"The case is similar to the double slaying of a mother and daughter a year later in neighboring Washington state. Both sets of victims were slain in rural settings on public lands, and in both cases the victims' vehicles were left at the scene, the Lane County Sheriff's Office said." There's been a problem in these places for some time, I remember as a kid and I'm in my 50's now. People have a real false sense of security when in the PNW wilderness. You take good care, and thank you for remembering all these people. You covered my childhood cohort, who I thought NO ONE remembered (who went missing very early 80's when we were growing up on the edge of the Olympic National Forest). I was very grateful
The forests of Oregon have been my home for the last 40-some years (with frequent trips to the forests of Washington). I feel safer in the forest than I do in the cities or towns, because it's just a matter of numbers; fewer people, fewer people with bad intentions. Random murders in the wilderness are definitely rare, compared to random murders in densely populated areas. But there are, unfortunately, evil people in the world, and there are really no places that are truly safe from them. I don't know if murders of campers are more common in PNW public lands versus public lands in other parts of the United States, but it's certainly a very sobering thing to think about.
I hike in Lane county all of the time. I've seen some sketchy people when I've been mushroom hunting & found abandoned camping in the middle of BFE out of cell phone service and waaaay out in the woods. I prefer to hike where most people aren't. It's good to have another or several people when foraging valuable things but there are some odd people out there. I also wouldn't county on lane county sherriffs office to rescue you or even help at all. They're one of the few counties that are STILL not online with most of their court documents....... STILL. I've been able to go on the clerk of courts office for smaller cities since the 1990's, not here. That make a LOT of thing go un noticed or unknown by the public. When I was in search & rescue they only look 100 yards or less from most roads or paths, if you're further out than that and or hard to see you may never be found if in trouble. It's smart to be safe & smart in the PNW wilderness but never afraid. JM2C.
I'm in the middle of the video and I'm in awe of the term "super hunter". I never heard of this term before. Maybe we should use the term "psycho hunter" instead?
Man, I've had to rewatch this one, just to take it ALL in. Unbelievable how an EVIL lunatic can blindly take away these 2 sweethearts who were minding their own business. The dog too!? 😞😞😞😞 Heartbreaking case. I hope it gets solved!! It's just not right! I've NEVER heard the term Super Hunter... that's a new one.
My boyfriend and I were attacked in the Nantahala forest by some local people and it was terrifying. They tried to kill us, and just because of a fluke we got away, but one of them had bitten off my boyfriends ear, and was yelling to another person to go get the knife so that they could stab us to death, and I managed to slip away, and that gave my boyfriend an opportunity to run down into the valley and escape that guy. So we survived. They were later, caught and charged with attempted murder and convicted.
As a person who often goes camping in the forest, this is my greatest fear. I have seen creepy people in filthy camps back in the middle of nowhere, and was lucky to spot them first and turn around. I am constantly alert and armed with bear spray, hunting knife and .45 pistol, but if some evil psychopath creeps up to your tent in the middle of the night there isn't a hell of a lot you can do. For that reason I sometimes pitch my tent and sleep concealed nearby. If I hear a twig snap I want to be ready.
I can't see where going camping and having to deal with what you described as being worth it! So you go camping always in fear to the point you don't even sleep in your tent for fear someone may attack you? Yea that seems so relaxing and worth it! 😏
@@journeysalkebulan Or I can sit home on my couch and do nothing. Let me explain something, I love being outside, and I will not let the existence of Human rats take that away from me. I am capable, armed and I am not a coward. It's a little game I play, and I make the rules.
@@journeysalkebulan you must have never been dry camping 😮 we are actually inn more danger here in any of our major cities … people are the real danger and they seem to be everywhere
Thank you Brian. I always enjoy your stories. Twenty years ago I frequently hiked alone in the Santa Cruz mountains for hours. I would not do that today. It’s no longer safe.
Either that, or a boatload of these so-called Mysteries are completely fabricated. So that we have a situation going on like in the movie The village. The so-called authorities convince the people there are scary things in the woods and that they are only safe under care in the village. Our prison cities are that village.
So a couple of thoughts and suggestions to anyone reading this from a former law enforcement officer and now private investigator... #1 - Most if not all homicides are NOT random. Yes, they happen but more often then not the suspect(s) and victim(s) new each other, came in contact with each other, saw each other, etc. I would bet money that the killer(s) most likely one suspect was seen by the victims in this case. Perhaps, at some point while they were setting up or making their way into the park the suspect observed the victims. This leads me to my suggestion for people when they go into the forest or the wild. Bring a firearm and wear it. Dont leave it in your car or tent. Conceal it if you have to, but have it on you. Keep your head on a swivel. Most likely these victims were being watched by the suspect and close enough that if these people had been paying attention they would have noticed him. The more aware you are of your surroundings at all times the better chance of you picking up on the sometimes subtle clues that something isnt right. Far too often people have a false sense of security when they are camping that nothing will happen and that the place is full of happy, law abiding people enjoying the outdoors. This is false. There are too many people that go missing and also murdered in our national forests. You just dont hear about it. #2 - Get yourself a $100 trail camera with a large memory SD card and put it in a place that will best observe you and your campsite. Make sure it is concealed enough that no one can see it. This will do two things. First it will let you know if anyone is stalking your campsite while you are on a hike or away getting food or at night when you are sleeping. Second, if something should happen where you are the victim of a crime it will give the authorities the best chance at finding the suspect (s) and yes law enforcement will find the camera in the event that you go missing or are killed. #3 - Make sure you have a GPS emergency locator on you at all times. This will allow you to summon rescue personnel if you are injured or lost. It will also act as an emergency panic button if you should come in contact with someone who is robbing you or stealing your car without you having to risk using your cell phone and you may not have service anyway. Very few people have gone missing when they had a GPS Emergency locator. We are seeing more and more cartel related crime and homicides in our national parks from the cartels growing marijuana in our parks. They will also target you for a specific vehicle you are driving. They prefer trucks and SUV's. They will kill you for your car and identification. When I heard this case mention the license plates missing that is the first thing I thought of was a cartel related homicide. They also have the M.O. of killing everyone including your pets. #3 - If you go camping go with a crowd. The more people the less likely a perpetrator is going to target you. If you cant bring people with you, seek out locations close to other campers. Within a 100 yard radius. These tips will help you stay safe in the outdoors. Its true that the majority of the you are safe in these areas. However, there are times when the criminal element is out there with you. Dont make it easy for them. Dont be a target. Keep your head on a swivel. If something doesn't look right it probably isnt. Trust those gut instincts!
@@Ryanboy2020 What trail cam would u recommend? I have a property that i own. Everytime i go there someone has propped branches (broken off ones) up into the live branches so they fall as you walk or mow under them. Thanks!
@@michele21auntiem There are a multitude of different trail cameras or surveillance systems that I could recommend. Without knowing your budget the list would be endless. In your situation I would recommend a camera that has it's own wifi and will alert you to when someone has breached the area you have set it up in and will start recording and send that information to your cell phone. These can be a little pricey but it gives you the best chance of catching the person and knowing exactly when they are there. If that's not important you can get a less expensive camera that will simply record whatever comes into the field of view and then it will be up to you to check it on a regular basis to see if it caught a image or recorded anything. It all depends on how much you want to spend and if you want to know right away if someone has been in the area.
We would love for you to visit our forests As a helpful hint: Willamette is pronounced, will- am- it. Have a wonderful day and we love your channel as it is of great service to society.
That's a human being 👀 that speck!? WOW, we really are just like grains of sand or tiny ants. I read yesterday "WHEN SOMEONE GOES MISSING, EVERYONE'S LOOKING FOR THAT PERSON, BUT OTHERWISE WE'RE INVISIBLE TO EACH OTHER." That's sad to me but so true 😞 Great video Bryan. You're on top of your work and the research is much appreciated.
This is really sad. There are too many lunatics out there. I wouldn't go out in the middle of nowhere. It might be rare, but I'm not taking any chances. Thanks Brian for sharing this case. RIP Jeanette, Steven and Caesar. I hope the families will get answers for closure. Such a nice couple. My heart is breaking for them. So senseless.😢
Thank you for acknowledging Caesar the dog, and including his name at the end. He was a family member, as all pets are, and his life was just as valuable and important. 🐶💔🙏
Every evening when I watch videos I scroll down to see what new stories you have covered. It's good to see one from my home state of oregon. Even though it horrible what happened to them. Thanks Bryan.
Ive seen authorities play petty games instead of help a victim and their family. Ive seen Cops laugh at moms death. You really cant trust anything anymore.
Spotting a person against a dynamic landscape is incredibly hard. We look for movement and color, both of which aren't visible at great distance. ALWAYS CARRY A GPS BEACON AND A SIGNAL MIRROR IN YOUR EQUIPMENT. The mirror should be useful in an emergency if you've hopefully already drawn them to you with your beacon. To hike those trails and distances I don't grasp how anyone decides the emergency beacon is not necessary.
Pronunciation of Oregon was great! Willamette is Will a (like in mad) mit, emphasis on the a. Thanks for sharing this story I’ve never heard from my state.
In my experience gunshots aren't heard that far away in the Oregon brush. and you really can't tell the direction most of the time. this is forest, not mountains and usually when you're in it you can hardly see more than fifty or a hundred feet when you're off trail. that's why so many people who get lost stay lost. now there is this Super Hunter thing. have wondered about all of the Missing 411 cases and that it might be a serial killer in a lot of the puzzling cases. Mount Rainier seems to have a bunch of vanished into thin air cases lately. also in southern calif.
Do not be put off hiking and camping because of this, as the odds of this happening are almost zero, statistically you are WAY more likely to die in a road accident on the way to or from your destination. Stay vigilant, stay safe!
It isn't just bad acts. We lost two tourists whose car landed in a tree on a steep mountainside, but the woods were so dense the cops missed them until an unnecessarily slow ordeal. Sometimes things happen. The bigger our population the more will happen.
Per Bryan’s opening shot of the NPS/helo looking at the “speck” (victim). Proper signaling tools are some of the easiest & for the most part, compact, tools that adventurers should carry: -Orion 12g flares and gun require no license & are sold OTC in the US. $75 is a great price but $90 is standard -Amazon sells lasers that are the size of a tactical pen for $20. Aside from a mirror & whistle they’re an unbeatable option for the price, weight & volume -as mentioned an SOL signal mirror and LOUD whistle are must-carry’s -chem lights when tied to a few feet of cordage (even a shoelace) and whipped rapidly in a 360 create a “saw”. It’s unmistakable especially at night -survival blankets that are neon orange on one side & mylar reflective on the other are excellent. Particularly in snow -for water adventures canned air horns, hand flares, smoke flares and water dye should be carried without fail. The ocean, snow and tree canopies are the hardest obstacles to effective signaling
They never solved the French Cyclist ( bicycle ), who was murdered while camping near Lincoln, Oregon. He was cycling from Canada, then down through WA, and then into Oregon, which was were he was brutally murdered in his tent, the killer (s), didn’t take his expensive bicycle, are other possessions, just maybe his money, a couple hundred dollars maybe. Very sad, back in the 80’s I believe.
*"Super Hunter!?"* I think that's a terrible term for these types of people. That's actually a term some people would *love* to have attached to their own...
@@TR-mm1qg that's more suitable especially the way they described the way these people are like being territorial, dominant/controlling and anti social. Share more characteristics with a wild animal than a human being. Killing 2 people and their dog should qualify as a mass murderer. He's most likely a serial killer, imho. He took several trophies including their license plates. I would say he has done this before and he has more souvenirs or trophies from his previous murders.
I’ve always wondered who was responsible for this. My prayers go out to the families and friends of the deceased. I live about an hour outside Oakridge and this was devastating to hear of something so heinous to people enjoying the mountains and nature Oregon has to offer.
Damn, I was living in Eugene at this time and I don't remember hearing a thing about this case! How very sad... and how horrifying that it's still unsolved! 😢 Just FYI (and for everyone's info), the emphasis is on "lam" in "Willamette."
I heard about it, live the Midwest, it didn’t get a lot of media attention.. I read a news blurb and researched it ,was nomading at the time so I was very apprise of the news .. probably too much
Lived in Oregon my entire 52 years. In recent years I don’t feel as safe. You go up into the woods where years past you wouldn’t see anyone. Now you come across people living in the woods and it’s creepy. They make a huge mess and poach every animal around they can get. I’m not unarmed anymore.
I live in the area and in 2019 there was another murdered couple very similar to this one. Stacy Jean Rickerd and Jeremy David Merchant. There is surprisingly little information about this and the murderer has not been caught.
Interesting side bar, my classmates father retired from the FBI behavioral unit and shared that over the last 30yrs they believe many of the missing and murdered found in remote public lands are tied to Superhunters types. They have a matrix that correlates everything from victims demographics and age to how they were found and method they were killed . The good news if you can call it that is they say there are likely less than a dozen in the continental US and perhaps 3 to 5 in Canada.
PNW hikers should always have a Space Blanket to aid in Shiny Reflector. Father In law that past away recently was From Oak Ridge. very Rugged terrain compared to coast range it is STEEP....
really rugged country in those highways leading up to the Cascade areas. Crater Lake highway, Highway 58, highway 20 come to mind. and Oakridge has a lot of methheads as do areas like prospect, cave junction, zigzag ect.
It is so unfair what happened to Jeanette and Ceasar. Life is so preciouses and getting out to enjoy nature should not end this way for anyone. I hate that there are people in this world that would commit violence on innocent people. Thank you for telling there story Brian, and I hope we find the murderer someday. :(
Exactly, I cut my own firewood and run into scummy creeps out in the woods quite often these days. Always have my pistol bag next to me, and look around as often as possible.
You make an unbelievable assumption On November 13, 1988 Mulugeta Seraw an Ethiopian college student 28 was brutally murdered by three white supremacists in Portland, Oregon…. the US is a violent country founded on genocide… we value unlimited gun access and free speech to lie lie and lie ….
A demonic coward and unfortunately it's more of them than you think. Heartbreaking for their families and friends. Prayers for all of them. I pray this monster is caught.
for future reference it's: "Will-Am-It" Willamette. I spent my summers south of Oakridge in the Crescent Lake area. I remember this incident. Horrible.
I wonder if Bryan might try calling a few local forest departments to hear how the locals pronounce it? They're happy to answer, or call the fishing forecast to hear them on recordings.
@@steveelder5306 lol, me too! But we're losing locals and visitors right and left, half were looking for the Will-ah-met-tee, no wonder they're gone. By the time we get to Siskiyou's, or Clackamas, surrender your pronunciation guides here.
@@opheliadeclines yeah I've heard announcers calling Duck games call it the Willamettee also lol. that's the worse one I was talking about lol. how about the Wallowas?
“Rare”, similar thing happened to the man sleeping in his tent w his children. Shot in his tent all bc a homeless vagrant living in the Cali national forest area. Why isn’t the national park service not transparent w all the recent crime being committed?!
1983 I hiked with my girlfriend across the Sierras from west to east. The trailhead was Crescent Meadow which also had a parking lot. We arrived in the late afternoon around 4pm. We were going to camp at the site next to our car but another car pulled in and two young guys and a girl got out and took the site next to ours. They were loud, passing around a bottle of Jack Daniels and I think they were already drunk when they got there. The woman had a lazy eye. They tried to make some crude conversation with us but really, they creeped us both out. We decided to hike up the trail a mile or two before sunset and camp as far away from them as possible. Car camping seems a lot more dangerous than high country backpacking where you usually meet the nicest people. I never go car camping without my pistol these days. I just don't think it's safe.
The Cline Falls axe attack refers to an unsolved attempted homicide that occurred on the evening of June 22, 1977, at the Cline Falls State Park in Deschutes County, Oregon United States. The victims were two female college students, Terri Jentz and her roommate, Avra Goldman, who were on a cross-country cycling ride along the Trans America Trail.
Not will- a- met. It's Will-lamb-it. Sorry to be nit-picky, but I lived there for almost thirty years. That was hard on my ears. It's not Ore-a-gon. It's Ore-a- gun. You got that one right!
🚨As much as we hate the fact it’s not 1990 out on-trail anymore. Our world is significantly more dangerous and so are our wildernesses 🚨Sleeping campers are some of the most vulnerable people and often possess thousands of dollars worth of gear that’s easily sold afterwards w/ no questions asked. For a couple ounces you can carry a 130dB camp security parameter in your pocket. 3 or 4 of these personal alarms (shackle style) & a roll of 75-100lb test kevlar cordage is all you need to tie off a perimeter around your camp before you turn in. Think “WW2 Marines with the tin cans/pebbles on commo wire”. Four of these strung at shin height are perfect for peace of mind. They’re especially good for nervous campers who think every raccoon is Bart the bear. This is the brand I use as the shackle requires enough pressure that ground critters like skunks, possum and Rocky won’t set it off. Bear, moose, elk, deer and bad guys will. Lastly (and I’m not about politicizing this) IMO if your spouse and kids are behind a nylon wall and you’re far and gone, not only EMS help; you’re nowhere near a signal either, it is 100% up to you to be able to defend the lives of your loved ones. FWIW I wish it was still 1985 and we didn’t need these conversations. But ever since that couple was raped/murdered on the AT in Pennsylvania, while sleeping in a shelter, by a random stranger who was on a drinking & cocaine binge, we all need to take trail security WAY more seriously. No need for paranoia. But as a man who knows precisely what it’s like to awaken at 4am to the bellow-herfing of a 350 pound black bear less than 5 feet from my tent I highly recommend you folks take my security perimeter hack seriously. Here’s a link to the alarms I bought back in ‘18. I got 6 and all 6 have been bombproof. www.amazon.com/Tripwire-Emergency-Personal-Included-Carabiner/dp/B01ISNQK04/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?crid=2VTFAVMW0KAM1&keywords=personal+alarms+basu&qid=1677712144&sprefix=personal+alarms+basu%2Caps%2C259&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyUjBIUzFRSDMxR00yJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMTYwMDk3Mkw2UTk3MEE5UUhWNyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUExMDQ3MDQzMTE1UDJVUTBVRUhSMiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX3Bob25lX3NlYXJjaF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl
Listening to this case , i think there was something deeper going on. People can be wonderful, but we dont know what goes on behind doors. This seems targeted. Not a case of a " transient " or predator which is extremely rare
Wow! The opening photo was shocking! I always wondered why, especially when people are dressed in bright colors, it is so hard for helicopters to see people. I think of helicopters that are used in police chases and it seems like they can get fairly close to the ground, though I know the slope of the mountain determines how close they can get. Seeing that just reinforces the need for folks who are out in nature regularly to have some sort of GPS device. This case was sad. I hope someone, someday, provides the family with some answers, even if it is too late to bring someone to trial it is never too late to tell the truth.
I hike in Lane county all of the time. I've seen some sketchy people when I've been mushroom hunting & found abandoned camping in the middle of BFE out of cell phone service and waaaay out in the woods. I prefer to hike where most people aren't. It's good to have another or several people when foraging valuable things but there are some odd people out there. I also wouldn't county on lane county sherriffs office to rescue you or even help at all. They're one of the few counties that are STILL not online with most of their court documents....... STILL. I've been able to go on the clerk of courts office for smaller cities since the 1990's, not here. That make a LOT of thing go un noticed or unknown by the public. When I was in search & rescue they only look 100 yards or less from most roads or paths, if you're further out than that and or hard to see you may never be found if in trouble. It's smart to be safe & smart in the PNW wilderness but never afraid. JM2C.
Thanks for the great videos and keeping the word out there about people going missing etc. I don’t mean to come off like a troll or some know -it-all jerk but at about 8:04 in your video you are showing a National Park Service logo (Department of Interior, National Park Service) even though the story is about people going missing in the Willamette National Forest (Department of Agriculture, US Forest Service, National Forests). It’s a little misleading in your story by having an NPS logo as opposed to a US National Forest Service Logo. They are from two different Departments of the Gov’t with different missions. The main stream media doesn’t get the distinction either but I would hope that people claiming to care that they might get this distinctions correct. People who work for each agency think it matters too. Obviously people go missing in every federal and state land management agency’s “properties” but it would be good for you to also educate the public on the distinctions between agencies especially as it relates to your stories. And obviously those people who go missing could have potentially traveled between Forest service and Park Service lands but looking at the Willamette there is no NPS (national park service ) lands nearby. Your accurateness in info is important. Thanks!
Watch The Ghosts of Highway 20, about Oregon serial killer John Arthur Ackroyd. He worked for the state as a mechanic, maintenance worker … the man was a beast…
It's a good idea to mark personal items with an indelible laundry marker or engraving pen with a name and home county. This will help searchers and authorities. In wilderness crimes the stolen items may turn up in a pawn shop.
"The case is similar to the double slaying of a mother and daughter a year later in neighboring Washington state. Both sets of victims were slain in rural settings on public lands, and in both cases the victims' vehicles were left at the scene, the Lane County Sheriff's Office said."
There's been a problem in these places for some time, I remember as a kid and I'm in my 50's now. People have a real false sense of security when in the PNW wilderness.
You take good care, and thank you for remembering all these people. You covered my childhood cohort, who I thought NO ONE remembered (who went missing very early 80's when we were growing up on the edge of the Olympic National Forest). I was very grateful
I’ve never heard a story about the mother and daughter. I do remember it I’m glad you brought that up. I wish someone would talk about it.
The forests of Oregon have been my home for the last 40-some years (with frequent trips to the forests of Washington). I feel safer in the forest than I do in the cities or towns, because it's just a matter of numbers; fewer people, fewer people with bad intentions. Random murders in the wilderness are definitely rare, compared to random murders in densely populated areas. But there are, unfortunately, evil people in the world, and there are really no places that are truly safe from them. I don't know if murders of campers are more common in PNW public lands versus public lands in other parts of the United States, but it's certainly a very sobering thing to think about.
I remember the mother and daughter who were murdered. They were just hiking on a trail.
I hike in Lane county all of the time. I've seen some sketchy people when I've been mushroom hunting & found abandoned camping in the middle of BFE out of cell phone service and waaaay out in the woods. I prefer to hike where most people aren't. It's good to have another or several people when foraging valuable things but there are some odd people out there. I also wouldn't county on lane county sherriffs office to rescue you or even help at all. They're one of the few counties that are STILL not online with most of their court documents....... STILL. I've been able to go on the clerk of courts office for smaller cities since the 1990's, not here. That make a LOT of thing go un noticed or unknown by the public. When I was in search & rescue they only look 100 yards or less from most roads or paths, if you're further out than that and or hard to see you may never be found if in trouble. It's smart to be safe & smart in the PNW wilderness but never afraid. JM2C.
This is just horrible, I am so sorry for your loss.
I'm in the middle of the video and I'm in awe of the term "super hunter". I never heard of this term before. Maybe we should use the term "psycho hunter" instead?
Man, I've had to rewatch this one, just to take it ALL in. Unbelievable how an EVIL lunatic can blindly take away these 2 sweethearts who were minding their own business. The dog too!? 😞😞😞😞 Heartbreaking case. I hope it gets solved!! It's just not right! I've NEVER heard the term Super Hunter... that's a new one.
it's a really chilling term. with all of these Missing 411 cases I have wondered if its something like this.
@@steveelder5306 Being shot to death doesn't fit the criteria of Missing 411....at all.
@@drew2fast489 exactly!
My boyfriend and I were attacked in the Nantahala forest by some local people and it was terrifying. They tried to kill us, and just because of a fluke we got away, but one of them had bitten off my boyfriends ear, and was yelling to another person to go get the knife so that they could stab us to death, and I managed to slip away, and that gave my boyfriend an opportunity to run down into the valley and escape that guy. So we survived. They were later, caught and charged with attempted murder and convicted.
It was my birthday on Labor Day and we’d just returned from a summer camping and hiking in glacier national park
As a person who often goes camping in the forest, this is my greatest fear. I have seen creepy people in filthy camps back in the middle of nowhere, and was lucky to spot them first and turn around. I am constantly alert and armed with bear spray, hunting knife and .45 pistol, but if some evil psychopath creeps up to your tent in the middle of the night there isn't a hell of a lot you can do.
For that reason I sometimes pitch my tent and sleep concealed nearby. If I hear a twig snap I want to be ready.
Tiki Tavi You have to trust that gut instinct for sure. I don't camp, but do hike and usually by myself. Some people just give off creepy vibes.
I can't see where going camping and having to deal with what you described as being worth it! So you go camping always in fear to the point you don't even sleep in your tent for fear someone may attack you? Yea that seems so relaxing and worth it! 😏
Your being smart. And very alert. Don't trust anybody. Evil is just waiting, to take you down. LORD GOD Almighty is keeping score.
@@journeysalkebulan Or I can sit home on my couch and do nothing.
Let me explain something, I love being outside, and I will not let the existence of Human rats take that away from me. I am capable, armed and I am not a coward.
It's a little game I play, and I make the rules.
@@journeysalkebulan you must have never been dry camping 😮 we are actually inn more danger here in any of our major cities … people are the real danger and they seem to be everywhere
Thank you Brian. I always enjoy your stories. Twenty years ago I frequently hiked alone in the Santa Cruz mountains for hours. I would not do that today. It’s no longer safe.
Either that, or a boatload of these so-called Mysteries are completely fabricated. So that we have a situation going on like in the movie The village. The so-called authorities convince the people there are scary things in the woods and that they are only safe under care in the village. Our prison cities are that village.
I doubt it was safe then. You were just blissfully unaware long enough to create great memories 😊
@@duvessa2003 Absolutely! And I don’t think I brought any protection with me.
So a couple of thoughts and suggestions to anyone reading this from a former law enforcement officer and now private investigator...
#1 - Most if not all homicides are NOT random. Yes, they happen but more often then not the suspect(s) and victim(s) new each other, came in contact with each other, saw each other, etc. I would bet money that the killer(s) most likely one suspect was seen by the victims in this case. Perhaps, at some point while they were setting up or making their way into the park the suspect observed the victims. This leads me to my suggestion for people when they go into the forest or the wild. Bring a firearm and wear it. Dont leave it in your car or tent. Conceal it if you have to, but have it on you. Keep your head on a swivel. Most likely these victims were being watched by the suspect and close enough that if these people had been paying attention they would have noticed him. The more aware you are of your surroundings at all times the better chance of you picking up on the sometimes subtle clues that something isnt right. Far too often people have a false sense of security when they are camping that nothing will happen and that the place is full of happy, law abiding people enjoying the outdoors. This is false. There are too many people that go missing and also murdered in our national forests. You just dont hear about it.
#2 - Get yourself a $100 trail camera with a large memory SD card and put it in a place that will best observe you and your campsite. Make sure it is concealed enough that no one can see it. This will do two things. First it will let you know if anyone is stalking your campsite while you are on a hike or away getting food or at night when you are sleeping. Second, if something should happen where you are the victim of a crime it will give the authorities the best chance at finding the suspect (s) and yes law enforcement will find the camera in the event that you go missing or are killed.
#3 - Make sure you have a GPS emergency locator on you at all times. This will allow you to summon rescue personnel if you are injured or lost. It will also act as an emergency panic button if you should come in contact with someone who is robbing you or stealing your car without you having to risk using your cell phone and you may not have service anyway. Very few people have gone missing when they had a GPS Emergency locator.
We are seeing more and more cartel related crime and homicides in our national parks from the cartels growing marijuana in our parks. They will also target you for a specific vehicle you are driving. They prefer trucks and SUV's. They will kill you for your car and identification. When I heard this case mention the license plates missing that is the first thing I thought of was a cartel related homicide. They also have the M.O. of killing everyone including your pets.
#3 - If you go camping go with a crowd. The more people the less likely a perpetrator is going to target you. If you cant bring people with you, seek out locations close to other campers. Within a 100 yard radius.
These tips will help you stay safe in the outdoors. Its true that the majority of the you are safe in these areas. However, there are times when the criminal element is out there with you. Dont make it easy for them. Dont be a target. Keep your head on a swivel. If something doesn't look right it probably isnt. Trust those gut instincts!
Thank you so much for these tips and thank you for your service.
If I have to go camping in a crowd, I am not going.
@@allanfifield8256 Good for you.
@@Ryanboy2020 What trail cam would u recommend? I have a property that i own. Everytime i go there someone has propped branches (broken off ones) up into the live branches so they fall as you walk or mow under them. Thanks!
@@michele21auntiem There are a multitude of different trail cameras or surveillance systems that I could recommend. Without knowing your budget the list would be endless. In your situation I would recommend a camera that has it's own wifi and will alert you to when someone has breached the area you have set it up in and will start recording and send that information to your cell phone. These can be a little pricey but it gives you the best chance of catching the person and knowing exactly when they are there. If that's not important you can get a less expensive camera that will simply record whatever comes into the field of view and then it will be up to you to check it on a regular basis to see if it caught a image or recorded anything. It all depends on how much you want to spend and if you want to know right away if someone has been in the area.
We would love for you to visit our forests As a helpful hint: Willamette is pronounced, will- am- it.
Have a wonderful day and we love your channel as it is of great service to society.
Your content and presentation skills and production abilities get better with each of these you do. Onward!
That's a human being 👀 that speck!? WOW, we really are just like grains of sand or tiny ants. I read yesterday "WHEN SOMEONE GOES MISSING, EVERYONE'S LOOKING FOR THAT PERSON, BUT OTHERWISE WE'RE INVISIBLE TO EACH OTHER." That's sad to me but so true 😞 Great video Bryan. You're on top of your work and the research is much appreciated.
How sad for this nice couple and beautiful dog. I hope one day justice is served!
Excellent presentation
Deep sympathy for families involved
They wasn't bothering anyone. Just heart breaking😔
Very disturbing case! So sad. Thank you for covering it and bringing it into the light. Excellent job, I appreciate your time and hard work!
I have not heard this case before. I live in Vancouver but work in Portland. This is really sad. Very strange case. Thank you for doing this video.
I live an hour away from Oakridge, I didn't hear about it either???
More terrific coverage. Thanks, Brian. I’m definitely afraid to go into a national forest by myself or even with a dog…
This is really sad. There are too many lunatics out there. I wouldn't go out in the middle of nowhere. It might be rare, but I'm not taking any chances. Thanks Brian for sharing this case. RIP Jeanette, Steven and Caesar. I hope the families will get answers for closure. Such a nice couple. My heart is breaking for them. So senseless.😢
You can't ask why with an incident like this......psychopaths have no reason we can understand. Scary.
Yes, they have demons. No human is like this just on their own. They try to say they can be but that's not the case. Also people get desensitized.
@@dontworryaboutit4255"Demons cause mental illness" dumbass from the 15th century😂
That is pure EVIL. At least all 3 are in Heaven together.
BRYAN YOU ARE A GREAT PERSON I WILL SAY IT OVER AND OVER
That reminds me so much of what happened in Moab, UT! Good job on this ❤
Omg, so sad how an evil monster can do this to someone for no reason. Senseless evil.
Brian, I'm really enjoying yr videos. I watch every day. With luv fm South Africa 🇬🇾
Brian…Thanks for THIS episode; I HOPE it helps resolve this mystery…. 👍🏼👍🏼👣👠
That is so effed up. 👈
Can't even be safe from fellow human beings in our national parks. That's too 😞 bad. Horrible
Wow. Talk about a needle in a haystack. I can't believe how small that person looked from the helicopter.
This case truly truly hurt my heart 💔 a sweet couple and thier dog - minding thier own business- 💔 just making memories with each other- 💔
Thank you for acknowledging Caesar the dog, and including his name at the end. He was a family member, as all pets are, and his life was just as valuable and important. 🐶💔🙏
Every evening when I watch videos I scroll down to see what new stories you have covered. It's good to see one from my home state of oregon. Even though it horrible what happened to them. Thanks Bryan.
You are making these stories up Brian!!
thank you! i have not heard of this case! i pray they get justice!
Hi Bryan, could you please cover Madison Scott's case. She went camping and went missing. It happened in Canada. Thank you.
Hope Bryan covers her case.
Why did authorities decide to use the name 'super hunter' to describe these types of evil psychos? Are they trying to glorify them?? Why?
Ive seen authorities play petty games instead of help a victim and their family. Ive seen Cops laugh at moms death. You really cant trust anything anymore.
“Super” has more than one meaning.
Rest in peace Steven and Jeanette
I just wanted to say that I appreciate your channel
Spotting a person against a dynamic landscape is incredibly hard. We look for movement and color, both of which aren't visible at great distance. ALWAYS CARRY A GPS BEACON AND A SIGNAL MIRROR IN YOUR EQUIPMENT. The mirror should be useful in an emergency if you've hopefully already drawn them to you with your beacon. To hike those trails and distances I don't grasp how anyone decides the emergency beacon is not necessary.
Thanks Brian, I really enjoy hearing the stories and I also appreciate your sensitivity to family & friends of people in the videos. God Bless.
Tragic - may they RIP 🙏
I think it's very good to inform the public. I think you do an excellent job.
Pronunciation of Oregon was great! Willamette is Will a (like in mad) mit, emphasis on the a. Thanks for sharing this story I’ve never heard from my state.
I wonder if there was a marijuana grow nearby, or they witnessed a crime of some kind? Geez that is really scary 😢
Someone had to have heard the gunshots, especially multiple shots and in the mountains, it really echoes, but can't escape divine justice
In my experience gunshots aren't heard that far away in the Oregon brush. and you really can't tell the direction most of the time. this is forest, not mountains and usually when you're in it you can hardly see more than fifty or a hundred feet when you're off trail. that's why so many people who get lost stay lost. now there is this Super Hunter thing. have wondered about all of the Missing 411 cases and that it might be a serial killer in a lot of the puzzling cases. Mount Rainier seems to have a bunch of vanished into thin air cases lately. also in southern calif.
Even if someone heard them, it wouldn’t have been given a second thought since it’s not unusual for people to use firearms in an area like that.
@@rockstarofredondo that's right
You are really doing an awesome job two thumbs up
Do not be put off hiking and camping because of this, as the odds of this happening are almost zero, statistically you are WAY more likely to die in a road accident on the way to or from your destination. Stay vigilant, stay safe!
It isn't just bad acts. We lost two tourists whose car landed in a tree on a steep mountainside, but the woods were so dense the cops missed them until an unnecessarily slow ordeal.
Sometimes things happen. The bigger our population the more will happen.
God bless them wonderfully folks
❤️ love your dedication to the couple
I didn't realize there was a name for people who protect their 'territories'. How scary!
Absolutely horrifying, poor poor couple.
That is really scary that people actually hunt people down
Love this channel
Per Bryan’s opening shot of the NPS/helo looking at the “speck” (victim). Proper signaling tools are some of the easiest & for the most part, compact, tools that adventurers should carry:
-Orion 12g flares and gun require no license & are sold OTC in the US. $75 is a great price but $90 is standard
-Amazon sells lasers that are the size of a tactical pen for $20. Aside from a mirror & whistle they’re an unbeatable option for the price, weight & volume
-as mentioned an SOL signal mirror and LOUD whistle are must-carry’s
-chem lights when tied to a few feet of cordage (even a shoelace) and whipped rapidly in a 360 create a “saw”. It’s unmistakable especially at night
-survival blankets that are neon orange on one side & mylar reflective on the other are excellent. Particularly in snow
-for water adventures canned air horns, hand flares, smoke flares and water dye should be carried without fail. The ocean, snow and tree canopies are the hardest obstacles to effective signaling
God Bless You Sir.
They never solved the French Cyclist ( bicycle ), who was murdered while camping near Lincoln, Oregon. He was cycling from Canada, then down through WA, and then into Oregon, which was were he was brutally murdered in his tent, the killer (s), didn’t take his expensive bicycle, are other possessions, just maybe his money, a couple hundred dollars maybe. Very sad, back in the 80’s I believe.
This is horrible. I'm so sorry for their loved ones. We live in a terribly messed up world. I hope they track this particular bit of evil down.
This is really horrible and sad for their loved ones.🙏
*"Super Hunter!?"* I think that's a terrible term for these types of people. That's actually a term some people would *love* to have attached to their own...
More like human predators.
@@TR-mm1qg that's more suitable especially the way they described the way these people are like being territorial, dominant/controlling and anti social. Share more characteristics with a wild animal than a human being.
Killing 2 people and their dog should qualify as a mass murderer. He's most likely a serial killer, imho. He took several trophies including their license plates. I would say he has done this before and he has more souvenirs or trophies from his previous murders.
Hubby and i gonna be camping around western/cetral ny, northern/western pa this summer. Im especially excited for cook county forest in pa!
It is absolutely beautiful… the old white pines ❤
When I first moved to Oregon I also called it Willamett.
So wait ...I'm saying it wrong too!? 😂 For years now that's how I've pronounced it.👀
@@CoralineJonesPinkPalace
"Will-LAM-met"
I’ve always wondered who was responsible for this. My prayers go out to the families and friends of the deceased. I live about an hour outside Oakridge and this was devastating to hear of something so heinous to people enjoying the mountains and nature Oregon has to offer.
Damn, I was living in Eugene at this time and I don't remember hearing a thing about this case! How very sad... and how horrifying that it's still unsolved! 😢
Just FYI (and for everyone's info), the emphasis is on "lam" in "Willamette."
I heard about it, live the Midwest, it didn’t get a lot of media attention.. I read a news blurb and researched it ,was nomading at the time so I was very apprise of the news .. probably too much
God Bless the families of these precious people
Lived in Oregon my entire 52 years. In recent years I don’t feel as safe. You go up into the woods where years past you wouldn’t see anyone. Now you come across people living in the woods and it’s creepy. They make a huge mess and poach every animal around they can get. I’m not unarmed anymore.
I live in the area and in 2019 there was another murdered couple very similar to this one. Stacy Jean Rickerd and Jeremy David Merchant. There is surprisingly little information about this and the murderer has not been caught.
Interesting side bar, my classmates father retired from the FBI behavioral unit and shared that over the last 30yrs they believe many of the missing and murdered found in remote public lands are tied to Superhunters types. They have a matrix that correlates everything from victims demographics and age to how they were found and method they were killed . The good news if you can call it that is they say there are likely less than a dozen in the continental US and perhaps 3 to 5 in Canada.
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Exactly
Tragic! 🙏
PNW hikers should always have a Space Blanket to aid in Shiny Reflector. Father In law that past away recently was From Oak Ridge. very Rugged terrain compared to coast range it is STEEP....
really rugged country in those highways leading up to the Cascade areas. Crater Lake highway, Highway 58, highway 20 come to mind. and Oakridge has a lot of methheads as do areas like prospect, cave junction, zigzag ect.
thank You
Superhunter? What?! I had no clue that was a thing. Mind blown. Its not eben in my dictionary app. They definitely need to add it. Crazy
It is so unfair what happened to Jeanette and Ceasar. Life is so preciouses and getting out to enjoy nature should not end this way for anyone. I hate that there are people in this world that would commit violence on innocent people. Thank you for telling there story Brian, and I hope we find the murderer someday. :(
The amount of druggies running rampant in Oregon since the governor legalized all drugs is insane. Always go armed anywhere you go
This story is from 2005 so they might have run into a growing site, but certainly nothing legalized by their governor back then.
@@opheliadeclines still crazy drug people in the Willamette National Forest and all over the PDX adjacent area.
Exactly, I cut my own firewood and run into scummy creeps out in the woods quite often these days. Always have my pistol bag next to me, and look around as often as possible.
@@tikitavi7120 I'm on the south coast and it's got crazies all over. Oregon has never really been that safe. it's way bad now.
You make an unbelievable assumption
On November 13, 1988 Mulugeta Seraw an Ethiopian college student 28 was brutally murdered by three white supremacists in Portland, Oregon…. the US is a violent country founded on genocide… we value unlimited gun access and free speech to lie lie and lie ….
A demonic coward and unfortunately it's more of them than you think. Heartbreaking for their families and friends. Prayers for all of them. I pray this monster is caught.
Horrific case , knowing that the perpetrator / s are not caught !
for future reference it's: "Will-Am-It" Willamette. I spent my summers south of Oakridge in the Crescent Lake area. I remember this incident. Horrible.
I wonder if Bryan might try calling a few local forest departments to hear how the locals pronounce it? They're happy to answer, or call the fishing forecast to hear them on recordings.
@@opheliadeclines I've heard worse lol
@@steveelder5306 lol, me too! But we're losing locals and visitors right and left, half were looking for the Will-ah-met-tee, no wonder they're gone. By the time we get to Siskiyou's, or Clackamas, surrender your pronunciation guides here.
@@opheliadeclines yeah I've heard announcers calling Duck games call it the Willamettee also lol. that's the worse one I was talking about lol. how about the Wallowas?
“Rare”, similar thing happened to the man sleeping in his tent w his children. Shot in his tent all bc a homeless vagrant living in the Cali national forest area. Why isn’t the national park service not transparent w all the recent crime being committed?!
Sad story
1983 I hiked with my girlfriend across the Sierras from west to east. The trailhead was Crescent Meadow which also had a parking lot. We arrived in the late afternoon around 4pm. We were going to camp at the site next to our car but another car pulled in and two young guys and a girl got out and took the site next to ours. They were loud, passing around a bottle of Jack Daniels and I think they were already drunk when they got there. The woman had a lazy eye. They tried to make some crude conversation with us but really, they creeped us both out. We decided to hike up the trail a mile or two before sunset and camp as far away from them as possible. Car camping seems a lot more dangerous than high country backpacking where you usually meet the nicest people. I never go car camping without my pistol these days. I just don't think it's safe.
Winter time for the southern hemisphere in July
Hello Bryan. Happy weekday. Lol
hopefully the pieces of filth that did this get payback in the worst way...
Willamette, it is pronounced 'will amet. Keep up the great job. Your voice is perfect😊
So sad
The Cline Falls axe attack refers to an unsolved attempted homicide that occurred on the evening of June 22, 1977, at the Cline Falls State Park in Deschutes County, Oregon United States. The victims were two female college students, Terri Jentz and her roommate, Avra Goldman, who were on a cross-country cycling ride along the Trans America Trail.
Not will- a- met. It's Will-lamb-it. Sorry to be nit-picky, but I lived there for almost thirty years. That was hard on my ears. It's not Ore-a-gon. It's Ore-a- gun. You got that one right!
Excuse me.....SUPER HUNTERS??????? I thought nothing could scare me, but holy jello that's insane.
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It’s Willamette, damn it! 😉
It's pronounced Will-am-Met. Most people that aren't from Oregon don't pronounce that right or a few other regional words correctly. Great video!
FYI - pronounced Wil-LAM-it. Good story. Hope the perpetrator(s) are found.
🚨As much as we hate the fact it’s not 1990 out on-trail anymore. Our world is significantly more dangerous and so are our wildernesses 🚨Sleeping campers are some of the most vulnerable people and often possess thousands of dollars worth of gear that’s easily sold afterwards w/ no questions asked. For a couple ounces you can carry a 130dB camp security parameter in your pocket. 3 or 4 of these personal alarms (shackle style) & a roll of 75-100lb test kevlar cordage is all you need to tie off a perimeter around your camp before you turn in. Think “WW2 Marines with the tin cans/pebbles on commo wire”. Four of these strung at shin height are perfect for peace of mind. They’re especially good for nervous campers who think every raccoon is Bart the bear. This is the brand I use as the shackle requires enough pressure that ground critters like skunks, possum and Rocky won’t set it off. Bear, moose, elk, deer and bad guys will. Lastly (and I’m not about politicizing this) IMO if your spouse and kids are behind a nylon wall and you’re far and gone, not only EMS help; you’re nowhere near a signal either, it is 100% up to you to be able to defend the lives of your loved ones. FWIW I wish it was still 1985 and we didn’t need these conversations. But ever since that couple was raped/murdered on the AT in Pennsylvania, while sleeping in a shelter, by a random stranger who was on a drinking & cocaine binge, we all need to take trail security WAY more seriously. No need for paranoia. But as a man who knows precisely what it’s like to awaken at 4am to the bellow-herfing of a 350 pound black bear less than 5 feet from my tent I highly recommend you folks take my security perimeter hack seriously. Here’s a link to the alarms I bought back in ‘18. I got 6 and all 6 have been bombproof. www.amazon.com/Tripwire-Emergency-Personal-Included-Carabiner/dp/B01ISNQK04/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?crid=2VTFAVMW0KAM1&keywords=personal+alarms+basu&qid=1677712144&sprefix=personal+alarms+basu%2Caps%2C259&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyUjBIUzFRSDMxR00yJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMTYwMDk3Mkw2UTk3MEE5UUhWNyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUExMDQ3MDQzMTE1UDJVUTBVRUhSMiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX3Bob25lX3NlYXJjaF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl
Listening to this case , i think there was something deeper going on. People can be wonderful, but we dont know what goes on behind doors. This seems targeted. Not a case of a " transient " or predator which is extremely rare
Wow! The opening photo was shocking! I always wondered why, especially when people are dressed in bright colors, it is so hard for helicopters to see people. I think of helicopters that are used in police chases and it seems like they can get fairly close to the ground, though I know the slope of the mountain determines how close they can get. Seeing that just reinforces the need for folks who are out in nature regularly to have some sort of GPS device.
This case was sad. I hope someone, someday, provides the family with some answers, even if it is too late to bring someone to trial it is never too late to tell the truth.
I hike in Lane county all of the time. I've seen some sketchy people when I've been mushroom hunting & found abandoned camping in the middle of BFE out of cell phone service and waaaay out in the woods. I prefer to hike where most people aren't. It's good to have another or several people when foraging valuable things but there are some odd people out there. I also wouldn't county on lane county sherriffs office to rescue you or even help at all. They're one of the few counties that are STILL not online with most of their court documents....... STILL. I've been able to go on the clerk of courts office for smaller cities since the 1990's, not here. That make a LOT of thing go un noticed or unknown by the public. When I was in search & rescue they only look 100 yards or less from most roads or paths, if you're further out than that and or hard to see you may never be found if in trouble. It's smart to be safe & smart in the PNW wilderness but never afraid. JM2C.
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WILL-AM-ET, TY
Will-am-et. I have spent much time in this forest. I had not heard about this. 🙁
About that speck on the snow..if there was no snow like in regular nature this person would not be seen at all..
Thanks for the great videos and keeping the word out there about people going missing etc. I don’t mean to come off like a troll or some know -it-all jerk but at about 8:04 in your video you are showing a National Park Service logo (Department of Interior, National Park Service) even though the story is about people going missing in the Willamette National Forest (Department of Agriculture, US Forest Service, National Forests). It’s a little misleading in your story by having an NPS logo as opposed to a US National Forest Service Logo. They are from two different Departments of the Gov’t with different missions. The main stream media doesn’t get the distinction either but I would hope that people claiming to care that they might get this distinctions correct. People who work for each agency think it matters too. Obviously people go missing in every federal and state land management agency’s “properties” but it would be good for you to also educate the public on the distinctions between agencies especially as it relates to your stories. And obviously those people who go missing could have potentially traveled between Forest service and Park Service lands but looking at the Willamette there is no NPS (national park service ) lands nearby. Your accurateness in info is important. Thanks!
Watch The Ghosts of Highway 20, about Oregon serial killer John Arthur Ackroyd. He worked for the state as a mechanic, maintenance worker … the man was a beast…
It's a good idea to mark personal items with an indelible laundry marker or engraving pen with a name and home county. This will help searchers and authorities. In wilderness crimes the stolen items may turn up in a pawn shop.
I had a very frightening incident in willamette national forest; a man tried to get into my tent around 1am
A super Hunter 🙄🤦🏻♀️ how does anyone know when there's a super Hunter on the move.... Dangerous world 🌍