Omg thank you!! I recently pulled zeke despite being volt main (cuz husbando reasons lol) and didn't know what to run him with. Thankfully I have fiona and claudia so I can enjoy his playstyle with them. Awesome video!
I pulled Fiona, Frigg, a second copy of Samir and Shiro yesterday. Suffice to say I will be maining Fiona, she is incredible! I definitely want Yu Lan, but Zeke is starting to pique my interest. Newbie as well, playing on PS5. Thanks for the video!
@@SpartanSolidusSolidus-mi6mk Nice choice! Altered characters are versatile that you can pair them with any element. If you end up with Zeke you can go with a decent starter team with Zeke, Fiona and Claudia/Shiro. Meta Frost team right now would be Yulan, Fiona and Alyss(A1) or if you like Frigg you can replace Alyss with her.
Newbie here, I pulled A1 zeke, his 2 piece, a liu hou and a Fiona. They’re so good they got me to be rank 3-4 in bygone for a while. Granted the whales have overtaken me now
Hello, really nice video but I wondered about something and I cant figure out. You do 50% of your damage as "others" with the Claudia, FIona, Zeke comp ( I use the same one ), When I literally do the same things as you, I get arround 25-30%... What am I missing?
cactus test a bit weird. why use relics? smart servant should not be included as they do not get buffed in content like VA6 and probably OOW. no maelstrom on phys character (maybe even something like vortex if using claudia matrixes or wellspring)?
Good questions! 2 minute and 30 second parses on cactus are actually meant to emulate a bygone phantasm run and that's why we used 2 relics and kept the smart servant on. (This is actually how it should be done from now on) Meanwhile, Maelstrom is used for comps where the main dps stays on hand for at least 10 seconds. The teams that I showcased here requires you to swap the weapons around so we won't be able to bring out the best on maelstrom. Sticking to Torrential Force is usually the better option, anyways.
@@TouchMeNot22 i questioned the use of smart servant because it seems like they do not really have much aoe dmg. maybe against bosses it would be ok but in mobbing floors, the smart servant might have negligible dmg. it just feels like smart servants inflate the cactus dmg test a bit. (nvm ignore this part) maybe there could be a rotation where you do stay on zeke for like 20 seconds. the a3 and a6 buffs from claudia would run out but in turn you make up with the maelstrom buff. i am thinking a rotation like zeke 20s with 2 full bars of charge > claudia discharge + skill > fiona discharge + skill > zeke (maelstrom might not be up but you can still use it whenever it is a good time). i think torrential is not that good in zeke claudia team because 12% extra dmg for skill is not that useful since zeke's dmg is mainly normal attack dmg. torrential is still good for altered team. (ignore what i said) edit: maelstrom seems to be bad when using zeke trait.
@@exarex9697 Yeah, the servants do inflate the overall damage by around 5-6% that one aside your point on maelstrom is sound. I might try that out when I have the time for more tests. Thanks for the very engaging input!!
@@TouchMeNot22 nvm i take back what i said. i got around to my own testing. i have a6 claudia, a1 zeke, a6 fiona. matrixes are 2* 4pc claudia, 3* 2pc shiro 0* 2pc zeke, 0* 4pc fiona. for me, it turns out, the hydro focus + torrential did same dmg as hydro focus + vortex. your case might be different. when using zeke trait, maelstrom apparently is not that good for me (maybe my timing was bad). i got 281 with maelstrom and 315 for both torrential and vortex. looks like you were right all along.
The team can work even at A0 and seeing that all 3 of them are the most latest characters, I'd say that it will be better if not on par with the teams that I showcased.
I am playing Yulan A1, Frigg A1, 3rd slot depends Fenrir A1, Zero A5 or Coco A6, should i get zeke or fiona? i know meta is probably fiona. but do they have a huge difference?
Yeah it's about who's going to have more synergy on your team. With Yulan & Fenrir both at A1, dps wise the only option you have is to bench frigg and go for rainbow comp. Fortunately either of the two will work for your 3rd slot on a rainbow team so the deciding factor would be what play style would you like best.
@@akasuna91 You actually can since you have Yu Lan and Frigg. Alyss would be a good 3rd slot for a mono-frost team with them but you're gonna need atleast A1. You can run Yu Lan, Frigg and Fiona as well, it's still a frost team all the same. It's just that Frigg is an older weapon so at A1 she won't be anywhere on par with A1 Fenrir.
@@TouchMeNot22 I see. Yeah I liked frigg last time she was released but I only have a0. I bought a1 after she went standard. Will consider the other option as well
Fiona A4 would only be base stat increase A3 would be a good stopping point so if I were to pick then Zeke. You got a lot of weapons there, are you planning on building teams for all elements?
@@TouchMeNot22 yeah seems like that,.. Right now i can build team lyn + fio + elemen char (usually i use fenrir as altered volt, Liu altered flame, and yulan altered frost) and i can go to fen, saki, lyn too,... But i lack in physical team, even i have Claudia but its seems very weak in recent physical standart team or altered physical,.. Thats why if i get zeke is that the right decisions?
@@wahyutrisna2104 I haven't yet grasped the proper way to bring out zekes damage. I tried them on sequential and: A1 Fiona, A0 Zeke, A6 Lin - 2600pts A1 Fiona, A6 Claudia, A6 Lin - 2700pts Basically altered with Claudia is still better if not on par with Altered Zeke when I did my runs but like I said I still might have some skill issues with Zeke.
Hi! Somebody pointed out the same concerns so I'll just copy pasta my answer: 2 minute and 30 second parses on cactus are actually meant to emulate a bygone phantasm run and that's why we used 2 relics and kept the smart servant on. (This is actually how it should be done from now on) Meanwhile, Maelstrom is used for comps where the main dps stays on hand for at least 10 seconds. The teams that I showcased here requires you to swap the weapons around so we won't be able to bring out the best on maelstrom. Sticking to Torrential Force is usually the better option, anyways.
@TouchMeNot22 I can't see visible trait as it's collapsed but I hope it was Zeke. And try wellspring. The extra charge brings nothing to these comps. For maelstrom you want at least 20 seconds of on field time or rotations get weird
@@WillOfDee oh yeah the trait I used was zeke's, I forgot to mention it. There are talks of Fiona's being better but with the way I'm using basic attacks a lot, zeke's trait is bound to be better. I'll give wellspring a shot, thanks!
@@FuzFuz Oooh that's what you meant. I feel so dumb haha, anyways thank you for pointing this out. I think it's about time I put subtitles for each video now. I'll work on them from the latest 🍻
I found the zeke guide that can explain his skill in a simplest form and easy to understand. Thank you so much!
Omg thank you!! I recently pulled zeke despite being volt main (cuz husbando reasons lol) and didn't know what to run him with. Thankfully I have fiona and claudia so I can enjoy his playstyle with them. Awesome video!
Newbie here. I pulled both Zeke and Fiona today and they are so good 😭😭😭
Welcome to the game! You went with 2 characters that both have execute. Living up to the title of executor, I see xD
I pulled Fiona, Frigg, a second copy of Samir and Shiro yesterday. Suffice to say I will be maining Fiona, she is incredible! I definitely want Yu Lan, but Zeke is starting to pique my interest. Newbie as well, playing on PS5. Thanks for the video!
@@SpartanSolidusSolidus-mi6mkmake sure to only spend dark crystals on limited banners only as the newer characters are usually better.
@@SpartanSolidusSolidus-mi6mk Nice choice! Altered characters are versatile that you can pair them with any element. If you end up with Zeke you can go with a decent starter team with Zeke, Fiona and Claudia/Shiro. Meta Frost team right now would be Yulan, Fiona and Alyss(A1) or if you like Frigg you can replace Alyss with her.
I only got Walmart Diluc and some fire Shota. 💀
i feel like zekes finisher skill is a reason why we should must pull, so satisfying to see the mini bosses drop like flies
I've been running Zeke, Lan, and Liu Huo. Great flame comp.
Same
@@shinsukesama8665 the only thing that stinks is Zeke doesn't work in the flame Sequential, but I have Fiona for that.
Is zeke lan liu better than fiona lan liu?
Newbie here, I pulled A1 zeke, his 2 piece, a liu hou and a Fiona. They’re so good they got me to be rank 3-4 in bygone for a while. Granted the whales have overtaken me now
Thank you for showing altered comp. I kept dying in sequential (skill issue) I will try again with this comp
He looks fun, but I‘ll skip him since I went from no Fiona to a6. She‘s fun ✨
Just got her a5 but I’m gonna just drop some extra money plus some of the free pulls on his banner from here on out and then I’ll be op as fuck lmao
Fiona is beteer ?
You're missing out Zeke's 1 shot execute skill.
Plus new alter mommy coming out soon.
I finished Bygone with this rotation, except using the Selfless Realm at the end, thank you
Not yet get him cuz miss Pity. So far in Training mode he is quite good.
Zeke Execute is god dmn op
I cleared Phantasm so fast lol
Mini boss instant death w that skill
I finished all towers just by using A0 zeke
Is good idea change Fiona for Zero ? (I just have permanent banner charecters and Zeke)
Papa Ming is huge revelation for my physics team 😉
Hello, really nice video but I wondered about something and I cant figure out. You do 50% of your damage as "others" with the Claudia, FIona, Zeke comp ( I use the same one ), When I literally do the same things as you, I get arround 25-30%... What am I missing?
Probably the smart servant? I have it equipped so a huge chunk of damage comes from it.
What skill did you used on Fiona's skill with the Torrential Force?
Ah yes, it was Hydro Focus ✨
@@TouchMeNot22 thanks
cactus test a bit weird. why use relics? smart servant should not be included as they do not get buffed in content like VA6 and probably OOW. no maelstrom on phys character (maybe even something like vortex if using claudia matrixes or wellspring)?
Good questions! 2 minute and 30 second parses on cactus are actually meant to emulate a bygone phantasm run and that's why we used 2 relics and kept the smart servant on. (This is actually how it should be done from now on)
Meanwhile, Maelstrom is used for comps where the main dps stays on hand for at least 10 seconds. The teams that I showcased here requires you to swap the weapons around so we won't be able to bring out the best on maelstrom. Sticking to Torrential Force is usually the better option, anyways.
@@TouchMeNot22 i questioned the use of smart servant because it seems like they do not really have much aoe dmg. maybe against bosses it would be ok but in mobbing floors, the smart servant might have negligible dmg. it just feels like smart servants inflate the cactus dmg test a bit.
(nvm ignore this part) maybe there could be a rotation where you do stay on zeke for like 20 seconds. the a3 and a6 buffs from claudia would run out but in turn you make up with the maelstrom buff. i am thinking a rotation like zeke 20s with 2 full bars of charge > claudia discharge + skill > fiona discharge + skill > zeke (maelstrom might not be up but you can still use it whenever it is a good time). i think torrential is not that good in zeke claudia team because 12% extra dmg for skill is not that useful since zeke's dmg is mainly normal attack dmg. torrential is still good for altered team. (ignore what i said)
edit: maelstrom seems to be bad when using zeke trait.
@@exarex9697 Yeah, the servants do inflate the overall damage by around 5-6% that one aside your point on maelstrom is sound. I might try that out when I have the time for more tests. Thanks for the very engaging input!!
@@TouchMeNot22 nvm i take back what i said. i got around to my own testing. i have a6 claudia, a1 zeke, a6 fiona. matrixes are 2* 4pc claudia, 3* 2pc shiro 0* 2pc zeke, 0* 4pc fiona. for me, it turns out, the hydro focus + torrential did same dmg as hydro focus + vortex. your case might be different. when using zeke trait, maelstrom apparently is not that good for me (maybe my timing was bad). i got 281 with maelstrom and 315 for both torrential and vortex. looks like you were right all along.
how he is able to do this huge damage? I also tried and he one shotted everyone in the tower..is this damage only specific to 1-1 challenges?
do you think Fiona, Zeke, gunonno a0 is better than your Claudia, Fiona, Zeke and Lin , Fiona, Zeke combs ?
The team can work even at A0 and seeing that all 3 of them are the most latest characters, I'd say that it will be better if not on par with the teams that I showcased.
I am playing Yulan A1, Frigg A1, 3rd slot depends Fenrir A1, Zero A5 or Coco A6, should i get zeke or fiona? i know meta is probably fiona. but do they have a huge difference?
Yeah it's about who's going to have more synergy on your team. With Yulan & Fenrir both at A1, dps wise the only option you have is to bench frigg and go for rainbow comp. Fortunately either of the two will work for your 3rd slot on a rainbow team so the deciding factor would be what play style would you like best.
@@TouchMeNot22 oh so frost team won't work with my current weapons? I might need to check more on their playstyles too. Thanks!
@@akasuna91 You actually can since you have Yu Lan and Frigg. Alyss would be a good 3rd slot for a mono-frost team with them but you're gonna need atleast A1. You can run Yu Lan, Frigg and Fiona as well, it's still a frost team all the same. It's just that Frigg is an older weapon so at A1 she won't be anywhere on par with A1 Fenrir.
@@TouchMeNot22 I see. Yeah I liked frigg last time she was released but I only have a0. I bought a1 after she went standard. Will consider the other option as well
Zeke A0 or fiona A4? Right now i also have lyn A6, fenrir A6, liu A1, yulan A1, while claudia still A5,.. So which one should i choose, zeke or fiona?
Fiona A4 would only be base stat increase A3 would be a good stopping point so if I were to pick then Zeke. You got a lot of weapons there, are you planning on building teams for all elements?
@@TouchMeNot22 yeah seems like that,.. Right now i can build team lyn + fio + elemen char (usually i use fenrir as altered volt, Liu altered flame, and yulan altered frost) and i can go to fen, saki, lyn too,... But i lack in physical team, even i have Claudia but its seems very weak in recent physical standart team or altered physical,.. Thats why if i get zeke is that the right decisions?
@@wahyutrisna2104 I haven't yet grasped the proper way to bring out zekes damage. I tried them on sequential and:
A1 Fiona, A0 Zeke, A6 Lin - 2600pts
A1 Fiona, A6 Claudia, A6 Lin - 2700pts
Basically altered with Claudia is still better if not on par with Altered Zeke when I did my runs but like I said I still might have some skill issues with Zeke.
@@TouchMeNot22 i see, thanks for the reply,..now i have a picture in my head that what should i do,..thanks for ur oppinion
Does Zeke heals and how?
How were all drops visible in your map even though you were far away?
That was due to upgrading the (Wings) vermillion statue to level 6. It has that kind of effect ✨
@@TouchMeNot22 Thanks for telling. I'll probably upgrade this statue to max first 🙌
How are you lvl 95? Is that pc aversion
Yes, global pc version.
Do I say goodbye to Mimi fund? haha.
If you really like his kit and have a functional physical team then go for it. Otherwise you're just gonna use him for the execute 💀
Your parse data is so scuffed. You chose poorly for the fiona subskills. You had your pet out.
Hi! Somebody pointed out the same concerns so I'll just copy pasta my answer:
2 minute and 30 second parses on cactus are actually meant to emulate a bygone phantasm run and that's why we used 2 relics and kept the smart servant on. (This is actually how it should be done from now on)
Meanwhile, Maelstrom is used for comps where the main dps stays on hand for at least 10 seconds. The teams that I showcased here requires you to swap the weapons around so we won't be able to bring out the best on maelstrom. Sticking to Torrential Force is usually the better option, anyways.
@TouchMeNot22 I can't see visible trait as it's collapsed but I hope it was Zeke. And try wellspring. The extra charge brings nothing to these comps.
For maelstrom you want at least 20 seconds of on field time or rotations get weird
@@WillOfDee oh yeah the trait I used was zeke's, I forgot to mention it. There are talks of Fiona's being better but with the way I'm using basic attacks a lot, zeke's trait is bound to be better. I'll give wellspring a shot, thanks!
Subs?
For fiona you mean? Its:
Main skill - Hydro focus
Sub skill - Torrential Force
@@TouchMeNot22 no, captions to understand what you say for non-native english speakers 😅
@@FuzFuz Oooh that's what you meant. I feel so dumb haha, anyways thank you for pointing this out. I think it's about time I put subtitles for each video now. I'll work on them from the latest 🍻
@@TouchMeNot22Thanks! I struggle to understand the exact conditions for the realm to appear (I just spam and things happen lol)