Hello.I just buy this product and i hane two questions.Firts how i can connect the temperature sensor and second grom user manual miss some pages from greek and english....
HI, Thank you for choosing CTEK! That depends what type of battery that is mounted in the vehicle. If it is an AGM or GEL (should be a marking) Do NOT use RECOND, If it says MF, Ca/Ca, WET it is a good solution to choose RECOND once or twice a year. I hope this helps. Best regards CTEK Support
hello I am using a msx 10, in my campervan, (two agm 90amph batteries) I would like to move the charger approx. 6 ft away from the batteries, IE: extending the cables to the battery from charger) will this have a detrimental affect on the charger or batteries, your advice would be appreciated
HI Wendy, Sorry for a late reply. Christmas is nice, but prolong answering times. If you prolong the cable between the battery and the charger will lower the voltage and risk undercharge the battery. The MXS 10 is made to give the correct voltage at the clamps, if you prolong the cable there will be a voltage drop. This drop will prolong the charge time and will also, as mentioned, risk undercharge the battery. if you have a possibility to exchange on the AC side, that would be better, or look at the M25 or M15 which are a bit stronger but more important, have a 5m lead between the battery and the charger. I hope this will help you. Best regards CTEK Support
Hello, I have been adised to remove the battery completely from the car when using the RECOND mode as it is passing higher voltage upto 15.8v. I have an 1999 Nissan Almera GTI and also a 1999 Mercedes C Class and would like to know if it is safe to use the RECOND mode with all the terminals connected. Thanks
Hello, As long as you have a WET or Ca/Ca battery, RECOND mode is safe to use with the battery still in the car, once a year to maximise lifetime and capacity.
I have two 90 amp AGM batteries, fitted to my campervan, I wish to add a 240 volt charging system, would this item be suitable, also if set to AGM mode, and 240 voltage power removed, does this charger stay set to the AGM setting, or do I need to reset each time I apply mains power to the MSX 10
Hi. The MXS 10 is recommended for batteries up to 300Ah. So it will work well. If you have consumers using close to the 10A the charger is giving, it is a good idea to choose a bigger charger. If you consume less or not all the time - the MXS 10 will be a good choice. If there is a power drop and the charger stop charging, it will start up in the same mode (for ex AGM) when power gets back. It will go through all charge steps again to find the correct state of charge of the battery. Good Luck. Best regards CTEK Support
Hi, AGMs do not suffer from acid stratification - so there are no really need to use RECOND on an AGM - however it will not harm the AGM battery. Best regards CTEK Support
Hi, Depending on how fast you want to charge - you need to choose amparage, MXS 10 charges with 10 Amps and is faster than MXS 5.0 which charges with 5Amps and so on. Then you need to decide if you want the different charge posibilities that the MODE button will give you, If you want a lot of choices choose a MXS charger. If you want a "connect and forgett" charger, The Start Stop or Time to Go charger is a better choice. No matter of what charger you choose - it will take good care of your battery. The best charge - is the one that is done!. If you want more information please contact info@ctek.com Best regards CTEK Support
Hi, I recommend you to look into the CS FREE, and adaptive booster that will get your vehicle started in 15 minutes, and it can be used as a regular charger as well - from mains, from solar or from another battery! That is what we call Smart!! Best regards CTEK Support
Is the temp sensor supposed to work during Supply Mode while trickle charging with the MXS 10? My temp sensor does not light during Supply Mode, but is lit in all other Modes. Does the sensor kick in only when required during Supply Mode? Thanks
@@CTEKBatteryChargers Hi, thanks for the prompt reply. Can you expand on the reasons why the temp sensor is inactive in Supply Mode please so I can get a wider understanding of the unit and its capabilities which I’m really encouraged by. Thanks.
@@ravjagdev2271 Hi again, SUPPLY is used for powering up different devices when battery is not available or when you need a constant voltage. In those situations a steady voltage is more important than that a temperature compensated voltage. Best regards CTEK Suppot
Hi, Yes you can charge all types of lead acid batteries with the MXS 10. EFBs as well. Use NORMAL or AGM it will work fine with both settings. What differs is the time it will take to fully charge, it will take some few minutes longer with the NORMAL setting, Best regards CTEK Support
Good Morning, the tutorial with the modes are on it's way. But if you send your question to info@ctek.com and we will give you a longer explanation. best regards CTEK Support
Hi, Definitely tje "normal mode"! SUPPLY is more if you have a big (max 5A) load applied to the battery constantly but will not have the correct voltage or charge steps required to fully charge - and keep fully charged - the battery. Good Luck. Best regards CTEK Support
Hi, RECOND is increasing voltage in order to mix the acid and the water in the electrolyte. This will give the battery a better possibility to keep the voltage better and gain lifetime for the battery. Only to be used on wet lead acid batteries (meening NOT AGM or GEL!) Best regards CTEK Support
@@CTEKBatteryChargers I have just bought an MXS 10 - I am somewhat baffled why it is that nowhere in the accompanying user manual does it warn that RECOND mode is not to be used on AGM or GEL batteries!
@@bearandlou Hi, you are right. We mention what battery types that benefit from RECOND, (WET batteries) and not what types that shouldn't be RECONDed. I will inform the manual department and perhaps there will be a change. Best regards CTEK Support
Hi. Sorry, but I have one more question. Recently, the rubber protector of the heat sensor came off my ctek mxs 10 charger and unfortunately it is unusable. I asked the seller where I bought the charger, but unfortunately he couldn't help, they don't have such a separate seller. I would like to ask where you can buy one, can you help? Thanks.
Hi. The product you will need is : www.ctek.com/au/battery-chargers-12v-24v/ntc-cable-1-7m. If I remember correctly, you live in Australia, I do unfortunately not know where to find it. I think the best way is on line. I hope this will help. Best regards CTEK Support
Hi. Thanks for the help, but I meant this rubber protector, not the sensor cable. Unfortunately, I can't find it anywhere. www.dropbox.com/s/6az3q44nzzoj0hq/rubber-cover.jpg?dl=0
@@krisztianivanics369 Hi. That cover is not a common spare part. I recommend you to send an email to support@ctek.com with your request and we can help you better. Best regards CTEK Support
Hi, thank you, but a few days ago a nice girl from the Czech Republic was able to get it for me and sent it by post, which I luckily received. It was very nice. Thanks for your help anyway.
working with 3 led on then for no reason all went out . no power light or anything. plug fuse is ok. what could be the problem? battery was showing 12.5v
Hi, if there is no leds working at all - there is a big risk that the charger is broken. Try on another battery or/and from other mains to make sure it doesn't work. If it is still within warranty time - please take the charger and a proof of purchase back to your dealer for help. Best regards CTEK Support
How and when can I use "pulse charging", Number 8 in a scale?! Although my battery is connected for 2 days on a charger, number 8 dosen't light up.... Thank You!
Hi my battery charger has been on all night and not got to step 8, should I be concerned or does it take longer. Or is it the case when it's reached 7 it's full and good to use?
@@CTEKBatteryChargers Thanks for your fast reply, so am I able to put this battery back in my truck and is it now fully charged? I don't quite understand that it will still be active for 10 days? Active whilst it's on my truck? Sorry if I sound dim, just trying to work it all out.
@@statyisgod It is better to ask and be sure! First - you don't need to disconnect the battery from the truck whilst charging, the charger is electronic safe and will not harm anything. The reason for step 8, is to have a safe long term maintenance without any risk drying out the electrolyte within the battery. I hope this helps. Best regards CTEK Support
@@CTEKBatteryChargers Hi yes that helps, glad it's all sorted. Temperature was really low here so thought I'd take the battery out and charge it inside. Thanks again for your help. Awesome charger by the way, things have come along way. Did I see in another comment there's some kind of quick charge option, like jump pack style?
@@statyisgod Hi. Thank you for your kind words. Charging inside when it is cold is absolutely a good idea! There is no speed charge option on the MXS 10, but as soon as light 4 is lit, you will have power enough to start your car. Using AGM mode will give a bit higher voltage and that will help when doing a start attempt. Don't disconnect the charger before you start the car, the voltage from the charger is a good help. I would do a start attempt after about 20 minutes - even if the 4th light is not lit - maybe it will not work, but probably.. If not - you have to wait a bit longer. A stronger charger will do this faster (PRO25S) . Good Luck. Best regards CTEK Support
HI, Yes. That is a good idea that will give the battery a bit of extra power during start attempt. Just remember to disconnect before driving away! Best regards CTEK Support
Hi. The MXS 10 do not have a Lithium charge mode. But if you choose the PRO25 you can charge LiFePO4 batteries as well as common lead acid batteries. Best regards CTEK Support
Hi, As soon as the green light is lit, the battery is 100% fully charged. It will stay in step 7 for 10 days (FLOAT maintenance, to keep the battery at 100% state of charge. Step 8( PULSE) is a long term maintenance that makes it possible to have the charger connected for months and months if needed. Please note that you can disconnect the charger at any time even if the battery is not fully charged, just remember to keep charging when you have the possibility again. Best regards CTEK Support
Hi, Thank you for your message! 😊 The MXS 10 has an agm mode you can use with agm batteries. I would advise you to check with the battery manufacturer first for there recommended charge voltage. If you have further questions, please contact us at support.ctek.com/ or email us at support@ctek.com and we will help you further. Have a great day! ☺
Hi, that was bad news. I don't know what models you have, but most of our consumer chargers have a 5 year warranty, hopefully the chargers are within the warranty time and you can have them exchanged. Best regards CTEK Support
Hi, if you have the charger connected to the battery and it reaches step 7 - then it is charging the battery. If the battery still doesn't work as it should - I recommend you to get the battery tested as it might be in the end of it's life. You are welcome to write to info@ctekcom with more information to get a better answer. Best regards CTEK Support
@@CTEKBatteryChargers I think it's more likely to be a fault with the starter motor or associated components. If the engine turns over then it's not the starter motor. Thus Norman, would have to investigate fuelling / ignition and associated control systems.
Hi Ctek. I'm a little disappointed. Now I had to replace an Exide 100Ah battery in my car after 5 years. I am disappointed because I used the Ctek mxs 10 charger for maintenance from the beginning. And he didn't even help her. How can this be? Yet Ctek promises that you can even double the life of your batteries with its chargers. But they say it's all fake. An unmaintained battery also lasts 5 years. My car’s generator is okay, so I don’t even understand why the battery broke down so quickly. Then it could also be that the battery I bought was factory defective and that’s why it broke down so quickly. The original battery in the car went 10 years. (BMW) Oh, I want to ask you something else. Does the EFB battery need to be charged in normal or AGM mode in Ctek? Thanks.
Hi. This mean that the charger can not find the battery. Due to poor contact or due to too low voltage in the battery. The MXS 10 need 2V from the battery to start. This limit makes the charger spark free and reverse polarity protected. If you have a good contact and the charger don't start. Change to SUPPLY mode for a minute and try with NORMAL again. That would do the trick. Good Luck. Best regards CTEK Support
Уважаемый господин. Спасибо за ваше мнение. Я считаю, что у нас очень разные представления о том, как следует заряжать аккумуляторы. Надеюсь, вы найдете зарядное устройство, отвечающее вашим требованиям. С наилучшими пожеланиями CTEK Support
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Hello.I just buy this product and i hane two questions.Firts how i can connect the temperature sensor and second grom user manual miss some pages from greek and english....
Hi CTEK….I don’t use my car much. I have purchased the MXS10 to keep my battery topped up. Do I use the recond mode or normal mode to do this. Thanks
HI, Thank you for choosing CTEK! That depends what type of battery that is mounted in the vehicle. If it is an AGM or GEL (should be a marking) Do NOT use RECOND, If it says MF, Ca/Ca, WET it is a good solution to choose RECOND once or twice a year. I hope this helps. Best regards CTEK Support
hello
I am using a msx 10, in my campervan, (two agm 90amph batteries) I would like to move the charger approx. 6 ft away from the batteries, IE: extending the cables to the battery from charger) will this have a detrimental affect on the charger or batteries, your advice would be appreciated
HI Wendy, Sorry for a late reply. Christmas is nice, but prolong answering times. If you prolong the cable between the battery and the charger will lower the voltage and risk undercharge the battery. The MXS 10 is made to give the correct voltage at the clamps, if you prolong the cable there will be a voltage drop. This drop will prolong the charge time and will also, as mentioned, risk undercharge the battery. if you have a possibility to exchange on the AC side, that would be better, or look at the M25 or M15 which are a bit stronger but more important, have a 5m lead between the battery and the charger. I hope this will help you. Best regards CTEK Support
Hello, I have been adised to remove the battery completely from the car when using the RECOND mode as it is passing higher voltage upto 15.8v. I have an 1999 Nissan Almera GTI and also a 1999 Mercedes C Class and would like to know if it is safe to use the RECOND mode with all the terminals connected.
Thanks
Hello,
As long as you have a WET or Ca/Ca battery, RECOND mode is safe to use with the battery still in the car, once a year to maximise lifetime and capacity.
I have two 90 amp AGM batteries, fitted to my campervan, I wish to add a 240 volt charging system, would this item be suitable, also if set to AGM mode, and 240 voltage power removed, does this charger stay set to the AGM setting, or do I need to reset each time I apply mains power to the MSX 10
Hi. The MXS 10 is recommended for batteries up to 300Ah. So it will work well. If you have consumers using close to the 10A the charger is giving, it is a good idea to choose a bigger charger. If you consume less or not all the time - the MXS 10 will be a good choice. If there is a power drop and the charger stop charging, it will start up in the same mode (for ex AGM) when power gets back. It will go through all charge steps again to find the correct state of charge of the battery. Good Luck. Best regards CTEK Support
Can I use the recond mode on the mxs 10 for an Optima AGM battery?
Hi, AGMs do not suffer from acid stratification - so there are no really need to use RECOND on an AGM - however it will not harm the AGM battery. Best regards CTEK Support
Hi CTEK, I just bought a 110 ah Gel Battery will this charger work to charge it up.
Hi, Yes, the MXS 10 can charge a 110Ah GEL battery. Best regards CTEK support
Hi you can tell me which one is the best for my car sl500 2004
Hi, Depending on how fast you want to charge - you need to choose amparage, MXS 10 charges with 10 Amps and is faster than MXS 5.0 which charges with 5Amps and so on. Then you need to decide if you want the different charge posibilities that the MODE button will give you, If you want a lot of choices choose a MXS charger. If you want a "connect and forgett" charger, The Start Stop or Time to Go charger is a better choice. No matter of what charger you choose - it will take good care of your battery. The best charge - is the one that is done!. If you want more information please contact info@ctek.com Best regards CTEK Support
I wish you guys have jump packs or research into jump packs
Hi, I recommend you to look into the CS FREE, and adaptive booster that will get your vehicle started in 15 minutes, and it can be used as a regular charger as well - from mains, from solar or from another battery! That is what we call Smart!! Best regards CTEK Support
Is the temp sensor supposed to work during Supply Mode while trickle charging with the MXS 10? My temp sensor does not light during Supply Mode, but is lit in all other Modes. Does the sensor kick in only when required during Supply Mode? Thanks
Hi. The temp sensor is not active in SUPPLY mode. Best regards CTEK Support
@@CTEKBatteryChargers Hi, thanks for the prompt reply. Can you expand on the reasons why the temp sensor is inactive in Supply Mode please so I can get a wider understanding of the unit and its capabilities which I’m really encouraged by. Thanks.
@@ravjagdev2271 Hi again, SUPPLY is used for powering up different devices when battery is not available or when you need a constant voltage. In those situations a steady voltage is more important than that a temperature compensated voltage. Best regards CTEK Suppot
Can you charge EFB batteries with this charger, also what mode if you can?
Hi, Yes you can charge all types of lead acid batteries with the MXS 10. EFBs as well. Use NORMAL or AGM it will work fine with both settings. What differs is the time it will take to fully charge, it will take some few minutes longer with the NORMAL setting, Best regards CTEK Support
Where do you place the temperature sensor?
Hi. Place the temperature sensor close to the battery. It can be fitted in the battery clamp or taped to the battery. Best regards CTEK Support
When do we get to the promised explanation of the modes?
Good Morning, the tutorial with the modes are on it's way. But if you send your question to info@ctek.com and we will give you a longer explanation. best regards CTEK Support
Which is better, "normal Mode" or Supply Mode? Which one should i use if i just want to get the battery level to 100% let's say once a week?
Hi, Definitely tje "normal mode"! SUPPLY is more if you have a big (max 5A) load applied to the battery constantly but will not have the correct voltage or charge steps required to fully charge - and keep fully charged - the battery. Good Luck. Best regards CTEK Support
@@CTEKBatteryChargers Thank you for your reply!
@@Ppetsku96 You are welcome
I have Ctek 5.0, however I don’t know what is “recon” exactly doing!!! a lot op people say it makes the battery new again. Is that correct?
Hi, RECOND is increasing voltage in order to mix the acid and the water in the electrolyte. This will give the battery a better possibility to keep the voltage better and gain lifetime for the battery. Only to be used on wet lead acid batteries (meening NOT AGM or GEL!) Best regards CTEK Support
@@CTEKBatteryChargers I have just bought an MXS 10 - I am somewhat baffled why it is that nowhere in the accompanying user manual does it warn that RECOND mode is not to be used on AGM or GEL batteries!
@@bearandlou Hi, you are right. We mention what battery types that benefit from RECOND, (WET batteries) and not what types that shouldn't be RECONDed. I will inform the manual department and perhaps there will be a change. Best regards CTEK Support
Hi.
Sorry, but I have one more question. Recently, the rubber protector of the heat sensor came off my ctek mxs 10 charger and unfortunately it is unusable. I asked the seller where I bought the charger, but unfortunately he couldn't help, they don't have such a separate seller.
I would like to ask where you can buy one, can you help?
Thanks.
Hi. The product you will need is : www.ctek.com/au/battery-chargers-12v-24v/ntc-cable-1-7m. If I remember correctly, you live in Australia, I do unfortunately not know where to find it. I think the best way is on line. I hope this will help. Best regards CTEK Support
Hi.
Thanks for the help, but I meant this rubber protector, not the sensor cable. Unfortunately, I can't find it anywhere.
www.dropbox.com/s/6az3q44nzzoj0hq/rubber-cover.jpg?dl=0
@@krisztianivanics369 Hi. That cover is not a common spare part. I recommend you to send an email to support@ctek.com with your request and we can help you better. Best regards CTEK Support
Hi, thank you, but a few days ago a nice girl from the Czech Republic was able to get it for me and sent it by post, which I luckily received. It was very nice. Thanks for your help anyway.
working with 3 led on then for no reason all went out . no power light or anything. plug fuse is ok. what could be the problem? battery was showing 12.5v
Hi, if there is no leds working at all - there is a big risk that the charger is broken. Try on another battery or/and from other mains to make sure it doesn't work. If it is still within warranty time - please take the charger and a proof of purchase back to your dealer for help. Best regards CTEK Support
How and when can I use "pulse charging", Number 8 in a scale?! Although my battery is connected for 2 days on a charger, number 8 dosen't light up.... Thank You!
Hi!
Step 8 will be started after you've kept the charger connected (and the battery fully charged) for 10 days.
Best regards,
CTEK Support
Hi my battery charger has been on all night and not got to step 8, should I be concerned or does it take longer. Or is it the case when it's reached 7 it's full and good to use?
HI. Everything is as it should. Step 7 will be active for 10 days before step 8 starts. Best regards CTEK Support
@@CTEKBatteryChargers Thanks for your fast reply, so am I able to put this battery back in my truck and is it now fully charged? I don't quite understand that it will still be active for 10 days? Active whilst it's on my truck? Sorry if I sound dim, just trying to work it all out.
@@statyisgod It is better to ask and be sure! First - you don't need to disconnect the battery from the truck whilst charging, the charger is electronic safe and will not harm anything. The reason for step 8, is to have a safe long term maintenance without any risk drying out the electrolyte within the battery. I hope this helps. Best regards CTEK Support
@@CTEKBatteryChargers Hi yes that helps, glad it's all sorted. Temperature was really low here so thought I'd take the battery out and charge it inside. Thanks again for your help. Awesome charger by the way, things have come along way.
Did I see in another comment there's some kind of quick charge option, like jump pack style?
@@statyisgod Hi. Thank you for your kind words. Charging inside when it is cold is absolutely a good idea! There is no speed charge option on the MXS 10, but as soon as light 4 is lit, you will have power enough to start your car. Using AGM mode will give a bit higher voltage and that will help when doing a start attempt. Don't disconnect the charger before you start the car, the voltage from the charger is a good help. I would do a start attempt after about 20 minutes - even if the 4th light is not lit - maybe it will not work, but probably.. If not - you have to wait a bit longer. A stronger charger will do this faster (PRO25S) . Good Luck. Best regards CTEK Support
Can i start the engine, even the ctek charger is still clamp in the battery?
HI, Yes. That is a good idea that will give the battery a bit of extra power during start attempt. Just remember to disconnect before driving away! Best regards CTEK Support
Hi can this charger be used to charge up car Li-ion batteries?
Hi. The MXS 10 do not have a Lithium charge mode. But if you choose the PRO25 you can charge LiFePO4 batteries as well as common lead acid batteries. Best regards CTEK Support
@@CTEKBatteryChargers Thanks.
I charge my battery for about 18hrs in normal mode and i observe that it stay for a long time in stage 7.Is this a normal?Do i need to wait more time?
Hi, As soon as the green light is lit, the battery is 100% fully charged. It will stay in step 7 for 10 days (FLOAT maintenance, to keep the battery at 100% state of charge. Step 8( PULSE) is a long term maintenance that makes it possible to have the charger connected for months and months if needed. Please note that you can disconnect the charger at any time even if the battery is not fully charged, just remember to keep charging when you have the possibility again. Best regards CTEK Support
I wouldn’t say that’s all. What about agm batteries?
Hi,
Thank you for your message! 😊
The MXS 10 has an agm mode you can use with agm batteries. I would advise you to check with the battery manufacturer first for there recommended charge voltage.
If you have further questions, please contact us at support.ctek.com/ or email us at support@ctek.com and we will help you further.
Have a great day! ☺
I have 5 of these chargers and the mode button has stopped working on all of them.
Hi, that was bad news. I don't know what models you have, but most of our consumer chargers have a 5 year warranty, hopefully the chargers are within the warranty time and you can have them exchanged. Best regards CTEK Support
Hi I charge my car battery till 7 using normal mode. but still can't start the car. May I know what is the problem?
Hi, if you have the charger connected to the battery and it reaches step 7 - then it is charging the battery. If the battery still doesn't work as it should - I recommend you to get the battery tested as it might be in the end of it's life. You are welcome to write to info@ctekcom with more information to get a better answer. Best regards CTEK Support
@@CTEKBatteryChargers I think it's more likely to be a fault with the starter motor or associated components. If the engine turns over then it's not the starter motor. Thus Norman, would have to investigate fuelling / ignition and associated control systems.
Hi Ctek.
I'm a little disappointed. Now I had to replace an Exide 100Ah battery in my car after 5 years. I am disappointed because I used the Ctek mxs 10 charger for maintenance from the beginning. And he didn't even help her. How can this be? Yet Ctek promises that you can even double the life of your batteries with its chargers. But they say it's all fake. An unmaintained battery also lasts 5 years. My car’s generator is okay, so I don’t even understand why the battery broke down so quickly.
Then it could also be that the battery I bought was factory defective and that’s why it broke down so quickly. The original battery in the car went 10 years. (BMW)
Oh, I want to ask you something else.
Does the EFB battery need to be charged in normal or AGM mode in Ctek?
Thanks.
Hi. Sorry if you are dissapointed.EFB batteries can be charged with bot CAR and AGM, but we recommend CAR mode. Best regards CTEK Support
Ok, thanks 👍
The green mode light begins to blink after few minutes in normal mode - why is that thnx
Hi. This mean that the charger can not find the battery. Due to poor contact or due to too low voltage in the battery. The MXS 10 need 2V from the battery to start. This limit makes the charger spark free and reverse polarity protected. If you have a good contact and the charger don't start. Change to SUPPLY mode for a minute and try with NORMAL again. That would do the trick. Good Luck. Best regards CTEK Support
It worked so far ✅💪🏾✅ thank you for the answer ✅🇩🇰✅
Это 💩 горит через одно! Каждая вторая зарядка с 10А сгорает до 2 лет эксплуатации. Самая неудачная модель на дешёвых китайских комплектующих.
Уважаемый господин. Спасибо за ваше мнение. Я считаю, что у нас очень разные представления о том, как следует заряжать аккумуляторы. Надеюсь, вы найдете зарядное устройство, отвечающее вашим требованиям. С наилучшими пожеланиями CTEK Support