Nothing to add, just another great video. Thank you. P.S. Apex 4 EVA edition is the best collectors edition with a full complete complect and gorgeous design.
@@GameTechTalk Nobody knows. Very strange approach to make "half-baked" collectors editions. I have Apex 4 Assassin's Creed collector's edition and it comes complete with WHITE dongle and standard cable....omg....
indeed. i totally like that collaboration as well but its very expensive compared to black myth wukong edition or at least in my country and besides the specs of that one is the same as the regular apex 4 so nothing worth noting about cuz the only upgrade there is aesthetic only unlike the black myth wukong edition where the polling rate is 2000hz for both wired and wireless connection
I'm enjoying my V4P so much atm but if the V5P get those colors I will buy for sure. Gorgeous controller! Well, minus the stick symbols 2000hz is insane and appreciated but I wish/hope they increased the range instead, I noticed the V4P dongle has a rather short range. great video, and yes you can get gyro in Steam Input with NS mode wired on the V4P and it's been pretty good
@GameTechTalk how many 2000hz polling rate have you reviewed so far? because i want you to compare all of them to know which among them is the best 2000hz polling rate controller
Are you sure the wukong is 12 bit ? With the v4p u can select between 8 -12 bit in the fly digi app but with the wukong that option isn't there within the fly digi app so I presumed the wukong was just standard 8 bit ?
It sure doesn't feel like 8-bit and based off of step resolution, it's gotta be 12. That said you are correct, the option to reduce the sensor sampling rate is not part of Apex 4 BMW. It can be practical for battery life but removing it is something less to worry about to be honest, I think it's a good move on Flydigi's part and removes potential "customer service inquiries".
@GameTechTalk yes I haven't done any testing, I loved the feel of the vp4 sticks but it's impossible even with loosening tension and having all the same settings to make the wukong feel the same, the only reason is either the sampling is lower or it's a different stick. I also love the way they took away the option to change the overclock as in my experience this caused issues for me and others on the vp4 where it would sometimes down clock from 1000hz to 500hz. Thanks for response.
I have no clue, Machenike never reached out to me and I don't know how to reach them either so I don't have a working relationship with them. I did buy their products and tried buying one of their controllers a few weeks back but the seller didn't ship. Sorry, I can't help with that one.
I bought this controller expecting to use it a couple times and put it in the collection and go back to the Vader 4 as my daily driver. Its super cool looking. I havent put it down. It has replaced the Vader 4 for 2 reasons. I love the sticks, theyre perfect. I also love the rubber grip and the weight but I feel like your conclusion is spot on. I bought the accessories and I love the Vader 4. I am that guy who really loves these controllers. Im hoping for a Vader 5 with these sticks and the rubber grips but would probably buy another Apex if they managed to top this one somehow. I think the next Apex needs some sort of real trigger lock its really the only reason I ever reach for the Vader 4 anymore the mouse click triggers are still the best when gameplay is getting spicey.
You know what, I agree about the trigger lock, the new one needs it, I love it too! As much as the force feedback lock can serve its purpose, I’m always concerning of damaging the mechanism over time when I push past it.
The best relies on multiple aspects, there is slightly better when it comes to aiming overall but 2000Hz polling rate is nothing to scuff at either. As for aimbot, I'm sorry but I do not study these solutions and have no intentions to ever do. Cheers
I think for those who can afford it, it is the best of the best out of 2024. I did read a comment in reddit someone saying there is a big conference in las vigas now in january and they are going to show new controllers for 2025 , from gamesir , flydigi , big big won and others .
@@pawes7418 yes that is really exciting news , pc controllers are getting really really good as of lately and i would expect many companies integrating tmr tech into the new versions of the controllers.
@@GameTechTalkmb i should have just asked u instead of commenting that. if you don’t mind answering right here which one I should get then that would be nice.
@@trainking076 If you are comparing USB Galilep G8 to Abxylute S9, I think the S9 is the better pick. S9 versus G8+, I think the G8+ wins for how versatile that it is and because it has superior software for the time being
I love woodgrain. LG (IIRC) and Motorola used to offer woodgrain back plates with their better phones and they were awesome. Even plasti-wood gets the job done. This choice was a big win for Flydigi. What was a big L is charging close to $200 and nickel 'n diming everyone on the accessories. How much could a phone mount cost? Several pennies? The dock probably costs a couple of dollars to make. I agree with you that they should've raised the price a bit and included everything. Make this the best controller they make. Automobile manufacturers often do the same thing. It makes sense on a Quebec special Nissan Micra where they're trying to hit the lowest possible price point. It makes much less sense when someone like Porsche does it with their 911 sports tourer. If you're a fancy brand in your space, which Flydigi is, then don't act like a value brand. Then again, they'll reply that they're acting just like the fancy brands in every other industry, and they'd be right. Great review, as usual. I hope that you enjoy your Vegas vacation, Klef!
Happy new year and what a way to start it off!!! You know I've been waiting for this one. As always very thorough review appreciate that. I have had my eye on this one and was waiting your approval before pulling the trigger on it. love the Cyclone 2 that you recommended, its a Fantastic controller. however I want that premium feel to match great performance. wish they had included at least the charging dock, but oh well. Thanks again Clef
Indeed, you crossed my mind when I finished it. I was like: "At least one person will be happy to see that one" ahahaah! You will not be disappointed, it's really an epic controller.
@@GameTechTalk Thanks Clef, I value your opinion sir. ordering it now, Again appreciate your reviews, Especially this one...lol I will give you an update and opinion.💯💥💥💥🙌🙌🙌
@@GameTechTalk And no matching cable...as you said Flagship should at least have a discounted bundle collectors edition as an option... smh They did miss a great opportunity.
I love my flydigi v4 pro, but it disconnects in game randomly and spins my character around. Idk, kind of a deal breaker for someone who really enjoys fps games. Maybe the apex wukong has better connectivity.
@GameTechTalk if they do it will be awesome! And if they manage to fine tune their analog sticks more then it'll be juicy... like they should release another vedar 4 same price but more fine tuned analog sticks and in assemtrical layout
@@GameTechTalk its amazing the difference between men and women in todays era. You took my advice as constructive criticism which was exactly what i was trying to do. And the fact that you are willing to hear me out and understand speaks volumes and shows you will be a top dog in this space. (Not saying i know it all, i still learn everyday) But imagine if i tell a female this, instantly blocked, offended or a snarky remark. Reminds me of gamer heaven.
189USD, no HD rumble, no metal backpaddles, 2 less buttons compared to the vader 4 pro, just go with the vader4 pro IMO, after experiencing HD rumble first on the KK3 max and now on my Tarantula pro, there is no way IM buying a controller anymore that doesnt have that, oh and trigger locks are also missing, so yes Vader 4 pro if you want a flydigi controller. PD: Yes those thumbstick caps are definitively a sexual innuendo, and its not even subtle.
@@stevensv4864 I honestly dont use it for shooters, only chill RPG games, so I havent noticed the latency, the extra buttons and adjustable stick tension are the main selling points in my case.
Your videos are the best.
Happy new year!
Ahh dang, that's very nice of you to say and greatly appreciated. Happy New Year to you too, all the best!
Nothing to add, just another great video. Thank you.
P.S. Apex 4 EVA edition is the best collectors edition with a full complete complect and gorgeous design.
Thanks and indeed, the EVA is gorgeous too! I like the upgrades of the Apex 4 BMW, why not a full set though 😑
@@GameTechTalk Nobody knows. Very strange approach to make "half-baked" collectors editions. I have Apex 4 Assassin's Creed collector's edition and it comes complete with WHITE dongle and standard cable....omg....
indeed. i totally like that collaboration as well but its very expensive compared to black myth wukong edition or at least in my country and besides the specs of that one is the same as the regular apex 4 so nothing worth noting about cuz the only upgrade there is aesthetic only unlike the black myth wukong edition where the polling rate is 2000hz for both wired and wireless connection
looks crazy dope!
I'm enjoying my V4P so much atm but if the V5P get those colors I will buy for sure. Gorgeous controller! Well, minus the stick symbols
2000hz is insane and appreciated but I wish/hope they increased the range instead, I noticed the V4P dongle has a rather short range.
great video, and yes you can get gyro in Steam Input with NS mode wired on the V4P and it's been pretty good
That gold and black is indeed ::chefskiss::
Got this controller and something is off with the analog.When im aiming the
Controller doesnt stay centered on target
finally a review of this one. i hope you compare this to other 2000hz polling rate controllers like bigbigwon blitz 2
That would actually be an interesting video. Thanks for the suggestion!
@GameTechTalk how many 2000hz polling rate have you reviewed so far? because i want you to compare all of them to know which among them is the best 2000hz polling rate controller
@@dontblinkoryouwillmissme2000hz controllers are reflectively new. I have only seen 3 gamepad that support 2000hz pollrate.
Are you sure the wukong is 12 bit ? With the v4p u can select between 8 -12 bit in the fly digi app but with the wukong that option isn't there within the fly digi app so I presumed the wukong was just standard 8 bit ?
It sure doesn't feel like 8-bit and based off of step resolution, it's gotta be 12. That said you are correct, the option to reduce the sensor sampling rate is not part of Apex 4 BMW. It can be practical for battery life but removing it is something less to worry about to be honest, I think it's a good move on Flydigi's part and removes potential "customer service inquiries".
@GameTechTalk yes I haven't done any testing, I loved the feel of the vp4 sticks but it's impossible even with loosening tension and having all the same settings to make the wukong feel the same, the only reason is either the sampling is lower or it's a different stick. I also love the way they took away the option to change the overclock as in my experience this caused issues for me and others on the vp4 where it would sometimes down clock from 1000hz to 500hz. Thanks for response.
Can someone tell me about the Machenike G1 pro?Why is it always sold out and why does no one do a review?
I have no clue, Machenike never reached out to me and I don't know how to reach them either so I don't have a working relationship with them. I did buy their products and tried buying one of their controllers a few weeks back but the seller didn't ship. Sorry, I can't help with that one.
@GameTechTalk ok still thank you
Have you tested the Bigbigwon Blitz 2 latency with the camera test? It's latency is why I'm considering it over V4pro, but not if it's mediocre.
I have not, sadly I’m not home and wont be for a week to test that either. That said, maybe there is an idea for a video in there. Thanks!
I bought this controller expecting to use it a couple times and put it in the collection and go back to the Vader 4 as my daily driver. Its super cool looking. I havent put it down. It has replaced the Vader 4 for 2 reasons. I love the sticks, theyre perfect. I also love the rubber grip and the weight but I feel like your conclusion is spot on. I bought the accessories and I love the Vader 4. I am that guy who really loves these controllers. Im hoping for a Vader 5 with these sticks and the rubber grips but would probably buy another Apex if they managed to top this one somehow. I think the next Apex needs some sort of real trigger lock its really the only reason I ever reach for the Vader 4 anymore the mouse click triggers are still the best when gameplay is getting spicey.
You know what, I agree about the trigger lock, the new one needs it, I love it too! As much as the force feedback lock can serve its purpose, I’m always concerning of damaging the mechanism over time when I push past it.
is this the best controller for cod warzone pc? if so can you help me to adjust the proper using of aimbot
The best relies on multiple aspects, there is slightly better when it comes to aiming overall but 2000Hz polling rate is nothing to scuff at either. As for aimbot, I'm sorry but I do not study these solutions and have no intentions to ever do. Cheers
I think for those who can afford it, it is the best of the best out of 2024. I did read a comment in reddit someone saying there is a big conference in las vigas now in january and they are going to show new controllers for 2025 , from gamesir , flydigi , big big won and others .
Yes he is going to the conference
CES 2025 - 7.01.2025
@@xXTheUknownClassXx I wish for flydigi apex 2 remade but with actual tech internals
@@pawes7418 yes that is really exciting news , pc controllers are getting really really good as of lately and i would expect many companies integrating tmr tech into the new versions of the controllers.
@@xXTheUknownClassXx it would be nice to see coverage from a person who's passionate about this stuff and knows what he's talking about.
I have the Eva version. Waiting for Apex 5..
Whens it coming out?
That one is also very pretty!
Probably won't be right away but based on their releases, it would be the next one. Early Q2 is what I'd put my money on.
@@sm0983 On CES2025 will announce.
Hey can you do a video on the abxylute s9 vs the GameSir G8 Galileo because I’ve been trying to decide which one I should get
I might at some point, especially if we dont get options in early 2025
With that said, the latest tierlist video is fairly close to a comparison video but for 20 models 😁
@@GameTechTalkmb i should have just asked u instead of commenting that. if you don’t mind answering right here which one I should get then that would be nice.
@@trainking076 If you are comparing USB Galilep G8 to Abxylute S9, I think the S9 is the better pick. S9 versus G8+, I think the G8+ wins for how versatile that it is and because it has superior software for the time being
@@GameTechTalkthank you and one more question if u don’t mind which one is best for people with massive hands cause I got pretty big hands?
This controller looks amazing, but very hard to teardown if repairs are needed.
That sounds about right. Or at least, I dont know that I could repair it and leave it unscathed.
Hands down one of the best controller ive ever used.
It’s quite stunning, both in looks and in features!
i already have a vader 4 still might pick this up
Minus the two extra front buttons, the Apex 4 BMW basically brings the greatness of Apex 4 and Vader 4 into one controller
Ill buy when they bring out this controller without auto calibration
As in no algorithm at all? Because you can check a bunch of but I still think so are still running in the background.
I love woodgrain. LG (IIRC) and Motorola used to offer woodgrain back plates with their better phones and they were awesome. Even plasti-wood gets the job done. This choice was a big win for Flydigi.
What was a big L is charging close to $200 and nickel 'n diming everyone on the accessories. How much could a phone mount cost? Several pennies? The dock probably costs a couple of dollars to make. I agree with you that they should've raised the price a bit and included everything. Make this the best controller they make.
Automobile manufacturers often do the same thing. It makes sense on a Quebec special Nissan Micra where they're trying to hit the lowest possible price point. It makes much less sense when someone like Porsche does it with their 911 sports tourer. If you're a fancy brand in your space, which Flydigi is, then don't act like a value brand. Then again, they'll reply that they're acting just like the fancy brands in every other industry, and they'd be right.
Great review, as usual. I hope that you enjoy your Vegas vacation, Klef!
Happy new year and what a way to start it off!!! You know I've been waiting for this one. As always very thorough review appreciate that. I have had my eye on this one and was waiting your approval before pulling the trigger on it. love the Cyclone 2 that you recommended, its a Fantastic controller. however I want that premium feel to match great performance. wish they had included at least the charging dock, but oh well. Thanks again Clef
Indeed, you crossed my mind when I finished it. I was like: "At least one person will be happy to see that one" ahahaah! You will not be disappointed, it's really an epic controller.
@@GameTechTalk Thanks Clef, I value your opinion sir. ordering it now, Again appreciate your reviews, Especially this one...lol I will give you an update and opinion.💯💥💥💥🙌🙌🙌
That thing has better make me better at the game
It will, go buy it.
😂 If it did, I would've been more forgiving about the lack of dock and phone mount... #Imforeverbad
@@GameTechTalk And no matching cable...as you said Flagship should at least have a discounted bundle collectors edition as an option... smh They did miss a great opportunity.
I love my flydigi v4 pro, but it disconnects in game randomly and spins my character around.
Idk, kind of a deal breaker for someone who really enjoys fps games. Maybe the apex wukong has better connectivity.
That's with bluetooth or the dongle? Sounds like there is interference causing signal disruption.
@Flydigi make playstation format controller!!
Maybe 2025 is the year that they will, time will certainly tell!
@GameTechTalk if they do it will be awesome! And if they manage to fine tune their analog sticks more then it'll be juicy... like they should release another vedar 4 same price but more fine tuned analog sticks and in assemtrical layout
2KHz not 2000Hz always use the correct integer! And it is Hz not HZ this S.I. does not exist :3
Thank you for your inputs
No, you're not the crazy one
*embossed logo
Thanks, that shows you paid attention 🙏 I noticed during the editing portion as well. Brain fart moments! 🤪
Youre an awesome reviewer, but you are killing me each time you say “these ones” 😖😖
I am aware of that habit, trying to improve but that one is very deeply rooted. Thanks for being patient with me ❤️
@ get rid of it immediately.
@@GameTechTalk its amazing the difference between men and women in todays era. You took my advice as constructive criticism which was exactly what i was trying to do. And the fact that you are willing to hear me out and understand speaks volumes and shows you will be a top dog in this space. (Not saying i know it all, i still learn everyday) But imagine if i tell a female this, instantly blocked, offended or a snarky remark. Reminds me of gamer heaven.
189USD, no HD rumble, no metal backpaddles, 2 less buttons compared to the vader 4 pro, just go with the vader4 pro IMO, after experiencing HD rumble first on the KK3 max and now on my Tarantula pro, there is no way IM buying a controller anymore that doesnt have that, oh and trigger locks are also missing, so yes Vader 4 pro if you want a flydigi controller.
PD: Yes those thumbstick caps are definitively a sexual innuendo, and its not even subtle.
But.. v4pro has bad latency..?
@@stevensv4864 So does the Apex 4
Flydigi hasn't made good latency
@@stevensv4864 I honestly dont use it for shooters, only chill RPG games, so I havent noticed the latency, the extra buttons and adjustable stick tension are the main selling points in my case.
Go with vader 4 pro if you want to disconnect randomly yeah
@@stevensv4864Every controller mentioned here has bad latency.