[Math] Complete Gnonno Analysis/Guide

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  • Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025

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  • @Maygi
    @Maygi  Год назад +101

    Hi everyone ! Just to clarify, no, I'm not quitting (I'm not sure where this rumor started) - I think some people may have taken it out of context on my stream, I was talking about seriously quitting my actual job (as they were forcing people back into office), though that has folded and I get to stay working remote anyway! Anyways, I'll be streaming my Gnonno pulls as soon as she's out tomorrow (or as soon as I get up, anyway), so make sure to catch me at twitch.tv/maygii !
    Also as usual, I'll update with any clarifications/fixes here.
    "What's with the 2x 561K on max investment" woops, the bar for Lan should be topping out at 517K.
    "So triple physical is useless then" it's not useless per-se, the rotation is just really clunky and awkward but can totally pump out some viable damage. With the Umi bugfix it might actually see a lot of power with Umi main DPS, we'll have to see.

    • @isimply5381
      @isimply5381 Год назад +5

      Thanks god ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

    • @SealTeam646
      @SealTeam646 Год назад +6

      I always tend to respect the decisions of others. Still, thank you for those clarifications. I wasn't really aware of those rumors either.

    • @siphi7583
      @siphi7583 Год назад

      Wait, so you will do Rubilia math video? Take my upvote then.

    • @pijay678
      @pijay678 Год назад +3

      out of context stream moments hahaha

  • @ByakuRyuu
    @ByakuRyuu Год назад +27

    Thank you very much as always Maygi.

  • @SealTeam646
    @SealTeam646 Год назад +7

    And don't forget the most important contribution of this character. The hyperactive tentacle girl with pizza cutter teaches us that it is possible to swim in the deep sea with high heels.

  • @Crystalwizardtrue
    @Crystalwizardtrue Год назад +20

    you are the best,thanks for the extreme effort doing this, we appreciate it,wholeheartedly!

  • @SaintlerX
    @SaintlerX Год назад +6

    I admire your hard work Maygi! Can't imagine TOF without you, Mr. Cake and Kyrios.

  • @Denwor
    @Denwor Год назад +13

    Thanks for another great video Maygi ❤

  • @LiuAnshan
    @LiuAnshan Год назад +6

    Excited! Thanks for all you do!

  • @mapixmapix3672
    @mapixmapix3672 Год назад +39

    don't quit maygi

  • @Drinst
    @Drinst Год назад +3

    Amazing video, the amount of work that goes into this is significant. Thank you for helping the ToF community. Gl on the pulls!

  • @VelaApproves
    @VelaApproves Год назад +3

    I’m really happy with this. All I wanted was a charger for my Umi so I can play her more consistently and she does exactly that, but it seems she does more now and I can actually pair her with my Lan and Altered team. I can’t wait to get her!!

  • @WyKKe
    @WyKKe Год назад +5

    thanks maygi, very good news, let's go physical mains

  • @605TYO
    @605TYO Год назад +5

    Skip genono, go for rubillia 🤣🤣 this is the first time that i skipped a char on tof

  • @JkNoodIes
    @JkNoodIes Год назад

    Thanks for all your hard work once again Maygi! I was reluctant to pull for gnoochi, but seeing how useful she is for both physical AND altered team means that she’s perfect for my account. Thanks for the guide and number-crunching, and hope you rest well after seeing physical rise up again! :)

  • @Achelouz
    @Achelouz Год назад +5

    Thank you Maygi Magical Math Fairy~! Gnonno's release will be the most important release for Physical mains who are still around and haven't given up playing ToF yet, because as you know (you're a Phy main yourself haha), Umi was powercrept during her own banner (by Fenrir) by a super large margin, resulting in subsequent characters Lan and Icarus also having to powercreep by a large margin to match up to Fenrir's power gap. Since Fenrir's release, Physical mains have been literally left behind while the rest of the game moved on, many either converted to play support with their Lyra (Lyra/Fiona/Lin) or quitted altogether as they felt they wasted their money to max out Umi. It may be too late for those that have quitted but for those Phy mains who are still around, Gunonno is a must-pull to get back on track.

    • @lolilord9169
      @lolilord9169 Год назад +3

      2 месяца играл саппортом лира уми + 1, как же я понимаю

    • @nevolence
      @nevolence Год назад +2

      Yeah. As someone who pulled A6 Umi (and her skin lol), I can't wait to finally be relevant in the game again.

    • @ranggaalyansaputra8775
      @ranggaalyansaputra8775 Год назад +2

      She's the physical's resurrection

    • @ranggaalyansaputra8775
      @ranggaalyansaputra8775 Год назад

      @@nevolence maygi said it in the next video. But when I saw the rotation, it still feel clunky that gnono's main DPS. Maybe you can give me some trick to make it smoother

  • @minakatahizuru
    @minakatahizuru Год назад +2

    You are doing great work with this info love your videos Maygi ❤❤

  • @iNiemann
    @iNiemann Год назад +3

    My eyes are happy to see this video.
    Physical squad, lets delete bosses tomorrow.

  • @allpicker8916
    @allpicker8916 Год назад +3

    Don't quit ❤❤❤

  • @mickiekatsuragi2690
    @mickiekatsuragi2690 Год назад +1

    thank you ! finally rubilia is next , as a volt main i was patiently in line waiting for my turn again 😖

  • @MizzoF1
    @MizzoF1 Год назад +2

    Thx for the Video.
    Im keen to see the Rubilia one :D

  • @wanszyl917
    @wanszyl917 Год назад +1

    Rotation time line POG nice upgrade

  • @Titan.TheCrusher
    @Titan.TheCrusher Год назад

    I loved it! Thanks, Maygi!!! 🥰

  • @lastfirefox
    @lastfirefox Год назад +2

    Interesting Can't wait for Rubilia :3

  • @hoangnamnguyen4804
    @hoangnamnguyen4804 Год назад +2

    The Rubilia dmg bar makes me laugh so hard XD

  • @danielm872
    @danielm872 Год назад +4

    Thank you 🥰

  • @frenzii8332
    @frenzii8332 Год назад

    For me the team thats giving me the most fun and best dmg yet is Gnonno, Lan, and Claudia. Its so bursty and the team has really good synergy. I even got to hit mvp on challenge raid today! Haboela 4pc has been a blessing to my dmg output. And also, I highly recommend you use Gnonno's trait if you can get used to using her skill to 2 octopus. That buff is very good and is easy to keep active when you learn the timing.

  • @narcodixyadigg781
    @narcodixyadigg781 Год назад +1

    Thank you for the content!!

  • @akaevilvargas
    @akaevilvargas Год назад +11

    Don't quit math fairy!!! I have a busy schedule, and not having to search for optimal rotations makes the game so much more fun! How can we support you more for this content? Do you have a Patreon?

    • @Maygi
      @Maygi  Год назад +14

      don't worry, i'm here to stay !! the thing i was planning on quitting was my irl job, not tof, i guess people took it out of context haha~ and i guess i have a kofi? you can find that here: ko-fi.com/maygi

  • @danielkurtz3045
    @danielkurtz3045 Год назад +2

    Her power is just her constantly bitchslapping the enemy

  • @snake33th
    @snake33th Год назад +1

    Thank you once again

  • @ozymandias2630
    @ozymandias2630 Год назад +1

    Thanks for all the work you have done

  • @dominik3681
    @dominik3681 Год назад +5

    Good Job, thank you. Are you gonna look into that Umi mdps thing or do i have to figure that out myself? :D

  • @saddany3254
    @saddany3254 Год назад +2

    Damn altered gunonno is great

  • @revoluxon
    @revoluxon Год назад +3

    Just wondering if you took into consideration (or even know about it) there was a bug in test server where dimension level was affecting cactus stats, so you could deal ALOT more damage to them at lvl 10, decreasing on every upgrade until lvl 90. Parses were all over the place considering this bug can make Gnonno feel over/under powered depending on dimension lvl. You cant really compare previous tests of all other elements where the bug wasn't present, unless you had access to those weapons in test server in order to check the numbers again IMO. I appreciate the effort you put on every video, but i won't jump into conclusions until I test it on live servers. **Also thumbnail says "Gnunno", just in case you didn't notice and want to fix it ^-^ **

  • @bytes021
    @bytes021 Год назад +1

    thank you for the hardwork! hope i get lucky and i get Lin and Gnono for my altered comp for my alt acc xD
    suprised Lan work with gnono though😮

  • @saddany3254
    @saddany3254 Год назад

    That "g game" when shouting out to D Raiden 😂😂

  • @yuharu7550
    @yuharu7550 Год назад

    Thank you for still hanging in there Maygii! Great insight even though I'm still on the fence here..
    Its interesting you mention that in Physical team I can swap out Umi for Claudia, but what matrice do you guys recommend in that case? I got no Umi or Gunono matrices and I'm not planning to pull for their matrices..just curious on the alternatives.

  • @Drropz
    @Drropz Год назад +1

    Thnks for the videos

  • @IamAvidity
    @IamAvidity Год назад +1

    Thanks for the maths

  • @Xerneas385
    @Xerneas385 Год назад

    I wanna start ok a physical team since I got some insane physical gear (WAAAY better then my main element).
    I was worried that I would have to A6 her but I'm glad that Claudia works well enough with her. Gonna hope that I can pull some Claudia's in Standart for her then ^^

  • @archz6
    @archz6 Год назад +1

    thankyou!

  • @xploregasm
    @xploregasm Год назад

    when I watch maygi's guide, I go directly to comparisons, coz it's hard to understand numbers, lol

  • @rohrleger
    @rohrleger Год назад +1

    besto girl!

  • @ranggaalyansaputra8775
    @ranggaalyansaputra8775 Год назад +1

    This is what I want
    Maybe I'll go to advance my Lyra's matrices 😌

  • @chito2701
    @chito2701 Год назад

    She's really cool, but I'm reluctant to pull for her.

  • @jeffery_pentest5201
    @jeffery_pentest5201 Год назад +5

    Need some advice I’m phys main
    I have c5 Lin and I can only c0 gnnuno but I want c6 lin
    So I want to know if it’s worth to pull gnnuno c0 or I should go for lin c6

    • @Tsareena54i
      @Tsareena54i Год назад +1

      If u are a phys main drop Lin. Lin isnt good for physical

    • @ONIGIRIKINGU
      @ONIGIRIKINGU Год назад

      I dont understand how you didnt save for fiona and gunno

  • @MRafas-ie9zh
    @MRafas-ie9zh Год назад +2

    Dont wanna bench my A1 Umi
    I also dont have a lot of pulls cuz of Fiona lol
    What I dont understand is why do you make a on-field matrix comparison and not the NEEDED off-field comparison?
    First you say that we need matrices from different categories, and now ppl say that 4pc Umi is much better than 2pc Umi/Gunono. Is Guno elemental buff so dogshit its not worth it? I dont understand

  • @Kirius.
    @Kirius. Год назад

    Hi Maygi! Please answer a question that is a bit off topic, but important to me:
    My team: Alyss A-1, Icarus A-1, Saki A-1.
    My matrices: 4 Shiro, 4 Scylla, 2 Samir & 2 purple matrices. All with 0 stars.
    I want to replace 2 purple matrices and I have 160 yellow matrices-cashback.
    Advise me please what is better for me to take:
    2 Frigg for an 8% frost attack that will work anywhere.
    Or take 2 Claudia? and then... far in the future... take another +2 Claudia. And give all 4 to Icarus.

    • @Maygi
      @Maygi  Год назад +1

      Eventually working towards 4Claudia would definitely be the better long-term option! Frigg 2pc isn't bad, but Claudia has a lot more value with Icarus/Alyss ~

  • @xsveron1287
    @xsveron1287 Год назад

    thank you

  • @yozzu5101
    @yozzu5101 Год назад

    Let's continue our adventure to Domain 9 maygi

  • @lutziify
    @lutziify Год назад +1

    11:40 gnoono is better with shiro/samir instead lin matrice. also, maelstrom is always better

  • @m4rjinn232
    @m4rjinn232 Год назад +2

    I need the pizza cutter princess 👸

  • @rhjn8751
    @rhjn8751 7 месяцев назад

    yes don't quit maygi :(

  • @wulongchai
    @wulongchai Год назад

    NIce guide. i was waiting for this. i was thinking alter gnono team is better or gnono claudia fiona phys team better. My only issue is i only have a3 Lin while i can easily a6 Claudia in new patch. A3 Lin,Fiona alter comp still pulls ahead on dmg comparing with A6 claudia, gnonon team?

  • @00Jas0
    @00Jas0 Год назад

    tytyty!:)

  • @Narwhal2025
    @Narwhal2025 Год назад +4

    Physical is the best team now with gunono ? 🤔

    • @Tsareena54i
      @Tsareena54i Год назад

      What a suprise. But im suprised Altered comp with Gunonno is the 2nd strongest team now

  • @thomasgreenwich4228
    @thomasgreenwich4228 Год назад +1

    So Maygi what do you think? Is physical Saved?

  • @jinmori7561
    @jinmori7561 Год назад +4

    I just retired from tof but still here only for ur cute voice i love ur voice soo much im playing these days honkai star rail.

    • @y_strikes2770
      @y_strikes2770 Год назад +2

      Yikes

    • @ZincZXzinx
      @ZincZXzinx Год назад +3

      Her accent is the main thing that puts me off but I watch bcoz knowledge.

    • @jinmori7561
      @jinmori7561 Год назад +1

      But i quit tof

  • @chuuuves
    @chuuuves Год назад

    lost the 50/50, should I go for fenrir reissue or rubilla? I have fiona already

  • @SaderabinGaming
    @SaderabinGaming Год назад +1

    I still knew umi was the main dps

  • @stevenhack4041
    @stevenhack4041 Год назад

    Hello and thanks for the videos you make, they help a lot, I don't have umi, which trait would be better to use gnunno, fiona, claudia?

    • @Maygi
      @Maygi  Год назад +1

      If you have Fiona in the team, you should use her trait, period!

    • @stevenhack4041
      @stevenhack4041 Год назад

      @@Maygi Thank you, about matrices, I have 4 of habeola in fiona, x2 samir(3) x2 lyra, and scylla in claudia, okay? I am new and I like the physical team.

  • @urielguerra9146
    @urielguerra9146 Год назад

    Umi A5, Fiona A1, Gunono A0 (coming soon A1) I think it's a good composition.
    But as for the matrices I use with crow and Samir, is Samir and shiro better? Since with Fiona I have 4/4 of shiro so I have doubts about that

  • @nocap7223
    @nocap7223 Год назад

    how to do rotation with с3 lin correctly in altered team, I constantly have a field with a cooldown of 3 seconds, because of this I lose a lot of time. if I stay on gunono longer, then the tentacle stacks end. with any layouts with с3 lin, there is no normal rotation, or maybe I don't understand something?

  • @pharalis
    @pharalis Год назад

    Hi, Gnonno 3, Umi 6 and Fiona 3 here. Could you please try to be so kind to let me understand why you use Umi skill and immediately stop doing Gnonno discharge? Thanks 💜

    • @Maygi
      @Maygi  Год назад

      As mentioned in the disclaimers, there was a bug with Umi main DPS in the test server that made it unplayable. However, Umi main DPS at A6 is actually better to use than Gnonno. I'll be uploading a follow-up rotation guide shortly ~

    • @pharalis
      @pharalis Год назад

      @@Maygi thanks 💜🦆

  • @godworm7705
    @godworm7705 Год назад +1

    Hi Maygi, I think UmiC6 can be Main dps in phy comp and Gunono will be sub dps. What do you think? :))

  • @bitwise-dev
    @bitwise-dev Год назад

    For someone who skipped Fiona is Lin Umi Guno good or Claudia Umi Guno is better all A6? Ready to take the hardest rotation but no idea how for these lineup.

  • @kennethlsj
    @kennethlsj Год назад

    Why not annabella with lan gnonno you charge really fast with annabella and you have two ammo units with flamereso and balance reso to buff both flame and phy you also get grievous on the flame team.

  • @greg3967
    @greg3967 Год назад +1

    May, for Altered Team, which better for altered comp team , is it Fiona/Lin/Gnunno or Fiona/Lin/Claudia ?

    • @Maygi
      @Maygi  Год назад +2

      Gnonno provides much more damage than Claudia (it's a completely different damage focus, doing mainly physical damage), though the Claudia altered team is still useful for sequential

    • @saddany3254
      @saddany3254 Год назад +1

      Gunonoo altered you're doing mostly physical damage (same with fenrir altered). With Claudia, altered dmg is the main dmg sources with Claudia buffing alter dmg even more. So both of them has different use case.

    • @greg3967
      @greg3967 Год назад

      @@Maygi Thank you

  • @bytes021
    @bytes021 Год назад

    hello maygi so I managed to get lucky and I get Fiona and Lin both at A0 atm. I also now have Claudia at A2.. should i pull for gnono or should i pull for fiona and Lin instead? should I tried to A1 Fiona then A3 Lin?

    • @Maygi
      @Maygi  Год назад +1

      It's hard to recommend pulling Lin at this point. Gnonno is a pretty strong pickup, I'd pick her up then run Claudia + Fiona + GNN

  • @len355
    @len355 Год назад

    correct me if I am wrong or if I understand it correctly, but on phys team using claudia instead of umi, does it mean I am going to discharge using claudia instead of fiona?

    • @Maygi
      @Maygi  Год назад +1

      You want to use Claudia's discharge only half the time, because every time you do, you'll also gain charge with her skill, and end up discharging to Fiona as well, and won't be able to discharge into Gnonno. You'll alternate so then you can use Gnonno discharge and not run out of Octowhip.

    • @len355
      @len355 Год назад

      @@Maygi thanks! that was fast. :D

  • @akashi2921
    @akashi2921 Год назад

    umm isn't doing (umi/claudia/lyra) dischar first before fiona is better thn fiona dischar first becuz u want to trigger grevious eff?
    or alter explotion better?

    • @Maygi
      @Maygi  Год назад

      You have like permanent grievous anyway from GNN's hold attack so it's not an issue - also the reason you go to Fiona first is because you can use Fiona's skill at 99% charge without even reaching full charge, meaning you actually do proc Grievous on your other weapon anyway

    • @akashi2921
      @akashi2921 Год назад

      @@Maygi ok ok ty

  • @ranggaalyansaputra8775
    @ranggaalyansaputra8775 Год назад +1

    My copium: Zeke will be physical tank and physical final damage buffer 😌

    • @SimulDatCor
      @SimulDatCor Год назад +1

      I hope Garnett’s little brother will be another flame tank. Most likely going to be DPS but I need a flame tank that synergize well with Lan and Huma is not it.

    • @bytes021
      @bytes021 Год назад

      ​​@@SimulDatCor wish he was tank too so we can have vermillion squad lol

    • @SimulDatCor
      @SimulDatCor Год назад +1

      @@bytes021 we just need more tanks and supports in general. As of right now roles don’t really synergize well with each other. Most chars are just one man army DPS.

    • @bytes021
      @bytes021 Год назад

      @@SimulDatCor i think we also need content that really depend on their tank and support. tbh the eva raid and va is the only one i count heavy rely on tank and support

    • @SimulDatCor
      @SimulDatCor Год назад

      @@bytes021 indeed, which just points to the overall bigger problem of mis management of content pacing in this game. Adding more tanks and supports is only a temporary bandaid. In order to fix the root problem, they’d have to revamp the entire role system, rebalance all characters and re adjust the difficulty of enemies and mechanics. Of course that is far too late at this point in the game, so best they can do is shape the game in a way that benefits the current systems in place and the player’s interest in mind.

  • @SilverneilZZ
    @SilverneilZZ Год назад +1

    so Gunono literally useless on full phys comp (Umi,Gunono,Lyra/Claudia) ??

    • @Maygi
      @Maygi  Год назад +1

      Not useless, the rotation is just ultra awkward - it would work a lot better with Umi as main DPS, which we'll have to test when the servers go live tomorrow!

  • @kirukaku6612
    @kirukaku6612 Год назад

    I got Gnono in my first 10 pulls, should i go for fiona? I only have 60 more nucleous and my pity is at 40 :c

    • @Maygi
      @Maygi  Год назад +1

      If you don't have Fiona, definitely try to grab 1 copy! She does wonders for Physical because Maelstrom is so op ~

    • @kirukaku6612
      @kirukaku6612 Год назад

      @@Maygi THANK YOU SO MUCH!

  • @Azzu19etc
    @Azzu19etc Год назад

    dd lyra is gone ?

  • @sylveon-kn6gm
    @sylveon-kn6gm Год назад

    its her in all servers or its it in only one server ?

  • @Kytes93
    @Kytes93 Год назад +1

    what's "grievous"?

    • @Tsareena54i
      @Tsareena54i Год назад +3

      Its the passive exclusively for physical weapons. Like freeze for frost, burning for flame and paralyzed for volt. Grievous is for physical. It gives you a 20% dmg boost which is the best passive of all elements. You activate these passives by hitting enemies while having full charge on ur discharge

    • @Kytes93
      @Kytes93 Год назад +1

      @@Tsareena54i thank you very much, i forgot abot these effects

  • @satushidicehd4086
    @satushidicehd4086 Год назад +1

    15:32 volt still stronger than those two elements while on CN in this stage volt will be deadge and waiting rubillia comes out, they to broke fenrir what happened.

  • @00Jas0
    @00Jas0 Год назад

    could 4pc claudia still be relevant in gnonno altered team?

    • @Maygi
      @Maygi  Год назад +1

      Not really - it's not a discharge damage focused team, it's still essentially mainly focusing on Gnonno's output!

    • @00Jas0
      @00Jas0 Год назад

      @@Maygi Thanks!

  • @kasso1233
    @kasso1233 Год назад +1

    Does she surpass fenrir?

    • @Tsareena54i
      @Tsareena54i Год назад +1

      With some investment yes. And with investment i mean fiona. Claudia a6 or Umi A3. If you dont have Umi a3. Claudia a6 and Gunonno will outperform Fenrir.

  • @Laima17683
    @Laima17683 Год назад +2

    She is not versatile if Fiona is must to play her

    • @trysephiroth007
      @trysephiroth007 Год назад +2

      Every team is better with Fiona so that's not saying much

    • @Tsareena54i
      @Tsareena54i Год назад +1

      Meanwhile Lin was a must for every comp when she 1st released. And Fiona replaced lin in almost any comp

  • @InedibleSushi
    @InedibleSushi Год назад

    Would A0 be worth it over A6 shiro (currently A6 Shiro, A3 Fiona, A6 Claudia)?
    If not i‘m ditching phys alltogether.

    • @Tsareena54i
      @Tsareena54i Год назад +1

      That should be the case since Gunonno has good charge and good shatter. Also shiro is kinda clunky to use bc of her long cd on her skill and bad discharge.

  • @the7observer
    @the7observer Год назад

    Motorized shiro :P

  • @Crazmuss
    @Crazmuss Год назад +1

    Whonono?

  • @lilzael
    @lilzael Год назад +1

    no! i can't beleive you're quitting!

  • @FrenzyChaos
    @FrenzyChaos Год назад +3

    First :)

  • @jeffery_pentest5201
    @jeffery_pentest5201 Год назад +3

    Is gnnuno worth at c0 ??

    • @LunaBlanche7328
      @LunaBlanche7328 Год назад +2

      16:37 should be good enough.

    • @Tsareena54i
      @Tsareena54i Год назад +1

      She is the most f2p phys unit out of all. (Finally). But it still depends on your support weapons. Fiona is fine at A0 but either Umi needs to be a3 or your Claudia needs to be a6. Umi is a must at a3. But claudia is usable at a1. However the more advancements you have on claudia the stronger gnonno becomes

  • @Rin._._
    @Rin._._ Год назад +4

    i know 100% they will pull a fen situation with rubilia this games power creep is getting ridiculous

  • @Stinger32
    @Stinger32 Год назад

    wow need a6 for dmg , guess physical will be forever dead

  • @DenisRozenk
    @DenisRozenk Год назад +1

    Nice Gunono rotations, team variations, shieldbreak/damage/offfield/grievUtility. All good. But. That spraying pink sh*t with white number explosions over all screen... Eugh, that dev colorist must have some pink trauma to push that much PINK for Ice-Volt-Phys in male-oriented game. -_-