Grenfell Tower fire survivor wants to turn site into ‘floating’ memorial garden
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- Опубликовано: 10 окт 2024
- Almost four years since 72 people died in the Grenfell Tower fire, a decision looms about what should be done with the structure itself - in a way that honours those who lost their lives.
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Some of the survivors and bereaved from the Grenfell Next of Kin group are clear about their vision; transforming the tower into a living vertical garden, that stands as a national monument to the tragedy.
But they're worried the government has already made up its mind to pull the building down. Fatima Manji has been to meet Marcio Gomes who came up with the idea.
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If structurally possible and with a low maintenance cost, this would be great.
Great idea. The garden might be modest, but keeping the tower as a memorial in a new form is creative.
Considering the plastic cladding essentially killed the victims, covering the ruins with flowers as a permanent memorial makes sense. Hoping that's the way they do it.
It’s very telling how more than four years on nothing has been done to memorialise all those people lost . It needs to be kept as a reminder of what happens when council cut corners to save money . It cost lives
The survivors should be able to choose the memorial they think best. I am sure if the Tories don't pay, public subscription will. On a personal note, I think it's a great idea; imposing & beautiful
They can so can the victims family they all have to agree fully on it by 2022 or it’s getting pulled down and then they will have decided what happens with the site
It needs to be removed, regardless of what people want. The structure is damaged and adding more weight will do it no good
Exactly my thoughts, that would be dangerous. Mb make a small alley on that place with a fountain or with natural pond.
Just knock it down its a eye sore and quite frankly I don't think the local people want a reminder of death everyday
For one thing, to pull the building down due to "safety concerns" is so incredibly insensitive to the victims and survivors who raised safety concerns for years prior to that tragedy. If viable, the survivors should decide and if this is what they all agree to, the council must do it ASAP. No more pandering to the rich. Grenfell survivors have not been looked after before or since the inferno, anyone can see how preventable it was and Kensington Chelsea didn't care about these tenants. This is the very least that should be done to perhaps help to ease their trauma. I think it's a brilliant idea
I lived opposite grenfell, made friends with people from there. Think of them often. Although not living there any longer. Still remember. No justice 4 those people, yet!!! Dealing with corrupt systems ❤❤❤💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
it sounds a beautiful idea, and if the reinforced concrete is still sound i hope they go for it.
A wonderful idea that can bring moments of reflective joy, as nature heals over the current concrete scar.
I like the idea. But adding more weight to the building isnt a smart choice. Adding more weight to that tower is dangerous, because too much weight on it could make the building collapse.
Maybe they can tear it down and make a beautiful garden?
He's a hero,he saved his family and neighbours❤❤❤❤
No destroy the tower and build a parking lot. That’s the attitude of the UK since nobody went to prison for mass murder.
???? Your saying instead of putting a beautiful memorial of those young kids and adults who died shouldnt be there and they replace the memorial with a parking lot??
Oh sorry i read that wrong im just upset i lost a few loves ones
@@avizv Parking Lot makes more sense when nobody went to prison for mass murder. Justice Not Served. Why have a memorial when the government didn’t recognized a crime?
I just cry to this day my heart bleeds. This is national tragedy that should never be wiped out of our memory. It’s a great idea
Good idea, but how long will that building last before it becomes unsafe?
It needs to be fully looked into and thought through.
Sprinkler systems out of the question? Or should we just cross our fingers and hope it doesn't happen again?
I think that would be nice and for Latimer Road Tube Station to be renamed to the Grenfell Tower station
Good idea. Would like to hear other ideas as well.
I always thought that the building would be taken down, and have a memorial exactly where the building was like a war memorial for those lost and survived
If independent structural engineers find it’s not possible, then it should be taken down, the space levelled and made into a memorial park for the community.
Kinda reminds me of the USS Arizona, a permanent memorial where the victims are entombed. I think a memorial reflecting pool could work too. It’s def up to the survivors and families.
I love this idea! Let’s push this!!
It's a shame that this couple ended up breaking up.
What could they make?? How about make sure this never happens again and make amends the best they can to those that lost everything and loved ones first
A new development should be
Built for the prior surviving residents with a momorial garden
I am shocked the structure us still
Standing it is just a bad reminder to those who barley survived
Rip
It should be just pulled down... Why keep a burned-out derelict high rise structure as a reminder of the tragedy that took place there? Build a small memorial where it once stood instead!
Put the tories in jail
Rather than symbolic actions it would be better to deal with the cladding on other buildings before another fire happens.
That should be done anyways. This is what the residents want. They lost their community - they need to grieve.
They're already doing that.
Sounds wonderful!
For people confused the survivors and the victims families have a say in what happens to grenfell they all have to agree on what they want by 2022 now otherwise the tower is being pulled down and then they will have to decide what happens to the site
Ask the folks who SUFFERED.
Easy...
If you REALLY care.🕵🏽♂️
They did suffer. They lost their unborn baby. Listen to the video again.
Please make in to something beautiful xx I feel like a compromise would be to plant a MASSIVE tree, like a giant tree, surrounded by a beautiful memorial garden with a lake
That´s such a wonderfull idea.. If it works out then it would be an impressive sight
I think the building should be taken down as it will be a reminder of the sadness and horror the people went through
Its to be given away to a private developer who has close links to a cabinet minister but understand that a small plaque will be placed somewhere near .
These feel good stories are insulting as they stir-up false hope. The residents were given a settlement to avoid future lawsuits. Those in power are not interested in what they would like. At some point the land will be reclaimed for market-rate housing with some sort of plaque and event commemorating the deaths on the site. How many people have gone to jail for the poor management of the facility and the sub-standard cladding - NONE? Despite the overwhelming evidence, the former owners can't get justice.
wow 4 years already
Nice way to remember grenfell
That's an excellent idea.! 💡
💚💚💚💚💚 beautiful ideas
I think it should be taken down. It's an ugly reminder of what happened. I don't think it would be structurally safe either. A memorial park or splash park would be more appropriate.
No im sorry 😭😭😭😭😭
Let it support life
I support the idea
lovely idea ❤
Class B should be avoided at all costs as it gives you serious mental health issues
What’s class B??
Great idea 💚💚💚
Beautiful idea.
Bright idea 💡
Brilliant idea
Yeah nice but concrete will always succumb to nature and become a hazard to all the walks and buildings below - sorry guys - bad idea. However as a compromise, why not take 5 floors away each 2 years, so the floating garden can happen, but with the recognition that it cannot be forever.
Great idea
I still can't believe they only had two pathetic fire hoses trying to put out a towering inferno. There needed to be at least 8 hoses on each side of the burning tower. How the Fire Service got away without any punnishment for their incompetence just shows how corrupt the system is - they will always defend themselves first even when they fail so miserably. They had so much time and resources to put it out yet they just deployed two pathetic hoses - TWO!!!!
Any idea how much water pressure that you'd be left with if you had 32 hoses in use?
Could I ask where you got the idea that there were only 2 in use?
I want to say again like I have been saying since I saw it live on the news here in the USA. RIP to all of the lives that were lost that day
Neat idea.
where is the fire brigade air mattress while.they were rescuing people.
No such thing as an air mattress for that. They only use those in gymnastics.
Abhorrent idea.
A golden statue of Theresa May that rotates towards the sun.
Don't forget the Tory lies and corruption that led to this tragedy... Or the suddenly homeless families who were still living in cars a year later ...
Cathy Newman be condemned for her poor handling of the interview on Jan 16, 2018. Ben de Pear and Anja Popp, shame on you both!
Who's gonna pay for it? 🤣🤣
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Please have some respect for the survivors of this tragedy, this video is here to highlight and remind people of the detrimental failings of a council that in turn killed 72 innocent people. The survivors continue to fight for justice for the loved ones they’ve lost so its very insensitive for you to spam the comments in order to condemn a woman’s interviewing techniques from 2018. Please be more mindful and put a complaint in to channel 4 or ofcom if your that bothered.
It should be demolished same with most other tower blocks, replace them with terraced and other middle housing units in mixed used regions.
Then they should sell the houses too the rich.
Pull it down and rebuild. Hundreds of people have died all over London in the blitz. We need homes. If you must put up a plack.
No, the tower should stay to never forget the victims. The Blitz will always be remembered, but the Grenfell Tower may not, so keeping it is best. Plus there are alot of new construction of houses in London
Just pull it down and simply have a "memorial garden" public space/rest area that pays respect to the victims and removes a hideous block and a haunting reminder from the skyline
Another reason I won't forget it my brother passed away one year later 17 June 18
I am probably the only one in the USA that even remembers that tragedy and will not forget it. I wish it would generally in our sense be torn down and then above and below ground memorial similar to what we did at the world trade center be built as a memorial