@@Jedentheconsume Why? If anyone pays to teach them how to play a game is just plain stupid. The whole point is to play and learn yourself. That would be like playing dark souls for the first time and having someone who is max soul level just carry you through the game. Where's the fun in not overcoming your own weaknesses and getting better yourself?
The game's built around how well you can mirror the opponent and whoever slips up enough times dies. There are some exceptions with different weapons etc but all "high level" duels in this game with longswords or messers just end up being that.
@@legomanc4555 Absolutely NOT. If you've even seen any real fencing, you would know that both sides tend to have healthy respect for defense. So much so, many would rather play mind games with the opponent, than be the one who strikes first. Because once you've given your guard up for attack, the fight will almost always be over very quickly. Mordhau, while an arcade interpretation of melee fighting, is somewhat more accurate. The various swing manipulations with riposte creates situations where you don't really want to riposte predictable attacks on every single parry, because it gives opponents initiative to feed you mix-ups.
Nah only noons mirror each other in a fight for an hour doing the same attacks back and forth. You have to break their flow of combat by mixing drags, kicks, jabs, and movement.
@@Darkstar198 Though I think for the sake of the game, defence is less of a priority as many people prefer fast combat to hitting once every 5 seconds. Interesting perspective though.
Dude that first duel was incredible, swapping weapons at the end, all kinds of cool stuff. It *looks* high level, and FUN, AND dynamic. Way more than any mordhau gameplay, anyhow.
to follow that up, i genuinely rooted for you in these matches. i think chiv ii is a thousand times more watchable than it's counterparts as a "sport" in the competitive sense.
Idk tbh, I’ve always found chiv (both 1 and 2) to be incredibly clunky when compared to mordhau, everything in chiv feels so robotic, like there is no fluid motion in it
@@Familyguyfunnymoments_ no it wasn't. Mordhau used to be good until the devs abandoned it and left it to get ravaged by cheaters. It's now a cesspool.
When I first started playing Chiv 2, it felt like absolute shit coming from Mordhau. It felt like things were hitting my block before the windup was even finished, making countering ridiculously hard. I think after getting used to the animations, however, Chiv 2 generally has a much healthier combat flow for both 1vX and duels. I also believe the system allows for proper strategic gambling with jabs that Mordhau only has a gimped version of through kicks. Overall, I think Chiv 2 better captured the aspects of what makes the FPMS genre enjoyable.
That second fight felt like a fight out of a movie, both opponents forced to switch it up and the battle goes on so long there weapons are knocked out of their hands.
First one was disarmed, then picked up a weapon off the wall, eventually weapons were swapped when the player tried to throw his weapon and picked up his enemy's before disarming him and subsequently decapitating him.
A good tip is to always assume a dane axe user has initiative. Because they do lmao. also use kick more if they start to predictably block every attack. A lot of good players wont go to block immediately after an attack in anticipation of a kick some times though.
I like how you learned and adapted to the macr guy spamming q special. Also that first fight where you both were picking up different weapons was like something out of jackie chan movie
@@catbert7 Two knights stared at each other 60 feet apart. With swords gripped firmly in hand and ice skates on each foot. The crowd looked from afar, suspense in the air. Suddenly, a loud horn booms across the ring, and the two warriors charge at each other, after a few seconds, both pass right through, but wait! One of them is missing an arm... As he looks at his injury, he faints and the fight is declared over.
I MUST SAY, this looks way more enjoyable to watch and play than mordhau, I can't believe my opinion has been changed. Can't wait for Chiv 2's release on steam!
I actually like TTK in this game, the exagerrated clashing sounds are satisfying as well. But animations are still so offputing for me. Wish I could get past it to enjoy it as well
1:08: This is some cinematic shit, damn! 2:06: OMFG, PERFECT! xD 3:22: There is no typing in war, Friend! hahahaha 3:53: "lucky. fuck. fucking. fuck. ez... FUCK." xD 9:45: The Tornado!
@@troxity5589 lol same i get on chiv every couple a months for a few hours max and never play it again. The animations and "realism" of chiv 2 just bothers me. I play mord every day and never get bored of it lmao, just hit lvl 100 today.
The only pros to chiv really are the maps, gimmicks(ie. grabbing everything/being able to throw everything), and the voicelines. I like the voices of mord better but chiv just has more voice lines.
Whats the learning curve like on this game if you're already decent at mordhau? There seems to be a couple big differences that will take muscle memory time to get used to, but other than that is it pretty seamless?
if you match your controls to closely resemble your mordhau inputs it will help but takes a decent amount of time to get used to the differences (I'm at 40 hours rn and got the hang of it at this stage)
so is this game completely broken or would it still be fun to pick up when it comes out on steam? i mean it is my favorite genre it might be worth it just for those first few months of noob harvest
@@morefeedmoresneed8906 Start out with the team objective modes and free for all, they're more noob friendly. If you wanna get sweaty duel servers are where it's at.
The sound design is fucking amazing oh my god, I forgot how violent it was lmaooooo. Do the original VA's reprise their roles or is it just lines from the original?
I live in Brasil, and here, outside the city on rural areas we have a sort of sword that is called "facão" or "pexera", normally it have the length of the lower leg and having no police in those lands the people solve problems by their own, so it's not very rare to see swords fights until death on those remote places, normally they take one sword on each hand and start to fight but takes long before someone gets hit because they defend with precision.
My tactic in this was perfect, especially against cautious players who block. Mirror them for 2 blocks then throw a kick and finish with the face thrust! I'm a major Knight main and the greatswords are excellent 👌
My brother and I, when we have time, we get two long clubs and fight until someone hits the other. It is really close to the fights from this game, but without armor and 10 times faster. It's a great game.
I've only ever played Chiv I and Mordhau. Is 'competitive' combat in Chiv II out staming your opponent by making block longer? Fake an accel, but actually drag/morph to draw out their block time etc...
7:40 For the life of me I can’t tell what happens here. You go for a counter, and succeed with blue flashes… but you cancelled the swing/feinted? My brain is so broken rn
For the game you’re making try a mix between mouse controlled mouse controlled directional attacks and mordhau blocks but allow chip damage if you hold block
Have you tried any VR swordplay games? If you have, curious to hear your thoughts on the feasibility of VR sword fighting games taking over the medieval combat market once they expand to multiplayer.
I noticed a bunch of stuff while watching u play: 5:25 you pre-emptively moved right slowly knowing you where going to dodge to left on the first attack to make the enemy aim right and miss you 6:00 you were blocking and saw the guy was about to kick you so you moved your block to the left so his kick hit you instead of your block so i doesnt stun you Do you just have a sequence of steps to take for every move the enemy might make memorized? Or is it a subconcious thing from playing melee slasher games for so long? Whatever it is you are a god at these games.
5:25 I'm not sure what I was doing here, 6:00 I think you may be right, doesn't look like I dropped my block in time to not get stunned so he must have kicked my back, hadn't noticed that (pure chance that happened to me lol)
did I just watch a fight that looks like an actual fight and not an endless series of drags and accels? P.S: some level of accel and drag is fine, but not to the point that a maul moving at 0.5 metres a second crushes a skull
Coaching: mfy.gg/@stouty
no
Yes buy his coaching
What is there no drags in this one
@@commanderrockwell1123 no Ty
@@Jedentheconsume Why? If anyone pays to teach them how to play a game is just plain stupid. The whole point is to play and learn yourself. That would be like playing dark souls for the first time and having someone who is max soul level just carry you through the game. Where's the fun in not overcoming your own weaknesses and getting better yourself?
The game's built around how well you can mirror the opponent and whoever slips up enough times dies. There are some exceptions with different weapons etc but all "high level" duels in this game with longswords or messers just end up being that.
I mean I have never fought with real swords, but I assume that's more or less real sword combat.
@@legomanc4555
Absolutely NOT. If you've even seen any real fencing, you would know that both sides tend to have healthy respect for defense. So much so, many would rather play mind games with the opponent, than be the one who strikes first. Because once you've given your guard up for attack, the fight will almost always be over very quickly.
Mordhau, while an arcade interpretation of melee fighting, is somewhat more accurate. The various swing manipulations with riposte creates situations where you don't really want to riposte predictable attacks on every single parry, because it gives opponents initiative to feed you mix-ups.
How tf he have that game?
Nah only noons mirror each other in a fight for an hour doing the same attacks back and forth. You have to break their flow of combat by mixing drags, kicks, jabs, and movement.
@@Darkstar198 Though I think for the sake of the game, defence is less of a priority as many people prefer fast combat to hitting once every 5 seconds. Interesting perspective though.
3:02 Of course it was your only kill on him. Skallagrim is a dangerous man
His weakness is shovel still. Shovel and R
@@nunyabidness3429 no
Is that really him?
Stouty why did you ask my bank account details and social security number when teaching me to do drags, it was pretty odd
0:59 That little weapon swap exchange right there was so good
Really was!
thank you stouty, the content king! The '5-0 gotta go' was hilarious, gotta love the classic stouty jumps too. Keep it up!
9:55 that attack looked dope, like he put some real oompf into it
true
Ikr
Thats how enemies attack in sekiro
@@xa-12musk8What is that
How tf did he do that
Dude that first duel was incredible, swapping weapons at the end, all kinds of cool stuff. It *looks* high level, and FUN, AND dynamic. Way more than any mordhau gameplay, anyhow.
to follow that up, i genuinely rooted for you in these matches. i think chiv ii is a thousand times more watchable than it's counterparts as a "sport" in the competitive sense.
Shitting on mordhau was pretty unnecessary tbh
Idk tbh, I’ve always found chiv (both 1 and 2) to be incredibly clunky when compared to mordhau, everything in chiv feels so robotic, like there is no fluid motion in it
@@Familyguyfunnymoments_ no it wasn't. Mordhau used to be good until the devs abandoned it and left it to get ravaged by cheaters. It's now a cesspool.
the first duel was throwing horse shit at eachother
That is that best wind up to a swing in the game I’ve ever seen! 9:55
When I first started playing Chiv 2, it felt like absolute shit coming from Mordhau. It felt like things were hitting my block before the windup was even finished, making countering ridiculously hard.
I think after getting used to the animations, however, Chiv 2 generally has a much healthier combat flow for both 1vX and duels.
I also believe the system allows for proper strategic gambling with jabs that Mordhau only has a gimped version of through kicks.
Overall, I think Chiv 2 better captured the aspects of what makes the FPMS genre enjoyable.
Does fpms stand for first person medieval stabber?
@@d.n5287 probably simulator
nevermind, medieval simulator would be a more broad game than this
stabber it is
@@d.n5287 Maybe First Person Melee-Slasher?
That second fight felt like a fight out of a movie, both opponents forced to switch it up and the battle goes on so long there weapons are knocked out of their hands.
Not only that, but they both ended up fighting with their opponent's weapon. That was really nice to watch.
Best duel I've seen so far.
First one was disarmed, then picked up a weapon off the wall, eventually weapons were swapped when the player tried to throw his weapon and picked up his enemy's before disarming him and subsequently decapitating him.
He even took that shield off and blocked a thrown sword, then threw the shield like it was for one use only. 😂
He was a great opponent.
salt in a fighting game, who woulda guessed it
the toxicity in this game is insane sometimes
Its so cool how you kept disarming the guy but he was always ready to snatch a weapon and fight to the death
A good tip is to always assume a dane axe user has initiative. Because they do lmao. also use kick more if they start to predictably block every attack. A lot of good players wont go to block immediately after an attack in anticipation of a kick some times though.
3:14 You could sell that off as cinematic footage, the way he fell down was cool.
Loving more of the Chiv 2 content Big ups Stouty
Use heavy drags to throw off counter timing stouty
I like how you learned and adapted to the macr guy spamming q special. Also that first fight where you both were picking up different weapons was like something out of jackie chan movie
Remember you can parry projectiles in this game. I like heavying a parry off a knife throw to steal initiative and punish their health or stamina :D
Nothing better than countering an archer to chop his head off
been loving these chiv 2 vids stouty, if you wanna keep giving us content thats cool
2:14 I love the cling clang sounds when dueling with swords
6:04
that mace strat looks INCREDIBLY infuriating
(totally not stealing it to use it against people in pubs)
What was he doing?
@@armintor2826 shoving whenever opponent swung to get his turn back, using the power attack to nuke stouty's stam and general overhead annoyance
@@30year-oldboomer17 Stouty forgot that jab cancels specials, it's very counterable
I was about to dislike this video until I see this man doing stouty jumps in chiv 2
acrobat or refund
When you imagine everyone is on ice skates the movement doesn't seem that terrible anymore
Chivalry on Ice. Now that's a performance I'd by tickets to!
@@catbert7 Two knights stared at each other 60 feet apart. With swords gripped firmly in hand and ice skates on each foot. The crowd looked from afar, suspense in the air.
Suddenly, a loud horn booms across the ring, and the two warriors charge at each other, after a few seconds, both pass right through, but wait! One of them is missing an arm... As he looks at his injury, he faints and the fight is declared over.
I MUST SAY, this looks way more enjoyable to watch and play than mordhau, I can't believe my opinion has been changed. Can't wait for Chiv 2's release on steam!
its not good. the game is... repugnant for duels. its great for casual play on 64x64
@@lorenzopaci3945 Bruh fr, duels are for edgy emo kids with “Honor”, 64 players game mode is for the big boys
@@KnightBallistic cap 64 v 64 is where all the noobs play want to get good and actually make an impact to the match 40 v 40 is where the pro play
@@skdjrjwkidhja2803 What an embarrassing comment
@@KnightBallistic 40 v 40>>>
I find myself dying from getting stabbed in the back less.
So intense, Thankyou for posting this I was kinda curious how your mordhau play style would translate to chiv 2. I love the way you fight in this game
Man, fights in Chivalry 2 are so much more interesting to watch than in Mordhau.
lol what! fighting in Chiv 2 is so shit...
I am almost 60 and watching your videos !💟❤️
That is awesome!
That jump attack is really effective ill give it a try. Did you fight Gilgamesh by any chance? He is insanely hard.
yeah dude is exploiting heavily
@@Stouty dont worry he only plays for a week or so after every update when servers are extra janky 😂
i remember such player from Mirage AW, he was the god of feinting
Hold on who is Gilgamesh? I'm in aussie servers so I only see a handful of people to the point that I can recognise their name and armour immediately
gilgamesh ? isnt it galgamesh ? i've seen a similar name in NA East
you make this game look fun and actually some skill involved, props to you Stouty. Fantastic bit of nostalgia with the chiv 1 music too
I love to see the legend fight ;). Nice matches keep it up!
It warms my heart to see chivalry looking fun, I hope they have a PVE or horde mod.
I know it's not the same, but I would highly recommend Vermintide 2 as an alternative.
Or any mod support lol
whoa this is just like that one stoutytage with death grips get got as the song
Combat looks pretty cinematic in motion when both players are pretty sharp.
just jab to cancel enemy special attack. it works with that guy with mace
Fugas coaching
@@Stouty fugas gaming for sure
i have no idea what is going on but im here for it
I actually like TTK in this game, the exagerrated clashing sounds are satisfying as well. But animations are still so offputing for me. Wish I could get past it to enjoy it as well
Yea the sound design is some good shit gotta give em props
Chiv 2 definitely has the most visually satisfying fights of any melee game. Sound effects are great too.
I was waiting for this. Very nice
Nice to see Stouty Jumps in Chiv 2 as well
1:08: This is some cinematic shit, damn!
2:06: OMFG, PERFECT! xD
3:22: There is no typing in war, Friend! hahahaha
3:53: "lucky. fuck. fucking. fuck. ez... FUCK." xD
9:45: The Tornado!
level design is soo much fucking better damn. but those animations. still not convinced to play this game cuz of that
yeah stick with mordhau, i bought chiv 2 and im never gonna play it again.
@@troxity5589 lol same i get on chiv every couple a months for a few hours max and never play it again. The animations and "realism" of chiv 2 just bothers me. I play mord every day and never get bored of it lmao, just hit lvl 100 today.
The only pros to chiv really are the maps, gimmicks(ie. grabbing everything/being able to throw everything), and the voicelines. I like the voices of mord better but chiv just has more voice lines.
Ye chiv map design was fucking amazing but bad anims meanwhile its the opposite in mordhau.
@@troxity5589 truth is I have it for like half a year, played like 6 hours total x)
Whats the learning curve like on this game if you're already decent at mordhau? There seems to be a couple big differences that will take muscle memory time to get used to, but other than that is it pretty seamless?
if you match your controls to closely resemble your mordhau inputs it will help but takes a decent amount of time to get used to the differences (I'm at 40 hours rn and got the hang of it at this stage)
Stouty just makes everything look easy
so is this game completely broken or would it still be fun to pick up when it comes out on steam? i mean it is my favorite genre it might be worth it just for those first few months of noob harvest
It's fun even for noobs imo. Getting close to 30 hours and still enjoying it a lot.
@@daikilvirtav8469 good to hear since id wanna play with some noob friends as well :)
there are some players that have completely broken the game but they are few and far between
@@morefeedmoresneed8906 Start out with the team objective modes and free for all, they're more noob friendly. If you wanna get sweaty duel servers are where it's at.
The sound design is fucking amazing oh my god, I forgot how violent it was lmaooooo. Do the original VA's reprise their roles or is it just lines from the original?
Seems to be all new voice actors if I'm not mistaken but they're really, really good (alongside the lines from the original)
@@Stouty I remember reading on their discord that some of the original voicelines were also re-recorded
the salty duels are hilarious. The music is also well picked
I live in Brasil, and here, outside the city on rural areas we have a sort of sword that is called "facão" or "pexera", normally it have the length of the lower leg and having no police in those lands the people solve problems by their own, so it's not very rare to see swords fights until death on those remote places, normally they take one sword on each hand and start to fight but takes long before someone gets hit because they defend with precision.
I utterly LOVE how impactful the weapons sound! Something Mordhau could never do.
I love both mordhau and chiv, but mordhau does have way better animations, even if there aren't as many as chiv
@@Sov.Beowulf Fair point
Idk the maul in mordhau was pretty cronchy
Looks like rock paper scissors with jank animations
this is reminds me of watching CS veterans switching to Valorant
this was funnier than expected, good stuff
Well. That was was Turkish. Wouldn't call him a delight though.
BARS
must be a new flavour
I’ve played with him a few times he’s pretty cool lol he’s being funny in this
Honestly really good for jumping right into the game, interesting to see how the mordhau skills translate
1:37 FINISH HIM!!.
My tactic in this was perfect, especially against cautious players who block.
Mirror them for 2 blocks then throw a kick and finish with the face thrust!
I'm a major Knight main and the greatswords are excellent 👌
Stouty i dont know how sending you the feet pics you asked was part of the coaching process but i am doing way better
2:07 gg shield
the fact that they can hit back right after you land a hit is stupid, the same as if you disarm them and the next hit they can instantly block
The first dueal was my favourite. Was just so cool and funny at the same time.
drag and accels.. reminds me of another game...
bro when you name dropped your own jump on a random chiv 2 player I was dying. Oh and just jab people like that mace guy at 6:05 its free.
“I was typing” “I know” So cold
The third round was just “Throw shield and break the enemy’s neck.”😂
Btw not the beginning fight
I just faced you! Was like fighting a machine. Hope to see you around on Chiv 2 more often.
gf
Major props to playing in 1st person much harder and skilled than 3rd person
My brother and I, when we have time, we get two long clubs and fight until someone hits the other. It is really close to the fights from this game, but without armor and 10 times faster. It's a great game.
9 months later turk1sh-delight is still riding the salt in public lobbies.
Lmao mace guy just walked up to you menacingly.
I've only ever played Chiv I and Mordhau. Is 'competitive' combat in Chiv II out staming your opponent by making block longer? Fake an accel, but actually drag/morph to draw out their block time etc...
pretty much yeah
7:40 For the life of me I can’t tell what happens here. You go for a counter, and succeed with blue flashes… but you cancelled the swing/feinted? My brain is so broken rn
This video so great I come back and watch a second time!
stouty, which game has a better combat system? Mordhau or chiv2?
I dislike both but Mordhau's system is more refined
For the game you’re making try a mix between mouse controlled mouse controlled directional attacks and mordhau blocks but allow chip damage if you hold block
nice fight vs ova tormax, he is a good ova player. Liking the chiv 2 content
he then killed me like 8 times in a row
@@Stouty haha yeah he plays very solid hard to break down. Duel servers can be rough early on but honestly man youre getting gud pretty fast
My favorite things is spamming overheads with the Dane axe and turning to hit thier ankles lole
Lmao great video! This game always cracks me up 😂
Have you tried any VR swordplay games? If you have, curious to hear your thoughts on the feasibility of VR sword fighting games taking over the medieval combat market once they expand to multiplayer.
Never tried VR but I can't foresee any world where it replaces traditional displays which already work wonders
Ok I might be misinterpreting but at around 5:33 was that a rainbow/waterfall?
no it's just a backswing
Man this is awesome I like watching people who prefer to play first-person view but are you using controller or mouse and keyboard?
mouse and keyboard, always
Its nice to see wiggle feinting being so heavily used now
I noticed a bunch of stuff while watching u play:
5:25 you pre-emptively moved right slowly knowing you where going to dodge to left on the first attack to make the enemy aim right and miss you
6:00 you were blocking and saw the guy was about to kick you so you moved your block to the left so his kick hit you instead of your block so i doesnt stun you
Do you just have a sequence of steps to take for every move the enemy might make memorized? Or is it a subconcious thing from playing melee slasher games for so long? Whatever it is you are a god at these games.
5:25 I'm not sure what I was doing here, 6:00 I think you may be right, doesn't look like I dropped my block in time to not get stunned so he must have kicked my back, hadn't noticed that (pure chance that happened to me lol)
@@Stouty *Casually makes god tier plays without even knowing
No matter how strategic the game may look it all comes down to who can't hit the other person the fastest And longest.
And gotta say, it's pretty fun.
Never seen this game before in my life... but 2:06 was hilarious. XD
idk i feel like the sound design and combat is way better than mordhau cant wait to actually try it out when it comes to steam
did I just watch a fight that looks like an actual fight and not an endless series of drags and accels?
P.S: some level of accel and drag is fine, but not to the point that a maul moving at 0.5 metres a second crushes a skull
I don't think we were watching the same video
@Regan Huitema just wait till this game's meta is discovered and youll be once again whining about "sweaty tryhards" and then uninstall
@@hardboiled2987 what if I told you I can fight against those try hards and win but I enjoy having fights that look normal?
idk but animations do not convince me
wow those sounds are mesmerizing (ur great as usual too)
slow paced version of mordhau
I'd take this over parrying too early and dying to a guy doing spin feint
@@jcdentongaming1304 ok cope more
didn't realize it wasn't mordhau before I saw this wtf
@@jcdentongaming1304 yesh ik, mordhau can be a rage-inducing game
The only i find fun is the ragdols
@@jits2q127 sure. it's not as much as you guys still playing mordhau in hope of more content that isn't tenosians 2.0
epic vid, been playing the game a bit since last time and I must say it is a great time!
Solid game. Glad you started making content on it since Mord is dead...
Chiv 2 content ot this channel, yaaaaay!!!
I love the sound design for this game
Bro I can't even tell what's happening in these fights
Stouty is probably the only chiv 2 player who can wombo combo you with a knife.
Do you think its possible to read combos relatively consistanly like feints in chiv 1?
combos? Main thing that needs reading in this game are kicks, which are fairly readable. Bashes are very hard to see coming though
That flying shield though lmao
Yeetius Rockius at the opening lol
Fucking hell... I thought that it was only me who found one handed maces to be completely broken but it seems not.
4:08 he is turkish how supriseing
Böyle devam beyler her yerde farkımızı göstermeliyiz (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
Yeah, it's more casual and easier to defend in this than in mordhau. But I've been INFINITELY enjoying Chiv more. There's so much less bullshit.
I absolutely love the catharsis effect after watching you beat someone into the ground after they where super cocky XD
3:20 absolute artwork XD