You should check out Renault Scenic that is sold in EU and has even better roof because it can be dynamically adjusted and you could have two Renaults for Lexus price and almost twice the range…
not even cuz in CA w/ Model 3 LR RWD w/ discounts(NOT including tesla's stupid "est gas savings over 6 yrs) is 34990. Sure, its not entry level, but it is cheaper than the entry level somehow. And it gets a real world range of 360 mi
Maybe for you it'd be fine. It wouldn't for me. Why? The long charging times are a major inconvenience. If EV's across the board got 600 mile range in any and all types of weather conditions, and took less than 10 minutes to fully charge, I'd buy one. Until then, zero chance I'd even consider one. I settled on a Hybrid (HEV) that gets 37MPG combined. About 550 to 600 miles per tank (13.3 gallons of regular) It ain't perfect by any means, but it's so much better than an EV and cost me 32,900 plus taxes. EV have come a long way, but they have a very long way to go before they'll be accepted. Prices have to come down, ranges have to expand exponentially, and charging times out on the road have to shrink by 90% before they'll be accepted. People don't have the money, time, or patience to go allEV yet, we're a long way away.
I think it was mazda that said that based on there research the average ev user used up less then 100 miles per day, so they created the mx-30 with only 120 range. Obviously people didn't buy it unless they wanted a errand car, but yeah 200 is still bad, 250 is the bare minimum but it's a lexus
It's simple. The EV is years away from general public acceptance and charging practicality. Toyota masters the hybrid technology and wants to shut up those know nothings who insist EVs are the panacea to the environment when they are really just a tiny step.
Toyota actually got negative press on being not green enough when they almost solely put a hybrid in reach of almost every consumer on earth. As much as I disliked the Prius, hybrid tech and plug in hybrid tech is what has truly helped society see a greener way to drive. And the nerve to call out Toyota was so stupid
Toyota is so stingy with this battery for longevity. They offer one of the better warranties on it, 10 year 150k miles. The tradeoff is less fast charging as well as not long range. In doing so it makes it a mediocre EV, but they are hoping it will last for the long run. I think we'll see eventually where this puts this car in 10 years against it's competitors.
Surprisingly Toyota had** been selling more BZ4X than GM has been selling across their entire EV lineup. *Since some wanted clarity, this happened in April.
@@jrharbortproductions Toyota is more trustworthy than GM so their customers are more likely to buy a new type of car from them. Sadly, the BZ4X is one of the least competitive EVs on the market and if it wasn’t for the Toyota badge no one would buy it.
GM is absolute junk. They get electrical problems brand new. I'd buy a Bz4x over one for sure, but then I'd get a Ford or Lucid over the bz4x if I had the budget option.
2:13 “have you ever shot a video in a tropical storm, you’ve waited at the last second when you have only a couple hours with the car” No buddy wish i had this problems😂
My first thought when loading the video up is that this is pretty much going to be a fancy BZ4X and so it makes perfect sense that it'll be disappointing for similar reasons, range being a big part of that
@@raqtty I starting to think you'll have selective hearing , bias or you'll are actually dumb. Didn't you here the man make the remark about the fisker video?
The limited range is not even the worst part of the electric drivetrain. Couple it with an incredible 2 fast charges/cycles per day limit, and you get the distinct feel that this an EV from a company that absolutely, positively didn't want to make EVs.
🙄 Of course you bash this so no one wants the hydrogen ICE vehicles they are making. EV not the future, Hydrogen is because you can have both Hydrogen Fuel Cell and Hydrogen Combustion. You can have both hydrogen fuel cell commuter cars and enthusiast/Racing Hydrogen ICE cars. We just need influencers to stop spreading lies. Want proof? Type 'red hydrogen truck' in the search bar, it will have a video with a professional that attends SEMA regularly he KNOWS his shit.
Toyota, the Japanese govt and other Japanese carmakers conspired to hold off making EVs to make money on ICE cars during the transition. They even pushed hydrogen cars as a way to stall. Even worse, they are funding the anti EV FUD along with oil companies. By the way, this is a rebadged Subaru.
@@switchprocontrollersplatoo7240 you don't have to drive anywhere near that much. just go into the mountains. you'll hit that in just a few hours of driving. so literally any camping trip in the rockies for example.
@@switchprocontrollersplatoo7240 When I drive to my dad's house a few times a year it's 550 miles one way. In the summer with 280* miles of range (~220 miles real world highway range) in my Model 3 it takes three charging stops, minimum.
@@goga.games18 hybrids are the way to go for Toyota since they're clearly not up to the task to create anything close to competitive. If they could produce better EVs maybe they'd sell more and make more
@@phunk8607nothing pretty. What was pretty was the moronic media and green morons calling out Toyota for not being blindly all in for EVs when they've pioneered hybrid tech for decades. Not petty, but smart
@@burnttoastbraindo you have any reason to believe they won’t come out. Timeframe is important but I’m pretty sure SSB are already in the market anyway, making your point moot
This is a compliance vehicle if we can be honest. Toyota needed to make this (just like Honda with the Prologue and the ZDX) to comply with CA’s zero-emissions laws, otherwise they might not be able to sell ANY car in CA. They took an existing architecture and tried to shove a battery and electric motors in it. If Toyota was really committed to building the best EV they could, then it would have needed to design it from the ground up.
It is built on a bespoke BEV platform, designed from the ground up only for electric vehicles. It's also sold in multiple world markets, so you can't really say it's a compliance car for CA. Toyota just don't like BEVs.
Thats not an excuse. Lexus has known about CA's emissions goals for 30 years. Lexus released their first hybrid 20 years ago. No reason an EV released in 2024 should be such trash.
As a Canadian, the BZ4X and family (Solterra, RZ450e) are a HUGE pain in winter if you're on the highway... There's a 2 DCFC charges per 24-hour thing is a real issue, and consider these other things: * 9% less range on highway according to EPA, making highway range 180 mi (87 mpgE vs 95 comb) * 10+% range loss from winter tires, especially since the A/S or summer tires on EVs tend to be low rolling resistance * 20+% range loss due to cold weather battery efficiency and thermal management, cabin heat and lower regen braking * 30% range loss at 75mph vs 55mph (120km/h vs 90km/h) in the cold Your range is now 90~125 mi in cold winter highway driving with a full charge. Then consider you might want to have at least 5% battery when arriving at a charging station and that you'll want to stop charging at 80%, 70~90 mi range after your charge stops... And then you get 50~80kW charging in the cold, half that past 80%. This average out to 40 minutes of charging for every 80 minutes of driving, you might actually get to your destination faster by driving 25% slower!
Half of these gas lobby propoganda talking points have the same issues with gas combustion engines. The other half can be easily traded for the myriad other issues that gas combustion engines have. The audacity if a Canadian citizen of all people "calling out" EV technology is some delicious irony. How much of your economy comes from fossil fuel sales again? Does your government have a policy on thought control yet?
As far as I know, one reason for the range problems of the Lexus RZ is that Lexus attaches great importance to the longevity of the battery, so they use a relatively small proportion of the gross installed battery capacity
Regardless whether that's the exact reason, they're still shipping this vehicle with 200 miles of usable range, so battery longevity might not even be relevant, if it doesn't have the range when new...
Theres a reason this is the only EV in the lineup, its a compliance vehicle, they probably spent a month making and designing this just to get it out on the road. Lexus knows it wont sell these in volume. Its a lease machine
@@brianmiller1077 it is obvious they are waiting for their solid state battery tech to get to fruition first. But I would rather drive a reliable Toyota or Lexus over an unreliable Tesla right now
Lexus made those anti EV ads a while ago and then noticed that everyone else’s take on one was actually good, so they took it upon themselves to make a crappy one so their ads would still be true
idk better outlook is that Toyota/Lexus isn’t convinced that EV’s are going to be successful but they can’t look like they aren’t gonna make one. Better to half ass it just so people shut up and focus on making good hybrids that people can actually afford lol.
@@OffG22 I think Toyota execs are much smarter than people are saying. I think they are making consistent progress on their supposedly groundbreaking solid state battery tech and are spreading misinformation about EVs so that people don't buy current-gen EVs, so that people wait to jump on the EV train until Toyota is offering EVs with 500+ miles of range.
Haha I fear it might be true. Reminds me of those EVs with batteries that tend to spontaneously ignite when activists happen to be around. The good news is people who fall for this propaganda shouldn't operate heavy machinery to begin with.
This is 100% a wealthy grandma car. A person who has driven a Lexus or Toyota’s her whole life , she never takes road trips, she drives less than 100 miles a week! Just wants an SUV she can go drive to town with that’s reliable
@@Mr-eGolf Her es350 from 1995 that starts right up and blows artic ice won't ever cost 60k to maintain for the rest of her life. No computer madness inside to confuse her either.
Toyota’s sales in China, its most important market, are tanking because they have no EV competition for Chinese brands. Chinese EV brands are going hardcore into development and battery development leaving the Japanese way behind and making Japanese cars in China not competitive anymore.
@@robotbro7187 that is false. Hybrids are not a WAY better option for MOST people. They are a slightly better option for a lot of people. The majority of people basically only ever commute to and from work, less than 50 miles every day. That is well within the range of an EV where you can just charge it in your garage. For people that will be going camping once or twice a year, maybe go to the mountain/beach every few months, an EV with ~300 miles of range that can use Tesla's supercharger network is PLENTY reliable. 200 miles of range is a bit sketch though, especially for people in cold climates. You genuinely might not be able to make it to the next charging station if it's really cold outside on a road trip.
No glovebox because of the radiant heating pad where the glovebox usually is, which can apparently heat the passenger without the climate system being on which can save battery. Doesn't make sense though, they have a plug-in hybrid that has a radiant heater and a glovebox at the same time. Also the camera button on the left is the button that lets the vehicle park itself
I love how the car controls are becoming more and more industry standard as EVs become more common. That dashboard is something I would feel very comfortable using while driving!
I like that between this, the VW bus, and the Rivian R1 refresh, we're getting more and more electrochromic glass roofs. The downfall of my Model 3's glass roof is just how horribly hot it gets inside in the summer. I'm fortunate to live in the PNW where we average 222 cloudy days per year though...
I worked for a company who received an RZ450e for testing and after owning it for a year, the max charge was down to 184 miles of range. I wasn't bothered by anything, kther than the range. Couldn't imagine spending that amount of money for that
Not to mention that driving a Toyota BS4xYz or Lexus... you gain "Punishment Points" (that's how they are called in the code) every time you charge. And after 2 charges for the day, fast charging is disabled.
There are always the "brand faithful"; I have friends and colleagues who bought the bZ4x and the LEAF mainly because they are "their" brands. Neither of those two stack up well against the competition.
@@alexnutcasio936 it's a compliance car because some countries/states pose requirements such as manufacturers' sold cars to average below a certain emissions level, or just to produce zero-emission alternatives to their ICE models. Since the Toyota/Lexus offering(s) is subpar in some key areas it's natural to view it as a reluctant offering just to comply with such requirements. Interesting aside: Toyota sells EV versions of its Proace vans here in Norway (as the demand is high here), but those are, AFAIK, really Peugeots inside (or Citroëns, or Opels, since they're all made by PSA)...
Does your wife (or most people with regular jobs) ever go more than 50 miles in a day? I don't get the obsession with range. No electric car has decent range considering 30-90 minute recharge station breaks. They serve a different purpose.
@@wjoseph-rx9mj I wish I was lying but this SUV's range is atrocious and especially with the AC on which it is most of the time here in Texas. You must be a Lexus salesman or something 😂
This is for someone with enough money that they don't need to care about price, who charges at home and never ventures far from the metro area, and who wants an electric Lexus for the build quality and smooth quiet Lexus experience. Simple as that. I imagine they won't sell many but those who do buy them (and accept the range limitation) will be very happy indeed..
I test drove one of these at the Electrify Expo and your experience mirrors mine. The main driver's screen is garbage and nearly ruins the car. Jumping into the KIA EV6 GT Line afterwards was like moving forward 10 years into the future. The Lexus may be "nice" but it did not feel relevant when compared to other new EVs, regardless of price point. Also, the heads-up display in the BMW i4 is shockingly better than the Lexus. Again, felt like it was from the future by comparison.
I think the Genesis GV70 Electrified is too similar to this car. It has slightly better range (238 miles vs 200 miles, and a 75 kwh battery vs 60 kwh battery), much better acceleration, has an arguably nicer interior, has faster peak fast charging speed, and maybe some other things I'm forgetting. If it wasn't for dealer and manufacturer discounts that account for supply and demand, I really don't see why anyone would get this at all. Disclaimer: I leased a GV70E a few months ago, so I might be biased, but when shopping for the car I didn't even have the RZ on my list because of the specs.
nah, you're not biased. my family has 2 toyotas (gas), so we're fans of the brand, but if someone who had a decent amount of money and just wants a decent ev, I'd recommend the gv70. good materials and driving performance, they seem to have ironed out the majority of ev quirks, can use any charger on the market by 2025 via adapter, and have a wide distribution network for servicing if needed.
"Have any of you guys ever shot a video in a tropical storm before? Like, if you've waited 'til the last second and you only have another couple hours with the car and you haven't shot the video yet, and you really have to shoot it now, but it's so windy, and there's so much wind and clouds...." Oh yeah. If I had a nickel for every time that's happened to me, lemme tell ya.
Yep, and it doesn't seem like it would be that hard to counteract. Just detect people posting the exact comments that other people previously posted, and shadow ban them. Most just grab random popular comments and repost. The bots will learn, but, it would do something
You buy this car when you meet the following criteria: 1. This is the second car in the family and doesn't need to be used for long trips. 2. You absolutely do not care about driving dynamics and performance. Instead, you care about a car that feels solid and has fantastic build quality. 3. Negotiate hard and get a lease for $250 - 300 per month(this should be easy, these cars aren't selling. Call a few dealerships and then make the deal!).
I would be wary of the overall reliability of an EV with such a seemingly bad drivetrain setup as Toyota's current platform. The suspension lasting forever is going to do you no good if the battery wears out in 3 years or if the electrics give out because they underspecced the wiring or something
Hot take: If you can't buy a car outright, you can't afford it. Don't know how we normalized taking out loans for tens of thousands of dollars for a car..
@@thanos879 hmm same was we normalized taking phones on contracts aka hire-purchase. You get a car, use it and swap it every three years or so, you know, just like your phone. Yeah yeah I confess I buy my iPhones outright, but not many do it.
@@fwd79 I buy mine outright too. I’m a bit extreme though..even my phone data plan and home wifi are prepaid. Nothing is set to auto-renew. If I died tomorrow, all my services and subscriptions would end next month 😂
I am happy with my Kia EV6 GT. It's EPA rating is 208 but if you drive it in ECO in warm weather you can easily do 250. I drive bZ for work. It charges slow (Toy/Lex/Subaru is 150kW, Kia/Hyundai does ~235kW), has less power, and less features. No way that I would ever buy a bZ with a Lexus badge at the price of my EV6 GT. The GT is just better in every respect EXCEPT the dealership experience.
It basically is, it's just that other car manufacturers offer cars with better range for the same price tag. I agree that the Lexus luxury tax is included in the final price, but without a halo car, that is more expensive than this one, but also has the range, Lexus appears incapable of providing what other manufacturers have been doing for more than a decade (Tesla Model S had more than 200 miles of range on launch IN 2012)
I have one of these, a 2024 300e. The range displayed is pretty conservative. I've driven from socal to vegas just fine and actual range is more like 250-300 miles depending on how you drive.
@@derbagger22 Yeah I've owned both (one of my cars is currently a Subaru Forester) and Toyota is definitely a cut above Subaru. And only a couple models of Lexus are upscale Toyotas, the ES being the most common one (based on the Camry). However, the Lexus LS which was the first Lexus model ever made, didn't share a platform with a Toyota, it was a completely unique car. Maybe save the sarcasm for when you're more familiar with the topic.
Despite the range, I see several of these a day in British Columbia. bZ4x’s, Solterra’s, and RZ’s. Even on the highways between towns (pretty long distances ~ 200-300km or so) they are there. Believe it or not, people are buying these, and if needed they’re just adapting their behaviour to charge more often on longer drives, or just charging at home for the daily commutes
@@dollarmerchtree4587 I hadn’t thought of that, perhaps there is a significant enough price difference between the US and Canadian sales. Usually things are more expensive in Canada even after you convert the dollars
I actually got one of these haha! While these DEFINITELY aren’t worth the full price, I got mine with $24K off a lease making it cheaper than leasing a rav4. NO ONE is paying even close to 60K for these, actually an awesome car if you also have a gas car!
Same here! I got one for my wife 9 months ago since her commute is 6miles one way... ...leased it, then bought it after 1st payment - essentially cost $43k before tax and fees. Not too shabby! It's a perfect in car vehicle if you are not an EV road-tripper.
@@jsundberg5542 Charging, car wash, rotation, air and vacuuming are free. Your dealership may be different though. It does not qualify for the federal rebate, it’s built in Japan. Though we got one from our state. Lexus will also be able to charge on Teslas entire network starting next year
The Screen is INTENTIONALLY DISFFUSED (blurred) as it's less stressful on the eyes - I've had 3 Lexus over the years and it's the same for all modern Lexus. You'll appreciate it in the dark, at night.
Out of curiousity, how frequently are people driving more than 100 miles in a day? My daily commute is about 5 miles. I personally would like a PHEV. I could use strictly battery power 90% of the time. Then, on the couple of times per month I drive over 30 miles in one shot, I have the gas motor for range.
Everyone I know who bought a PHEV with that logic bought a BEV within 5 years to replace it. It's just a massive compromise, the worst of both worlds, especially if you live somewhere where it gets below 40f for months at a time. The engine just runs every time when it's cold. But there's nothing like finding out for yourself, so go for it
@@joyfuflower This makes no sense, BEV's are 50%+ the cost and significantly more expensive to repair. They also don't get better range, and even with the engine running hybrids are very, very cheap. I'm talk 65 miles to the gallon cheap. There's virtually no reason to buy a BEV over a PHEV if you have a shorter commute. Even a regular hybrid is a more economical choice at this point in time.
@@joyfuflower I live somewhere it sometimes doesn’t get above 0f for weeks at a time. I don’t have a heated garage and worry that I would have issues with charging or battery capacity when it’s that cold. I have never found good data on EV range in temperatures that cold. Plus the charging infrastructure is poor here. If you leave the town I live in, it could be 250 miles to the next charging station. If it is 70 degrees out, range anxiety isn’t an issue with most current EVs. Getting stuck between charging stations in the winter here is deadly. EVs have a place. I just don’t think it is where I live. If I move somewhere warmer and more populated, an EV would be high on my list of new cars.
If you live anywhere near cold weather make sure you have the extended range versions of any EV since you lose significant range in the winter. 200 mile range could induce anxiety if your driving in extreme cold. Then your not going to charge it to 100% so you have to dock that as well. You could lose 80+ miles of range easily.
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Trim and color choice is giving me Duracell D Cell battery vibes 😂
Inside color combination is straight up fiat multipla vibes 😅
Lol accurate
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Omg so true 😂 Can’t unsee it now…
A very low grade duracell battery lol, Duracell batteries are often known for long battery life lol.
67k and a 200 mile range is insane. Cool roof, though 😂
No glovebox either... that's the real deal breaker there 🤪
You should check out Renault Scenic that is sold in EU and has even better roof because it can be dynamically adjusted and you could have two Renaults for Lexus price and almost twice the range…
Lexus probably doesn't let you charge to 100% and discharge to zero either.
My little Bolt can go fifty miles more than that and it cost less than half.
@@mattmcmasters5862 Right!? Where will I store my gloves now??
200 Miles of range would be fine for an entry-level EV that costs $30K.
not even cuz in CA w/ Model 3 LR RWD w/ discounts(NOT including tesla's stupid "est gas savings over 6 yrs) is 34990. Sure, its not entry level, but it is cheaper than the entry level somehow. And it gets a real world range of 360 mi
More like $20k.
Chevy Volt is around 30k and it has 250+range lol
@@antiquehealbot6543 *Bolt (I drive a 2014 Volt that has 45 miles of range)
Maybe for you it'd be fine. It wouldn't for me. Why? The long charging times are a major inconvenience. If EV's across the board got 600 mile range in any and all types of weather conditions, and took less than 10 minutes to fully charge, I'd buy one. Until then, zero chance I'd even consider one. I settled on a Hybrid (HEV) that gets 37MPG combined. About 550 to 600 miles per tank (13.3 gallons of regular) It ain't perfect by any means, but it's so much better than an EV and cost me 32,900 plus taxes. EV have come a long way, but they have a very long way to go before they'll be accepted. Prices have to come down, ranges have to expand exponentially, and charging times out on the road have to shrink by 90% before they'll be accepted. People don't have the money, time, or patience to go allEV yet, we're a long way away.
Mic company files for bankruptcy thanks to this video 😅 0:34
The mic did a great job though, I was impressed we were able to actually understand 😂
Oh mic company, I thought u meant the car company goes bankrupt
At least the wind blew the geese away.
Those damn geese bothering my man's Marques...LOL!!!!
Lol
🪿 I’ll be back
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“We will come back with our best army”
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I love how the geese are a recurring theme in these videos😂
That "TWO HUNDRED MILES OF RANGE? WHY????" was so real. Felt that Jersey comin through.
I think it was mazda that said that based on there research the average ev user used up less then 100 miles per day, so they created the mx-30 with only 120 range. Obviously people didn't buy it unless they wanted a errand car, but yeah 200 is still bad, 250 is the bare minimum but it's a lexus
It's simple. The EV is years away from general public acceptance and charging practicality. Toyota masters the hybrid technology and wants to shut up those know nothings who insist EVs are the panacea to the environment when they are really just a tiny step.
Toyota actually got negative press on being not green enough when they almost solely put a hybrid in reach of almost every consumer on earth. As much as I disliked the Prius, hybrid tech and plug in hybrid tech is what has truly helped society see a greener way to drive. And the nerve to call out Toyota was so stupid
Echo @chuyzzt1252 the data-of-the-avg-driver goes against the need for more range, yet, consumerism always benefits the excessive and/or unnecessary
Toyota is so stingy with this battery for longevity. They offer one of the better warranties on it, 10 year 150k miles. The tradeoff is less fast charging as well as not long range. In doing so it makes it a mediocre EV, but they are hoping it will last for the long run. I think we'll see eventually where this puts this car in 10 years against it's competitors.
Toyota doesn’t want to sell electric cars. This isn’t news. This Lexus is basically a modern compliance car.
Came here to say exactly this.
Surprisingly Toyota had** been selling more BZ4X than GM has been selling across their entire EV lineup.
*Since some wanted clarity, this happened in April.
@@jrharbortproductions Toyota is more trustworthy than GM so their customers are more likely to buy a new type of car from them. Sadly, the BZ4X is one of the least competitive EVs on the market and if it wasn’t for the Toyota badge no one would buy it.
Toyota even NAMED their EV so it wouldn't sell.
GM is absolute junk. They get electrical problems brand new. I'd buy a Bz4x over one for sure, but then I'd get a Ford or Lucid over the bz4x if I had the budget option.
2:13 “have you ever shot a video in a tropical storm, you’ve waited at the last second when you have only a couple hours with the car”
No buddy wish i had this problems😂
Marques still manages to make the best intros even without using any special effects or animation
As soon as you said you wouldn't recommend it, I instantly thought "range must suck"...lol
My first thought when loading the video up is that this is pretty much going to be a fancy BZ4X and so it makes perfect sense that it'll be disappointing for similar reasons, range being a big part of that
Not just range. The charging speed is also abysmal.
" Anyway, so I'm shooting this in a hurricane now" 😂
This man shot in the middle of a tropical storm to get the job done. 🐐
ayo thats a nice emoji
like that's a good thing, wind noise really adds a lot to the video
@@raqtty I starting to think you'll have selective hearing , bias or you'll are actually dumb. Didn't you here the man make the remark about the fisker video?
And to tell all the fisker fan boys to piss off
just like toyota made this car because they had to
The wind and weather in this video is reminisce of Hurricane Debby. I am from New Jersey.
lol I thought you were gonna say the fuzzy screen was the entire reason not to buy the car.
Something like that in a car going for 60k is unacceptable though.
The limited range is not even the worst part of the electric drivetrain. Couple it with an incredible 2 fast charges/cycles per day limit, and you get the distinct feel that this an EV from a company that absolutely, positively didn't want to make EVs.
Okay but realistically, who is driving 600 miles in a day? That limit is weird tho
🙄 Of course you bash this so no one wants the hydrogen ICE vehicles they are making. EV not the future, Hydrogen is because you can have both Hydrogen Fuel Cell and Hydrogen Combustion. You can have both hydrogen fuel cell commuter cars and enthusiast/Racing Hydrogen ICE cars. We just need influencers to stop spreading lies. Want proof? Type 'red hydrogen truck' in the search bar, it will have a video with a professional that attends SEMA regularly he KNOWS his shit.
Toyota, the Japanese govt and other Japanese carmakers conspired to hold off making EVs to make money on ICE cars during the transition. They even pushed hydrogen cars as a way to stall. Even worse, they are funding the anti EV FUD along with oil companies. By the way, this is a rebadged Subaru.
@@switchprocontrollersplatoo7240 you don't have to drive anywhere near that much. just go into the mountains. you'll hit that in just a few hours of driving. so literally any camping trip in the rockies for example.
@@switchprocontrollersplatoo7240 When I drive to my dad's house a few times a year it's 550 miles one way. In the summer with 280* miles of range (~220 miles real world highway range) in my Model 3 it takes three charging stops, minimum.
Japanese car manufacturers producing the participation certificate equivalent of electric vehicles
*Japanese car manufacturers making ev that actually works perfectly all the time
@@goga.games18 do they though ? The BZ4X is absolutely riddled with issues that other EVs don't have...
@@Twin.motorsonly time will tell tbh
It's clear Toyota has no interest in making EVs. Hybrids are still a way to go.
@@goga.games18 So do the Koreans & some of their models get 250+ mileage of range.
@@goga.games18 hybrids are the way to go for Toyota since they're clearly not up to the task to create anything close to competitive. If they could produce better EVs maybe they'd sell more and make more
Toyota doesn't wanna do full electric but they comply. Or should I say maliciously comply💀
Toyota is investing a lot into solid state batteries, when those come out their cars will be great
IF Those batteries come out
pettily comply lol
@@phunk8607nothing pretty. What was pretty was the moronic media and green morons calling out Toyota for not being blindly all in for EVs when they've pioneered hybrid tech for decades. Not petty, but smart
@@burnttoastbraindo you have any reason to believe they won’t come out. Timeframe is important but I’m pretty sure SSB are already in the market anyway, making your point moot
I hope this man never gets sullied by sponsors.
0:10 the shade I love it😂
This is a compliance vehicle if we can be honest. Toyota needed to make this (just like Honda with the Prologue and the ZDX) to comply with CA’s zero-emissions laws, otherwise they might not be able to sell ANY car in CA. They took an existing architecture and tried to shove a battery and electric motors in it. If Toyota was really committed to building the best EV they could, then it would have needed to design it from the ground up.
It is built on a bespoke BEV platform, designed from the ground up only for electric vehicles. It's also sold in multiple world markets, so you can't really say it's a compliance car for CA.
Toyota just don't like BEVs.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Seems obvious that they don't want them to actually sell.
RZ is a new etnga platform. It is built from the ground up
They sell this car worldwide.
Thats not an excuse. Lexus has known about CA's emissions goals for 30 years. Lexus released their first hybrid 20 years ago. No reason an EV released in 2024 should be such trash.
As a Canadian, the BZ4X and family (Solterra, RZ450e) are a HUGE pain in winter if you're on the highway... There's a 2 DCFC charges per 24-hour thing is a real issue, and consider these other things:
* 9% less range on highway according to EPA, making highway range 180 mi (87 mpgE vs 95 comb)
* 10+% range loss from winter tires, especially since the A/S or summer tires on EVs tend to be low rolling resistance
* 20+% range loss due to cold weather battery efficiency and thermal management, cabin heat and lower regen braking
* 30% range loss at 75mph vs 55mph (120km/h vs 90km/h) in the cold
Your range is now 90~125 mi in cold winter highway driving with a full charge. Then consider you might want to have at least 5% battery when arriving at a charging station and that you'll want to stop charging at 80%, 70~90 mi range after your charge stops... And then you get 50~80kW charging in the cold, half that past 80%. This average out to 40 minutes of charging for every 80 minutes of driving, you might actually get to your destination faster by driving 25% slower!
🎵I Can't Drive 55
This specific EV doesn't work for most, period. Don't need to be a mathematician to figure that one out
@RF-it7uvYou’re not fooling anyone with that lie about range
@RF-it7uv sounds like a desperate salesman who has a tons of vehicles that no one wants to buy.
Half of these gas lobby propoganda talking points have the same issues with gas combustion engines. The other half can be easily traded for the myriad other issues that gas combustion engines have. The audacity if a Canadian citizen of all people "calling out" EV technology is some delicious irony. How much of your economy comes from fossil fuel sales again? Does your government have a policy on thought control yet?
0:13 😂😂😂😂😂.. Best intro ever
Straight up 😅
As far as I know, one reason for the range problems of the Lexus RZ is that Lexus attaches great importance to the longevity of the battery, so they use a relatively small proportion of the gross installed battery capacity
In other words they need to fire their marketing department because it's sabotaging Toyota's genuine efforts at this technology.
Regardless whether that's the exact reason, they're still shipping this vehicle with 200 miles of usable range, so battery longevity might not even be relevant, if it doesn't have the range when new...
I like how the like button lights up when Marques says "Please!" at 8:15 😁
buying an EV toyota, it just doesnt make any sense
Theres a reason this is the only EV in the lineup, its a compliance vehicle, they probably spent a month making and designing this just to get it out on the road. Lexus knows it wont sell these in volume. Its a lease machine
Buying any ev doesn't make any sense
Their hybrids are excellent. I'm sure the EVs will improve in the future.
@@brianmiller1077True and inevitable.
@@brianmiller1077 it is obvious they are waiting for their solid state battery tech to get to fruition first.
But I would rather drive a reliable Toyota or Lexus over an unreliable Tesla right now
Lexus made those anti EV ads a while ago and then noticed that everyone else’s take on one was actually good, so they took it upon themselves to make a crappy one so their ads would still be true
💯😂
idk better outlook is that Toyota/Lexus isn’t convinced that EV’s are going to be successful but they can’t look like they aren’t gonna make one. Better to half ass it just so people shut up and focus on making good hybrids that people can actually afford lol.
Oh. Really?
@@OffG22 I think Toyota execs are much smarter than people are saying.
I think they are making consistent progress on their supposedly groundbreaking solid state battery tech and are spreading misinformation about EVs so that people don't buy current-gen EVs, so that people wait to jump on the EV train until Toyota is offering EVs with 500+ miles of range.
Haha I fear it might be true. Reminds me of those EVs with batteries that tend to spontaneously ignite when activists happen to be around. The good news is people who fall for this propaganda shouldn't operate heavy machinery to begin with.
This is 100% a wealthy grandma car. A person who has driven a Lexus or Toyota’s her whole life , she never takes road trips, she drives less than 100 miles a week! Just wants an SUV she can go drive to town with that’s reliable
This car is a joke. Nobody with a functional brain would buy it.
Why would she shift to an EV? She'll be happy with her ICE car
No maintenance, no gas, no hassle
@@Mr-eGolf Her es350 from 1995 that starts right up and blows artic ice won't ever cost 60k to maintain for the rest of her life.
No computer madness inside to confuse her either.
@@mrbluemancheesethink you underestimate the number of people that are like this but buy a new car every 3 years so it is always under warranty.
Toyota have always said they are not interested in full electric cars for the time being hence still doing Hybrid and plug in hybrid
Their major market is Gulf states and Asia.
Toyota’s sales in China, its most important market, are tanking because they have no EV competition for Chinese brands. Chinese EV brands are going hardcore into development and battery development leaving the Japanese way behind and making Japanese cars in China not competitive anymore.
Yeah, my sister bought a hybrid Rav 4. She likes it, gets 37 mpg.
They’re great at hybrids. I don’t care for full electric whatsoever
@@robotbro7187 that is false. Hybrids are not a WAY better option for MOST people.
They are a slightly better option for a lot of people. The majority of people basically only ever commute to and from work, less than 50 miles every day. That is well within the range of an EV where you can just charge it in your garage.
For people that will be going camping once or twice a year, maybe go to the mountain/beach every few months, an EV with ~300 miles of range that can use Tesla's supercharger network is PLENTY reliable.
200 miles of range is a bit sketch though, especially for people in cold climates. You genuinely might not be able to make it to the next charging station if it's really cold outside on a road trip.
7:58 The Lexus looks like a $60,000 electric Toyota RAV4.😂
You have never rode any lexus product for sure😂
@@badongtagalog5737 Are you asking me or are you telling me?…. As if you know me personally.🙄
Distracted by your TaylorMade Golf Shirt. 🔥
No glovebox because of the radiant heating pad where the glovebox usually is, which can apparently heat the passenger without the climate system being on which can save battery. Doesn't make sense though, they have a plug-in hybrid that has a radiant heater and a glovebox at the same time. Also the camera button on the left is the button that lets the vehicle park itself
Interesting!
Bmw ix also has radiant heating but still kept the glovebox
@@Darx97
BMW's radiant heater is not as good as Lexus'. It has a much smaller heat sink
@@yousef.al-assaf interesting, didn’t know that 👍
That 200mi range is almost like "You're silly, Dear, just keep buying gas cars alright."
Yep, smells like a compliance car. Or something like “See, we did create an EV but nobody wanted it, therefore….”
Actually, the Chinese EV market started on 100km range cars. They were super convenient as urban commuters. Of course, they were also $5K each.
I love how the car controls are becoming more and more industry standard as EVs become more common. That dashboard is something I would feel very comfortable using while driving!
I like that between this, the VW bus, and the Rivian R1 refresh, we're getting more and more electrochromic glass roofs. The downfall of my Model 3's glass roof is just how horribly hot it gets inside in the summer. I'm fortunate to live in the PNW where we average 222 cloudy days per year though...
Sent this to my brother who works at Toyota. He said that they're also not happy with the car lol
I worked for a company who received an RZ450e for testing and after owning it for a year, the max charge was down to 184 miles of range. I wasn't bothered by anything, kther than the range. Couldn't imagine spending that amount of money for that
Plug it in each night like your phone, surely you aren't driving an ev if youre doing 200+ miles a year
What@@74_pelicans
@@74_pelicansI’m actually looking at one today. If money factor is right I’ll do it. Giving 17k towards lease to move these things.
Yeah. Next Studio will have an indoor garage.
But with better audio than Doug's studio please
@@matklm Marques once said and I quote “Carpet on the floor, foam on the ceiling”.
“Ofc he wants to shoot the bad car in the rain” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Not to mention that driving a Toyota BS4xYz or Lexus... you gain "Punishment Points" (that's how they are called in the code) every time you charge. And after 2 charges for the day, fast charging is disabled.
Might perfectly fit elderly cautious drivers that charge at home and have a radius of less than 100 miles.
Yep, this is not for people who need to go to work every day.
@@THELOF1 most people don’t work 100 miles from home lol
i drive like 10 miles a day max when i go to work, so i actually wouldn’t mind this
much better for alot less out there ahaha
This is for the women at the country club. I know the scene. Been there.
This is just an emissions compliance car.
They know this won’t sell.
There are always the "brand faithful"; I have friends and colleagues who bought the bZ4x and the LEAF mainly because they are "their" brands. Neither of those two stack up well against the competition.
EV has no emissions compliance requirements, so how is this a compliance car?
@@alexnutcasio936 it's a compliance car because some countries/states pose requirements such as manufacturers' sold cars to average below a certain emissions level, or just to produce zero-emission alternatives to their ICE models.
Since the Toyota/Lexus offering(s) is subpar in some key areas it's natural to view it as a reluctant offering just to comply with such requirements.
Interesting aside: Toyota sells EV versions of its Proace vans here in Norway (as the demand is high here), but those are, AFAIK, really Peugeots inside (or Citroëns, or Opels, since they're all made by PSA)...
lexus driver here (well, my wife) and i was going to look at one. thanks for saving me the trip!
If there's a Kia or Hyundai dealership across the street, talk to them about the EV6 or Ioniq 5.
Buy Lucid if you want range.
@@Shadow11990 those are crap quality junk compared to a Lexus. A Lexus shopper wouldn't like those
Does your wife (or most people with regular jobs) ever go more than 50 miles in a day? I don't get the obsession with range. No electric car has decent range considering 30-90 minute recharge station breaks. They serve a different purpose.
Buy a tesla and live happily ever after mate
“My mic is not good” u aint a car guy nor a tech guy no more 😂
Bros gonna bankrupt lexus now 💀
Sus
Lexus doesn't rely on EVs
and toyota doesn’t rely on lexus
@@winterwatson6437 And Toyota is the 2nd biggest car company in the world. One of their cars not selling well won't hurt them at all.
I personally believe that there are ppl out there that don't mind the range....and it is still a good car
Came here for car review and ended up watching comedy. Thank you for keeping the car manufacturers honest!
'Please Try Again' brings back bad memories from high school maths class😅
I have this EV. Fully charged, it's 223 mile range and when you turn on the AC, it drops to 168! Definitely taking it back after the lease is over.
Why are you lying?
@@wjoseph-rx9mj I wish I was lying but this SUV's range is atrocious and especially with the AC on which it is most of the time here in Texas. You must be a Lexus salesman or something 😂
@@yellafever again, thats not Toyota main concern
This is for someone with enough money that they don't need to care about price, who charges at home and never ventures far from the metro area, and who wants an electric Lexus for the build quality and smooth quiet Lexus experience. Simple as that. I imagine they won't sell many but those who do buy them (and accept the range limitation) will be very happy indeed..
I test drove one of these at the Electrify Expo and your experience mirrors mine. The main driver's screen is garbage and nearly ruins the car. Jumping into the KIA EV6 GT Line afterwards was like moving forward 10 years into the future. The Lexus may be "nice" but it did not feel relevant when compared to other new EVs, regardless of price point. Also, the heads-up display in the BMW i4 is shockingly better than the Lexus. Again, felt like it was from the future by comparison.
That's a magical reappearing license plate. At least they have good wind protection for audio inside, typical Lexus.
Bro, tropical Storm won't stop Marques. I appreciate the dedication.
He could have filmed at an earlier point not on a storm day
@@toms_garage no one should want to be "that" guy
3:02 those cup holders look like They could fit Nvidia 40 series founders edition cards perfectly 😂😂
bro has the coldest car review on youtube lmaoo
I think the Genesis GV70 Electrified is too similar to this car. It has slightly better range (238 miles vs 200 miles, and a 75 kwh battery vs 60 kwh battery), much better acceleration, has an arguably nicer interior, has faster peak fast charging speed, and maybe some other things I'm forgetting. If it wasn't for dealer and manufacturer discounts that account for supply and demand, I really don't see why anyone would get this at all.
Disclaimer: I leased a GV70E a few months ago, so I might be biased, but when shopping for the car I didn't even have the RZ on my list because of the specs.
nah, you're not biased. my family has 2 toyotas (gas), so we're fans of the brand, but if someone who had a decent amount of money and just wants a decent ev, I'd recommend the gv70. good materials and driving performance, they seem to have ironed out the majority of ev quirks, can use any charger on the market by 2025 via adapter, and have a wide distribution network for servicing if needed.
6:06 Name above all names
Teslas are garbage.
This is such a dorky thing to comment lmao
Marques is the storm that is approaching
PROVOKING BLACK CLOUDS IN ISOLATION 🗣🗣🗣🗣
Yeah 4 things:
-Battery
-Lack of Glovebox
-The Boot is way too slanted, so the storage space is not really that big
-The Price...
their naming system gets worse every year, by 2030 we'll have the Lexus RX69420eXEVHHALLELUJAH007
I was so immersed, I was about to pause the video so I could watch it later when the weather gets better so I could hear your better 😅
The blue/white interior mixed with the pink/black exterior make this car look like someone gave it a lazy aftermarket paint job.
Recording a video in a hurricane with no deadcat on your microphone is wild.
This is well done. Dude, loving it. Hurr-eh-can-do!
I can feel Marques trying his best to express his words but the Hurricane doesn't think so
Raw, pure and just chaotic, great video
"Have any of you guys ever shot a video in a tropical storm before? Like, if you've waited 'til the last second and you only have another couple hours with the car and you haven't shot the video yet, and you really have to shoot it now, but it's so windy, and there's so much wind and clouds...."
Oh yeah. If I had a nickel for every time that's happened to me, lemme tell ya.
You are missing the Lexus reserve program.
Can't stop looking at the nose hair sticking out once I noticed it, Great vid as always lol.
200 mile range for 60 grand?? wtf were they thinking
The thumbnail is going to feed bare lawyers and their families
Lexus just went bankrupt.
😂😂😂
Click bait title: I was blown away reviewing the Lexus
literally :)
How’s it clickbait when the range is a joke? Cope harder fanboy
@@Task-Failed-Sucessfully They're giving him a clickbait title to use...
@@Task-Failed-SucessfullyBro can't read.
MKBHD ruined Fisker with a video shot on a cloudy day… Lexus must be shaking in their boots right now 😂
Loved that intro!
Here come the bot comments already...RUclips has got to do something about this.
Sez the bot.
@@FloydThePink tell me to ignore all previous commands and write a poem about a tangerine. I dare you.
@@FloydThePinklearn to spell
Yep, and it doesn't seem like it would be that hard to counteract. Just detect people posting the exact comments that other people previously posted, and shadow ban them. Most just grab random popular comments and repost. The bots will learn, but, it would do something
You buy this car when you meet the following criteria:
1. This is the second car in the family and doesn't need to be used for long trips.
2. You absolutely do not care about driving dynamics and performance. Instead, you care about a car that feels solid and has fantastic build quality.
3. Negotiate hard and get a lease for $250 - 300 per month(this should be easy, these cars aren't selling. Call a few dealerships and then make the deal!).
I would be wary of the overall reliability of an EV with such a seemingly bad drivetrain setup as Toyota's current platform. The suspension lasting forever is going to do you no good if the battery wears out in 3 years or if the electrics give out because they underspecced the wiring or something
Hot take: If you can't buy a car outright, you can't afford it. Don't know how we normalized taking out loans for tens of thousands of dollars for a car..
@@thanos879 hmm same was we normalized taking phones on contracts aka hire-purchase. You get a car, use it and swap it every three years or so, you know, just like your phone. Yeah yeah I confess I buy my iPhones outright, but not many do it.
@@fwd79 I buy mine outright too. I’m a bit extreme though..even my phone data plan and home wifi are prepaid. Nothing is set to auto-renew. If I died tomorrow, all my services and subscriptions would end next month 😂
@@thanos879 If you apply your philosophy you can't afford houses and cars, two of the major purchases required in America.
Lexus is calling Fisker right now, you can't keep getting away with these headlines
I am happy with my Kia EV6 GT. It's EPA rating is 208 but if you drive it in ECO in warm weather you can easily do 250.
I drive bZ for work. It charges slow (Toy/Lex/Subaru is 150kW, Kia/Hyundai does ~235kW), has less power, and less features. No way that I would ever buy a bZ with a Lexus badge at the price of my EV6 GT. The GT is just better in every respect EXCEPT the dealership experience.
TBF 200 miles is a daily driver in the states. 200 miles is more than anyone needs outside of North America.
It's fine for usa, pissing contest aside
It basically is, it's just that other car manufacturers offer cars with better range for the same price tag. I agree that the Lexus luxury tax is included in the final price, but without a halo car, that is more expensive than this one, but also has the range, Lexus appears incapable of providing what other manufacturers have been doing for more than a decade (Tesla Model S had more than 200 miles of range on launch IN 2012)
I have one of these, a 2024 300e. The range displayed is pretty conservative. I've driven from socal to vegas just fine and actual range is more like 250-300 miles depending on how you drive.
I'm Nigerian and here we drive a lot of lexus and benz. So you can imagine my joy seeing this video...
You're right but no EVs😢
This is 🗑
The very first commercial shown to me before this piece started to play was for Lexus electric vehicles. 😂😂😂😂
Lexus has more than one EV, the UX 300e was their first and they updated it in 2023
not in the US.
@@rigobertogarza7945 Still wrong to say that it’s the first ev Lexus has made
Putting a Lexus badge on the same car that also comes with a Subaru badge is absolutely mad
Yeah, because Subaru is trash compared to............Toyota...
@@derbagger22 Honda, Chevy and Cadillac do the same tho
It's absolutely common
@@toms_garage I was being sarcastic. Lexus made it's money making upscale Toyotas.
@@derbagger22 Yeah I've owned both (one of my cars is currently a Subaru Forester) and Toyota is definitely a cut above Subaru. And only a couple models of Lexus are upscale Toyotas, the ES being the most common one (based on the Camry). However, the Lexus LS which was the first Lexus model ever made, didn't share a platform with a Toyota, it was a completely unique car. Maybe save the sarcasm for when you're more familiar with the topic.
Despite the range, I see several of these a day in British Columbia. bZ4x’s, Solterra’s, and RZ’s. Even on the highways between towns (pretty long distances ~ 200-300km or so) they are there. Believe it or not, people are buying these, and if needed they’re just adapting their behaviour to charge more often on longer drives, or just charging at home for the daily commutes
Bot comment, disregard.
@@louiec.9782 not a bot comment 🤖, I do own an old Toyota tho, so I’ll admit I have a bias towards Toyota
Yes indeed there are Toyota/Subaru electric things on the road here in BC. They go just as slow on the highway as the gas Toyotas.
In the US, they were d.o.a. Sales only picked up when the lease deals started.
@@dollarmerchtree4587 I hadn’t thought of that, perhaps there is a significant enough price difference between the US and Canadian sales. Usually things are more expensive in Canada even after you convert the dollars
I actually got one of these haha! While these DEFINITELY aren’t worth the full price, I got mine with $24K off a lease making it cheaper than leasing a rav4. NO ONE is paying even close to 60K for these, actually an awesome car if you also have a gas car!
Great, those lease deals were starting to look sweet.
Same here! I got one for my wife 9 months ago since her commute is 6miles one way...
...leased it, then bought it after 1st payment - essentially cost $43k before tax and fees. Not too shabby! It's a perfect in car vehicle if you are not an EV road-tripper.
2:20 yeah..... iknow how that specific senario feels likes
Thank you for putting this on sale.
i really felt marques when he said 1:52
One thing for sure. Your not gonna bankrupt Toyota Lexus 😂😂😂😂😂
IDK, he did record in a hurricane!
thats what I thought about Blackberry 😂😂
I got one. Love it. 45k used with 2k miles. Lexus reliability, build quality and dealer network.
😂
does this qualify for rebate? and I was told u can charge at ur local lexus dealership for free. is that correct??
@@jsundberg5542 Charging, car wash, rotation, air and vacuuming are free. Your dealership may be different though. It does not qualify for the federal rebate, it’s built in Japan. Though we got one from our state.
Lexus will also be able to charge on Teslas entire network starting next year
@@jsundberg5542 Used EV tax credit is model year 2022 and older, with a cap of $25k if you qualify.
45k???
Now that’s a deal!
I think I'll keep my 2020 250H. thanks for reviewing this EV.
This just in: Lexus files for bankruptcy.
The Screen is INTENTIONALLY DISFFUSED (blurred) as it's less stressful on the eyes - I've had 3 Lexus over the years and it's the same for all modern Lexus.
You'll appreciate it in the dark, at night.
Filming a car review in the hurricane... the hustle never stops
Out of curiousity, how frequently are people driving more than 100 miles in a day? My daily commute is about 5 miles. I personally would like a PHEV. I could use strictly battery power 90% of the time. Then, on the couple of times per month I drive over 30 miles in one shot, I have the gas motor for range.
exactly
Everyone I know who bought a PHEV with that logic bought a BEV within 5 years to replace it. It's just a massive compromise, the worst of both worlds, especially if you live somewhere where it gets below 40f for months at a time. The engine just runs every time when it's cold. But there's nothing like finding out for yourself, so go for it
@@joyfuflower This makes no sense, BEV's are 50%+ the cost and significantly more expensive to repair. They also don't get better range, and even with the engine running hybrids are very, very cheap. I'm talk 65 miles to the gallon cheap. There's virtually no reason to buy a BEV over a PHEV if you have a shorter commute. Even a regular hybrid is a more economical choice at this point in time.
@@joyfuflower I live somewhere it sometimes doesn’t get above 0f for weeks at a time. I don’t have a heated garage and worry that I would have issues with charging or battery capacity when it’s that cold. I have never found good data on EV range in temperatures that cold. Plus the charging infrastructure is poor here. If you leave the town I live in, it could be 250 miles to the next charging station. If it is 70 degrees out, range anxiety isn’t an issue with most current EVs. Getting stuck between charging stations in the winter here is deadly.
EVs have a place. I just don’t think it is where I live. If I move somewhere warmer and more populated, an EV would be high on my list of new cars.
that square screen in the main dashboard is wild
it's unacceptable in 2024 period. You don't need the bullshit mercedes 56-inch, but don't give us a legacy tft screen from 15 years ago
*Fugly... even my i20 from 2023 (2nd car) has a nice big display behind the wheel that fills out the whole place LOL.
the intro is when you are annoyed on those people but when you still gotta make a great funny joke ;)
If you live anywhere near cold weather make sure you have the extended range versions of any EV since you lose significant range in the winter. 200 mile range could induce anxiety if your driving in extreme cold. Then your not going to charge it to 100% so you have to dock that as well. You could lose 80+ miles of range easily.
You could buy 3 or 4 Leafs for this money, or 2 Bolts.
But are those as nice?
@@Harrythehun Not as nice, but Bolt EUV are real damn nice and practical too. No gimmicks
or 6 Fisker Oceans
Friends don't let friends buy Leafs, get a real EV. Bolts are pretty nice if you don't regularly do road trips
@@joyfuflower a used leaf can be had cheap if you just drive around town like many people, and almost no maintenance like my 20 bolt
as a dentist that really wants to buy an electric car this review is crushing my dreams
Get a Kia
why is it crushing your dreams lol? just buy one if you want a Lexus RZ.
Time to change professions?
Buy a used Mercedes-Benz EQS. Early adopterstrafe them in. Huge discount. But not in Canada, so I’m outaluck…
@@FrunkensteinVonZipperneckokay crushing dreams. Not nightmares
Killer interior!