Rings Of Power Is A Travesty | Part 3
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When Sauron said "This ring is literal perfection".
And Galadriel replied "It will be, when it fits a woman." it was so precious i felt the Lord of Amazon could see me.
Surely the irony of this is that as seen in the original trilogy, the ring changes sizes to fit the bearer?!
@@Parafilm1337 I was hoping someone would point this out so i could tell them how i thought this through. lol
Firstly lets quickly acknowledge that in Batwoman she already has access to the suit, she just literally couldn't wear it.
But in the context of LOTR, when she tells Sauron "It will be, when it fits a woman.", clearly that means "It will be, when i'm wearing it.". (when it changes its size to fit a woman) And why would she say this to him? Because clearly she doesn't have it yet, he does. So then you realize the real scenario going on here. When Sauron said "This ring is literal perfection" he was boasting about his precious, taunting at Galadriel who couldn't have it. lol And so to try hurt his feels and let the audience know she's a feminist she says "It will be, when it fits a woman.".
And also if it didn't change size then they'd clearly have to try reforge it but then that'd just be making a whole new ring. But making a smaller suit would be a different suit too, so really to be more like Batwoman it'd have to make less sense. Of course she meant "When you make one that fits a woman." but that just wouldn't sound as cool. But anyway. lol
Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.
From where is this
@@Parafilm1337 The One Ring does. We know nothing of whether the other rings can do this. Odds are not since the One was the only one forged by Sauron himself.
@@ziebus904 batwoman
“You have not seen what I have seen” is said with a slight smile, as though she gains pleasure from bettering others arrogantly. If she had indeed seen something horrible, she would say the line with fear and despair, not cocky glee. God she’s vile in this show 😅
The whole show is just littered with concepts the writers thought they understood, but only managed to represent in rudimentary ways. Galadriel being bold and proud is actually pretty fitting to the lore, and even if it isn't, it would still make a bit of sense in terms of giving her a story arc where she grows. But being bold and proud isn't her only personality, because she's also compassionate, perceptive, and wise. What it looks like to me is the writers didn't have the thoughtfulness or skill to create an actually strong and complex character, and so... we have this 2D version of Galadriel instead.
@@jhmi7877 The amount of times she abandons people to their fate is laughable. Even in her introduction the writers show her to be obsessive and uncaring. By episode 7 she's walking past a guy crawling on the ground in pain and on fire.
“Let’s make Galadriel an arrogant, naive, psychotic sociopath that’s also a man-bashing, sexist”
-RoP writers
@@90hjorth "Also, let's kill her husband offscreen, effectively writing her granddaughter Arwen out of existence. That oughta shut the canon purists up!"
Its actually not the actor's fault, apparently with interviews, we found out that the Actors had to recreate their characteristic with minimal direction, because apparently the writers haven't even thought out that far yet. Apparently there was too many possible interpretations for each scene that even the Actors don't know what they were suppose to show because the Show runner doesn't know what they were trying to do and the Writers are confused.
ATT: I had to take down this video because RUclips decided to age restrict it with no specifics given. This is the re-upload with edits, but the video is effectively DOA now. Bye bye algorithm. 40 hours of work down the drain and all revenue lost. C’est la vie… Future videos will most likely contain a sponsor to counter this. Forgive me ahead of time. Thank you all.
I'll put it on loop on my pc
When people say "the youtube algorithm deranks my videos", or other similar things, how do they know that? Does youtube tell you that your video has been deranked? I don't overall understand the continual narrative I hear about the youtube algorithm...personally I find the videos in my "news feed" change quite a lot over the months and it usually seems to reflect which content I've been choosing to spend my time watching. Am I just stuck in confirmation bias? Am I only watching what I'm watching because of "the algorithm"? I can tell you for a fact that I will sometimes look up some artist or whatever to listen to a song and it's rarely the last I'll see of them, despite having been completely absent from my feed prior to that watch.
40 hours of work...
jeeez. YT sucks. Sorry man I loved the video yesterday. I don't understand how people enjoy such shitty product. Obviously the dialogue sucks, storyline sucks, music sucks... Show sucks. People who double down just because their tribe supports the show, sucks.
This need for people to ride or die with their team sucks.
@@BabudroSun It’s not rankings, it’s about recommendations. The longer subscribers watch, the more of them that watch, the more RUclips will recommend it to other people. But something like this knee caps recommendations entirely. The algorithm will stop showing it to anyone new, and it’ll also stop showing it to a lot of subscribers in their typical feeds to boot. I can literally see it happen in the analytics.
Don but not forgotten...
Don bless.
"There is a tempest within me!" Okay, who gave these writers my middle school journal?
What I thought was hilarious was how 100% backwards they got her demands for a boat to leave. She literally watched her uncle Feanor butcher her mother's side of the family because THEY wouldn't give HIM a boat; pretty sure that as soon as she even THOUGHT about saying something like that, she'd pull herself up short and go "Oh no, I'm turning into him!"
@@ChallengeIdeas do you actually think these incompetent writers even know who Feanor is ?
@@Nishanth_mementomori Probably not, and that's what makes it so funny. They're so wrong about everything that they've basically turned Mahgurl'gladrayell into one of the canonical Bad Elves.
@@ChallengeIdeas I'm so glad they don't have the rights to the Silmarillion........ Can't imagine how they would have butchered fingolfin and all those other legendary elves
@@ChallengeIdeas
It's actually implied in one of their flashbacks that the elves left Aman with many many ships (and that the main reason they went after Melkor is because of the destruction of the Two Trees) which means the Kinslaying in Alqualonde never happened (in this cringe fanfiction) AND the show never showed any crossing in Helcaraxe ....so....that means, in this fanfic's lOrE, Fëanor is actually THE wholesome GOOD guy. Hahahaha. So naturally, because their writers are clowns, they made the one character in Tolkien's lore who hated Fëanor so much, into a discount version of him. 🤣 Minus Fëanor's crafting skills, charisma, speech skills, and family issues.
In the pilot episode, the female elf is trying to convince everyone that Sauron is still alive and dangerous. But then, in the final episode, when she finally discovers proof that Sauron is alive and real, she doesn't say a word?
What the F**k?
Historytelling: 10/10
@@empacotador LAZY WRITING!
Well, of course not, because that would mean she would have to accept blame and responsibility from carting him around and giving him free pass everywhere he needed to go.
@@HickoryDickory86 Yeah, we can’t have a female character show weakness and show remorse, sadness and or regret. That would be good storytelling and we aren’t allowed to do that anymore.
The biggest crime in script and story writing is when the queen asked Galadriel what authority Galadriel has to boss everyone around was "There is a tempest in me!"
....so basically your argument is you have authority over everyone because you're angry?!
10/10. Well done, Amazon.
They stole that line from Elizabeth The Golden Age. Galadriel's armour also seems to have been inspired by the armour Cate Blanchett wears in that movie.
@@sailiealquadacil1284 they mixed that and the story about the "Fire" inside Feanor
Its the most Karen Line in a show full of Karens.
It's what the writers think patriarchy is like. That people listen to men because else they'll be violent. Because man strong and angry.
It's typical. The entire woke ideology is spinning around feelings.
The Galadriel actress mastered only 4 faces:
- emotionally blank resting face
- angry face
- condescending face
- twitching face (this one supposed to mean barely contained anger I would guess)
Ah! And a bonus face - really one of a kind - the one she made during her horse ride in ep.3. Made me worry for the people who have weak hearts, and also for those who happen to be eating or drinking at that moment. Now that terrifying face is immortalized in film. Yeah...
the Sauron reveal is even funnier when you remember he never lied to strong wahman. He outright told her he found the pendant on a dead guy and told her the line of kings died off.
Yeah; Guy-lad-dreezie just starts telling people he is the lost king of the Southlands despite him saying "No I'm not." She has the IQ of a cold room
yes but he looks like viggo mortensen so you knew he had to be a long lost king
Not to mention he abandoned his companions, never once felt bad about it, starts street fights, and yet she somehow thinks he is kingly material and becomes so determined to crown him she literally makes up a backstory for him.
for fucks sake - they were there in his supposed kingdom. did she not think to ask if someone (anyone) knew who he was ??
@@caffineandshiny
The 'abandoning of companions without feeling bad' is something he and Galadriel have in common.
It's hilarious that the only character who isn't a painfully inaccurate interpretation is the Balrog lmao
and he's only in it at all so they could put him in a trailer.
The Balrog is awakened by a falling leaf though, which is absolutely ridiculous since he didn't seem bothered so far by all the digging and mining 😅
@@deceiver444 I meant in that it looks the same and is a vicious monster.
@@michaeldavis9190 Indeed, they at least nailed this
@@michaeldavis9190 , I disagree! We don’t know, yet, if the balrog is a vicious monster or a coward who is even afraid of a tiny leaf 😉 He might even be rather nice, and when Amazon's show-runners asked him to show them a display of his stunning pyrotechnical capabilities, he was happy to oblige.
The dialogue is like they heard Shakespeare a few times, and remembered the word structure, but didn't realize in Shakespeare there's actual emotional and semantic reasons for the dialogue to have such epically dramatic word structure/prose.
I don't think it even fits the structure. They just say stuff that makes no sense
@@pyropulseIXXI I'm not a native English speaker, but the dialogue sounds very wooden from the first five minutes. It seems to me as if they're trying to write deep and meaningful dialogue from the first moment, but it just fails right away, because these characters aren't characters per se and just devices to move the 'plot' forward. They're not there to fill the space, they're there because they need to be there.
Like AI?
@@whitegoose2017 Perfectly said.
The entire "Elves are taking your jobs" thing gets even worse writing wise once you think about the fact that its just Galadriel. A singular elf, and the only things she has been demanding is a way to leave Numenor. There is ONE elf on all of Numenor, and that guy is arguing that they are losing jobs because of her. She arrived like 3 days ago and now she is taking all of their jobs. Now switch elf with mexican and numenor with america and it really sinks in just how absurd this is.
It's even more absurd when you realise all work in that world is manual, except for some tasks that can be animal, wind or water powered. Still, in middle ages lack of work was not a problem, lack of work force was.
@@MrDwieszopyjackson it's terrifying that this isn't just common knowledge or common sense. The orc daddy was literally creating jobs for orcs. The truest crime is shoving a fist through middle earth's chest and ripping out Tolkien soul with the addition of allagories. There's is nothing in any of the story lines that isn't just terrible. From the evil Hobbits who abandoned an entire family to the uneducated elves who don't know what an alloy is (and can somehow get tanned af).
"I abhor an allagorie" - Tolkien
THEY TOOK ER JEERRRRRBS!
I think the guy got mixed up and thought that he was in Windhelm of Skyrim.
@@duden7983 DERKEDERR!
"She drawned..."
THE SEA IS ALWAYS RIGHT
The problem isn't that they make so many writing mistakes, it's that they aren't willing to take criticism and use it to improve their craft.
They're just bad at everything. Bad at their job, bad at damage control, bad at self reflection, and bad at taking accountability.
The issue here is that there are many writers that could come up with a feasible, engageable storyline using Tolkien's IP. Instead, we have Hollywood/wealthy beneficiaries that have $1 billion thrown at them and this is the result.
@@sirsluggard7819 Hollywood isn't about talent, its about who you know that's why these days most screen writers seem incompetent... they didn't get their on ability, they got their by sucking up (sometime sucking on) the gate keepers
@@dislikebutton2462 I agree. Unfortunately, the Greek's and Sir Phillip Sidney's view on art, that it should both instruct and delight, has been lost. The delight is still there in the acting (sometimes) and the visuals. The delight in catharsis and deeper meaning is gone.
Hence the poor writing and never getting a script published till this show. Clearly a full resistance to criticism and improvement
Let's also mention how underwhelming Numenor is. That place is supposed to be 10 times as grand as Gondor was in its freaking prime and it doesn't hold a candle to Minas Tirith (WHICH ISN'T EVEN THE ORIGINAL CAPITAL OF GONDOR! Osgiliath was). Also, Eldrond's brother is the progenitor of the Numenorian kings. It would have made WAY more sense for him to be there helping them out as they're related to him. Also, Galadriel is the oldest elf in Middle Earth. I'm pretty sure Gil-Galad's father is one of her brothers. I don't understand why she acts like a 20 year old karen when Galadriel is thousands of years old. For Reference, Arwen and Legolas are both like 2-3 thousand years old in LOTR and act like otherworldly stoic beings. Galadriel is less mature than human characters in the setting. It's absolute character assassination.
The background of the movie set..the actors of the villagers ..the series is so bad .I was so pissed off that I had waited 20 years for a series of this caliber to be worst than those high school plays. ..the dialogue is between terrible..I will never watch series two ..even if Amazon offer it for free
Cirdan the Shipwright is the oldest known elf in Middle Earth. Although Galadriel is also EXTREMELY old, quite possibly the second oldest, so it doesn't really change much.
@@LordZedz yeah, she isn't the oldest, but she is still several thousands of years old and older than Gil-Galad, Elrond and Celebrimbor. Yet she acts and looks younger than all of them.
Couldn't agree more. What they did to Galadriel is criminal, they completely stripped her of wisdom and nobility, just so they could say that women who lack those qualities are awesome. Shame, shame, shame.
Where is her empathic power to see into other’s hearts? How can she miss that Anatar is bloody Sauron? Ludicrous!
I still maintain the most ridiculous part of the Hallbrand "deception" is the fact that Galadriel WOULD KNOW THAT THE LINE OF KINGS IN THE SOUTHLAND HAS BEEN BROKEN FOR 1000 YEARS. At the time these events are taking place in Middle Earth Galadriel is already a couple thousand years old and has been fairly heavily involved in the politics of the realms throughout that time. Her not realizing this 28 year old dude isn't actually the successor to the throne would be like an important statesman from 1022 still being alive and very active in politics today saying, "What do you mean there's no more Roman Emperor? Whaaa?!?!" It's absurd.
I still can't really work out why Galadriel assumed halbrand was the king of the southlands aside from "the script says so" like ok he has a random pouch? Seems like a huge leap for her to make with zero evidence
yes, and she should have KNOWN that there was no southland king, Elves were patrolling that region for at least 70 years.
@@scambammer6102 Not only that, but Galadriel was alive and active in the politics of the realms of Middle Earth at the time the line of kings in the Southlands was broken. This wouldn't be that dissimilar from a present day politican/4-Star General having no clue that the Berlin Wall fell and the Soviet union has been broken up.
He even said he found the pouch on a dead man, so Galadriel has... negative evidence?
AND he literally told her he took it off a dead man
Simple rule of thumb if you're wondering whether something in ROP was actually in the books... It wasn't.
That's pretty spot on.
One elf lands on their shore and they lock the elf up. Numenorians go on to call her out for being an elf lover and that elfs are going to take all their jobs even though they have not interacted with them in many years....That is great writing right there I am speechless bravo!
Bravo Vince!
Honestly I love Rings of Power. I've had insomnia for years and this show is the only medicine that works. Each phenomenal episode is so well made, within 5 minutes I'm lights out.
Truly a wonderful tonic, guaranteed to give you a good nights sleep. 10/10 recommend 👍
Did you smoke something heavy before posting this mess? It's completely horrible what amazon is doing It's crap.
@@loonowolf2160 lol you stupid nobhead, read it again and delete your comment.
@@loonowolf2160 cant u se that this is sarcasm my god
@@loonowolf2160 it's obvious sarcasm retard
Had me in the first half not gonna lie 🤣
I like how Mordor is created by nobody guy from the village.
the problem with galadriel's fighting is she is not athletic or quick and as a result her fighting style entirely depends on whoever she is fighting to not stab her and let her do whatever
She can kill a giant troll or take on 5 soldiers all by herself (whether it's in the street or shoving them into a jail cell). She can ride upside-down on her horse, making orcs explode with her sword...
But all Sauron has to do to stop her from stabbing him with her dagger is to casually lift his hand and hold her wrist.
her fight scenes are ridiculous. They wanted a fighting galadriel but didn't even hire an actress that can fight. Just 1 of 1000 acts of incompetence in this show.
If you think that fighting was bad, check out Iron Fist. Everyone in the show, including the lead character, looks like it's their first Taekwondo class LMAO it's really sad.
and camera angles lol
For start, Galadriel never was a fighter !!
I've gotten more entertainment from these types of videos on Rings of Power than many things. I'm glad that Amazon made the show even if I'll never watch it
When the only reason you subverted expectations is because *everybody* thought "Well, there's NO WAY the writers would make this mystery THAT F!ng obvious..."
Dude, when he bluntly just said "she drowned" after it seemed like he was building up to something super inspirational or introspective was by far my favorite part of what I watched of the series. Did a total spit take when I first saw it. I was howling. Then he just walks off. It was magic.
i burst out laughing at that scene hahahah hes like blah blah blah the sunrise here sun rise here its night time. she drowned
i swear a bot wrote the script
I.. I... I just can't. Can't stop laughing at "There is a tempest in me"
It's like looking at a train accident.... 😩
The “How did your wife die” question and answer was the moment i was done with Rop. It was such a throw away answer “she drowned” after waffling on about fuck all seconds before 🤯
The C is always right.
Also in ep6. The Numenorians manage to go from so far off the coast no one but Galadriel can see it, to charging across the land full pelt like they knew exactly where they were going, and that it was under attack, to arriving in the battle in about 20 minutes. Then Galadriel gets swallowed by an avalanche of fire and ash that scorched that land...but leaves her entirely unharmed... 😶
Yeah, they saved a few peasants, they should be so proud, what a great victory.
That volcano scene would've been a good time to show galadriel encase herself in light, protecting her from the volcano and showing her "witch" side. But instead they just let her get pummeled by the volcano and survive lol
Not to mention that they also somehow managed to climb an impassable mountain range with horses (!) and that the sun was in the wrong position (or they were coming in from the east) when they arrived.
There is one good thing you can say about this show, though.
It got me to go back and re-read The Silmarillion, The Children of Hurin, and Unfinished Tales for the first time in years, and very carefully too. I have a better understanding of Tolkien's work than I ever had before. That would not have happened without this show.
Thank you, Amazon. Thank you, Rings of Power.
Honestly this is exactly what I want to do. I don't ever want to watch a show like this unprepared ever again. I watched Lord of the Rings and was blown away, having known nothing. I watched this and was so mildly entertained, horribly confused, pretty frustrated throughout. I would rather have just been so offended by the changes that I would have steered clear in the first place! Imagine loving this series (yikes) and looking into the source material to find it is completely different, and a million times better, lol.
I did the same thing.
Yeah, I'm reading it right now as well 🙂
I've been reading the Silmarillion too, and watched all the movies with my young siblings to try and get them interested in fantasy. Amazing experience all around.
They could at least have the decency to tell you why they took it down 🤬
It would be less ridiculous if they didn’t say in the email that “the video doesn’t necessarily go against our guidelines”. So… I did nothing wrong, but you’re doing this anyway, is what that says to me.
@@TheMovieCynicI think because of the sheer volume of videos they have, the AI is the one that made the decision. But since the AI isn't always right, they have that statement. And I think it's because of the swear word in the video, so maybe put a sound effect on it or just say F instead.
They manually reviewed it and upheld the restriction on the original video-although I doubt they have an actual human watch it. They allow swearing but it could be 1) the “f” bomb rant in a clip I used, 2) the clip of the dude falling down the stairs. I’ve edited both of those out of this one (the stairs clip edit is still processing, didn’t think of it until after the re-upload). If they restrict now, the absurdity intensifies.
@@TheMovieCynic I know some RUclipsrs upload their videos but wait 24 hours to make it public so they can know how the AI judges their videos.
@@KC_79 Always a very good idea. I think I’ll be taking that advice.
The Drinker and you are right so keep doing what you do brother. F anyone who wants to attack you rather than just not watching, some people love to fight and hate being wrong. It doesn't help their delusional believing their feelings and thoughts surpass everyone else's.
"Little house on the patriarchy." 😂🤣
ROP Galadriel should have been revealed as Sauron instead of Halbrand. It would make her awful attitude more in line with secretly being an evil wizard. I like to think that the real Galadriel is off on another adventure with Celeborn.
And then Halbrand could've been revealed as the real Galadriel
@@pyropulseIXXI 🤣🤣🤣 Yes!
Right after the volcano G is revealed as Sauron. That's what I was hoping for.
In bad writing, the characters do what the writer wants.
In good writing, the writer does what the characters want.
Oh great wizard spell this out thee who is fucking tired from over work what this means because it actually seems interesting and yet like I said I'm braind dead now.
I am big fan of Tolkien. I read Hobbit 8 times. I read Silmarillion several times. Once even without skipping a single page there (it is not easy book to read). I even visited grave of Mr. Tolkien and laid flowers there!
But boy, I can't be bothered to watch this show!!! 😭😭😭
On mithril, that was the reason for Moria's wealth; Gandalf says so in The Fellowship of the Ring. Mithril was also found in Aman and on Númenor (before it fell). It was not magical, just almost miraculously light and hard.
Well you know, when you are making shit up and already proclaimed you know better about tolkiens work than the entire literary world, even those who have studied it since before you where born, Then you can claim it can do anything you want.
Tbh I did not want to believe that Halbrand was Sauron. I considered the possibility, then dismissed it because Halbrand was acting way too different than what I imagined Sauron to be like. The final reveal came as a negative surprise.
same here. discount aragorn was way too nice to be sauron. but after he asked adar if he knew him it was obvious. But then why did he stop G from killing adar? No part of the show makes any sense.
@@scambammer6102 The first instant I saw him being the guy who plucked Galadriel out of the ocean, I thought, "So, that's Isildur, huh? Got shipwrecked on an adventure and is giving a false name so as to avoid being ransomed by pirates?" But NO, my expectations were subverted!
Then the sea serpent comes along and I was like, "So, Galadriel is going to do a Legolas-style QTE, save the people on the raft, and be welcomed as a hero to Numenor, right? Maybe she and Not-Isildur here will tag-team the monster and become friends?" But NO, expectations subverted again!
You underrated Adar. Easily most interesting character in the show and well acted considering what little he was given to work with. Dwarf lady was good as well, no argument there. Loved how they gave her a lady Macbeth twist.
Adar was seriously my favorite but the actor left.
That's because Joseph Mawle rocks, he's an incredible actor. No wonder he left the show...
Yes i heard he's gone. Shame but understood if it was his decision to go.
Dwarf wife was awesome tbh. All of the Dwarf parts were the best stuff in the show. Bootleg Legolas wasn't bad either. But the rest? 🫤 Meh.
Adar quit after Amazon gave him something that's rare in the acting world. A flat out 5 season deal! And Tolkien dispised allegory as well as hated Shakespeare lol
15:00 Gotta love that Numenorian Ship Schematic, it's even got a lift.
Features...
- Flammable Wine over all the troops and animals, 2 floors of it.
- Huge Wine storage area, under Galadriels Room. That explains a lot...
- Galadriel is the only person with a room.
- No Toilets, 100 Buckets on Standby.
- No Barracks, standing room only.
- 3 floors of troops and troopete's, in heavy Plastic armour. 100 Troops / Troopete's in total.
- 4 floors of Horses and battle equipment, 100 Horses total, plus food and Dung Shovellers.
- 2 floors of supplies.
- Twin turbo propellers.
- Mithril Turbo Ship Engine.
- 2,000 Gallons of Mithril Fuel.
- 9 floors below the water-line, that's about 80 to 100 feet below the water level. Numenorian Harbours must be deep.
Numenorians, are on the next level of ship building...
And they use a Mithril Mass relay to reach Mordor in 3 seconds
That Numenorean ship drawing is hilarious.
There is a fan film called Born of Hope, it has a women called Elgarain as a protagonist, it tells you a story about how her and the last of the dunedain including Aragorn's father gave their lives to save aragorn from an orc group who knew who they were and were seeking to wipe out Isildur's lineage, the story is beautiful and has a woman as a protagonist and i would be surprised if their budget goes over a million dolars, the writing is pretty good and you can see everyone's passion for the project and for Tolkien's work, its amazing how that small movie outclass this series in every way.
Galadriel as a strong protagonist would have worked so well if they had chosen to stay closer to the lore. It's pretty telling that their own interpretation is this shallow and careless.
That film sounds interesting.
@@jhmi7877 Whatch it bro you won't regret it
That fan film doesn't get Tolkien either and it's another terrible female character writen as a man with boobs. It's a D&D bastardization of Tolkien, exactly like ROP.
Fan films are lame as hell. Just making up pure nonsense. If you are working in another's work, you adapt it, not make crap up
@@alfgui3295 Exactly; who the f*ck actually likes this crap? LOTR worked because it was a faithful (for the most part) adaptation, not some crap just making stuff up.
"Do you want to know why airplanes fly and submarines sink? Because you've not seen what I've seen, I'm good and there is a tempest in me. Nobody goes off trail because the sea is always right. Trust your nose (on an open fucking hill)"
They took our jobs guy said the queens eyes are blind or an elf lover. I guess the writers were trying to foreshadow with that line
These actors especially token elf, were all about how “important” this show is or that “it was hard to relate to the movies because I didn’t see myself represented”. Yet here I am a gay brown skinned Puerto Rican, me and all my friends (from different backgrounds) all loved the movies and enjoyed talking about how much we enjoyed them and couldn’t wait for the next film. But this, this would be a huge pass. These Hollywood elites love tokenism.
I actually have not that much of a problem with the "Even the hottest embers go cold"-Line, it even makes a certain amount of sense: The Dwarves are miners, they forge a lot of stuff, and it stands to reason that their language - including figures of speech - reflect that.
It's also a true statement, which seems like an odd thing to congratulate, but given that we were treated to what I would carefully describe as an "esoteric interpretation of the archimedean principle" in one of the opening scenes, I guess this is where we're at now.
The line is stupid because it isn't some witty line; it is beyond obvious. Everyone knows that embers go cold. And no, they didn't give an esoteric interpretation of buoyancy.
Do you not know what esoteric means? It means hidden truths from the public.
@@pyropulseIXXI Figures of speech can also be obvious, thats totally fine. Not everything has to be profound.
Also, no, thats not what esoteric means. It originally stems from the Greek meaning "within", or "of the inner circle". It is used in that way talking about some of Aristotles scientific works, as opposed to his works for the public.
What I meant, however, was a secondary meaning of the world relating closer to what some call western esotericism.
Going forward in what is almost certainly going to be a debate of some sort, let me make something quite clear. I am not stupid, nor am I here argue semantics. My life is limited, and I will not waste parts of it arguing idiocy that I could otherwise spend productively.
Bring something of value or bugger off.
After a couple episodes, my gf couldn't understand why I hated this show. So we stopped and watched TLOTR & The hobbit trilogies.... Now she hates the show too
Read all the books then see how crap it is 😓
You're 10000% right about Disa. Best actor and character in the show, but the fainbating was pushed so hard everyone was primed to hate her. She is precisely what I pictured as a dwarf lady (yes, I know, beards, whatever) and I loved her.
Props to the Bucaneers coach for not playing along with those reporters who wanted their daily oppression article.
Subscribed to your channel after hearing about you on the Drinkers channel. Love your channel as well. American drinker is the perfect moniker for you. Thank you for your channel. You and the drinker understand what a good story should have, and you realize, that audiences are not stupid. We know what’s good when it comes to a story and movie. At least, those of us who are fans of that type of media.
“Needs to reflect the world we live in today” is a curse
It remains astounding to me how so many people claim they need diversity to fight against racism, yet they're simultaneously the ones who say they can't enjoy a movie if the actor's skin color isn't the "right one". They're so close to putting 2 and 2 together, and yet so far.
Also there's a special place for those who think "it's fantasy, so the characters always do what the writers want" excuses terrible writing. It's called the preschool section at the library.
20:50 Lol I love how when they bow to Gandalf he's just like "HURRR-DURRRR"
26:15 when i had gallstones in my gallbladder the pain was comparable to a gutshot, or a stab. I was sweating ice-cold sweat like a pig. I was wincing. I was wheezing. I couldn't breathe. I couldn't keep my saliva in mouth, drooling uncontrollably. I couldn't even think. I was suffering the simulation of dying for up to 8 hours. Several times a f year untill i finally had medical procedure. Even something as simple as removing piece of medical rubber tube from the procedure felt like stabbing. This dude peacefully just dozing off with a piece of iron in his gut is almost insulting.
Goddamn, that sounds like hell on earth. I hope you're feeling better nowadays.
Fuck this show, right down to the caterer.
@@EsteemedReptile well.. i do feel.. Kind of better. I no longer have the stabbing pain (as i have no more gall stones..and gall bladder), but that caused plenty of other problems. Everything i eat stays in my stomach for much, much longer. I also often have the pain of overeating (even if i wont eat much)... All the while i used to have for few months this weird and truly nasty sensation of dying of hunger. Like there's black hole in my stomach. That was really f up. I'm still waiting for things to calm down.
You are spot on. It was appalling, simply unwatchable and unacceptable.
I’m glad I didn’t watch an single episode.
20:39 Galadriel is the same size as that kid. Galadriel who is described as the tallest od the elves
Thank you for the video! You definitely made me LOL multiple times! i'm sorry you had trouble with the authorities but we appreciate your resilience both in watching the show, and analyzing it, and making videos! 😍🙌😆
RUclips gave me this video first. I took your advice and went and watched Parts 1 and 2 first before continuing on with this.
You have written well and I enjoyed your criticisms and explanations for them. Enough to subscribe.
As for being demonetisation: possibly Amazon trying to protect themselves from well reasoned content?
Edit. "Mordor gets created through a case of idiocy" had my laughing hard. Thanks.
After seeing how evil Galadriel is it shouldn’t be that surprising she made sauron when the dude just want a peaceful life
You did a great job with these 3 videos I can tell you put a lot of time into them, and a bang on assessment too. I'm surprised you're not part of he Friday Night Tights show
Soul and money rarely go hand in hand. This series is the triumph of decadence of imagination and talent we have been witnessing for a long while now.
Happy to watch this show be dismantled at the molecular level over and over
So proud to see my Númenorean ship meme in your review. :)
that’s yours?!!!
@@TheMovieCynic Yeah, the original is in r/MemesOfPower, but someone else re-posted it under his own account in r/lotrmemes. Glad to see that you enjoyed it. :)
@@olivierm4088 I’ll edit the details and give you credit, wish I could edit the video to do so. Brilliant stuff man, had my absolutely cracking up
@@TheMovieCynic You're so kind. No need to edit your video! It's perfect. ;)
I absolutely love this video.
Brilliant!! You just earned by respect. Nice work!!
I found this review more enjoyable than the show. Probably cause the writing is better 😊
22:00 So it's basically politics or fake friend groups? We make a big show in public about how loving and close knit we are, but in reality we're all selfish cowards that are using each other. I feel like this is going to become more common in stories as politics and social media continue to replace natural human relationships.
I discovered your channel recently and quickly subscribed. I love your work. Thank you sir!
the cat fight quip had me bursting out laughing--- more of a reaction than I got from the whole ifing season. Your commentary is more entertaining than the show (by far).
yeah, and the meow was priceless 🙂
It sure is something when you show footage of Rings of Power and then the Lord of the rings and one cant believe how amazing the lord of the rings movies were and how this show is not
The greatest mistake was that Galadriel would not have seen through Anatar being Sauron.
Her greatest power was her rmpathic ability to see into the hearts of others and see their flaws. She did it with Feänor when he asked for a strand of her hair to place in a jewel (where was that beautiful hair in the show?). She looked into Saruman’s heart and saw his great flaws and consequently she would rather have had Gandalf as head of the White Council. And finally, she looked into the hearts of the Fellowship of the Ring and saw how Boromir was tempted by the power of the One Ring. How would she not have noticed something “off” about this Anatar character? How would she not have noticed he was an immensely powerful Maiar?
How did this go over the heads of the ROP scriptwriters when they were building their “Badass” Galadriel?
They're clearly setting up that she received that ability from her Ring
She could not because Sauron was a master manipulator. He was simply more powerful than Galadriel. The problem with Galadriel is that she seems completely off character from the books. She is the most powerful character in Middle Earth. She is more powerful than Gandalf that kills the Balrog. Yet she seems to be completely unable to handle some puny humans.
@@wyssmaster Except she did it with Feanor about 10,000 years before any ring was made.
@@melange78 She is not more powerful than Gandalf. She is a high Elf that saw the light of the two trees directly. But she is not more powerful than a Maiar and she could not hand to hand a Balrog.
@@melange78 Sauron was a master manipulator. But only of people with weaknesses he could manipulate. Galadriel is a master empathic, it is her great power above all else. Tolkien does not mention if she met Sauron in his time in Eregion as Anatar, mainly because she would have seen through him and had no weaknesses to manipulate.
Man YT sucks, though it's not like I mind listening to this again, I really enjoy watching your video essays particularly during my workouts, and I'll definitely rewatch all of the ROP ones 🤷🏻♀️
Thank you Danni, I really appreciate that!
"Elven ships on our shores! They seek to take our craft!"
...no... no ships, plural. Not even a single ship. One, single elf. And she wants to leave. So... why not let her leave? You clearly don't want her here... This is what's called "manufactured conflict"... Both sides want the same thing, ultimately, but have to disagree, because otherwise, the show has *literally nothing to do*. Not that it had all that much to do before this.
she already swam from valinor. surely she can dog paddle the rest of the way to middle earth
I'm starting to believe the terrible acting of Galadriel is due to botox. Her forehead doesn't move, so it makes her acting even less believable than her ability allows.
On the same note, whenever they do a close up of Galadriel, she does this random twitch of her cheeks/lip that is distracting as hell. Is that her idea of dramatic acting? Because it's terrible
She's a rank amateur who is WAY out of her depth. Admirable for her to shoot so high, but she's aiming for the moon with a slingshot.
You want great acting done on the back of subtle facial expressions and closeups? Check out Javier Bardiem doing the "coin toss" scene in No Country For Old Men. Watch Dean Norris as Hank Schrader stare in disbelief once he realises who Heisenberg is. Watch Rhea Seehorn as Kim Wexler grapple with the dilemma of whether or not to stick up for Jimmy.
Morfydd Clarke is a highschool theatre dropout, bumbling her way through her first ever big dramatic role with zero guidance and zero accountability.
Maybe it’s a side effect of the Botox? Shooting your face full of neurotoxins is bound to have adverse side effects.
I take your points, but I do think if the dialogue is clunky and terrible (as it is this show) then there’s only so much the actors can do with the material.
Even if an actress you preferred was chosen for the role, there is still so much wrong with the script, dialogue and characterisation that we’d still have a problem. I don’t get how when editing the show, they didn’t realise how Unlikeable the character is. We’re supposed to root for her, but more people seem to side with Sauron. 😂
"little house on the patriarchy" LMAO
As a soap opera watcher when I was young in the 80 ..I watch days of our live ..general hospital ..on broadcast channel ..this is worst than any of these soap opera tv series..
The moment I knew there was a black elf in his show, I knew it would be a wokefest
I know from certain who individuals who have connections to the show that it was a knightmare behind the scenes. people were fired left and right, writers couldn't agree what story they wanted to tell, the show was originally about a young Aragorn, some wanted to adapt the Silmarillion but didn't have the adaption rights to the book, the Tolkien estate giving them a long list of things they could and couldn't do on the show such as referencing the movies (even though the showrunners wanted to connect ROP to the movies) writers being fired because they wanted to insert more woke elemets into the show and was met with disapproval, a Tolkien scholar being fired, COVID19 impacting everything, the originally being 10 episodes but somewhere being changed to 8 instead, Jeff Bezos allegedly visiting the set and was furious on what he saw and demanded changes to be made in the middle of shooting. All in all, this show was produced with everyone's hands tied behind their backs, not really knowing what they wanted to do and the clock was ticking, and the best they could come up with was fan fiction.
all adaptations are fan fiction. Or in this case, anti-fan fiction
This show makes the Hobbit trilogy, the Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of War look amazing
Hobbit has some good bits.
I'll choose Tauriel as a main protagonist over Guyladriel anyday.
@@queenberuthiel5469 at least she was feminine, understandable, and had character growth (albeit poorly done)…..and then there is strong woman here from ROP…….☠️
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10 reasons why I choose Tauriel over Guyladriel:
1. She's played by Evangeline Lily and she actually managed to make me feel for her despite the mediocre script and cringe lines.
2. Even if she's like a teenage girl falling for a guy she meet in a day, she still acts like a responsible elf adult.
3. Compared to Guyladriel, she's just a wood elf/Silvan elf so it makes sense that she's immature and Silvan elves are known to be less wise and have less knowledge compared to the high elves.
4. Tauriel can be legit thousand of years younger than Guyladriel so, again, an explanation to her actions.
5. Tauriel have a more noble reason in defying her king (compared to Guyladriel's revenge blah blah), which is to look past their elven borders and offer help to those who needs it. We can see her helping Bard's family, the dwarves and she also tried to fight Bolg. Guyladriel's revenge bs is just a plot device, is never established, and the fact that they failed to make us care for her relationship with her brother really shows the lazy writing.
6. Tauriel, a captain guard, have more to her character aside from being an experienced elven warrior unlike Guyladriel who don't who she's supposed to be without her sword. Hell, we saw Tauriel heal Kili. She cares for the life and safety of others, even shows her maternal side when she's with Bard's daughters.
7. I have 0 problem with fighting style. She fights like an elf ninja and she's entertaining to watch. Yeah, she don't have the best fight scenes but hers are definitely 1000% better that Guyladriel's.
8. She can show different emotions lol.
9. She is not a Mary Sue or a Karen.
10. She's an original PJ character and not a butchered canon character.
We have a word in german that describes your video best "Großartig!" thank you dude, you gave me some serious laughs.
Since the Amazon company decided to produce this show, I've been rooting for it to fail, and I'm relieved to find out this is happening.
I write novels. I used to think they don't sell because they aren't good. However, after seeing all the BAD writing that gets people paid, I now believe I'm too good haha. I'm half serious. But it really has been a tsunami of bad writing all over Hollywood.
I used to think they didn't* sell. Maybe it's your grammar? Also you shouldn't start a sentence with 'but'.
@@30noir there's nothing wrong with his grammar. you don't know squat.
The already watched it gang 😎
"Yes."
-Bilbo Baggins
"[...] We don't look at color."
"But you also understand that representation matters too, right? [...]"
Peak fucking journalism. He was very diplomatic about his answer.
found you from the Critical Drinkers stream from Black panther. you got yourself a new sub. good content.
Thanks Jeremy!
Good to see that your video is back.
By the way, did you put some thought to my suggestion about covering House of the Dragon?
Yes, I believe I responded but you probably didn’t get a chance to see it as the comments went down with the ship that was this video. I think you’re right that it’d be interesting going into it without knowledge of GoT and give some “unbiased” feedback about it, so I’ll give it a shot! Hopefully can get a review out before the end of the year.
@@TheMovieCynic Great to hear that, I'll be on a lookout for that.
Keep up the good work and don't let the internet eat you alive because of your opinions.
I think they made a fairly basic error with Galadriel: They assumed sympathy from the audience and thus abstained from creating any counter-balance to her her otherwise partly narcissistic and partly PTSD-like behaviour (effectively creating a sort of one-dimensional cheap comic book villain type of character)
And I think it’s likely that it happened because they thought that:
- Having a “strong” female lead would automatically garner sympathy, mistaking the cultural climate for character building.
- Having “strong” being mistaken with: being good at everything by default and having an attitude of being better than everyone else with any questionable trait explainable as a tragically endearing response to the blatant evil of others.
- Combining this with being a pretty, blond person in theatrical attires so as to suggest a perpetual state of being the light of the world.
If you buy that I would concede that there is a chance you might find her destructive and manipulative behaviour interesting or even justified. The thing is that it is just not on the page.
I would further suggest that this may be a product of a confusion about the relationship between fiction and reality, where certain perceptions of what is real is injected or superficially referenced or signalled within the format of fiction - actually rendering fiction not really fictitious at all. This all stems from the flawed perception that preferred ideologies of the proposed real are themselves not narratives but simply referencing some natural state of reality as is.
You have more creativity in how you spell each episode number than the show runners do
I gave up after episode 1, and from what I've seen I'm glad of that, so thanks for doing these reviews. Did they address how all those 16 other rings later given to men (9) and dwarves (7) come about? I'm pretty sure they're rather important later. In the books, they are made first with the aid of Sauron, and the 3 are then made by the elves alone, but in the show that can't happen now. Sauron has been revealed, and if he can make them just on his own, why doesn't he make a load more? If they don't get made, then where do the Nazgul come from? If they get made after the three, why are they made at all, and why are they then less powerful than the 3?
Of course it was a writing disaster. They took on the writing of one of the greatest writers of the 20th century, and then tried to do the exact opposite of what he did. The opposite of greatness is not greatness.
Sauron is my favourite part of the show, because even though it is a horrible portrayal of him and they got everything about him wrong, that one shot of him walking in with the orca entirely black is pretty cool.
Would maybe be at least somewhat interesting if the wizard was a wizard, but Saruman, not Gandalf. They could have given hints that he might be vulnerable to the temptation of power to keep some tension going during the next seasons. But yep, has to be Gandalf because hey, Gandalf is the one everybody remembers, right?
Would’ve went a long way if they just off screened Sauron telling Celebrinbor how to improve the rings, we could’ve assumed whatever was said furthered his plot. Could’ve just had them discussing the rings, implying Cele is the best and he already did his best, and ending with Sauron saying something that peaks his interest in the possibility of creating better rings than he thought possible. And then end the scene before he gives a technical break down on how they’re gonna do it
You realize Sauron spent 300 years teaching them this craft, right? It would be like teaching someone how to build a modern day computer from scratch, making the parts yourself without factories or industry. It would take forever, and tons of secrets it would involve
Just saying one thing that 'peaks his interest' is stupid. That isn't how things work; it isn't that simple to craft magic rings
Why was 6 afraid of 7? It's a fairly common question, mostly because when people see 6 and 7 next to each other, it doesn't really make sense. 6 is large, muscled, and trained in multiple martial arts, while 7 is fairly average, physically, and short. However, 6's fear of 7 has its roots in childhood. See, 6 and 7 grew up together, and for a few years, they were best friends. But then 6 kissed 3, and they became childhood sweethearts. 7 secretly had feelings for 3, so 7 decided he needed to destroy 6 to win 3's affection. He started subtly, undermining 6 whenever possible with passive aggressive comments and compli-sults. But over time, things got much more insidious. 7 started messing with 6's performance in school, bringing down his grades and turning teachers against him. Even worse, 7 became great friends with 6's parents and slowly turned them against their own offspring. At night, 7 would sneak into 6's bedroom, and whisper depressing and hopeless things into his ears. Every time 3 was around, 7 would pants 6 and make fun of his genitalia, or try to body shame him in other ways. However, 3 was both smart and compassionate, and saw through 7's schemes, sticking with 6, trying to counter 7's psychological tear-down with compliments and friendship. Finally, 7 decided that he would never be able to win 3, so he drugged both 6 and 3, taking them to an abandoned cobbler's hut on the edge of town. There, he proceeded to torture and maim 3, forcing 6 to watch in horror, unable to do anything to save his sweetheart. 7 didn't kill 3, but instead, put her in a semi-vegetative state. 7 cleaned the scene of his prescence, then called the cops, having 6 blamed for 3's condition. 6 was sent to prison, believing 6 was guilty, 6's parents fell into a deep depression, eventually committing suicide over what they believed 6 had done. After serving 17 years of a 30 year sentence, and getting out on good behaviour, 6, now muscled and skilled as a fighter, thought he might get revenge on 7. But when he finally tracked down 7, he found out that 7 had installed a micro-bomb into 3's body, and should he be killed, the bomb would automatically go off and kill 3 as well. And though she was still in a mostly fugue state, 6 couldn't bring himself to hurt her any further, and decided to try and move on with his life. However, being an ex-con, it was difficult for him to get a job. 6 finally found employment at a diner, which 7 then bought, and proceeded to again undermine and toy with 6 at every turn. 6 tried to find employment elsewhere, but 7 contacted any potential employer and soured them against 6. 6 finally realized that no matter what he did, 7 was going to try and ruin his life, and he resigned himself to living as a broken, lonely man, never able to stand up to the depraved, amoral 7.
What is this lol
@@yilz123 It's a 7 ate 9 joke that mutated into a free writing rant about random shit. Still a better plot than ROP tho
The story of "6 & 7" is such a heartbreaking tale. Not many people know this, but it was actually the inspiration for Shakespeare's "Romeo & Juliet." True story.
@@yilz123 Yes.
Man 7 is an asshole
"There is a tempest in me" - things I say after 2am Taco Bell for 200, Alex.
Found your channel because I watch the drinker. If he's crass sardonic wit, platoon is modern Oscar wilde, and mauler is nerd rage, I'm not sure what you'd be categorised as, but I'm enjoying your content. Subscribed. Thank you sir!
I laughed so much watching this video, that my son thought there was something wrong with me! Keep up the great work.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Characters in a story can only ever be as wise as the writers, but there are no limits to the bottomless pit of stupidity.
So that puts a real hard cap on the characters' opportunity for behaving logically.
0:32 I have no words..... absolutely brilliant drop in... "Hoo"
Great video. 0:31 But someone needs to explain to me what's going on behind that clip of the dude having his fourth Four Loko!
😂😂
I'm glad to be able to catch on point synopsis like these all over, it's going to save me a lot of grief and time not having to waste it plowing through season 2. I'll be genuinely flabbergasted if this trash heap gets a season 3. The only reason we're suffering a second season is the awful decision to invest all in like they did with the movies.
Funny thing is, they didn't even know if they were going to get all three movies filmed. They had planned for it, sure. But what they couldn't plan for was public reception to the first one. It was a massive gamble.
I'm not looking forward to season 2 because I'm interested in watching the actual show but I'm definitely gonna watch all the funny RUclipsrs commentaries breaking down how Amazon craps all over our beloved Tolkien. These videos are absolutely better than watching the show itself
Wha...? After the way that Season 1 has gotten raked over the coals there's going to be a Season 2?
Just give me half hours of Elrond and Durin bickering and being shouted at by Disa. There’s a show, right there.