I would argue every single legacy character that came as dlc was balanced in tekken 7 they only really messed up the new ones. Is going to be the same here, but thats normal i guess, designing a whole new character is insane in tekken, its forgivable imo, but launch leroy was the only one, that was outright broken on purpose and i hope they do not do that again,
I feel like there's a thematic element to the design of Heihachi. Reina is younger, smaller and more athletic. So she's faster, evasive and overwhelming inheriting Tekken 7 Hei's bulldog playstyle with the focus on jabs, pokes and then stance mixups. Heihachi is older and wiser (also got a fist to the chest). He's gotten slower but also powered up and is stronger. You have to be patient with punishment and his just frame charge moves. He trades his original rushdown for very strong combo damage and warrior instinct.
Yeah, I think at least is 11 could still be -2 or 3 and be fine with his new design. His df1 has many mind games off it that makes it alright still but 11 being -5 kinda sucks.
I'm honestly surprised they didn't give him another beefy low or a low poke, considering how they keep changing every character's archetype and making them all-rounders. But I guess they just gave him a stance game
One thing missing, is that he has an auto parry in heat. Very useful to use to close rounds or stop people from mashing when going into his stance from f3 or f4. I also love to do ws4,4 into stance. Hits people every time.
Very good breakdown agreed with most of the things mentioned. Did want to add that from thunder stance if in heat and you use the d3 option you can press 2 to do the heat version for extra dmg should they duck and seeing as guard break and hellsweeps come from it then that’s very likely unless they just straight up interrupt your attacks.
I honestly think he would be a much better character if he was more solid outside of Warrior's Instinct and as compensation, WI is nerfed. It feels like they made him weaker in normal state for the sake of him having a potential 75-25 chance of winning your Instinct round which makes the character feel so incomplete in design. I would rather the gimmick not exist entirely and instead get a complete, solid package personally but it is what it is. At times I wonder how much I enjoy this Heihachi even because he is so dramatically different than T7 Heihachi. The execution and punishment or combo freedom (carry + damage) feels great but the lack of neutral freedom (easily steppable and committal pokes) feels awful.
Been a Hwoa main forever and I'm having more fun with Hei at the moment too! Not sure if he's a bit overtuned due to DLC syndrome, but either way the design has been done really well.
the evasion heat move could be use for a get out jail free card when you are running out of heat from the start n not plus in the neutral but yea it looks useless other than that
Another thing I think makes heihachi hard is the fact that even if you have amazing timing with him if you can’t electric it feels like just having timing is not anywhere near enough to make him work he needs everything from the player to really make him shine
@@afoolorclown no one else on the cast requires everything from the player to make the character shine? Legitimate teaching opportunity for the slow Tekken casual.
6:55 I think I just discovered something ( I’m not sure if you know it but it’s not mentioned here ) during the wind god stance you can actually hold ( forward + down ) then press two and it gives you a free EWGF 😂 I just did it in training mode Awesome breakdown btw
Heihachi T7 is different to T8. Heihachi had 2 stances and warrior instinct was too amazing. I think you'll better play with Heihachi in the next tournament.
Heihachi has been so much fun, I think he is quite balanced with his warrior instinct bringing his more agressive style for one round, anyway, they should nerf devil Jin in the next patch
if only heihachi got 1 fast homing with decent range I think he's strong.. Hei T8 is strong when play defensive coz when you got 1 chance to lunch them its back to square one..
I'm a yoshi main and picked him up with never played with a Mishima the hardest thing to get down is those electric. For any other yoshi main I'm thinking it's the same as the ff 2/2 string timing just different inputs
@@daro375 thank you for your answer! :) I’m in mighty ruler so DB2 could work, but I fear it will develop to a bad habit if I start using it to often now.
@@beefysouls9329 No problem! :) in that case you can even do hellsweep hellsweep and hellsweep ws4 as a double mix. It works wonders in blue ranks as well so go for it. I would recommend doing that over using db2 tbh if you're fearing developing a bad habit.
It is so fascinating to see Tekken 8 dlc fighter are balanced in launch. Compared go to Tekken 7 dlc, lol.
They learned their lesson hopefully
yes 1130 combo dmg balanced
I would argue every single legacy character that came as dlc was balanced in tekken 7 they only really messed up the new ones. Is going to be the same here, but thats normal i guess, designing a whole new character is insane in tekken, its forgivable imo, but launch leroy was the only one, that was outright broken on purpose and i hope they do not do that again,
@@Tk.Bogartswho doesnt in this game? Lol
Heihachi was always a high damage/high execution character, there is nothing new about that @@Tk.Bogarts
The old man is so fun to play with. I'm nowhere as good as you but I make him work ❤
Definitely would like more content like this
I didn't think I would like him as much as T7 I am really enjoying his gameplay. Love the charge moves but, I really miss the Omen launcher.
Funny that regular thunder god fist in warrior instinct mode is an actual launcher that can be comboed into ff2
@@crystaleater2581 its just frame so completely unreliable
I feel like there's a thematic element to the design of Heihachi.
Reina is younger, smaller and more athletic. So she's faster, evasive and overwhelming inheriting Tekken 7 Hei's bulldog playstyle with the focus on jabs, pokes and then stance mixups.
Heihachi is older and wiser (also got a fist to the chest). He's gotten slower but also powered up and is stronger. You have to be patient with punishment and his just frame charge moves. He trades his original rushdown for very strong combo damage and warrior instinct.
Bro, Heihachi seems mad hard to play. Glad to see they didn't dumb him down like Dragunov.
Yeah, I think at least is 11 could still be -2 or 3 and be fine with his new design. His df1 has many mind games off it that makes it alright still but 11 being -5 kinda sucks.
I’m just not really a huge fan of this heiachi man. I just loved the simplicity of the older versions. He looks sick tho
Yes please do content like this! I'd love your input on Oki and what to do with heis oki!
I'm honestly surprised they didn't give him another beefy low or a low poke, considering how they keep changing every character's archetype and making them all-rounders. But I guess they just gave him a stance game
The fact that shadow step uses the entire heat bar is the ultimate buff to its BM value
Would love to see a counter heihachi video. Like ways to best common moves and set ups he does
SSL all his moves except b4 that you ssr, GG you win
Thanks, it's cool if you make more videos like that. About Feng like example 😊
One thing missing, is that he has an auto parry in heat. Very useful to use to close rounds or stop people from mashing when going into his stance from f3 or f4. I also love to do ws4,4 into stance. Hits people every time.
Isn’t ws44 into stance still -15 before the parry?
Ofcourse every new character needs an auto parry mechanic to, cause tekken 8 is for noobs.
@0kills it is -15, but if you got into stance while in heat it will still parry.
Very good breakdown agreed with most of the things mentioned. Did want to add that from thunder stance if in heat and you use the d3 option you can press 2 to do the heat version for extra dmg should they duck and seeing as guard break and hellsweeps come from it then that’s very likely unless they just straight up interrupt your attacks.
I'm just happy they gave him the alt input for the electric, makes it easier for a scrub like me :v
Thank for your thoughts 😊
7:17 devil jin also got the perfect electric change
Love this video 😍😍🥰! Youre my favorite tekken player! 😜☺️☺️😍😍 keep it up! ❤❤
Great vid. I really miss his oppressive offence, though. It's what made play him in 7 lol.
11:13 Actually even Devil Jin can do an i13 EWGF now. This changed very recently with the latest patch!
Hold up did I hear that right? Over 1000 games in rank? I’ve only played 4500 games since this game released 💀
He's a pro player obv hes gonna grind the new character
@@leonflorence118 yeah no shit, still a crazy amount of games tho.
That's about 140 matches a day , crazy amount
@@EggscellentTreeeven if all the games were 3-0’s that’s so much time 😩
I honestly think he would be a much better character if he was more solid outside of Warrior's Instinct and as compensation, WI is nerfed. It feels like they made him weaker in normal state for the sake of him having a potential 75-25 chance of winning your Instinct round which makes the character feel so incomplete in design. I would rather the gimmick not exist entirely and instead get a complete, solid package personally but it is what it is. At times I wonder how much I enjoy this Heihachi even because he is so dramatically different than T7 Heihachi. The execution and punishment or combo freedom (carry + damage) feels great but the lack of neutral freedom (easily steppable and committal pokes) feels awful.
Been a Hwoa main forever and I'm having more fun with Hei at the moment too! Not sure if he's a bit overtuned due to DLC syndrome, but either way the design has been done really well.
the evasion heat move could be use for a get out jail free card when you are running out of heat from the start n not plus in the neutral but yea it looks useless other than that
Another thing I think makes heihachi hard is the fact that even if you have amazing timing with him if you can’t electric it feels like just having timing is not anywhere near enough to make him work he needs everything from the player to really make him shine
Like every character?
@@Jetanium does every character require an electric to compete in neutral? No
@@Jetaniumyou are so slow lmao
@@afoolorclown no one else on the cast requires everything from the player to make the character shine? Legitimate teaching opportunity for the slow Tekken casual.
You think players like the joke has problem doing electrics
6:55 I think I just discovered something ( I’m not sure if you know it but it’s not mentioned here ) during the wind god stance you can actually hold ( forward + down ) then press two and it gives you a free EWGF 😂 I just did it in training mode
Awesome breakdown btw
I think his sweep from crouch having a clean hit is a super nerf also
Heihachi T7 is different to T8. Heihachi had 2 stances and warrior instinct was too amazing. I think you'll better play with Heihachi in the next tournament.
Let's go!!!
Great review thanks, I also enjoy him more then Reina !
I would like a video on how to approach enemies with heihachi and how to use his ch4 in situations
Heihachi has been so much fun, I think he is quite balanced with his warrior instinct bringing his more agressive style for one round, anyway, they should nerf devil Jin in the next patch
B4 should have never been a safe, hoaming, ch launch, wall splatting mid. That was egregious
Hi, Do u play on ds4 controller? if yes do i need an adapter to connect it with my ps5?? thanks
Sick video👌🏽 heihachi the goat
He is probably mid tier for sure. He is very linear. Also weak low. He is very high risk high reward type.
Similar to Paul for sure. Lacking in neutral prowess, but has absurdly high comeback potential.
@@FahmiZFXpaul is way better than hei
@@FahmiZFXpaul has insane neutral control in the first place, his strength isn’t making comebacks
I think heihachi could be the weakest character in the game
Found the hei downplay
How minus is ub2?
if only heihachi got 1 fast homing with decent range I think he's strong.. Hei T8 is strong when play defensive coz when you got 1 chance to lunch them its back to square one..
I miss the old voice 😢
To me it doesn't feel like its Heihachi because of animations, he looks too different from all of his past games.
So like mainmanswe said, more defense less offense. I do see it in your gameplay too. Not much df1,1 and f4 compared to Tekken 7
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Best character, but still hard to play. Warrior instinct is broken.
I wish either 1,1 or df1 were -1 or -3 :/
ub2 ? like, I don't see any reason to use this at wall instead of b4
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Hi Joka
I'm a yoshi main and picked him up with never played with a Mishima the hardest thing to get down is those electric. For any other yoshi main I'm thinking it's the same as the ff 2/2 string timing just different inputs
What do you all use for Oki Mixups? :)
Single hellsweep and f4. If you're in intermediate or in the lower ranks you could use db2 as well for the low
@@daro375 thank you for your answer! :) I’m in mighty ruler so DB2 could work, but I fear it will develop to a bad habit if I start using it to often now.
@@beefysouls9329 No problem! :) in that case you can even do hellsweep hellsweep and hellsweep ws4 as a double mix. It works wonders in blue ranks as well so go for it. I would recommend doing that over using db2 tbh if you're fearing developing a bad habit.
I want see your King pleaseeee
What do you think of using Ff 1+2 in the neutral? Is it good in your opinion?
Bro heihachi vs lili is absurd you can't do shit against her all of heihachi moves whiffs to a small side step by her
So having a guard break move is becoming a trend in this boring ass game! Imagine the difference between taunt jet upper and this!
His model looks weird. Too wide.
Get your eyes checked