Uberti 1862 Police Model Revolver
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- In the 19th century police forces were generally armed with small .31 caliber cap and ball revolvers like the Colt 1849 Pocket Model. In 1861 Colt designed a more powerful, .36 caliber revolver that fit into the same small package.
Uberti's re-creationof Colt's 1862 Police Model revolver has all the features of the 19th century original. In this video we'll take it to the range to see what it can do.
It’s no exaggeration to say this was the prettiest revolver ever produced by Colt
I had an old 36 Navy replica MANY years ago and I literally shot it so much it fell apart. Can't even remember who made it, That thing was so much fun to shoot. A pound of powder lasted forever. First time it chain fired it scared the crap out of me. Was a bit more liberal with the crisco after that...........
If it's like the one I shot until it fell apart, ARMI SAN MARCOS.
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My grandfather bought me one of these back in the 60's or early 70's It was a beautiful pistol . I wish I still had it.
Mike, I was a little disappointed in mine when it arrived. I noticed that the wedge was not through the frame all of the way. After I pushed the wedge in, I couldn't cock the revolver. Now I know why they left the wedge like the way they did, poor quality control from Uberti. I spent a bit of time with a small file and some really fine sand paper and I was able to finally properly seat the wedge while having the cylinder rotate when cocking the hammer ( like it should). Now it's a nice little shooter. I always enjoy and learn from your videos. Thanks again for all you do.
Now *that* looked like a good day at the range!
Thanks, Mike, for featuring this sweet little revolver, which, when compared to the 1860 Army, is downright "puny"!
I'm lovin' the Old Western garb there, pardner.
Love watching you load those beautiful revolvers
MPGunther1 I’m glad you like them. I’m planning a video just on loading techniques.
I’ve been waiting for this one
Excellent as usual Mike! Thanks! Love those small Colts!
Showing that Colt Pocket Model sure brings back memories of mine and when I traded it for a new Spanish 10 gauge double barrel shotgun. Loved the 10 gauge !
My LGS has one of these for sale. I have been looking very hard at it trying to decide if I need it. Your video just answered that question--Yes I do!
I love this pistol! I have 2 of them, as well as 2 of the Pocket Navys. The Police is a little more powerful though. Due to more travel of the rammer. The best performance is with the Colt molded elongated of 148g with a charge of powder that allows for maximum compression to where the compression stops but the rammer has not reached its stop, and the tip of the ball is j u s t below the chamber mouth. Only powder. No wadding or whatever. The ball travels through more than several spaced 1'' pine boards at 5o yds.
Mike, Many thanks for the review. I have never shot a Colt and have been wanting a 62 Police for a while now as they just look cool.
Hello Mike pardon my punctuation on this one I'm using voice text I thought of something after watching you shoot you shoot amazing with those black powder guns you're very talented that aside I think you may have done this in the past but I would love to see it again you wear the period-correct clothing with the Sash and the duel Navy's stuck in it butts forward and do the famous Wild Bill Hickok shooting from Springfield Missouri I think that would be awesome thank you Mike I learned a lot from you your attitude is amazing and your personality is top-notch signed Joe security from Oklahoma
This man is the uncle we all wish we had
Love them "old" guns.
I really like these. Heavy elongated, 148g w/17g FFFg BP, medium 130g w/20g and light 120g w/22g. Through 4 boards at 50yds.
(From 1830s - 1860s penetration/affect testing, using wood block/layered board types, it seems 3 boards equals a deep penetrating hit on its intended target, with basic outerlayering (clothing).
The layered board target simulates bone, tendon , , penetration path/ball distortion , . via the ball passing through the various grain/knot textures as well as the shard/splintering.
Great to see you out shooting again. That is a great looking little revolver.
Mr Mike.
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I love it, aside from hunting with BP revolvers, I have been getting into the smaller ones myself for plinking and defense, I went down from a .45 Colt to to a .38 Special for defense. Why? I have found that the heavy calibers got to were they hurt my wrist now days, the right wrist I get, when I do a double hand hold cause I have nerve damage down my right arm. But I dunno why left bothers me I never had trouble with it before. Anywho I love it now I got to put one of those on the to get list :) Great video .
Perhaps a Remington 1858 Belt Pistol in .36 Caliber BP ball. With the Taylor's conversion cylinders in .38 Special/.38 Long Colt? Make sure you use lead semi wad cutters. Never FMJ
I enjoyed this. Especially the use of paper targets at a known distance. Thanks!
I found your comments about the guy in the next shooting bay hilarious! Don't worry, I only detected a miniscule amount of sarcasm. ;-)
I also enjoyed see the little .36 in action. Great shooting Mike!
Stuart
Watching your videos for a while I have purchased my first cap and ball pietta made remington 1858
I have the same gun, but haven't changed nipples. And like your's, I need to cap it by hand. It's a great little revolver. It handles well, and though I'm not as accurate as you, I'm getting better. Thanks for the great video.
Nice shooting Mike!
I had one of these about 25 years ago and I had fits with the caps ether not going off or falling inside. I tried the usual fixes for Colt type revolvers and ended up selling it. I had no issue with the accuracy and it is a beautiful firearm but very frustrating for me. I have three 1860 Army revolvers a Uberti a Pietta and a Belgium made Colt The Belgium Colt is still new in the box and unfired. I have had the best luck with the 1860's.
I just bought an 1862 police today at a gun show in Kansas city. It is an older CVA made by ASM with nickel plated barrel and cylinder. Unfortunately it had the zip tie through it and I didn't get to try the action out before I bought it. When I got it back to the room and clipped the zip tie, I found that it was over rotating considerably when cocked. After taking it apart, the hand was way too long for this gun. At first I was going to order one but decided to see if I could make it work. After about 5 or 6 times of stoning it a bit and reassembling it, I got it where it lines up perfectly. I have had cap and ball revolvers for years, but never one of these. I can't wait to get back to Tennessee and try it out.
Great to see you again!!love the old wheel guns making smoke!
Finally pulled the trigger on a 1858 Target. Tuning it up and getting all the accessories for it. 35 years between BP pistols. Little Police was kind of nice. Guess in Large City PD's of the mid 18's it was easy to place in a pocket. I tend to think because the Colt seemingly always shooting high in their entire range they were instinctive shooters. Corrects for distance if you use the sights but like you said... bullet/ball drop. Intriguing Colt engineering and loved by so many.
I have a uberti 62 police I purchased in 1978 from Navy Arms. I've always admired the looks of them. Mine shoots so high that when aiming at a target 10 yards away I shot a grouse out of a tree 440 yards away. It takes an act of congress to get the gun apart and a stout hammer to put it back together again. It was fun to shoot but the disassembly was horrible. It has sat in a gun box for over 40 years. Watching your videos made me take it out and look at it. My arbor has a bevel of about .007 of an inch from start to finish of the wedge slot. when the barrel gets uo to the pins on the frame it is so tight you have to tap the end of the barrel with a mallet to finish putting it on. I will work on that and take it back out shooting next spring. Enjoy your videos and agree with you on your thoughts of short arbors on Ubertis.
Nice little revolver, thanks for sharing this one.
Always a joy to see you shooting these Mike..very informative information on old black powder guns..
I have a Colt manufactured reproduction that I have yet to fire. In the presentation box is a bullet mold that makes both round and conical. Can't wait to get it out to the range.
great video mike!
Nice job Mike.
I just bought it as my FIRST EVER black powder gun!!! And I joined black powder users because.. OF YOU! I am watching and subscribed to your channel since a year. You changed my life really. I have a question: does the uberti pocket 31 drum fits into uberti 36 police? Because police has plain drum and somebody sells beautiful engraved pocket drum and I wonder are they interchangable?
You will also need to install the barrel of the 31 in this case.
Nice shooting 😎👍
looks like a fun liitle plinker
I bought a Uberti 1862 Pocket police (May 2023) and after some work it turned out to be an excellent little revolver. I picked up a 1862 pocket Navy (Feb 2024) from Midwayusa and it turned out to be the worse Uberti percussion revolver I ever owned. Now Midwayusa didn't manufacture it so no complaints there that said. Out of the box the cylinder wouldn't turn. I discovered the frame was wedged aginst the cylinder so I filed the high spot on the frame to free up the cylinder only to discover the hand was too short and the cylinder wouldn't index right the arbor was lose and the nipples were in so tight and somewhat rusted I ended up drilling one so I could use an easy out. After about six hrs of work it now funtions but I did have to order a new hand to fit since too short is worse than too long. Ill deal with the lise arbor at a later date sonce I havevto fit the new hand anyway. At the cost ofcthese small Uberti revolvers you'd think they'd step up their manufacturing standards for them. (I bought this one on sale by the way)
Outstanding and informative. I think I will get the Eras Gone conical for this and my 1861 Navy. Yours shoots 6" high at 7 yd, mine 18" or so at 25, so results are the same. These were probably designed for and are VERY good for short-range instinctive shooting. On loading, I wish you would show how to use a revolver loading stand, it's fast and keeps the gun muzzle pointed straight up at the range. loved this one.
Great vid! I picked up one of these at a gun show years ago made by Armi SanMarcos in .36 cal. Great little pistol. One of my favorites. ✌️😬
Ok, another gun has been added to my list. Great video.
Looks like a good shooter! I want one!!!
Good video, thank you
Great video like always, et un bonjour de France !
Always a high watching your presentations Mike, from Aussie land thsnk you sir.
I just ordered one from Dixie gun works. First thing I'm going to do is file down the safety notch in the hammer, same thing I did with my 1851 Navys. Nice vid, Mike!
To me, the 62 was Colts best gun(the last he personally designed). It's such a great little shooter and I too, use the tresco nipples. In the process of adding them to the rest of my cb collection. With a round ball, the cylinder will hold a surprising amount of powder. Don't be tempted to go there. It will beat the gun up over time. Most I load in mine now is 18 grains, fff. Keep an eye on the loading lever catch on the barrel. It's a very shallow dovetail and will want to work it's way out, especially with stout loads.
Yeah, mine worked off quickly, and wouldn't stay on even after my gunsmith silver soldered it. Now I use a rubber band. Fun gun, fun to shoot. Basically instinctive point and shoot, I imagine what it was designed for, light and handy carry pistol. Its main advantage is that it uses the same ammo as my '61 Navy.
You’re a very good natured fellow. Many people would become flustered, frustrated, and furious at noise interrupting their attempt to record. You just laughed it off. Good on you. Mostly commenting because Al Gore has no rhythm.
Another great vid Mike
Thanks for sharing .
The small gun fits in with your video about the tiny guns used by police.
Really like the size of the gun and seem quite powerful/accurate and fun to shoot with! Definitely gonna add it to my collection and keep around as my mexican carry sidearm.
I love it! The original police issue 38(ish)!
The elephant in the room though is the reduced powder capacity, in what is already a 36 cal pistol. The bad guy might be very mad if he finds out he got shot.
The bad guy knows he's going to suffer a long, drawn out, painful death from peritonitis if the bullet doesn't drop him immediately. No anesthesia, no antibiotics = more fear of getting shot.
Fantastic video, Now I am going to have to save up for one. Very impressive !
1851 Navy great piece of art!
Nice revolver, and the new capper looked good.
Keep up the shooting. You are very interesting & full of much needed information about our' weapons of the past. You are a fine marksman as well.
take that gun bunny hunting !!! awesome gun sir
Looks like a fun pistol to shoot might have to look into getting one to start getting into black powder guns
Love mine, its a perfect balance and very nice to carry.
Always as usual I give you A plus...love your vidios....you shoot fine..and Iike your attire...
Try the 3D printed Polish cappers that are flexible plastic and inexpensive and work on everything.
That's pretty good shooting Mike
I want one of those!
Good stuff, Mike! Just bought one.
DOES UBERTI MAKE AN EARLY AIR RIFLE REPRODUCTION, LIKE GIORDINI AIR RIFLE USED BY LEWIS AND CLARK?
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I have had an 1862 Uberti that is a beautiful gun but it and my 1849 pocket revolvers were the two worse guns I ever had for cap jams and failure to fire. I put two springs in the 1849 and that helped but I still ended up selling both of them as I had no confidence in them.
Wow! That is fine shooting Sir! Very Fine! I would be happy to just be able to hit the paper(small paper). Next time, let us hear the other shooter take out the cartel too. lol If I may, have you ever done any small/large game hunting using a BP revolver? I have a thousand questions, but I will stop there for today. That is if you do not mind?
Wolf's Westerns I’m not a big fan of revolver hunting, but in my teen years, I carried a .36 caliber Navy replica just about everywhere, and I opportunistically shot anything that presented itself. So, I’ve shot my share of frogs, rabbits, squirrels, woodchucks and pigeons with a C&B revolver. But I prefer to use a rifle or shotgun for hunting.
Mike another great video! Do you think by putting lube inside the grooves of the conicals would have made any difference? Thanks again!
I don’t think so.
Looking at the specifications for this revolver and the Pocket Navy on the DGW site, the chamber diameter and the barrel grooves are identical, where as the Navy''s and 1860's chambers are way undersize compared to groove diameters. Also I wish Treso's and Slix Shots came in black, they just look off to me.
Great vid Mike . now I want one . You need to do one on the 1876 Winchester
Am I correct in thinking you did not use a wad for the conical bullet because the bullet would no longer fit under the ramrod?
Sort of. The wad eats up too much powder capacity, which you need with the longer, heavier conicals.
I #tlf the Pocket Police ( I always think of tiny policemen in my pocket) I bought a second one - cartridge conversion .38 -just to own a pair.
Nice. Prefer the larger one though.
Never had a chain fire but I always topped the cylinders off with lube.
Thank you.
Great gun thank you for your videos I learned a lot from you.
That's a nice "little" piece.
Now I'm torn between the police model and the '61 Navy.
I like them there guns partner 😉🤠🤠🤠
Love your content. However, gravity IS NOT the issue. Gravitational fields affect all masses exactly the same. It's a momentum process. The heavier bullet is moving slower and travels a shorter distance for the same amount of drop.
I'm just getting started with my two Piettas, both Sheriff models Colt and Remington. I've cast some Johnston and Dow bullets and sized them to .454 from about .464 to make them easier to load.
Excellent chootin!
I need one of those in 36 or 32 cal to go along with my 36 cal TC Hawken .
One of the replica makers should offer these in a 22 lr cartridge conversion
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Fine shootin'!
A bullet falls at the same speed a lighter bullet travels fast it doesn’t fall slower. If you fire two firearms one a .45 1911 and the other a .416 Barrett the two bullets would hit the ground at the same time if the ground was perfectly flat but the .416 Barrett is faster than .45 so the .416 will cover more ground in the same amount of time.
I have one of those, someday I will get to shoot it. someday
That would have been a pretty good little self defense gun in 1868, especially in a city where open carry was either illegal or at least frowned upon.
Great video Mike!
I have the Pietta version and don't understand why they gave it a fluted, 6-shot cylinder as opposed to the correct 5-shot version. Any idea on that?
I do so love the graceful and beautiful lines of the 1860s and its offshoot such as the 1862 Police! There is just something so artistic and pleasing to the eyes of them!
Thanks again, gave it a "like" and am already subscribed!
I'm not Mike, but the obvious answer is simplier/ less expensive to manufacture by using standard frame, cylinder, etc .
Additionally, some people , particularly with large hands , more concerned with comfortable shooting than exact historical authenticity would prefer the larger gun .
I'm not Mike either but I have a pair of guns like yours too. The only answer I can give is that Pietta plays very loose with the old designations to come up with new fantasy combinations of features in order to sell more guns. The only thing "police" on my guns is the barrel length, 5 3/8". They are 6 shot 44s, have Army frames with creeping rammer and Navy sized grips, so what would they be called back in the day? Yeah I don't know either but they are beautiful with great looking lines and handle very nicely giving just a bit of trigger guard bite when fired. Curiously the original Pietta sticker called them 62 Police Sherrif 44s and they also bore a Taylor's label that read 1860 Army 5 3/8" 44cal, go figure. I was a bit disappointed at first because I was looking for Army sized grips but they were too pretty to send back and I had gotten an extraordinary deal at Gun Broker. Having now lived with them for a couple of years I am quite tickled with them and shoot them regularly at Cowboy matches with conversion cylinders.
Concerning aftermarket nipples on 36 cal Uberti's.
My dial calipers show the stock nipples being:
Base width.292
Base height .194
Base to end of cone height .290
Total height.498
average with variation up to .005
Cone height .190
Tread .205/196 #12 .114 length Track of the wolf specs. are .211/189 outer thread/inner thread
after inserting into a cylinder the original unused dimensions are Track of the wolf PCC-P .215/.196.
Uberti .206/.196
#12-28 tap .219/.196
Track of the wolf has a PCC-S that is too large (I was not warned of this).
Cone length: 0.300"
Thread journal length: 0.200"
Overall length: 0.500"
Diameter of base: 0.305"
Also a PTC-PS which is correct except for the cone length is too short. For the 1862 pocket the cone length is a few thousandths to long.
Cone length: 0.285"
Thread journal length: 0.200"
Overall length: 0.485"
Diameter of base: 0.290"
It would be nice to get the dimensions for the Treso nipples #11-50-166 and #11-50-196
Have you seen cimarron’s ‘62 navy in .380 acp? Looks like a lot of fun!
Was the goex double f or 3 f? I just was able to find one to buy. looking forward to receiving it. I need some .375 blocks for my Lyman handles, or a box of the balls, I have some # 10 caps. and a can of GOEX fffg. and a little bit of superfine ffg.
Are conical bullets easier to load as opposed to round balls? What is the advantage?
How about modding the 1849 into a belly gun ? I loved what you did with the Remington !
You say the compustable cartridges were too long. What must you do th make some for this revolver?
Hello, have a question: Do you know if spinning round bullets are affected by the Magnus effect? ( Rifled barrel ) I'm new at this and can't find anything on spinning round projectiles. If it's the case, why not put small indentations on the bullet to prevent it? Like golf balls... Thanks! Keep shooting ! George.
See Mike's video on "chewed balls."
Short Answer - Any such effect would be too negligible to be discernable at pistol distances , or the potential group sizes .
I found a NOS Colt black powder series one from the 70s. Beautifully made. What would you recommend for conical bullets as far as weight and diameter? Guessing around 15gr of FFF?