Kei Truck vs Cummins: Does Size Matter In The Snow?
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Kase and Tommy take our 1997 Honda Acty kei truck, and Kase's 1994 Dodge RAM 2500 Cummins in the snow!
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Funny the US lawmakers are trying to ban these kei because of safety but meanwhile you can go out and drive a motorcycle legally which is wayyyy more dangerous than the truck is
I have a Diahatsu HiJet. It has a low range, rear locker, a two inch lift, and knobby tires. It makes a world of difference in the snow. I have it set up in a similar way that you have the Polaris with the snow plow. It is a work horse. The Honda Acty is more of a street oriented Kei truck vs. the other models.
Yeah, diahatsus are known for good offroad vehicles and made good too... Its kinda smaller way of subaru in japan
A lot of those little kei trucks have hydraulic dumping beds, diff locks and even center diff locks. If you get one with those and some legit tires, they’re damned near unstoppable.
Except for ground clearance tire size and hp
@@brettknighten1171you can lift them and put bigger tires on
@@jameson1239 yes making them top heavy and unstable due to how skinny the truck is
@@brettknighten1171 wider tyres fixes that problem though it does reduce effective power
@@jameson1239 now you are to wide and tires stick out the sides and your still top heavy. Buy a first or second get ranger. Better towing better payload, more creature comforts, cheaper, more stable, parts easier to find, capable of all highway driving, great mpg, more cab room, etc
I would NEVER take that little truck on the interstate, BUT, keeping it to use as a weekend shop truck. absolutely.
In their last fleet update, that they said they would use it for now. Not able to license it.
Those things aren't really meant for American highways. In Japan highway speeds are more like 50 mph, so on US highways at 65 70 mph those tiny engines get tached up really high, like 5k RPMs. Even a good ol Honda can't take that for hours on end.
@@jacobrzeszewski6527 I've recently driven on Japanese highways, the limit is 100 km/h or 60 mph and the road is full of keis. I agree I wouldn't want to do it for hours but to hop on the highway for a few exits they do just fine.
CAN YOU IMAGINE the threat it would pose to the US car industry if people realised you dont need a $100k 7L V8 truck to move stuff from A to B
What about a motorcycle? This little truck is still 10x safer than a motorcycle
you need to try kei trucks with real transfer case with low range and rear diff lock. real 4wd. for example: Mitsubishi Minicab or Suzuki Carry
Exactly 💯
In Japan, it is possible to drive on snow-covered roads to some extent by installing studless tires, but in places where the entire area is covered with thick snow, such as ski resorts and heavy snowfall areas, Kei trucks modified with caterpillars on all four wheels are sometimes used!
So the US will allow a 1st gen. Volkswagen Beetle from 40+ years ago on the road at 70+ mph but not these?!
Exactly the reason most of us have 20yr old vehicles. No gov. / manufacturers forced technology add ons. I drive daily 8 miles 1 way I do not need half crap new rides have.
And having a thousand hp isn't dangerous at all.
I agree with the point you are making but wouldn't a first gen bug be more like 70-75 years ago now.
@7cougar0 the government is trying to kill people off
I think you mean Volkswagen Rabbit...
Aomori City in Japan is in fact the world’s snowiest city, it gets a mind boggling 312in of precipitation in the form of snow a year. It’s not a coincidence that the Japanese know how to handle it.
8 meters of snow ❄️ is no joke.
As a northern midwesterner I was downright shocked to find out that all the snowiest cities are in Japan
@@mergenocide Why surprise?
@@mergenocide日本の季節はめっちゃ極端だよ。夏は暑いし冬はクソ寒い
The Kei truck proves it is not the size its how you use it
Hehehehe 😏
What I tell myself every single day
Not what yer ol lady said🤷
I see what you did there.
Generally the lighter the better in snow
That kei truck seemed a lot more under control than the dodge. Plus it didn't seem to have nearly as much tire spinning
Well yeah, the Dodge weighs a crap-ton more and is open diff and no AWD (?) It was spinning a lot more because he wasn't trying to keep traction whike tearing it up in the Dodge. Once he went slow to get up onto the pavement at the end, it hooked almost instantly.
A quick shop for some wheels and tires would make the K truck much more capable.
I think it's great the Honda is designed well enough that it does just about as well, but it depends on your needs, big truck to move big things, little truck for limited space or budget when you only need small things moved about. Does illustrate that small doesn't need to be a sacrifice if you don't need big.
We need more Case! This was a fun video to watch!! He brings some Nathan school of driving with Andrea’s great delivery of information. A Star is Born!
"Kase" and news flash, he is and has been a presenter for years. All you have to do is watch. :)
@@WW-wf8tu I watch TFL not many of thier other off-shoot channels. Thanks for the spelling correction Kase’s mom…
My Daihatsu HiJet Climber has low range and locker. I have a hydraulic plow for it with remote control blade direction.
I had a relative who had a Bedford Rascal station wagon, ( A badged version of a Suzuki similar to your pickup but with a van style body). He was driving north on the M6 motorway at Shap, a three lane section and was having difficulty overtaking a lorry ( Truck) as the pressure of the bow wave from the truck was too great for the limited power of the Bedford to get through. He dropped back from the truck, which was in the inside. lane, then accelerated as fast as he could in the middle lane until he hit he pressure wave, then popped into the third lane effectively side stepping the pressure wave and drove on. Got a wave and a toot. on the horn from the lorry driver.
Loving that 12 valve!!!
1:24 what is this, a government contract? One guy working and 3 guys standing around watching him
Put some different tires on that kei truck n it’ll be a beast
I love that they tote the enclosed cab of the side by side and yet that comes standard on the kei truck.
The Honda Acty is also available in crawler versions. It also has a blade for snow removal.
Snow tires exist for a reason.
A brodozer with summer tires will soon end up in the ditch on icy roads.
Those are A/T’s on the Ram; granted, they aren’t snow tires (or even 3 peak rated A/T’s), but they are much better then summer and (most) all seasons on icy roads.
It's not a "brodozer" and those aren't "summer tires" and the internet exists so you have the option to research before exposing your ignorance...
@@matthewschiebout7384 Cool story bro
Someone shoulda hopped in the back to give the Kei truck some traction in back
You don't need someone to hop in the back whenever your mudding in a regular truck, so why should the kei truck get special treatment in an off-road test?
@@larrycharles-dm2hs For fun
@@larrycharles-dm2hs the other truck is heavily modified, and the kei truck is completely stock. how is that fair but standing in the back of the kei truck isnt? it was never a fair test, its just for fun and entertainment. seeing how standing in the back would affect the kei truck would be entertaining
i must say, i love your guys collection of unique vehicles in your garage! its always rich snobs with ferraris and mclarens lol.. its good to see very nice day to day rides as well for once. that dakota though!! i want!
Japanese Kei trucks are fun! I want to play with a Kei truck once overseas.
I think you can get it registered for the road in Montana. I see one drving around town all the time where I live.
Put a small lift and some atv tires/ rims on the K truck.
Among the Honda Acty Full Time 4WD models, the Acty Attack, which specializes in rough terrain, might have been able to climb hills. I'm looking for it in Japan, but I can't find it. Probably the strongest light truck. Unfortunately, Honda no longer produces light trucks.
I:m surprised that this little truck is liked by so many people, especially a lot of big nurly guys that look over 6 feet tall. Great fun review by the way. Thanks gents. keep on truckin
I think the kei truck for me is a really good option, because of all the practical utility it has a that I don't really need anything that big. I believe one should pick a truck based on what they need it for. If you have really heavy loads to carry and pull around, the dodge should be the pick, for light duty utility, doors, lumber, home improvement stuff, like maybe hauling your own kitchen appliances, the kei truck meets all of my needs. I'm never gonna be hauling around thousands of pounds of concrete or pulling heavy trailers so that little Honda would be everything I need. I would probably want a kei truck with about 80 horsepower though. Otherwise it's perfect for me. I use my sedan to haul lumber and stuff in though as it is, just for big boxy items that simply won't fit in a Toyota Corolla, the kei truck would handle it all. Considering that it's easy enough to load a refrigerator in the back and drive it home, it's all the truck I would ever need.
Some tire chains maybe from a lawn mower would help those horrid tires on the little toy truck. Put the guys standing there to use and add that weight to the bed would also help the little truck.
Those guys were making a separate video out there at the same time. It dropped a couple weeks ago.
Or just put better tires on
@@jameson1239 tough to find good 13 inch tires.
@@badgerpa9 ATVs or dirt bike tires
@@jameson1239 But they are not often road legal, They use to ship tires over from Japan in the storage units they sent the trucks in so then they could sell tires also, not sure if they still do. Farm and Fleet use to sell snow tires for 13 inch wheels for escorts, chevette type little cars.
Comparaison would have been nice with a non lifted stock pickup on street tires like the acty
I have 500' combined of driveway that I plow with my Suzuki Carry Kei truck. I use a 66" heavy-duty Denali UTV plow. The Suzuki is a beast in the snow with no additional weight in the rear. Tires make all the difference, though.
You guys should do a TFLski
You can get Blizzak tires for these. I'm sure it would make a big difference.
Ive driven one of these here in australia but and heights not the problem lol. Im 6"4 and also a size 13 but not "scale challenged" and i fit in pretty well, easier than a miata anyway.
I will say the Kei truck is superior to the RAM in one category, Cuteness!! Kei trucks are super cute and super cool!
Well considering I own both as well. It depends on how much fun you want to have the honda is always cool but the turbo of the cummins always is awesome so really your own preference!
@ 9:11 That’s me. Me too is 6‘1“
K truck is really cute and usful in many situations! Butt, That Dodge needs a Camper like a 4 wheel pop top camper!
just get both, got a TRX about to get one of these.
love how the roof design over looked ugh, when snow falls 20 feet kinda packs lol, pretty overm loads functional this time, great shop, fun to see , the hunger game annoucers lol
Fun fact: Japan requires to do crash tests on these K pickup trucks. Newer gens have airbags. So theoretically these k trucks are safer than side by side.
Offroad side by side tires are needed on that Honda.
After I saw the first TFL video with this little truck, I went looking for more videos. I found one where a guy put side-by-side tires on one. Another video had a guy install tracks and drive through deep snow.
Great video guys.
I wonder if you can get a Daihatsu s90/91/92 to the states. it doesn't have AWD, but it can accommodate tall people better, I think.
Just for WHATS and shiggles? Tommy, language! 😂
If I could drive a Kei truck on the road I would be actively looking for a 4wd jumbo with a manual transmission, two speed transfers cases, lockers and set it up for plowing and salting.
Imagine all that open space, but yet so close to the neighbor's house.
Don't forget to drop the plow when you are done plowing......as it is still raised 2:00 in your video. It takes the weight off the front differential. Living in Colorado, that is something you should know....maybe you need the Polaris lawyer to tell you that too 😱!
Ayy more kei truck
looks like you could use some weight in the back
Yeah, we could all use three more inches 😂
Would have to pick the one you can actually register for on road use 🤷🏻♂️
How do you avoid old people asking for a ride?
Lift the truck a good 6+ inches and get rid of the running boards 😂
Fun video. I like the "line change". (hockey term for mixing up the personnel) I hope you guys go viral on many videos!
HONDAのリアルタイム4駆は基本パートタイム。デフロック機能付きでないと除雪されてない道路は厳しい…
Its no more dangerous than a side by side or a motorcycle so if you're willing to drive it why is it anyones business its certainly less dangerous to the public than a full size truck
Honestly just give the Acty some good small off-road tires and you probably could solve quite a lot of those traction problems.
American automotive brands need to make mini trucks their Is more of a demand then they think rhd is the only turn off for me, that and tires size I can't tell you how many I have seen selling with junk quad tires on them.
Wish that kei truck had snow/off-road tires
Snow tires for Kei?❤
You three did outstanding. Alex kase and tommy Tremendous vlog
Need to swap out for a sport bike motor
Chuck the snow plow on your Acty. It works
we have these on the farm and I also have the 2022 as my personal; truck....they are absolute animals these Kei trucks, vans and cars. Keitora is the Truck life ahahah
Fairly certain the subarus have a smidge more cab space if the big guy is still interested in a kei
Falken needs to send Kase new tires, then throw in a lunchbox rear locker. It's good to go almost anywhere.
Those don't look like winter tires. So, it's doing fantastic.
More of a test of tires than vehicles.
I do like a Cummins Diesel truck,... BUT for a lot of real fun, I have t pick the Honda Kei.
Anyone ever put 4 inch portals on a keitruck, ? 4 inch lift + gear reduction for bigger tires , any lhd conversion ?
A set of one inch larger winter tires and the Honda would be as unstoppable as anything with such low ground clearance could ever be.
*CAN YOU IMAGINE* the threat it would pose to the US car industry if people realised you dont need a $100k 7L V8 truck to move stuff from A to B
The Honda Acti is the most vulnerable of the snow-covered road k-trucks.
The Subaru Sambar is the most snow resistant of the k-Trucks.
二人の距離を近づけるのは軽トラックだ(笑)
Cool truck but you could never drive that on the interstate or anywhere with a speed limit over 45mph, not only is it very slow but its got zero crash protection of any kind.
They can get up to 65 depending on the model, and it has better crash protection than a motorcycle and people ride those all the time
The reason they are fighting these vehicles is because of safety? Here, I figured it was cheap, reliable transportation. Would that ever burn the American car markets a**. The fact is that federal law states that after 25 years, they can be imported without restriction. There are various tax laws regulating newer than 25 years. Thanks LBJ 🤬 but I digress. The bottom line those states outright banning them are in breach of federal regulation. Those limiting them to non-highway use are using a gray area that is semi-valid, though slightly misguided. Are they beasts that should be on a highway at 70 mph? They could, in theory, do it, but as responsible adults we should understand the difference between should and could. If our overinflated, obese, fat cat, $140,000 truck auto manufacturers did a little market research, they might realize a small economically efficient cost-effective truck priced at around $10,000 - $12,000 new would sell like hotcakes. This is why the American auto marcket is failing at design, sales, retention, and overall business. They are bleeding green, be it from debt, regulation, or sheer obstinance. The rise in popularity and import should give them a market idea, let alone public reactions, in general, with most finding these vehicles "cute." So why aren't they getting a hint that a truck designed to fail and having no dealer support after 10 years, that goes from $140,000 to $70,000 the second your name goes on the title. Is a terrible business model? Dont even get me started on electrics. On that note, maybe I should casually and quickly put my soap box away. Peace be with you all and enjoy what you like. we should all have life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Between this and the behind the scenes footage of this some time ago, I think this presentation was the better of the 2. While the behind the scenes video of this video was not horrific per se, one can certainly appreciate the editing done on this product. Which one of the 2 do I like better? Wish you had not asked. lol Both have their use case scenario where they would excel in. Obviously since you cannot legalize that Kei truck for the streets, Kase truck wins. (in so many ways)
Put the Kei truck through your slip test. I want to see how the awd system works
Nokia winter tires ?
Kei truck needs a k sized turbo
install winter tires and that small truck capable
Could not force me to wear a helmet in that little thing pushing a little snow. I would just walk away.
not enough ground clearance , tiny ass tires, wish i was there with my subaru loyale to play
you guys should get a old subaru with low range
lol the lil trucks face looks like its stoned
It’s all about wheel speed if you got the power and decent tires and can spin them real fast youl be good . Lol found this out in a old ford 250 2 wd that thing would creep threw mud and snow as long as I got them back wheels turning real fast lol people doubted me the stuff I took it threw 😂
The only things keeping this sort of vehicle out of the States as new, assuming the marketing teams estimated they'd sell enough to make it worth their while, is the shadow of the consumer safety hand-wringing over the Suzuki Samurai in the late '80s as well as the Chicken Tax.
Y’all should try putting the engine from a Honda CB650R or from a CBR1000RR in the Acty, much more torque and horsepower
WHICH is worse: you wearing a helmet inside the vehicle on flat ground or it takes four others to watch you do it? 🤔
it depends as my atv does better in some cases but my truck does why better on covered roads
Now try again with proper winter tires
I thought Tommy’s voice had finally changed until he gets excited. Was Case hired to keep an eye on Tommy? i.e. be his babysitter
I want a suzuki carry
I'd like to see new KEI trucks (2024) imported into the US.
❤ I'd like the 5 point nine
Imagine if you guys actually had some better tires on that little kei truck
The Acty is the most non-offroad kei truck you could have used.
seems like you really can't go wrong indeed
I get it, I'd feel like an Idiot as well with a helmet as well. 😂
I want one of each!!!😁
Damn. That Dodge is nice. Finnigan wants.
Me too! 😁