I faded before exjw support groups were online. We had to deal with the guilt, shame, self doubts, triggers and fallout alone. Very alone. I fully woke up 2019 September after being out for a very long time. Been binge-watching ever since. Happy we can embrace the word apostasy, taking our words back. Taking our power back, displaying our humanity.
Remember the dramas on tape? When I was little my dad would read my book of bible stories every night, and then put on the drama on tape usually the one about the ten plagues and the Israelites crossing the Red Sea.
Yes! The drama cassettes were a huge part of my childhood. We had the moses one. "We were better off the way we were!" (Remember?😆) Also the Rahab one. And yes they were played to 'help' me get to sleep. Amazing what passed then for child appropriate bedtime material.
Today, withdrawing from Watchtower society becomes a political act. Today let's be proud to exclude this company from our life. Let us stand up, speak and bear witness with a loud voice. Our withdrawal must become a chance for all those around us and no longer a shame.
Check out Dr. Michael Heiser. He’s an ancient Near East biblical scholar and Semitic languages expert. He’s quite familiar with WT theology and debunks it a lot on his lectures
Hi JoJey jojo ❤️ It’s Sassy. Your childhood buddy in the creek and mermaid days. Summer shared your channel with me. Agree, at age 4years old I would get up in the middle of the night checking to see if all my family was breathing still because I had nightmares they were all pulled into a lake of fire like Gehenna. Every night I was read to from that book. My eyes wide eyed and big thinking serious thoughts for a four year old. You look beautiful! Hope your well. Good to see you. Also, I went through all the abuse type stuff too. Well said your not wrong. ❤️💋🙃
Hey!!! Thanks for reaching out! Feel free to email me (aisforapostate@gmail.com) or message me on FB, if you want to. Sorry we had such f#cked up stuff in our childhood. Hope you're doing well! XXOO!!
@@catmeow333 😂 at my country we had hotdogs 🌭 ... I must mention that was something my mother would never ever let had!!! she was totally against sausage; first because of the possibility of blood included and second for the junky-fast food- unhealthy whatsoever reasons...but because it was served by “the” organisation, she was completely fine with it... so, I was an huge fan! truly, I still can smell those hotdogs with onion and pepper 🫑 in fact, I still cook them the exact same way... it was one of the nostalgia I used to share with my JW-ex-husband... (meanwhile, my current non-JW husband always ask: why the heck do you put pepper 🫑 on 🌭 🤷🏻♂️? 😅)
It’s not the women who are fragile, it’s the guys who can’t handle it if you disagree with him and someone else accidentally hears it ! Or how ‘bout let’s not question the idiot who handed out 2” brushes to paint the Kingdom Hall. Ruth was a JUDGE for crying out loud, wtf.
I agree with your overall point. However, Deborah was a judge in ancient Israel, not Ruth. (Judges 4:4,5) Ironically, the "New World Translation" includes this in its text (even in the 2013 edition), and yet the Society, in its patriarchal attitude, goes out of its way to deny this and say that Barak was the judge at that particular time; and that despite absolutely nothing in the text to even remotely suggest that he was a judge. In fact, verse eight suggests that Barak was apprehensive, if not a downright proverbial "weakling" (something which we should hope to not expect in a judge), as evidenced by his response to Judge Deborah's order that he go and fight Sisera, to wit, that he would go up to the battle, albeit only if she went with him. In reply, Judge Deborah acquiesced, but added: "Just the same, the beautifying thing will not become yours on the way that you are going, for it will be into the hand of a woman that Jehovah will sell Sisera." (Verse 9, NW 1984 edition) This other woman, of course, as we read in the ensuing verses, was Jael, who pinned Sisera through his temples into the earth. (Verse 21) In that one passage we read of two women of courage, one of whom (Judge Deborah) actually 'took the lead' amongst the Lord's typical people. Indeed, as the victory hymn of Deborah and Barak mentions, Judge Deborah "rose up as a mother in Israel".- Judges 5:7, NW 1984 edition.
Hands up if anyone else had the 'Listening to the Great Teacher' book on tape played on repeat at bedtimes.🤚 Read by Jack Barr if I remember. He had a pretty great voice. But goddamn I hated that book.
My father joined after my mother left because he found out she was having an affair. She tried to divorce him several years before but he blackmailed her in to staying. So when the JW turned up he was very happy. As he was now a single parent and victim.
“8 men, always American”, or at least English fluent speakers... always ask that to my mom: “why, among all the faithful men around the entire world, would god every time peak English speakers?!” 🤨 Of course, I never got an answer... 😏
I think you forgot about the 1000 years and the final trial 😆 or dit it also changed in the meantime?... 🥴 anyway... it all sounds soooo bizarre now... but I also had said the same things at people’s doors... 😳
Funny you say that/caught it. I omitted on purpose as my upcoming video is dedicated entirely to that most bizarre teaching! I use a white board and everything!. :p
I hadn't heard that everyone destroyed in the Flood (or all of the people of Sodom and Gomorrah) will not be resurrected. I'm not sure that's a definitive teaching.
It was noted through the years that anyone destroyed directly by Jehovah would not be resurrected as they had already been warned in their time. In Pioneer School it was shared that we would be cautious in sharing this and always preface it with "Only Jehovah can read hearts and we don't truly know". Same as they talk out of both sides of their mouth about disfellowshipped people who die. In print they state they won't be but follow it up with, "But only God reads hearts". So it might have changed through the years - but that is indeed how I was trained to understand it through the years.
@@aisforapostate2740 Disfellowshipped people who die? They are going to be really surprised if they ever read this end time prophecy right out of their own bible translation: . Isaiah 66:5 Hear the word of Jehovah, YOU men who are trembling at his word: “YOUR brothers that are hating YOU, that are excluding YOU by reason of my name, said, ‘May Jehovah be glorified!’ He must also appear with rejoicing on YOUR part, and they are the ones that will be put to shame.” . [Name of person] is no longer one of JEHOVAH's Witnesses ---->> excluding YOU by reason of MY NAME . He must also appear with rejoicing on YOUR part! . Very interesting that this end time prophecy is now being so abundantly fulfilled. . Maybe it really is the end of the world! . Just very different from what the Governing Body told us. .
@@aisforapostate2740 Well those people of the Flood were hard done by (kids especially) - it's not even the case that they were warned of the impending catastrophe.
Yep I remember that teaching. Judas, Adam and Eve, and anyone killed directly by Jehovah in the Bible would not be resurrected. The logic being that God doesn't make mistakes. I brought it up recently with my PIMI parents. They were very quick to gaslight me that it had always been "only Jehovah can read hearts". Funny stuff.
I apologize you were triggered; I try to highlight my other videos that discuss intense things I survived such as years long CSA, domestic violence, death of loved ones due to JW policy, so that those are avoided by ones who may have a hard time. I did not think to put a disclaimer before opening a JW publication.
@@aisforapostate2740 😊 you’re very kind... I’m always amazed how people from so many countries, cultures and upbringings were equality damaged by this cult... thanks for your activism. I left 10 years ago and I’m still trying to heal. Just discovered your channel today but I plan to see every video because I can already see how I share so many thoughts and feelings with you. ❤️
Nice approach, clear examples. You are nobody's fool. Appreciate your candor and heartfelt manner.
Looking forward to hearing more of your story!
I faded before exjw support groups were online. We had to deal with the guilt, shame, self doubts, triggers and fallout alone. Very alone. I fully woke up 2019 September after being out for a very long time. Been binge-watching ever since. Happy we can embrace the word apostasy, taking our words back. Taking our power back, displaying our humanity.
Wow JoHannah!!!! You send me down memory lane.
Thank you, this is giving me flashbacks. Your explanations of a jw life are spot on.
I hated going out in service even when I was a regular pioneer. The best part about service was taking a coffee break
This was spot on! Keep your videos coming! ❤️
Remember the dramas on tape? When I was little my dad would read my book of bible stories every night, and then put on the drama on tape usually the one about the ten plagues and the Israelites crossing the Red Sea.
Yes! The drama cassettes were a huge part of my childhood. We had the moses one. "We were better off the way we were!" (Remember?😆)
Also the Rahab one. And yes they were played to 'help' me get to sleep. Amazing what passed then for child appropriate bedtime material.
Today, withdrawing from Watchtower society becomes a political act. Today let's be proud to exclude this company from our life. Let us stand up, speak and bear witness with a loud voice. Our withdrawal must become a chance for all those around us and no longer a shame.
Check out Dr. Michael Heiser. He’s an ancient Near East biblical scholar and Semitic languages expert. He’s quite familiar with WT theology and debunks it a lot on his lectures
The lovebombing was powerful for me, especially as an awkward and shy teenager who had trouble making friends.
Absolutely. After leaving an abusive relationship the love bombing was irresistible.
I Like at lot the way that you approach this. You are very smart lady!
Hi JoJey jojo ❤️ It’s Sassy. Your childhood buddy in the creek and mermaid days. Summer shared your channel with me. Agree, at age 4years old I would get up in the middle of the night checking to see if all my family was breathing still because I had nightmares they were all pulled into a lake of fire like Gehenna. Every night I was read to from that book. My eyes wide eyed and big thinking serious thoughts for a four year old. You look beautiful! Hope your well. Good to see you. Also, I went through all the abuse type stuff too. Well said your not wrong. ❤️💋🙃
Hey!!! Thanks for reaching out! Feel free to email me (aisforapostate@gmail.com) or message me on FB, if you want to.
Sorry we had such f#cked up stuff in our childhood. Hope you're doing well! XXOO!!
@@aisforapostate2740Jesus sent you to preach about the JW's?????????
The 4-day conventions... 😅 No camping for me, just new clothes and the chance to have some “junk food”. 🤪
Those cheese danish ! My first convention I asked if they would heat mine up holy shit you might’ve thought I told them it was for Satan
@@catmeow333 😂 at my country we had hotdogs 🌭 ... I must mention that was something my mother would never ever let had!!! she was totally against sausage; first because of the possibility of blood included and second for the junky-fast food- unhealthy whatsoever reasons...but because it was served by “the” organisation, she was completely fine with it... so, I was an huge fan! truly, I still can smell those hotdogs with onion and pepper 🫑 in fact, I still cook them the exact same way... it was one of the nostalgia I used to share with my JW-ex-husband... (meanwhile, my current non-JW husband always ask: why the heck do you put pepper 🫑 on 🌭 🤷🏻♂️? 😅)
It’s not the women who are fragile, it’s the guys who can’t handle it if you disagree with him and someone else accidentally hears it ! Or how ‘bout let’s not question the idiot who handed out 2” brushes to paint the Kingdom Hall. Ruth was a JUDGE for crying out loud, wtf.
I agree with your overall point. However, Deborah was a judge in ancient Israel, not Ruth. (Judges 4:4,5) Ironically, the "New World Translation" includes this in its text (even in the 2013 edition), and yet the Society, in its patriarchal attitude, goes out of its way to deny this and say that Barak was the judge at that particular time; and that despite absolutely nothing in the text to even remotely suggest that he was a judge. In fact, verse eight suggests that Barak was apprehensive, if not a downright proverbial "weakling" (something which we should hope to not expect in a judge), as evidenced by his response to Judge Deborah's order that he go and fight Sisera, to wit, that he would go up to the battle, albeit only if she went with him. In reply, Judge Deborah acquiesced, but added: "Just the same, the beautifying thing will not become yours on the way that you are going, for it will be into the hand of a woman that Jehovah will sell Sisera." (Verse 9, NW 1984 edition) This other woman, of course, as we read in the ensuing verses, was Jael, who pinned Sisera through his temples into the earth. (Verse 21) In that one passage we read of two women of courage, one of whom (Judge Deborah) actually 'took the lead' amongst the Lord's typical people. Indeed, as the victory hymn of Deborah and Barak mentions, Judge Deborah "rose up as a mother in Israel".- Judges 5:7, NW 1984 edition.
@@thomash.schwed3662 oh Right ! Deborah was a judge. Thank you.
Hands up if anyone else had the 'Listening to the Great Teacher' book on tape played on repeat at bedtimes.🤚 Read by Jack Barr if I remember. He had a pretty great voice. But goddamn I hated that book.
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My father joined after my mother left because he found out she was having an affair. She tried to divorce him several years before but he blackmailed her in to staying. So when the JW turned up he was very happy. As he was now a single parent and victim.
“8 men, always American”, or at least English fluent speakers... always ask that to my mom: “why, among all the faithful men around the entire world, would god every time peak English speakers?!” 🤨 Of course, I never got an answer... 😏
good point
Well...I just know that I want to give ya a hug. Absorb a bit of that strength...ya know
The whole bunch are hung up on all-things-sex
I think you forgot about the 1000 years and the final trial 😆 or dit it also changed in the meantime?... 🥴 anyway... it all sounds soooo bizarre now... but I also had said the same things at people’s doors... 😳
Funny you say that/caught it. I omitted on purpose as my upcoming video is dedicated entirely to that most bizarre teaching! I use a white board and everything!. :p
I hadn't heard that everyone destroyed in the Flood (or all of the people of Sodom and Gomorrah) will not be resurrected. I'm not sure that's a definitive teaching.
It was noted through the years that anyone destroyed directly by Jehovah would not be resurrected as they had already been warned in their time. In Pioneer School it was shared that we would be cautious in sharing this and always preface it with "Only Jehovah can read hearts and we don't truly know". Same as they talk out of both sides of their mouth about disfellowshipped people who die. In print they state they won't be but follow it up with, "But only God reads hearts".
So it might have changed through the years - but that is indeed how I was trained to understand it through the years.
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Disfellowshipped people who die?
They are going to be really surprised if they ever read this end time prophecy right out of their own bible translation:
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Isaiah 66:5
Hear the word of Jehovah, YOU men who are trembling at his word: “YOUR brothers that are hating YOU, that are excluding YOU by reason of my name, said, ‘May Jehovah be glorified!’ He must also appear with rejoicing on YOUR part, and they are the ones that will be put to shame.”
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[Name of person] is no longer one of JEHOVAH's Witnesses ---->> excluding YOU by reason of MY NAME
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He must also appear with rejoicing on YOUR part!
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Very interesting that this end time prophecy is now being so abundantly fulfilled.
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Maybe it really is the end of the world!
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Just very different from what the Governing Body told us.
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@@aisforapostate2740 Well those people of the Flood were hard done by (kids especially) - it's not even the case that they were warned of the impending catastrophe.
Yep I remember that teaching. Judas, Adam and Eve, and anyone killed directly by Jehovah in the Bible would not be resurrected. The logic being that God doesn't make mistakes. I brought it up recently with my PIMI parents. They were very quick to gaslight me that it had always been "only Jehovah can read hearts". Funny stuff.
🤔 new light ?
Haven’t seen this book for years... as soon as you’ve open it, my heart rate went mad!! That was distasteful!
I apologize you were triggered; I try to highlight my other videos that discuss intense things I survived such as years long CSA, domestic violence, death of loved ones due to JW policy, so that those are avoided by ones who may have a hard time.
I did not think to put a disclaimer before opening a JW publication.
PS I did update w/a trigger warning to advise I show the inside of the publication.
@@aisforapostate2740 😊 you’re very kind... I’m always amazed how people from so many countries, cultures and upbringings were equality damaged by this cult... thanks for your activism. I left 10 years ago and I’m still trying to heal. Just discovered your channel today but I plan to see every video because I can already see how I share so many thoughts and feelings with you. ❤️
Jesus sent you to preach about the JW's?????????