Grenfell special: 3D imaging reveals how the tragedy unfolded

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  • Опубликовано: 20 мар 2018
  • Sky News has been given exclusive access to an interactive 3D model of the Grenfell Tower which aims to provide an unrivalled understanding of the fire that killed 71 people.

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  • @thegamergirlunicorn9596
    @thegamergirlunicorn9596 6 лет назад +544

    That poor man, he didn’t deserve to lose all of his family and neither does anyone who had lost any family up there

    • @avizv
      @avizv 3 года назад +13

      I lost my teacher

    • @BLINK-ce6op
      @BLINK-ce6op 2 года назад +11

      @@avizv im so sorry. :(

  • @ax6191
    @ax6191 6 лет назад +725

    They can redo Big Ben, but of course they can’t fix people’s homes. Tf

    • @comradeDaisy2
      @comradeDaisy2 6 лет назад +42

      Jesus I just realised that.

    • @ax6191
      @ax6191 6 лет назад +80

      NINJA LINK2007 people's lives come first🤷🏽‍♀️it's a human rights violation

    • @inkyguy
      @inkyguy 6 лет назад +10

      It is all about what one values and what we as a society value.

    • @garyfairbrass9439
      @garyfairbrass9439 4 года назад +7

      Big Ben is important to British people and tourism.

    • @ranjha4008
      @ranjha4008 4 года назад +6

      @@garyfairbrass9439 so is grenfell tower now

  • @Videogame-Matt
    @Videogame-Matt 6 лет назад +332

    Still sends shivers down my spine

  • @lillylake
    @lillylake 6 лет назад +124

    Once that buildings removed I bet there won’t be a memorial garden there
    It will be wiped completely like it never happened!

    • @borleyboo5613
      @borleyboo5613 6 лет назад +7

      Whitey says NO! I’ve said all along that this dreadful event is being swept under the carpet and nothing seems to be happening nearly a year on.
      Something sinister about the whole thing I think.
      I hope these poor souls who died that night and their relatives and friends can find peace someday. 🌹🕊

    • @TinaLouise73
      @TinaLouise73 3 года назад +6

      well we need to put in a petition to ensure there is one too commemorate all those poor innocent murdered victims thanks to the incompetent so called emergency service idiots telling the poor victims to stay put in a burning building!

    • @Vixyvix01
      @Vixyvix01 3 года назад +4

      They might try but people won't let them get away with it, nobody will ever forget what happened there that night and how the residents were let down afterwards as well.

    • @cfoster6804
      @cfoster6804 3 года назад +1

      It's called gentrification.

    • @rjscott6116
      @rjscott6116 2 года назад +1

      Sad, but true. Wouldn't want be reminded of the cowardes that cost hundreds of innocencent victims their lives on their way home to pay their wives/ leaders/ bosses/ person who wears the pants and beats them when they make a boo boo in bed! Weaklings.

  • @hazelnutsheep7863
    @hazelnutsheep7863 6 лет назад +378

    No excuse will ever be good enough to excuse this incident. This shouldn't have happened.

    • @josephw6977
      @josephw6977 6 лет назад +4

      It was a hot point fridge freezer that caught fire that’s why stay away from British made appliances (hotpoint indesit whirlpool creda)

    • @dvidclapperton
      @dvidclapperton 6 лет назад +5

      It shouldn't have happened. Lakanal shouldn't have happened but it did. But afterwards there was a chance of lessons to be learned. They weren't. Cameron for one cut red tape i.e. the health and safety culture since the report with fire safety regulations to Lakanall was published. It was voted through in the commons so as a result there was no requirement for mass re-renovations of flats with safe materials installed and other proper safety recommendations implemented. Who do they think they are? I certainly don't see any lessons being learned this time either.
      It seems it will take a whole spate of such fires happening in a very short space of time now for politicians to finally wake up and smell the cyanide and do something to make sure there's not even a remote chance of a Lakanal or Grenfell (and others happening a few years down the line) ever happening again.
      "There's only a Remote chance of another such fire happening again" is still a significant chance of another one happening again, even if Remote is looked on the same way as unlikely is. But unlikely or Remote does not mean it's not possible as Lakanal and Grenfell have proven. Residents living at such properties should not be at any risk at all.

    • @Picnicl
      @Picnicl 6 лет назад +11

      A fridge fire in a concrete structure should , at worst, affect the occupant of the flat, those on the same floor, and anyone who hasn't closed their window on the above floors. This was turned in to something particularly atrocious by the accelerant - the cladding / insulation material and possibly a chimney effect caused by gaps inbetween. Coupled with a fire policy, or interpretation or communication of policy to remain in flats, a policy that does not seem to have been suitable for this particular type of unusual, externally accelerated, fire. We British seem to find terrible new ways of tragedy. We even found a previously unknown effect, the trench effect, from the Kings Cross Fire. Plus Hillsborough. These things always seem to happen under the Conservatives. When will British government take responsibility for putting in rules that ensure safety? Other rich European countries don't have these cases. England's been an only part time 'society' for 40 years now.

    • @tomsixsix
      @tomsixsix 6 лет назад +7

      I would not blame Hotpoint. The fact is kitchen fires happen. The expert report from Jose L Torero states that "kitchen fires have a probability of about one", in other words they will eventually happen. The same incident could have occurred if someone set fire to a pan of oil, or an electrical fire elsewhere. The problem was that the fire broke into the cladding system and spread through the insulation and plastic. Compartmentalisation failed and people died. Absolutely tragic.

    • @k50atze
      @k50atze 5 лет назад

      @@josephw6977 I don't know, what a hot point means, may be overheated? In Germany the statistic proves (Germany only) tumble dryers are number one, cooling devices are number two in cause of a fire. In both cases, with the exeption of construction faults, bad maintenance is the reason number one. (Overburden coupler strip No. 2) Unfortunately owners don't clean filters (tumble dryer) or the back side (cooling device) from dust. Very tricky: Some german tumble dryers hold filters underneath the sidepaneels, owners don't know, because there is only a grid in the side paneels.
      Never, never, never keep running built-in devices!
      Learnt the this certain type of a fridge that set the fire is known in Britain for this failure. As same as a certain type of tumble dryer.
      Technical inspection authority exist in Great Britain, isn't it?

  • @Production791
    @Production791 6 лет назад +247

    More than heartbreaking....a preventable tragedy! Nothing could ever compensate for their loss and pain!

    • @dvidclapperton
      @dvidclapperton 6 лет назад +4

      @Rumpelstiltskin
      Indeed. Safety recommendations from report on a previous similar fire at another tower block back in 2009 have failed to be implemented on when re-renovating or even not re-renovating at all. And this not just at Grenfell tower and the council where Grenfell is based. The cladding that caught fire at Grenfell was installed since the report.
      It could have happened at any tower in the UK that has with flammable cladding installed. For many councils and other social housing associations to have failed to re-renovate all flats since 2009 with inflammable material is inexcusable.
      It will happen again to another tower block if nothing gets done to re-renovate flats with inflammable material and sprinklers. Will they all finally do it or will they just wait until the furore from Grenfell has died down and do nothing?

    • @bigbeatyswollocks4859
      @bigbeatyswollocks4859 6 лет назад

      Rumpelstiltskin this was a false flag 😲👍💯

    • @dvidclapperton
      @dvidclapperton 6 лет назад +3

      Sadly the fact that the constituents of the area where Grenfell Tower is situated still re-elected a tory councillor within the year anyway shows that people even in the near surrounding areas really don't care as long as they aren't badly affected by such a thing. Disgraceful.
      May showed how uncompassionate and uncaring she really was over the incident. Sadly far too many seem to show very similar compassion the way they voted last Thursday.
      I don't see any sudden mass re-renovations of tower blocks up and down the UK after the final report to Grenfell. Many will still have the flammable outer cladding and other fire hazards totally untouched. Nothing was done after the previous similar Lakanal fire in 2009 after all. Re-renovations will still likely be using flammable materials so it certainly won't be in response to the fire safety recommendations post Grenfell. Grenfell re-renovation was not in response to Lakanal either.

    • @Production791
      @Production791 6 лет назад +3

      Ivan Hardon A false flag for what? People were killed, families lost loved ones... nothing false in that !

    • @AD-mh4zy
      @AD-mh4zy 2 года назад

      @@dvidclapperton #TheRapeofBritain Telford 29th January

  • @antonydouglas855
    @antonydouglas855 6 лет назад +146

    How we treat our citizens demonstrates how civilised we our as a society. Tenants of Grenfell Tower have been abandoned by local and central governments. We will never forget them.

    • @GreatSageSunWukong
      @GreatSageSunWukong 6 лет назад +2

      Antony Douglas we need to fight for justice as our forefathers did they take from us when we stop fighting them

    • @dean9235
      @dean9235 4 года назад +8

      The rich elite have one rule for them and another for the rest of us. They have just spent 365000000 on refurbishing Buckingham Palace yet use flammable cladding to reduce costs.

    • @AD-mh4zy
      @AD-mh4zy 2 года назад

      #TheRapeofBritain Telford 29th January

    • @shizueleighhicks6174
      @shizueleighhicks6174 2 года назад

      @@dean9235 Speaking of societal differences, please clarify for this American. Was Grenfell Tower “council flats”?the British equivalent to Section 8 housing?
      Everything including the engineering, safety features are second-rate? These units are never privately owned but owned by the government?

  • @arancienne
    @arancienne 6 лет назад +45

    I remember waking up in the middle of the night and seeing the burning tower on the news. I couldnt believe my eyes, I thought it literally looked like hell

  • @CBTvideos
    @CBTvideos 6 лет назад +74

    It is just sad...
    I actually couldn't believe it when the events unfolded, and for how rapid the flames spread, how long the fire lasted, it is baffling, a complete failiure when the issues were presented time and time again regarding the cladding.

    • @sumayaakther6921
      @sumayaakther6921 6 лет назад +9

      SeumiseuTV - 스미스티비 And the fact that people don’t care anymore. I was scrolling down the comments someone wrote “i don’t care all I wanna know is how many illegals were living in the building” WHO SAYS THAT?

    • @packersfanforlife7903
      @packersfanforlife7903 2 месяца назад

      On the 15th floor firefighters said the environment was 500 degrees plus. Two firefighters suffered burns when they got to that floor as their suits started to melt. Bare in mind they had traverses x14 floors engulfed in flames with no working water hose.

  • @marguerite527
    @marguerite527 6 лет назад +93

    All the innocent people who lost their lives so terribly that night. And their families that are left behind with the pain and suffering and the questions. It was a terrible tragedy.

  • @Drehgab
    @Drehgab 6 лет назад +224

    This is so depressing, I’m speechless. No one deserves this!

    • @KOKINGWAYNE
      @KOKINGWAYNE 6 лет назад +2

      Very True!

    • @k50atze
      @k50atze 5 лет назад +1

      USA speech: "No one deserves this." There are people who deserves?

    • @Tekashi-tv2pe
      @Tekashi-tv2pe 5 лет назад +1

      better world dumbest comment I’ve ever read

  • @garyhiggins5823
    @garyhiggins5823 6 лет назад +366

    Your 3D thing didn't reveal anything about how the tragedy unfolded.

    • @is_that_yer_da2636
      @is_that_yer_da2636 4 года назад +2

      Drugs probably

    • @itzzaii
      @itzzaii 3 года назад +56

      @@is_that_yer_da2636 actually a fridge exploded and the tower had flammable cladding

    • @avizv
      @avizv 3 года назад +1

      @@itzzaii yes

    • @akscricket8
      @akscricket8 3 года назад +1

      @@itzzaii Yeah

    • @cfoster6804
      @cfoster6804 3 года назад +2

      I suspected as much.

  • @antonov7379
    @antonov7379 6 лет назад +269

    Called 999 8 times and told to stay inside and they die...

    • @spex357
      @spex357 6 лет назад +32

      Because the person on the phone is disconnected from the reality on site and is following rules that have been tried and tested for fifty years, as nothing fitted to the outside of the flat was flammable. They didn't realise that giving the Construction Industry the chance to audit themselves would lead to this, but ...
      In the drive to erect as many of these blocks as possible in the 50/60s the Industry was allowed to Audit itself as the local councils didn't have the workforce to keep up with it. Shortly after Construction some where demolished due to faults, bolts missing, badly made Concrete, incorrect panel sizes etc. No one went to jail then either.

    • @aliceinpayne6911
      @aliceinpayne6911 4 года назад +5

      666.....

    • @ricky_pigeon
      @ricky_pigeon 4 года назад +27

      If the building was up to standards, the fire would be able to be contained. Nobody expects a building to go up like matchsticks.

    • @lgbtskylar740
      @lgbtskylar740 3 года назад +2

      sadly its tough to know how to handle something not done, they didnt expect the cladding to be bad in most cases the fire would stay local (its made of non flammable material), in the end its the cladding company who are at fault!

    • @ykMMD
      @ykMMD 3 года назад +9

      @@lgbtskylar740 No the fault lies in the people who decided to ditch the fireproof cladding at the last minute for a cheaper one that would not meet the safety guidelines.

  • @David.L291
    @David.L291 4 года назад +25

    oh man that poor guy at 4:30 it's so heartbreaking as to lose so many members of your family is horrendous

  • @Alex-om1be
    @Alex-om1be 6 лет назад +205

    RIP to all

  • @vincentharling9548
    @vincentharling9548 3 года назад +17

    I was visiting my brother who lives 200 yards from grenfell tower. The sight was horrific.as I firefighter I have never seen fire spread so fast. All this time later and still no one has been brought to account for this disaster. Justice for the dead is a long time coming.

  • @jenniferholden9397
    @jenniferholden9397 6 лет назад +68

    What a heartbreaking situation this is, all so avoidable. The information that people had was to stay in their flats, unfortunately this information was outdated as the "firedoors" had been downgraded, there was no sprinkler system, no fire alarms, and the fire engines couldn't get up to the building. Those poor souls didn't stand a chance.

    • @sassytela
      @sassytela 6 лет назад +12

      Jennifer Holden sprinklers weren't working and fire alarms were too quite. Those who had heard has to inform others and that takes much longer. Now coming to think of it, it was actually a death trap. TOO many coincidences on that day :(

    • @spex357
      @spex357 6 лет назад +2

      Out dated due to the cladding, without that a paper door could have been in place.

    • @GreatSageSunWukong
      @GreatSageSunWukong 6 лет назад +3

      Its modern Britain we are going to crap, its not just councils, landlords are cutting corners, at the last rental I had someone fell through the banisters 3 floors up and died as they were rotten, this was a private landlords the council was paying to provide temporary accommodation, at my current flat I know the external doors are BS they are internal doors the builders are on the fiddle they all are, internal doors cost about £12, external about £40 they are replacing with internal and charging for external and no one knows until they are rotting two years later and the contractor is long gone.

    • @dvidclapperton
      @dvidclapperton 6 лет назад +2

      Who the feck in the right mind would vote the sitting tory councillor of the council who used flammable materials on a block of flats which was responsible for a fire engulfing almost an entire tower block.

    • @spex357
      @spex357 6 лет назад +2

      Who in their right mind has been voting for any of them, they are all guilty, all the way back to 1983. They've all let it happen.

  • @lauramolony
    @lauramolony 6 лет назад +32

    In the 60s when grenfell was first built, it was designed to keep a fire contained within a single flat for at least an hour using compartmentalization. But over time changes were made to the design and the most recent refit included fitting new cladding which being highly flammable poly ethylene based, defeated the purpose of compartmentalization, the buildings only proper defence against fire.

    • @MaxSafeheaD
      @MaxSafeheaD 6 лет назад +2

      Whomever was responsible for violating the fire codes needs to be held to account allong with everyone else up the chain of responsibility.

    • @inkyguy
      @inkyguy 6 лет назад +4

      MaxSafeheaD, the fire codes were relaxed and retired by the Thatcher government to encourage real estate development, i.e., to make more money at the risk to people's safety. None of those officials, and especially Thatcher herself, are around any more to be held accountable.

  • @Junuu
    @Junuu 6 лет назад +529

    Corporate manslaughter

    • @tou7331
      @tou7331 6 лет назад +1

      7th Clone no

    • @VeronicasMidget
      @VeronicasMidget 6 лет назад +10

      Tory negligence.

    • @T.Hxrris
      @T.Hxrris 6 лет назад +2

      Kagan Roy bmt preaachhhhh. We just need a group to start it and many others will join.

    • @TheRussellforbes
      @TheRussellforbes 6 лет назад +5

      Mind blowing the people judge this n won’t convict the corporate muppets
      stakeholder v shareholders
      The people united will never b defeated

    • @fatimaa3013
      @fatimaa3013 6 лет назад

      lolwotm8 r u serious?

  • @michael-qf9ds
    @michael-qf9ds 6 лет назад +39

    The video title is a little misleading

  • @MustafaKulle
    @MustafaKulle 6 лет назад +58

    If this was a terrorist attack all the suspects would have been arrested within 24 hours.
    To this day, almost a year on, nobody has been charged with corporate manslaughter.

  • @user-ib4dw8jp4r
    @user-ib4dw8jp4r 6 лет назад +75

    Instead of spending the money to make a 3D model of the fire use the money to actually help the victims get actual accommodation instead of making them live in hotels

    • @davidconley3734
      @davidconley3734 6 лет назад +5

      - theres a reason a lot of these families are still in (Luxury) hotels, they are offered houses, but refuse them, therefore being offered better houses. A lot of people are exploiting what happened.

    • @tragtheorcbard7132
      @tragtheorcbard7132 6 лет назад +8

      It's informative, it's suppose to be used to collect data and possibly help fire departments and such. Saying "spend money to help them" isn't helping many in the long run. Just some people.

    • @gemmaharvey6152
      @gemmaharvey6152 6 лет назад +4

      Or spend the money on the right cladding then no fire no problem lol

    • @johnfrancisdoe1563
      @johnfrancisdoe1563 6 лет назад +4

      Gemma Harvey They need better cladding, better sprinklers, better firewalls, better evacuation procedures. But to be sure which ones are actually better, someone needs to figure out all the horrible details, like where the smoke went, where the fire went, how fast, what made it go that way, how the 999 operator got the wrong information, how the decisions before the fire went wrong, etc. etc. Because the world is full of cheap skyscrapers and cash-strapped supervisors, and we need to know how to avoid too many similar disasters.

    • @kathyborthwick6738
      @kathyborthwick6738 3 года назад

      Sky News is Australian and to get justice and a fair settlement this will be invaluable! In addition financial resources were donated!

  • @jimbanks206
    @jimbanks206 6 лет назад +33

    I cried when the guy said his family died such a tragedy. So sorry to hear such heartache.

  • @tstrains4983
    @tstrains4983 6 лет назад +76

    Was on the Hammersmith and city line and it went past grenfell. Looks much worse than pictures. Very sad.

    • @sassytela
      @sassytela 6 лет назад +4

      trainExplorer yh I see it everytime i go westfield/shepherds Bush area. So sad 💔

    • @039remi
      @039remi 6 лет назад

      trainExplorer nl

    • @Sarge92
      @Sarge92 6 лет назад

      drove past it last year its eerie seeing it burnt out and blackened just stood there

  • @miralubin646
    @miralubin646 6 лет назад +49

    Just remember that amazing woman who flooded her whole flat to keep her family from dieing 😣

    • @sassytela
      @sassytela 6 лет назад +11

      mira lubin did they survive?

    • @shadeharison
      @shadeharison 4 года назад +2

      ,,,same old crap tho,when something like that happens,,,fake sympathy,,from those responsible,,,like they want their frigging sympathy,,,

  • @Esthersarkisxo
    @Esthersarkisxo 6 лет назад +274

    why are they still saying 71 people died, clearly it was more than that considering there were 120 flats in the building!

    • @louisvuitton56
      @louisvuitton56 6 лет назад +32

      Esther Adé, some say it was 400 people that died ?

    • @Esthersarkisxo
      @Esthersarkisxo 6 лет назад +33

      that sounds quite believable tbh, so tragic

    • @Ethan-ik1nm
      @Ethan-ik1nm 6 лет назад +25

      It's a disgrace, I honestly can't with Kensington anymore. Although I wasn't affected by the fire, my local community certainly was. I along with others have now either moved to another borough or applied for a house in another borough where the social divide is much smaller and more welcoming. We need answers, people need to be arrested, families need to be compensated. The saddest part is apparently, the rich residents and landlords refused victims to stay in one of the many overpriced, empty apartments in the area but that might not be true.

    • @2high83
      @2high83 6 лет назад +28

      On the night, some firefighters were saying numbers like 120-130.

    • @Ethan-ik1nm
      @Ethan-ik1nm 6 лет назад +3

      2high wouldn't surprise me if that were true

  • @Ena48145
    @Ena48145 4 года назад +8

    It wasn't until this video, 2 and a half years later that I now realize that the blaze on the right hand side of all the social media videos was a subset of vertical units within the three facing towers. I always thought that in these videos, the fire was on the side of the building, THE SIDE, working its way up through the cladding, and that it was only the siding and balconies on the outside of the building that were aflame. I am laying here just absolutely stunned to realize that this was an entire section units of the building that was just absolutely engulfed in flames. I am completely speechless and my heart is broken even more than it already was.

  • @WhippedForJungkookie
    @WhippedForJungkookie 6 лет назад +62

    Justice 4 grenfell

  • @zarbon8567
    @zarbon8567 4 года назад +7

    Funny how all the wealthy people that lived near the tower kept complaining about how unpleasant the building was from their window view and the government couldn’t buy out the residents 🧐 low and behold there was a mysterious fire that engulfed the whole block 🧐

  • @metalcreatures3039
    @metalcreatures3039 6 лет назад +51

    So basically this is clickbait. Doesn't show anything about how the fire unfolded.

    • @lisaliddle9161
      @lisaliddle9161 3 года назад +1

      It show's where the fire started on the fourth floor in flat 16 which I don't think they knew when this was made. It was caused by a malfunctioning fridge freezer supposedly.

  • @mikeyd946
    @mikeyd946 6 лет назад +15

    So tragic. I can’t even imagine. My heart goes out to all the families and loved ones. 😢

  • @IIM3RK-UII
    @IIM3RK-UII 6 лет назад +105

    Why was they told yo stay inside its like they wanted everyone to die

    • @tou7331
      @tou7331 6 лет назад +17

      Wavey' Babz yh that was very weird but apparently it was bc they assumed the doors were strong enough to hold it back. Of course, it turns out they were below normal standards anyways

    • @dansegelov305
      @dansegelov305 6 лет назад +45

      Because, if the building was 'up to standard' that would have been the best advice!
      That's how towers in Britain are supposed to be built. With half-hour fire doors, intumescent stops and decent sprinklers/extinguishers preventing a fire from spreading quickly, this gives the fire service plenty of time to put the fire out.
      When people rush to evacuate, people get hurt. Fire doors are opened, breaking intumescent seals and oxygen is fed to the fire.
      The crime here is the deliberate failure to fit sprinklers and update fire extinguishers, the ageing fire doors that fitted poorly and of course, the fitting of flammable cladding to the outside of the building.
      Socially motivated manslaughter!

    • @thomasingham3391
      @thomasingham3391 6 лет назад +23

      Most tower blocks have a 'Stay put' policy because fire regulations mean that a flat should contain the fire for up to 4 hours, therefore if the fire isn't in your flat it is safer to stay in your flat rather than breathe in smoke. However because of the cladding on Grenfell it went up the sides of the building which no one expected.

    • @louisvuitton56
      @louisvuitton56 6 лет назад +7

      Towers don't normally go up like that because each flat is built to contain the fire. So towers have a stay put policy to avoid chaos down the stair wells. The cladding was something no one had ever considered or planned for.

    • @fatimaa3013
      @fatimaa3013 6 лет назад +1

      Wavey' Babz they did

  • @KOKINGWAYNE
    @KOKINGWAYNE 6 лет назад +19

    R.I.P To all that passed away that night in June 2017!

    • @LL-ip5mm
      @LL-ip5mm 6 лет назад +1

      Wayne Alexander
      *RIP TO THEM THEY ARE IN A BETTER PLACE NOW I HOPE*

    • @KOKINGWAYNE
      @KOKINGWAYNE 6 лет назад

      Yes,i hope so!

  • @dawnbentleah1818
    @dawnbentleah1818 6 лет назад +9

    I was up late, everyone asleep and i saw people posting live about the fire. I watched it go from not very big to a huge fire. Was awful.. So sad..

  • @truckerdoug1512
    @truckerdoug1512 5 лет назад +17

    As a long distance driver, I was in London close to the tower that day, I’ll never forget the carnage I saw RIP all who lost their lives

  • @bilalblair5584
    @bilalblair5584 6 лет назад +40

    More than 71 people died, it was around 300. Liars

    • @paianis
      @paianis 6 лет назад +3

      There were only 120 apartments, there would have to have been two or three people in all of them (and for no one to have evacuated) to achieve that sort of figure.

    • @barcegt1728
      @barcegt1728 6 лет назад +7

      Ever think about people without birth certificate? There were about 4 people per apartment... I see the site every day

    • @bilalblair5584
      @bilalblair5584 6 лет назад +3

      HispaWispa • Exactly

    • @tou7331
      @tou7331 6 лет назад

      What

    • @alfiewoods219
      @alfiewoods219 6 лет назад +1

      Paianni 3 X 120 = 360 - 71 = 289 still around 300

  • @dupey3304
    @dupey3304 6 лет назад +29

    “Stay inside” who ever said that needs to be charged with manslaugher

    • @hamad-pz3rp
      @hamad-pz3rp 6 лет назад

      Dupey true

    • @belmundoable
      @belmundoable 6 лет назад

      Jump out the window would be better yeah

    • @2299mikey
      @2299mikey 6 лет назад +5

      Dupey no they shouldn’t. That’s exactly the right thing to do in most skyscraper fires especially apartment buildings. A normal building the fire wouldn’t have spread anywhere close to that fast and the firefighters would’ve had plenty of time to put out the fire or come to each apartment and guide them out of the building

    • @davsinclair
      @davsinclair 4 года назад

      Thats a policy for flats

  • @gwynethgrove772
    @gwynethgrove772 6 лет назад +6

    The numbers are accurate, based on known resident numbers, known escapees, known injured and known missing.... then step by step searching and recovery from each area. That’s why it took so long to confirm the number. A large number of people got out, several people were rescued hours after the fire started. Safe housing for all is vital and a human right.

  • @kaypupx7435
    @kaypupx7435 3 года назад +8

    i remember the day we saw all of thid happening on news..it was terrifying and I'm an hour from there, i wasn't even there and i was horrified by it all. Honestly so sorry for all the people whos lives were lost and for the family and friends who lost them.

  • @siobhanair2659
    @siobhanair2659 6 лет назад +66

    Told to stay in their homes 🤦🏾‍♀️ R🌹P 😢

    • @Balnazzardi
      @Balnazzardi 6 лет назад +15

      Normally thats exactly the right thing to do when the fire is contained/cant spread from 1 floor to the next....
      However here the order to move out by any means necessary should have been made as soon as they saw that the situation was out of control....and by the time they did tell ppl to leave it was far too late for many.

    • @ivanrlynn
      @ivanrlynn 6 лет назад +1

      Siobhan Airey shut up slave

    • @Tekashi-tv2pe
      @Tekashi-tv2pe 5 лет назад

      Yes but wat ur number tho all grefnell tings aside I’m tryna beat

    • @higgs135
      @higgs135 4 года назад

      And they stayed in their homes lol

  • @burningexperience6031
    @burningexperience6031 6 лет назад +27

    What a tragedy :(

  • @siddique57
    @siddique57 6 лет назад +10

    Heartbreaking, justice is needed for Grenfall. This should not be happening in the 21st century.

  • @idot3331
    @idot3331 5 лет назад +12

    "Unprecedented in London's History"
    Well, there was that whole "great fire of London" thing that happened a few hundred years ago...

    • @lordsnooty61
      @lordsnooty61 5 лет назад +1

      Officially only 6 people died in the Great Fire of London. Far more in the Blitz, something like 20,000.

    • @footballhd9001
      @footballhd9001 4 года назад +2

      Chiswick Gooner “only” remember 6 souls were still lost that night

  • @calebgaming8459
    @calebgaming8459 Год назад +3

    At 5:46 that's kind of a scary picture....

  • @Kazzzy03
    @Kazzzy03 6 лет назад +5

    unbelievable so sad. i wasn't even there and had bad anxiety about this so cant imagine what those people experienced

  • @faizolmai5844
    @faizolmai5844 6 лет назад +25

    The truth will come out one day

    • @GreatSageSunWukong
      @GreatSageSunWukong 6 лет назад +5

      Faizol Refaeil but those responsible will never pay for it unless we keep fighting for accountability, how many watching this video know the name of the councilors who wanted this bullshit cladding?

    • @faizolmai5844
      @faizolmai5844 6 лет назад +2

      Sun Wukong your right and no one knows

  • @talllala
    @talllala 6 лет назад +2

    So the bin chute and bin room was better protected than the actual dwellings? Am I right? So feasibly residents could have survived if they had shut themselves in the bin room?

  • @perasenmosespaul416
    @perasenmosespaul416 6 лет назад +8

    This model would not really point finger to people but would bring out possibly way in combating such action and hazard in the future. I would also suggest the result and finding should be added to design manuals.

  • @Dennycrane757
    @Dennycrane757 5 лет назад +3

    It’s a travesty of justice that every time something like this happens, the cause is, more often than not traced to a combination of factors involving corporate malfeasance and cost-cutting. It’s mind boggling to me that a building like that could even legally exist in this day and age, where there were no sprinkler systems installed, and only one staircase, yet someone in the council would have had to sign off and approve a building cladding known to be flammable? There needs to be a “corporate manslaughter” law on the books so that there can be some transparency and accountability.

    • @weldonyoung1013
      @weldonyoung1013 2 года назад +1

      Actually the cladding was "rated" at the maximum for fire safety.
      Ever thought it wasn't.
      What was also missed, was that the fire was spreading FAST.
      Which doesn't fit with "stay in place for rescue"!

  • @Rogue_Console
    @Rogue_Console 6 лет назад +12

    There will never be justice done for this, not in this world.

  • @Mummabear543
    @Mummabear543 6 лет назад +13

    Such a horrific ending to so many lives. Rest Peacefully to each one :( 💔

  • @faebalina7786
    @faebalina7786 6 лет назад +4

    I cant fathom the tragedy of losing an entire family.Im so shocked that Fire Brigades arent consulted on the various materials used on these buildings.The stay put advice was disastrous but the Fire Brigade clearly were out of their depth with the speed of the fire.What a tragic way to learn a lesson.Everything is God's will and its up to society to value the lessons.

  • @elishanolan
    @elishanolan 6 лет назад +6

    Such a devastating tragedy.

  • @AliRiazAliTheBaba
    @AliRiazAliTheBaba 6 лет назад +15

    Corporate murder.

  • @queenpersia5449
    @queenpersia5449 6 лет назад +4

    I think more should have been done on that night this was horrific and traumatising...

  • @sabelosibiya8293
    @sabelosibiya8293 3 года назад +3

    Why tell people to stay in their room while the place was burning

    • @lewisricekrispy2
      @lewisricekrispy2 3 года назад

      Stay put was created to allow developers to meet the minimum standards.

  • @MasonMsotsos
    @MasonMsotsos 2 года назад +2

    Forensic Architecture are a team with some magnificent and really interesting videos. They are worth a follow!

  • @keishaxo97
    @keishaxo97 6 лет назад +5

    So where is the guy whose flat the fire started in ??

    • @RoyalBlood23
      @RoyalBlood23 6 лет назад

      Katie X proberly In hiding and traumatised

  • @KevinAndrew350
    @KevinAndrew350 6 лет назад +5

    This should never have happened and the response from the government has been a disgrace.

  • @Trapshitkalci
    @Trapshitkalci 2 года назад +2

    Literally brakes my heart when I hear those stories.

  • @andrewarthurmatthews6685
    @andrewarthurmatthews6685 Год назад +1

    I also have to ask how was the Grenfell Tower refurbishment was allowed to pass inspection ( or did it not ?) or regular ( perhaps there were none ) checks by LFB to assess dry riser, lifts control, sprinkler systems etc . As yet I have not heard witnesses testimony regarding the handling back of Grenfell Tower to RBKC from the building contractor. Surely the newly ‘completed’ block would require some type of fire safety certificate in order to satisfy all the legal requirements needed?

  • @Clinty727
    @Clinty727 6 лет назад +2

    Do they not have a building fire code in London??? I’m so confused, in San Francisco the fire department comes all the time for inspections to make sure we are up to code and safe....

    • @rowlewis81
      @rowlewis81 6 лет назад +1

      Clinton James the refurbishment was done to a code, it just so happens the code was very open to somebody's interpretation.

    • @johnfrancisdoe1563
      @johnfrancisdoe1563 6 лет назад +2

      Clinton James Britain's politicians cut down on inspections and replaced them by bureaucracy and self assessments.

    • @inkyguy
      @inkyguy 6 лет назад +3

      The Thatcher government retired and relaxed the fire codes in the 1980s to encourage real estate development. That is considered one of the precipitating causes of the fire.

  • @shadyavich4595
    @shadyavich4595 4 месяца назад +3

    That poor little man crying 😢i just want to hug him 😢

  • @newtechomes9272
    @newtechomes9272 6 лет назад +2

    This fire should never have happened and will be surprised if those responsible are bought to justice.

  • @benniebanks1635
    @benniebanks1635 6 лет назад +6

    this crime doesent fit into any boxes though they need to think outside of the box

  • @BBbankz
    @BBbankz 5 лет назад +2

    Absolutely terrible day I feel sorry for everyone who died and who lost friends and family

  • @rorus9530
    @rorus9530 3 года назад +2

    That poor man losing so much of his family.

  • @bugballs2211
    @bugballs2211 6 лет назад +1

    If it stayed there, it would of been so much nostalgia (in a way) to walk in and look at all the sad remains of rooms and possible bones

  • @keswickcaravan
    @keswickcaravan 6 лет назад +2

    Lets just be clear about how this happened - and who is responsible - its simple. Fire from a faulty fridge passed through an air brick that originally would have vented the kitchen directly outside. Newly installed cladding blocked the air brick, flames went through the air brick and the insulation ignited. This is what a several year inquiry will find. Those responsible are the ones who should have checked the air brick vents were sealed from inside before the cladding was applied. This is the fact of the matter.

    • @weldonyoung1013
      @weldonyoung1013 2 года назад

      Your fasts missed the response on site that night PERIOD

  • @franceskronenwett3539
    @franceskronenwett3539 3 года назад +2

    That people were instructed to remain in their flats was inexuseable. I would have ignored the order and got out as quickly as possible.

    • @lewisricekrispy2
      @lewisricekrispy2 3 года назад +2

      It wasn't an order, it was advice. Some did attempt to flee but the smoke was to much for them.

  • @wipool1940
    @wipool1940 6 лет назад +9

    Humanity is dead! This was delibrate fault of the council!!! No good enough excuse for this at all! Neglect

  • @TravelingEurope1
    @TravelingEurope1 5 лет назад +2

    This fire is catastrophic! It usually only spreads only a few floors at the most. Something here has gone catastrophically wrong!😢

  • @MikkoRantalainen
    @MikkoRantalainen 7 месяцев назад

    6:25 The sad part is that the companies that did the outside walls of that building did know perfectly well that the materials were not rated for such use. However, the owner of the building decided to proceed with the cheapest materials available - a decision which resulted into this accident.

  • @samprice2393
    @samprice2393 5 месяцев назад +2

    9:14 I want to make sure that they never figure out that they will always be remembered, forever. 😢

  • @annetteslife
    @annetteslife 2 года назад +1

    I don't what to think about what and if anything would happen to the apartment I am currently living in. So sad and rest in peace to those who died. This sounds so similar to what was said to those who were trapped in the Twin Towers while the buildings were on fire on 9/11.

  • @tc5290
    @tc5290 6 лет назад +3

    Your approach to the emergency services is one completely unfair. The emergency services did not know the building was “fragile” as mentioned. They advised based on materials which would have been in place

    • @GameFreak7744
      @GameFreak7744 6 лет назад +1

      Their only fault is assuming that nobody would be stupid or evil enough to carry out 'renovation' on the building without understanding the fire safety design.

  • @mikebeer1567
    @mikebeer1567 3 года назад

    Could they tell what temperature it got to in those bin rooms?

  • @weldonyoung1013
    @weldonyoung1013 2 года назад +1

    Just cut to 06:17 for the full prespective.
    The comments of Antonio, one of the late survivors to escape the buring building. Who describes inside and out.

  • @Sovereign_Citizen_LEO
    @Sovereign_Citizen_LEO 6 лет назад +1

    Why would they retrofit the building just a few years back, with a highly flammable cladding (if there was no conspiracy or corruption involved)?

    • @FowlorTheRooster1990
      @FowlorTheRooster1990 3 года назад +1

      dont know but fire regulations have been debatable in the uk for a while now in my opinion

  • @tranhau3818
    @tranhau3818 6 лет назад

    I found out one thing: the materials used to build and to decorate the house, buildings are easy to catch fire. They are wood floors, curtains, furniture, rubber chairs, .... We have to create some fireproof (anti fire) materials to stop so sad fires.

    • @weldonyoung1013
      @weldonyoung1013 2 года назад +1

      There was - the full concrete floors.
      But the fire friendly cladding made mincemeat of that.
      And no one recognized it at the time.
      Until it was too late.

  • @MrThedwp
    @MrThedwp 6 лет назад

    Hang on, I just saw a doco on this and Nabil who lost 6 members of his family said in that one that the last thing he got from his sister was a voicemail where she's telling him goodbye and he'd been there for hours yet in this one he's saying the last thing he got from his sister was a text message saying there's a fire which he slept through. Which one is it then? I'm not attacking the guy because what he and his family went through was horrible but just confused on what story is the correct one?

  • @hieithefox
    @hieithefox 2 года назад +1

    I don’t understand the stay in place thing in university I was in an 11 floor building and any fire drill or event we knew to leave quickly and orderly immediately and the last person out the room doors new to close the doors behind to slow a fire down

  • @scarlrtt13
    @scarlrtt13 3 года назад +2

    "had gone wrong?" The system has been wrong for a long time now.

  • @kashknob8
    @kashknob8 6 лет назад +1

    I am still so saddened and hurt 😥

  • @authenticallytrish
    @authenticallytrish 6 лет назад +1

    I agree they should have been told to leave the flats. The most tragic thing is that they were told to wait and had hope they would survive.

  • @shahreenghaffar4198
    @shahreenghaffar4198 5 лет назад +3

    Truly breaks my heart this tragedy al them innocent people ..who to blame...the fridge ? Or them morons who made this who didnt have any safety for lifes?? Rip grenfell x

  • @robsonclark6463
    @robsonclark6463 Год назад +1

    No one was sues or held accountable to this day

  • @tobasamadi3644
    @tobasamadi3644 4 года назад +1

    It was near Westfield as well.

  • @poloblue1579
    @poloblue1579 6 лет назад +1

    I don’t understand the purpose of this model. What will it do for the victims? It doesn’t answer the questions - why did this happen? Why was the building unsafe? Why was the building never inspected and updated? Nothing will bring back those who lost their lives but a 3D computer model shouldn’t be the priority here. More efforts should be put into finding answers, helping survivors, and putting measures into place to make sure this never happens again - considering that there are many tower blocks standing right now with the same lack of safety. Instead of wasting time building pixelated Lego creations, look after the victims and ensure this tragedy doesn’t repeat itself.

    • @weldonyoung1013
      @weldonyoung1013 2 года назад

      Or lookup the 3 Public Inquiries and wait for the criminal & civil trials.

  • @underneonloneliness2
    @underneonloneliness2 6 лет назад +8

    Why can’t tall buildings have big ladders attached to the outside of the building so people can climb down. Or why can’t they make something to put on the ground, like a massive polystyrene box so people can jump out onto it. Nobody is ever prepared for burning tall buildings! It’s pathetic especially after 9/11

    • @Balnazzardi
      @Balnazzardi 6 лет назад +2

      In any newer buildings these kind of fire safety and evacuation measures have been taken into account....however with these old buildings built in 60s 70s and even 80s, the fire safety was NOT at the level it is now....and ofc the damn cladding installed on the outer walls was the thing that allowed this disaster to happen in the first place, without it the fire would have been contained in the 4th floor where it had started.

    • @spex357
      @spex357 6 лет назад +4

      Most windows don't allow escape for a reason, the same reason keeps the roof out of bounds. Ladders on the outside mean people can climb up as well as down.
      This block has survived for fifty years on the Fire regulations of the day with no problem until the self Auditing corrupt Construction Industry fitted some flammable cladding.

    • @GameFreak7744
      @GameFreak7744 6 лет назад

      Well part of the issue here is that it was the outside of the building that was on fire...

  • @mjc5509
    @mjc5509 2 года назад +1

    THIS AREA OF LONDON WAS ALWAYS DISMAL. NOW IT HAS A CURIOUS AURA OF SADNESS. MAY THE SOULS OF THE LOST REST IN ETERNAL PEACE

  • @IngoPagels
    @IngoPagels 4 года назад +1

    ok, lots of ppls talking - just ONE question: How many buildings, in the UK, are build similar or identitcal?
    No one wants to answer cause they do not want to rebuild half of the city towers.

    • @FowlorTheRooster1990
      @FowlorTheRooster1990 3 года назад

      the design of grenfell tower worked before they added the cladding, the design made it so if there was a fire on one of the floors it would be contained until fire brigade arrive to put it out. when they added the cladding if there was fire and the fire was able to spread to the cladding the flames would shoot up the air space between the cladding and the walls because of the draft

  • @LeeFall
    @LeeFall 6 лет назад +2

    That same guy in the interview said it will be available to the public when interviewed on LBC...... Well its not....

    • @Nasherwood
      @Nasherwood 6 лет назад

      Lee Fall TM I don’t think it’s finished yet that’s probably why

  • @israelmckenzie9285
    @israelmckenzie9285 4 года назад

    This saddens me and it pisses me off as well. Justice 4 Grenfell

  • @sumayaakther6921
    @sumayaakther6921 6 лет назад

    9months later they’re still saying “71people” died. Unbelievable.

  • @David-uf8ex
    @David-uf8ex 3 года назад +2

    That awful interviewer is like a harpy getting that mans pain for her scoop , it’s shameful

  • @jscotland3148
    @jscotland3148 3 года назад +3

    Heartbreaking ❤️ 🙏🇬🇧

  • @athleticfreedom5760
    @athleticfreedom5760 6 лет назад

    Heartbreaking.

  • @abdinasirali3460
    @abdinasirali3460 6 лет назад +2

    Tragedy that will always stay in the hearts of bilions all over around the world .i pray it won't happen again .

  • @dancingbrave2820
    @dancingbrave2820 Год назад +1

    so shocking and very sad to see this preventable event