I remember either The Simpsons or Family Guy had a quote about how parents shouldn't rely on the TV raising their kids and maybe they should just talk to them
There was a variant of that on Futurama. Bender (talking to parents complaining about their kids imitating what they see on a TV show): "I ask you this one question: Have you ever tried simply turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?"
Both of the shoes have done their own spin off episodes that are basically about this exact topic of how you shouldn’t rely on TV to raise your kids/family.
Yeah- I LOVE that line. Bcus really?? How can a parent get mad at a show you allow your kids to watch!? That’s like saying there shouldn’t be porn & liquor bcus you have a kid… how about raise your kid right😂
The South Park grudge has been known widely by fans of both shows. However, funny enough, there has been that same level of controversy with The Simpson's as well. Even though Seth and Matt Groening are respectful to each other, their writers and staff had an obvious beef til the crossover happened. Since then, Family Guy has owned up to being inspired; right down to Peter openly admitting " I know we said we borrow a little from the Simpson's....but we borrow ALOT from The Simpsons!"
@@realdragonthe argument of gags that family guy relies on is hypocritical coming from south park with how before they stopped in every episode they killed Kenny, there was always the fact of Cartman bringing up Jews or gingers and as of late with Randy's entire persona being surrounded by his weed farm
I think when it comes to the domestic one, seeing the abuser basically crushed to death by quagmire is a lot more satisfying because she was now completely safe knowing he'd never turn up again
Yeah but I would have loved to see Quagmire's Sister crush him to death. It's a situation where she was never going to leave him and the show ends with her distraught that he's gone. I don't know that I liked the episode but that piece of it felt almost too real.
Quagmires Dad is a great episode It's good and realistic for the most part The part is that they genuinely made Ida the best character on a show because of her genuine life experience and wisdom That shows me that no matter how she identifies Shes still the same helpful caring love and intelligent person she always was pre and post transition
@@dizzy7291 if thats the case its def true. Started as a joke and ende dup one of the “level headed” people of the show. They use ida for that topic now i suppose.
The best family guy was from 2004 - 2011. Old episodes are still good and they occasionally still make good ones but the OTP gore in modern episodes is annoying at times.
The crazy part is, the first few seasons caught a lotta flak too 😭😭 at the time certain people thought the some of the jokes were too sexually explicit
my theory is that they realized way more people watched on adult swim, which is much less strict with censors, than on fox. not to mention its newfound popularity on as is what got fans demanding fox bring it back. so they just decided to do whatever no matter how offensive or wild it was knowing that if it gets censored on fox it'll still air somewhat intact on as and get the same amount if not more viewers anyway.
Listen, as a trans person who's watched family guy for a while, it's a extremely satire show that is NOT to be taken seriously. I've always seen it as a something that shows you basically how NOT to act, It has its good moments but overall, its a joke. Its how you don't react/don't treat people. Alot of these things are horrific. Murder/Death/Hatecrime/etc are horrible but its cathartic to laugh at them. Its okay to laugh at bad things. (yes, some things aren't funny. there are gonna be bad takes. That's humans nature)
"I've always seen it as a something that shows you basically how NOT to act" nail on the fucking head right there. like,peter is a moron who has done COUNLESS stupid things that ended VERY badly for him (like turning the stairs into a slip-and-slide then getting badly hurt as a result): you're not SUPPOSED to be like him or any other character in the show because it's just an adult cartoon and as an adult you SHOULD know better. i honestly pity anyone that actually idolizes anyone in this show...like,the baby once tried to kill a sperm cell (and failed). it's NOT supposed to be that serious.
Family Guy will always be funny, I laughed at all of those controversial stuff, I understand why people get offended by them, but its like you said, satire
It's honestly depressing when you realize Brenda has passed away. In one episode from the recent seasons, there's a scene where Peter is in a coma after getting into a car wreck and sees this big boat full of characters who passed away. Angela, Quagmires girlfriend from the James Woods two part episode, Diane and even Jeff. If you look in the background, you'll see Brenda. So now I speculate she possibly took her life due to the fact she was too codependent on Jeff moreso because she was pregnant or because she suffered from mental illness and or PTSD from having to deal with him for so long. It was really sad
@@nicodemusseiber6716 I'm not sure. I don't remember who played Jeff and Brenda. I know that little guy who used to play the piano and Stewie killed him was on the boat as well iirc.
The thing is that is hypocrital considering how similar of show that is in South Park because they did jokes that are way worst than Family guy. That just makes me question their egos
@@kevodecha That just makes them look jealous that they have a new kid on the block that gets attention as much as you, but when he gets your fans it makes you angry. The thing about South Park I never understand is how they never get threatened for cancelation for their racist, Sexist, and lbgbq jokes, but Family guy causes a uproar?
Im a woman who has a disability and I’ve been watching Family Guy for years. I have no problem with this show making jokes about people with disabilities, because the show makes fun of everyone and everything.
I absolutely love the cutaways. I personally don't mind the LGBTQ jokes and I've seen others of the community find them funny as well but to each their own. The Simpsons one is hilarious
Honestly, as a trans person myself I think the introduction of Ida was actually pretty well handled. It literally covered what a LOT of trans people go through and wasn't subtle about how Transphobic people can be. And the fact that Ida, the entire time, never stops being herself, never considers going back and puts her foot down with her own son was BEAUTIFUL. "Love me for who I am and accept that I'm finally happy, or lose me forever" was something a lot of trans people are afraid of having to do. I've known too many people who de-transitioned because they figured making everyone else happy was better than being happy themselves. I genuinely think "Quagmire's Dad" handled things perfectly. And yes, sometimes they go way too far, sometimes their jokes are there purely to be offensive and "that's the joke" ... but if only the writers and douchebags are laughing, you're telling the wrong jokes. I haven't seen any of the later episodes [I believe the season where Cleveland returns is the last I've personally seen] but I think that episode with the introduction of Ida was one of the best on handling Trans people. Because it throws the Transphobia right up there, it doesn't have a song and dance of someone "Kind of a lil off put" who comes around like a lot of other shows do. Too many shows that try to do some story on being trans usually make it a fantasy. "Everyone is so happy for you, and supports you! Except Dave, but by the end of the episode Dave will be the biggest supporter of all!!" - Like no, that's not real. What happens in that episode is REAL [sadly] and honestly. Other than how quick Ida's turn around is but .. I digress. Plus, it gave pretty real reactions, not only the Griffin's kind of being terrible as usual - but Quagmire. That was some of the biggest and best growth he's had. And his reaction was perfect. He's angry, and confused. He yells at Ida, he demands to know how HE is supposed to feel about it. "What am I supposed to call you?!" How about Ida? Like, that was poetry. Now sure, it didn't cover the real dangers that can go into it - no one attacks Ida or beats her up for being trans. But the way they show Peter and Lois behaving is pretty realistic. They way Quagmire reacts is pretty realistic. The growth to show that, hey, male or female, this person is someone who matters to me - their legacy isn't erased just because their body has changed. I love this person, and their happiness matters to me, so despite not being 100% sure how to handle this, I'm going to do my best going forward to make them happy. Hell until he learns that it's Brian [[and even a bit after if we're honest]] - Quagmire is even happy his dad found someone and is dating them. I just personally think that episode was actually great - yes they do take unnecessary shots at it, the throwing up gag I literally always scrub through because it's tired - buuuuuuut ... yeah I've known guys who react that way. Actually, that's pretty much why Blair White says that if you're trans, you say that LONG BEFORE you get that fair with a person, even if it's the first night. Because yeah, some guys might just be like Brian, others might attack you for "tricking them" or worse, endanger everyone in your household because you "tricked" them and no one in the house stopped you. [Major eye roll, but sadly how people react]
@Bitch Titters Yeah - I covered this myself by saying "What happens in that episode is REAL [sadly] and honest. Other than how quick Ida's turn around is but .. I digress." -- I mean it is a cartoon, Darth is right. Transitions are slow and painful and drag on. From what I saw of the clip above Peter's is equally fast. But it's a cartoon, and with a 22 minute run time on average, it'd be unrealistic to draw it out - unless Brian was going to be away for a few years there was no way he'd see that. Now yes, if it was a different cartoon, it may well have had several seasons of her transitioning - however, it's not. I mean, as Darth also says "Suspension of Disbelief" -- I mean, Bonnie was pregnant for like 10 years of the show and then has a totally healthy, normal weight and sized baby. And in the show they call out the time frame, so can't just write that off as those 10 years happening in 1 year of the cartoon character's lives or anything like that. And I also think it's totally fine if you personally cannot get past the transphobia, I do think that a lot of people can't .. . and granted, I've not seen some of the later seasons where they dive into this topic and character again, however - the episodes I saw with her were handled so well. And the transphobia in the show is realistically portrayed [without crossing into the violence aspect] and she handles herself amazingly. And I sincerely think the "Take me as I am, or you're going to have to lose me forever" statement to her own son added to the "What do I call you?!" How about Ida? ["How about my name?"] retorts are perfect. It's also /Family Guy/ - if we expected them to handle things perfectly we'd be laughed at for thinking a show like this could. Hell I think if they DID the show would be quickly canceled for the viewership dropping. No one watches South Park or Family Guy [or American Dad or Simpsons] for how they "Tactfully handle hot button issues" ... and if they do ... maybe find different shows to watch because yikes.
idk seth macfarlane doesn’t have a good track record w his ideas on trans ppl, both the cleveland show and family guy use the word transvestite a lot. -a fellow trans person
@@miloshroom1 This is true, but remember he's not the only person working on that show - and transvestite is a term some people do still use [self-identifiers I mean]. But yeah Seth's bs himself aside - there is other things to consider and going on the episode alone is where I made my position since it was specifically the one mentioned.
@@MysticalWizard101 1. Feeling like I was born the wrong gender and never really aligning with anyone of my birth gender in a way that other people felt with theirs. Like, my older brother clicked with guys and understands them. I clicked with guys and understand them, I RARELY click with girls in a way that I felt like I belonged. I always felt like an outsider to all non-Tomboy girls. And even then I felt like I couldn't relate. 2. Yes. There is nothing else needed to be said here. Yes is the only answer. 3. Of course, my mother is LGBT, most of my friends are and a lot of people I know are. It's usually LGBT people who forget what the damn T stands for - and sadly, I find the most hate comes from Lesbians [I've been told by a few that "pretty girls like you should stop "wanting to be men" .." = - = I'm not pretty and that makes me feel gross.] but I've found the most support coming from Gay Men. A lot of my friends are gay men and they support me wanting to transition, my lesbian stepmom is very "I call it like I see it, if it has X parts, it's X gender - even if they transition", she's not very supportive [despite following a bunch of trans influencers] -- she often laments that it's "Not fair so many GUYS pass as girls" -yuck- and my lesbian mother [her wife] is like "I just want people to be happy, what they do doesn't affect me, so I don't care." and she's very supportive of trans people. I support LGBTQ+ because the T in that stands for Trans, and I'm a part of the community. [Plus outside of being trans I'm LGBT anyway]. However, LGBT isn't like being Republican or Democrat or Antifa or w/e, it's not a choice to be a part of it. It's not an organization or a group, it's just a label for a community of people. So saying "The recent LGBTQ haave shown questionable decisions" -- any group/community/etc as big as LGBT is going to show questionable choices among it's individuals, as a whole, the progress is still there. Because the way you say "some are using the group to push personal agendas, and done nasty things to ruin how LGBT+ are looked at" ... yeah, so have pretty much those of any major religion, belief system, government and pretty much anything else. I mean when we see a government do bad we go "Well can you support the people of that country when their government is crap?" yes. Yes I can. I can support my fellow Americans while knowing out Government is absolutely terrible. I can support Christians while knowing some big mouthed Christians are pushing their very anti-LGBT and anti-women agendas and making everyone else look bad [the sad thing is how much support they have but I digress] but that doesn't make me go "All Christians are the problem" - same with LGBT. 4. It depends. Some are genuinely supportive, you can usually tell. Did they go rainbow and do literally nothing else for Pride Month? They're not supportive. Did they go rainbow AND tell haters to get bent AND donate money to LGBTQIA+ organizations like the Trevor Project / Work with LGBT+ creators to make the content used to make the donations? They're more likely to be supportive. 5. Again, it depends. Truly "woke" movies are probably garbage. Pandering garbage meant to look woke and be good, and they're trash. But genuinely woke media can be decent. Basically, if you see a social justice warrior saying to see it and change your mind, it's probably trash. 6. Yes. But also no. I think that media pushes a false narrative while covering the struggles and make being trans seem as simple as going "I'm trans" and then ... usually being terrible according to most media. But I also think media [not news media] makes it seem like it's an easy call and so quick of a turn around instead of years of therapy and expensive, painful surgeries. Plus the massive loss of people you loved and held dear. 7. It is difficult, and I think the people that want to kill trans people just for being trans does make it harder. And that so many people in the LGBT community are anti-trans doesn't help either. And that's ignoring the people who wouldn't kill you, but would let you die because you're an abomonation in their eyes and ... yeah it's quite difficult. I think it does vary on where you live and what access you have, like in Turkey you'll possibly be murdered, but in places in Europe you'll probably have a safe transition and be accepted more easily, ya know? 8. It depends, some people are super up their own a$$ about what it means to be trans. I've had 3 "Trans" partners in my life. One that stated they were trans when I found out they lied about their gender [online dating] but after we broke it off never claimed to be trans again and is cisgendered now. One that was so specific on how I should transition [cut your hair short, grow a beard, dress this way, etc] but didn't want to follow any of that for herself [grow your hair out, shave, wax, dress this way, etc] and that was pretty difficult. My current partner is pretty supportive of me and I support him too. It's been easy with him because we've had a lot of similar experiences and fear of coming out etc. 9. I personally don't believe so. I think it's fine to want to date women but be off put by transwomen. You can't control your sexuality. It's always funny to me that people who are all about "Support me and my struggles!" will also tell people theirs are invalid. "Support X sexuality ... but not that one, because I personally don't get to be with those people and I want to, so it's unfair to me >(" ... that's how it comes across. Besides, why would you WANT to date someone who isn't attracted to you? And if they're otherwise totally supportive and fine with trans people, they're not transphobic. I mean that's like asking if it's homophobic for a straight man to not want to date a drag queen. No? [Okay not exactly but still]. He's straight, he can't change that. Even if that drag queen makes a 100% convincing woman. Ya know? ... again not the best example buuuut 10. This one is tricky for me, because the best results come from starting hormones before the natural ones take over [i.e before puberty] but ... then there is a lot of debate about truly knowing yourself and everything. And some kids can misunderstand their feelings [example: I've seen one who thought because boys had it easier than her [in her opinion] that she'd have it easier to be a boy. So she convinced herself that since she was a tomboy anyway, she was a boy. She now is stuck with a deep, male voice despite de-transitioning because it was a misunderstanding on her part and she started really young [under 10 I believe].]. BUT I think if they've worked with therapists and are confirmed to have dysphoria, it wouldn't hurt to start some of their transition, but not the surgeries. They're dangerous enough on adults, I imagine they'd be worse on child. 11. It's not. It's a straight relationship. Unless one of them isn't straight - that is. Heteronormative or Hetero-appearing isn't just hetero. Like a bisexual guy dating a bisexual girl isn't a "Straight relationship" - because they're not straight people. IF that makes sense? 12. No ... they/them has been a singular pronoun pretty much since the dawn of English. When you don't know someone's gender and your friend is like "Oh the Landlord called" you go "What did THEY say?" You don't ASSUME it's 2 or more landlords, you know it's just ONE landlord. Best example of singular meaning to the they/them pronoun. 13. If you're going to the bathroom for any other purpose than to use the bathroom for what it's for, you don't belong in a bathroom. Period. Gender is irrelevant. 14. No. Next question. 15. No, but they're a dick if they're doing the opposite on purpose. It'd be like me calling you an IT or if you're male and I call you a SHE in a mean way. that's a dick move. If I tell you my pronouns are he/him and you're like "Alright little girl" you're a dick. And while I won't force you to use my pronouns, you will let an entire chat or room of people know you're a dick and I won't associate. 16. I personally don't care for the Xem/Xim etc pronouns - but to each their own. I think if you say something is your genuine pronouns because that makes YOU comfortable, then all I can say is I'll try to remember and use them properly. But if you're doing it to be edgy, or SO QUIRKY ...just ...just stop. 17. Hate to break it to you but ... they don't cut it off. They turn it inside out. 18. I mean ... it depends on your definition of "Support" - if you mean Accepting and paying for them and backing them entirely, not necessarily? Liiike ... this is a loaded question, but so long as you're not trying to HURT trans people [or any one else you don't "Support" that isn't hurting anyone else] then I guess it's okay? And by hurt I mean: physically, or making their life harder, or picking laws and stuff to ban their existence [tf is wrong with you?] etc. Not just physically harm. 19. No. 20. It depends on the person, some people make a genuine mistake. This is why I personally think therapy is a major thing needed in transitioning. I've known too many people [personally and stories] that made a mistake. They misunderstood how they felt and had no one to help them navigate and be sure they weren't in the wrong. One was someone who has the same mental illness/problem? idk what to call it, but that drives people to keep getting plastic surgery because they're NEVER Happy with how they look because they're ALWAYS sure it's still wrong/bad/ugly/etc that led her to transition and now she's de-transitioning [still uses she/her pronouns atm so I'm using them] because she feels she was a man all along. To me personally, at least right now [who knows, I've not started a proper transition yet and don't have proper therapy atm] I am happy.
I didnt think Seth's comment on the southpark matt and tray is misplaced, if they could see family guy as lazy, hes responding lazily as well, its less about proving their point but more about proving their point doesnt matter, them having relationship as a joke had always been family guy joke, it barely matters
Personally, my biggest issue with Family Guy's offensive humor is that, for the overwhelming majority of the jokes, the punchline is simply "it's offensive", rather than having any sort of tact or subtlety to it. Plain and simple, like so much allegedly-"adult" animation, it is juvenile and, on many occasions, goes beyond simply pushing the boundaries and straight to insulting the people involved. I find the Down Syndrome/Sarah Palin situation to be the most emblematic of this, as the entire crux of the joke is "Her kid has Down Syndrome! Laugh at her!" Don't get me wrong. I love dark, offensive, and shock humor-"The Aristocrats" joke is one of my favorite comedy bits of all time. However, it has to be done right, and for the overwhelming majority of its jokes, Family Guy simply doesn't.
You've perfectly explained what I've found off-putting about Family Guy's offensive jokes. Before I couldn't even put my finger on why, but you've cleared it all up.
If you want to survive in edgy comedy...the #1 rule is that you have to make fun of EVERYONE, not just select groups. Family Guy does this which is why it has survived so long.
Fr That's why they are goated, they target everyone including themselves. Steph doesn't believe in a God and in one of the episodes Peter asked God if atheist can go to heaven and he replies "No, down to the deepest part of hell"
I remember when the Brian dead controversy 1st started. people in my classroom thought that the actor who played him died and that's why they did it, not realizing that it's Seth McFarland that voices Brian🤣🤣🤣
Seth MacFarlane is no longer involved with the writing of the show. Since Fox keeps renewing the show against his own need, he's worked on his live action show like the Orville
Exactly. People keep acting like Seth is to blame for the series downfall, when really he hasn't written for the show since 2010. He admits that all he does now is the voice acting. Even HE is over it, and wants to move on. He is still executive producer as he is the shows creator, but the most he does to keep that title is probably thumbs through the script and says "looks good, now let's make some stupid voices so I can get back to making The Orville".
Very well put together. Now I am curious about this same topic with the other long running animated series like King of the Hill, Futurama, The Simpsons, South Park etc.
I think even though they touch very sensitive topics, it also realistic shows how some people deal with them, and in the end, they suffer from the sequences, and the characters are called out
"When you Wish upon a Weinstine" is just so quaint now. It's incredibly tame, even for early Family Guy standards and the only small adjustment they made when it finally aired was changing Peter's "Even though they killed my Lord" to "I don't think they killed my Lord." Yet, you look at the one where Lois was revealed to be Jewish all along, even bringing back Max, and it's balls to the wall. That said, I'm surprised the episode where Stewie inseminates himself with Brian's DNA isn't featured. Even I found that episode went too far, but then again it was all worth it for that mutant hybrid baby scene at the end. Though I think they could have had that scene with a much less disgusting premise.
Yes i know i mean the lyrics of family guy had already revealed the part (make us laugh and cry) it was obvious that in some point we were meant to see a sad scene
The day before that happened there were things all over the place talking about how bad of a character he was You know what was all over the place after he died?
I'm here to support Lydia and her efforts to cover the zany, crazy controversies in Family Guy! Someone has too! While many can be funny, it's the sheer amount of shock humor that makes one turn and say" Can you believe they did that?!"
The only thing I'm shocked they did was the episode about stewie making himself pregnant. That episode was disturbing for so many reasons. Idk how that was agreed to air
I’m glad Patrick Warburton spoke up about some of the controversies. He’s one of my favourite actors right now and the best thing to ever come out of family guy!
Wish he'd speak up about how they took his character from badass in a wheelchair that's so full of adrenaline he constantly shouts to the pathetic cripple who talks like an old woman. I miss Adrenaline Joe.
@@mightyfilm yeah me too. But remember the episode in season 6 where he got surgery and could finally walk again and was acting like a jerk to everyone and made new friends? Peter, Cleveland and quagmire weren’t having it at all!
I don't think that was the reason for the writers just turning Joe into the Meg of his group. The character used to be all about, yeah he's disabled but he makes up for it by having more energy and boisterousness than anyone else in the show. Now the character's all about making him a joke BECAUSE he's disabled and somehow making him an old granny for some reason. Plus, I miss Joe's sudden bursts of extremely loud exclamations. You have Warburton playing the character, might as well get the most Warburton out of him. I want to see some of that Brock Samson/Kronk energy back in the character.
I'm glad you posted this because I mean I'm aware of most of these but I actually completely forgot about the Terri schiavo one. But I'm glad you ended it with that double dribble one. I mean that one is just so hilarious and actually happened but I'm glad it got so quickly resolved. It's interesting how that didn't happen to the tecmo Super bowl video that Family Guy took in that episode as well.
If I'm remembering correctly, wasn't the real issue of the Terri Schiavo controversy because she had actually succeeded in being able to breathe and be fed without artificial assistance, but her ex somehow had wrestled decision-making from her parents, and forced the doctors to stop feeding her?
I was forced to deal with abuse at a young and through my 20 it mess me up pretty bad but when I saw the elephant joke about abuse and the abuser ep it made me laugh the whole killing thing was out there but I remember wishing this type of stuff really happen to get me out of the situation I finds these episodes to fine mostly cuz it is just mindless jokes and you shouldn't take everything so seriously in life and also with the abusers stuff how a person in their young adults years can feel trapped and like everyone knows but no one willing to help! imagining someone anyone! coming to save you is a type of cope with the situation and its normal
In Screams of Silence Joe said he can't arrest Jeff unless Brenda files a formal complaint to the police, but what Joe just said is absolutely not true for exactly the scenario they're conveying. Friends & family of the victim have the right to report the abuse if they are straight up seeing the abuse, this would be more understandable if the abuse was occuring behind closed doors.
Even with all the controversies and low points that Family Guy has gotten over the years, I'll still remain a fan of the series. Also, will you do a video discussion on Beavis and Butthead?
I always interpreted the South Park beef as Matt and Trey seeing how smart, well-written, and funny, family guy CAN be if they consistently put in the effort. They look at how skilled and talented Seth is, they see the moments where his work really shines, and then it’s immediately beaten at the knees with something lazy, meaningless, or unfunny. “Why can’t you be this good all the time??” Kinda thing. They hate FG because they know how good it CAN and chooses NOT to be
Do they know that American dad exists and try to put 2 and 2 together? If family guy didn't have all these controversies, it won't be a great show and American dad would have been useless
It’s funny how Partial Terms of Endearment, AKA the best episode of Family Guy, got banned, yet Screams of Silence, Seahorse Seashell Party, Fresh Heir, and the Post Brian Death Arc roam free… what a society.
How wouldn’t? he was one of my favourite characters with stewie, I love the fact that he is miserable all the time and try to not look like a jerk and a loser when he in fact is and know it.
Regarding the episode with Ida's transition, while the characters behave in transphobic ways at times, if you actually watch the episode all the way through, I'm not sure how you could come out of it with any other message than "trans people should be accepted".
I dunno, I've never liked the "offense is the joke" explanation. I get dark humor and pushing boundaries, but as I get older and well mature I can see why a lot of these happened and can honestly even agree with at least a few of them. Offense for the sake of offense isn't funny. There's ways to poke at sensitive subjects but still respect their seriousness and Family Guy just lacks any hint of respect (to the point of seeming almost gleefully cruel at times) for most of the issues they joke about.
right. there are soooo many ways to make entertaining and funny jokes about say gay and trans people. but if the joke itself is that they exist, idk, theres just nothing really funny about that. its offensive but that isnt even the worst thing about that kind of joke, the worst thing is that theres simply no humor inherent in the existence of queer people. a great comparison is between the scene at the gay camp vs quagmires mom. the man at the gay camp is affected and stereotypically gay but he's used to joke about the other men not really being stright (like most victims of anti-gay camps tend to be). with quagmires mom though, the joke is that shes disgusting. thats not saying anything witty or clever, thats just regurgitating what have been very mainstream opinions for a long time up until now.
I agree that the murder/death/disease jokes hit different as I get older… but I’m the same person to make sexist jokes towards women because the joke is ‘it’s obviously a stupid comment to make’. I make gay jokes as a bi woman for the same reason.🤷🏻♀️ comedy is definitely subjective
Yeah another person made a similar point on how they used to have actual punchlines for their dark jokes but eventually the punchlines were literally just about being offensive which like the person said, isn’t funny it’s genuinely just offensive rather than dark humour that ppl it may apply too can actually laugh at
I actually enjoy family guy way more than south park because of the gags. South park goes above and beyond with their jokes so much that it is way to rich for me. Family guys is just right to make me laugh or chuckle at times which is just perfect
With the episode “when you wish upon a Weinstein” I feel like the joke was more aiming at peters stupidity rather then disparaging people of Jewish faith.
It's always the parents, they blame shows,TV , Videogames, Anime, and Social Media but not themselves. All children deserve parents but not all people deserve kidsm
Lowkey I wanna see a video where people talk about family guys hatred (or seemingly hatred) towards bob's burgers. I love bob's burgers a lot but family guy seems to have a small grudge against them which was shown at the end of an episode (I forgot the name) where peters says "I hope you enjoy this crossover episode with the cast of bob's burgers" and it zooms out to show the belcher family standing in the living room then peter proceeds to talk mess to them saying "give us two Emmys worth of humor" and something like "anything? Girl with the bunny ears? Man I love it when characters are expressed with props" then bob chimes in saying "this feels like less of a crossover and more of a roast" then peter replies with "no a roast is light hearted" it comes off as salty as hell so I wanna know more about their small feud Edit: also note that the entire episode wasn't about a crossover between the two at all it was just jammed in at the very end
I always thought it came from Family Guy character just hating the fact that the cast of Bob's Burgers can make there own original funny jokes and Bob's Burgers not having to abuse any of the family members
In my opinion I think Matt and Trey are jerks because they got a lot of nerve to criticize the writing a family Guy considering South Park's writing is based on the Hot topic. Which goes to show you how immature Matt and Trey are
@@KeithMcormack895 yes southpark has some amazing episodes including the specials but I do criticize the show for having most of their plot be based on what's going on in the world instead of just focus on being original story about the boys
I am gay and tbh family guys gay jokes don't really upset me the gay aboriginal is probably my favorite gag ever everyone gets ribbed in family guy so it's best to remember not to take it to serious
4:36 The lawsuit against fox for the copyright of "when you wish upon a star" was a good example of a case of transformative fair use. That is why the judge ruled in favor of family guy, because parodies and satire adds so much different meaning or a new meaning to the copyrighted material 😅
Wanna know something even more depressing about Quagmire’s sister? In the episode, Coma Guy, while Peter’s in a coma and about to board the boat which is filled with every character that has died on the show (basically a metaphor for him almost dying), you can see Brenda as one of the passangers on board, implying that she died at some point. It’s genuinely sad because not only was she in an abusive relationship, and not only did she only separate because her boyfriend “broke up”, but the final nail in the coffin is that she somehow died, probably not even fully recovered from that.
Great breakdown, as a casual viewer I had no idea about all these controversies. Great video, and after finding your channel only last night I can already say I'm hooked. You're thorough, animated, the editing and explanations are great, and your avatars rock!
Meg getting abused every opportunity (i.e whenever. Milla Kunis has time to be on the show) is such a normal thing that I completely miss the parallel with her and Quagmire's Sister.
Matt and Trey admitted their hatred towards Family Guy is completely one-sided. I don't get why they hate Seth so much. I don't even think Seth has even met them before. I feel like the beef is silly, they are both great shows.
Because they saw Family Guy taking a portion of their audience and become just as, if not more popular and they got jealous and butthurt. That's pretty much the gist of it
@@jakobwedel3168South Park is way more popular than family guy. It’s also well written unlike cutaway gags. That’s why people talk about the newer South Park seasons and the only thing people mention about family guy is how boring and repetitive it is
Good Bad Flicks put it best "Controversy sells."I would add to this that there's no such thing as bad publicity for a show like this.If they wanted to mock Palin then why not mock her for being a conservative who was too busy to teach her oldest daughter to not do certain things mainly getting herself knocked up out of wedlock and glamorizing it.
I used to hate the episode with Quagmire's sister, but lately I guess my sense of humor has warped so much I can understand and laugh with the writers on the messed up joke they were going for in that episode
Sounds like the South Park creators may be harboring some secret envy under the guise of animosity. Also, why would the team at The Simpsons do a joint episode with Family Guy if they share that "animosity"? Seth is crazy but he's brilliant
Because Family Guy was crazy popular that time. Simpsons was loosing its popularity and Family Guy was everywhere. And South Park wasn’t even on a TV channel. So they felt jealous I guess 😂
Exactly! Family guy was mopping the floor with those shows during the 00s. Literally got brought back due to reruns and DVD sales. So clearly enough people enjoyed family guy. The cutaways are supposed to be absurd that’s what made them so good in the beginning. South Park does over the top edgy humor the same way they claimed family guy just used cutaways.
The PTC also hated the WWF during the Attitude Era in the late ’90s and very early 2000s. The WWF responded by creating a stable called Right to Censor (RTC), which would go around censoring the kind of content that the PTC complained about, and were actually somewhat successful as a team.
Great vid. I was expecting it to be in chronological order and was thrown when it wasn't, but this is very thorough; though I also expected parts about Quagmire being a sexual predator (until recently - they took it from him and spread it over the rest of the cast LMAO) and Seahorse Seashell Party/Meg abuse in general. I suppose you decided to stick to the stuff that made the headlines, or maybe chapters on that would make it more depressing/unmonetizable in general.
I’m trans myself and honestly I never found any of family guys jokes offensive. I actually found them funny, the show literally makes jokes about EVERYONE so for me to be offended over that would be a little stupid , I also grew up joking about my trauma and dark humor so it could just be me 😂
That's why I prefer Family Guy to South Park. I loved South Park as a teenager, but removing the rose tinted glasses; I realised how offensive the show is just for the sake of being offensive. In my opinion, there's a slight sense of tastefulness in Family Guy's humour; which can very much cross the line. Yes, even I think Family Guy has crossed the line on occasion; South Park is, in my opinion; a lot worse.
People have been circlejerking over how great south park is because it "takes shots at everyone" when its a clearly biased show, I mean look at the difference in family guy and south park in portraying transgender people, family guy made Ida a great character who just so happened to be trans while south park constantly punched down with things like Mr. Garrisons sex change ("that would mean I'm just a guy with a mutilated penis") and taking the extreme on the issue of transgender people participating in gender differentiated sports
@@Plsrateeight if letting someone wear women's clothing when theyd otherwise kill themselves is enabling,why the fuck wouldnt you do it other than to intentionally cause someone to kill themselves?
I (as a FG Fan) will say this about about Seth and the Cast's _"It's Just A Joke"_ or _"They Go After Everyone"_ Defense, there has to be something about their gag that's supposed actually to make it funny, and they've been mostly hit or miss (especially in the recent seasons). They've only proved that Matt and Trey are right about them They even did the topic of 'puling the plug' much better.
I appreciate the cutaway style, we all have these tiny things we think are funny that would probably work in a cartoon and family guy is a way to express those tiny things that wouldn’t make an entire episode, but make for good small skits. I can also see why Matt and Trey dislike it from a writers standpoint
21:30 you can find his opinion on the removal in the DVD commentary of either that episode or another later one. I remember him being really upset about how the Simpsons got to keep their joke in and they got censored.
Technically Family Guy set up Brian’s return before he was even seemingly killed off. Before he destroys his time machine, he comments on what he last used it for (to get the hot new Christmas toys early.) And sure enough Stewie and Vinnie see the pre Brian’s death Stewie at the mall just before Christmas. Never hear anyone bring that up. PS: I’m generally not that kind of angry fanboy… but I fking hated Vinnie
Also South Park is probably the only cartoon that could retcon such a misstep that fast with an episode taking almost to at least as long to make as it takes to make an episode of The Simpsons (forgot but it’s in months.) South Park takes 4 days
As a proud member of the LGBTQ+ community I laughed so hard at it. I understand that it’s dark humor but it’s not a kids show it’s for mature audiences don’t blame family guy for their jokes and humor, parents should regulate what their children watch and not blame the creators and show.
4:04 the thing is, it's canon that Lois mom is Jewish, making Lois Jewish, making all of her children Jewish, according to Jewish law. So meg, Chris and Stewie and lois are all Jews.
My advice to anyone who can’t take a joke at face value and will take Family Guy seriously… just don’t watch it and don’t comment online about how offensive it is and how it takes things too far etc BECAUSE THAT IS THE POINT. No one cares about your opinion on what we find funny because your opinion is not superior to someone else’s.
The problem isn’t that they make these jokes. The problem is that these things happen in real life. We should focus on addressing that instead of canceling a show that’s simply being honest.
Fun fact, the barbershop Quartet aids bit helped me pass high school. I was able to remember which one was the more progressed version of the disease because I didn’t even watch Family Guy but I had seen the bit on the TV once when my sibling was watching it.
The fact that Brian comes back after a couple of episodes makes me really appreciate Vinny. He has his moments when he makes me laugh. And when Stewie realizes he can bring Brian back, then says "Goodbye" to Vinny. It's a really heartwarming moment between them. It shows that they have bonded in the little time they spent together.
It could be seen that way, but the way I saw it (and probably everyone else that was complaining) that she didn't want it because it was made by a Trans person. To be clear I dont think its bad, just explaining it
You’re missing the point. Imagine you get bullied for DECADES by a group of bullies, and then one day they invite you to be apart of the group…. Just to continue to make fun of you. It’s crazy that as soon as people talk about wanting equal treatment, you immediately try to normalize only the BAD treatment. People want respect without being torn down with “jokes” that aren’t jokes to a lot of people.
The reason i watch Family guy is its cutaways. Heres is the thing, when watching south-park or simpsons or any other show , its based on a story line/plot. I know what to expect before diving in those shows. Thats were family guy gets its uniqueness. The fact that most of the jokes are cut-aways makes its extremely unpredictable which inturn keeps me engaged. Yes it has a lot of dark stuffs, but family guy has always been that way and people who cannot take things light-heartedly should not watch the show at the first place. Coz there are no episodes of family guy where you wont encounter a dark or offensive topic.
To be fair. This complaint wasn’t without standing. 2:06 I remember being 5 years old with this exact episode playing and my Dad angrily questioning why that was on when I was just watching ordinary cartoons 10 minutes prior on the same channel. Since Adult Swim usually came on around 10 o clock.
“Prom Night Dumpster Baby” was based on a real event? I just always assumed it was making fun of teen girls having abortions, I thought the prom night part was referring to the circumstances of conception and the “babies” were the personification of the terminated foetuses. Now that I think about it, I can’t imagine a song about abortion making it through Fox’s censors. It actually makes much more sense for it to be based off a literal prom night birth. Not a big fan of Family Guy so I guess I just didn’t think about it before.
Very well put together video. I'm a very die hard fan, even had the DVD sets and I still don't remember the surrogate episode. Definitely sparks conversation at the least. I do remember watching the one with the boston marathon joke, but it was funny at the time because it was prior to the tragedy. But when the bombing happened IRL, I thought family guy had some inside knowledge or it was just a terrible timed coincidence. I'm still not sure.
I don’t mind the offensive/dark humor because that’s what they are, it’s gonna be a thing as always, BUT, my issue is how some of the characters changed compared to season 1-5, to after that, including how the show went downhill (from my view). Even though peter might be a manchild, he doesn’t go out of his way to nearly kill or beat up someone as his character was like Patrick, except he’s more dumb, but at least a comical type of dumb. The thing I hate is that after S5, he starts to do those things and doesn’t see what he’s done as wrong up until all of a sudden he goes, “oh my god lois, you’re right,” and then everyone forgives him like nothing happened. However, to be fair, he’s way better than Lois which I’ll explain next. Lois was a usual supporting house wife who never really flirted with anyone, hell she wasn’t really like how she was afterwards. Also she never really beats up Peter or does something where it gives her some sort of power over her family. Now, she’s pretty much a w**re, she’s abusive, and unlike Peter, she never feels sympathetic nor apologizes afterwards, it just skips those moments like nothing happened. Hell whenever there’s an episode where she’s strong in some way, she always has to beat or abuse Peter/someone in a way like she has power over them. As for Meg, well… I wouldn’t say she was bad, she just became like squidward where she’s always picked on or is like a punching bad. Hell there’s an episode where she stood up for herself and near the end, she forgives them, and you wanna know why? Because APPARENTLY, it’s ok for her to be a punching bag since that lets everyone off their steam onto her… like yeah, it doesn’t make sense, and yet they try to make it seem like it’s an ok situation. Now Brian, I’m just gonna summarize it, he went from a dog who used to be a voice of reason and likable, to being an a**hole. If you think otherwise, he would literally give a kid aids just to teach them a lesson. Also he usually for some reason he always portrays himself as something good, before telling someone something where it contradicts what he “thinks himself” to be. Now as for the show, I’m just gonna try to explain this the best I can, It’s just not like how it was. For some reason they often rely on skits, some Brian & Stewie adventure type of sh*t, or some cutaways. To me, this show was better when it was season 1-5 because you could tell the comedy and jokes are actually good, it wasn’t over the top messed up blood, they literally had an episode where Chris and Peter fight, before deciding to get along by playing golf, but unknowingly accidentally hitting someone with their golf ball, while also focusing on the fact that they are bonding as a father & son. To me, South Park, while also on a long run, is at least bearable to watch since they don’t really rely on characters having a switch into being something they aren’t. Tl;dr, family guy was better in S1-5, the characters had a bad change of personality like SpongeBob’s S1-3, to S4 and after.
Family Guy vs South Park -- Sometimes I want to laugh and I don't mind being preached to so I watch South Park. Other times I just want to relax and watch silly jokes so I watch Family Guy.
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Loved the video up until that Blooms guy got involved. Can’t stand that guy!
Hi there Blooms
Yo wassup blooms
Yeah that guy really grinds my gears!
Me neither
Woah,I just finished watching your video about Garrison lol
I remember either The Simpsons or Family Guy had a quote about how parents shouldn't rely on the TV raising their kids and maybe they should just talk to them
There was a variant of that on Futurama. Bender (talking to parents complaining about their kids imitating what they see on a TV show): "I ask you this one question: Have you ever tried simply turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?"
@@ptorq I was actually just gonna say this, and I really love that line.
Both of the shoes have done their own spin off episodes that are basically about this exact topic of how you shouldn’t rely on TV to raise your kids/family.
Yeah- I LOVE that line. Bcus really?? How can a parent get mad at a show you allow your kids to watch!?
That’s like saying there shouldn’t be porn & liquor bcus you have a kid… how about raise your kid right😂
That was on South Park. In an episode and movie
I love the fact that Lydia has an in universe avatar for ever animated show she covers.
Keep an eye out for my Rugrats, Kim Possible and Arthur avatars
@@LydiaLovesTimelines I'm legit excited to see how you look in the Arthur world
Exactly. Her Fairy Oddparent avatar is downright adorable!
@@LydiaLovesTimelines those sound amazing! Lol. Lydia do you have a patreon?
@@internziko I do, just type in Simpsons Theory Patreon into Google. I always have 2 videos on there that you can watch early
The South Park grudge has been known widely by fans of both shows. However, funny enough, there has been that same level of controversy with The Simpson's as well. Even though Seth and Matt Groening are respectful to each other, their writers and staff had an obvious beef til the crossover happened. Since then, Family Guy has owned up to being inspired; right down to Peter openly admitting " I know we said we borrow a little from the Simpson's....but we borrow ALOT from The Simpsons!"
Some people who used to work on the Simpsons worked on Family Guy.
Yeah the entire cross over was a big joke about how they did ‘copy’ them. It was done well
They say how Family Guy is bad, but from the only episode of South Park I watched the only thing I remember is few gags that are on par with FG
@@realdragonthe argument of gags that family guy relies on is hypocritical coming from south park with how before they stopped in every episode they killed Kenny, there was always the fact of Cartman bringing up Jews or gingers and as of late with Randy's entire persona being surrounded by his weed farm
I think when it comes to the domestic one, seeing the abuser basically crushed to death by quagmire is a lot more satisfying because she was now completely safe knowing he'd never turn up again
She still won't be over the abuse and can find another jeff
@@92JazzQueen or stay single and heal
@@DWboy14 it's still a crap depiction of abuse
Yeah but I would have loved to see Quagmire's Sister crush him to death. It's a situation where she was never going to leave him and the show ends with her distraught that he's gone. I don't know that I liked the episode but that piece of it felt almost too real.
amen to that. i would have been disappointed if it had ended in any other way but the death of that bastard.
Quagmires Dad is a great episode
It's good and realistic for the most part
The part is that they genuinely made Ida the best character on a show because of her genuine life experience and wisdom
That shows me that no matter how she identifies
Shes still the same helpful caring love and intelligent person she always was pre and post transition
Def not the best character lmao
@@Folfah maybe they meant that they made her an actually good person
@@dizzy7291 if thats the case its def true. Started as a joke and ende dup one of the “level headed” people of the show. They use ida for that topic now i suppose.
@@dizzy7291 in this sense yes
She has a great moral compass
Exactly and Ida herself isn't the problem, everyone around her is
"Prom Night Dumpster Baby" is genuinely a bop and no one can tell me otherwise
Those babies sang their little behinds off didn’t they 🤣
My fav song from the show
Its in my top 3 from the show. Song absolutely slapped. I am partial to the Poptart song tho haha.
And I'm out for a stroll..!
@@ScremoNinja Off the top of my head,
This song, Butter on a poptart, Rock/Iraq lobster, My Drunken Irish Dad, and Shapoopie are some of my favorites.
Honestly the first few seasons before they were cancelled family guy was pretty tamed compared to the way it became when it was renewed.
The best family guy was from 2004 - 2011. Old episodes are still good and they occasionally still make good ones but the OTP gore in modern episodes is annoying at times.
The crazy part is, the first few seasons caught a lotta flak too 😭😭 at the time certain people thought the some of the jokes were too sexually explicit
Lol did you watch the dvd versions? They were vile at the start was some good shit
my theory is that they realized way more people watched on adult swim, which is much less strict with censors, than on fox. not to mention its newfound popularity on as is what got fans demanding fox bring it back. so they just decided to do whatever no matter how offensive or wild it was knowing that if it gets censored on fox it'll still air somewhat intact on as and get the same amount if not more viewers anyway.
Listen, as a trans person who's watched family guy for a while, it's a extremely satire show that is NOT to be taken seriously. I've always seen it as a something that shows you basically how NOT to act, It has its good moments but overall, its a joke. Its how you don't react/don't treat people. Alot of these things are horrific. Murder/Death/Hatecrime/etc are horrible but its cathartic to laugh at them. Its okay to laugh at bad things. (yes, some things aren't funny. there are gonna be bad takes. That's humans nature)
"I've always seen it as a something that shows you basically how NOT to act" nail on the fucking head right there. like,peter is a moron who has done COUNLESS stupid things that ended VERY badly for him (like turning the stairs into a slip-and-slide then getting badly hurt as a result): you're not SUPPOSED to be like him or any other character in the show because it's just an adult cartoon and as an adult you SHOULD know better. i honestly pity anyone that actually idolizes anyone in this show...like,the baby once tried to kill a sperm cell (and failed). it's NOT supposed to be that serious.
Family Guy will always be funny, I laughed at all of those controversial stuff, I understand why people get offended by them, but its like you said, satire
for real, im trans and i LOVE family guy, I leave it on in the background when I'm doing a ton of things
It's only offensive if it isn't funny (I think, I'm not qualified)
@@CaptainCat101 it's offensive if it's mean-spirited. Family Guy isn't.
It's honestly depressing when you realize Brenda has passed away. In one episode from the recent seasons, there's a scene where Peter is in a coma after getting into a car wreck and sees this big boat full of characters who passed away. Angela, Quagmires girlfriend from the James Woods two part episode, Diane and even Jeff. If you look in the background, you'll see Brenda. So now I speculate she possibly took her life due to the fact she was too codependent on Jeff moreso because she was pregnant or because she suffered from mental illness and or PTSD from having to deal with him for so long. It was really sad
Brenda was based on a real character? Or are you speculating on how the character died
Aren't those characters memorialized because their voice actor passed?
Wait Brenda Quagmires sister dead we get a chance to see if like her that is just 😔 plus she was with baby 👶
@@madisonwilliamson I was just speculating but she actually did pass when you get a look at the background characters on the boat
@@nicodemusseiber6716 I'm not sure. I don't remember who played Jeff and Brenda. I know that little guy who used to play the piano and Stewie killed him was on the boat as well iirc.
You made the South Park Beef sound like a really expensive dish at a fancy restaurant haha.
😂
The thing is that is hypocrital considering how similar of show that is in South Park because they did jokes that are way worst than Family guy. That just makes me question their egos
@@GodAmbition_1997 // fr, south park isn’t any better at all. it’s hypocritical.
@@kevodecha That just makes them look jealous that they have a new kid on the block that gets attention as much as you, but when he gets your fans it makes you angry. The thing about South Park I never understand is how they never get threatened for cancelation for their racist, Sexist, and lbgbq jokes, but Family guy causes a uproar?
@@GodAmbition_1997 all facts
Im a woman who has a disability and I’ve been watching Family Guy for years. I have no problem with this show making jokes about people with disabilities, because the show makes fun of everyone and everything.
I absolutely love the cutaways. I personally don't mind the LGBTQ jokes and I've seen others of the community find them funny as well but to each their own. The Simpsons one is hilarious
i've seen actual gay people act EXACTLY like some of the joke gays in the show so i think it's fair game at that point.
Ok even the blk jokes r funny too I'm gay n blk n most r 🤣
i'm queer and a lot of the gay jokes in FG give me a good chuckle ngl. the show is just so damn goofy i can't feel bothered by it for the most part. 😂
@@AoiUsagiOtoko right
Well said and I agree completely~!!
I'm sorry, but Quagmire's face at 0:15 got me laughing! 😂😂
Honestly, as a trans person myself I think the introduction of Ida was actually pretty well handled. It literally covered what a LOT of trans people go through and wasn't subtle about how Transphobic people can be. And the fact that Ida, the entire time, never stops being herself, never considers going back and puts her foot down with her own son was BEAUTIFUL. "Love me for who I am and accept that I'm finally happy, or lose me forever" was something a lot of trans people are afraid of having to do. I've known too many people who de-transitioned because they figured making everyone else happy was better than being happy themselves. I genuinely think "Quagmire's Dad" handled things perfectly. And yes, sometimes they go way too far, sometimes their jokes are there purely to be offensive and "that's the joke" ... but if only the writers and douchebags are laughing, you're telling the wrong jokes. I haven't seen any of the later episodes [I believe the season where Cleveland returns is the last I've personally seen] but I think that episode with the introduction of Ida was one of the best on handling Trans people. Because it throws the Transphobia right up there, it doesn't have a song and dance of someone "Kind of a lil off put" who comes around like a lot of other shows do. Too many shows that try to do some story on being trans usually make it a fantasy. "Everyone is so happy for you, and supports you! Except Dave, but by the end of the episode Dave will be the biggest supporter of all!!" - Like no, that's not real. What happens in that episode is REAL [sadly] and honestly. Other than how quick Ida's turn around is but .. I digress.
Plus, it gave pretty real reactions, not only the Griffin's kind of being terrible as usual - but Quagmire. That was some of the biggest and best growth he's had. And his reaction was perfect. He's angry, and confused. He yells at Ida, he demands to know how HE is supposed to feel about it. "What am I supposed to call you?!" How about Ida?
Like, that was poetry.
Now sure, it didn't cover the real dangers that can go into it - no one attacks Ida or beats her up for being trans. But the way they show Peter and Lois behaving is pretty realistic. They way Quagmire reacts is pretty realistic. The growth to show that, hey, male or female, this person is someone who matters to me - their legacy isn't erased just because their body has changed. I love this person, and their happiness matters to me, so despite not being 100% sure how to handle this, I'm going to do my best going forward to make them happy.
Hell until he learns that it's Brian [[and even a bit after if we're honest]] - Quagmire is even happy his dad found someone and is dating them. I just personally think that episode was actually great - yes they do take unnecessary shots at it, the throwing up gag I literally always scrub through because it's tired - buuuuuuut ... yeah I've known guys who react that way. Actually, that's pretty much why Blair White says that if you're trans, you say that LONG BEFORE you get that fair with a person, even if it's the first night. Because yeah, some guys might just be like Brian, others might attack you for "tricking them" or worse, endanger everyone in your household because you "tricked" them and no one in the house stopped you. [Major eye roll, but sadly how people react]
I always wondered how some transfolks saw Ida. I just think she's neat. I guess her introduction episode was just way too realistic for some people :)
@Bitch Titters Yeah - I covered this myself by saying "What happens in that episode is REAL [sadly] and honest. Other than how quick Ida's turn around is but .. I digress." -- I mean it is a cartoon, Darth is right. Transitions are slow and painful and drag on. From what I saw of the clip above Peter's is equally fast. But it's a cartoon, and with a 22 minute run time on average, it'd be unrealistic to draw it out - unless Brian was going to be away for a few years there was no way he'd see that. Now yes, if it was a different cartoon, it may well have had several seasons of her transitioning - however, it's not. I mean, as Darth also says "Suspension of Disbelief" -- I mean, Bonnie was pregnant for like 10 years of the show and then has a totally healthy, normal weight and sized baby. And in the show they call out the time frame, so can't just write that off as those 10 years happening in 1 year of the cartoon character's lives or anything like that.
And I also think it's totally fine if you personally cannot get past the transphobia, I do think that a lot of people can't .. . and granted, I've not seen some of the later seasons where they dive into this topic and character again, however - the episodes I saw with her were handled so well. And the transphobia in the show is realistically portrayed [without crossing into the violence aspect] and she handles herself amazingly. And I sincerely think the "Take me as I am, or you're going to have to lose me forever" statement to her own son added to the "What do I call you?!" How about Ida? ["How about my name?"] retorts are perfect. It's also /Family Guy/ - if we expected them to handle things perfectly we'd be laughed at for thinking a show like this could. Hell I think if they DID the show would be quickly canceled for the viewership dropping. No one watches South Park or Family Guy [or American Dad or Simpsons] for how they "Tactfully handle hot button issues" ... and if they do ... maybe find different shows to watch because yikes.
idk seth macfarlane doesn’t have a good track record w his ideas on trans ppl, both the cleveland show and family guy use the word transvestite a lot. -a fellow trans person
@@miloshroom1 This is true, but remember he's not the only person working on that show - and transvestite is a term some people do still use [self-identifiers I mean]. But yeah Seth's bs himself aside - there is other things to consider and going on the episode alone is where I made my position since it was specifically the one mentioned.
@@MysticalWizard101 1. Feeling like I was born the wrong gender and never really aligning with anyone of my birth gender in a way that other people felt with theirs. Like, my older brother clicked with guys and understands them. I clicked with guys and understand them, I RARELY click with girls in a way that I felt like I belonged. I always felt like an outsider to all non-Tomboy girls. And even then I felt like I couldn't relate.
2. Yes. There is nothing else needed to be said here. Yes is the only answer.
3. Of course, my mother is LGBT, most of my friends are and a lot of people I know are. It's usually LGBT people who forget what the damn T stands for - and sadly, I find the most hate comes from Lesbians [I've been told by a few that "pretty girls like you should stop "wanting to be men" .." = - = I'm not pretty and that makes me feel gross.] but I've found the most support coming from Gay Men. A lot of my friends are gay men and they support me wanting to transition, my lesbian stepmom is very "I call it like I see it, if it has X parts, it's X gender - even if they transition", she's not very supportive [despite following a bunch of trans influencers] -- she often laments that it's "Not fair so many GUYS pass as girls" -yuck- and my lesbian mother [her wife] is like "I just want people to be happy, what they do doesn't affect me, so I don't care." and she's very supportive of trans people. I support LGBTQ+ because the T in that stands for Trans, and I'm a part of the community. [Plus outside of being trans I'm LGBT anyway]. However, LGBT isn't like being Republican or Democrat or Antifa or w/e, it's not a choice to be a part of it. It's not an organization or a group, it's just a label for a community of people. So saying "The recent LGBTQ haave shown questionable decisions" -- any group/community/etc as big as LGBT is going to show questionable choices among it's individuals, as a whole, the progress is still there. Because the way you say "some are using the group to push personal agendas, and done nasty things to ruin how LGBT+ are looked at" ... yeah, so have pretty much those of any major religion, belief system, government and pretty much anything else. I mean when we see a government do bad we go "Well can you support the people of that country when their government is crap?" yes. Yes I can. I can support my fellow Americans while knowing out Government is absolutely terrible. I can support Christians while knowing some big mouthed Christians are pushing their very anti-LGBT and anti-women agendas and making everyone else look bad [the sad thing is how much support they have but I digress] but that doesn't make me go "All Christians are the problem" - same with LGBT.
4. It depends. Some are genuinely supportive, you can usually tell. Did they go rainbow and do literally nothing else for Pride Month? They're not supportive. Did they go rainbow AND tell haters to get bent AND donate money to LGBTQIA+ organizations like the Trevor Project / Work with LGBT+ creators to make the content used to make the donations? They're more likely to be supportive.
5. Again, it depends. Truly "woke" movies are probably garbage. Pandering garbage meant to look woke and be good, and they're trash. But genuinely woke media can be decent. Basically, if you see a social justice warrior saying to see it and change your mind, it's probably trash.
6. Yes. But also no. I think that media pushes a false narrative while covering the struggles and make being trans seem as simple as going "I'm trans" and then ... usually being terrible according to most media. But I also think media [not news media] makes it seem like it's an easy call and so quick of a turn around instead of years of therapy and expensive, painful surgeries. Plus the massive loss of people you loved and held dear.
7. It is difficult, and I think the people that want to kill trans people just for being trans does make it harder. And that so many people in the LGBT community are anti-trans doesn't help either. And that's ignoring the people who wouldn't kill you, but would let you die because you're an abomonation in their eyes and ... yeah it's quite difficult. I think it does vary on where you live and what access you have, like in Turkey you'll possibly be murdered, but in places in Europe you'll probably have a safe transition and be accepted more easily, ya know?
8. It depends, some people are super up their own a$$ about what it means to be trans. I've had 3 "Trans" partners in my life. One that stated they were trans when I found out they lied about their gender [online dating] but after we broke it off never claimed to be trans again and is cisgendered now. One that was so specific on how I should transition [cut your hair short, grow a beard, dress this way, etc] but didn't want to follow any of that for herself [grow your hair out, shave, wax, dress this way, etc] and that was pretty difficult. My current partner is pretty supportive of me and I support him too. It's been easy with him because we've had a lot of similar experiences and fear of coming out etc.
9. I personally don't believe so. I think it's fine to want to date women but be off put by transwomen. You can't control your sexuality. It's always funny to me that people who are all about "Support me and my struggles!" will also tell people theirs are invalid. "Support X sexuality ... but not that one, because I personally don't get to be with those people and I want to, so it's unfair to me >(" ... that's how it comes across. Besides, why would you WANT to date someone who isn't attracted to you? And if they're otherwise totally supportive and fine with trans people, they're not transphobic. I mean that's like asking if it's homophobic for a straight man to not want to date a drag queen. No? [Okay not exactly but still]. He's straight, he can't change that. Even if that drag queen makes a 100% convincing woman. Ya know? ... again not the best example buuuut
10. This one is tricky for me, because the best results come from starting hormones before the natural ones take over [i.e before puberty] but ... then there is a lot of debate about truly knowing yourself and everything. And some kids can misunderstand their feelings [example: I've seen one who thought because boys had it easier than her [in her opinion] that she'd have it easier to be a boy. So she convinced herself that since she was a tomboy anyway, she was a boy. She now is stuck with a deep, male voice despite de-transitioning because it was a misunderstanding on her part and she started really young [under 10 I believe].]. BUT I think if they've worked with therapists and are confirmed to have dysphoria, it wouldn't hurt to start some of their transition, but not the surgeries. They're dangerous enough on adults, I imagine they'd be worse on child.
11. It's not. It's a straight relationship. Unless one of them isn't straight - that is. Heteronormative or Hetero-appearing isn't just hetero. Like a bisexual guy dating a bisexual girl isn't a "Straight relationship" - because they're not straight people. IF that makes sense?
12. No ... they/them has been a singular pronoun pretty much since the dawn of English. When you don't know someone's gender and your friend is like "Oh the Landlord called" you go "What did THEY say?" You don't ASSUME it's 2 or more landlords, you know it's just ONE landlord. Best example of singular meaning to the they/them pronoun.
13. If you're going to the bathroom for any other purpose than to use the bathroom for what it's for, you don't belong in a bathroom. Period. Gender is irrelevant.
14. No. Next question.
15. No, but they're a dick if they're doing the opposite on purpose. It'd be like me calling you an IT or if you're male and I call you a SHE in a mean way. that's a dick move. If I tell you my pronouns are he/him and you're like "Alright little girl" you're a dick. And while I won't force you to use my pronouns, you will let an entire chat or room of people know you're a dick and I won't associate.
16. I personally don't care for the Xem/Xim etc pronouns - but to each their own. I think if you say something is your genuine pronouns because that makes YOU comfortable, then all I can say is I'll try to remember and use them properly. But if you're doing it to be edgy, or SO QUIRKY ...just ...just stop.
17. Hate to break it to you but ... they don't cut it off. They turn it inside out.
18. I mean ... it depends on your definition of "Support" - if you mean Accepting and paying for them and backing them entirely, not necessarily? Liiike ... this is a loaded question, but so long as you're not trying to HURT trans people [or any one else you don't "Support" that isn't hurting anyone else] then I guess it's okay? And by hurt I mean: physically, or making their life harder, or picking laws and stuff to ban their existence [tf is wrong with you?] etc. Not just physically harm.
19. No.
20. It depends on the person, some people make a genuine mistake. This is why I personally think therapy is a major thing needed in transitioning. I've known too many people [personally and stories] that made a mistake. They misunderstood how they felt and had no one to help them navigate and be sure they weren't in the wrong. One was someone who has the same mental illness/problem? idk what to call it, but that drives people to keep getting plastic surgery because they're NEVER Happy with how they look because they're ALWAYS sure it's still wrong/bad/ugly/etc that led her to transition and now she's de-transitioning [still uses she/her pronouns atm so I'm using them] because she feels she was a man all along. To me personally, at least right now [who knows, I've not started a proper transition yet and don't have proper therapy atm] I am happy.
I didnt think Seth's comment on the southpark matt and tray is misplaced, if they could see family guy as lazy, hes responding lazily as well, its less about proving their point but more about proving their point doesnt matter, them having relationship as a joke had always been family guy joke, it barely matters
Personally, my biggest issue with Family Guy's offensive humor is that, for the overwhelming majority of the jokes, the punchline is simply "it's offensive", rather than having any sort of tact or subtlety to it. Plain and simple, like so much allegedly-"adult" animation, it is juvenile and, on many occasions, goes beyond simply pushing the boundaries and straight to insulting the people involved. I find the Down Syndrome/Sarah Palin situation to be the most emblematic of this, as the entire crux of the joke is "Her kid has Down Syndrome! Laugh at her!"
Don't get me wrong. I love dark, offensive, and shock humor-"The Aristocrats" joke is one of my favorite comedy bits of all time. However, it has to be done right, and for the overwhelming majority of its jokes, Family Guy simply doesn't.
I used to love family guy now I see it as unbearable
This why I hate family guy
Someones offended
You've perfectly explained what I've found off-putting about Family Guy's offensive jokes. Before I couldn't even put my finger on why, but you've cleared it all up.
@@irenelowe9739 I agree with this guy and my favorite show in South Park
If you want to survive in edgy comedy...the #1 rule is that you have to make fun of EVERYONE, not just select groups. Family Guy does this which is why it has survived so long.
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That's why they are goated, they target everyone including themselves. Steph doesn't believe in a God and in one of the episodes Peter asked God if atheist can go to heaven and he replies "No, down to the deepest part of hell"
@@_basedmusicFamily Guy is far from goated, the show fell off way too hard
@@mohamedbaradji7504 lmao it didn't.
You're just a sheep and following what others say. Let me guess you think family guy was peak from season 1-4
I remember when the Brian dead controversy 1st started. people in my classroom thought that the actor who played him died and that's why they did it, not realizing that it's Seth McFarland that voices Brian🤣🤣🤣
Your classmates were stupid 😂
Seth MacFarlane is no longer involved with the writing of the show. Since Fox keeps renewing the show against his own need, he's worked on his live action show like the Orville
Exactly. People keep acting like Seth is to blame for the series downfall, when really he hasn't written for the show since 2010. He admits that all he does now is the voice acting. Even HE is over it, and wants to move on. He is still executive producer as he is the shows creator, but the most he does to keep that title is probably thumbs through the script and says "looks good, now let's make some stupid voices so I can get back to making The Orville".
Very well put together. Now I am curious about this same topic with the other long running animated series like King of the Hill, Futurama, The Simpsons, South Park etc.
Blooms has a video on South Park
@@LydiaLovesTimelines But that’s not a Lydia video 😉
South Park and Futurama I still watch. I've grown out of King of the Hill and replaced it with the equally underrated American Dad.
I think even though they touch very sensitive topics, it also realistic shows how some people deal with them, and in the end, they suffer from the sequences, and the characters are called out
literally nothing of it ever happens
Nice work on this video, This is pretty insane Compilation, keep on doing this kind of stuff, we love it!
"When you Wish upon a Weinstine" is just so quaint now. It's incredibly tame, even for early Family Guy standards and the only small adjustment they made when it finally aired was changing Peter's "Even though they killed my Lord" to "I don't think they killed my Lord." Yet, you look at the one where Lois was revealed to be Jewish all along, even bringing back Max, and it's balls to the wall. That said, I'm surprised the episode where Stewie inseminates himself with Brian's DNA isn't featured. Even I found that episode went too far, but then again it was all worth it for that mutant hybrid baby scene at the end. Though I think they could have had that scene with a much less disgusting premise.
On Disney+ it's "Even though" and Disnry+ has the f-bombs censored lol
I can’t imagine the pain the person who got the tattoo when he saw the new Episodes
Iirc he was asked about it and he said he was fine with it
Thats their fault
nah that guy is a complete moron . glad he's in pain
I remember when Brian died, the internet was outraged.
Yes i know i mean the lyrics of family guy had already revealed the part (make us laugh and cry) it was obvious that in some point we were meant to see a sad scene
The day before that happened there were things all over the place talking about how bad of a character he was You know what was all over the place after he died?
Going to be a great video I already know. Hope y’all are having a great year so far.
Keep up the great work Lydia and James!
Thank you! You too!
I'm here to support Lydia and her efforts to cover the zany, crazy controversies in Family Guy! Someone has too! While many can be funny, it's the sheer amount of shock humor that makes one turn and say" Can you believe they did that?!"
Thanks so much for watching and supporting me, Lowell!
The only thing I'm shocked they did was the episode about stewie making himself pregnant. That episode was disturbing for so many reasons. Idk how that was agreed to air
@@_basedmusic Stewie getting pregnant, Stewie getting AIDS....ugh.... Who thinks this is funny when it's too gross?! 😂
@@LowellLucasJr. when did stewie get AIDS... don't you mean herpes?
I’m glad Patrick Warburton spoke up about some of the controversies. He’s one of my favourite actors right now and the best thing to ever come out of family guy!
Wish he'd speak up about how they took his character from badass in a wheelchair that's so full of adrenaline he constantly shouts to the pathetic cripple who talks like an old woman. I miss Adrenaline Joe.
@@mightyfilm yeah me too. But remember the episode in season 6 where he got surgery and could finally walk again and was acting like a jerk to everyone and made new friends? Peter, Cleveland and quagmire weren’t having it at all!
I don't think that was the reason for the writers just turning Joe into the Meg of his group. The character used to be all about, yeah he's disabled but he makes up for it by having more energy and boisterousness than anyone else in the show. Now the character's all about making him a joke BECAUSE he's disabled and somehow making him an old granny for some reason. Plus, I miss Joe's sudden bursts of extremely loud exclamations. You have Warburton playing the character, might as well get the most Warburton out of him. I want to see some of that Brock Samson/Kronk energy back in the character.
@@mightyfilm probably won’t happen at this point unfortunately but you never know.
Hes got a great voice
I'm glad you posted this because I mean I'm aware of most of these but I actually completely forgot about the Terri schiavo one. But I'm glad you ended it with that double dribble one. I mean that one is just so hilarious and actually happened but I'm glad it got so quickly resolved. It's interesting how that didn't happen to the tecmo Super bowl video that Family Guy took in that episode as well.
If I'm remembering correctly, wasn't the real issue of the Terri Schiavo controversy because she had actually succeeded in being able to breathe and be fed without artificial assistance, but her ex somehow had wrestled decision-making from her parents, and forced the doctors to stop feeding her?
I was forced to deal with abuse at a young and through my 20 it mess me up pretty bad but when I saw the elephant joke about abuse and the abuser ep it made me laugh the whole killing thing was out there but I remember wishing this type of stuff really happen to get me out of the situation I finds these episodes to fine mostly cuz it is just mindless jokes and you shouldn't take everything so seriously in life and also with the abusers stuff how a person in their young adults years can feel trapped and like everyone knows but no one willing to help! imagining someone anyone! coming to save you is a type of cope with the situation and its normal
That is why I love family guy
In Screams of Silence Joe said he can't arrest Jeff unless Brenda files a formal complaint to the police, but what Joe just said is absolutely not true for exactly the scenario they're conveying. Friends & family of the victim have the right to report the abuse if they are straight up seeing the abuse, this would be more understandable if the abuse was occuring behind closed doors.
Even with all the controversies and low points that Family Guy has gotten over the years, I'll still remain a fan of the series.
Also, will you do a video discussion on Beavis and Butthead?
I always interpreted the South Park beef as Matt and Trey seeing how smart, well-written, and funny, family guy CAN be if they consistently put in the effort. They look at how skilled and talented Seth is, they see the moments where his work really shines, and then it’s immediately beaten at the knees with something lazy, meaningless, or unfunny. “Why can’t you be this good all the time??” Kinda thing. They hate FG because they know how good it CAN and chooses NOT to be
Do they know that American dad exists and try to put 2 and 2 together?
If family guy didn't have all these controversies, it won't be a great show and American dad would have been useless
It’s funny how Partial Terms of Endearment, AKA the best episode of Family Guy, got banned, yet Screams of Silence, Seahorse Seashell Party, Fresh Heir, and the Post Brian Death Arc roam free… what a society.
Religious nuts are the worst
Plus Stewie Enceinte 😭
@@alim.9801 I forgot that too.
I cant believe 120k people signed a petition to bring back Brian 😂
How wouldn’t? he was one of my favourite characters with stewie, I love the fact that he is miserable all the time and try to not look like a jerk and a loser when he in fact is and know it.
Regarding the episode with Ida's transition, while the characters behave in transphobic ways at times, if you actually watch the episode all the way through, I'm not sure how you could come out of it with any other message than "trans people should be accepted".
I dunno, I've never liked the "offense is the joke" explanation. I get dark humor and pushing boundaries, but as I get older and well mature I can see why a lot of these happened and can honestly even agree with at least a few of them.
Offense for the sake of offense isn't funny. There's ways to poke at sensitive subjects but still respect their seriousness and Family Guy just lacks any hint of respect (to the point of seeming almost gleefully cruel at times) for most of the issues they joke about.
right. there are soooo many ways to make entertaining and funny jokes about say gay and trans people. but if the joke itself is that they exist, idk, theres just nothing really funny about that. its offensive but that isnt even the worst thing about that kind of joke, the worst thing is that theres simply no humor inherent in the existence of queer people. a great comparison is between the scene at the gay camp vs quagmires mom. the man at the gay camp is affected and stereotypically gay but he's used to joke about the other men not really being stright (like most victims of anti-gay camps tend to be). with quagmires mom though, the joke is that shes disgusting. thats not saying anything witty or clever, thats just regurgitating what have been very mainstream opinions for a long time up until now.
I agree that the murder/death/disease jokes hit different as I get older… but I’m the same person to make sexist jokes towards women because the joke is ‘it’s obviously a stupid comment to make’. I make gay jokes as a bi woman for the same reason.🤷🏻♀️ comedy is definitely subjective
Yeah another person made a similar point on how they used to have actual punchlines for their dark jokes but eventually the punchlines were literally just about being offensive which like the person said, isn’t funny it’s genuinely just offensive rather than dark humour that ppl it may apply too can actually laugh at
Well the show is still popular so it doesn’t really matter who’s gotten old and changed views.
It is funny in the sense that it's funny to laugh at people who take everything way to fuckin seriously like you do dude lmao
Fun video and great to see a Blooms collab!
It’s kinda funny that the people who came up with Mr Stinky the Christmas Poo don’t like Family Guy because of their writing 😂
His name is Mr. Hanky, you uncultured swine! (/j)
@@psychosomaticstatic ahh damn it I’ll see myself out
Ahemm... Mr Hanky...not Stinky. Please treat talking poo with respect 🤔
Mr Hankey lol not stinky
Mr Hankey the christmas poo, you love him and he loves you
I actually enjoy family guy way more than south park because of the gags. South park goes above and beyond with their jokes so much that it is way to rich for me. Family guys is just right to make me laugh or chuckle at times which is just perfect
Lol
Wow, it's crazy to hear about all of this. I don't pay attention to the news that much, so learning about all those conversies is insane
With the episode “when you wish upon a Weinstein” I feel like the joke was more aiming at peters stupidity rather then disparaging people of Jewish faith.
Family Guy is not a show for children, if you let your kids watch it that's on you.
It's always the parents, they blame shows,TV , Videogames, Anime, and Social Media but not themselves.
All children deserve parents but not all people deserve kidsm
Great video Lydia! I’m always in awe of how many details you dredge up about family guy
Thanks so much!
Lowkey I wanna see a video where people talk about family guys hatred (or seemingly hatred) towards bob's burgers. I love bob's burgers a lot but family guy seems to have a small grudge against them which was shown at the end of an episode (I forgot the name) where peters says "I hope you enjoy this crossover episode with the cast of bob's burgers" and it zooms out to show the belcher family standing in the living room then peter proceeds to talk mess to them saying "give us two Emmys worth of humor" and something like "anything? Girl with the bunny ears? Man I love it when characters are expressed with props" then bob chimes in saying "this feels like less of a crossover and more of a roast" then peter replies with "no a roast is light hearted" it comes off as salty as hell so I wanna know more about their small feud
Edit: also note that the entire episode wasn't about a crossover between the two at all it was just jammed in at the very end
I always thought it came from Family Guy character just hating the fact that the cast of Bob's Burgers can make there own original funny jokes and Bob's Burgers not having to abuse any of the family members
Thank you for sharing this video I didn't know South Park had beef with family guy
In my opinion I think Matt and Trey are jerks because they got a lot of nerve to criticize the writing a family Guy considering South Park's writing is based on the Hot topic. Which goes to show you how immature Matt and Trey are
@@animezilla4486 😲😳
@@animezilla4486 South park is wayyyyy better than family guy trying to watch a whole episode of family guy is painful
@@KeithMcormack895 yes southpark has some amazing episodes including the specials but I do criticize the show for having most of their plot be based on what's going on in the world instead of just focus on being original story about the boys
I am gay and tbh family guys gay jokes don't really upset me the gay aboriginal is probably my favorite gag ever everyone gets ribbed in family guy so it's best to remember not to take it to serious
From a South Park Dad and a Family Guy Mom. This is a beautiful episode, nice work ❤❤
People really need to quit getting offended for communities they're not a part of..
I didn’t know about half of these controversies, but I’m not surprised. The show sometimes doesn't have a filter.
That's literally the point
4:36 The lawsuit against fox for the copyright of "when you wish upon a star" was a good example of a case of transformative fair use. That is why the judge ruled in favor of family guy, because parodies and satire adds so much different meaning or a new meaning to the copyrighted material 😅
I remember the dumpster baby gag, I was about 6 and watched it and cried because I felt bad for the babies 😂
😢😂😂
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You watched Family Guy at 6 years old?? Jesus lol
What the hell were your parents doing?
A 6 year old should never watch this show.
@@Lavender-Waterfall I was younger than they were when I watched Family Guy for the first time lol
Wanna know something even more depressing about Quagmire’s sister? In the episode, Coma Guy, while Peter’s in a coma and about to board the boat which is filled with every character that has died on the show (basically a metaphor for him almost dying), you can see Brenda as one of the passangers on board, implying that she died at some point. It’s genuinely sad because not only was she in an abusive relationship, and not only did she only separate because her boyfriend “broke up”, but the final nail in the coffin is that she somehow died, probably not even fully recovered from that.
The one episode where Brian got Stewie pregnant was a little weird
okay well he didn’t really GET him pregnant a dog did not do it with a baby but it is weird and hard to watch
One of the worrsst
Great breakdown, as a casual viewer I had no idea about all these controversies. Great video, and after finding your channel only last night I can already say I'm hooked. You're thorough, animated, the editing and explanations are great, and your avatars rock!
Meg getting abused every opportunity (i.e whenever. Milla Kunis has time to be on the show) is such a normal thing that I completely miss the parallel with her and Quagmire's Sister.
Really well made video! You just got a new subscriber! 😀
Matt and Trey admitted their hatred towards Family Guy is completely one-sided. I don't get why they hate Seth so much. I don't even think Seth has even met them before. I feel like the beef is silly, they are both great shows.
Because they saw Family Guy taking a portion of their audience and become just as, if not more popular and they got jealous and butthurt. That's pretty much the gist of it
@@jakobwedel3168South Park is way more popular than family guy. It’s also well written unlike cutaway gags. That’s why people talk about the newer South Park seasons and the only thing people mention about family guy is how boring and repetitive it is
The domestic abuse episode is just the reality... Sadly people die because they cannot escape the situation.
Wow a whole channel dedicated to animation timelines! This channel needs more subs
Thank you ☺️
Big Boss watches family guy in Zanzibar Land
@@anthonyf616 I actually watch it from the US
@@bigboss425 the whole world wants you dead, Boss. Are you sure you should be watching Family Guy in the same country the Patriots reside?
Good Bad Flicks put it best "Controversy sells."I would add to this that there's no such thing as bad publicity for a show like this.If they wanted to mock Palin then why not mock her for being a conservative who was too busy to teach her oldest daughter to not do certain things mainly getting herself knocked up out of wedlock and glamorizing it.
I used to hate the episode with Quagmire's sister, but lately I guess my sense of humor has warped so much I can understand and laugh with the writers on the messed up joke they were going for in that episode
i really don’t know why matt stone and trey parker are so heart set on hating family guy & Seth so much. it seems like jealously to me.
Definitely not...
Sounds like the South Park creators may be harboring some secret envy under the guise of animosity. Also, why would the team at The Simpsons do a joint episode with Family Guy if they share that "animosity"? Seth is crazy but he's brilliant
Because Family Guy was crazy popular that time. Simpsons was loosing its popularity and Family Guy was everywhere. And South Park wasn’t even on a TV channel. So they felt jealous I guess 😂
Exactly! Family guy was mopping the floor with those shows during the 00s. Literally got brought back due to reruns and DVD sales. So clearly enough people enjoyed family guy. The cutaways are supposed to be absurd that’s what made them so good in the beginning. South Park does over the top edgy humor the same way they claimed family guy just used cutaways.
The PTC also hated the WWF during the Attitude Era in the late ’90s and very early 2000s. The WWF responded by creating a stable called Right to Censor (RTC), which would go around censoring the kind of content that the PTC complained about, and were actually somewhat successful as a team.
Great vid. I was expecting it to be in chronological order and was thrown when it wasn't, but this is very thorough; though I also expected parts about Quagmire being a sexual predator (until recently - they took it from him and spread it over the rest of the cast LMAO) and Seahorse Seashell Party/Meg abuse in general. I suppose you decided to stick to the stuff that made the headlines, or maybe chapters on that would make it more depressing/unmonetizable in general.
I’m trans myself and honestly I never found any of family guys jokes offensive. I actually found them funny, the show literally makes jokes about EVERYONE so for me to be offended over that would be a little stupid , I also grew up joking about my trauma and dark humor so it could just be me 😂
😂lol you should be one of those people that should represent the community not this woke sheet we see now a days
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South Parks been way more offensive than anything Seth McFarlane would dare to put out.
That's why I prefer Family Guy to South Park.
I loved South Park as a teenager, but removing the rose tinted glasses; I realised how offensive the show is just for the sake of being offensive. In my opinion, there's a slight sense of tastefulness in Family Guy's humour; which can very much cross the line.
Yes, even I think Family Guy has crossed the line on occasion; South Park is, in my opinion; a lot worse.
People have been circlejerking over how great south park is because it "takes shots at everyone" when its a clearly biased show, I mean look at the difference in family guy and south park in portraying transgender people, family guy made Ida a great character who just so happened to be trans while south park constantly punched down with things like Mr. Garrisons sex change ("that would mean I'm just a guy with a mutilated penis") and taking the extreme on the issue of transgender people participating in gender differentiated sports
@@juiceoverflow South Park just goes harder on the paint, that' all.
@@Plsrateeight if letting someone wear women's clothing when theyd otherwise kill themselves is enabling,why the fuck wouldnt you do it other than to intentionally cause someone to kill themselves?
Partial terms of endearment was certainly an interesting episode. It was really solid tho imo.
Good video, Lydia!
Kind of have less respect for Matt and Trey after watching this. It’s not like South Park hasn’t indulged in shock comedy just for the sake of it
I (as a FG Fan) will say this about about Seth and the Cast's _"It's Just A Joke"_ or _"They Go After Everyone"_ Defense, there has to be something about their gag that's supposed actually to make it funny, and they've been mostly hit or miss (especially in the recent seasons). They've only proved that Matt and Trey are right about them They even did the topic of 'puling the plug' much better.
1:14 this one always gets stuck in my head, i sing it while cleaning sometimes lol
I mean Matt and Trey were absolutely correct
Ironically. The abortion video was the most serious episode Family Guy ever had.
I appreciate the cutaway style, we all have these tiny things we think are funny that would probably work in a cartoon and family guy is a way to express those tiny things that wouldn’t make an entire episode, but make for good small skits. I can also see why Matt and Trey dislike it from a writers standpoint
It’s because we have short attention span lol
21:30 you can find his opinion on the removal in the DVD commentary of either that episode or another later one. I remember him being really upset about how the Simpsons got to keep their joke in and they got censored.
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Technically Family Guy set up Brian’s return before he was even seemingly killed off. Before he destroys his time machine, he comments on what he last used it for (to get the hot new Christmas toys early.) And sure enough Stewie and Vinnie see the pre Brian’s death Stewie at the mall just before Christmas. Never hear anyone bring that up.
PS: I’m generally not that kind of angry fanboy… but I fking hated Vinnie
Also South Park is probably the only cartoon that could retcon such a misstep that fast with an episode taking almost to at least as long to make as it takes to make an episode of The Simpsons (forgot but it’s in months.)
South Park takes 4 days
Vinnie was okay but he added really nothing to the show since he's just the manifestation of the Italian jokes the show makes all the time.
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As a proud member of the LGBTQ+ community I laughed so hard at it. I understand that it’s dark humor but it’s not a kids show it’s for mature audiences don’t blame family guy for their jokes and humor, parents should regulate what their children watch and not blame the creators and show.
4:04 the thing is, it's canon that Lois mom is Jewish, making Lois Jewish, making all of her children Jewish, according to Jewish law. So meg, Chris and Stewie and lois are all Jews.
My advice to anyone who can’t take a joke at face value and will take Family Guy seriously… just don’t watch it and don’t comment online about how offensive it is and how it takes things too far etc BECAUSE THAT IS THE POINT. No one cares about your opinion on what we find funny because your opinion is not superior to someone else’s.
The problem isn’t that they make these jokes. The problem is that these things happen in real life. We should focus on addressing that instead of canceling a show that’s simply being honest.
Love these family guy videos
Fun fact, the barbershop Quartet aids bit helped me pass high school. I was able to remember which one was the more progressed version of the disease because I didn’t even watch Family Guy but I had seen the bit on the TV once when my sibling was watching it.
Wait 2013??? Man I thought Brian's death was way sooner. It feels like Twitter was outraged about the episode only a couple years ago
really? i remember literally being like 11 or 12 watching that, that was like 10 years ago
The fact that Brian comes back after a couple of episodes makes me really appreciate Vinny. He has his moments when he makes me laugh. And when Stewie realizes he can bring Brian back, then says "Goodbye" to Vinny. It's a really heartwarming moment between them. It shows that they have bonded in the little time they spent together.
15:37 I don't get it. It was supposed to be transphobic? I thought she just didn't like the food.
@@heinickTBF I think the joke was meant to be that it was "contaminated" because she's trans
It could be seen that way, but the way I saw it (and probably everyone else that was complaining) that she didn't want it because it was made by a Trans person. To be clear I dont think its bad, just explaining it
@@FairCoronet7083 If someone were to do it irl, that would be pretty messed up.
@@JKBDTS I agree, but I mean that I get that the joke is that Lois is being a bad person. But I agree that would be awful if someone did that
“Marginalized groups”: we just wanna be treated equally
Those same people: DONT YOU DARE MAKE FUN OF US OR ITS HATE SPEECH
But those marginalized groups are already being mocked much more often
You’re missing the point. Imagine you get bullied for DECADES by a group of bullies, and then one day they invite you to be apart of the group…. Just to continue to make fun of you. It’s crazy that as soon as people talk about wanting equal treatment, you immediately try to normalize only the BAD treatment. People want respect without being torn down with “jokes” that aren’t jokes to a lot of people.
The reason i watch Family guy is its cutaways. Heres is the thing, when watching south-park or simpsons or any other show , its based on a story line/plot. I know what to expect before diving in those shows. Thats were family guy gets its uniqueness. The fact that most of the jokes are cut-aways makes its extremely unpredictable which inturn keeps me engaged. Yes it has a lot of dark stuffs, but family guy has always been that way and people who cannot take things light-heartedly should not watch the show at the first place. Coz there are no episodes of family guy where you wont encounter a dark or offensive topic.
To be fair. This complaint wasn’t without standing. 2:06 I remember being 5 years old with this exact episode playing and my Dad angrily questioning why that was on when I was just watching ordinary cartoons 10 minutes prior on the same channel. Since Adult Swim usually came on around 10 o clock.
“Prom Night Dumpster Baby” was based on a real event? I just always assumed it was making fun of teen girls having abortions, I thought the prom night part was referring to the circumstances of conception and the “babies” were the personification of the terminated foetuses. Now that I think about it, I can’t imagine a song about abortion making it through Fox’s censors. It actually makes much more sense for it to be based off a literal prom night birth. Not a big fan of Family Guy so I guess I just didn’t think about it before.
The event the video referenced clearly took place after the song was made, so the song wasn't based on a real event.
@@greywolf7577 Nope, the event took place in 1997.
Nice work. I really like your voice and this is a well organized compilation of all the stuff I've read on Wikipedia lol.
Do Every South Park Controversy videos.
That'd be an extremely long video (most of it featuring cartman)
Blooms made a great video about it if you wanna see it 👍🏾
blooms did it already
Very well put together video. I'm a very die hard fan, even had the DVD sets and I still don't remember the surrogate episode. Definitely sparks conversation at the least. I do remember watching the one with the boston marathon joke, but it was funny at the time because it was prior to the tragedy. But when the bombing happened IRL, I thought family guy had some inside knowledge or it was just a terrible timed coincidence. I'm still not sure.
I don’t mind the offensive/dark humor because that’s what they are, it’s gonna be a thing as always, BUT, my issue is how some of the characters changed compared to season 1-5, to after that, including how the show went downhill (from my view).
Even though peter might be a manchild, he doesn’t go out of his way to nearly kill or beat up someone as his character was like Patrick, except he’s more dumb, but at least a comical type of dumb. The thing I hate is that after S5, he starts to do those things and doesn’t see what he’s done as wrong up until all of a sudden he goes, “oh my god lois, you’re right,” and then everyone forgives him like nothing happened. However, to be fair, he’s way better than Lois which I’ll explain next.
Lois was a usual supporting house wife who never really flirted with anyone, hell she wasn’t really like how she was afterwards. Also she never really beats up Peter or does something where it gives her some sort of power over her family. Now, she’s pretty much a w**re, she’s abusive, and unlike Peter, she never feels sympathetic nor apologizes afterwards, it just skips those moments like nothing happened. Hell whenever there’s an episode where she’s strong in some way, she always has to beat or abuse Peter/someone in a way like she has power over them.
As for Meg, well… I wouldn’t say she was bad, she just became like squidward where she’s always picked on or is like a punching bad. Hell there’s an episode where she stood up for herself and near the end, she forgives them, and you wanna know why? Because APPARENTLY, it’s ok for her to be a punching bag since that lets everyone off their steam onto her… like yeah, it doesn’t make sense, and yet they try to make it seem like it’s an ok situation.
Now Brian, I’m just gonna summarize it, he went from a dog who used to be a voice of reason and likable, to being an a**hole. If you think otherwise, he would literally give a kid aids just to teach them a lesson. Also he usually for some reason he always portrays himself as something good, before telling someone something where it contradicts what he “thinks himself” to be.
Now as for the show, I’m just gonna try to explain this the best I can, It’s just not like how it was. For some reason they often rely on skits, some Brian & Stewie adventure type of sh*t, or some cutaways. To me, this show was better when it was season 1-5 because you could tell the comedy and jokes are actually good, it wasn’t over the top messed up blood, they literally had an episode where Chris and Peter fight, before deciding to get along by playing golf, but unknowingly accidentally hitting someone with their golf ball, while also focusing on the fact that they are bonding as a father & son.
To me, South Park, while also on a long run, is at least bearable to watch since they don’t really rely on characters having a switch into being something they aren’t.
Tl;dr, family guy was better in S1-5, the characters had a bad change of personality like SpongeBob’s S1-3, to S4 and after.
Family Guy vs South Park -- Sometimes I want to laugh and I don't mind being preached to so I watch South Park. Other times I just want to relax and watch silly jokes so I watch Family Guy.
Those who get offended by this kind of shows need to seek a phycologist and physiatrist at the same time