@@Kalinggapurait’s a play on words when you see someone say Finnish instead of finish in a video like this talking about these 2 languages and similar videos on Finnish or whatever down to it it’s a type of joke
yes, surprisingly, in Quenya “in heaven” it will be “-esse menel”, and in Moksha it will be “menel’sa” (in the Moksha language the suffix -sa means “in”)
That’s true because Moksha as a language is much closer to Finnish than Hungarian, but when the Hungarians started migrating towards Europe, they had significant contact with Volga- Finnic peoples. Including the Mokshas.
In a hotel pub, a not so sober guy is trying to hit a not so sober woman: "Hey honey, perhaps you are hungry?" "No Hungary, I'm Finnish!" "You finish? So, what's next, your room or mine?"
@@forgottenmusic1 believe it or not, but I used a Hung(a)ry joke on Whatsapp with my crush years ago that made her text a long laugh, just because she wrote “aer” instead of “are”
Yes because attaturk founded the first dynasties of China. The sinnitic languages are a branch of turkic which are descendanted from anatolian turkey turk turkish turkic
No, it’s not. all numbers from 1 to 10 are preserved from the Proto-Uralic language (with the exception of 10, where moksha/finnish - kemon’/kymmenen is from Proto-Finno-Volga) therefore it is very similar to Finnish and other Uralic languages. although in some Uralic languages the number 10 was borrowed from Indo-European languages in Komi/Udmurt - das, in Hungarian - tíz
@@oitakaikille2330 Well , as a Bengali-speaker , I found those quite similar to Bengali numbers . 1 - Yksi - Ek 5 - Viisi - Vete - Pach ( Pas and Fas in some dialects ) 6 - Kuusi - Kota - Sas , Sat ( Sanskrit ) [ K to S transition is not uncommon among languages ] 7 - Seitseman - Sisem - Shat , Shopto , Shoptom (Bengali) , Sapta , Saptam (Sanskrit) I'm not saying these numbers are borrowings from Indo-European or Uralic and Indo-European are related . Probably these similarities are just coincidence .
@@Morshed2005Thank you for comparison. Often comparing modern languages show similarities that are not historical, because often forms in modern languages have gone through many sound changes during thousands of years. For example Moksha shows in number 5 part *te* , which is older than Finnish *si* . Finnish word *viisi* has inflectional forms like *viitenä* , in which *nä* is essive case ending and *viite* is the root meaning '5'. So, we can see in inflection older form and do internal reconstrunction that is in line with comparing related languages like Moksha. PS. Finnish ordinal number for 1 is *ensimmäinen* 'first', and in colloquial speech it is shortened to *eka* . Looks familiar to you, doesn't it? For 2 the ordinal number is *toinen* 'second', and its shortened form is *toka* . Now we could connect this element *to* easily to Indo-European root meaning 2. But (probably) these are just coincidences.
The flag consists of three horizontal stripes: crimson - symbolizing joy and celebration, white - symbolizing spiritual purity and purity of thoughts, and black - symbolizing the native land and the memory of ancestors. In the center of the panel is a solar sign, symbolizing, according to the authors, liberation
Sound of Finic is so characteristic and nice. I like it! It is helpful in PIE reconstruct. Some parts of the Lord's Prayer have old Indoeuropean influences. Taivasi- debesis(latvian), Dievas dyaus, etc. Patre nos jek esi Deivesi... Coby Wám Maluśki Pán Jezus w Nowym Roku błogosławił. Best wishes for New Year: ruclips.net/video/mD80byisLuw/видео.htmlfeature=shared
It's another language family, it comes from northern russia, near the ural mountains, which makes it very funny when you think about where hungarian currently is spoken
No one really knows where Uralic peoples come from, but theories range from the Volga and Ob rivers to the Ural and Sayan mountains. Uralic languages are not related to Indo-European languages, but have a lot of loanwords from them.
@@aitokoojii1462 The Indo-European loans are in general no older than from the Finno-Ugric period though, loanwords included in most of the Uralic languages including the Samoyedic languages are very rare.
Mordovians Erzya are closer to Finns than Moksha, genetically and linguistically. Moksha have small% Mongoloid heritage, while Mordovian Erzya are more similar to Europeans than Russians in Russia. Googling Vladimir Mineev mma fighter photos, his father Erzya, and Alex Ovechkin have mother Shoksha - it’s small group of Erzya with unique dialect
When it comes to autosomal DNA, Mokshas show homogeneity with Erzyas. But if talking about minor differences, Erzyas are really bit closer to Baltic-Finnic populations, while Mokshas are showing some shift to Balto-Slavic populations. Source is Tambets, Kristiina "Genes reveal traces of common recent demographic history for most of the Uralic-speaking populations" (2018).
In Buddhism, you reach your Finnish line when you achieve Moksha
"Moksha" is originally a Hindu idea .
Moksha is Indic idea, found in all Indic religions: Sanatana, Budhism, Jainism.
Finnish??
You mean finish line?
@@Kalinggapura It's a pun.
@@Kalinggapurait’s a play on words when you see someone say Finnish instead of finish in a video like this talking about these 2 languages and similar videos on Finnish or whatever down to it it’s a type of joke
Menel'sa = in heaven.
I think I know where Quenya menel came from. Not Finnish, but Moksha.
yes, surprisingly, in Quenya “in heaven” it will be “-esse menel”, and in Moksha it will be “menel’sa”
(in the Moksha language the suffix -sa means “in”)
In Hungarian heaven is menny. In heaven is mennyben.
Ah, thank you,@@mysteriousDSF!
I did not know.
@@oitakaikille2330 menelessë in fact
Or with a poetic shortened ending, meneldë
What about to compare Erzya and Moksha
i see a bit of similarities with moksha and hungarian
Hungarian and Mosksha are both uralic language.
Great video thanks for sharring.
Andy, this was my Christmas Wish oh my god how did you know?
Thank you 🙏🏻.
What I understanded
Finnish : 100%
Moksha 10%
Are you finnish ??
The similarities between Finnish and Hungarian were shown.
That’s true because Moksha as a language is much closer to Finnish than Hungarian, but when the Hungarians started migrating towards Europe, they had significant contact with Volga- Finnic peoples. Including the Mokshas.
@@1h30minsmusic2
I am of Hungarian origin.
I had a little Finnish sweetheart
😘 rakastan Suomea 😘
Édesapám Magyarországon született
Great,kiitos 🎉
Sükonäms videosta❤
Just started and it's already Finnish
In a hotel pub, a not so sober guy is trying to hit a not so sober woman:
"Hey honey, perhaps you are hungry?"
"No Hungary, I'm Finnish!"
"You finish? So, what's next, your room or mine?"
@@forgottenmusic1 believe it or not, but I used a Hung(a)ry joke on Whatsapp with my crush years ago that made her text a long laugh, just because she wrote “aer” instead of “are”
I wait comparsion moksha and erzya
finally video with mokshenȷ kälȷ!!!!
Andy, fala como fala essas línguas?!
Could we do Chinese and Turkish 🇨🇳 🇹🇷?
Yes because attaturk founded the first dynasties of China. The sinnitic languages are a branch of turkic which are descendanted from anatolian turkey turk turkish turkic
@@개혁자-k5d huh..? that is not true at all
@@luckneh5330He is sarcastic probably
Please do manchurian and mongolian
1 , 5 , 6 and 7 are very similar to Indo-European .
No, it’s not. all numbers from 1 to 10 are preserved from the Proto-Uralic language (with the exception of 10, where moksha/finnish - kemon’/kymmenen is from Proto-Finno-Volga) therefore it is very similar to Finnish and other Uralic languages. although in some Uralic languages the number 10 was borrowed from Indo-European languages in Komi/Udmurt - das, in Hungarian - tíz
@@oitakaikille2330 Well , as a Bengali-speaker , I found those quite similar to Bengali numbers .
1 - Yksi - Ek
5 - Viisi - Vete - Pach ( Pas and Fas in some dialects )
6 - Kuusi - Kota - Sas , Sat ( Sanskrit ) [ K to S transition is not uncommon among languages ]
7 - Seitseman - Sisem - Shat , Shopto , Shoptom (Bengali) , Sapta , Saptam (Sanskrit)
I'm not saying these numbers are borrowings from Indo-European or Uralic and Indo-European are related . Probably these similarities are just coincidence .
@@Morshed2005Thank you for comparison. Often comparing modern languages show similarities that are not historical, because often forms in modern languages have gone through many sound changes during thousands of years. For example Moksha shows in number 5 part *te* , which is older than Finnish *si* . Finnish word *viisi* has inflectional forms like *viitenä* , in which *nä* is essive case ending and *viite* is the root meaning '5'. So, we can see in inflection older form and do internal reconstrunction that is in line with comparing related languages like Moksha.
PS. Finnish ordinal number for 1 is *ensimmäinen* 'first', and in colloquial speech it is shortened to *eka* . Looks familiar to you, doesn't it? For 2 the ordinal number is *toinen* 'second', and its shortened form is *toka* . Now we could connect this element *to* easily to Indo-European root meaning 2. But (probably) these are just coincidences.
@@mikahamari6420 Thanks for your brief explanation .
@@Morshed2005 These are coincidences, but sata, hundred, is an indo-european loan, from proto-Iranic, I think.
Finno-ugric languages💜🤍🖤
Do Finnish & Estonian
As a bulgarian, when I hear "kaksi" I answer "dobresûm"😊
Why is the moksha flag pink?
The flag consists of three horizontal stripes: crimson - symbolizing joy and celebration, white - symbolizing spiritual purity and purity of thoughts, and black - symbolizing the native land and the memory of ancestors. In the center of the panel is a solar sign, symbolizing, according to the authors, liberation
Sound of Finic is so characteristic and nice. I like it! It is helpful in PIE reconstruct. Some parts of the Lord's Prayer have old Indoeuropean influences. Taivasi- debesis(latvian), Dievas dyaus, etc. Patre nos jek esi Deivesi... Coby Wám Maluśki Pán Jezus w Nowym Roku błogosławił. Best wishes for New Year: ruclips.net/video/mD80byisLuw/видео.htmlfeature=shared
can someone tell me where is uralic come from? i thought it's PIE
It's its own launguage family.
It's another language family, it comes from northern russia, near the ural mountains, which makes it very funny when you think about where hungarian currently is spoken
No one really knows where Uralic peoples come from, but theories range from the Volga and Ob rivers to the Ural and Sayan mountains. Uralic languages are not related to Indo-European languages, but have a lot of loanwords from them.
@@aitokoojii1462 The Indo-European loans are in general no older than from the Finno-Ugric period though, loanwords included in most of the Uralic languages including the Samoyedic languages are very rare.
@@forgottenmusic1 I am not sure what you mean. I was talking about in general, not how old they are or when they entered the Uralic vocabularies.
“Moksha”
People in Indosphere: … 🤔
0-10 Numbers in Erzya sounds almost Finnish.
Mordovians Erzya are closer to Finns than Moksha, genetically and linguistically. Moksha have small% Mongoloid heritage, while Mordovian Erzya are more similar to Europeans than Russians in Russia. Googling Vladimir Mineev mma fighter photos, his father Erzya, and Alex Ovechkin have mother Shoksha - it’s small group of Erzya with unique dialect
When it comes to autosomal DNA, Mokshas show homogeneity with Erzyas. But if talking about minor differences, Erzyas are really bit closer to Baltic-Finnic populations, while Mokshas are showing some shift to Balto-Slavic populations. Source is Tambets, Kristiina "Genes reveal traces of common recent demographic history for most of the Uralic-speaking populations" (2018).
Moksha flag = gay Egypt 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Esimene 🇪🇪