Man, had Suleiman not been so fond of him and blinded by their friendship, Ibrahim would have lost his head right then and there. In fact, cheating on Hatice should have been the end of his career then.
True history suggests they slept together sexually before he fell for Hurrem. Ibrahim and Hurrem, the sultans two slaves. It was an interesting thing to learn and helped explain why he forgave him so often. Turkish history had a third gender role for boys going through puberty before growing facial hair, so it wasn't uncommon for homosexual relationships to occur back in ancient Turkey.
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suleiman gave him alot of power so did many rulers they gave more power to their head admirals or dukes and then they rebelled against them its hard to figure out the betrayer. but in suleiman's case he could have just end him when he betrayed hatice and when he wore his armor thats too much suleiman considered him alot.
In this depiction of Suleiman's era when hurrem went to Ibrahim's grave she said " You and I both were close to the sun (Sultan), I knew my limits and took warmth and you exceeded your limits and ended up in ashes" Very deep true lines...!
@@lepakshijaideep222 yes, if that real life is monarchial family real life, its a drama based on real events from 1520-1566 on Sultan Suleiman ...so its uniqueness is not common.
@@bakhtazeem4992 Indeed, the Ottoman throne was the literal game of thrones, in Europe the eldest son inherited the throne, in the Ottoman Empire the most cunning and strongest to become the favorite who was the closest governor was often the one who inherited the throne, albeit if he lived long enough to do so.
21:02 Suleiman warned lbrahim so many times to stop being arrogant, but apparently Mr. “General Sultan” lbrahim forgot his place the day he became Grand Vizier. Yazzekkk
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The judge said that Iskender Celebi's wealth would go to the Imperial treasury. However, it was later revealed that it ended up in Ibrahim's hands. Ibrahim was corrupt himself.
There's an old saying: Pride comes before a downfall. That's Ibrahim. If he betrayed the Sultan's sister, he can also betray the Sultan. How could anyone like Ibrahim? he is a terrible human being.
He wanted to see them only. You wouldn't do the same? Only to see them. What is it a single visit? He just saw them once when he was a child, then years ago, when he turned into a brave man, because he was brave (he fought a tyrant named "Sultan Suleiman", no one of us would never been able to do the same, we only say that we were able to fight the evil, just like Syleiman and Hurrem, also their supporters, but we are only good for saying pretty words, just for pretending that we are brave and clever and conscious. But not even one of us could do this thing Ibrahim did). As for this thing you said before "likely that he was Syleiman's friend", I assure you that Ibrahim shouldn't have a friend like Syleiman. He should be dead for the good sake of everyone and everything, not Ibrahim. He sacrificed his life to protect him from everything and everybody (even from his father, Selim I) and he killed him, because of his jealousy. Because he knew that Ibrahim was much more good and much more human than him, he had many supporters (except from some stupid and selfish people, who wanted his downfall, forgetting that killing him, this would the end of their precious Prince, Mustafa was their next Sultan. So they condemned Ibrahim and laugh at him when they learnt his injust execution, then they cry over Mustafa's execution. They were stupid, they should be at Ibrahim's side, because he was Mustafa's mentor and uncle. P.S: Ibrahim never deceived Syleiman, he asked him if he could see them, if he could see his family and Syleiman said that once they won campaign of Rhodes, he would sent him to see them. When he saw them, he returned to the palace. Or you say that his fault was to fall in love with Hatice. I have to say something to you my friend and this must be a lesson for all of us in this world; "in cases of heart and love, can't be hold and provoked. If you keep your heart shut, what you will achieve? Nothing. You will only be left alone forever and no one will be left with you, because the old ones (the parents and grandparents) leave this world and we must all find someone to be with us for the rest of our lives, before our end too". So you say that Ibrahim's fault is that he was in love with a woman, the sister of Syleiman, Hatice Sultana? So what if she was a Sultana? Only the common people are married? And only a few people are married and Ibrahim shouldn't? Why? Didn't he was a human?
Iskender is killed...yet Ibrahim is given another chance. hhhmmmmmmm. Later Sueliman realizes he killed a man here for no reason worth the price of death.
Ibrahim greed killed him This truth even hatice knew. Tat how greedy and arrogant ibrahim is. Hurrem just used to reveal his real face. Ibrahim never asked for forgiveness to hatice for his betrayal. But still i loved this character Ibrahim a lot in the whole series. Love from India
Really think that your Hurrem never was arrogant and greed? That her arrogance didn't kill her in the end? This was also Syleiman's end. Their arrogance ended them. Ibrahim if you remember, told once Syleiman never to give him power, but Syleiman was stupid. He let him the power in order to face all his problems concerning Syleiman's empire and then he killed him because he couldn't take back the power he gave him, because of his stupidity. Ibrahim warned Syleiman never give him titles, then Syleiman didn't take the titles from him and let him live, just like an old Vizier did that era then, to retire him, instead of killing him. With no power, all good would be, he preferred to let him with power. So where is Ibrahim's fault? As for Hurrem, do you think that she never wanted his death? Even if he was never Grand-Vizier, you really think that she wouldn't want his death anyways? Her arrogance was even worse than Syleiman's and Rustem's (because Rustem was a puppet at Hurrem's hands, as for Syleiman, he had already signed his downfall, since he was a Prince, the son of another tyrant Sultan, Selim I). P.S; Ibrahim never cheated on Hatice in real life. This woman here who interpretes Ibrahim's chick, Nigar Kalfa, wasn't a true person and we don't know if he had a chick and if he actually cheated Hatice in real life.
But in the end it wasn't even really Hurrem but the accumulation of things like this. Until he made Sultan outright paranoid of his ambition and Mustafa was pretty much the same.
I don't agree with that. Nobody, not even Hurrem, could have come in between them if ibrahim had behaved properly. Ibrahim dug his own grave by how he behaved, it wasn't hurrem who defeated him.
I'm surprised that no one commented about the final scene in this video where the spirit of Iskender Celebi appeared to Suleiman and the Sultan realized with certainty what he may have already intuited ...... that he had killed an innocent man due to the intrigues of Ibrahim.
"Whenever I turn around, I always find you in the same hole." Such immutable truth. The hole of his inordinate ambition and arrogance. For those who like to blame Hurrem solely for the fate that befell Ibrahim Pasha, it's important to examine his series of missteps and not try to deify him like Hatice did after he died.
@@joansutton Yeah. She tried to warn Sulaiman, like you said. Unfortunately, Sulaiman was so hung up on his gratitude to Ibrahim Pasha for saving his life when they were young that he was willing to overlook an awful lot. This was partially why Ibrahim, in the series version, was able to dare speak to Hurrem the way he did even after she became Sulaiman's wedded wife.
This should be a lesson for Syleiman too. Because Ibrahim was the Grand-Vizier, but Syleiman had even more power than Ibrahim, he was the Sultan and he always wanted always more and more and more and more. So this is the one who should be careful. Because he was the one who wanted all these to happen; he wanted Ibrahim as his companion, as friends I mean, then he appointment him titles, he gave him the power, the time that Ibrahim told him not to give him anything, neither titles nor power, but Syleiman's couldn't listen and keep always saying that he will appoint him as Serasker, Beylerbey, Grand-Vizier, etc. So this wasn't Ibrahim's fault, was Syleiman's. Because Ibrahim (if you remember) wanted only to be a friend to Syleiman, wanted only his friendship and to protect him and the family for every danger, even from Syleiman himself. Means that Ibrahim knew that Syleiman and Hurrem (including Rustem and Sumbul), were the enemies of Syleiman and the state itself. So that's why he betrayed Syleiman and if you want to know my opinion, he did well. When someone does wrong, you should tell him either by using the good terms (logic and good manners) or by using the bad terms (by shouting at his face, so he understands more carefully and more effectively). Even me I tell my father to be careful about Covid-19, in order of not being infected by this pandemic illness. It doesn't matter if this person who stands in front of you are your father or the Sultan, the fact is that if someone or both of them are mistaken, you are obliged to correct them. And the fact that he is a father or the Sultan, it doesn't mean that they are perfect and they are correct always or that I will not tell them that they are incorrect (or Ibrahim in here).
also gotta add, not enough is said about the prime faces that Rustem was making. Ibrahim's stupid little threat and the faint smirk along with the seething rage was a prime moment. Also the look on his face at the end while Suleiman was going off lol.
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Suleiman is pulling a bayazid move on Tahmas 🤣 i miss sassy suleiman now i understand why he told Bayazid that he would've been the son who ressembled him the most if he wasn't so fiery
Sultan suleiman at the gates of Vienna in 1529 Suleiman: I'll eat my breakfast in the Palace of Vienna tomorrow Suleiman: (fails to break the resistance of Vienna the next morning) Reply comes from Vienna: your breakfast is getting cold These were some real life sassy exchanges between suleiman and the habsburgs during the siege of Vienna in 1529
@@SexhatClhxlhxyoxyl he's soliarwhy doesn't he declare it Infront of Suleiman then? Might as well become sultan Ibrahim I and so kosem sultans son Ibrahim II
@@ΔημΣΚ again Mahidevran can have a chance to become Valide Sultan because is mother of Şehzade Mustafa but he will never be Sultan 🤣🤣 maybe if she was woman and would give a son too to Suleiman he could but is not the case 😅😅😅 if he would say this in front of Suleiman he would lost head🥲
Grand Vizier went to Abrahim's head...then his greed and power took over...Sueliman gave him many chances to see his mistakes...but Abrahim took it as mere forgiveness. The hammer is about to fall
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I cried first time when i watched when they hang iskender chelebi and i cried now too.that man was good not greedy as ibrahim.but this mistake of ibrahim made suleiman finally see who is ibrahim no soul and no heart only empty statue ibrahim
Here we can see that Mustafa learned everything from Ibrahim, his justifications included. His shameless hope that the Sultan would always forgive him, as well.
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And who would warn Syleiman himself? Because he crossed the line and forgot that except a Sultan, he was a mortal man and he wasn't the God. There was a God bigger than himself. So he shouldn't be God, because this called arrogance and arrogance leads to transform to a deaf man and after this madness is not far from this situation. Then, comes the crazyness. He killed his friend, he killed his sister Hatice, then he killed his sons and many members of his family. Where was his conscience and justice? Didn't Syleiman perish himself in a hole of mud? He had already gone swalloded by this hole and he didn't know about this. Syleiman wasn't a judge, he judges all the others around himself and he never blames himself for nothing. He killed Iskender, however he finds it better to blame Ibrahim for his death. Iskender was the traitor, no matter what Syleiman, Hurrem, Rustem or Syleiman was saying about this, in order to prove the vice versa and blame Ibrahim for this death. Iskender signed his death with treason against Ibrahim and Syleiman, so his fate was singed by himself. Not blame Ibrahim.
What Suleiman did isn't arrogance it is called taking precautions for betrayal. Mustafa was bad but hurrem made Suleiman made Suleiman believe that he is
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After the execution of Ibrahim, Suleyman didn't conquer some significant territory,. Ibrahim was very capable, great military leader. Ibrahim would have been nothing without Suleiman, but Suleyman would have not have the same success without Ibrahim. They are saying that Suleyman have changed totally after the execution of Ibrahim, that he was never the same.
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Man enjoying hundred women who must be someone's sister got angry from a man who kept one woman because he felt he cheated his sister what double standards....
Alright, we as an audience all know that just as Ibrahim is guilty for his crimes, Iskender was guilty for his. He tried to foil the Empire's plans and waste valuable men just to ruin Ibrahim's reputation. The Ottoman Empire is better without men like that. And Suleiman's dream wasn't truthful, it was merely what he felt, especially after Rüstem's little cry act.
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I didn't know slavescan declare themselves sultans? Ibrahim now, mahidevran before declared herself valide sultan. It's understandable for a dynasty member like hurrem sultan to call herself valide sultan but since when theslavescall themselves like that?
Hurrem had been Valide Sultana no matter what. She didn't need of talking that she was Valide. She became Valide. But Mahidevran after Valide's death (Syleiman's mother), said that if Syleiman dies, then all the situation changes. She would be Valide Sultana to her son Prince Mustafa, because Mustafa would be the Sultan of the world and Hurrem's children would be dead (maybe Mehmet would be alive, all the others would be dead, Hurrem as well). This would be the situation. That's why Mahidevran called herself Valide Sultana. But things didn't go this way. However, these would happen, if Syleiman had died. And I don't know if Mahidevran would be Valide Sultana, but her son Mustafa would take the throne. But unfortunately his father lived, in order to see his sons and family been killed by himself. He killed them in so cowardly way. A good king, with even a shine of conscience, he should take care of these atrociousness (if he wanted it so much to do these) and immediately goes and punishes personally, with his bare hands his possible enemies, even if he is his son and friend and also his family. Syleiman was a coward and that's why God gave him pains and suffering from a very little age (from the age of 50) and through this suffering his death came to him.
The problem here is that Mahidevran CAN will be probably next Valide because if Mustafa become next Padişah she will be next Valide but Ibrahim don't have ANY things that can change his situation. Even if they were slave every mother of one Şehzade can think to be next Valide, in this case not just Hürrem Sultan. Even Tuhran was slave of Ibrahim's slave but after became Valide Sultan
@@dionysiossmaragdis2844 In the end not Mahidevran and not Hürrem became Valide 🤣🤣 but honestly I understand that someone can be traitor and hurt you but as Beyhan's show one time said to Suleiman "You could just put who betray you in the dangeon". One father that kill not one but TWO kids, well boh
So Iskender can't criticise or counsel Ibrahim because he is the Sultan's sole representative, but he is responsible is Ibrahim does wrong because he didn't stop him or counsel him? Edit: I just watched to the end of the video. So did Ibrahim just tell Rustem outright that if he sees anyone as a threat to his position he will commit crimes to frame them and kill them? He deserves what he gets in the end, and was a fool to think the Sultan did not see or understand him.
It said:show me your familly to tell you who you are.The son of fisherman was as a son of a fisherman reactet.Our generesion SWOW to every one what we do and what WE ARE going to DO.
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In history Ibrahim even before refered himself as sultan multiple times and Suleiman didn't mind. You see before hurrem used her "skills" in bed, Suleiman and Ibrahim were extremely close.
If you know Sultan sulaiman you know that he does not like people who break rules, in-fact monarchs rarely do, Ibrahim, moustapha and bayazid all fail to realize that they enjoy acting alone to their own detriment
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His choice of friendship make me question the man. Nashun could’ve had a happy and healthy life minus Ibrahim’s interference. How could he stay true to a snake.
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You’re all talking about fiction lol , Ibrahim in real life was faithful to Sully man. It was Solomon‘s wife using lies to convince him he was disposable, history says he never forgive himself and it was never well afterwards
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Suleiman..the puppet of ibrahim See those standing with pasha..yahya& nasuf effendi These 2 stand with mustafa too If suleiman knew iskender was innocent and it is a trap set by ibrahim...he could have stopped iskenders execution...yazzek😮
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Suleman should not have let Ibrahim get so bad. He should have stopped him long before. I’m glad Ibrahim was killed. He deserved it. It’s just a shame that they tried to make his death a sad tragedy like he was a decent person trying his best in a difficult. He wasn’t. He was a snake, drunk on power and trying to even overtake the Sultan himself. He was cruel and vicious and black at heart He cheated on Hatice, poor girl. He had his end coming for a long time. Imho
Ibrahim was a hero along with his qualitiesand imperfections, still a hero. Hes an inspiration for a middle class boy to grow to the seat next to throne. His story jas quite a resemblance with Prophet Yosuf's story but ofcourse he was an imperfect non Prophet man
Same ole story for all the major dynasties !!! Sultan Suleiman put too much trust in Ibrahim Pasha, in one particular consort...who gave him Saelim the drunkard prince !!! And killed his 2 capable sons... Mustafa and Bayezid.... All these events were arranged by the Most High !!! Nothing escapes the Jand of the Most High !!! Only the most humble and righteous kings survived....King Hezekiah of Judah....etc...
theres only one level and that is accepting the Blood of Jesus Christ dieing a death unforseen to forgive us of sins. It is sin that deteriates our lives. The Blood cleanses us and takes it away. We begin a new transformed life living on the word of God from thence forth.
Man, had Suleiman not been so fond of him and blinded by their friendship, Ibrahim would have lost his head right then and there. In fact, cheating on Hatice should have been the end of his career then.
True history suggests they slept together sexually before he fell for Hurrem. Ibrahim and Hurrem, the sultans two slaves. It was an interesting thing to learn and helped explain why he forgave him so often. Turkish history had a third gender role for boys going through puberty before growing facial hair, so it wasn't uncommon for homosexual relationships to occur back in ancient Turkey.
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suleiman gave him alot of power so did many rulers they gave more power to their head admirals or dukes and then they rebelled against them its hard to figure out the betrayer.
but in suleiman's case he could have just end him when he betrayed hatice and when he wore his armor thats too much suleiman considered him alot.
In this depiction of Suleiman's era when hurrem went to Ibrahim's grave she said " You and I both were close to the sun (Sultan), I knew my limits and took warmth and you exceeded your limits and ended up in ashes"
Very deep true lines...!
I think that quote applies to real life too, not just the show
@@lepakshijaideep222 yes, if that real life is monarchial family real life, its a drama based on real events from 1520-1566 on Sultan Suleiman ...so its uniqueness is not common.
@@bakhtazeem4992 Indeed, the Ottoman throne was the literal game of thrones, in Europe the eldest son inherited the throne, in the Ottoman Empire the most cunning and strongest to become the favorite who was the closest governor was often the one who inherited the throne, albeit if he lived long enough to do so.
21:02 Suleiman warned lbrahim so many times to stop being arrogant, but apparently Mr. “General Sultan” lbrahim forgot his place the day he became Grand Vizier. Yazzekkk
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It was when Syleiman made him Serasker, not since he became the Grand-Vizier.
The judge said that Iskender Celebi's wealth would go to the Imperial treasury. However, it was later revealed that it ended up in Ibrahim's hands. Ibrahim was corrupt himself.
along with conspiracies , this moment had a very big role in Ibrahim's death.
There's an old saying: Pride comes before a downfall. That's Ibrahim. If he betrayed the Sultan's sister, he can also betray the Sultan. How could anyone like Ibrahim? he is a terrible human being.
Suleiman is the worst human being as he and his family is ruling over people by force
Ego is the demon that feeds on us all. Ego leads to fatal errors. The wise always keep their Ego in check
Completely agree with your comment.
Ibrahim is lucky that he is Suleiman's friend. Otherwise, he would've died as soon as he deceived Suleiman and went to live with his family
He wanted to see them only. You wouldn't do the same? Only to see them. What is it a single visit? He just saw them once when he was a child, then years ago, when he turned into a brave man, because he was brave (he fought a tyrant named "Sultan Suleiman", no one of us would never been able to do the same, we only say that we were able to fight the evil, just like Syleiman and Hurrem, also their supporters, but we are only good for saying pretty words, just for pretending that we are brave and clever and conscious. But not even one of us could do this thing Ibrahim did). As for this thing you said before "likely that he was Syleiman's friend", I assure you that Ibrahim shouldn't have a friend like Syleiman. He should be dead for the good sake of everyone and everything, not Ibrahim. He sacrificed his life to protect him from everything and everybody (even from his father, Selim I) and he killed him, because of his jealousy. Because he knew that Ibrahim was much more good and much more human than him, he had many supporters (except from some stupid and selfish people, who wanted his downfall, forgetting that killing him, this would the end of their precious Prince, Mustafa was their next Sultan. So they condemned Ibrahim and laugh at him when they learnt his injust execution, then they cry over Mustafa's execution. They were stupid, they should be at Ibrahim's side, because he was Mustafa's mentor and uncle. P.S: Ibrahim never deceived Syleiman, he asked him if he could see them, if he could see his family and Syleiman said that once they won campaign of Rhodes, he would sent him to see them. When he saw them, he returned to the palace. Or you say that his fault was to fall in love with Hatice. I have to say something to you my friend and this must be a lesson for all of us in this world; "in cases of heart and love, can't be hold and provoked. If you keep your heart shut, what you will achieve? Nothing. You will only be left alone forever and no one will be left with you, because the old ones (the parents and grandparents) leave this world and we must all find someone to be with us for the rest of our lives, before our end too". So you say that Ibrahim's fault is that he was in love with a woman, the sister of Syleiman, Hatice Sultana? So what if she was a Sultana? Only the common people are married? And only a few people are married and Ibrahim shouldn't? Why? Didn't he was a human?
34:32 this pure hearted man spits facts. Although Ibrahim is my favourite character, I feel pity for him here.
Its so funny even in emergency they have to ask someone to bring water
Iskender is killed...yet Ibrahim is given another chance. hhhmmmmmmm. Later Sueliman realizes he killed a man here for no reason worth the price of death.
Ibrahim greed killed him
This truth even hatice knew. Tat how greedy and arrogant ibrahim is.
Hurrem just used to reveal his real face.
Ibrahim never asked for forgiveness to hatice for his betrayal.
But still i loved this character Ibrahim a lot in the whole series.
Love from India
Really think that your Hurrem never was arrogant and greed? That her arrogance didn't kill her in the end? This was also Syleiman's end. Their arrogance ended them. Ibrahim if you remember, told once Syleiman never to give him power, but Syleiman was stupid. He let him the power in order to face all his problems concerning Syleiman's empire and then he killed him because he couldn't take back the power he gave him, because of his stupidity. Ibrahim warned Syleiman never give him titles, then Syleiman didn't take the titles from him and let him live, just like an old Vizier did that era then, to retire him, instead of killing him. With no power, all good would be, he preferred to let him with power. So where is Ibrahim's fault? As for Hurrem, do you think that she never wanted his death? Even if he was never Grand-Vizier, you really think that she wouldn't want his death anyways? Her arrogance was even worse than Syleiman's and Rustem's (because Rustem was a puppet at Hurrem's hands, as for Syleiman, he had already signed his downfall, since he was a Prince, the son of another tyrant Sultan, Selim I). P.S; Ibrahim never cheated on Hatice in real life. This woman here who interpretes Ibrahim's chick, Nigar Kalfa, wasn't a true person and we don't know if he had a chick and if he actually cheated Hatice in real life.
When Ibrahim said that no one can come between he and the Sultan, Iskender Celebi should have said, " except Hurrem Sultana".
But in the end it wasn't even really Hurrem but the accumulation of things like this. Until he made Sultan outright paranoid of his ambition and Mustafa was pretty much the same.
I don't agree with that. Nobody, not even Hurrem, could have come in between them if ibrahim had behaved properly. Ibrahim dug his own grave by how he behaved, it wasn't hurrem who defeated him.
If this world and his people want to continue going like this, go on and keep walking.
...between HIM and...
I'm surprised that no one commented about the final scene in this video where the spirit of Iskender Celebi appeared to Suleiman and the Sultan realized with certainty what he may have already intuited ...... that he had killed an innocent man due to the intrigues of Ibrahim.
"Whenever I turn around, I always find you in the same hole." Such immutable truth. The hole of his inordinate ambition and arrogance. For those who like to blame Hurrem solely for the fate that befell Ibrahim Pasha, it's important to examine his series of missteps and not try to deify him like Hatice did after he died.
Hurrem was actually warning Suleiman about the danger of Ibrahim, and she was correct. But Ibrahim created his own death.
@@joansutton Yeah. She tried to warn Sulaiman, like you said. Unfortunately, Sulaiman was so hung up on his gratitude to Ibrahim Pasha for saving his life when they were young that he was willing to overlook an awful lot. This was partially why Ibrahim, in the series version, was able to dare speak to Hurrem the way he did even after she became Sulaiman's wedded wife.
This should be a lesson for Syleiman too. Because Ibrahim was the Grand-Vizier, but Syleiman had even more power than Ibrahim, he was the Sultan and he always wanted always more and more and more and more. So this is the one who should be careful. Because he was the one who wanted all these to happen; he wanted Ibrahim as his companion, as friends I mean, then he appointment him titles, he gave him the power, the time that Ibrahim told him not to give him anything, neither titles nor power, but Syleiman's couldn't listen and keep always saying that he will appoint him as Serasker, Beylerbey, Grand-Vizier, etc. So this wasn't Ibrahim's fault, was Syleiman's. Because Ibrahim (if you remember) wanted only to be a friend to Syleiman, wanted only his friendship and to protect him and the family for every danger, even from Syleiman himself. Means that Ibrahim knew that Syleiman and Hurrem (including Rustem and Sumbul), were the enemies of Syleiman and the state itself. So that's why he betrayed Syleiman and if you want to know my opinion, he did well. When someone does wrong, you should tell him either by using the good terms (logic and good manners) or by using the bad terms (by shouting at his face, so he understands more carefully and more effectively). Even me I tell my father to be careful about Covid-19, in order of not being infected by this pandemic illness. It doesn't matter if this person who stands in front of you are your father or the Sultan, the fact is that if someone or both of them are mistaken, you are obliged to correct them. And the fact that he is a father or the Sultan, it doesn't mean that they are perfect and they are correct always or that I will not tell them that they are incorrect (or Ibrahim in here).
I loved seeing Ibrahim getting humbled! 😂 glorious!
also gotta add, not enough is said about the prime faces that Rustem was making. Ibrahim's stupid little threat and the faint smirk along with the seething rage was a prime moment. Also the look on his face at the end while Suleiman was going off lol.
The fact only hurrem knew him,she even tells him “stop this pretending ibrahim,because only I and Allah know your true self” she was so right
lbrahim’s arrogance went 📈📈📈
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@@marissakass3044 stop
Suleiman is pulling a bayazid move on Tahmas 🤣 i miss sassy suleiman now i understand why he told Bayazid that he would've been the son who ressembled him the most if he wasn't so fiery
This i felt like Bayezid would have ruled like Suleiman if only he controlled his temper. At least show Bayezid
Sultan suleiman at the gates of Vienna in 1529
Suleiman: I'll eat my breakfast in the Palace of Vienna tomorrow
Suleiman: (fails to break the resistance of Vienna the next morning)
Reply comes from Vienna: your breakfast is getting cold
These were some real life sassy exchanges between suleiman and the habsburgs during the siege of Vienna in 1529
General Sultan? Wait what oh Ibrahim my boy what are you doing 🙃🙃
Slavecalls himself sultan, funny much. Hahahahaha
He and mahidevran dreamalot as it seems
@@ΔημΣΚ 😂😂
@@SexhatClhxlhxyoxyl he's soliarwhy doesn't he declare it Infront of Suleiman then?
Might as well become sultan Ibrahim I and so kosem sultans son Ibrahim II
@@ΔημΣΚ 8779p0
@@ΔημΣΚ again Mahidevran can have a chance to become Valide Sultan because is mother of Şehzade Mustafa but he will never be Sultan 🤣🤣 maybe if she was woman and would give a son too to Suleiman he could but is not the case 😅😅😅 if he would say this in front of Suleiman he would lost head🥲
Grand Vizier went to Abrahim's head...then his greed and power took over...Sueliman gave him many chances to see his mistakes...but Abrahim took it as mere forgiveness. The hammer is about to fall
21:01 Suleiman schooling lbrahim on loyalty but he never listened.
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@@aysenur6600 You should take medications, Shosho BOT!!!!
Wondering when Ibrahim Reply back about How about Firuze and Hurrem who Your legally wife hi Majesty...
I cried first time when i watched when they hang iskender chelebi and i cried now too.that man was good not greedy as ibrahim.but this mistake of ibrahim made suleiman finally see who is ibrahim no soul and no heart only empty statue ibrahim
Here we can see that Mustafa learned everything from Ibrahim, his justifications included. His shameless hope that the Sultan would always forgive him, as well.
lbrahim’s arrogance ended him finally. Suleiman warned him many times 21:30 but lbrahim never learned.
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And who would warn Syleiman himself? Because he crossed the line and forgot that except a Sultan, he was a mortal man and he wasn't the God. There was a God bigger than himself. So he shouldn't be God, because this called arrogance and arrogance leads to transform to a deaf man and after this madness is not far from this situation. Then, comes the crazyness. He killed his friend, he killed his sister Hatice, then he killed his sons and many members of his family. Where was his conscience and justice? Didn't Syleiman perish himself in a hole of mud? He had already gone swalloded by this hole and he didn't know about this. Syleiman wasn't a judge, he judges all the others around himself and he never blames himself for nothing. He killed Iskender, however he finds it better to blame Ibrahim for his death. Iskender was the traitor, no matter what Syleiman, Hurrem, Rustem or Syleiman was saying about this, in order to prove the vice versa and blame Ibrahim for this death. Iskender signed his death with treason against Ibrahim and Syleiman, so his fate was singed by himself. Not blame Ibrahim.
What Suleiman did isn't arrogance it is called taking precautions for betrayal. Mustafa was bad but hurrem made Suleiman made Suleiman believe that he is
Suleiman was a fool in this battle Ibrahim set him up good and iskender was killed
Suleiman and Tamhshap (hope to wrote well) are both royal and powerful. Ibrahim in this case look a clown between them🤣
lbrahim’s arrogance is out of all limits already.
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After the execution of Ibrahim, Suleyman didn't conquer some significant territory,. Ibrahim was very capable, great military leader. Ibrahim would have been nothing without Suleiman, but Suleyman would have not have the same success without Ibrahim. They are saying that Suleyman have changed totally after the execution of Ibrahim, that he was never the same.
i think the execution that burned him inside and changed him for good was mustafa's execution ,
Our dude lbrahim is a bit confused 😩 Someone needs to tell him he is not General Sultan🤭
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Can't wait for ep 82 to see Ibrahim being defeated by the mighty haseki sultan
I think this is when Rustem decided with power get rid of Ibrahim. Using same tactic
Man enjoying hundred women who must be someone's sister got angry from a man who kept one woman because he felt he cheated his sister what double standards....
Don't pass comment about what you don't know.I would like to suggest you to research then come back.
Exactly like BJP and Ram😂
He is no ordinary man
Jaki to odcinek i sezon prosze o pomoc
Alright, we as an audience all know that just as Ibrahim is guilty for his crimes, Iskender was guilty for his. He tried to foil the Empire's plans and waste valuable men just to ruin Ibrahim's reputation. The Ottoman Empire is better without men like that. And Suleiman's dream wasn't truthful, it was merely what he felt, especially after Rüstem's little cry act.
Ibrahim got quite a lecture from Süleyman, rightly deserved. He has nobody else to blame but himself. His reactin, his body language says it all.
lbrahim really believed he was Sultan General or what? 🤷🏻♀️🤣🤣🤣
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You mean in real life? Yes, he’s on record calling himself the second Sultan. It’s what got him killed.
❤ love you Ibrahim
I didn't know slavescan declare themselves sultans? Ibrahim now, mahidevran before declared herself valide sultan. It's understandable for a dynasty member like hurrem sultan to call herself valide sultan but since when theslavescall themselves like that?
Hurrem had been Valide Sultana no matter what. She didn't need of talking that she was Valide. She became Valide. But Mahidevran after Valide's death (Syleiman's mother), said that if Syleiman dies, then all the situation changes. She would be Valide Sultana to her son Prince Mustafa, because Mustafa would be the Sultan of the world and Hurrem's children would be dead (maybe Mehmet would be alive, all the others would be dead, Hurrem as well). This would be the situation. That's why Mahidevran called herself Valide Sultana. But things didn't go this way. However, these would happen, if Syleiman had died. And I don't know if Mahidevran would be Valide Sultana, but her son Mustafa would take the throne. But unfortunately his father lived, in order to see his sons and family been killed by himself. He killed them in so cowardly way. A good king, with even a shine of conscience, he should take care of these atrociousness (if he wanted it so much to do these) and immediately goes and punishes personally, with his bare hands his possible enemies, even if he is his son and friend and also his family. Syleiman was a coward and that's why God gave him pains and suffering from a very little age (from the age of 50) and through this suffering his death came to him.
The problem here is that Mahidevran CAN will be probably next Valide because if Mustafa become next Padişah she will be next Valide but Ibrahim don't have ANY things that can change his situation. Even if they were slave every mother of one Şehzade can think to be next Valide, in this case not just Hürrem Sultan. Even Tuhran was slave of Ibrahim's slave but after became Valide Sultan
@@dionysiossmaragdis2844 In the end not Mahidevran and not Hürrem became Valide 🤣🤣 but honestly I understand that someone can be traitor and hurt you but as Beyhan's show one time said to Suleiman "You could just put who betray you in the dangeon". One father that kill not one but TWO kids, well boh
@@ramn_bennington nope je couldnt put a prince into a dungeon. The rebellion would be break up sooner or later, rather sooner
@@nielubieinceli oh sorry I didn't know this ^^" but one father that do this to not one but two sons make me shivers. Can I be in wrong maybe
Now I think ibrahim deserved the fate he met with
Matrakchi also so loyal. I mean Ibrahim slept with his wife but it's okay
So Iskender can't criticise or counsel Ibrahim because he is the Sultan's sole representative, but he is responsible is Ibrahim does wrong because he didn't stop him or counsel him? Edit: I just watched to the end of the video. So did Ibrahim just tell Rustem outright that if he sees anyone as a threat to his position he will commit crimes to frame them and kill them? He deserves what he gets in the end, and was a fool to think the Sultan did not see or understand him.
Every enemy of Huram blame her from their down fall and suffering but the truth is they are the one who created their own destiny to fall.
The person will most probably betray you whom you trust the most so levels of trust should be kept in check and balance by everyone.
It said:show me your familly to tell you who you are.The son of fisherman was as a son of a fisherman reactet.Our generesion SWOW to every one what we do and what WE ARE going to DO.
Almost 50% in all Persian Ottoman wars, Persian won despite being third in quantity but Turkiye won't show that
Sulaiman's word to Tahmasp is really provoking 😅 he roasted Tahmasp with ellegance
General Sultan what? lbrahim lost his mind 😆😆😆😆😆
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Here the innocent Ibrahim calling himself sultan.🤣🤣
In history Ibrahim even before refered himself as sultan multiple times and Suleiman didn't mind. You see before hurrem used her "skills" in bed, Suleiman and Ibrahim were extremely close.
@@SafavidAfsharid3197 hurrem sultan was right all along
If you know Sultan sulaiman you know that he does not like people who break rules, in-fact monarchs rarely do, Ibrahim, moustapha and bayazid all fail to realize that they enjoy acting alone to their own detriment
3:48 Arkada asilan bebekler ne öyle ya tüm ciddiyetimi kaybettim😅 bari sahneyi okadar uzun tutmasalarmis
As Hürrem said to him " zayıfsin Ibrahim" turned out to be his curse.
I’m confused. Did suleiman appoint Ibrahim to the general sultan position?
Where is all this rain between Tabriz and Baghdad?
Wait what??? General sultan lbrahim? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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they didn't blinked once
NASSUN SUCH GOOD FRIEND , A GOOD MAN , ALWAYS NEXT TO HIM !!!!!!
His choice of friendship make me question the man. Nashun could’ve had a happy and healthy life minus Ibrahim’s interference. How could he stay true to a snake.
36:12 a new cancer on the rise
I read that Ibrahim was the lover of Suleman. That's why he got everything.
That Paranoid Suleiman
all that going on, 20m away and he never heard a thing, right?
Episode??
Ibrahim the only one who could face sulyman
Absolute courge
And isknder shalby deserved
He put the army in the hardest situation
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Don’t take me serious; I am JOKING, I havs personality disorder and TouretteSyndrome. I only want attentlon.
i was joking. lbrahim is liiar. He never spoke truth, always lied. He neverKnew friendship or loyallty. Karmaaa is coming for him.
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I know Hurrem was best sultana, best mother and she loved Sulyman the most. I am her biggest fan!
I was JOKING. I know lbrahim is liiar. He never spoke truth, always lied. He neverKnew friendship or loyallty. Karmaaa is coming for him.
No-one but ibrahim could face suly with the truth
Ibrahim honesty
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i was joking. lbrahim is liiar. He never spoke truth, always lied. He neverKnew friendship or loyallty. Karmaaa is coming for him.
He lied to suleiman on a consistent basis just like everyone else did. 🙄
@@Sky-tv4wb no lies were said here
@@marissakass3044 Hi Shossshooo Loocoooo! Liiiar lbrahim got his karmaaaaaaa
To add injury to the insult Suleiman sent the god awfully ugliest dress he could find 😂😂😂
w can we cut to the part where ibrahim gets killed so i can see his face then?
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But i forgive NO ONE , NEVER.From now on my heart will be cruel as a stone.Nobody made me any favor so the revenge is MINE.
You’re all talking about fiction lol , Ibrahim in real life was faithful to Sully man. It was Solomon‘s wife using lies to convince him he was disposable, history says he never forgive himself and it was never well afterwards
They mentioned Tunisia wow 😂
Shah Tahmaz was very smart and strong despit his age he was very young compared to Suliman
The same fate of isknder to Mehmet suly
🤣🤣
Ep 103
The karma ep
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Sick man of Istanbul
Suileman obey his soldiers 🤣🤣🤣
Suleiman..the puppet of ibrahim
See those standing with pasha..yahya& nasuf effendi
These 2 stand with mustafa too
If suleiman knew iskender was innocent and it is a trap set by ibrahim...he could have stopped iskenders execution...yazzek😮
General Sultan lbrahim😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Farhat pasha, ibrahim pasha and rustem pasha ,all betrayed suleiman...
The same thing as Justinian and Belisarius
What do you mean?
@@hurremsultanas the emperor-sultan dont trust he's best general
@@teradeiasode7662 OK. It ended differently though in both cases. Because Ibrahim was executed and Belisarius was restored to favour.
@@hurremsultanas Yes the ending is different but the rest of the story is similar. I think it is the nature of power.
@@terintiaflavius3349 True
Suleman should not have let Ibrahim get so bad. He should have stopped him long before.
I’m glad Ibrahim was killed. He deserved it. It’s just a shame that they tried to make his death a sad tragedy like he was a decent person trying his best in a difficult. He wasn’t. He was a snake, drunk on power and trying to even overtake the Sultan himself. He was cruel and vicious and black at heart
He cheated on Hatice, poor girl. He had his end coming for a long time.
Imho
ugh the sultan knew this was bs but allowed it to go on.
Ibrahim was a hero along with his qualitiesand imperfections, still a hero.
Hes an inspiration for a middle class boy to grow to the seat next to throne. His story jas quite a resemblance with Prophet Yosuf's story but ofcourse he was an imperfect non Prophet man
Arrogance?? Ur one to talk 🙄🙄
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Was Iskender innocent or really he commited treason ?
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Ibrahim was a let down.
Why all this killing why not just send them in excile
They can conspire with the enemy
Haha the dress😂
Same ole story for all the major dynasties !!! Sultan Suleiman put too much trust in Ibrahim Pasha, in one particular consort...who gave him Saelim the drunkard prince !!!
And killed his 2 capable sons...
Mustafa and Bayezid....
All these events were arranged by the Most High !!! Nothing escapes the Jand of the Most High !!!
Only the most humble and righteous kings survived....King Hezekiah of Judah....etc...
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Ibrahim's ego, jelousy and pettiness takes crnter stage innl this episode.
Ibrahim is great a brave a never ending warrior
Jelebi was never inocent he is a pain suleiman is rong
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Never died for our sins
Stop making human god
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