp, I remove my straw hat for you
@active8335 i swear one day Th3Birdman is gonna hopefully find time in his busy schedule to create the shirt with all his variants on it. Like please take my money
33:21 - Typo. #5 says the seasons are the "cause" of the axial tilt and location of the Earth, when I'm pretty sure what you meant to type was the "result"
I had my first actual debate with a flat earther yesterday just so I can see what it’s like to argue with one of them. Lemme tell ya I will NOT be doing that again. It felt like my brain was melting listening to that shit.
It's more fun to make them look foolish.... If you actually try to nail things down point by point, you'll end up wasting an hour on every single point just to end at an obstinate "I don't believe that, it makes no sense!"
@@tubebammy hey, you wanna see a priceless reaction? All I'm saying is, next time one asks if you'd eat ethically sourced human meat.... Say yes. *Chef's kiss*
Hey Birdman! Gotta say, I really applaud your patience in always expressing your points clearly and eloquently. Also your videos are always just tons of fun! Hope you have the most tremendous time in Japan probably nerding out, eating quality fish and feeding bowing deer. Looking forward to more of your vids!
Because they don’t have very much experience with actual human interaction. They just happen to be bold enough to start a RUclips channel. Their fans are exactly the same minus the boldness to start a RUclips channel. That’s why their echo chamber exists. They are boring, weak minded people who prey on other boring and weak minded people.
@@lexsavage3311 F11atzoid? lol. Never. He knows that would destroy his "flat earth/not flat earth" grift. It's 100% the one reason that anyone has ever even heard of him.
Flatzoid demonstrated his dishonesty years ago by editing out evidence of Earths curvature from a clip he used on his channel. He played the edited clip, with 11 frames missing, on his channel, oblivious to the fact that the original, unedited version, was still freely available elsewhere. They don't call him 'Flatzoid 11' for nothing. He's incapable of honest debate.
Like all of them he will interrupt and talk over you insisting that they control the conversation. Flatz is particularly bad at it. He also loves to “sea lion” repeating the same thing over and over even if you manage to address it they’ll keep throwing at you.
I don't know if this question has ever been answered, but... why? Why would people hide a 'flat earth' from everyone and pretend its round? It makes no sense. The amount of people you would have to pay to keep quiet, or the amount of editing and the iron first you would have to use to keep the fact that Earth is flat is preposterous.
These people are religious (as in Judeo-Christian religious). They are anti-evolution, they believe Astronomy "isn't a real science" and in general, their thought processes are centered around the bible as the bible implies the Earth is flat. That is to say, they believe in defending the Flat Earth Hypothesis they are defending their religion. Flatzoid is a staunch Christian and anti-Evolutionist, as are the morons that appear in his livestreams. He will readily admit this if you ask. He's also a lying piece of shit grifter that is misleading (thankfully a small amount of ) people for monetary gain.
They claim to be "open minded" and expect you to change your mind... while refusing to be open minded enough to admit they might be wrong. Despite repeatedly being proven wrong. They can't even answer the 1 thing that destroys a lot of conspiracies: why? Why is everyone in charge supposedly "lying" about this? Makes no sense. Enjoy your travels, no idea why you'd even want to come back here at this point though.
51:51 About the comment deletion thing, there is a possibility it was youtube's automated chat moderation, it's been affecting me in a lot of other channels. now I COULD be wrong to assume that considering the topic of the video. But for this thing in particular i'm willing to make the benefit of the doubt as I speak from experience
I know how comments work. I am a content creator, remember? He deleted my comments. That's why that same comment is still on my channel, and why it's gone on his, multiple times. RUclips does not selectively delete the exact same comment on different channels-- the content creator does that.
@@Th3Birdman 👏good job on your research by the way (which i totally missed when i commented my bad dawg), not a lot of people go through the trouble on finding out the reason why the bot is even targetting the comment
The part where they denied being conspiracy theorists, that's the part that got me. They probably hear "conspiracy theory" and just translate that as "insane ramblings" since that's what the vast majority of them are.
I've just realised the irony of using the term 'Conspiracy Theorist' and 'Conspiracy Theory' when talking with people like this because that is the usages of theory they use.
You can guarantee that Flatzoid will produce a three-hour video (in which he pauses _your_ video every eight seconds to comment on it) as a response, generating more "content" for his channel.
I swear you could put flat earthers on a plane and give them a one way trip around the globe, and they'd still find some way to try and tell you that the Earth is flat. It's a shame RUclips gives these people a platform.
I Mean, why wouldn't it give them a platform? If they want to VERY Publicly Humiliate themselves, it's their right! Heck they're doing us a favor by Exposing other morons along the way! (Their followers)
They've been given an actual trip to antarctica and are still talking out their asses. You could send them to SPACE and they'd still be fucking stupid.
Well, yeah. They're convinced the airlines are in cohorts with "globtard" governments, flying specific paths to avoid even seeing the edges of the earth. You could give the flat-earthers an all-expenses-paid trip to Antartica and they would try to convince you that you somehow took them to a sound stage
"...people debate, you are not the debate..." Aaaaaaand that right there is why he doesn't want text responses. There are obviously a multitude of reasons why someone could have a hard time reading, so no shade there. HOWEVER, it does go hand in hand with a flat earther lol.
Flatz struggles to understand spoken English - even moreso to understand written English. Plus it doesn't generate the type of content that his Clown Cavalcade appreciates. They have no patience (nor aptitude) for reading. Which is perhaps why they're in the state they are.
4:27 As presented on the meme image from left to right: Joe Budden, Lord Jamar, The Critical Drinker, Jeremy Scott of CinemaSins, Madvocate and Flatzoid.
@@StormSlayer69 He made a negative review on Deadpool X Wolverine, as well as made a poor take on Spider-Man: Far From Home. Madvocate either missed the whole points of the premises or simply doesn't understand the rules within those two movies.
@@MoskHoteloh, for a sec I thought Sadvocate attacked Birdman again and Birdman was gonna have to smoke him… again But yeah, that DxW video sucked, Colin. did a good job dunking in him
I love your content. My grandmother always told me, "Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. " Good luck trying to teach these idiots.
"Flat Eather doesn't understand basic concepts and language. More at 9." I don't know how you are able to keep debunking this people, it's just tiring having to explain the same basic thing over and over again to people that will just close their eyes and say "La la la I can't hear you."
@@Th3Birdman 🤩cant wait. quick question while i catch you : which one is personally more satisfying for you to make a video about, cinemasins, games or idiots that decides to come at you ?
okay, i realize im only half an hour into a video about their two-hour stream, so im missing the majority of it, but is there a point to there being five of them there? it's mostly just flatzoid yapping, with four yes men occasionally chiming in to tell him how right he is. the two without webcams barely contribute anything beyond the occasional "yeah," the person on the left appears to be doing something else the entire time, and the other guy took them all on a 3 and a half minute tangent about _just_ the thumbnail of a totally unrelated video. do you _need_ to invite four people to listen to you talk for two hours? it reeks of "desperate for validation"
Th3Birdman: “You’re not a bear. You’re not even Winnie the Pooh.” Me, adding something meaningless to the conversation: “You’re a stuffed animal.” Also Sheol is the name of the Hebrew underworld that is more like a waiting room of sorts for souls when they’re down there.
90% of Flatzoid's subs and viewers are Globe believers, just there to mock and laugh. Most of the Flat Earth fraternity hate Him One of the best responses to him I have seen look forward to part 2
OK, check, don't HATE on putting the peanut butter and jelly on the outside of a sandwich. Ok, I never tried it, but I bet it is still really good. Just make sure you use white bread, son.
Dude. I have known children with this level of comprehension and short term memory. They are/were genuinely aggrivating to deal with. I cannot imagine if they never grew past that (some haven't but like, i don't bother now) Having the complete inability to cache a statement and then understand it as context for a following statement is... Just... The worst. Like, this argument is effectively: "You can't have a cookie right now. If you do your homework before 5:00, then ill let you have a treat." "That doesn't make sense! You said I couldn't have a cookie, but then said I could have a treat??? Clearly you are just delusional" This is the level of talking in circles involved, but it's required to prop up a full on worldview...
Greetings Mr. Th3Birdman! first time seeing one of your vids, blame the YT algorithm. This was hysterical. FLERFs are the worst.... okay... dumbest? nope, alright, bottom 1% in all categories. i have subscribed and will be going back and watching your vids. FYI, Sir, i hit the subscribe button when you called him a, "human smegma nugget". i laughed so hard i snarffed my water all over my keyboard. totally worth it. and yup, he did poke the bear and woke him up. The 5 horsemen of FLERF moron apocalypses.
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@@Th3Birdman can you make a video with an actual scientific experiment proving you can have gas/air pressure without a container, thanks 😊
@flatearthjackal9201 You already got responses on your actual comment you haven't responded to mate
Ah yes, my favourite Spider-Man quote
@@flatearthjackal9201 There's plenty of evidence out there proving you wrong. Actual experts have wasted their time trying to convince you. Yet while you expect others to be "open minded", nothing will change what you believe. When presented with a conspiracy like this though, I always ask: why? Why is everyone lying to us about this? That makes no sense. People believed the Earth was flat. Religious people longer than others. If it was, no one would be trying to hide it. Instead, it was proven not to be. There's literally no reason at this point to still think it actually is.
This is why we mock you. You're not smarter than everyone else. This doesn't make you special. You just sound crazy. 🙄
I thought Flatzoid was a slur that you just made up for flat earthers, I didn't think that was his screen name lmao
Also flat earthers not understanding that, by definition, you must have a hypothesis to conduct an experiment is just beautiful
I thought the same until I heard one of the flerfs call him that😂😂😂
Flatzoid lol never heard of it
Because communities like these don't even know what science actually is! They treat science like a set of ideas you either subscribe to or don't. In reality, science is a process for testing applicability, consistency, and reproduceability.
It's no coincidence they do none of that and constantly contradict themselves.
They do like to take on insults as screen names for some reason
It should be a slur.
The fact that these guys are legally eligible to vote, drive, reproduce, adopt, and teach is terrifyingly absurd.
The beauty of free will
A stretch a majority of them has a chance to reproduce.
@@Eccentric_Charliethe Borderline moronic spawn like rabbits or yeast. Even if the relationship won't last.
Bruh they used a fucking horrendous looking AI image of "Blanka" and then complained about your profile picture looking off? The gall of some people astounds me.
He also said he ‘created’ it, rather than slapped his keyboard to get a few AI prompts
That ain't Blanka, that's blanket
@DoctorOfPies they have the galliest of galls lol
Also that is not blanka at 13:42. That's the Kentucky imbreed half cooked braindead version of Blanka. In my humble opinion lol
of course these dipshits use AI
My conspiracy theory is that Th3Birdman likes to drive me insane by posting vids at 7 freaking AM.
Prove me wrong.
For the majority of the population, it's not 7 am.
Done.
@Th3Birdman ... It's because I still owe you that popcorn from the Rush Hour review, isn't it?
Jokes aside, have a good day man. I'm about to embark on an adventure I never believed possible. Wish me luck!
@Th3Birdman, you're right. It's 6am when you posted this on my end 😂
It’s 8:05 am. Duh 😎
@Th3Birdman No the earth is flat after all, its all the same time zone
I feel like I shouldn't have to state this but this is a joke before someone replies to me
Between "Racism is actually Misandry" and "Calling Flat Earth Pseudo Science makes you a Bigot" you've been on a roll with attracting the most insane takes online, Birdman LMAO
Love this content 😂
Shows they think they are special and deserve protection. They want to be able to say what they want without opposition. They think calling then things like a pseudo-scientist and fool are ad hominium attacks and an excuse to ignore anyone. You see it's ok for THEM to use insults but the moment anyone else calls them out for their own nonsense that's bad.
I gave up with flat earthers years ago. Much respect for you dealing with this, but I can't anymore. It just burns my brain out.
Here's a comment and a view, though, to encourage the algorithm.
I agree. Arguing with a brick wall would be less frustrating and more productive.
There's actually a rich pastor that's paying for like three flat earthers to go to Antartica prove the 24 hour sun. Professor Dave (another RUclipsr who makes debunk/science videos) told the pastor that it was pointless because they'd either claim the footage was fake, or they weren't actually in Antarctica, or they'll change their view to concede that the 24 hour sun is possible, but that the earth is still flat.
They disregard any proof to maintain this weird belief, all because they misunderstand science and refuse to update their worldview to accommodate new information. Also anti-establishment bias.
@@Shades14Exactly. A brick wall is provable, and more useful.
If they weren't getting money off grifting I'd fully be with you but they unfortunately have a huge influence on people and even in politics even senators
@@Chuck_ELI cant stand when they let money control there output. Do they not have common sense, dignity, open mindedness?
Calling basic scientific literacy "bigotry" is so unbelievably rich....
There are only 2 genders
@@asherael Basically, if you tell them they are wrong, you are a bigot. Also he knows birdman’s race so is trying to trigger him.
And this is why when Birdman talks seriously, he’s past the level anger. Truly like when Spiderman stops talking bubbly smack, this is scary
Bubbly smack lol now I can't get the picture of spider-man smacking people with a bubble attack like pokemon lol
My only thought halfway through this video was "Birdman, stop beating on this man. He's already dead!"
Jokes aside though, it kills me to admit it but videos like this are sorely needed. Well done, bro!
I was like Kylo Ren: "More!...MORE!!!!"
@@dcap79 😂😂😂
If Flat Earthers were merely doubted the Earth was a sphere, they would be fine saying "they aren't making a claim." If they are asserting the Globe is wrong, therefore the Earth is flat ... that is a claim.
Also, no one is afraid of debating a Flat Earthers; people just don't have the energy to deal with bs.
Im in no way a debater and even i can debunk these silly people
What is really incredible is that the exact same arguments were used the previous time flat earth showed up back between 1850 and 1915 or so. The Library of Congress has a nice list of some of those books and pamphlets so you can see just how similar all the arguments are. The books are on the way back machine.
@MrOttopants the previous conspiracy video i saw a comment that said there's a reason we call it a atmosphere and I was laughing so dam hard lol
Not only that: On one side you have evidence, repeatable, testable, observable. On the other hand, you have conspiracies, vaccines are bad, the bible says, I don't understand therefore it's fake...
What kind of a debate is this? Jfc...
@@grantpowell4135 NASA literally live streams the earth from space
I watch it prior to going to bed and keep it on until I wake up and watch for an hour
It's been proven the Earth is a globe they just move the goal post whenever you ask to prove it
the internet has given people the ability to completely humiliate themselves for the world to see, its hilarious and i love it haha
Oh yeah it did.
Remember the LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE VIDEO. Even then i felt the cringe
Honestly, the easiest debunk of flat Earth is that they don't have a model they can show (one that actually can be used to demonstrate things we see on Earth with our actual eyes) and we do (and it works just fine). They can't even agree on basic features like its width, if there's a dome and how high it is, where Polaris is physically located in that model etc. And of course their refusal to go to Antarctica to see something that they supposedly already believe (that Midnight Sun is "impossible") - *FOR FREE* - tells us that they have belief, but not confidence. Even Pastor Dean Ogle rejected it after saying in a debate with fellow pastor Greg Locke (globe Earther) that "Me and you should go there, Greg. If the sun goes all the way around the horizon then the Earth is a globe. if not, then it's flat." He gets a free ticket to do just that and says, "Uh...Um...I have to wash my car that week. Yeah, that's the ticket!"
Because Its a grift. The figureheads of Flat earth know for certain the earth is round but they can’t secede. They depend on their audience who are either not well versed in science, fundamentalist, and those who are mentally unwell or a combination of the three to give their videos views, ad revenue and PayPal.
They have been given mountains of evidence, from laymen to tenured experts. They’ve been at this for almost a decade now and they still can’t come up with a working flat earth model that matches our observations of the world.
They used to have a model they copied off Samuel Rowbotham but they starterd to find out that would get them trapped. So they shifted over to not making any firm stance on anything hoping that if they can't be pinned down they can't be refuted. They went from something to admitting they have nothing. They don't realize why that is a terrible place to go off to.
How can these people even exist? We literally watched a rocket the size of a skyscraper go out to space and come back live. We could all see the globe and curve clear as day.
They claim that's fake. All part of the deception.
Petition to have Th3Birdman create a shirt with all the variants on it say Flerf
Flatzoid isn't the dumbest flerf. That would be somebody in his echo chamber.
It's hilarious how they pull the "You prove earth isn't flat" whenever you ask them to provide evidence that the earth is flat
@Chuck_EL I can easily prove it. I'll just duct tape the guy to the side of a rocket so he can see the proof himself with no way to say it's fake.
Its worse because if what the other comments are saying is true that he knows his stance is false. It makes Jeremys feigning ignorance bit look like childs play. Lol
CC and Pratt are the most stupid ones. Maybe LEO too.
@@Chuck_ELliterally a big "nuh uh!" 😭
Gotta love when birdman uploads his debunking videos, pure entertainment. Great channel bro
Don't forget informative lol
Never needed a notification more 😂 been rewatching the series.... Keep up the good work, Enjoy Japan
Re: No Flat Earthers being scientists.
He does make a point that not everyone can do the same job. BUT if you want to know stuff about farming are you asking a farmer or PE teacher?
The same can be applied to science
Good Example: Einstein was critical of the tectonic plates model, obviously, he wasn't a geologist and his criticisms were shown to be wrong.
@@jbz4788 The problem is he’s using that as an excuse to not have to do the work that he demands of anyone else. He insists that Cavendish was not an experiment but none of them bother to even try to do it they just declare that it doesn’t work. They aren’t willing to live up to their own standards of evidence.
Side note, can people please stop calling a few paragraph essays... (Obviously I'm not referring to the Birdman here)
1. If I sent those set of paragraphs to my old school teacher as an essay, I'd be asked to right a few PAGES
2. Do we really not have the attention span to read a few paragraphs anymore?
people are too used to reading standard length texts, so when they get anything more than a few sentences, their brains break and they forget how to read.
@aetheriox463 Literally, it's frustrating
@@novawolf_gaming i hate when people argue in bad faith
@aetheriox463 Yeah, me too, its frustrating to hear people say this sorta shit
It infuriates me especially when I’m arguing my position and articulating the facts and they just respond with “I’m not reading all of that but you’re still wrong”
But to be fair and balanced there are 5 paragraph essays, it’s what I was first taught when writing essays.
I swear these play out like action movies lmao. and im learning some new stuff. I knew there was stuff that debunked Flat earth but wasn't interested. im fully invested in this series. Thank you Birdman!!!
17:25 - It's like he didn't even acknowledge the quotations for the word 'conversation' and the part where you said "Debates (and let's not kid ourselves, this is what you mean by "conversation")..."
He has to be purposely misrepresenting the point by suggesting you don't know the difference between a conversation and a debate.
Seeing you happy in Japan is amazing!! Thanks for the work!!! Enjoy broski!
I am genuinely curious how this crazy band of lunatics would try and explain how out of the countless number of planets, stars and other celestial objects in our ever expanding universe we just happened to be the only one that is flat?
They tend to disagree with basically the entire field of Astronomy, so at a guess I'd say the majority of them don't believe in exoplanets outside of our solar system. They believe in stars, which are a different thing from the Sun, and they believe in a handful of planets, which are a different thing from the Earth. Basically, if you can't see a thing easily with a $50 telescope you bought from Wal-Mart, it must not be real.
It's like talking to people who don't believe in objective reality. It becomes taxing hearing their reasons lol
They either say that it’s a fallacy to assume that the other planets and the Earth are the same kind of object, or that they’re not material or even physical objects at all (they refer to them as ‘luminaries’)
@@Flaremc26 They either believe we are the centre of the universe or that other planets simply don't exist
@productjoe4069 luminaries sounds like a light based pokemon lol
Starting to think this flat earth mentality is something akin to the lack of object permanence. A certain conceptual blindness to scale or perhaps an inability to imagine or comprehend the celestially massive..
It certainly can't be raw idiocy.. right?
I know they are REALLY not good at thinking in 3 dimensions. They also don’t comprehend vast distances (and deep time) very well either, though I’m fairly certain there’s also a lot of willful ignorance happening with folks like this.
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 I keep forgetting Christianity is tied in with flat earth lol
I'd say the comparison is fair, especially related to their explanations for observations. They will immediately "forget" one thing they said. All their reasoning is ad hoc, so their explanations can't be connected to one another. It reminds me of a quote by Roland Barthes about "professional" wrestling.
"In other words, wrestling is a sum of spectacles, of which no single one is a function: each moment imposes the total knowledge of a passion which rises erect and alone, without ever extending to the crowning moment of a result."
Isn't it really in the end just a lack of understanding on the person's part. That he is indeed wrong. The problem is people not being able to be wrong or mistaken or even try to listen to others ideas because they dislike a person for a,b,c.
I'm reminded of Ryan George's recent video: "If I close my eyes, he's not there anymore."
The irony of a science denier having a youtuber who has a PHD in exercise science in his recommended bar is not lost on me.
Like walking into a kitchen and challenging Gordan Ramsey to a cookoff only after having 6 weeks of experience. Lol
I like how Flatzoid calls your comment rude. Maybe it wasn’t the most gentle scolding, but has he never seen any of Professor Dave’s videos? That’s what I’d call rude if I were a FLERF.
Also, I learned that today is the anniversary of Dragon Ball’s release. HBD to the original shounen! It may not be my favorite series, but as someone with a One Piece pfp, I remove my straw hat for you
Its Dragonballs birthday? Dam salute mr. Toriyama
Average instance of birdman nuking a flat earther from orbit with logic.
Lol he should make a series out of doing that.......oh wait lol
It's the only way to be sure.
Glad you’re enjoying Japan bruv
This ain't the usual Th3Birdman
He's Th3Phenixman and I'm loving it 🤷🏾♂️💪🏾
New Th3Birdman variant
@grantpowell4135 I neeed that 🤣🤣
@@active8335??
@active8335 i swear one day Th3Birdman is gonna hopefully find time in his busy schedule to create the shirt with all his variants on it. Like please take my money
sincerely, thank you for doing these debunking videos.
funny and informative!
enjoy your well deserved vacay!
20:15 you know it’s bad when Birdman uses the word “copium” unironically
Th3Birdman activated lol
Me yesterday: Birdman ain’t post in awhile
Birdman today: By the time this video uploads I’ll be in Japan
😭😭😭😭
33:21 - Typo. #5 says the seasons are the "cause" of the axial tilt and location of the Earth, when I'm pretty sure what you meant to type was the "result"
Subscribed to your channel because, like Professor Dave, you’re getting rid of the fucking nonsense in humanity. Youre doing a good deed G
Calling these people fruitcakes is so mean to us fruitcakes smh
I had my first actual debate with a flat earther yesterday just so I can see what it’s like to argue with one of them. Lemme tell ya I will NOT be doing that again. It felt like my brain was melting listening to that shit.
It's more fun to make them look foolish.... If you actually try to nail things down point by point, you'll end up wasting an hour on every single point just to end at an obstinate "I don't believe that, it makes no sense!"
@ that’s exactly where I ended up. It was sheer madness. I REFUSE to argue with one of they ass ever again
@@tubebammy probably smart... Ya, that's always where it ends up. It's more predictable than a militant vegan debater bringing up cannibalism.
@ please… please don’t bring that shit up lmao. For the love of the PLANET do not bring that up.
@@tubebammy hey, you wanna see a priceless reaction? All I'm saying is, next time one asks if you'd eat ethically sourced human meat.... Say yes. *Chef's kiss*
Hey Birdman! Gotta say, I really applaud your patience in always expressing your points clearly and eloquently.
Also your videos are always just tons of fun!
Hope you have the most tremendous time in Japan probably nerding out, eating quality fish and feeding bowing deer.
Looking forward to more of your vids!
Why are these grifting guys always a charisma void? They're painful to listen to.
And what's worse is they get fans. Why?!
Exactly
Because they don’t have very much experience with actual human interaction. They just happen to be bold enough to start a RUclips channel. Their fans are exactly the same minus the boldness to start a RUclips channel. That’s why their echo chamber exists. They are boring, weak minded people who prey on other boring and weak minded people.
His inability to read - even stuff he supposedly fucking wrote - makes my brain hurt.
Black hole of personality's lol
Respectfully, I love your voice and the tone you had all throughout this video 😳
So glad I came across your videos, cinema sins brought me to you and in all sincerity I think you blow them away, keep it up bro 🫡🫡🫡
Flatzoid called Matt Dillahunty one time. It's Keith from SA (South Africa). Hilarious call. He hasn't called back.
@@MrOttopants yes and Matt couldn’t understand what self naturalism is
@@FlatzoidsPerspectiveHey i got an idea for you. Go. To. Antarctica. Join the Last Experiment. Do it. I dare you. 😂😂😂
@@FlatzoidsPerspective lolol. Call him again, debate bro.
@@lexsavage3311 F11atzoid? lol. Never. He knows that would destroy his "flat earth/not flat earth" grift. It's 100% the one reason that anyone has ever even heard of him.
@@MrOttopants He's been invited to go for free.
He said he would rather stay home and bake cookies while the boys are outside.
What does it say about me that I definitely got distracted by the jangling keys?
13:08 i was looking for my lost keys
Thanks Th3Birdman for finding them for me lmao
I appreciate the dunk session for my lunch break. Thank you Birdman🔥🔥
Flatzoid demonstrated his dishonesty years ago by editing out evidence of Earths curvature from a clip he used on his channel. He played the edited clip, with 11 frames missing, on his channel, oblivious to the fact that the original, unedited version, was still freely available elsewhere.
They don't call him 'Flatzoid 11' for nothing.
He's incapable of honest debate.
Like all of them he will interrupt and talk over you insisting that they control the conversation. Flatz is particularly bad at it. He also loves to “sea lion” repeating the same thing over and over even if you manage to address it they’ll keep throwing at you.
love these videos, please dont stop making em my guy makes my first few hours of work amazing
I don't know if this question has ever been answered, but... why? Why would people hide a 'flat earth' from everyone and pretend its round? It makes no sense. The amount of people you would have to pay to keep quiet, or the amount of editing and the iron first you would have to use to keep the fact that Earth is flat is preposterous.
These people are religious (as in Judeo-Christian religious). They are anti-evolution, they believe Astronomy "isn't a real science" and in general, their thought processes are centered around the bible as the bible implies the Earth is flat.
That is to say, they believe in defending the Flat Earth Hypothesis they are defending their religion.
Flatzoid is a staunch Christian and anti-Evolutionist, as are the morons that appear in his livestreams. He will readily admit this if you ask. He's also a lying piece of shit grifter that is misleading (thankfully a small amount of ) people for monetary gain.
Why does that AI Blanka look like hes about to say "meats back on the menu boys!"
Lotr reference lol?
@grantpowell4135 seriously the AI image is all gobliny!
@richiewesson4051 maybe even orcish lol
SciManDan said it best "you don't debate scientific fact" especially with someone scientifically illiterate enough to be a flerf.
"don't weep for the stupid, you'll be crying all day"
Scimandan came up on my youtube algorithm and I find his videos interesting
@@vinnie666Ahh Alexander Anderson
@@gravemind883 heck yea!
"Since when are we science deniers guys" the moment....you denied science Lmaoo
Almost 2025 and this is still a topic of conversation 🤯
What an amazing thumbnail for this video. Well done!
They claim to be "open minded" and expect you to change your mind... while refusing to be open minded enough to admit they might be wrong. Despite repeatedly being proven wrong. They can't even answer the 1 thing that destroys a lot of conspiracies: why? Why is everyone in charge supposedly "lying" about this? Makes no sense.
Enjoy your travels, no idea why you'd even want to come back here at this point though.
@@solvseus very well said
donning my "MAH FREEDUMS" cap, I would say collective brainwashing, but The CIA couldn't even do personal brainwashing, so no. I got nothing.
@@grantpowell4135 Thank you.
@solvseus of course stitch anytime
51:51 About the comment deletion thing, there is a possibility it was youtube's automated chat moderation, it's been affecting me in a lot of other channels. now I COULD be wrong to assume that considering the topic of the video. But for this thing in particular i'm willing to make the benefit of the doubt as I speak from experience
aaaand i'm a moron, my bad
I know how comments work. I am a content creator, remember?
He deleted my comments. That's why that same comment is still on my channel, and why it's gone on his, multiple times. RUclips does not selectively delete the exact same comment on different channels-- the content creator does that.
@@Th3Birdman 👏good job on your research by the way (which i totally missed when i commented my bad dawg), not a lot of people go through the trouble on finding out the reason why the bot is even targetting the comment
The part where they denied being conspiracy theorists, that's the part that got me.
They probably hear "conspiracy theory" and just translate that as "insane ramblings" since that's what the vast majority of them are.
I wish you a great trip to Japan and a wonderful holiday Birdman.
I'll never understand their logic
Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupitar, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto round... but Earth flat?
Because a good number of flerfs also believe Earth is the center of the universe and everything revolves around us.
Many flerfs either believe we are the centre of the universe or that other planets simply don't exist just like the sun and moon
They belive that planets
Are projections on the dome
Like a hologram.
We sure that AI artwork is Blanka and not a Gremlins reject?
Definitely a rough draft version gremlins creature
Considering some of what I’ve heard come out of Flatzoid’s mouth he’s got some gall to call anyone bigoted
He definitely supported apartheid.
@@jbz4788 since when am I a bigot?
@@andrewleah1983 that’s a lie! Do you feel good having to lie about someone that you don’t even know?
@@FlatzoidsPerspective
Where was the lie?
@@FlatzoidsPerspectiveWatch the video you're replying to, watch your stream back etc etc
I've just realised the irony of using the term 'Conspiracy Theorist' and 'Conspiracy Theory' when talking with people like this because that is the usages of theory they use.
The random courage the cowardly dog impression took me out
One of the best cartoons! Fact
Yesssss! I'm officially here for the beat down.
You can guarantee that Flatzoid will produce a three-hour video (in which he pauses _your_ video every eight seconds to comment on it) as a response, generating more "content" for his channel.
So Lord Jamar and these guys think space works like the maid ship from spaceballs? lol
Any person who references space balls automatically get my thumbs up
@@grantpowell4135 Look out , Flatzoid's gone from suck to blow lol
@@grantpowell4135 love it
I knew Th3Birdman was incredibly smart, I've seen his debunks before. But 141IQ?!! Jesus this man is intelligent!
Would love to see Neil Degrasse Tyson have a conversation with theses guys. But I also believe he wouldn't give them the time.
He already said he wouldn't
@JS_GOTI yeah after I was writing I remember him saying that. I decided to just post.
I swear you could put flat earthers on a plane and give them a one way trip around the globe, and they'd still find some way to try and tell you that the Earth is flat. It's a shame RUclips gives these people a platform.
I Mean, why wouldn't it give them a platform? If they want to VERY Publicly Humiliate themselves, it's their right! Heck they're doing us a favor by Exposing other morons along the way! (Their followers)
RUclips is a public platform. As long as they don't break the rules what are they meant to do? Any clueless buffoon can upload weird shit.
They've been given an actual trip to antarctica and are still talking out their asses. You could send them to SPACE and they'd still be fucking stupid.
Well, yeah. They're convinced the airlines are in cohorts with "globtard" governments, flying specific paths to avoid even seeing the edges of the earth. You could give the flat-earthers an all-expenses-paid trip to Antartica and they would try to convince you that you somehow took them to a sound stage
"Nobody does " that was a bar
And flatzoid is already in the comments.... Rent free.
Trying to get the exposure from Th3Birdmans aura. He still doesn't understand even after watching the video smh 😂
Hey Birdman, is it possible for you to do a video on everything wrong with CinemaSins Interstellar?
"...people debate, you are not the debate..."
Aaaaaaand that right there is why he doesn't want text responses. There are obviously a multitude of reasons why someone could have a hard time reading, so no shade there. HOWEVER, it does go hand in hand with a flat earther lol.
Flatz struggles to understand spoken English - even moreso to understand written English. Plus it doesn't generate the type of content that his Clown Cavalcade appreciates. They have no patience (nor aptitude) for reading. Which is perhaps why they're in the state they are.
Love the vid. Woke up early just because I got the notification you posted. Cant wait for the next vid and enjoy Japan!
MY RUclipsR POSTED AGAIN!!! LONG LIVE BIRDMAN!!!
Birdman is criminally underrated
4:27 As presented on the meme image from left to right:
Joe Budden, Lord Jamar, The Critical Drinker, Jeremy Scott of CinemaSins, Madvocate and Flatzoid.
I’m seeing Mavocate being brought up quite a bit in this video’s comment section, why is that?
@@StormSlayer69 He made a negative review on Deadpool X Wolverine, as well as made a poor take on Spider-Man: Far From Home. Madvocate either missed the whole points of the premises or simply doesn't understand the rules within those two movies.
@@MoskHoteloh, for a sec I thought Sadvocate attacked Birdman again and Birdman was gonna have to smoke him… again
But yeah, that DxW video sucked, Colin. did a good job dunking in him
I love your content. My grandmother always told me, "Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. " Good luck trying to teach these idiots.
22:25 I'm going to be a bit pedantic. "Science realist" is NOT an oxymoron. It's a redundancy.
You're right, but the way he's using it is lol
"Flat Eather doesn't understand basic concepts and language. More at 9."
I don't know how you are able to keep debunking this people, it's just tiring having to explain the same basic thing over and over again to people that will just close their eyes and say "La la la I can't hear you."
you've been missed man. who else is on your hit list next ?
CinemaSins.
@@Th3Birdman 🤩cant wait.
quick question while i catch you : which one is personally more satisfying for you to make a video about, cinemasins, games or idiots that decides to come at you ?
@@barisbal7782all lol
@@Th3Birdmanblade 2 lol jk 😜
I've been watching you for less than 24 hrs and this is what I've been needing. 😂😂😂😂
As a man of faith i don't claim him lol. good work birdman
So jealous about your trip to Japan and I've only seen your channel this once. Have fun!
5:15 he is still proving he has no idea what a hypothesis is. You have to have one to conduct a experiment
okay, i realize im only half an hour into a video about their two-hour stream, so im missing the majority of it, but is there a point to there being five of them there? it's mostly just flatzoid yapping, with four yes men occasionally chiming in to tell him how right he is. the two without webcams barely contribute anything beyond the occasional "yeah," the person on the left appears to be doing something else the entire time, and the other guy took them all on a 3 and a half minute tangent about _just_ the thumbnail of a totally unrelated video. do you _need_ to invite four people to listen to you talk for two hours? it reeks of "desperate for validation"
Enjoy your time in hapan, man, looking forward to see the vlog
Hapan, is a beautiful country (I'm sorry I had to)
@KeeganMakesOpinions i hear hapan is beautiful this time of year lol ( couldnt help but join ) jk
I want to visit myself because I’ve been learning Hapanese on Duolingo 😂
@@billyfarmerii1669 Hapanese language is so majestic😋
Just remember not to kill anyone in hapan it’s considered rude and disrespectful
The series continues!
Debunking Flat Earthers with only a couple of words:
Hitchens Razor
Look it up and you’ll see what I’m talking about
Unfortunately, Brandolini's law cancels it out.
Th3Birdman: “You’re not a bear. You’re not even Winnie the Pooh.”
Me, adding something meaningless to the conversation: “You’re a stuffed animal.”
Also Sheol is the name of the Hebrew underworld that is more like a waiting room of sorts for souls when they’re down there.
What's for dinner?
Heard Birdman was cooking??😂
The fact I got an IQ test ad while watching this is EVERYTHING XD
90% of Flatzoid's subs and viewers are Globe believers, just there to mock and laugh. Most of the Flat Earth fraternity hate Him One of the best responses to him I have seen look forward to part 2
Lord Jamar, a part of Wu-tang? He must be confusing Jamar with Killa Priest. Wtf?!? Love the video.
Class Act was a good movie! Enjoy Japan as usual. Looking forward to your next vlog. 😊
Human Smegma Nugget 🤣🤣
That's an awesome description
That one was pretty revolting 😅
OK, check, don't HATE on putting the peanut butter and jelly on the outside of a sandwich. Ok, I never tried it, but I bet it is still really good. Just make sure you use white bread, son.
Not gonna lie, that image did look pretty tasty lol
@Th3Birdman hahahaha
Dude. I have known children with this level of comprehension and short term memory.
They are/were genuinely aggrivating to deal with. I cannot imagine if they never grew past that (some haven't but like, i don't bother now)
Having the complete inability to cache a statement and then understand it as context for a following statement is... Just... The worst.
Like, this argument is effectively:
"You can't have a cookie right now. If you do your homework before 5:00, then ill let you have a treat."
"That doesn't make sense! You said I couldn't have a cookie, but then said I could have a treat??? Clearly you are just delusional"
This is the level of talking in circles involved, but it's required to prop up a full on worldview...
Greetings Mr. Th3Birdman! first time seeing one of your vids, blame the YT algorithm. This was hysterical. FLERFs are the worst.... okay... dumbest? nope, alright, bottom 1% in all categories.
i have subscribed and will be going back and watching your vids. FYI, Sir, i hit the subscribe button when you called him a, "human smegma nugget". i laughed so hard i snarffed my water all over my keyboard. totally worth it.
and yup, he did poke the bear and woke him up. The 5 horsemen of FLERF moron apocalypses.
If your new then your gonna really like Th3Birdman bud
41:56 full circle moment. you made those $20 back EASY 😂
i used to be a flat earther
then i turned 5
How many frames did flatzoid delete from any of your footage he used?
At least 11
But he's a videographer lol