Terrible Shonen Jump Fighters
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- Опубликовано: 14 фев 2021
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Shonen Jump has a pile of video games, specifically terrible shonen jump crossover fighters (brawlers is probably a better word tbh), and most of them are just the worst. At least the DS games are pretty good. Jump Force had some potential, but idk, I think there's more than a few reasons it's not hitting the tourny stage. So join me on my adventure to discover the principles of Victory, Effort, and Friendship.
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I was waiting for the joke when you realized that Toriko's creator also got convicted for paying for underage prostitutes, but then it never happened.
Since Toriko isn't as popular noone seems to know this, which is infuriating
@@heinokunzelmann8967 it was a long time ago too. Not saying that in a "we shouldn't hold it against him way" but in explaining why no-one knows about it. Late2017-early18 was when we had a big news cycle about Nobuhiro Watsuki, but it was 2002 that Mitsutoshi Shimabukoro was arrested violating for child prostitution laws, and not many people knew who he was until near the end of Toriko in 2016 (and as you said, not many people even care about Toriko or know manga author's name)
I can't fathom why he couldn't just pay legal age prostitutes to dress in school uniforms.
@@redgrave4492 Not to exculpate him, because not at all, but Japan has a farily big problem of teenagers prostituting themselves to get some cash, and disgusting old men are happy to oblige. Some DO lie about their age, and Toriko's author says that the girl did. Still could have make sure, if that was really a worry for him, and the fact that he didn't makes it clear that even if he was lied to, he didn't care that much about it until he was caught.
@@CrowXIII Ah that's a good point. I'd heard mentions of teens selling themselves for quick cash but didn't realize it was that common.
The one thing I'll actually praise Jump Force for is that Yugi and Kaiba are amazing picks. I don't care what color Goku's hair is today; a teenager kicking his ass with an overpowered trading card is sublime.
The think is the anime decks arent overpowered, they rely heavly on plot armor
@@MrRobot-0 That's why it's overpowered, protected by plot.
honesty i feel like yugi gets his ult 4 times a round
You can beat goku on Jump ultimate stars already
@@MrRobot-0 goku power is literally plot armour
jump force it't basically the "nintendo hire this man" of anime fighters
How can I think these classic characters are cool if they aren't covered in bloom lighting, motion blur, and precisely 7000 particle effects?
I don't get it
@@garyconstanza3120 Once Unreal Engine 4 came out there was a trend of people making videos of popular characters running around generic test areas with default maxed out graphics settings. They'd be shared and commented on with things like "(Nintendo, Sega, Sony) hire this man!" Jump Force's "aesthetics" feel like a whole game of that.
@@MrSTVR Ah.
TBH, that kind of response grinds my gears. It's like people forget that there's more to being a game developer than making something look pretty and drop any sort of standards once they see something fan-made.
“He made it in a flash, and all the assets clash”
Can't believe they missed the chance to add Bleach to the game and call it "Battlestadium B.O.N.D"
I'VE BEEN SAYING THAT SHIT SINCE I WAS A FUCKING KID!!!!
Had a friend who pirated the game somehow and always wondered why Bleach was not included.
D.O.N.....
Like WHY?!?
My favorite part about seeing jump games is seeing which series cucked bleach each time, it’s mostly Dragon ball
I think it’s because in Japan bleach was never considered to be apart of the big 3, it was always naruto especially when you consider how well dbz naruto and one piece have sold compared to bleach. There’s actually a really huge gap between them
More sad knowing the friendship troupe in basically every shonen anime ever.
“Is color theory just an art college scam?”
This is the greatest question I’ve heard today
Oh thank god-
5:37 Pre-Shippuden, Sakura basically had no special moves so every fighting game gave her that stupid "Cha" BS
i think it's worth mentioning that jump force took about half a year or so to add the ability to rematch people online and then dropped a trailer for it like it was worth getting hype over
Wait really? I've never heard of a fighting game without a rematch option.
@@Wiki1184 The new Guilty Gear did not have one either until people got mad about it and then they worked their ass off to have one in time, is really weird that devs don´t feel like we need at least a best of 3.
@@kamatariedgar3603 the beta didn't have it for testing reasons they wanted as many different people to connect with others as possible. When the game released then rematches were available
@@FlyXcur then why we had it in the second testing?
@@kamatariedgar3603 the second beta? Lobby "changes" and balance testing mostly also playing with variable rollback delay. Game was complete but wanted to do more game testing
Sakura having stand attacks is cannon. It’s like her inner voice that comes out and smacks Naruto when he’s doing something stupid. It’s more of a gag then a real attack tho
Last I remember seeing Inner Sakura outside of her mind was in the UN games XD I like the way they used her in this one
There is nothing canon about it. It is simply a visual representation of her inner-self which is a lot more outspoken then the personality she shows openly. It is not some super power she can attack with.
@@RoronoaZoroOneEye "It's more of a gag then a real attack"
@@RoronoaZoroOneEye I mean, what else could they do? Get her to yell for Sasuke until the opponent submits from annoyance? They didn't have much to work with.
When Shippuden rolled around, I was waiting for the stands to show up... didnt happen.
I hate how anime games today are just Arena Fighters which can be considered the Sports games from japan done every single year.
Blame Bandai's bland ass for creating these piles of shit and their fanbase for supporting this overdone bullshit. In Naruto to Boruto: Shinobi Striker, they added a "Battle Royale" which was basically a fucking arena fighter shoved mode into an already mediocre game with 10 or so players and limited fighting space.
@@jerrelllawrence4787 bamdao should create less ninja storms and more dragon ball fighterz type games
Arcsys and all
@@Weebabuu Jesus yes. A Jump game made by Arc Sys would be amazing.
@@poggersuni9637 What if the made kenshiro in this hypothetical jump arcsys game like HNK kenshiro where he plays basketball with the opponent
@@Weebabuu
That would be rad.
It's ya boy K-bash back at it again to win trades and run fades. Glad to see you still putting maximum effort I to your craft.
K-bash with rash clash of anime and hashtags. Full power a max blast the reviews a killer, hokage's mad. Rad-tag with the word play the opinions' fact no one questions that. One hundred k is his paragraph. Preach one critique it's one master class. Floaty combat and button mashes get axed in half when his tongue wags. Forced to jump it's a tough ask. Tell a shonen to grow up or pass. Vocals crash and disrupt the mass. No battle pass just pirate that. Reducing fads with each sheet he has. All upper class. Rated "k" for cash.
alright I'm out of words..
Sorry.
Bro for months I've been looking for good gaming content and besides Scott the woz I've found YT lacking. Then I stumbled onto my alt and found kbash in my search history and busy a fat ass nut when I remembered the solid week 4 months ago of me binge watching his videos
@@lordzooq8987 you may like the salt factory or austin eruption, just two from the top of my head.
@@Yuuki_12 I'll check em out. Appreciate u bro
Apparently at some point in the 2010s, the Shaman King IP was bought out by Kodansha, hence why Yoh hasn't made an appearance in later Jump crossovers.
Which is so sad because Shaman King deserves all the love it could ever get.
@God Slayer YES and that makes me so unbelievably happy.
Interestingly, Yoh was at one point going to be in J-Stars Victory Vs as a support character, but was unfortunately cut from the roster before the game was finished. My guess is that the reason why he didn't make it into the final game was because of Shaman King being bought by Kodansha. 😅
So let me get this straight, bleach cucked by dbz in battle stadium don, then it got cucked by toriko when there were suppose to be 4 big members and then bleach isn't even on the cover of jump force. wow
It's like Kubo pissed off someone at Shonen Jump lol
@@DarkEdge1231 fax. I think it had something to with bleach decrease in popularity and sales overtime
Being a Bleach fan hasn't been easy
@@ilewdlolis939 yeah, bleach fans have it rough, it’s good the anime is continuing
Fumbus Wumbus endless cuckerery for my favorite series 😔
Man, that happy “I’ll kill ya!” really caught me off guard haha
The power of friendship can't save you from being a bad Anime Game.
13:01 To be fair though, City Hunter is worth the watch and it holds up pretty well. Also Ryo Saeba is honestly overpowered AF. Not only does he have the physical strength to hold 2 rocket launchers, his accuracy with firearms rivals trained professionals. He can shoot you 30 meters away with his .44 Magnum Pistol without hitting any of your vital organs, can accurately shoot you in pitch black darkness just by using the flickers of the bullets, can shoot an entire chamber of bullets and have all of them go through one entry point, etc. He can also take a shit ton of physical punishment, and can literally outrun bullets.
Fun fact: there was a point in Jump Force where Ryo (in addition to Ichigo) was the best character in the game because he out ranged everyone
he once shot a bullet into the barrel of another gun
@@rossman8919 Depending on the range, that's not very hard at all.
@@skeletonwar4445 lmao what are you talking about man, it's almost impossible.
@@shikadude95
The 10-point target for the 10m distance discipline is just about the size of a barrel. And even just mediocre shooters hit that target rather consistently.
At a distance of less than 15 meters, it's pretty easy to hit a target of that size, even if you only know a small bit about what you're doing.
If you go out farther, up 25 meters, it starts getting a little harder. But even just looking at basic shot groups for the 25m distance, it's still comparatively easy. Most people with a decent bit of training would be able to hit a barrel-sized target, although probably not on the first shot.
Going up to 50 meters, *that* is where it actually gets hard. The average person would not hit that target at 50m.
However, well-trained athletes do consistently hit inside of a fist-sized radius around the perfect center, so every now and then a shot would hit the barrel at that range.
Anything farther out than 60m with a handgun, yeah, that's unfeasible. At that point it's almost entirely luck.
Of course, with a rifle it's different, but Ryo in the example uses a pretty standard handgun.
jojo using his stand and slowly walking forward as a move was lit as fuck
Jotaro*
@@SaviTheGamer I mean he's still a jojo and is called that in the show lol
Toriko is actually a pretty insane manga with hype moments and well executed characters. The last arc was rushed but it has 1 of the best endings I have read for a shonen manga. Sad thing is, the anime was trash and it being made by Toei did not help as the series has tons of gore and blood. Like people die messed up ways and are even EATEN. Give the manga a try.
Finally!! Someone who appreciates Toriko's manga! I remember Ufotable doing an OVA of the 1st few chapters of Toriko in 2009.
Toriko a classic and agreed the ending was fantastic. Better than bleach and other shounen series.
@@noctisluciscaelum211 True. And the franchise has so much potential. Imagine all the spin offs, restaurants, Toriko themed Amusement Parks, merchandise, video games. It's funny how a greedy company such as Toei would ruin a chance to gain big.
The anime got a shitty timeslot, thats partly why the adaptation is terrible compared to the OVA
Toriko manga is excellent. The fact that it’s extremely underrated is pretty weird to me
What would make me cream is if these games let you individually pick if each character speaks Japanese or English
No. English only, get that weeb shit out of here. Localize the game fully, or it's just half-assed crap
@@the-NightStar get that weeb shit out of here? Bro it's literally anime.
@@the-NightStar I don't know if you need to hear this but your not the protagonist buddy
@@jaikthesnake6285 That would be sick af but impossible
@@the-NightStar Dude even Marvel vs Capcom 3 gives you this option (with the capcom characters) shut your bullshit up chief
Dude, they don't put Shaman King in games post Ultimate Stars because Shueisha LOST the rights to the series, the author took them to another editorial and magazine. They legally can't unless he allows it and after axing his manga TWICE right before the end, I doubt he would give Jump even the time of the day.
Imagine of during all the loading screens in Jump Force, they showcased manga panels & told some history about the various series in the game. That alone would have shown some heart in the game.
PS the final boss of Jump Force is some incredible BS, bless FWOB for surviving that
Friends Without Benefits?
This is known as presentation, this is what J-Star has and not Jump Force
Yeah that would make non-anime fans interested.
It brings me sadness remembering how good the DS games compared to modern fair.
If a JUMP game has Gintama in it, then it's a JUMP game worth playing.
(Also, this showed up in my recommended, and I love it. Subbed right away!)
You’re spittin truth right here🔥🔥
All joking aside, watch City Hunter, it's a quintessential 80's manga/anime.
I sank so many hours into Jump Super/Ultimate Stars as a kid. Good times!
Definitely the best of them by far. I had hundreds of hours in Ultimate and convinced friends to get it so we had a group of like 5 people who played it every weekend.
SAME, that's how I found out about most of the old Anime like Black Cat when I was a kid lol
I wish I could play it. I’m such a huge WSJ fan and I can’t play the best game from them 😅
@@dillongeorge5866 use an emulator
I actually filled up EVERY TEAM SLOT making team combinations.
"Let's be serious and deliberate and analytical. *Buuurp*"
Lol I love you
Hearing Cannonball from Megaman Zero 3 made me squeeeeeeeee
"They really put my man in a big banana peel and said good." UMM it's called fashion sweaty, look it up :)))
Ily
Ew sweaty KBash
Ummm it’s called a joke, learn to take it :)))
@@alexanderthegrape2023 very ironic
your forgot to mention that jump force's characters look straight out of a fallout 3 mod
10:50 THANK YOU @KBash ! I still have no idea why to this day developers want hyper realism when Cel Shading not only looks better, it's easier to develop, uses less memory AND it lasts forever through console generations and PC! I mean look at SuperGiant Games! Even their oldest game Bastion is still a timeless classic thanks in part to the graphics cel shaded and 2D painted glory!!
Damn, can't believe you badmouthed Bobobo. That series rocked at absurdist humor, and the creator of Assassination Classroom cut his teeth working with Bobobo's creator, who gave him lots of pointers
How do you cut your teeth
@@Konradix05 Don't remind me of that pic with the nail clipper...
Jump Ultimate Stars and its prequel Jump Super Stars are absolutely incredible games. You don't even need to know much Japanese to figure out how to play them (but it helps), and you basically have Shonen Jump Smash Bros. Love love love those games.
Finally, SHONEN JUMP SMASH BROS, NOT ANIME...
"the best this game has is proving jotaro can kick goku's ass"
*oh no*
Mitsutoshi drama aside. The Toriko manga is honestly alot of fun and so badass. Personal fave
Good old Battlestadium, could never understand what the game wanted me to do.
Nice intro! That Kenshin author does not get owned enough.
Love all your videos man. I’m happy every time I see a new upload lol.
Great video kbaah!! You’re style is great and always manages to make me laugh! That’s why you’re one of my favorite youtubers. Keep up the great work I’ll be waiting for your next one
Jstars Victory Vs was honestly such a fun game despite it's brokeness, I loved playing it with friends back in the day.
Who's ready for the Shaman King reboot in April!?
I've seen but haven't read the books at my middle school when I was younger, so I do plan on watching this reboot to see what's all the hype is about.
Let's go
It should be a Brotherhood
Wait wut
J Stars was actually decent and fun for what it's supposed to be, Jump Force is complete shit though.
I enjoy both games tbh. Like yeah, they could be better, but at the end of the day they are casual fighters with fan service, and sometimes that’s all I can ask for
I love J-Stars, there is so much dumb things there, deck building is super fun. I used to have assist Light Yagami, drop an apple on everyone that will kill them in 5 seconds if not blocked. was funny as shit!
them i learned deckbuilding is actually amazing and dumb so i could use Kinnikuman with 5 full bars doing extra damage on start of batle to instakill super easily on 1v1s
@@shadou1234567 you are thinking of Jump Ultimate Stars. We were talking about J-Stars Victory Vs. That being said, Jump Ultimate Stars is easily the best Jump crossover game and there is no debate
I find both worse and less fun than the Naruto ultimate ninja storm and the Naruto clash of ninja series 😅
But I can see the appeal of different shounen characters in one game. Too bad that I don't like the gameplay in those games.
@@sonicmaiden2871 I was really hoping jump force could've replaced the storm series as my main game but that game is just... something else
"So, Joker... you actually like the realistic graphic style on 'Jump Force' and 'Marvel vs Capcom infinite'?"
"Yes! And I'm tired of pretending I don't!"
The only thing of note that comes to mind when i think of Jump force is that both Jump force and Smash brothers got Dragon quest characters as DLC in the same year, it was neat.
K-Bash just wanna say you make some phenomenal videos and I always look forward to your uploads mate. Keep up the goody-good greatness, deep takes, analysis and weird magical humor!
I still remember Toriko because for a moment a lot of people thought that it will be the first shonen battle manga where the two protagonists were a gay couple. I am not joking. Those two were written to have chemistry. If you tell me the no homo ending was an editorial decision I would believe you.
I don't get why people act shocked when leads of a story have chemistry. They're supposed to or the moments where they talk about their bond will feel forced.
@@buster3041 Yes. This, very much this. Two male characters can be showed to care and love each other without it having romantic undertones.
To be fair, in this particular case, they had less of "friends forever" energy and more "only you" energy, so it wasn't just people reading too much into it.
Found k-bash a couple weeks ago, have now watched nearly all of his videos! Great work man! I look forward to seeing what comes from you in the future!
I mainly use these games as a way to see what new anime I should look into like Reborn, The Adventures of Dai, Beelzebub, Saiki K. and so forth.
Peepin that Dota commentator quote in the intro, you ain't slick.
K-bash this is a great video also you kept triggering my siri at the end
Why isn't Noelle from Black Clover in it. Why can't we play as the badass water warrior princess?
DLC most likely
It makes My Day every time you upload
Had a good sensible chuckle at your good point bad point segment. Love me some pros and cons lists.
KBash: “Don’t buys unless they’re on sale, I’LL KILL YA!”
Me, who bought JF at full price for two different consoles: *Malicious laughing*
Shoutout to you using Cannonball from MMZ3
For real, next time they do something like this-i really hope they just make a 2D fighter-in the same vein as DBFZ or BBcrosstag. No surprises, no trying to reinvent the wheel or try to make innovations with high risks of losing the audience. Just make a good 2d fighting game with mechanics that we already know work well. Hell, I'm sure arcsys would be willing
Nope. And it will never happen. Anything from arcsys is nothing but trash.
@@TheREALHugo4 What? They're one of the biggest studios in the genre with many mainstay games in the competitive FGC. The fuck are you on about?
Hey man don’t diss mah boi Toriko. Shits got the hypest fights
the jump stars ds games were the first games i ever imported. downloaded a translation guide when i was 11 or 12 that i would carry around in a binder. loved those games to death
Jump Force? More like Jump Farce am I right already?
I’m already at the door.
Keep walking
the amazing thing of Jump Force is that it still lives 2 years later
Kbash, I would give Toriko a try. The worldbuilding and story are some of the most creative I have seen.
Kbashington you and the content make my brain no hurty no more.
I wish Ryo Saeba was in a good game
God Damn it KBash!!!
I had just gotten off a "I need to listen to the original Budokai 3 main theme at least 42 times a day" kick. I certainly hope you are happy sir. I'll tell whichever RUclips channel I give a couple hundreds hours of view time replaying the song that you sent me.
Also anyone else who hasn't played any of these crossover titles mistake Toriko for Jonathan Joestar from behind at a glance?
fun fact the reason that nobuhiro watsuki got free with only a slap on the wrist is because when he bought those videos they were legal but after the government change the law (raising the age of cosent) those videos became ilegal and those videos were found on a storage that he owned so technically the only thing he was guilty of was of not getting rid of them
The Jotaro obviously beating Goku bait instantly got you a Sub and Like, executed absolutely perfectly, man. LOL
what song does this man use when naming patrons. I know what game it's from but I can't name it and it's driving me crazy
"Im sure jump force has fans"
Jump force has fans??? yknow what it has to that explains why ive seen mods with the dbza voice actors
Wait, Battlestadium DON was japan exclusive? I remember playing it at my friends house (I am from Germany). Was the sequel released outside japan or some demo? Because I definately played a legit version of it (it may have been in japanese though and we only guessed the menues).
Yeah i also remember playing it as a kid even though i live in the middle east
Jump Force really isn’t that bad when it comes to playing online if I’m being honest .Yeah it takes some getting used to the toxic players but because so many people left the community due to not wanting to actually practice a bit more and play the game longer to learn the reaction times and how to use the mechanics to your advantage, a lot of the remaining player base decides to play fairly.
You also get to pull off some amazing looking combos and fights from perfect dodging attacks so you could punish your opponent to switching characters while applying pressure with an ability to changing the arena to either force a character switch from your spamming opponent or take away their awakening meter the game has so much potential and cool things you can do it bums me out hearing people say they hate the game because you can’t change your team immediately after facing a friend or because you got spammed and decided not to practice how to outsmart cheesers but that’s just an opinion you know
this is the true opinion of JF, Most people who hate it either never played or played and couldnt handle the cheese and overcome lol
@@Raktr261 the frame rate is also trash, which is kind of an issue.
@@RemixerUltimate also the game just looks bad
@@Raktr261 Nah it really does lack depth
Always was curious. Why do u use like a worse sounding mic compared to your video voice over mic when ur recording game play?
4:19 I actually played it as a kid
I used to have a friend who has it..
I definitely didn't live in Japan tho
I wonder how he got it
My happy ass pre-ordered the Collector's Edition of Jump Force and set it down on day 2.
Yoh’s file was found in J-Stars but was never used alongside Jotaro, Dio and Dai from that one Dragon quest series
I feel like for every step the Jump Force roster took, it took 2 steps back. We did get interesting and well deserved chars like Deku, Yugi Moto, Asta, but we also lost out on other interesting or popular chars from J-stars like Gintoki, Tsuna, and Medaka. I also feel that the Jump Force roster has a lot of filler picks in the roster, since the Dragon Ball, Naruto, and One Pice trilogy take up nearly half the roster, while other series like YuGiOh, Jojo, and Black Clover have barely as many reps as the bigger series
Hitting you early with the throwback KBash meme
Ima simple man. I see a new kbash video, I click.
Shaman King is not even Jump anymore
I enjoy so much your reviews of games :) and I was thinking, will you do the Elder Scrolls (Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim) as well one day...plz!?
At this point I feel like we're just skirting around doing a JoJo fighting game video
RIP Capcom's Jojo fighter from the late 90s.
@@blitz-frenchman663 And JoJo Fortnite is only on Japanese arcades
Props for using the J-Stars ost, that soundtrack actually fucking slaps
The thumbnail looked like bloody stream so I thought it was that
5:09 oh shit we playing *PLAYSTATION ALL STARS BATTLE ROYALE?*
Tbh
Medaka is the only character I'd replace Dio with in ANY crossover
2:08 Don't worry man. We're getting that reboot in a couple of months coinciding with the manga reprint.
EDIT: Well I'd like to partially retract this statement since the anime wound up being one of the biggest fuck ups I've ever had the displeasure of witnessing.
Holy Shit was that Cannon Ball from Megaman Zero 3?! REVIEW SOON!?
Hell yeah a new video of kbash
The kenshiro sound effect had me dying it was so accurate
My favorite content creator back at it again!
I didn't even have a translation patch for ultimate stars. I just brute forced it and looked at the gamefaqs walk through on occassion.
Couple of small gripes I have with Ultimate Stars is that they didn't give Gohan a 6 Koma Panel where he could've been his older self (Goku and Vegeta have 7/8 panel Komas turning them into Vegito, it could've worked), and no playable Ren from Shaman King.
Lol, I found J-Stars for PS3 for Clearance at my Local Walmart about 3-4 years ago.
Victory vs was fun with the ridiculousness
Plus I liked playing as Tsuna
What’s the song used in the intro?
toriko got limited exposure n push from shonen jump for the same reasons that the mangaka for ruroni kenshin got busted for (cp) except they actually fired torikos mangaka n canceled toriko while the other dude still has his job because he was "more important" torikos mangaka had already went to jail n paid fines for what he did and it happened years prior to toriko being released in the west but the info got out n they quickly got rid of him while kenshins mangaka basically got no punishment other than paying like a five thousand dollar fine i think
I really enjoy Jump Force to be honest. It’s a fun game. It’s not a great game, but it’s a fun game, to me anyway. It’s not a game to be taken seriously either. Btw thank you for actually giving a good review of Jump Force instead of just saying “it’s trash” like a lot of people I see on RUclips
I do hope they venture away from Spike Chunsoft in the future tho. I want them to try a Smash Bros style game again in the future. How did you get Jump Ultimate Stars btw?
This channel underrated as hell
Seeing Kenshiro, Raoh, JoJo, Pegasus Seiya and Momotaro Tsurugi in J Stars was awesome.
Jump Ultimate Stars has a lot of series that went on hiatus in it ._. Love how you gloss over that little tidbit xD Shaman King is great, but yeah....that game has waaaaaay more than that in it for hiatus series. When it came out D.Grayman was on one of many hiatus just for an example. @w@
I am just glad whenever I get a game that allows me to play as Grimmjaww
Thanks for the quality upload. You're underrated asf
Fun fact:Ryo from City Hunter is an American man in Japan :) no wonder he uses guns so much