We got 3x A7iii for like $3300, upgraded our lighting, upgraded our audio to 32 bit, got better glass. We now have more angles to shoot from and couldnt be happier. If you're doing photos, no reason to upgrade. The 24MP of the A7iii is fast when working in post. 8bit 420 is fine, if you're color grading a lot then go for the a7iv. We still shoot in 1080 60, 4K is a premium that clients dont want or notice the difference. Even other studios do not want 4K yet because of the high demand for resources and longer tines working in post.. The ninja v is now like 399. Get it to overcome the recording limit. Thanks for the video and great points! Appreciate reasonably minded youtubers who do not hype everythi g up. Keep it up!
I find that it’s quite important to shoot in 4K, you may won’t see a difference on a phone or a 27“ monitor, but on a bigger TV, it does make a big difference
I have A7III and i was thinking to upgrade , but i do onlu portraits so as u said to pay 1000 dollars for some megapixel plus and more robust body... no thx .
I just upgraded from the a7iii,mainly because I wanted 10bit and slow motion 4k,but I will tell you this, just my humble opinion...A7IV honestly blows the a7iii completely out of the water...its better in every single way by at least 50%
@@Panther- you must say that because you bought it. A7IV has a problems with AF in portraits (no all bodies ofc) and overheating. It's maybe better camera but less reliable than A7III.
I'm actually in the market to buy a used A73 or A74. I will only really be using it for photo and not professional. Since the A74 is double the price for used, the A73 is probably the best choice for me. The one real feature I like is the closing door in front of the sensor.
Thank you, I think I'll go with the a7iii, it's more than enough for my creative and commercial tasks for a year ahead, and then I'll sell and take the a7iv.
4:03 skintones on a7III when color is set to s-gamut are unusable, but when they are set to 709 space even with slog3 or slog2 gamma, they are great :)
😎 A7 IV is a no brainer choice for various reasons. However the A7R IV takes this up yet another notch. But the RAW files average 125megs each. The maximum ISO is a lot lower as well. If your into photographing the night sky, especially cloaked UFO’s at 50,000+ ISO, then the Sony A7 IV is the best choice in this price range. Just be sure to get a fast f2.8 lens. I went pro digital in 1996. Never looked backed. 🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹
Don't know if it was an update, or a very hidden feature, but I've been able to set picture profiles to swap when going between photo and video mode for at least 6 months now!
Focus mapping looks like a focus peaking in reverse mode on what you can see in the screen. In focus peaking the indicator color covers the focused subjects but in focus mapping you can clearly see the focused subjects without any overlays or colored indicators. It can be helpful if you want to see how clear those focused subjects are with the use of focus mapping contrary to focus peaking.
You have mode 1 & 2 that I am effectively using even on A7II that changes from s-log to normal colour profile. When I am shooting in a mixed environment, there's a different WB setting, iso etc. But yea, instantly hitting the rec button is gonna do the current settings. Likewise, you are in video mode and hit the shutter button. Good review, keep it rolling lml
The picture profiles aren't the same when switching from photo to video. You can go into your settings and decide which settings you'd like carried across from photo to video modes
*A7C vs A7III? As I'm trying to get into an Entry lvl FF and having both the a6400 and ZV-1 both the 7C and 7III are only $200 apart as I only want the Body for use with my 16mm Sigma which I know is for APS-C Camera's but It seems I'm having a problem getting my hands on One to Purchase so IYP should I wait for my A7C's to get back in stock or Just get the A7III?*
Hello TRW, log profiles and resolution or detail are not correlated. Log profiles are about retaining dynamic range for exploiting later in the post production process. Log (historically called Cineon) was developed for at least a 10 bit signal. Log profiles, like all gamma encoding is simply a mathematical formula. When you have an 8 bit signal, you have to steal data from other areas in order to retain the dynamic range. There is not enough data to go around. It’s like building the frame to a two story house when you only have enough wood for one story. So you start looking around for all the end bits you might be able to use to frame up the 2nd story. The house is no longer stable. We see this when we look at log taken with 8 bit cameras. There is a lot of strange colours happening and you can’t fix it in post because the material just simply isn’t there. I think my example shows this well. The reason some people will say “it’s fine” is due to experience or taste. If you’re working and shooting every day with clients that expect an excellent image, shooting 8 bit log could very well get you fired, whereas as a recreational videographer who edits and grades their own work - they may not notice or care until they start to see the difference. Hope this helped clear up any questions.
@@vistek oh okay thank you so much for clearing that up for me! Sorry I got confused because I thought this was for the Sony A7SIII (which is what I shoot with). I didn’t see that this was for the A7III (that one S really makes a difference). Thank you so much for the information!
Hey! I am looking to purchase an Alpha 7 model. Would you recommend to still buy the A7 III after 6 years on the market or spend 500€ more and get the more „future proof“ A7 IV? Thanks for the help 😊
Good review. One thing I don't think I heard you mention when occurring photo resolution was the ability to crop and retain better quality post crop with the added megapixels
just got a brand new a73 from sony for 1600AUD (1155USD exchange atm) and a74 is sold at 3995 AUD atm. so i think i made the right choice, given it is way more than 2 times the price here
honestly you did, especially if you don’t really need it for video, because the picture quality is literally the same as a74, even tho the a74 has 33mp
There is a menu to set or not things that will be different or stay what they were in the mode selected ( photo /video /s&q) that include picture profile ... as speed value, aperture, iso , af mode. So you can have different picture profile in photo vidéo and s&Q; In the menu it is a bit after the fn customization ;) And it it in sony cameras since the a7sIII so look around a bit before saying things that are wrong
I appreciate the point your making here. But take a moment to be in my shoes for a second. First off, no one human can know 100% of every camera system. If you’re expecting any reviewer to know that, then they are spending all of their time futzing with the most unimportant part of being an artist and a user. There are lots of things about my very own camera that I don’t understand because it’s not important and doesn’t progress my art in any way. It’s easy to be critical with words without empathy for real users who are focused on simply doing good work. Secondly, I stand by my comment because nearly every brand that includes this feature makes the change automatic. The fact that Sony makes it so contrived that I have to dive three fathoms into an inception style menu just to turn this silly feature off is laughable. I’m fine with the fact that you don’t agree with me - but don’t critique me that I haven’t done my homework. I’m out here in the real world busting my ass making a living as an artist and if something is poorly designed that gets between me and making good work, I’m going to point it out. Most people outside of trolls appreciate it.
See that this video is 2 years ago, how would this change today? I have an a6000 but now we have the a6700 which is superb when it comes to money value; That being said, if I wanted to go full frame is the A7IV to do it today?
Sony, Sony RUclipsrs, and Sony users really buried the overheat issues of the Sony cameras over the years, then jumped all over Canon when the R5 overheated.
I'm a Sony shooter and I'll be the first to admit that Canon created an amazing starter camera in the R5. I bought one for my 8 year old daughter to learn on. When she becomes an adult then I'll move her into the Sony system. I'll probably have to anyway since Canon is unlikely to be around.
Question regarding the the continuous shooting. What card are you using? I heard others are only able to get to 10fps by using CFE-a card and only in compressed raw. If using uncompressed raw or SD card, the fps drops to around 6.
My A7IV overheated the first day I used it after less than 2hrs...supposedly I have to keep the screen flipped out when filming. Was in an indoor setting and even turned it on and off when not actively recording. Any thoughts on this would be great. Thanks for the review Bro!
Sorry to hear that you had that problem. I had no OH issues with the model they lent me. Though, having an A7III and experiencing severe overheating problems - I can tell you that ambient temperature does play a role. If it's room or above room temp, the camera (A7III) will OH in video mode quite quickly. I never had the same problem with the A7IV, but I imagine that in a warm environment, and depending on what your frame rate is (higher resolutions and FR will cause more heat), you could run into issues. I just didn't have any with my tests. I would investigate to see if it's just an issue with your camera and maybe this is a service issue.
Hi Miranda - I just came across this video/article. I think it could be helpful for you and others experiencing OH issues on the IV. www.4kshooters.net/2022/03/01/6-ways-to-fix-overheating-on-the-sony-a7-iv/
Thank you! I haven't done a video on that specific topic. I did recently do a video about lenses for fashion (using sony lenses) but not specifically speaking to specific lens attributes. Choosing a set of lenses for your camera is really about what type of photography you shoot. There is no "this lens is the best of this camera" kind of thing. Choosing a lens is also about how much you can afford. Depending on what you're shooting, you may not see a difference between a $700 lens and a $3000 one.
Vis- Good video! Looking for a FF camera, not huge and don't care about video. I guess the A7iii should do it? I heard the menu on 7iii sucks but i can get the iii for 1500 bucks compared to 2500. Anything to add? Tks!!
i have a sony a7s 3 for video but want to get a seperate camera for photography as the meg pixels doesn't cut it, would you recommend a74 or a73 to save $$ if its just for photos not video
I personally have a GH5 but at work we use Sony cameras. I 100% agree for the menu button. It's on the dial like a "enter" button on the GH5 and it's much better placed. However the lens release button as well as the "library" one are better placed on the Sony.
I would not use the sensor protection feature because the shutter is very delicate so you don't want it exposed too much. Dust is very easy to clean on sensor
I would say if video is what you do the most then the a7siii is a monster to compete with. If you want a hybrid then the a7 iv is a better choice for photography and video.
Dale, thank you for sharing your Faux SCinetone profile. Regardless of its relationship with the actual SCinetone, I think that it produces an aesthetically pleasing and appealing (to my eyes anyway) image out of the A7iii. I'm excited to continue to squeeze the most out of my A7iii for the time being.
It can be situational, and based on a lot of factors - namely what you're shooting, and also what each person deems "suitable." I have attempted to grade or graded 8-bit log footage from nearly all cameras and the results are consistent. I have considerably high standards, especially in respect to skin tones. So, I could also correctly say that S-log2 on 8 bit is fine - but users will *always* get a better image, better skin tone, and better colours out of shooting a 709 hyper-gamma in 8 bit over log, and save themselves a whole tonne of work. But, to each their own, I suppose...
Are you shooting photos or videos? Do you live at the North Pole? Both of those things will have an impact. Overheating doesn’t happen with photos, but with video. Typically it will happen if you are running the camera for long periods (like interviews, vlogging, etc). You’re environment also plays a role (ambient temperature).
I was thinking about upgrading my a7 iii and selling it for the a7 Iv, but I don’t see a thousand $1k difference. ( that’s me thinking I’d get $1500 for my basically brand new a 7iii. ) what do you guys think? I mainly shoot video
Im not a Sony shooter - so let me get this right - are you saying if you switch from video to photo the profile in video automatically moves to photo. Surly you can set your photo profile - thats really dumb and the first time Ive heard this.
I was originally thinking of going for a Canon Eos R6 M2 or similar until I heard about the lens options, now I am thinking of Sony A7IV but feel like I should cut the budget a little as I want more lens options so I am now comparing the A7iii and Nikon Z5. Anyone has advice on which one would be best for portraits, street and landscape photography? The video capabilities are a plus but not as necessary to me.
A73's 4K30p is oversampled from 6K while the A74's 4K60p is oversampled from 7K, A74's 4K60p is oversampled from 4.8K so the 4K60p will not look as sharp as the 4K30p on the A74 althought its both 4K.
I’ve had almost every Sony camera since the A6000 A7s A7r etc. The A73 and A7R4 are my cameras and do the job. I’m good for awhile but interesting notes appreciated.
I'm starting out with a $3000 budget. I was thinking about getting the A7iv new, but it limits me to getting a kit lens. My other option I'm looking at is getting a used a7iii with a sigma 24-70 lens or the sony f/4 70-200mm lens. In terms of camera and lens, I have a max budget of $2700. I plan on shooting primarily sports/events and Commercial work, thinking mainly photo and some video work. I'm not sure entirely though what route I'll be taking. What would you recommend? I'm open to any ideas or takes on my situation.
I have the A7III, which I have used extensively for concert photography. While the A7IV is a desirable camera, I am not switching. People do not look at images or video from different cameras side-by-side, so comparisons are largely irrelevant. Myself, I want/need more lenses, not a new body. As they say, cameras come and go, but good glass will last forever.
@么c r a n k A73 with the sigma 24-70 f2.8 i would suggest, as the kit lens is really not as good while the sigma has almost the same quality as the 24-70 f2.8 GM. A73 compaired to A74 is still not bad unless you have to use 4K60 10bit 422 or the higer megapixals or the flip out screen.
I was really confused when you were talking about the picture profiles being the same in photo and video then I realized you're talking about shooting in jpeg
Even when shooting raw, you’re still looking at a picture profile and the picture profile you choose actually affects your raw encoding on the post side (Gerald Undone did a great video about this). So your PP at the very least will effect how you see your image in your camera. At worst, even when only shooting raw, will have some effect on your final image in computer.
@@vistek Then just have separate settings for photo and video. That's what I do. Whenever I go from video to photo it goes from slog3 to picture profile off. I never even considered this a problem 😅
i'm struggling ... i'm divided by the fact that the A7III is still a beast and the price is realllllly attractive ... but the A7IV just feel like the better option even tho just the camera alone is almost the same price as the A7III with a lens ... here is the thing, i'm looking to upgrade from my Canon 750D and start my business, the smart choice should be the A7IV technically right ? i'm kinda lost since pretty much everything is an insane upgrade to my 750D ... any help ? Also i almost forgot but i do not plan on shooting videos, at least not for the moment so yeah that also goes into consideration. My requirement for my upgrade is actually fairly simple: Full frame, Double SD slot that can be written on at the same time (back up is important) and good auto focus, the rest is a bonus
The new touchscreen menu system is a huge incentive to buy the the 2300€ A7iv instead of the 1550€ A7iii, worth 300-400€ for me. Higher def sensor, better AF, ergonomic, 4K video format, etc... does the rest.
I have to agree that screen on the A7III is the worst part of the body but as a hobbyist photographer everything else is good enough for me with the A7III even 5 years later. The upgrades to AF, minor ergo changes & slight res bump isn't worth 3200 CAD.
For sports will I be not better off with a7iii and if am into wedding and portraits will I be not better off with a7r4… am a bit confused about its positioning… rather Sony itself is I think… if they wanted to genuinely upgrade, they should have kept the fps at 10 in uncompressed Raw… they didn’t want to kill the golden goose.
I agree. I did test this and can confirm it’s about the same on both cameras. I omitted it from the review because my tests were not comprehensive enough to form a clear opinion.
One of the most genuine comparison , not like other RUclipsrs pushing for the latest and the greatest
Thank you Jasmeet!
We got 3x A7iii for like $3300, upgraded our lighting, upgraded our audio to 32 bit, got better glass. We now have more angles to shoot from and couldnt be happier.
If you're doing photos, no reason to upgrade. The 24MP of the A7iii is fast when working in post. 8bit 420 is fine, if you're color grading a lot then go for the a7iv.
We still shoot in 1080 60, 4K is a premium that clients dont want or notice the difference. Even other studios do not want 4K yet because of the high demand for resources and longer tines working in post..
The ninja v is now like 399.
Get it to overcome the recording limit.
Thanks for the video and great points! Appreciate reasonably minded youtubers who do not hype everythi g up.
Keep it up!
Would agree with the above! nobody notices 1080p vs 4k unless you are have an eye for it
I find that it’s quite important to shoot in 4K, you may won’t see a difference on a phone or a 27“ monitor, but on a bigger TV, it does make a big difference
@@bakaphu1992 yes but a lot of people use phones as well...
I just bought a open box A7iii, there’s no way I’m paying $1,000 more for an A74 just for minor advantages.
I have A7III and i was thinking to upgrade , but i do onlu portraits so as u said to pay 1000 dollars for some megapixel plus and more robust body... no thx .
Smart I did the same, maybe if they come out with a a75 with more upgrades in specs
I just upgraded from the a7iii,mainly because I wanted 10bit and slow motion 4k,but I will tell you this, just my humble opinion...A7IV honestly blows the a7iii completely out of the water...its better in every single way by at least 50%
If you are professional; you might consider that. If you are not then a6100 will do too!
@@Panther- you must say that because you bought it. A7IV has a problems with AF in portraits (no all bodies ofc) and overheating. It's maybe better camera but less reliable than A7III.
I'm actually in the market to buy a used A73 or A74. I will only really be using it for photo and not professional. Since the A74 is double the price for used, the A73 is probably the best choice for me. The one real feature I like is the closing door in front of the sensor.
Focus Mapping would be a help in taking group photos, making sure everyone is in focus by adjusting the aperture. Smart move by Sony in my opinion!
Wow, great video! Tight, fast, logical, clear. Subscribed.
Same 👍🏻
Thank you, I think I'll go with the a7iii, it's more than enough for my creative and commercial tasks for a year ahead, and then I'll sell and take the a7iv.
4:03 skintones on a7III when color is set to s-gamut are unusable, but when they are set to 709 space even with slog3 or slog2 gamma, they are great :)
😎 A7 IV is a no brainer choice for various reasons. However the A7R IV takes this up yet another notch. But the RAW files average 125megs each. The maximum ISO is a lot lower as well. If your into photographing the night sky, especially cloaked UFO’s at 50,000+ ISO, then the Sony A7 IV is the best choice in this price range. Just be sure to get a fast f2.8 lens. I went pro digital in 1996. Never looked backed.
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its not a no brainer when considering the price. but yes I understand spec wise you obviously would go with the upgrade.
@@Charlie33 - It’s the difference between book smarts and intelligent.
Hey bro, how many cloaked UFOs did you manage to capture in last 4 months? Asking for a friend.
What is a cloaked UFO?! lol sounds interesting
Shows us these cloaked UFO’s
Don't know if it was an update, or a very hidden feature, but I've been able to set picture profiles to swap when going between photo and video mode for at least 6 months now!
Thank you for the helpful and informative comparison video! Good luck and keep creating!
Thank you for the comment!
Great review as always! Thanks!
Much appreciated Paul!
Does this still come with the crappy 2005 LCD that all other Sony cameras have?
A7iii is the golden boy of sony cameras. Its hard for sony itself to compete with
Focus mapping looks like a focus peaking in reverse mode on what you can see in the screen. In focus peaking the indicator color covers the focused subjects but in focus mapping you can clearly see the focused subjects without any overlays or colored indicators. It can be helpful if you want to see how clear those focused subjects are with the use of focus mapping contrary to focus peaking.
Please also make a Tutorial setup video of the Sony a7iv...
You have mode 1 & 2 that I am effectively using even on A7II that changes from s-log to normal colour profile. When I am shooting in a mixed environment, there's a different WB setting, iso etc. But yea, instantly hitting the rec button is gonna do the current settings. Likewise, you are in video mode and hit the shutter button. Good review, keep it rolling lml
Very relevant comparison thank you. This helps me decide.
Great review! I'm currently using the Sony a9 and looking for better video features while still being able to take great photos. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for displaying the differences, it helps a lot!
How about for an A6500 user?
Wow concise and short awesome thank you!!
The picture profiles aren't the same when switching from photo to video. You can go into your settings and decide which settings you'd like carried across from photo to video modes
Great tip. I had no idea, as I think many users also.
Thank you for this informative video.
Really appreciate the help and insight!
Thanks Kollide Media!
Great review Dale!!!! Thank you!
Thank YOU for all your awesome help!
*A7C vs A7III? As I'm trying to get into an Entry lvl FF and having both the a6400 and ZV-1 both the 7C and 7III are only $200 apart as I only want the Body for use with my 16mm Sigma which I know is for APS-C Camera's but It seems I'm having a problem getting my hands on One to Purchase so IYP should I wait for my A7C's to get back in stock or Just get the A7III?*
Nice, straightforward presentation of the facts. Thank you.
Wait holdup- at 4:00 he says the color is unusable….what? What does he mean? Isn’t SlogIII the best picture profile to shoot with for maximum detail?
Hello TRW, log profiles and resolution or detail are not correlated. Log profiles are about retaining dynamic range for exploiting later in the post production process. Log (historically called Cineon) was developed for at least a 10 bit signal. Log profiles, like all gamma encoding is simply a mathematical formula. When you have an 8 bit signal, you have to steal data from other areas in order to retain the dynamic range. There is not enough data to go around. It’s like building the frame to a two story house when you only have enough wood for one story. So you start looking around for all the end bits you might be able to use to frame up the 2nd story. The house is no longer stable.
We see this when we look at log taken with 8 bit cameras. There is a lot of strange colours happening and you can’t fix it in post because the material just simply isn’t there. I think my example shows this well.
The reason some people will say “it’s fine” is due to experience or taste. If you’re working and shooting every day with clients that expect an excellent image, shooting 8 bit log could very well get you fired, whereas as a recreational videographer who edits and grades their own work - they may not notice or care until they start to see the difference.
Hope this helped clear up any questions.
@@vistek oh okay thank you so much for clearing that up for me! Sorry I got confused because I thought this was for the Sony A7SIII (which is what I shoot with). I didn’t see that this was for the A7III (that one S really makes a difference). Thank you so much for the information!
Hey! I am looking to purchase an Alpha 7 model. Would you recommend to still buy the A7 III after 6 years on the market or spend 500€ more and get the more „future proof“ A7 IV? Thanks for the help 😊
What is your a7iii’s setting to match S-cinetone?
Hi Adrian, I’ve added it to the bottom of the video description.
A7IV good for low light?
I'm not sure if I should get the 3 or 4. I want to be a professional photographer.
Good review. One thing I don't think I heard you mention when occurring photo resolution was the ability to crop and retain better quality post crop with the added megapixels
Great video man, thanks.
Glad you liked it!
just got a brand new a73 from sony for 1600AUD (1155USD exchange atm) and a74 is sold at 3995 AUD atm.
so i think i made the right choice, given it is way more than 2 times the price here
Where? On the sony website I see it for 2,699 AUD. Mind sharing the link
honestly you did, especially if you don’t really need it for video, because the picture quality is literally the same as a74, even tho the a74 has 33mp
There is a menu to set or not things that will be different or stay what they were in the mode selected ( photo /video /s&q) that include picture profile ... as speed value, aperture, iso , af mode. So you can have different picture profile in photo vidéo and s&Q;
In the menu it is a bit after the fn customization ;)
And it it in sony cameras since the a7sIII so look around a bit before saying things that are wrong
I appreciate the point your making here. But take a moment to be in my shoes for a second. First off, no one human can know 100% of every camera system. If you’re expecting any reviewer to know that, then they are spending all of their time futzing with the most unimportant part of being an artist and a user. There are lots of things about my very own camera that I don’t understand because it’s not important and doesn’t progress my art in any way. It’s easy to be critical with words without empathy for real users who are focused on simply doing good work. Secondly, I stand by my comment because nearly every brand that includes this feature makes the change automatic. The fact that Sony makes it so contrived that I have to dive three fathoms into an inception style menu just to turn this silly feature off is laughable. I’m fine with the fact that you don’t agree with me - but don’t critique me that I haven’t done my homework. I’m out here in the real world busting my ass making a living as an artist and if something is poorly designed that gets between me and making good work, I’m going to point it out. Most people outside of trolls appreciate it.
As a brand new a7iii owner, I thank you for this. I learned a bit about my camera's flaws and strengths. Now I just have to find me 2 good lenses. :)
Thank you for the great comment!
See that this video is 2 years ago, how would this change today? I have an a6000 but now we have the a6700 which is superb when it comes to money value; That being said, if I wanted to go full frame is the A7IV to do it today?
Sony, Sony RUclipsrs, and Sony users really buried the overheat issues of the Sony cameras over the years, then jumped all over Canon when the R5 overheated.
I'm a Sony shooter and I'll be the first to admit that Canon created an amazing starter camera in the R5. I bought one for my 8 year old daughter to learn on. When she becomes an adult then I'll move her into the Sony system. I'll probably have to anyway since Canon is unlikely to be around.
I’m still on an A7ii with some good glass. I’m gonna go 4 for future proofing. However if I started with the A7iii I’d just wait till the MK5.
Great video! Very helpful thanks!!!
You're welcome!
Question regarding the the continuous shooting. What card are you using? I heard others are only able to get to 10fps by using CFE-a card and only in compressed raw. If using uncompressed raw or SD card, the fps drops to around 6.
Hi KuangTu, I was using a V90 SD card, which is nearly as fast as CFExpress.
Thanks for keeping it short sweet and to the point.
Thanks PD!
Great video! Thanks👍
My A7IV overheated the first day I used it after less than 2hrs...supposedly I have to keep the screen flipped out when filming. Was in an indoor setting and even turned it on and off when not actively recording. Any thoughts on this would be great. Thanks for the review Bro!
Sorry to hear that you had that problem. I had no OH issues with the model they lent me. Though, having an A7III and experiencing severe overheating problems - I can tell you that ambient temperature does play a role. If it's room or above room temp, the camera (A7III) will OH in video mode quite quickly. I never had the same problem with the A7IV, but I imagine that in a warm environment, and depending on what your frame rate is (higher resolutions and FR will cause more heat), you could run into issues. I just didn't have any with my tests. I would investigate to see if it's just an issue with your camera and maybe this is a service issue.
Hi Miranda - I just came across this video/article. I think it could be helpful for you and others experiencing OH issues on the IV. www.4kshooters.net/2022/03/01/6-ways-to-fix-overheating-on-the-sony-a7-iv/
thanks for this video! helped me a lot. Do you also have a video where you touch upon which lens is good for the Sony A7IV?
Thank you! I haven't done a video on that specific topic. I did recently do a video about lenses for fashion (using sony lenses) but not specifically speaking to specific lens attributes. Choosing a set of lenses for your camera is really about what type of photography you shoot. There is no "this lens is the best of this camera" kind of thing. Choosing a lens is also about how much you can afford. Depending on what you're shooting, you may not see a difference between a $700 lens and a $3000 one.
@@vistek alrighty will check that one out thanks :)
Thank you for this great review. I’m jumping into my computer to buy the a7iv after this 👌
I put down the order for it on vistek right after it was available for preorder. When will I get mine?
Vis- Good video! Looking for a FF camera, not huge and don't care about video. I guess the A7iii should do it? I heard the menu on 7iii sucks but i can get the iii for 1500 bucks compared to 2500. Anything to add? Tks!!
i have a sony a7s 3 for video but want to get a seperate camera for photography as the meg pixels doesn't cut it, would you recommend a74 or a73 to save $$ if its just for photos not video
I personally have a GH5 but at work we use Sony cameras. I 100% agree for the menu button. It's on the dial like a "enter" button on the GH5 and it's much better placed. However the lens release button as well as the "library" one are better placed on the Sony.
You can remap one of the customizable buttons as a menu button. Hope that helps.
man this helped me a lot in upgrading between a7iii and an 17iv...especially the overheating part
quality video. many people reported that the a7iv does in fact overheat. Have you experience this issue after continuous use?
Especially using 4k
I would not use the sensor protection feature because the shutter is very delicate so you don't want it exposed too much. Dust is very easy to clean on sensor
How about the a7siii VS the a7iv?
Also, had Focus Mapping and Focus Breathing Compensation reached the a7siii yet in firmware updates?
I would say if video is what you do the most then the a7siii is a monster to compete with. If you want a hybrid then the a7 iv is a better choice for photography and video.
You're so right about the Picture Profile thing! I hope they fix this.
Dale, thank you for sharing your Faux SCinetone profile. Regardless of its relationship with the actual SCinetone, I think that it produces an aesthetically pleasing and appealing (to my eyes anyway) image out of the A7iii. I'm excited to continue to squeeze the most out of my A7iii for the time being.
My pleasure! Thanks Nelson!
Where we do find it
@@THELIFEOFCB It's in the description under the video. Haven't used it myself, but will definitely give it a whirl!
Still trying to decide on an A9ii or the A7iv. I mostly do portraits, low light concerts and car photography.
A7iv is the better choice for your purposes
I dont have any problems with a7iii slog2 and slog3 like u did. I think the promblem was the lut that you used
It can be situational, and based on a lot of factors - namely what you're shooting, and also what each person deems "suitable." I have attempted to grade or graded 8-bit log footage from nearly all cameras and the results are consistent. I have considerably high standards, especially in respect to skin tones. So, I could also correctly say that S-log2 on 8 bit is fine - but users will *always* get a better image, better skin tone, and better colours out of shooting a 709 hyper-gamma in 8 bit over log, and save themselves a whole tonne of work. But, to each their own, I suppose...
Could you elaborate on the facecinetone setting for the 8-bit cameras?
The recipe is in the description. Beyond that, how would you like me to elaborate?
I'm using my A7iii over 3 years and never had a overheating problem. Tbh I've never heard that the A7iii had that problem
same!
Are you shooting photos or videos? Do you live at the North Pole? Both of those things will have an impact. Overheating doesn’t happen with photos, but with video. Typically it will happen if you are running the camera for long periods (like interviews, vlogging, etc). You’re environment also plays a role (ambient temperature).
@@vistek I'm shooting both, living in Europe even in a Hot summer day, never faced overheating even with recording times over 4hours
How do you get the shutter to close when the camera is off? Is it a setting? My A7 IV does not do this out of the box.
Hi Marsha, yes it is a setting. Should be quick to find in the manual.
Yeah A7IV, its great to have 10bit 422 4k but do we have option to shoot 8bit 4k ?? Just when we need more storage in memory cards..
I was thinking about upgrading my a7 iii and selling it for the a7 Iv, but I don’t see a thousand $1k difference. ( that’s me thinking I’d get $1500 for my basically brand new a 7iii. ) what do you guys think? I mainly shoot video
Curious as well
Bro... if u shoot video a7iv is worth it. The higher bit rate alone is worth it.
From all these videos I'm seeing i will get a pre own a7iii. Looking to learn and get into street photography.
Im not a Sony shooter - so let me get this right - are you saying if you switch from video to photo the profile in video automatically moves to photo. Surly you can set your photo profile - thats really dumb and the first time Ive heard this.
Thanks for well comparison. i'm passing upgrade this time.
I was originally thinking of going for a Canon Eos R6 M2 or similar until I heard about the lens options, now I am thinking of Sony A7IV but feel like I should cut the budget a little as I want more lens options so I am now comparing the A7iii and Nikon Z5. Anyone has advice on which one would be best for portraits, street and landscape photography? The video capabilities are a plus but not as necessary to me.
What you get
I got a a7iii should I upgrade to a7iv or get another a7iii? I do alot of wedding photography and use only prime lenses
What lenses do you already own? Do you want to shoot with two bodies or do you prefer shooting with one body (but you need to swap lenses)
No...
Does a73 better in low light?
A73's 4K30p is oversampled from 6K while the A74's 4K60p is oversampled from 7K, A74's 4K60p is oversampled from 4.8K so the 4K60p will not look as sharp as the 4K30p on the A74 althought its both 4K.
Nice review thanks.
I’ve had almost every Sony camera since the A6000 A7s A7r etc. The A73 and A7R4 are my cameras and do the job. I’m good for awhile but interesting notes appreciated.
Can you help me decide? should i go sony a7iii with sigma 24-70 or sony a7iv with kit lens?
Unless you shoot fast action like sports or birds in flight. Take the first option with the better glass!💯
Great review!
perfect review
Thank you! I was thinking of getting the a7C, but I may wait for this one to come out instead!
you should wait a7c2
I'm starting out with a $3000 budget. I was thinking about getting the A7iv new, but it limits me to getting a kit lens. My other option I'm looking at is getting a used a7iii with a sigma 24-70 lens or the sony f/4 70-200mm lens. In terms of camera and lens, I have a max budget of $2700. I plan on shooting primarily sports/events and Commercial work, thinking mainly photo and some video work. I'm not sure entirely though what route I'll be taking. What would you recommend? I'm open to any ideas or takes on my situation.
I have the A7III, which I have used extensively for concert photography. While the A7IV is a desirable camera, I am not switching. People do not look at images or video from different cameras side-by-side, so comparisons are largely irrelevant.
Myself, I want/need more lenses, not a new body. As they say, cameras come and go, but good glass will last forever.
Did you buy or yet ?
@么c r a n k A73 with the sigma 24-70 f2.8 i would suggest, as the kit lens is really not as good while the sigma has almost the same quality as the 24-70 f2.8 GM. A73 compaired to A74 is still not bad unless you have to use 4K60 10bit 422 or the higer megapixals or the flip out screen.
8bit 4k Vs 10bit 1080 which one is sharper/ Better??
I agree soooo much about the picture profile staying from video to photo ._.
I had a a7c and a a7iv is a definite upgrade. 👍 I'm impress by their specs.
I was really confused when you were talking about the picture profiles being the same in photo and video then I realized you're talking about shooting in jpeg
Even when shooting raw, you’re still looking at a picture profile and the picture profile you choose actually affects your raw encoding on the post side (Gerald Undone did a great video about this). So your PP at the very least will effect how you see your image in your camera. At worst, even when only shooting raw, will have some effect on your final image in computer.
@@vistek Then just have separate settings for photo and video. That's what I do. Whenever I go from video to photo it goes from slog3 to picture profile off. I never even considered this a problem 😅
A7iii & a7iv who is better
Thank you!
i'm struggling ... i'm divided by the fact that the A7III is still a beast and the price is realllllly attractive ... but the A7IV just feel like the better option even tho just the camera alone is almost the same price as the A7III with a lens ...
here is the thing, i'm looking to upgrade from my Canon 750D and start my business, the smart choice should be the A7IV technically right ? i'm kinda lost since pretty much everything is an insane upgrade to my 750D ... any help ?
Also i almost forgot but i do not plan on shooting videos, at least not for the moment so yeah that also goes into consideration. My requirement for my upgrade is actually fairly simple:
Full frame, Double SD slot that can be written on at the same time (back up is important) and good auto focus, the rest is a bonus
if you want to buy first sony camera body, just go a7iv straight away. It will get your job done and you wont regret it.
The new touchscreen menu system is a huge incentive to buy the the 2300€ A7iv instead of the 1550€ A7iii, worth 300-400€ for me. Higher def sensor, better AF, ergonomic, 4K video format, etc... does the rest.
Bruh, where are you finding an A7iii for 1550???!?!?
Amazing presentation
I have to agree that screen on the A7III is the worst part of the body but as a hobbyist photographer everything else is good enough for me with the A7III even 5 years later. The upgrades to AF, minor ergo changes & slight res bump isn't worth 3200 CAD.
For sports will I be not better off with a7iii and if am into wedding and portraits will I be not better off with a7r4… am a bit confused about its positioning… rather Sony itself is I think… if they wanted to genuinely upgrade, they should have kept the fps at 10 in uncompressed Raw… they didn’t want to kill the golden goose.
just cant stand a7iii's non-rotating screen when shooting low/high angles
guess ill just upgrade for the screen lol
Make video 7Riii vs 7Miv
Woah🙌
Thank you
Those gorgeous, dreamy eyes though! damn bro 🤩
Is that Effie?!
Very good!
Thanks Techable!
I'm concerned by the LOW burstrate (only 5FPS in uncompressed raw), the huge rolling shuter, the poor quality screen :(
i agree, disappointing release
Now I need to check out that game changers.
The Rolling shutter issues and Silent shutter banding and JELL-O Effects even worst in Sony a7iv.
I agree. I did test this and can confirm it’s about the same on both cameras. I omitted it from the review because my tests were not comprehensive enough to form a clear opinion.
Hmm where I am brand new a7iii is half the price of the a7iv