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  • Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
  • There are so many ways to become a professional pilot. I took the collegiate path, combining my flight training with an aviation degree. Regardless of where you'd like to go to school, this video will cover the things you should know before you start researching specific programs. Cost is a major factor, and you can end up with nearly identical career opportunities regardless of where you go to school... So be extremely cautious choosing any school that's significantly more expensive in comparison to other options!
    I personally went to the University of North Dakota and LOVED it! My professors became mentors and the friends I made will last a lifetime. There's nowhere else quite like collegiate aviation degree programs, where you get to be surrounded by hundreds of people passionate about the same thing you are, plus get a normal college experience!
    Operating one of the largest civilian flight training fleets in the world, UND Aerospace flies over 120,000 flight hours per year and has trained over 10,000 professional pilots to date. The John D. Odegard School of Aerospace Sciences houses the primary college, located in Grand Forks, North Dakota. And if you're looking for a 2-year college option of a 12-month fast-track course, the Phoenix campus has programs for you. Click the links below to learn more!
    UND Aerospace, Grand Forks: aero.und.edu/
    UND Aerosapace, Phoenix: airlinepilot.training/
    Video Chapters:
    0:00 Why Choose A College Program?
    1:51 Extra Time Commitment For Flight Students
    2:39 Airline Pathway Programs
    3:00 Why Choose Part 141 Training?
    4:26 The UND Aerospace Experience
    5:04 Don't Train Past Your PPL Before College
    5:46 UND Phoenix - Additional Training Options
    6:17 Types Of Aviation Degrees
    6:46 Networking Is Valuable
    7:33 Understanding Finances
    8:57 The Wrap-Up!
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    Content Credit:
    - UND Aerospace B-Roll
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    What else do you want to learn about being a pilot? Leave me a comment below!
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    Thanks for watching!
    -Swayne Martin
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  • @SwayneMartinPilot
    @SwayneMartinPilot  2 года назад +70

    What else do you want to learn about becoming a professional pilot?

    • @ottawaemergencyvideography
      @ottawaemergencyvideography 2 года назад +4

      I don’t know!?

    • @aishwaryasinha2005
      @aishwaryasinha2005 2 года назад +2

      How do u manage ur flight when there's firecrackers going on?

    • @willhyde3
      @willhyde3 2 года назад +10

      I would love to see a video about the different cadet programs offered by airlines and regionals.

    • @sebasnyc4045
      @sebasnyc4045 2 года назад +3

      Can you fly if you have ADHD?

    • @mjstcyt2006
      @mjstcyt2006 2 года назад

      Is Aeronautical Engineering a good degree?

  • @tsky2983
    @tsky2983 Год назад +107

    Sometimes I feel so behind and alone trying to be a pilot, I feel like I’m never going to make it but you make me feel a bit better

    • @IamINERT
      @IamINERT Год назад +16

      20 year old here
      we will get through it

    • @carterwilliams419
      @carterwilliams419 Год назад +3

      You and me both man want to be a usaf fighter pilot so bad but feel like I won’t make it 😭

    • @alexandramsh4740
      @alexandramsh4740 Год назад +4

      @@carterwilliams419 I believe that if we work hard in pursuing our chosen career, it’s possible! Just as Swayne reiterated, “planning is the key!” My best to you. Xx

    • @dashydoggo
      @dashydoggo Год назад +1

      @@IamINERT 20y/o here as well

    • @michaelballard9773
      @michaelballard9773 Год назад +1

      18 year old here good luck to all of us we can all do it 💪

  • @JH-jt9qk
    @JH-jt9qk Год назад +47

    Graduated from UND in 2003. Excellent school and loved all the flying there. Did the CFI, AF Reserve route and ended up with my dream job at FedEx on the MD-11 and now the 777. It truly is an amazing career. Hope you have a wonderful career at UAL!!

    • @rock5454
      @rock5454 Год назад +1

      you MD-11 pilots are menaces 😭

    • @JH-jt9qk
      @JH-jt9qk Год назад

      @@rock5454 how’s that??

    • @StrictlySports
      @StrictlySports Год назад

      Why cargo so lame bro

    • @MrNapster15
      @MrNapster15 Год назад +2

      If I may ask how exactly did the air force Reserve route go for you, this is the route I plan to take!

    • @JH-jt9qk
      @JH-jt9qk Год назад +3

      @@MrNapster15 it has been an amazing career in the AFR. About to retire in 16 months once I have 20 years. Best of luck to you!

  • @boogerwood
    @boogerwood Год назад +53

    As the father of a high school senior who has decided this is the path he wants to follow, we have done a tremendous amount of research. Right now the feeling is pretty much 50-50 split between go to college versus going straight to an accelerated program like ATP. The argument for going straight to a program like ATP is that as you are building hours, you can work on a degree that may or may not be aviation related but would serve as a back up career in the event of something altering your career course. I think the advantages of college program speak for themselves. But I do agree that if you’re choosing an aviation degree, steer away from the professional pilot. That degree is only good for that career. Choose the aviation management, or airport management, or maintenance if you find a school that offers it. Those are at least degrees that will serve you for a back up career. Take my conclusions for what they are. My research. Please do your own and consider all the options for what works best for you and your finances. If you were looking at a career, it is perfectly understandable why you would want to rush the process in order to build your tenure as soon as possible with the carrier. Don’t forget, college must serve a purpose. A degree by itself is worth no more than the paper it is printed on. It’s what you do that ultimately matters. It’s the training that ultimately matters. Until they reinstate degrees as a requirement for employment, now is the time to properly assess the value. Good luck, Godspeed, and safe flying!

    • @boogerwood
      @boogerwood Год назад +1

      @@Me37368 I have recently talked to students actively going through the program and confirm most of what you say. For the most part they will get you the hours and they will get you an instructor to teach you the practical but everything is totally on your own. Also I believe you are correct 21 years old for the restricted which will allow you to be first officer on a regional carrier. Then you have to build up experience age and time to be captain.

    • @__________________-________-
      @__________________-________- Год назад +2

      Thanks for this, I am a highschool sophmore, my dream is to be a pilot of some sorts, likely commercial and i just started getting into research on how colleges work and all this. Its alot and im a bit overwhelmed. I am trying to figure out the best course for my future career. I hope your son makes it well

    • @TravisMeyerPhD
      @TravisMeyerPhD 5 месяцев назад +1

      I would add that many Professional Flight programs also have dual majors available, which is what I would suggest.

    • @matthewcasas3155
      @matthewcasas3155 3 месяца назад

      Hey I have some serious questions

    • @mrsir6112
      @mrsir6112 6 дней назад

      You can always double major or minor in something else. Theres a reason why und Perdue and embry riddle are also considered world class where ATP is just a scam. If you don’t want to do a 141 college then stay part 61

  • @jaydenstrickland9162
    @jaydenstrickland9162 2 года назад +59

    I got my certificate at a part 61 school in high school then went to college where I majored in aviation. I honestly think that is the best way to do it. You get a taste of both types of flight training, and save a little bit of money along the way.

    • @carsonknott9884
      @carsonknott9884 2 года назад +2

      Since you already had your PPL going into college what did your first year of college look like? Did you still have to take PPL classes your freshman year or did you substitute classes for them?

    • @jaydenstrickland9162
      @jaydenstrickland9162 2 года назад +4

      @@carsonknott9884 I took a credit by exam test which was essentially a private pilot written test.

    • @jaydenstrickland9162
      @jaydenstrickland9162 2 года назад +2

      First quarter was all aviation classes and the second two quarters of my freshman yeah had a General Education class tossed in

    • @carsonknott9884
      @carsonknott9884 2 года назад

      @@jaydenstrickland9162 so you basically had to take your PPL written test again when you got there to get the credit?

    • @thecomedypilot5894
      @thecomedypilot5894 2 года назад

      @@jaydenstrickland9162 I don't have a PPL but I do have a couple hours logged in a Cessna as part of an "experimental flight" so would you say that even though I don't have a certificate, it's still helpful that I have some hours logged in the book?

  • @Emily_Quinn
    @Emily_Quinn 2 года назад +5

    Just watched an excellent UND Aviation Ad on RUclips without skipping!
    Thanks Swayne! Love from Fargo, ND!

  • @speedybird24
    @speedybird24 2 года назад +11

    Swayne, from a non-aviation family thank you for your videos especially the early ones. My son is in the Aviation program at UND and currently finishing his Junior year. Just like you he was 1 yr out-of-state and then went in-state to help with the costs. Even did the LLC at Noren Hall for 1yr. Can't wait to see what comes next!!

  • @kenstevenson4133
    @kenstevenson4133 2 года назад +1

    Great video. I passed along to my niece in Calgary Alberta. Just completed her privates on her way to commercial at the local aviation college. Keep up the inspirational vids, she enjoyed this as well.

  • @thesheetmusicman
    @thesheetmusicman 2 года назад +3

    Great video! I will be starting flight training in my first semester at UND in the fall! Happy flying!

  • @rookiepilot.rp1
    @rookiepilot.rp1 2 года назад +7

    The final 2 minutes of this were spot on:
    For many heading to an aviation specific college will open up access to Title 4 financial aid which can be used to pay for flight costs because it's part of your degree completion requirements.
    (Think Pell Grant, Stafford loans and of course the infamous PLUS loan)
    If you're like many of us who've grown up in financially strapped families, then the barrier to enter this field is 💰
    Terrific video Swayne

  • @nathananderson03
    @nathananderson03 Год назад

    You have Inspired me to start a journey in Aviation! Thank you for making these Videos to help us grow in becoming a great pilot!

  • @duncanstalberg6078
    @duncanstalberg6078 2 года назад

    I really liked this video and would love to see more of these as it helps people like me getting towards the end of high school decide the best path to a aviation programs. Thanks!!

  • @SamEckholm
    @SamEckholm 2 года назад +18

    Makes me wish I went to flight school haha. Great vid Swayne!

  • @joeyleagjeld
    @joeyleagjeld 2 года назад +8

    I've been watching your videos for years, and starting in the fall, I will start following my dream. I will be attending UND! I even qualified for starting flight lessons first semester. I cannot wait

  • @LizardDoggo
    @LizardDoggo 2 года назад +2

    Thank you soooo much for the video! Very informative!

  • @susiew6851
    @susiew6851 2 года назад +2

    You are such an amazing person. You produce great and informative videos.

  • @karlkascha1261
    @karlkascha1261 2 года назад

    Great informational video for someone who wants to break into the aviation industry as a pilot. You have real insight Swayne. You are old beyond your years. I would definitely feel comfortable flying with you, even though you are a youngster.

  • @wesvdell
    @wesvdell 2 года назад +1

    Great video, keep it up Swayne!

  • @FreedomFlight1
    @FreedomFlight1 2 года назад +1

    Exceptional video Swayne

  • @robert28844
    @robert28844 2 года назад +3

    Awesome video. I also went thru the commercial aviation degree at UND. Thanks for awesome video in the promotion of UND. And for glimpse of the Ala mater these days.

    • @robert28844
      @robert28844 2 года назад

      This program helped me greatly for my career at Hawaiian Airlines.

  • @stephanrichard69
    @stephanrichard69 2 года назад +4

    Great video Swayne and love learning about the piloting side. Hope you can do a video to focus on the operations side/ flight planning side. I would like to become a flight dispatcher and would love to learn an in depth video if you can?

  • @farfetch7
    @farfetch7 Год назад

    Always continue to learn!

  • @Slavking03
    @Slavking03 Год назад

    Love the content, keep posting!

  • @debbyf
    @debbyf 2 года назад

    Another great video:) I just applied for jobs at Envoy and thanks for the insight in your past production.

  • @tfprusd
    @tfprusd Год назад

    Great video, thanks!

  • @mikercflyer7383
    @mikercflyer7383 2 года назад +1

    Great information Swayne I wish at least one of my grandsons would have followed your career but if you don’t have it in your gut I guess there is no fire. Looking for more of your great videos.

  • @mikemccue8698
    @mikemccue8698 Год назад +5

    Mankato State student here! Just a little update for those considering doing flight training through a college program, a lot of airlines have brought their required hours down to 950 now!

    • @badgermoon9229
      @badgermoon9229 Год назад

      Thanks, I wasn't aware of that.

    • @mrsir6112
      @mrsir6112 6 дней назад

      @@badgermoon9229 it’s because when you finish their flight training you’ll have 1000 hrs with the RATP so it’s not really that different

  • @nicswensgard
    @nicswensgard 2 года назад +52

    I got into UND and Embry Riddle for there aviation program, I only have a couple gripes with it. First off, you can’t get loans for the flying itself so you either have to come from a wealthy family or somehow get a third party loan for 100k. The overall cost of the programs are around 280k, that’s not very accessible to the majority of the population even if you get a deans scholarship. And secondly, the airline industry isn’t very stable. That being said it would be a better option to get a degree you can use for a different job in case the industry drops or you loose your medical and you find Urself not able to fly. But, if you have the resources for it by all means aviation colleges will provide some great quality training. But don’t think these are the only way to get to your goals. There are plenty of other schools that are great as well.

    • @SwayneMartinPilot
      @SwayneMartinPilot  2 года назад +23

      Some good points! The numbers are a little off, at least for UND. If you pay 1 year out of state, 3 years in-state (automatic after living 12 months in ND), and then pay the average cost for flight trianing, the total comes out to aorund $140,000, or half of the $280K you mentioned... Which is why I went to school where I did. I can't speak for the other school you mentioned, but it is significantly more expensive for the same outcome.

    • @nicswensgard
      @nicswensgard 2 года назад +2

      @@SwayneMartinPilot I see, thanks for the clarification. My numbers were from Embry Riddle. Apologies for the misinformation on UNDs end.

    • @tscottme
      @tscottme 2 года назад +10

      @@nicswensgard Your numbers are pretty accurate for Embry-Riddle. 10 or 15 years ago Riddle seemed to start catering to wealthy foreign students and their prices exploded. Phoeniz East Aviation is a big Part 141 school across the street from ERAU. You can get a Riddle Degree in anything, and get all of your ratings from one of the Part 141 flight schools nearby. The only big advantage UND and ERAU offer is the network connection to the industry. The airlines are never going to forget to recruit at UND and ERAU. If I was doing it all over, I would go to my nearby state university, get a degree in anything, and fly at the nearest Part 141 school. NOBODY in the industry cares about your school or who taught you to fly. Save your money and get everything finished as soon as possible to get hired (get seniority) ASAP. Seniority is the most important thing in the industry for pilots.

    • @calebhill4841
      @calebhill4841 2 года назад +4

      I’ve always been able to get student loans and put them directly towards flight training at UND.

    • @Freefire-re1qp
      @Freefire-re1qp Год назад +1

      @Nic Swensgard hey bro could u tell me what were the requirements to get in UND ,like minimum SAT score?

  • @SpaceCaptainDR
    @SpaceCaptainDR 2 года назад

    Excellent and informative! Thanks for the advice in saving money $$$

  • @GAdiveguy
    @GAdiveguy 2 года назад +10

    Great video, Swayne! Very informational. Having put a child through aviation college in GA, I can agree with everything you said - particularly about the costs and having a solid plan before you start.

  • @TaliyahP
    @TaliyahP 2 года назад +2

    I got my PPL privately but the fact that flight training costs are included in tuition (and therefore cheaper for me) and the pathway program really sold me. I'll be starting this September!

  • @Calebs_Aviation
    @Calebs_Aviation Год назад

    I attend the Western Michigan University College Of Aviation and yes! I can say that college aviation programs are pretty epic!!
    Cheers 🥂
    Love flying especially the Cirrus SR-20 that WMU College of Aviation flies!

  • @lorancemorrison9100
    @lorancemorrison9100 2 года назад +1

    Our son attends BGSU and loves it. He’s a freshman and is working on his multi/commercial currently. He arrived with his pvt and several hundred hours so he’s moving quickly in an attempt to get his CFII and MEI to help pay for this. We give credit to his pt 61 instructor at home who taught our son in our plane where he learned lots of real world flying. We love you videos because they give up and coming pilots a snap shot of how you got where your are today. Thanks

    • @robbiereeb5724
      @robbiereeb5724 5 месяцев назад

      He’s working on multi freshman year danggg😳

  • @marshallsmith259
    @marshallsmith259 2 года назад +9

    UND Phoenix is GOATED. Heavily recommend going there.

  • @randyscott1496
    @randyscott1496 2 года назад +3

    Great video, Swayne. Answered a lot of questions. I always enjoy your vids.

  • @FlyersAviation
    @FlyersAviation 2 года назад +1

    Fantastic Video Swayne! Is it possible if you can look into posting a video on Part 141 Schools such as ATP & others as another option?

  • @aviation_tw886
    @aviation_tw886 2 года назад

    Thanks for sharing 😍😍😍

  • @southwest1243
    @southwest1243 2 года назад

    Hey Swayne, I live not to far from the UND location out at Mesa-Gateway. Thanks for mentioning it!

  • @sirjasonakana
    @sirjasonakana 2 года назад

    Great video

  • @saltandpepper4u
    @saltandpepper4u 2 года назад +4

    I recognize almost all of the UND PHX instructors in this video. I'll be done with the program here in the next few months.

  • @joel1239871
    @joel1239871 2 года назад

    Great video! I don't believe anyone else has done this.

  • @andrewmorton1237
    @andrewmorton1237 Год назад

    Very informative 👍

  • @The_Capt_Price
    @The_Capt_Price 2 года назад +1

    Great video! I show this to all of my (Part 61) students to really help them get an idea of the college pathway to airline pilot. It presents another option for after they complete their PPL.

  • @thecomedypilot5894
    @thecomedypilot5894 2 года назад +6

    I got accepted into UND last summer and am really excited for it

    • @thesheetmusicman
      @thesheetmusicman 2 года назад +2

      I will also be a freshman at UND this fall! For commercial Aviation! We should connect!

    • @thecomedypilot5894
      @thecomedypilot5894 2 года назад +1

      ​@@thesheetmusicman Hey that's awesome! I'm looking forward to meeting our fellow aviators up there so for sure we should get to know each other, I honestly can't wait to start flying!

    • @gbma3241
      @gbma3241 8 месяцев назад

      How has it been so far? How often do you fly every week?

    • @gbma3241
      @gbma3241 8 месяцев назад

      @@thesheetmusicmanhow has it been for you also? How often do you fly?

    • @thecomedypilot5894
      @thecomedypilot5894 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@gbma3241 Hi! So firstly, it's been going great! I've started my sophomore year, and I already got my pilots license and am currently working on my instrument rating. Typically, when it comes to how often you fly, it depends on what flight course you're taking and the availability of your flight instructor. Some courses like the private pilot course and the instrument course automatically gives you three flight launches per week for whatever time you choose. For other courses, you only fly whenever you and your instructor are available. Over summer months you can fly around 5-6 times a week. I got lucky this fall semester and was able to fly nearly every day since me and my instructor had a lot of availability.
      During the normal academic semesters, I would say you will for sure be flying 3-4 times per week. Keep in mind though that weather could alter your plans and some lessons are briefing and simulators rather than actual flights, but overall, you will for sure fly several times per week!
      Hope that helps, let me know if you need any more info or have any other questions!

  • @salehvxr
    @salehvxr Год назад +1

    i remember watching him go back and forth in behind the simulators for that take.

  • @geno8154
    @geno8154 2 года назад

    Anxiously awaiting your big announcement.

  • @St0rm08
    @St0rm08 2 года назад

    Was a helicopter CFI stuck, after my flight school I was instructing at went under due to Covid here in AZ. Found UND and they helped me get a custom course to get my addons! Cant say enough good things about UND.

  • @mrsir6112
    @mrsir6112 6 дней назад

    Ok so small side note I also went in with my privates but do some training beyond that if you know it’s for you. Definitely fly some instrument approaches and do some lazy eights, eights on pylons steep spirals and maybe hop in a multi engine if you can. Just take the checkride.
    having a basic understanding of approach plates and how to Hold and all that was a phenomenal help when I took the instrument course

  • @samuelwirstrom8103
    @samuelwirstrom8103 2 года назад

    Just an idea for future video for another way to be a pilot and go airline. A video on the military track and also mention the guard/reserve track. It’s a track a lot of folks don’t consider but can be very beneficial.

    • @SwayneMartinPilot
      @SwayneMartinPilot  2 года назад

      Yep! I made one about the military track when I flew with the Thunderbirds - It’s on my profile

    • @samuelwirstrom8103
      @samuelwirstrom8103 2 года назад

      @@SwayneMartinPilot yup saw it! I was thinking more of visiting an Air Force Reserve or Air National Guard organization and also show that you can fly for the airlines both in conjunction.

  • @BobandKara
    @BobandKara 2 года назад +3

    Great video! Do you think AA will ever fly into GFK? Would love to see it someday!

  • @Operator-Nova
    @Operator-Nova 2 года назад

    I appreciate you coming to speak at my alma matter, California Aeronautical University! You really don’t appreciate how good a Restricted ATP at 1000 hours is until you start working towards your Part 141 Commercial License.

  • @srglover08
    @srglover08 2 года назад +6

    I study Aviation Management at Utah Valley University. Our program also offers a Professional Pilot degree. Reasonable tuition prices. Only 30 credit difference between degrees. Provides a great fall back plan.

    • @aidansoto5857
      @aidansoto5857 2 года назад

      UVU student here as well :)

    • @NickBennett6
      @NickBennett6 9 месяцев назад

      Do you still do flight training as well?

  • @Weouthere805
    @Weouthere805 Год назад

    I’m transferring to UND North Dakota in may. I’ve been flying in Mesa AZ for the last two years getting my ppl instrument commercial and multi. Excited to go up north!

    • @gbma3241
      @gbma3241 8 месяцев назад

      How has it been? How often are you flying every week?

    • @Weouthere805
      @Weouthere805 7 месяцев назад

      @@gbma3241 so far I’ve been able to fly 4 to 5 times a week. Weather hasn’t been an issue it’s mid October and so far so good.

  • @adrianomarques1576
    @adrianomarques1576 2 года назад

    Excellent information. I wish information was this accessible when I was younger. Have you transitioned to The major airlines yet? Great content.

  • @AKSURFS
    @AKSURFS 2 года назад

    Excellent video, massive like from me ✨

  • @mikelouispr6270
    @mikelouispr6270 2 года назад +4

    The next video should be you sharing with us your journey as you prepare to fly the Boeing 777 for United Airlines.

  • @matthewpruitt982
    @matthewpruitt982 2 года назад

    Toured UND, and a number of other flight programs. I ended up at Western Michigan, however I truly believe the quality of education and training received is very aligned due to reduced ATP training guidelines.

  • @petertarantelli
    @petertarantelli 2 года назад +2

    Well made video Swayne…I know many will find the content very useful!

  • @isaacparadis7951
    @isaacparadis7951 2 года назад +6

    I'm so lucky to live in ND and have a dream of becoming and airline pilot. It's only an hour drive from where I live to UND!

  • @XyrousCooper
    @XyrousCooper Год назад

    I’m a freshman at Elizabeth City State University in North Carolina majoring in Aviation Science with a concentration in Flight Education. We’re a Part 141 school that’s growing rapidly and fly out of the Coast Guard Air Station that’s just 7 minutes away from campus. Our program is AABI Accredited and has close ties to CSPI and United Aviate. It’s also one of the most affordable schools at $500 Tuition for instate and $2500 Tuition out of state. They have it set up for us to be CFI’s when we finish the program with Private, Instrument, Commercial, and Multi ratings and have the capability to obtain ATP’s at 1,000 hours. I’m definitely very happy with the program and have learned so much and developed in just 1 semester. Definitely an option to consider. We also have a UAS complex, ATC Lab, Avionics program, and Professional Aeronautics tracks available. It’s definitely a well rounded aviation program and is definitely a great option up and coming aviation enthusiasts that are looking to enter the industry should consider.

    • @gbma3241
      @gbma3241 8 месяцев назад

      How are you liking it so far and how often are you flying every week?

  • @aaronriley03
    @aaronriley03 2 года назад +15

    Great video Swayne! I've been a long time subscriber and your videos have really been inspiring and informative. I am transitioning out of the Marine Corps and I am planning on using my Post 9/11 GI Bill to cover my cost of the flight labs and tuition at The Ohio State University next fall. Keep up the great content, I'm looking forward to seeing what's next for you!

    • @bridgestaco7180
      @bridgestaco7180 2 года назад +2

      Same scenario here starting this fall at Middle Tennessee State. Best of luck to you Aaron 🤙🏼

    • @austinsmith4558
      @austinsmith4558 2 года назад

      Hey Aaron! By next Fall do you mean fall '22 or fall '23? Only reason I ask is because I currently in the navy and my current plan is to do the same thing at OSU! I don't get out until next year though so hopefully I will start in fall 2023!

    • @aaronriley03
      @aaronriley03 2 года назад

      @@austinsmith4558 That is awesome! I'll be starting here in a few months for the Fall '22 semester. I can let you know how everything goes after this Fall. So far I've received a few emails about the program being backed up due to a shortage of instructors so I'm estimating it may take 5 years instead of 4 years to complete the program.

    • @austinsmith4558
      @austinsmith4558 2 года назад +1

      @@aaronriley03 oh wow! Yeah you'll have to let me know if you remember! Also, do you know for sure if the Post 9/11 GI Bill covers tuition and flight training? Or would it just cover tuition/housing/books like normal?

    • @PodRoe.
      @PodRoe. 2 года назад

      YOO SAME HERE!
      After I finish my boot camp and AIT for the National Guard, I plan to use my Ohio National Guard Scholarship to cover my tuition at OSU!
      Hope to see you there in 2023, homie :)
      - Pedro Ornelas

  • @chase.b2967
    @chase.b2967 Год назад

    I’m currently working on my a&p and associates degree at a local community college and am planning on using my experience and job to fund my flight training.

  • @jeffbaumgartner7280
    @jeffbaumgartner7280 2 года назад +2

    Great Video! As an Alum - Way to represent UND well.

  • @krishinds4617
    @krishinds4617 2 года назад +1

    Great information! A two for one kind of thing (even though you’re still paying for it).

  • @Klaatu-ij9uz
    @Klaatu-ij9uz 2 года назад

    "Out-of-the-Park" episode!👍✔

  • @frankiedee3122
    @frankiedee3122 7 месяцев назад

    I love this video. I’m in the aviation program at Purdue University. I believe that having a degree is a bonus.

    • @aerofiles5044
      @aerofiles5044 5 месяцев назад

      How is your experience at Purdue so far? Currently debating between Purdue and UND (if I get into Purdue of course).

    • @bl4zex781
      @bl4zex781 3 месяца назад

      in purdue is there aviation management degree? can you answer this please!

    • @aerofiles5044
      @aerofiles5044 3 месяца назад

      @@bl4zex781 Yes. You can look up information relating to degree offerings.

  • @tscottme
    @tscottme 2 года назад

    I graduated Embry-Riddle with Aerospace Studies/Aviation Maintenance B.S. and 2 A.S. I was out of the industry within 2 years of graduating. A lot depends on the airline economy at the time you graduate and your network and their connection into the industry. If you have all of your ratings and your degree and graduate in an airline recession, that lull will follow you for your career.
    If you want to spend less money go to any college and get any Bachelor's degree. Find a Part 141 flight school and complete your ratings with them. A Part 141 school is organized. Yes, instead of making cookies on production line, they make pilots. They have figured out the process. Nobody in the airlines cares where you went to school, what your degree is in, or who taught you to fly, if you fly well. Make sure you are a good Instrument pilot. That is how you will be measured by people that don't know you yet. Get your degree as fast as possible, as cheap as possible, and same with your ratings. If you want to hone your skills when you have your ratings spend some of the money you saved and ask around for the Old Man in the area people are afraid of and fly with him until he is happy with your performance.
    near Riddle and probably most flying universities there are Part 141 schools that teach aviation to the non-moneyed masses. Lost of their instructors are graduates of the flying university. For example, across the campus from Embry-Riddle (Daytona) is Phoenix East Aviation. They train tons of pilots. When I started Embry Riddle the school was full for flight students.Many of us enrolled in non-flight programs, flew off-campus, and graduated with ERAU degrees.

  • @carsonknott9884
    @carsonknott9884 2 года назад +4

    Since you already had your PPL going into college what did your first year of college look like? Did you still have to take PPL classes your freshman year or did you substitute classes for them?

  • @sahwa4203
    @sahwa4203 2 года назад +1

    Wooooooh!!!This is a new information for me .....Thank you so much Swayne ❤️ love it.......(you're making me go crazy for this career .....i can't wait .....WHEN WILL THAT HAPPEN??)

  • @sachinkambadur6940
    @sachinkambadur6940 2 года назад

    Awesome video, personally I am looking to join flight training in the USA , by the time i come i will have a university degree

  • @mtk52983
    @mtk52983 2 года назад

    From Mokulele to the 777, congrats on the latest career move Swayne.

  • @jamtrack7867
    @jamtrack7867 2 года назад +3

    Enjoy flying the 777 Swayne, it’s one of my favorite aircraft

    • @budaroski
      @budaroski 2 года назад

      How do you know he’s flying the 777 next

    • @velvetcorridor
      @velvetcorridor 2 года назад

      @@budaroski he works for United flying the 777 now

    • @jamtrack7867
      @jamtrack7867 2 года назад

      @@budaroski yeah he posted it on his Instagram

    • @armoredgaming2352
      @armoredgaming2352 2 года назад +1

      Damn my boi went from $50/hr to $140/hr

  • @chasen7447
    @chasen7447 2 года назад

    Awesome video. I have a question, where you able to pick which type of aircraft you fly when being hired at American Airlines? If so, what where your options?

  • @pieterbrits6521
    @pieterbrits6521 2 года назад

    Hi Swayne. Awesome video. I have a question, I'm all the way from South Africa, and I was wondering if I already did my PPL in my country, how will it work to get into the University of North Dakota in the States, to do my Commercial pilot license there for even more experience. Thank you! Keep up the great work! 😁

  • @trevorrrViews
    @trevorrrViews Год назад +2

    Starting my pilot journey in three weeks at UND.

  • @survivealiveofficial4056
    @survivealiveofficial4056 Год назад

    Currently doing Ozarka College’s ATP program it’s only 2 years, and absolutely free for me thanks to the GI Bill

  • @ajcorreia5921
    @ajcorreia5921 2 года назад +6

    I’m a high school freshman and I want to take this exact path to the right seat at an airline

    • @planecentric5426
      @planecentric5426 2 года назад +1

      All the best

    • @SwayneMartinPilot
      @SwayneMartinPilot  2 года назад +2

      Hope to fly with you one day!

    • @Me37368
      @Me37368 Год назад

      Be aware of colleges where do you have to wait a year or two before you start flight training. I know for sure UND has a 1-2 year wait right now

  • @connermarsc_2708
    @connermarsc_2708 2 года назад

    You should do other college visits....BGSU next?

  • @stantaylor3350
    @stantaylor3350 2 года назад +1

    I think the majority of young pilots will find out after 4 yrs that they just spent a lot of money, to just be a week end private pilot that if you don't keep spending money you will lose your license. 5 touch and goes once a yr to keep certified. Sorry I'm negative on this subject BUT spent 4 yrs on my son's training in the 1990's about 15 K private with VFR and IFR ratings. He got married and he and his wife would fly to her home for the Holidays because a 5 hr plane ride was better than a 10 hr car ride. Then he got the upgrade to a 185 archer which made the flight 3 & 1/2 hrs but in the end cost just became to much for a struggling family man. Before their first child came, he did do a week advanced course on a complex air craft at Mid Wisconsin airfield. Rg, turbo prop, variable pitch. I don't know if he got his certification for that though. He did his first solo at a week long flight encampment, with the CAP in Illinois in 1993 when he was 15. So now he doesn't even fly anymore.

  • @Noah-mm2ev
    @Noah-mm2ev 2 года назад +1

    Is there any possibility to get after the college and flying stuff directly a type rating from an airlines/maybe after your instructor licens?

  • @nitishabuch9368
    @nitishabuch9368 Год назад +2

    Hello captain Martin you are a true inspiration for the young amateur who aspire to become pilot well i want to know about one thing that if we persue the courier of being an aeronautical+aircraft maintenance engineering then also can we become pilot so what must be the procedure

  • @adriansalas1007
    @adriansalas1007 2 года назад

    Completely unrelated but you should do a ramp video again but 3rd shift at O’Hare when you’re back. Lol just a suggestion swayne 😁

  • @captain_daniel9y631
    @captain_daniel9y631 2 года назад

    Did you do a video on the specifics of leveraging a degree to be a pilot? What about if your degree is Aircraft Maintenance?

  • @StarBoySonii
    @StarBoySonii Год назад +1

    What would you recommend for someone who wants to become a commercial pilot but also wants to be a programmer, would you suggest getting a bachelors degree in Computer Science and start your career off as a pilot and then later on switch to programming or is it not possible to do that? If it isn't possible, what do you think I should choose?

  • @reyesben
    @reyesben 2 года назад

    The campus the program the airplanes all are beautiful and I’m happy for the students that get to go this route. However it seems equally smart these days to get the job start your seniority and then let tuition reimbursement as an employee cover the cost of education.

  • @ClashwithPotato
    @ClashwithPotato 7 месяцев назад

    Just got accepted to Embry riddle as an aeronautical science major!

  • @evanjones5133
    @evanjones5133 2 года назад +4

    I would really like a video about exact prices of different flight schools. From ATP flight school to embry riddle. And even include local “mom and pop” schools. And details about different loan options and ways to pay for it/scholarships. That would be a cool video.

  • @kingston5469
    @kingston5469 2 года назад

    My school offers all sorts of ratings. I do believe we are trying to get simulators built in on campus soon

  • @unlisted8042
    @unlisted8042 2 года назад +1

    Go to a community college and be a CFI In under 2 years then use the next 18 months getting paid to CFI while this kid was paying to go to school.

  • @paceman9691
    @paceman9691 2 года назад +1

    Can you go over ways to get aviation scholarships or good scholarships to apply for?

  • @mjaviation17
    @mjaviation17 2 года назад

    Bowling Green State University is amazing!

  • @zachrotert8280
    @zachrotert8280 2 года назад +1

    So, which program do airlines respect the most between fast tracks, associates, and bachelors?

  • @scpatl4now
    @scpatl4now 2 года назад +5

    I wanted to be an airline pilot so badly growing up. Then I found out I was colorblind when I was 12 and my pilot hopes went right down the drain. If you want to do this...take a colorblindness test. Most people don't know that they are colorblind.

    • @pilotguy8685
      @pilotguy8685 2 года назад

      Don't give up! You can take a test with an FAA ASI from GA ops (if you fail the in-office test with the AME) where they ask you to identify colors on a sectional chart, light gun signals, runway lights, suitable emergency landing spots, and colors on inflight displays. The passing rate of this test is near perfect. Go for it! Don't give up, if it is any consolation, I'll be doing the test in a few months and currently hold my private pilot license. I'm rooting for you! You got this!

    • @scpatl4now
      @scpatl4now 2 года назад

      @@pilotguy8685 I only score 33% on the Ishihara color vision test, plus that was a long time ago.

    • @pilotguy8685
      @pilotguy8685 2 года назад

      @@scpatl4now The test with an FAA ASI is far more realistic than those stupid Ishihara tests. Plus, did you know that those Ishihara tests are horribly inaccurate, and yet somehow they have become a gold standard for testing in the FAA...a worthless gold standard in my opinion! Also, after talking to my eye doctor I discovered that those Ishihara plates become too faded to be accurate after 6mo-1yr. And then through more research, I discovered that most AMEs don't replace them every year like they're supposed to, to save money. The computer color vision tests are also total garbage, just FYI.

    • @pilotguy8685
      @pilotguy8685 2 года назад

      Additionally, you can still be hired under part 91 with color vision issues. Go for it! Disabilities like color vision don't disable dreams!!!!

    • @scpatl4now
      @scpatl4now 2 года назад

      @@pilotguy8685 That's good to know, but my MOTHER is colorblind (which is extremely rare) so I was doomed...lol. Thanks for responding...where were you 20 years ago?

  • @ericboucher3608
    @ericboucher3608 Год назад

    Hello, I have a Canadian license with 2500 hours and I'm going to convert to a Faa license to be able to work in the USA. I follow your videos and it's inspiring. Do you have any advice for me or things not to do? Do you think that paying for the training in Dallas is a plus for me or is it useless?

  • @vacationcruiser1899
    @vacationcruiser1899 2 года назад +1

    I really want to go to UND but I’m not the worlds best student and my family is already in a lot of debt so I’m thinking about something like ATP and then doing an online degree program

  • @yousufs6684
    @yousufs6684 2 года назад +2

    Hello Swayne, nice video, I got a question , when should I take fight school, before college, in between college, or after, please reply

    • @SwayneMartinPilot
      @SwayneMartinPilot  2 года назад +3

      I've seen people do it multiple ways! If you have the time to get started now, there's nothing wrong with that. Just make sure you look into a structured Part 141 training program if you're headed doing a professional pilot track. Alternatively, you could wait until graduation and do a 12 month fast-track course!

    • @yousufs6684
      @yousufs6684 2 года назад +1

      Thanks, I may go to ATP in MN

  • @Xj6245
    @Xj6245 2 года назад +1

    Given the current shortage, do you think there’s a pilot with 8000 hours + atp who can’t land a major airline?

  • @traulee2123
    @traulee2123 Год назад

    Hii Martin just wanted to ask your about how much flight time you had by the time you got out of collage

  • @Swifty_not_the_singer
    @Swifty_not_the_singer 2 года назад +2

    How do fast-track programs like ADP compare to college programs like UND? Pros, cons, etc.? Do you get the same training sans degree? Is ADP a more cost effective option?

    • @will9093
      @will9093 2 года назад +3

      ATP is Part 61 so you have to fly the full 1500 hours to fly for a U.S. Carrier, UND/Riddle/Etc are Part 141 and if you get the degree you can go to the airlines at 1000 hours. There are also financing backdoors, you can bill flight training at a 141 school to FAFSA and get that interest rate as opposed to the bank loan or Fannie Mae for ATP. The cost is pretty similar for both, you're in the hole about $70k through Commercial Multi

  • @chasevandyk5082
    @chasevandyk5082 2 года назад

    I go to Central Washington University in Ellensburg, Washington. It's a pretty good school to go to.