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THROUGH THE LENSES - Quest 3 vs Quest 2 vs Quest PRO - Best PCVR?
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- Опубликовано: 3 ноя 2023
- Here we are with a new Comparison! Welcome to another Through the Lenses Video! The series where we compare our VR headsets to see which one is the best, and which one is the right for you! This Episode was highly requested, as so we are gonna see with our eyes the new Meta Quest 3 pancake Lenses in PCVR mode, running on my 4090! Comparing it with the Meta Quest 2, the generational Jump and also the mid update, the Quest PRO
Is it time to upgrade? Is it worth the jump?
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What's your pick?
Q3 is the best
Q3 is obviously the best, but i do like the blacks of the Q pro
not at all
@oshoturiya
Quest 3 is the best !
They are not a competitors at the moment. Pico4 and G2 should have been there too, to cover it all. But thanks anyway.
I love this video! I was trying to find this information for the past few weeks on Q2 vs Q3 vs QPro and you are the only one to provide it. Thanks for your hard work.
I always love these videos, Tyriel, everything about them, from the actual comparisons, to the music, are always so cool.
Though I know it's a LOT of work, I find myself wishing you'd do a "How Far VR Has Come" video, featuring the Quest 1, 2 and 3. So many folks complain about what VR SHOULD be... even those of us who've been playing with VR for years can forget just where we were a mere 6 or 7 years ago--or even five years ago.
Thanks for all the work you do--your contributions to helping VR grow are not just appreciated, but important.
For those that are curious, Quest 3's clarity comes close to HP Reverb G2, but not quite. Still a larger sweet spot though, which is nice.
So you own both? I have the G2 and hate the limited sweet spot and the fresnel lenses but the Q3's battery life on link cable is giving me pause. If you had neither, but knew what you know now, which one would you choose to buy?
@@MaddogMike-444 I have used Q2, Q3, QPro, G2 and others. When it comes to G2 vs QPro or Q3, the pancake lenses are a game changer. Even going from G2 to QPro, which has lower resolution, feels like a different world in clarity. The lenses are the star of the show here, not the screens. My dad had a G2 for years, mostly for ED, the day he put on my QPro he bought a Q3. My preference now is QPro, mainly for comfort, though I wouldn't recommend it as I think the Q3 will get better support, but so far there have not been any 3rd party straps that take away the pain from my cheek bones.
@@MaddogMike-444 Sweet spot on the q3 is huge, i have an ipd of 62 (so about the middle of the adjustment range) and honestly can set the adjustment anywhere from min to max and not be bothered at all, I can also adjust the headset up and down a lot without issue when it starts to irritate (yeah the headband sucks but can’t decide on a replacement😅). I use the new version of the inniu cable and it does charge, seen it pull up to 24watts, however I think there is something software related that sometimes limits charging either intentional or unintentional
That is one drawback to the HP Reverb G2 is the smaller sweet spot compared to my Oculus Rift S. Higher Resolutions does not mean everything in VR. I have both headsets mentioned in my comment.
The drawback to the g2 is the awful cable that doesn't last long, and hp doesn't restock it, and also Windows just dropped support for Windows mixed reality headsets to don't get a g2@@dathyr1
I still got my Oculus Quest 1 and I wish they would have continued using OLED displays for perfect blacks.
Especially in dark (horror) games the immersion there is so much better when you dont have that "gray fog" before you. My brain can always tell this way: "Ah, there is a display in front of your eyes - chill".
I agree, I loved the feeling of the inky black in the CV1. But those god rays and low resolution suck. I use rift s at the moment (dispite the bad contrast) but am anxiously watching the development of the new micro oled technology. I think this is what will make me want a new headset finally.
@Dornpunzel it's the pixel layout. Once we get to QDOLED screens then it will get better.
Just got Q3 and played DCS with link cable a while, then gave it to my son and went back to my QP. The LCD of QP is brighter, better color and contract though a little less details because of lower resolution. But QP supports eye tracking that I can enable Quadview in DCS and increase the SS in FR section. At the end the clarity of QP became better with bettet FPS.
It also costs 3x as much. So... yea, good on ya.
3 times? its 100-200 bucks difference@@Somtric
Thanks for making this video. After watching I think the Quest 2 would give me a headache trying to read gauges and spot targets in DCS. Looks like I'll save up for a Quest 3.
A Q3 vs G2 vs Pico 4 comparison wouldve made more sense (imo).
agreed
Yep Quest Pro is something ridiculous - with screens worse than Q3 and price twice high
Also XR Elite
agreed
Watch the video.
For those wondering about the contrast... I think this video is accurate. I have the 2 and 3 on hand and I've been very disappointed in the quest 3 contrast. The panel has the contrast of a cheap insignia LCD. Vader immortal for instance is a sea of grey on this headset. The quest 2 is no OLED, but it's better than the quest 3 in this regard.
Also, the quest 3 brightness control seems rather limited by the terrible native contrast of the panel. Turn it down below 40% or so and it becomes unusable.
whaaat ? that's very sad, the contrast is already so bad on quest 2... I read that the quest 3 panels should have better contrast, which must make sense.. so if it's really worse, i'm disappointed about it and maybe not buy it
@@el_taiito5492 it's better than quest 2 contrast but not by much
why are the blacks on the Quest 2 Darker?
Local dimming
@@dreamedfriendbrother, q2 doesn’t support local dimming
I grew up on cathode ray tube tv so any of these headsets will do just fine. Having said that, I do have the Q3 and it's the best gadget I've ever owned.
my life is waiting for Tyriel to post another through the lenses video
I bought a Quest Pro for $1,000. I wish I waited for Quest 3, but the difference isn’t huge. At times in this comparison, the Quest Pro was clearer. The best upgrade with Quest 3, IMO, is the lack of aliasing / increase in resolution. It didn’t make all angles of all images clearer, but it did remove all the jaggies you might see in Quest Pro. It’s excellent, it’s the better choice between the two, but it’s not enough to buy a Quest 3 as an “upgrade” if you already have the Pro.
As many said, if you play PCVR or have QuestGameOptimizer, you can bump the resolution yourself in the Quest Pro. But for standalone VR, Quest 3 can push QGO even further and will run native games better, without question.
shouldve bought an index
@@N1ghtZz maybe. I was looking for a wireless standalone though. I wasn’t interested in PCVR until after the fact.
Great video as always Tyriel.
Now for the competition comparison..... Quest 3 vs Pico 4 vs Reverb G2 (these are all in the "more affordable" category, agreed, comparing the Q3 to super high end HMDs would be interesting also, the Varjo Aero, the Pimax Crystal and the Bigscreen Beyond, but these 3 HMDs are on the "Way more expensive" end of the spectrum.
Thank you for doing what you do. :)
I thought that's what he would do first. I'm not sure I see the point of Quest 2 vs Quest 3 vs Quest Pro. We know what to expect there.
Are you guys paid shills or something? No one has bother either one of those two other sets.
So I did a test with the Quest 3 and G2... It really depends on what setting you use for the Quest 3. Wired link at 960Mbps is very close to the G2 in most scenes, except in heavy foliage scenes where you will notice some minor visual artefacts. G2 is much brighter and the colours feel slightly better, but the Quest 3 has better edge clarity. At default 100% scale in SteamVR the G2 renders at almost 3.3x display resolution (3.8k x 3.8k), so you need to max out the resolution scale in the Oculus app to match source resolution, otherwise the Quest 3 will be Rift S quality :(
I cannot get airlink to function consistently at high but theoretically possible bit rates. Virtual Desktop works well, but you will clearly notice compression artefacts in noisy scenes (e.g. foliage, a lot of colour gradients), even at 500Mbps. For most games with stylish graphics it should be sufficient, but if you like sightseeing in modded Skyrim VR etc. wired is probably preferred.
Looks like camera is doing color correction and white balance adjustment. You need to turn off those functions to get the real image. I have all those devices and clearly Qpro has better contrast and color saturation
So awesome!, can't wait for Bigscreen Beyond vs Quest 3!!!
Vs pico 5 ! ^^
Why quest 3 colors look so washed out, is there a way to increase contrast? Also after the first clip quest 2 and pro samples looked switched or mistaken, quest 2 having the better contrast and colors of the 3.
now its time for a requst 3 vs reverb g2 or aero through the lense to see how it compares. still looking for someone that can compared the ps5vr2 SDE visability with the q3 SDE
Great video on the visual tests of the different Quests. It is kind of a battle between the Quest 3 and the Quest Pro, but I feel the Quest 3 overall has the best visual graphics, especially when you do the zoom in shots of the various tests.
I have no Quest products at this time and my last current headset is the Oculus Rift S. I wanted to see how far the Quest has come in the Quest 3 and looks pretty good so far.
Thanks again for your tests on VR products.
Take care.
Never owned VR headset. Ordered Pimax Crystal Light. Thanks for video. For me footage is very clear to describe. not sure if it's same when you put VR headset on and look with your own eyes. Quest 2 got the most blacks. Quest 3 is the sharpest. Quest Pro has very visible screen door effect but even better sharpness than Q3 in some games and better blacks than Q3.
I had a quest 2 a few months ago and returned it. It just didn't seem like a big enough step up from the original Rift. This however, Text is actually readable. Think I'm about to go out and get the 3.
You won’t regret it at all. It’s so clear and crisp, with Virtual Desktop AV1 encoding there’s absolutely no image artifacting or anything. As long as you already have a good PC and router to run the high res, you’ll be great.
The pro appears to have darker dark colors. Better contrast even though the quest 3 is the sharpest. Personally I want oled with pancake for this kind of price. And since I got the quest 2 for pcvr for $299 plus mods I will be using that headset for a while on pc UNLESS there are drastic improvements in games and software for VR. Of course I will always recommend people at least try VR, it's an amazing technology and I love motion controls with it.
@SenorYME yes, more or less. . . which is why I need more gaming incentive to buy such headsets. The psvr2 is close to what I want ideally and that was around $700 or so at launch. Dropping in price for various reason, mainly a lack of games I suppose.
@SenorYMEMicro OLED is the best panel so far, it have best colors + contrast + pixel arrangement.... A Micro OLED with same pixels as LCD is actually clearer.....
Micro OLED is the future but it's bottlenecked by the lenses, as lenses get better (Maybe Apple done it) then we might have near 0 downsides in Micro OLED
@@TRX25EX Like the guy said earlier, Oled will shoot the price of the Quest 3 to nearly 1000 bucks. Idk if you noticed but Meta actually nearly loses profit selling these headsets due to their production cost of nearly $400 fyi. This isn't to mention the $300 sweet spot that consumers tend to like the most when it comes to this sort of tech and actually profiting. Meta switching to Oled for the Quest 3 would be a sales disaster just like the Quest Pro because there isn't a big enough market for this kind of thing; it's too niche.
@@wingsoficarus1139 Bro even Pico cancelled Pico 5 and switching to 1500$+ market..... There's enough demand at high end, Quest Pro failed because it wasn't ready, it had mini led but lacked dimming zones making it pointless, it lacked 6E wifi, it lacked support for PCVR intially also......
Quest Pro failed because it came out while not ready, however if you make a Quest 3 with Micro OLED easily it will sell crazy, look at Valve Index it sold crazy at that price....
It's all about value, Quest 3 is amazing in that and with OLED I will and all people I know who like VR will spend 1000$ for it
Returned my PSVR2. Terrible sweet spot,awful (worse I’ve ever seen) Mura, bad comfort and cabled to an underpowered console so most stuff like village and GT7 was flickery aliasing and blurry outside the sweet spot. Got quest pro for wireless PCVR and its like 2 gens ahead. I’ve had 7 HMDs since dk2, inc psvr1, rift, vive , quest 2 and this is the first time I feel genuinely satisfied with anything. Total clairty, good blacks with local dimming on (Not OLED black in busy scenes no but yes in big areas - jet black) , no cable, no tracking issues, NO MURA! it’s a stunner and imo the best currently all round for wireless PCVR. Of course I look fwd to microOLED from valve etc but not bigscreen… after quest pro lenses and untethered you can’t go back
So why are the blacks better on the quest 2 shots. It also seems like it’s a little bit darker but also seems to have deeper blacks? I don’t know.
The same reason it suffers from heavy color bleed in the DCS comparison shots (the gauges turn green lmao), it's software trickery and/or shitty decoding that limits the color range thus creating the illusion of increased contrast.
Hi, Tyriel! One question: Do you use manual exposure for the pictures? Same time, same aperture for all of them? That would be the only way to really appreciate the black levels on each of them.
Yeah blacks and contrast seemed little consistent to me. But it did show me the difference in fidelity of my q2 to new q3 for pcvr. I still may wait for the next one as I have to get so many accessories for these things to make it worth it. And feel haven't had my prescription lenses for my q2 that long and that was huge game changer. I may wait for next one to hopefully be oled. I don't mind the old lenses cause less screen door but the less in focus sucks. But yeah think I'm waiting for oled. They did it before why not anymore?
I have all 3, definitely I would pick Quest 3 for PCVR, better resolution and FOV plus performance at decoding frames, the local dimming not worth it
really ? is the grapich Quest 3 match to the Pc ? i have quest 2 its blurry
Still keeping my Q2 and wait til 2024 they might release a cheaper headset or a new affordable OLED as i dont notice much of the lenses issue
2024 Oled y más barato????. 😂
yeah, sticking to mu Q2 too. There is noticable improvement in Q3 but that's too little for me to spend additional buck for upgrade
I upgraded from the Oculus rift CV1 to the quest 3. On day one I repackaged the rift into its box for the rest of its life.. so for sale I guess lol.
That big of a difference? I’m on rift s considering an upgrade
Looking forward to comparing against the next set. Crystal, big screen, G2
Wow, just wow! Impressive job and thank you very much for such great comparison! 👍 I really appreciate it.
Did you lock exposure for the capture ? If you don't do that, it's impossible to really compare the brightness and contrast of the headsets. Good job otherwise !
Music fits. We are back in an 80s scenario. VR today is like 8-bit Nintendo back then. Amazing at the time but nothing compared to where the technology went. Can't wait to see what the VR equivalent of a PlayStation 5 is in 40 years.
A most awesome and effective comparison video, so many thanks for your effort and time!
Mate; this is THE video everybody should watch. Amazing comparison!!
Compare it with the Pico 4 please.
Excellent comparo, as others have said - doing this with rift, Q1, Q2, Q Pro and Q3 would be a fantastic review of progress - more so given the significant firmware upgrades.
Is it just me or does the quest 2 heave better blacks in this side by side comparisons how is this possible q2 has LCD displays not oled?
No not just you.
Cool video thanks! I got the impression some shots are overexposed, which settings did you use to take the pics ?
Good content. I’ve tried the Q3 and the QP very recently. QP quite comfortable. Q3 terrible for me. Good thing about Meta is there return policy is excellent so no harm in trying either.
in terms of comfort or visual or both?
@@swifty1969 just comfort. It’s very light.
I hated the fit of QP
You could get a different head strap if comfort is the main issue.
@@Ballissle I went Pimax Crystal in the end. Never looked backed.
i had a quest 1 for pc vr for long time quest 2 was not enough of an upgrade for me but i just got the quest 3 and OMG this is what a vr head set should be !
Im on quest 2 now the quest 3 don't look like a big enough leap for me and waiting for quest 4 lol
Did you switch eyes for the Q3 and QPro? I thought they had the same tilt, but the QPro orientation appears to have a sharp incline left to right vs a more gradual decline left to right on the Q3. The hatching or screen door effect is also way more obvious on the QPro despite the relatively minor bump in resolution.
Please test also vs. INDEX + Reverb G2 + Quest1 (for OLED and see the years of development)
Thanks a lot! 😀
INDEX and REVERB are Dead, no use testing them, just like PSVR1 and QUEST 1.
@@mitcherny6965 If you want to upgrade or not, you have to compare. INDEX, G2 and Q1 arent dead because they are some of the best PCVR headsets for now.
what about in comparison with HP Reverb G2?
Would be good to see the video. Personally owned both, and all I can say is that the Quest 3 lenses are a game changer. Even with G2 having higher resolution, the Q3 looks better, and I don't also feel the need to hook up to PCVR.
I only tend to use my Q2 for Bigscreen, watching movies pr PCVR. I tried the Q3 in a store and it isn't worth the upgrade for me; the screen door effect is there...different , but there nevertheless. Until they get rid of that completely (and the chromatic aberration) , I will stick to what I have. Thanks for the brilliant vids though: I always enjoy them. You're such a cheerful soul!
Quest3 its a BIG improvement to Quest2 on BigScreen... great clarity a very crisp imagen in entire lenses.
The screen door effect on the Q3 is almost unnoticeable. If you easily saw it its probably because Meta has poor quality control on those panels. I tested 4 Q3s at best buy and only one actually look like it should. Having used the Reverb G2 for a while and the QPro for almost a year, I was so disappointed when I saw more screen door effect on the Q3 than on the Pro when I bought it, but when I took it back, they let me try 3 more units and one of them looked substantially better and sharper. So Meta has to get their stuff together and stay on top of their quality control. Having both headsets I can attest the sharpness bump is noticeable and the screendoor effect, if you have a good unit is almost imperceptible to the naked eye.
5:10 Quest 2 has better black levels than the others? Can't be the same settings.
Great comparison. Can we also get a "Through the Lenses" for the Passthrough feature? A lot of people are divided regarding the quality of passthrough for Q3. Some say it is great while others say it is average and unable to use/phone texts properly the way they advertised. Personally it is uncomfortable for me to use my Q3 to send a message to anyone due to blurry texts and have to really struggle to figure out what I wrote. I might as well remove the headset and use my phone.
I agree with passthrough. You basically need to be standing outdoors in sunny weather for it to look any good. Indoors and it's grainy and lower resolution. At night is the worst and pretty much unusable. Wish there was some way for people to easily verify their light conditions, for example with a Lux light meter. But most Lux apps are inaccurate, so you really need a professional meter.
It's in the other "Through the lense" with Quest 3 already.
Just buy a controllable led smart light. So you can set it to max brightness when using the pass through then dim it for use outside the headset. Works for me.
My experience with pass through is quite good, much better than I was expecting. As for reading text on a phone or my watch, it really depends on how I'm wearing the Quest, what angle I'm using for comfortable. For example, if I have it so it's mainly on my forehead only, a lot of time the text can be blownout - but if I have it more strapped to my face directly, so I get pressure all around, including on my cheeks, the text is basically crystal clear. This isn't totally to do with the focus, as other areas of the screen are focused the same either way, I think it's just how the light is hitting the cameras, I think. Obviously you need to make sure your IDP is set correctly as well - if you haven't done so, I recommend downloading one of those free IDP phone apps that measures your eyes and gives you the exact number to use. If that's off, that can make everything look soft/blurry/out of focus.
Overall though, the pass through I've found mostly useful for walking around and using the mixed reality stuff. The idea is mainly just so you have awareness of what is around you with the ability to do an occasional text or read your notifications, etc. For me, that works just fine, if I have the headset on tightly.
Also, it could be related to your strap. I had better luck with the Elite strap than with the one that comes with the Quest. I ordered another strap to try as well as I don't think the Elite works as well with the Q3 as it did with the Q2. It's more comfortable, but just doesn't seem like it fits as well, like it moves more, which again can affect the focus. So just my personal experience so far. And I've owned every Oculus unit since DK1, and been using VR since the 90s. Personally I think the Q3 is pretty dang amazing, better in every way over the Q2, even if it's not quite the generational leap I'd hope for.
@@pixxelpusher This is an exposure issue regardless of pricing. If your gonna have darkness in the background or corner of the shot, the whole thing is gonna look more grainy regardless if the camera is $2000 or $500 dollars. Even the most expensive cameras that do happen to also automatically adjust ISO aren't going to be perfect.
Its especially noticeable if you are in a dark room with an extremely bright light(your phone) right in front of the cameras; of course its going to look horrible. You cant expect a VR headset with passthrough as a secondary feature to excel at this. Especially considering that Meta sells the product at nearly the same price as production cost.
hi Ty, have a Q2 and the Q2 quality in AC footage shows much worse then what I see in AC in the Q2... (but I have it at 72hz and on highest possible render resolution )
What render resolution did you set the Q2 ? And which one is the Q3 set to ? (does it also allow to bump up the resolution from the default one?)
I'm guessing you left both on default (but what is the default resolution setting for the Q3 ? )
It would be great to see the Q2 max resolution setting, compared to the Q3 (also on max resolution setting)... and knowing Meta they kept it kinda low for the Q3 since the battery dies already quickly and it might overheat...
i dunno
Been waiting on this one, AWESOME. Thanks for doing this TY! I'm seeing alot of people who are considering upgrading from a Rift S to a Quest 3. Since you mentioned you're making another comparison video, would you consider also adding the Rift S as a comparison?
The quest 3 is really better, if you have a good PC and router
@@jeanfredericely185 Makes sense, I just wanted to see if its was $500 USD better 😁
The Quest 3 is dramatically better in every way - and since you're coming from the Oculus unit with the worst screen (by far), even the black levels will be better. But being wireless is huge, not worrying about cables, having on pass through and being able to walk around with your house with it on, even the mix reality stuff turned out to be way better than I was expecting. If you're coming from the Q2 to the Q3, like I did, it's iffy, but from the S to the Q3, yeah, that's a huge leap well worth the money. While PC streaming is fine, the Quest comes alive when you're playing stuff native - so don't dismiss that for PCVR, even if it looks better, the lack of wires and using all the Quests abilities, really makes it worth it.
The only warning that I have will to give, is the fact that CERTAIN PCVR games will simply look worse due to the way the PC is sending information to the headset. Remember, instead of display port its using USB C which isn't nearly as powerful. Most games wont look any different however and the only ones you might have to look out for are most just open world VR games that may have a lot of foliage for example. The worst games that I've tested have been No Mans Sky and Skyrim, especially modded Skyrim. No matter the graphics setting, looking into a grove or any group of trees and flora immediately makes the whole image slightly grainy.
@@wingsoficarus1139 Thanks for the valuable info. The two games you mentioned are my favorite so it's especially appreciated.
I wonder if the Quest Pro headset with its eye tracking would fare better now that Steamlink supports Foveated rendering so it's working with alot less data?
Can you make a comparison with non-Quest headsets? Quest 3 vs. Reverb G2 vs. Varjo Aero or Pico 4 for example?
next time, put the Q3 and Pro side-by-side, rather than jamming the old Q2 in the middle
compare with pico 4? :(
Excellent comparison, it's refreshing hearing more YTbers getting past the honeymoon season with their Q3. I also have both the Q3 and the QP and I also prefer the viewing experience better on the QP, despite the slight increase in resolution of the Q3. Great work. Please keep it going.
I mean, no shit? I would hope the Qpro is better as it costs twice as much. I returned my Qpro because it is quite possibly the most uncomfortable headset I ever owned and that $50 light blocker? Literally a joke. Great clarity though and the contrast was nice, to bad it was offset by that weird ass amber IPS glow.
The quest pro is garbage compared to q3, but hey enjoy 😂
@ShowTube12 This sounds like a one-sided view of someone who can only afford the cheapest option. Your words tell me you don't own both divices for sure. I hope you did read I do? Meta has done a great job creating the best VR headset at that price braket (Q3) hands down. But if you had the chance to experience both, you'd be able to see where they cut costs to get it at that price. And I'm not talking just about the eye and face tracking. I'm talking about the quantum dot OLED tech, the local dimming, hence the black levels. The self tracked controllers, the premium feel of the materials. Enjoy what you can afford, but I wouldn't trash the headset just because you don't like it or can't afford it.
@TheMagnumload well, tech moves fast. I wouldn't say it is better in all aspects. But definitely in the viewing experience. And yes, the QP out of the box was uncomfortable to me too, (it gave me a headache in the first 30 minutes) but the solution was $50 on Amazon, and it works wonders. Granted, you shouldn't have to buy a solution for comfort when you are paying for a premium divice, but I didn't like any other headset at the time, so I bit the bullet on that one!
It's 2x times more expensive. Is it 2x times better? No. Marginally subjective better. Hence the fail of the QP
Despite the color and shapeness as a whole I prefer the q3. Ill have to find a q pro on sale some time and really try it out to see the difference.
Still images are completely uninteresting, how does it fare with compression during movement?
Super useful, thank you
I have a 3080ti and I'm trying to play Half Life Alyx at the highest and smoothest quality on the Quest 3. What settings would you recommend? I've tried Airlink and Virtual Desktop and the visuals look great on both, but both have the slightest amount of stuttering when just moving my hand side to side with a weapon for example. Any advice would be appreciated, thanks!
I'd love to see the eyechart comparison using 2560 or 3072 texture resolution settings via SideQuest
based on my experience the text is very clear, the first device that is truly usable for working in VR
Is the whole test done with max supersampling or at factory default resolution?
My dilemma is that I can oivk up a boxed pre-owned but unused Quest Pro for less than the price of a Quest 3. Bearing in mind that the pro was made for a much higher orice point, even though it is ilder, i cant help thinking it is the better deal. My only concern is that now it is discontinued and because it didnt sell in big numbers, Meta wont support the Pro and all the development and optimisation will be lavished on the Quest 3. Reality is that tech akways gets superseded, so maybe the more premium device is the better buy..?
I will consider upgrading to the Quest 3 when the games start flooding in.
Yeh until they make the VR games that can take advantage of the more powerful chip then it won't make ppl buy into changing from the Q3. A bit like a console even if the newer console has slightly better graphics & frame rates. Of course for PCVR then the computer is doing all the heavy lifting & running the game anyway .
POV: Me trying to not buy the Quest 3 to save money, and then even more banger videos come out like this xD
Keeping my quest 2 for now . I havent had chance to use for PCVR yet as thats my next expense , upgrade my PC to one that can hanlde it lol . I use rift s for PCVR atm but want wireless 😊
In certain areas quest 3 actually looks even better than quest pro, for example the text. Amazing.
ehhh, they all look decent apart from fov but ive tried quest 2 link to pc both wired and wireless and they look fine standing still but if youre in a complex scene n moving the compression really shows up bad like a youtube video sorta compression
Quest 3 has glaring issues because of the way the pancake lenses are designed, they put multiple layers of glass, plastic, glass which can mess with bright lights going through it, but the pixels are a lot sharper.
But to get sharp pixels you need to be wired, or have a really good setting for Air Link to transmit a ton of data in a really fast network.
x265 encoding of 200Mbps kind of strains a desktop, even though the wifi6 router can handle 1Gbps, the desktop can only do so much heavy workloads before lag kicks in.
x264 encoding is lower quality you can go as high as 600-700Mbps before the same lag kicks in, as it's lower quality because of low CPU/network overhead on the desktop.
You gotta find a nice sweet spot to get the top accurate image in Airlink, without the latency problems (once you play heavy loaded games, that bandwidth and hardware load levels will start to strain your performance).
This is why for PC, really high end CPUs are advantageous. And Ethernet adapters and Wifi 6E routers that supports 2.5Gbps is best, in addition to the usual hardware for your games.
Thanks Tyriel for this great video !
Looks like you have updated your Quest 3 face cover...
Plz could you tell which one it is ? If 3d printed where get the model ?
Best regards !
Almost undoable these days to make through the lens video’s that actually show the quality today’s headsets provide. IRL the Quest 3 looks way crisper. But nevertheless, good job!!
Can you compare the meta quest 3 and the occulus rift S please ? :)
I have q3 and qpro and qpro feels sharper in msfs)
Pico 4 please!
Quest three is my pick. The Quest 2 looks like it was made in fuzzy town. Also the contrast on the quest 2 appears like it's a little better than the 3 but... :-). For my money it's the Quest 3.
Exactly my thoughts as well. If Quest 2 had the better lenses it would be an absolute monster headset. The blacks are still distracting in my Reverb G4 and was insane bad on my old rift S.
Quest 3 has horrible Mura which you can't see in this video since it's comparing static scenes.
@@alexhandro8702 Wait till you see the PSVR headset. Quest 3 despite the slight Mura is still probably visually the best headset in it's price range.
Why do the black levels look so much better on Q2 shots than the Q3 ones, such as Elite Dangerous towards the end of the video? Is this really representative?
Best comparison video for the different Quest versions on the internet. I'm soooooo glad you made this ! Thank You !!
I really like your videos. Thanks for your Work!
pro 90fps and quest 3 120 fps. I think that is a big upgrade
Great review. I'm really tempted to go for the Quest 3. The graphics look the best out of the three of them.
I thought its not possible for a camera to diasplay the difference that well. I can approve the Quest 3 quality.
What you're not showing is the glare.
Many people are reporting it, and some claim that they got a replacement unit with no glare anymore. On mine it's very present and rather annoying, especially since many games have a neon retro look.
I'm not even noticing any screen door effect, but if you're saying that it's serious enough to be a criteria, it means that you don't have glare at all?
Which headset are you talking about?
@@financialliteracy_hrQuest 3
Thanks Tyriel my pick is the quest 3 that Passthrough is winner for me right now I use the browser a lot more nowadays
Qpro looks the best here imo. Despite its moire colors reproduction is greater. Q3 is clear but colors look washed out.
So Q3 is better cause there is no blur like in Q2?
Thanks TY! This was needed.
What about the foggy bloom effect on the Quest 3? In dark backgrounds with bright elements, it looks like you're watching through very dirty glasses. I've checked the internet, and it's still not clear if this can be a defect or a normal side effect of the design of the pancake lenses. Did you observe such a foggy effect? It's something I don't have on my Quest 1, Quest 2, or Reverb G2. But otherwise, it's a very good headset..
Flawed comparison since the Oculus software isn't updated for the Quest 3 in terms of max render resolution. Where the Q2 and Q Pro can have the render resolution in the software maxed out to actually yield full panel resolution (after accounting for barrel distortion), the Q3 via link/air link is not able to take advantage in the same way and is effectively set at the same resolution as those other two, which is like 20-25% less than it could/should be. It's a big difference, as I can confirm by using my Q3 with Virtual Desktop at godlike and air link at the resolution as will be shown in this video.
You'd have to use Virtual Desktop for a true comparison or wait until the link software is updated.
Big fan of your through the lens videos but you missed on this one because of what i said above.
Quick question.
Will the quest 3 use GPU resources than a quest 2 both running same resolution?
Reason I ask is quest 2 has a single display whilst quest 3 has 2 displays.
Thanks for yet another TTL video! I'm hoping to upgrade to Q3 from my original Quest 1soon.
I have all three Quests, and while I LOVED the OLED on the Quest 1, I hate everything else about it, mainly how insanely uncomfortable it is. Believe me, it was a huge jump from the 1 to the 2, but going from 1 to 3 is going to seem incredible, except for black levels.
It's interesting how the qpro has better lenses that the q2 and q3.
I Had Quest 2 (i have 71.5 IPD)- it was pretty blurry but 'finally just OK'
2:28 As i saw that i think about my comeback into VR :D
First time as i said 'Niiiiceeeee' on HMD review 'through lens' view
BUT Quest 3 seems to be 'bloomy' and a bit bleached
Quest Pro seems to be outstanding in terms of color reproduction and clarity
I am happy that LENS smudges seems to be reduced greatly- This was pretty annoying for me in dark scenes
Could you elaborate what settings (resolution) did you use in the Oculus software for testing? Any additional Steam supersampling?
Owning both Q3 and Q Pro - can't help but feel Q PRO Lenses display a better image quality overall (colors just seem to pop more; blacks look more black etc.) - BUT - it's very minor. Overall Q3 is an incredible value.
One thing that annoys me of the Q Pro - it seems to lag a lot more whenever putting the headset on; always have to restart it to reboot memory or w/e - super annoying.
With Q3, there is zero lag and its buttery smooth.
Quest3 has the new chipset... pro and q2 has the old gpu
It's the LCD panel that makes the difference in colors and contrast. The Pro has fancy panels with zone dimming
Oculus Rift 2 (Quest Pro as a slave model + eye tracking) would be the absolute Best..
@@KingCrimson82 Yes, it is a shame that Meta abandoned wired PCVR. I'd prefer a Rift S with 4K+ resolution and DP also, but Meta wants to funnel people into their ecosystem. Meta makes $0 for every SteamVR game purchased, but 30% of every sale from the Quest store.
I got already Q3 and using it for a while, and i like it. The face padding need an update and i am still waiting for good one. Got already other 3rd party solutions for controllers and headstrap.
Yes, the Q3 facecover is tragically uncomfortable...
Why does the Q3 look so much more washed out in ASSETTO CORSA than either the Q2 or QP? Did you use different LCD or graphic settings?
Great comparison. Thanks 😃
bought a only lightly used quest 2 for about 150.- so after seeing the comparison, an upgrade to a quest 3 doesn't seem that tempting. i think i'm going to wait for the quest 4.
Best PCVR is imo the Pimax Crystal, it´s expensive, but the image is so nice and clear
not wireless = suck
He is such a fun person to watch. 100% subscribed.
I can get only 2Gbps when using link on my Quest 3, That's with an RTX 3070 and i7 5820k. So, all in all, the dream I had of retiring my Rift S and using the quest 3 for PCVR as well as stand alone is all but dead. I'll try another cable and install a PCI-E USB 3.2 adapter in my PC. If anyone has any suggestions, I'd love to hear them!
The motion on the F1 start looks pretty bad on all of them, Q2 especially. Ugh.
every-time a quest comes out i check this channel to see if there is a Thru the lenses vid 🙏❤️
Why does the Quest 2 look like it has darker blacks? I find that kind of odd.
I have Q1, Q2, Q3, QP.
Q3 has a pure resolution and fov advantage.
QP has a contrast and pixel response advantage.
Q2 has a God Ray, battery advantage. Still very capable just it's easy to see the optical generations the Q3 is so dam sharp and the sweet spot is massive the Q2 has to be in just the right spot or it's going to give you a headache.
do u reccomend quest 2 for 300 dollars 128gb version new. will it be good for watching movies once in a while??
@@techneedsfixing8833 I don't think so, as the sweet spot is really tiny compared to what a pancake lens (Q3 and Pro) offers. You would only see the center of the image with clarity and more god rays whenever subtitles pop up. I would go with the Quest 3 which also offers higher resolution and really helps increase image quality. Also, bigger field of view, meaning more immersion and that you can see more of the movie frame without moving your head.