I been struggling with this for a while now. I myself don't know if I was truly saved in the first place. I think part of it is that I got caught up in false teachings that run rampant today. And I didn't grow up in Christian home. I left the Church and Jesus and went back to drinking ect. But lately have been watching and learning on RUclips about false Prophets and teachings. Thank you for your video. Please pray for me.
Instead of concentrating on false teachings and false prophets, I urge you to try concentrating on the words of God. When you believe in Christ and commit to him that you will try and not sin then you are saved. But if you throw it to the side and go down a path of sin and sinful thinking that it doesn't matter I will just continue living my life the way I want and not the way God wants me to, then you will never be saved. For then you are committing yourself to sin and not God.
On youtube type Bryan Wolfmueller Has American Christianity failed? He is a Confessional (Conservative) Lutheran Pastor, and in that talk, he discusses many heresies rampant today, and the Gospel. He has a book on amazon of that title.
A lot of self righteous people in the world, believe and you’ll be granted the gift of faith given to humans not demons. Take that faith in prayer to the Father through Christ. Glorify God daily in a sincere praise and worship ask for His help in developing the fruit of the Spirit. Don’t make grace difficult God didn’t, 1 Corinthians 15:1-5👑 Luke 10:27💝
Ok, seriously. THANK YOU. This is a beyond huge topic going on in our family right now and I appreciate you guys addressing this! I've been seeking counsel left and right. God bless you both!
Oh, and to add.....I'm clicking your video right before I'm about to go pick this family member up from the airport to come stay with us for a week! How great is our God?
Just finishing up the video. Awesome job you guys. Desi- went through the same things with some of my girlfriends shortly after the Lord saved me. It's hard, but the Spirit of God compels you to lovingly share the true gospel! Zack- you must've dealt with this a lot because your acting out of the unbelievers response is exactly how this family member responded when I brought it up. So I guess the next question is this....how do you move forward if the family member leaves it at "I don't want to talk about this anymore to preserve this relationship" .......this family member is a parent of mine and grandparent of our kiddos. I know you guys are so busy, but a follow-up video addressing how to move forward after that hard convo when it doesnt go well, would be so incredibly helpful. Thanks in advance- appreciate you both!
@@ourwholesomehome4967 Hi my angel, I'm no expert, but I'd say as long as you said your peace - keep it there - in peace with your family member, lead by example and trust in the seed you planted? Hope that helps give you some piece of mind -it aint up to you ... God calls us... anywho, much love and strength from our Lord. -I did pray for you guys btw. In the same boat, but with my most wonderful, 'Christian' horoscope reading etc... mother.
@@jadecarstens6676 I’ll pray for you too sister. Thank you for your encouragement and advice. The Lord did end up opening up a great conversation the day before the family member left.
The Bible doesn’t say we can’t see a persons heart but it does say to judge the fruit, and out of the heart the mouth speaks. And it also says the heart is deceitful and desperately wicked who can know it.
@@AnonHeirs it is written to the church of Corinth. Paul is talking about speaking plain to those of immaturity and then speaking wisdom among the mature. He came speaking Christ crucified and as they grew spiritually then he spoke the hidden mysteries revealed to them by the Holy Spirit. He is saying no one knows the things of God, only the Spirit of God. And he goes on to tell the church that the natural cannot receive what is spiritual.
This was so helpful, I have family members and friends that are unbelievers and some that say they believe but there are no fruits no scripture reading. I share the simple gospel of Jesus Christ, how to be born again. I answer questions scripturally the best i can with Holy Spirit leading. And leave the rest in Gods hands. God calls us, I pray they hear.
it is never the right time to bring up the topic of ending abortion I have found. Yet it has to be brought up. I consider the amount of wasted time hours days years that I had the opportunity for this and other important christian responsibilities, I am now almost spewing it like I have terets. Not the best approach either. Thank you for being so precise in your explanation. I think it is a practice, the mother of skill is repetition. Just make sure it is the correct information we (I ) am sharing. Keep up the great work. love you both
Memorize key scriptures, key questions revealing their belief about god sin judgment their own moral goodness and how to ask humbly sincerely and with compassion empathy. Practice just asking questions at first. Make Christ your suprime desire over each rhought and sinful heart want. Lord first.
So what do you with 1st Corinthians 3 then? It almost certainly says there will be believers that have little or zero works and still go into the Kingdom without "rewards". You should have "fruit" but that does not mean you are or are not saved. Thoughts?
What about family members that are fired up about God, but “their god” is telling them that Paul is the means Satan enters the Church. They constantly read the Bible, talk about God, but I question their salvation. I am finding it hard to have any patience for people like this that want me to join their way of thinking.
@@claytonjackson5709 there is a big emphasis on the OT, but Jesus is still an authority. She was first a type of Penecostal which has morphed into a Holy Spirit, selfish, Tora, demanding “Christian” that is now saying reincarnation is taught in the Bible. She wants me to debate this with her. I am just finding it hard to have any patience for this, especially since she is so adamant to talk to me about it even after many attempts to get her to stop.
@@claytonjackson5709 I love talking about the Bible, it is very precious to me. I told her back in 2000 that the Bible trumps anything the “Holy Spirit” tells you especially if the inspiration contradicts it. Now I am finding that concepts like reincarnation have bunny trailed out of any foundational common ground, we may have had, in how we look at the Bible. Sometimes I think she thinks that if she wins me over it would cement her concepts as truth. In the last few years I have started using her own logic against her to bring out the heresy, but she looks at the Bible/Holy Spirit so differently that common scriptures always get filtered through her bias.
Here's the link to the Eastern Orthodox Christian discord server: discord.gg/pwuHwTtZhu We had 800 members 1.5 years ago now we have 6000 members made up of Orthodox clergy and Orthodox laymen, but also many enquirers made up of protestants, evangelicals, atheists, muslims, roman catholics, pagans, etc. Come join us for weekly debates, endless pdf's on orthodox theology, logic, the formation of the cannon of scripture, the history of the church etc. All welcome. People are being converted and baptised and chrismated every week by the grace of God and thanks to the efforts of the members in the server.
I don’t have to see your heart I can look at your life. The Bible says to test yourself 2 Corinthians 13:5. I share the Gospel because I know it is the power of God for salvation.
Zack and Desi, wouldn’t you agree that if they remain in unrepentant arrogant sin after trying to reach them multiple times that you should not fellowship with them?
Isaiah 6 talks about that some want, the Harding of the heart, as Jesus sends Isaiah back to the people...as for the fellowship issue , the word fellowship has been made into a religious connotation , a distinction has to made there..just dont burn your bridges, change the relationship dynamic maybe..
@@enoch3874 I appreciate your heart, but the context of a prophet being sent back to a people chosen by God in the Old Covenant is not necessarily a 1:1 application to someone who is a false convert, bearing the name of brother and going on in bold, unrepentant sin. 1 Corinthians 5 sheds some light. Not trying to start a fight. I just wanted to get the show hosts’ take on this situation.
@@jenniferpaul575 well...to bad, ya got fight your hands! Lol ...mmm lets see now, I'm just think typing here, I know is not traditional to think what I'm suggesting but maybe if one didn't make dichotomy but treated both cases as the same..I do wonder...because we do prescribe the same things in both cases right?...a mix of both counsel and apologetic Same issues, I think
Test yourself against the word of God. “By their fruits you shall know them”. If you bear no fruit then Christ is not your Lord. If you have faith in Him and bare fruit, then be assured your faith is real
People like to pretend like understanding scripture is hard but it's really not. If you keep saying "well, scripture is just so cryptic, I can't possibly know what to do, so I'm going to do the thing I always intended to do anyway", that might be a sign that you're faking it.
It’s beyond when Christians compare devil’s Democratic and Republican, it’s only one system. Vote for Christ and His Kingdom only we’re called for the GREAT Commission not to vote in this system. The people didn’t vote in the Bible. Matthew 28:19“Therefore go and make disciplesd of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit” 1 John 5:19“We know that we are of God, and that the whole world is under the power of the evil
Great content but I wish these hosts would speak like they're on a podcast and not a private conversation. Sit up straight, look at the camera and project your voices. Have a cup of coffee too and wake up. Just some constructive criticism because I love your ministry. Thank you for all you do.
I wonder if you have to have a positive relationship, or some kind of relationship, in order to broach this subject with a family member. My family members who I suspect are not saved have already rejected me, don't communicate, consider me a non-person.
Psalms83:18ASV"18That they may know that thou alone, whose name is JEHOVAH, Art the Most High over all the earth." Note please there is but one named JEHOVAH. Note also that this one is the MOST HIGH. Thus if ones God is associated with multiple co'equals (e.g the Trinitarian Jesus). He is not the Lord JEHOVAH.
It’s beyond when Christians compare devil’s Democratic and Republican, it’s only one system. Vote for Christ and His kingdom only. 1 John 5:19 “We know that we are of God, and that the whole world is under the power of the evil one”
“Convert” no. False prophets, wolves, goats, tares, sinners-nonbelievers yes not the word “convert” unless from another nonChristian religion. Sanctification is a process. We can assess but we still do not know the conditions of a person’s heart only God knows. Everyone must examine themselves in the faith. Amen great word glory to Christ our LORD and Savior. 1 Corinthians 15:2-5 👑 “By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain. For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that He was buried, that He was raised” Matthew 7:15-17 “Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. By their fruit (YOU) will recognize them. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
John 6 Jesus the Bread of Life …52At this, the Jews began to argue among themselves, “How can this man give us His flesh to eat?” 53So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I tell you, unless you eat the flesh and drink the blood of the Son of Man, you have no life in you. 54Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day The verse Jesus stressed on even though it caused many of his disciples to leave🙏
Seems legalistic and judgmental and if you disagree your also being hypocrites when you defend your sin of judgement on if other christians are saved or not. Just saying
The very verse Jesus will say to the wolves in sheep clothing which started ur churches.. those who don’t gather with me scatters 🙏 Scattering that started 500 years back is now reached over 30000🙏
Not really. They think that Lutherans, Baptists, Presbyterians, Reformed, Methodists, and Pentecostals have the gospel and are true Christians. The dividing line is the gospel.
@@No_auto_toon "Not really. They think that Lutherans, Baptists, Presbyterians, Reformed, Methodists, and Pentecostals have the gospel and are true Christians. The dividing line is the gospel." and every Christian is sure that they and they alone know the "right" way to interpret the "gospel". funny how not one Christian can show that their version is the one that gets the God seal of approval. Amongst all of those sects listed, they all can't agree on free will and predestination, how baptism is done or works, etc.
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I been struggling with this for a while now. I myself don't know if I was truly saved in the first place. I think part of it is that I got caught up in false teachings that run rampant today. And I didn't grow up in Christian home. I left the Church and Jesus and went back to drinking ect. But lately have been watching and learning on RUclips about false Prophets and teachings. Thank you for your video. Please pray for me.
Don’t be discouraged!
Instead of concentrating on false teachings and false prophets, I urge you to try concentrating on the words of God. When you believe in Christ and commit to him that you will try and not sin then you are saved. But if you throw it to the side and go down a path of sin and sinful thinking that it doesn't matter I will just continue living my life the way I want and not the way God wants me to, then you will never be saved. For then you are committing yourself to sin and not God.
Start reading the Bible
On youtube type
Bryan Wolfmueller Has American Christianity failed?
He is a Confessional (Conservative) Lutheran Pastor, and in that talk, he discusses many heresies rampant today, and the Gospel.
He has a book on amazon of that title.
A lot of self righteous people in the world, believe and you’ll be granted the gift of faith given to humans not demons. Take that faith in prayer to the Father through Christ. Glorify God daily in a sincere praise and worship ask for His help in developing the fruit of the Spirit. Don’t make grace difficult God didn’t,
1 Corinthians 15:1-5👑
Luke 10:27💝
Ok, seriously. THANK YOU. This is a beyond huge topic going on in our family right now and I appreciate you guys addressing this! I've been seeking counsel left and right. God bless you both!
Oh, and to add.....I'm clicking your video right before I'm about to go pick this family member up from the airport to come stay with us for a week! How great is our God?
Just finishing up the video. Awesome job you guys. Desi- went through the same things with some of my girlfriends shortly after the Lord saved me. It's hard, but the Spirit of God compels you to lovingly share the true gospel! Zack- you must've dealt with this a lot because your acting out of the unbelievers response is exactly how this family member responded when I brought it up. So I guess the next question is this....how do you move forward if the family member leaves it at "I don't want to talk about this anymore to preserve this relationship" .......this family member is a parent of mine and grandparent of our kiddos. I know you guys are so busy, but a follow-up video addressing how to move forward after that hard convo when it doesnt go well, would be so incredibly helpful. Thanks in advance- appreciate you both!
@@ourwholesomehome4967 Hi my angel, I'm no expert, but I'd say as long as you said your peace - keep it there - in peace with your family member, lead by example and trust in the seed you planted? Hope that helps give you some piece of mind -it aint up to you ... God calls us... anywho, much love and strength from our Lord. -I did pray for you guys btw. In the same boat, but with my most wonderful, 'Christian' horoscope reading etc... mother.
@@jadecarstens6676 I’ll pray for you too sister. Thank you for your encouragement and advice.
The Lord did end up opening up a great conversation the day before the family member left.
That's like German Christians in the 40s saying, "it's not my thing, my calling, to save those Jews and provide shelter for them."
@@underOS10 run that by us again?
Its about the inner life. Inner life with God. Taking up the cross: denying our self will. Doing Gods will
And faith without works is dead. Or as I like to say just head knowledge not expressed through acts of love.
But yes, I completely agree with you, although what you listed is half of the Christian life. In other words, a life of service to others.
The Bible doesn’t say we can’t see a persons heart but it does say to judge the fruit, and out of the heart the mouth speaks. And it also says the heart is deceitful and desperately wicked who can know it.
How do you interpret 1 Corinthians 2:11?
@@AnonHeirs it is written to the church of Corinth. Paul is talking about speaking plain to those of immaturity and then speaking wisdom among the mature. He came speaking Christ crucified and as they grew spiritually then he spoke the hidden mysteries revealed to them by the Holy Spirit. He is saying no one knows the things of God, only the Spirit of God. And he goes on to tell the church that the natural cannot receive what is spiritual.
this topic is incredibly relevant to me right now. thank you brothers and sisters❤️
41:00 This is where they finally start talking about how to witness to false converts in your life.
This was so helpful, I have family members and friends that are unbelievers and some that say they believe but there are no fruits no scripture reading. I share the simple gospel of Jesus Christ, how to be born again. I answer questions scripturally the best i can with Holy Spirit leading. And leave the rest in Gods hands. God calls us, I pray they hear.
Great stuff! Thank you for what you do for the Kingdom of God, may His will be done here on earth as it surely is done in heaven.
it is never the right time to bring up the topic of ending abortion I have found. Yet it has to be brought up. I consider the amount of wasted time hours days years that I had the opportunity for this and other important christian responsibilities, I am now almost spewing it like I have terets. Not the best approach either. Thank you for being so precise in your explanation. I think it is a practice, the mother of skill is repetition. Just make sure it is the correct information we (I ) am sharing. Keep up the great work. love you both
Let God be true and every man a liar.
Thx for this! Very helpful.
Wow, i needed this video.
We are not all equipped to do the same thing. Everyone according to his talents.
I’m not judging, I’m fruit inspecting
lol....
Great edifying message
Also you look like zakk wylde
Memorize key scriptures, key questions revealing their belief about god sin judgment their own moral goodness and how to ask humbly sincerely and with compassion empathy. Practice just asking questions at first. Make Christ your suprime desire over each rhought and sinful heart want. Lord first.
The problem I see is that people that preach don’t listen.
So what do you with 1st Corinthians 3 then? It almost certainly says there will be believers that have little or zero works and still go into the Kingdom without "rewards". You should have "fruit" but that does not mean you are or are not saved. Thoughts?
What about family members that are fired up about God, but “their god” is telling them that Paul is the means Satan enters the Church. They constantly read the Bible, talk about God, but I question their salvation. I am finding it hard to have any patience for people like this that want me to join their way of thinking.
That family member I would say is not a Christian for denying scripture. I’m assuming they follow the “Torah” movement which is a different gospel.
@@claytonjackson5709 there is a big emphasis on the OT, but Jesus is still an authority. She was first a type of Penecostal which has morphed into a Holy Spirit, selfish, Tora, demanding “Christian” that is now saying reincarnation is taught in the Bible. She wants me to debate this with her. I am just finding it hard to have any patience for this, especially since she is so adamant to talk to me about it even after many attempts to get her to stop.
@@thewhatsup yeah I would try and steer the conversation to the true gospel always and the lordship of Jesus.
@@claytonjackson5709 I love talking about the Bible, it is very precious to me.
I told her back in 2000 that the Bible trumps anything the “Holy Spirit” tells you especially if the inspiration contradicts it. Now I am finding that concepts like reincarnation have bunny trailed out of any foundational common ground, we may have had, in how we look at the Bible. Sometimes I think she thinks that if she wins me over it would cement her concepts as truth. In the last few years I have started using her own logic against her to bring out the heresy, but she looks at the Bible/Holy Spirit so differently that common scriptures always get filtered through her bias.
@@thewhatsup have you by chance read the book called Tactics by Gregory Koukl? If not, I think this would help you immensely.
Here's the link to the Eastern Orthodox Christian discord server:
discord.gg/pwuHwTtZhu
We had 800 members 1.5 years ago now we have 6000 members made up of Orthodox clergy and Orthodox laymen, but also many enquirers made up of protestants, evangelicals, atheists, muslims, roman catholics, pagans, etc. Come join us for weekly debates, endless pdf's on orthodox theology, logic, the formation of the cannon of scripture, the history of the church etc. All welcome. People are being converted and baptised and chrismated every week by the grace of God and thanks to the efforts of the members in the server.
Thank you. I would love to talk to someone about this.
We are vessels
I don’t have to see your heart I can look at your life. The Bible says to test yourself 2 Corinthians 13:5. I share the Gospel because I know it is the power of God for salvation.
Zack and Desi, wouldn’t you agree that if they remain in unrepentant arrogant sin after trying to reach them multiple times that you should not fellowship with them?
Isaiah 6 talks about that some want, the Harding of the heart, as Jesus sends Isaiah back to the people...as for the fellowship issue , the word fellowship has been made into a religious connotation , a distinction has to made there..just dont burn your bridges, change the relationship dynamic maybe..
@@enoch3874 I appreciate your heart, but the context of a prophet being sent back to a people chosen by God in the Old Covenant is not necessarily a 1:1 application to someone who is a false convert, bearing the name of brother and going on in bold, unrepentant sin. 1 Corinthians 5 sheds some light. Not trying to start a fight. I just wanted to get the show hosts’ take on this situation.
@@jenniferpaul575 well...to bad, ya got fight your hands! Lol
...mmm lets see now, I'm just think typing here, I know is not traditional to think what I'm suggesting but maybe if one didn't make dichotomy but treated both cases as the same..I do wonder...because we do prescribe the same things in both cases right?...a mix of both counsel and apologetic
Same issues, I think
@@enoch3874 That’s the tricky part. Both cases do not seem to be treated the same if you look at the passage in 1 Corinthians.
And how do you know you are not one of them?
Test yourself against the word of God. “By their fruits you shall know them”. If you bear no fruit then Christ is not your Lord. If you have faith in Him and bare fruit, then be assured your faith is real
@@benjaminjames5157 So, if I lie, I am not of him.
People like to pretend like understanding scripture is hard but it's really not. If you keep saying "well, scripture is just so cryptic, I can't possibly know what to do, so I'm going to do the thing I always intended to do anyway", that might be a sign that you're faking it.
It’s beyond when Christians compare devil’s Democratic and Republican, it’s only one system. Vote for Christ and His Kingdom only we’re called for the GREAT Commission not to vote in this system. The people didn’t vote in the Bible.
Matthew 28:19“Therefore go and make disciplesd of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit”
1 John 5:19“We know that we are of God, and that the whole world is under the power of the evil
Great content but I wish these hosts would speak like they're on a podcast and not a private conversation. Sit up straight, look at the camera and project your voices. Have a cup of coffee too and wake up. Just some constructive criticism because I love your ministry. Thank you for all you do.
I wonder if you have to have a positive relationship, or some kind of relationship, in order to broach this subject with a family member. My family members who I suspect are not saved have already rejected me, don't communicate, consider me a non-person.
I would say what is your thing?
Psalms83:18ASV"18That they may know that thou alone, whose name is JEHOVAH, Art the Most High over all the earth." Note please there is but one named JEHOVAH. Note also that this one is the MOST HIGH. Thus if ones God is associated with multiple co'equals (e.g the Trinitarian Jesus). He is not the Lord JEHOVAH.
It’s beyond when Christians compare devil’s Democratic and Republican, it’s only one system. Vote for Christ and His kingdom only.
1 John 5:19
“We know that we are of God, and that the whole world is under the power of the evil one”
Yeah, but the republican party is lesser of the two evils. I see what your saying though.
“Convert” no. False prophets, wolves, goats, tares, sinners-nonbelievers yes not the word “convert” unless from another nonChristian religion. Sanctification is a process. We can assess but we still do not know the conditions of a person’s heart only God knows. Everyone must examine themselves in the faith. Amen great word glory to Christ our LORD and Savior.
1 Corinthians 15:2-5 👑
“By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain. For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that He was buried, that He was raised”
Matthew 7:15-17 “Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. By their fruit (YOU) will recognize them. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
John 6
Jesus the Bread of Life
…52At this, the Jews began to argue among themselves, “How can this man give us His flesh to eat?” 53So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I tell you, unless you eat the flesh and drink the blood of the Son of Man, you have no life in you. 54Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day
The verse Jesus stressed on even though it caused many of his disciples to leave🙏
ruclips.net/video/soCkftBBsBo/видео.html
Talk about aliens and the illuminati, that always attracts sane people.
Aye, it's a alien lol
Russians too.. dont forget to blame the Russians... And Trump.
also, dont forget to praise the mushy brained child-sniffin' mummy..
@@enoch3874 ayyy lmao
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I wish these hosts had passion. This is an important topic but this was extremely hard to watch. They looked bored out of their minds.
Personality
Seems legalistic and judgmental and if you disagree your also being hypocrites when you defend your sin of judgement on if other christians are saved or not. Just saying
The very verse Jesus will say to the wolves in sheep clothing which started ur churches.. those who don’t gather with me scatters 🙏
Scattering that started 500 years back is now reached over 30000🙏
and yet again, Christians thinking other Christians, insisting that only their version is the right one.
Not really. They think that Lutherans, Baptists, Presbyterians, Reformed, Methodists, and Pentecostals have the gospel and are true Christians. The dividing line is the gospel.
@@No_auto_toon "Not really. They think that Lutherans, Baptists, Presbyterians, Reformed, Methodists, and Pentecostals have the gospel and are true Christians. The dividing line is the gospel."
and every Christian is sure that they and they alone know the "right" way to interpret the "gospel". funny how not one Christian can show that their version is the one that gets the God seal of approval. Amongst all of those sects listed, they all can't agree on free will and predestination, how baptism is done or works, etc.