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@@Oliverjckson I'm not saying that folks shouldn't do that climb(?), I'm saying that I don't like this attitude to make light of a ten meter fall on solid rock. So I don't really see why you're cautioning me against doing it..? I mean I can't; that climb is a little above my pay grade. But I think I would give it a go if I was strong enough to feel secure, why not.
A great belayer could probably take in maybe a meter of additional slack in the time it takes to fall. Would still hit the ground. But the rope would be stretched and the speed heavily reduced. Even with no belayer, as in the test, the rope was fully stretched. Which implies that the speed at which it crashed would have been reduced.
I don't want to be a grammar nazi or something like that but I want you to know that: -cojones = being brave (slang for "testicles") -cajones = drawers (furniture)
Pete won't remember this but I had the rare privilege of witnessing Pete's ascents of Braille Trail and Dynamics of Change. I still don't think I've seen a move as wild as that rockover. On Braille Trail he had his mum belaying, and he was on his GCSE study leave. I think he told us he'd borrowed the gear from Outside, one of the pieces was a spanner, and when he couldn't get it in the slot he threw it away, and almost hit his mum! Amazing to see where he's taken that motivation over the years.
I appreciate how you look back at your reckless phase skeptically. Many extreme atheletes don't realize how lucky they are to not have been debilitated away from their career dreams. They wind up making their recklessness seem like their X factor, rather than the real X factor, which is discipline and respect for your own limits.
The prefrontal cortex matures from teens until around age of 25. Until then, we assess risks somewhat like a teenager still. I'm relieved you got through that period uninjured too !
This is absolute gold Pete. It's actually really interesting how hard these routes actually are. I'd wondered which way it was going to go, but couldn't call it before watching. Inspiring to see that they've stood the test of time and are still really bloody difficult (and not entirely safe, unless you're an egg on Dynamics of Change - in which case you're fine) 😂
I really like this...do we say camera work? I don't know. But you have a go-pro in hand showing us the holds. Then we have a wide shot from the camera man. And drone footage. This is very well done and it's really pulled me into what was happening.
top rope top rope top rope top rope top rope haha that original ascent was so good great to see you back on an old climb i thought about this route recently and wondered if anyone had repeated it, that rock over still looks desperate just eggcellent!
@@WideBoyz it was some time before Jacopo's recent ascent but other than that Im not sure. Would be interested to find out the story if you hear anything else about it.
@@RemusKnowles Come on; we all know that Pete actually did Dynamics in tricounis and it was his flailing right foot wot did it! I jest, of course, and was going to say that in nails it would have been beyond impressive, albeit a bit scratchy - until I remembered that it was already 'beyond impressive' in green Anasazi lace-ups.
😂 that’s why I never tried dynamics in the end. I fell off the braille trail move allot, could never quite get it wired enough to go for it. As I’ve always said, legend for doing it and amazing route.
Absolutely loved watching this! Dynamics of change is still one of my favourite hard climbing videos and it was great to see you grimacing your way through it once again!!
Am I the only one who thought the egg was "mullered"?! 😂 I'd never like to take that fall. Leg crusher. Wondeful video as alway lads. Insanely hard climb. World class stuff. Well done Pete.
I'd love to see Pete testing his grip strength against Schoolboy the arm wrestler - be great to see him on the channel. And Magnus' channel too. His grip is insane for a guy his size. Would be a lovely collab.
Just to clarify, Pete are you saying you'd never attempt to headpoint these routes again? Or other routes with similar risk? Sounds sensible Im just wondering more about how your mentality has changed over the years
I'd never headpoint dangerous routes I've done in the past, I'd rather put my mental energy into other things. I would do hard grit routes again,but only if the motivation is there. Currently I have no motivation for it. I have never considered myself as a risky climber,but I am a climber who has done highly dangerous things. I would still do a dangerous objective if the motivation was there and I could manage the risk to a level I'm now comfortable with. Back in 2020 i free soloed Kjerag (5 years after stopping all the hard/dangerous grit routes),a highly dangerous thing to do, but the level of risk involved was actually very low. Note: dangerous and risk are not the same. Hopefully that answers some questions 👍
In the grit world, usually yes. You can get away with it in the Lancashire quarried grit somewhat but not on the natural edges. Once it's gone, it's gone.
21:13 bruh yesterday i went out in the mountains, alone and climbed on a multipitch hat had only bolts like that but rusty the screw was lose on most of theme epic day i have to go back to finish the route i got freaked out after some big ass runout and decided to bail at the anchor
lol why did you expect the egg to survive? it had a LOT of travel in that plastic case. Your brain doesn't have like 10cm to accelerate towards your skull
Why use a Grigri to TR Solo? Is it for ease for setup? Surely you have a micro-trax, ascender, maybe even some fancy Rock Exocita...I'm just getting into TR soloing and trying to dial in my setup, using a grigri seems like a lot of extra work, and I'm concerned about shock loading it in a fall scenario where I haven't taken up slack in awhile. Great vid, watching you rework moves from your super-psyched 17 year old self really resonated with me. Cheers!
I've always used a gri gri for practicing moves on hard grit routes. If you can do the moves taking in as you go, leading always feels easier 😉 It's also useful for going up and down quickly
I realise you're tongue in cheek, but in seriousness, I think if you'd landed on your ass on the rock from Dynamics of Change, your spinal cord would be utterly destroyed. It'd be great to think "a good belayer would keep you off the floor", but it's asking a lot of them to keep you from worse than merely shattered legs. Nice to see more of these infamous climbs..!
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Big thanks to Hot Aches for the original footage of Baron Greenback and Dynamics of Change
The bag hits the rock from like 10 metres up and pete is sincerely like 'wasnt that bad' 😂 got to love the cajones on that man
I'm actually not a fan of that attitude. There are just so many dead or crippled; it leaves a weird taste in my mouth, so to speak.
@@jakobbauzdon’t do the climb in that case 😊
@@Oliverjckson I'm not saying that folks shouldn't do that climb(?), I'm saying that I don't like this attitude to make light of a ten meter fall on solid rock. So I don't really see why you're cautioning me against doing it..? I mean I can't; that climb is a little above my pay grade. But I think I would give it a go if I was strong enough to feel secure, why not.
A great belayer could probably take in maybe a meter of additional slack in the time it takes to fall. Would still hit the ground. But the rope would be stretched and the speed heavily reduced.
Even with no belayer, as in the test, the rope was fully stretched. Which implies that the speed at which it crashed would have been reduced.
I don't want to be a grammar nazi or something like that but I want you to know that:
-cojones = being brave (slang for "testicles")
-cajones = drawers (furniture)
Pete won't remember this but I had the rare privilege of witnessing Pete's ascents of Braille Trail and Dynamics of Change. I still don't think I've seen a move as wild as that rockover. On Braille Trail he had his mum belaying, and he was on his GCSE study leave. I think he told us he'd borrowed the gear from Outside, one of the pieces was a spanner, and when he couldn't get it in the slot he threw it away, and almost hit his mum! Amazing to see where he's taken that motivation over the years.
Were you one of the guys on Burbage South boulders when I did Dynamics?
@@WideBoyz that's the one
Your comment gave me the biggest laugh of the whole video 🤣
Wow, and my Mum won't even look at pictures of me climbing
@@davidpleydell3522ditto!
I appreciate how you look back at your reckless phase skeptically. Many extreme atheletes don't realize how lucky they are to not have been debilitated away from their career dreams. They wind up making their recklessness seem like their X factor, rather than the real X factor, which is discipline and respect for your own limits.
The prefrontal cortex matures from teens until around age of 25. Until then, we assess risks somewhat like a teenager still.
I'm relieved you got through that period uninjured too !
This is absolute gold Pete. It's actually really interesting how hard these routes actually are. I'd wondered which way it was going to go, but couldn't call it before watching. Inspiring to see that they've stood the test of time and are still really bloody difficult (and not entirely safe, unless you're an egg on Dynamics of Change - in which case you're fine) 😂
I really like this...do we say camera work? I don't know. But you have a go-pro in hand showing us the holds. Then we have a wide shot from the camera man. And drone footage. This is very well done and it's really pulled me into what was happening.
This egg test is peak content
This literally was Peak content
top rope top rope top rope top rope top rope haha that original ascent was so good great to see you back on an old climb i thought about this route recently and wondered if anyone had repeated it, that rock over still looks desperate just eggcellent!
Dynamics of Change has been repeated once by local legend Nige Kershaw. Bigger Baron hasn't been repeated
Did the E stand for Egg all along?
8:29 the realisation of mortaility as you get older in full effect there!
"The head is fine... the legs are broken." Real Attenborough vibes 🙌
The cheekiest chuckle in all of climbing! Always loving your energy and humour Pete (plus your climbing ability)...
Little brucey bonus shot of the broken parthian hold @13:35 👀
Have you heard anything of when/how that happened remus?
@@WideBoyz it was some time before Jacopo's recent ascent but other than that Im not sure. Would be interested to find out the story if you hear anything else about it.
@@RemusKnowles Come on; we all know that Pete actually did Dynamics in tricounis and it was his flailing right foot wot did it! I jest, of course, and was going to say that in nails it would have been beyond impressive, albeit a bit scratchy - until I remembered that it was already 'beyond impressive' in green Anasazi lace-ups.
😂 that’s why I never tried dynamics in the end. I fell off the braille trail move allot, could never quite get it wired enough to go for it. As I’ve always said, legend for doing it and amazing route.
Hope you're doing well Rich 👍
"I'm not quite sure what would happen to you" is such an omen 😂
Don't mess with grit!
Absolutely loved watching this! Dynamics of change is still one of my favourite hard climbing videos and it was great to see you grimacing your way through it once again!!
For my money it is the best bit of rock climbing ever filmed in the entire history of the sport. How can any sport climbing footage hope to compete?
I wasn’t eggspecting that either 👀
Whenn Pete opened the box, I genuinely heard: "I wasn't egg-specting that" :D
Thanks!
Thank you 😎
Awesome to see you work the crux on dynamics of change, one of my all time fave first ascents
Fun to go back to it all those years later!
Yes, back in the grid. Love it. Please more videos. So good.
Am I the only one who thought the egg was "mullered"?! 😂
I'd never like to take that fall. Leg crusher.
Wondeful video as alway lads.
Insanely hard climb. World class stuff. Well done Pete.
I never realised that the "E" stood for Egg! You learn something new everyday :)
Pete's head 2, aka Pete's dinner didn't break....but I think the legs would get a bashing...! Ballsy, Young Pete!
More climbing from egg please!
New t shirt design looks awesome!
Give the people what they want! What they want is more hard and scary trad! Love this style of video.
I laughed way too hard at Pete's broken Egg Head. Great video! Great "science "!
14:40 you originally had your feet much lower for the dyno in the old clips, so it meant you had to go less distance
huh so the E in the grading system is short for Egg... Very educational
Can't wait to see you try this again in a decade
I'd love to see Pete testing his grip strength against Schoolboy the arm wrestler - be great to see him on the channel. And Magnus' channel too.
His grip is insane for a guy his size.
Would be a lovely collab.
Done plenty of videos with magnus. Check out his Wide Boyz Playlist 👍
@@WideBoyz Yeah seen them all! Haha.
Great video. Good to hear about your earlier accents given the internet want around when they were done v really interesting. Do some more!
"This is making really good sense to me right now" 😂
I watched that gritstone suction noise bit like 8 times
😂😂
Just to clarify, Pete are you saying you'd never attempt to headpoint these routes again? Or other routes with similar risk? Sounds sensible Im just wondering more about how your mentality has changed over the years
I would also be very interested in some sort of "chronology of your mentality" in terms of risks, the sport itself, etc.
I'd never headpoint dangerous routes I've done in the past, I'd rather put my mental energy into other things.
I would do hard grit routes again,but only if the motivation is there. Currently I have no motivation for it.
I have never considered myself as a risky climber,but I am a climber who has done highly dangerous things. I would still do a dangerous objective if the motivation was there and I could manage the risk to a level I'm now comfortable with.
Back in 2020 i free soloed Kjerag (5 years after stopping all the hard/dangerous grit routes),a highly dangerous thing to do, but the level of risk involved was actually very low.
Note: dangerous and risk are not the same.
Hopefully that answers some questions 👍
Nice climbs & like a bit of bag science 👍
Eggy 2 was surprised it survived (scrambled, boiled or fryed ? 😀)
For the algorithm really
"the head is fine, the legs are broken" sick
14:40 Muscle memory works over years ... here is the proove!
Can I ask a super beginner question, what device is being used to abseil and then attempt sections of the route, whilst on top rope?
Oh no his lunch it’s broken😅
I think the first drop hit the side of the bag so had no padding. The second hit the bottom with a lot more padding.
Which climbing shoes is he wearing (e.g. at 4:05)?
Looks like Unparallel Up Rise
At first I thought the thumbnail was some crazy good midjourney work 😂
If the bolts are already there, would it be unethical to replace them?
In the grit world, usually yes. You can get away with it in the Lancashire quarried grit somewhat but not on the natural edges. Once it's gone, it's gone.
Petes face in the thumbnail 😂
Great video!
I'm glad you guys aren't engineers designing helmets, though. 😂
how does the egg test fit in with Tom's new e-grader system?
What an amazing watch!
I always knew the 'E' in the grading system stood for Egg
new way to grade climbs, the egg test 🤣
Really enjoyed this one!
I'm so happy for Pete's head 2
Now for the most important question?
What do you think, would be the "O-Grades" for these routes?
Great video! What device were you using to top rope solo at around 5.30?
Grigri
The drop test was on the wrong kind of route and a pristine chance for a "this is your brain on crack" quip has now been missed.
did you do those both ground up back in the day Pete?
I've got one burning question watching these solo climbs: how do you anchor your rope at the top?
Flippin awesome!
Great video
2nd route is amazing
Great video. Love the idea of revisiting your old routes.
Niche question, but what rucksack is that?
patagonia cragsmith
"the egg is fine. the legs are broken" - famous words of an eggphilic person before an unfortunate accident
Humpty Dumpty really shouldn't have taken to rock climbing.
Just curious why use a gri gri original for working the route?
I've always used a gri gri for working routes and can't find my gri gri 2.
Love this video
Was it miles from tree fellas that gave you a rollicking for doing the e9 start ?
really enjoyed that
Love the solid science💪🙌😅
‘I wasn’t eggspecting that’
One is more Egg-streme than the other!
Sad; the shirt pete os wearing is allready out of stock in XL. Will it come back?
Yes it will be back in stock soon
Yes it will be back in stock soon
"Pete's Brain". Was that actual size?
Can anyone see exactly which device he was using when working the tr? Looks a little like a ropeman.
Nvm found a closeup. I can't believe its a grigri hahahahahaha. Pete sure is ballsy. At least I finally found his stopper knot. Makes me feel better.
You would be surprised how a solid injury can slow you down a bit.
Did modern climbing shoes make the footwork any easier.
Whats for dinner? Pete's head #2.
Pete wasn't eggspecting that
21:13 bruh yesterday i went out in the mountains, alone and climbed on a multipitch hat had only bolts like that but rusty the screw was lose on most of theme
epic day i have to go back to finish the route i got freaked out after some big ass runout and decided to bail at the anchor
fantastic climber! does. the uk proud with his good attitude and bodacious accents.
Doubt it 😮
Toprope toprope toperoooope. They never found the body of the guy who put those bolts in Wimbery.
I had no idea your route , Braille trail and Parthian shot were on the same crag so cool
Many great routes at Burbage South
So the E in grading stands for "egg"... Who knew!
That thumbnail though, lmao.
The brain isn't totally loose in the skull like the egg in the tupperware😊
the older Pete gets, the more he sounds like Tom
Cracking! 😂
what device do you use to toprope-belay yourself?
We now know what the E stands for
I wasn't eggspecting that actually...
lol why did you expect the egg to survive? it had a LOT of travel in that plastic case. Your brain doesn't have like 10cm to accelerate towards your skull
Ya gotta get on ned zepplin for a second ascent petey boy
I like trains...
Steam trains 🚂 poop poop
E10 deez nuts, got em
Why use a Grigri to TR Solo? Is it for ease for setup? Surely you have a micro-trax, ascender, maybe even some fancy Rock Exocita...I'm just getting into TR soloing and trying to dial in my setup, using a grigri seems like a lot of extra work, and I'm concerned about shock loading it in a fall scenario where I haven't taken up slack in awhile. Great vid, watching you rework moves from your super-psyched 17 year old self really resonated with me. Cheers!
I've always used a gri gri for practicing moves on hard grit routes. If you can do the moves taking in as you go, leading always feels easier 😉
It's also useful for going up and down quickly
0:12 OK zohan
Let's gooo :D
Wasn't eggspecting that
I realise you're tongue in cheek, but in seriousness, I think if you'd landed on your ass on the rock from Dynamics of Change, your spinal cord would be utterly destroyed. It'd be great to think "a good belayer would keep you off the floor", but it's asking a lot of them to keep you from worse than merely shattered legs. Nice to see more of these infamous climbs..!