Whiplash Finale (Caravan) (Part 2) | Whiplash (2014) | 1080p HD
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- Опубликовано: 18 дек 2016
- Neiman brands his name into the jazz drummers' hall of fame - and becomes the Charlie Parker that Fletcher always dreamed of creating.
Awarded for:
Best Supporting Actor, J.K. Simmons
Best Film Editing, Tom Cross
Best Sound Editing, Craig Mann, Ben Wilkins, and Thomas Curley
Nominated for:
Best Picture, Whiplash
Best Adapted Screenplay, Damien Chazelle
It's a pretty new movie so I couldn't find any theses on it. :(
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Director: Damien Chazelle
Actors:
Miles Teller as Andrew Neiman
J. K. Simmons as Terence Fletcher
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the drums smoked a cigarette after that
very underrated comment
I smoked a bag after this. Gave me fucking anxiety
Lmao
Definitely the best comment I've ever read I am so admirative
1900?
i paused the video to give him a break
😂😂😂😂
Underrated comment I swear.
King
😂😂😂....bruh 💀💀💀
LoL
Love the final cut of this scene. They don't show the audience, the applause, the curtains close. Because Andrew didn't care about what the audience thought or any of that. All he wanted was Fletcher's approval which he finally got when Fletcher smiled at him.
I see it as Neiman's defeat: not only did he come back to his old ways, but he also gave up his newfound leadership to Fletcher, allowing him to conduct and command him again.
So yes Neiman outdid Fletcher, but ultimately lost by participating in Fletcher's dirty game, and allowing him to conduct again - after beating Terrence, Andrew ultimately chose to lose.
No it’s liberty. Perfect synchronization between two pieces of the symphony. A balance of power so to speak. Andrew took back his power with the initial unexpected solo, only to give it back during the transition. Without one another and the other pieces of orchestra, they wouldn’t have created the pure beauty of the song or scene in its entirety. Relinquishing the power dynamic back to him doesn’t mean Andrew was defeated, it meant he finally knew how to abide by Fletcher’s tactics while implementing his own into them simultaneously to create pure art. That’s unison in music and in the madness to reach the ultimate goal which was near perfection. For both of them.
@@wserthmar8908 No, Andrew won. All he wanted is Fletcher's approval and in the end he got it. Fletcher here represents the harshest critic any professional can get, the man who never says "Good Job" and in that last smile he got that "Good Job" from him, so he achieved the perfection, that very high level in this craft that will guarantee bright future for him. Fletcher won't be able to take it back, change it, belittle him ever again, he was in awe from Andrew's performance and that was obvious to anyone. Fletcher as a video game boss is defeated, next level - Greatness.
@@georgefromjungle5211 , Andrew either should’ve not come back at all, or should’ve stopped when he did that awesome super-fast performance, in order to finish on his terms. But he both played the dirty game Fletcher offered, and when he did outplay him, gave up.
Andrew's obsession with music is highlighted by him wearing dark and black clothes, and him wearing bright, white T-shirts was while he was being fine in the beginning of the film, and after his fall out with Fletcher.
@@wserthmar8908you missed the part where Andrew told Fletcher that HE will queue him he didn't lose Fletcher was no longer in control and he still got his approval for it
"Neiman's dad is in awe!"
*"Jim watches Andrew -- crazed, exhausted, looks like he’s pushing himself past what is safe -- and knows there is no longer anything he can do about it. He has lost."*
-The official Whiplash movie script
Based🔥
Here!
Yeah when I first saw it and it cut to his dad, he didn’t look like he was “amazed” but more worried or cathartic
He's in awe like the old school, Biblical sense of the word
/ doesn't understand that some people want to push themselves to the limit of what is possible, and will always be mediocre.
The real art is clicking on part 2 at the right moment.
haha this is gold
I actually did it if that matters lmao
Yeah then getting a bloody audible free trial Micheal Jordan advert for the millionth time
I love Neuromancer
Every time I try, I get "Hey Rodgers, look! I'M YOU!"
A scene so intense, even the drumkit startet sweating....
hahaha - underrated comment 🤣
hahahahaha WTF
And bleeding
buhaha cinematography dude
Reminds me of the sweating meme of Peele😅
i really like the symbolism the director put in this ending. on one end, the father is witnessing his son being engulfed by madness, obsession, and insanity; the other, Fletcher seeing Neiman as if he is proud of created the monster he became, and Neiman forgetting every abusive thing Fletcher did, all in one smile. J.K. Simmons definitely deserved the award for his role.
Best comment
the son is engulfed by incredible music. It's not for everyone, and most people could never understand. What it means to give every part of your life to achieve one goal, it's beautiful.
@@iesakhanji1995 this is some cult bullshit.
How did he become a monster, he achieved his goal to become great at something that's every humans dream
@@dopeside2760 everything comes at a cost, the movie hints that andrew's ultimate end will not be happy
I love the shot at 4:06, Fletcher walks backwards into the shadows observing his sinister creation
wow that's a creepy shot indeed
I love the back and forth hand motion he makes to indicate Andrew to start smackin the cymbals xD
It's like Frankenstein's iconic "ITS ALIVE!" Moment
Perfectly mirroring when he enters from the shadows in the beginning of the movie
@@spongeyspikes09Reminded me of the same thing. Frankenstein proudly looking over the creature he has created.
imagine the end he said "not quite my tempo" and threw a chair at him for credits
"finally my fucking tempo!"
And then the scene cuts before the chair hits him
Neiman will throw his entire drumset at Fletcher. If that happens
would be the funniest ending to a movie ever
Neiman: not quite ur tempo eh?
Fletcher: I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE FUCKING TEMPO I WANT NUDES OF SPIDER-MAN
A movie in which the villain wins and hardly anyone notices that he does. Truly a masterpiece of film.
Well, the "villain" created greatness. Both achieved what they wanted. If you want greatness you gotta deal with A LOT of sh*t.
@@theodoredufourcq9840 you didn't get it
@@TERG89 I'm pretty sure its a troll, don't take him seriously. With a reply like that, that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard
It's not this simple and I don't see how you come to this conclusion after watching the movie.
This movie asks a question if the result of excellent can ever excuse the methods. Does the mental anguish of all of Fletcher's students excuse one student (who also has major issues due to Fletcher) reaching the pinnacle of success? Does absolute excellence for 0.1% justify methods which will negatively impact well-being of the 99.9%?
Fletcher finally finds his outstanding pupil and he likely sees this as a form of redemption of his methods. But he also faced massive personal consequences and he tried to destroy Andrew at the end before Andrew turned things around.
There aren't easy answers to this but the film did an outstanding job of highlighting the dilemma. But Fletcher didn't "win".
Douglas Washburn is that directed towards me?
The final shot where Fletcher gestures toward Neiman is the moment when the student's dedication has finally been accepted by the teacher, ultimately proving Fletcher's point that there really was no mars bar down there.
He finally got Neiman to look up, look at Fletcher, and answer whether or not he was out of tune.
Bravo Vince
still... not quite my tempo
@@StxckyBxurritos lol
Or cosmopolitan and baked alaska 👁👄👁💅
Both Flecher and Andrew got exactly what they both wanted. One was determined to be remembered as one of the greatest drummers ever and the other was determined to find the next great player.
Flecher may be a monster in the abusive and manipulative ways he went about finding that player, but Andrew is just as big of a monster in the way he was willing to discard anyone he was close to without a second thought and how he was willing to torture himself to be the musician he felt he was destined to be.
As much as Flecher wanted to create a monster, Andrew was wanting to become one, and was completely fine with anything he had to do in order to make that happen.
@@ProducerO it looks like even the director doesn't know how to take this final. His only advise is that Andrew didn't have a happy end, but he already said he didn't want one. He want to become great, a legend, and that's a thing everyone should learn. That sometimes, some people is more focused in themselfs and their goals.
The best part is, you literally see how Andrew pretty much begins to act just as volatile and selfish as Fletcher. That side to him was literally always there. Fletcher just knew the right ways to dig it out.
Tragedy
This comment right here it's the answer for me. They're both monsters.
The movie is not only about music. Stockholm syndrome as well, or other stuff between government and people (why not) ....
Fletcher went from “I will gouge your fucking eyes out” to “Andrew, what are you doing man?” God I love this movie
Character development at it's finest
Not really character development, Fletcher didn't change. Andrew did
@@evangillespie7922 they both did
Bipolar at it’s finest.
The number of the beast
Rest of the band: "Weird flex but ok"
YES!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
are we blind? deploy the likes
If this isn’t the funniest fucking comment lmao
THIS KILLED ME!❗
The moment where he fixes the cymbal for Andrew shows he’s earned his respect. Beautiful.
For me it's the few moments he takes to just WATCH him right after that. Fletcher is hyped as fuck and credit to Simmons for the acting, especially that gesture where you cover your mouth and drop your hand off. Perfect. Not enough actors know how to act with every finger.
@@geordiejones5618 True, Simmons is such a great actor.
That moment when his father actually "sees" his son in his own element for the first time. He wasn't his son, he was a beast, a master of his craft, pure expression. INCREDIBLE MOVIE.
It's funny looking back at the movie from this moment. When Andrew turned his back on music and was more healthy and sane, he never looked so directionless and lost. When Andrew relapsed into music, beating away at the drums in sheer agony, he never looked so alive and invigorated.
And it all goes back to one line that Andrew himself said at the dinner table. One little line that everyone in his family shrugged off. "I'd rather die drunk, broke at 34 and have people talk about me than live to be rich and sober at 90 and nobody remember who I was." He wanted this. He wanted to suffer for his music than to suffer in mediocrity. He wanted to be one of the greats, but nobody believed that he can do it. Nobody but Fletcher.
In Jim's mind, Fletcher was the monster that was preying on his hapless son. But in that moment, he realized that the monster he was supposed to stop was Andrew all along. Fletcher simply lured that monster out of him.
@@wojak-sensei6424 VERY well said man, this movie is definitely one of my favorites and struck a chord with me as I was contemplating being a musician when I was younger. Great comment!
@@wojak-sensei6424u worded how I felt bout the movie perfectly
I love how you fucking summarize that sir make me want to punch the door so hard
no i think his dad was concerned that he is good and this is his life and its gonna be a sad lonely life. and the directed hinted that nemon ends up commiting suicide like the other student fletcher was mentoring
I remember watching this in the theater and there were only like 6 people in there, and I remember thinking to myself, "People do not know what they are missing."
c dubba u I guess not all people are into music. Let alone jazz.
c dubba u one of my favorite films
c dubba u I even consider this a master piece
godchota It is a masterpiece of a film, and JK Simmons really deserved his Oscar for his performance in this movie.
c dubba u, they were watching something marvel
The thing I really like about this scene is how the audience doesn’t need to be there at all. They are performing in front of an audience, but the only reactions we need to see are Andrews fathers and fletchers. The audience does not matter at all
silly goose It’s jazz. There is no audience.
Wow, great insight.
wannatradepants Shut the fuck up
@@TheRitva26 Bro, are you okay? You wanna talk about it?
Can u provide a link to the vid of the director saying that
I love how Andrew seems like he is in a flow trance after the sound goes quiet for a bit, and how Fletcher notices this too and realizes he needs to 'direct' Andrew a bit. Not because he didnt think Andrew couldnt perform adequately without direction, but because he was so in the flow and disassociated that he actually needed those few cues to remind him what he was doing.. his drumming demanded so much of his attention that he needed to be reminded of external reality again
A good point.
Great point!
Favourite part
For anyone that understands true creative flow- this comment is spot on 👌
One of the most profoundly tragic and yet simultaneously uplifting and beautiful endings ever written and put to film. What an incredible movie.
Its not tragic at all
@@aasdaa3736 it depends on how you perceive the ending
@@aasdaa3736it definitely is
@@aasdaa3736Fletcher by seeing the results will perpetuate the cycle of abuse and another soul will die young, worn out, but as an excelent musician
@@gabsnandes7818 nobody thinks that far dumbass
This final scene is the literal definition of “I’ve won, but at what cost?”
How I saw it is "Ive won, and it was all worth it"
@@elijiahayy2837 correct, and it's always worth it, no matter how little you've won
So long as whatever you've won, you've earned
In the artist world its all about archivement in the end cause the road is painfull asf ;)
@@elijiahayy2837 The director literally says he thinks Neiman is going to end up empty, broke, and dead from an OD, having learned absolutely nothing.
@@ambskater97 The dichotomy between Andrew's father and Fletcher symbolizes this. The father is loving and caring, and ultimately wants Andrew to have a good life. Fletcher, in contrast, wants artistic success whatever the personal cost for his musicians may be. He even drove one of his students to suicide.
Andrew going backstage to his dad is the inflection point and ultimate resolution of this conflict. Andrew backs away from his dad and ultimately resolves to choose Fletcher (i.e. artistic success) over his father (a good life).
He puts his blood, sweat and tears into this scene. Literally.
wassup
Not blood maybe
@@antarakmit4114 there are few cuts where the drum set is stained with blood.
@@muhammadazrafbinmohdakmam4772 the actor actually passed out several times while filming this scene
@@mustafa-cx2fg no
I don't know what you guys been watching, but this is a horror movie for me. I'm no musician, but the maniacal teacher and the fear he made the students feel - though not quite at the same scale - resonated deep in my psyche and brings back all the dark memories I have of school, college and university. That knot of a ball of fear - of not being prepared, of being peppered by the teacher, the fear of exams .. It evoked all that out of me and why this is one heck of a brilliant movie.
dont be chicken eat at KfC
"the fear he made the students feel " that is the reason I haven ot watched this movie again, even though I like the music, the actors and as a movie in general
That's why you'll always be mid
@@TheLakabanzaichrg only someone painfully mid inside would bother to write that. :)
@@willhicks6963 Like he guy trying to be cool by writting :)
Minute 2:20 he admits his defeat by not being able to break him, but also knows he obtained what he saw in him. He obtained what he always wanted from him, which was greatness.
He won hahaha he is amazing but broken in the end
That look in Fletchers eyes"Finally my tempo"
There it is. Up you go.
It also looks like he said good job, the most harmful words in English language, meaning that he found a new bird, his molded "Charlie Parker"
@@christiangutierrez4436 you read my mind
More like "Finally, my FUCKING tempo"
@@esentries
There you go
There you fucking go
1:24 When my parents leave the house
2:01 When my parents didn’t leave yet
too underrated comment
LOOOOL
@@diegoalejandrogranadosvill3075 yeah totaly hahaa😂😂
😂😂😂
Jajajajaja
The father losing his son interpretation is an interesting one but I had a different one. Throughout the movie, you see how Neiman’s family never truly understand his dedication to music, almost considering his profession as useless. And that specific cut says a lot, it shows how his father truly and finally witnesses the genius of his son.
Agreed, that's exactly my take on it. To me, his was a look of shock, awe, and pure astonishment at what his son was so madly passionate about. And he could finally witness that which his son found so beautiful, all in a dynamite spectacle of a stupendous drumming solo.
yeah i felt the same like everyone is saying he loses his son while i think he just met him
only losers who never have won at anything in their life might find it hard to comprehend
@@maillemilo7987thats because in the script the whole intention of the director is that "the father looks at his son like he lost it"
wtf u talking dislike
For me, the best shot in the entire scene is when, right before the very end, we see a single drop of blood dripping down the cymbal. It so clearly signifies that Neiman is going to pay for his success with his health, be it physical or mental. Even though a second later we see him smiling and finally achieving his lifelong dream, this single shot, only a split second long, completely devalues all for which he has worked so hard to gain! Truly brilliant!
Also echoes back to that night with all three drummers.
The writers admitted Neiman died at the age of 30 from Coccaine overdose, he became great but lived miserably
Fletcher at the end is like if he had get the best Spiderman pictures
Manacek Dragon HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA FUCK THIS COMMENT MAN
Wait, maybe he did. (That's jk if I remember correctly)
BRING ME SPIIIIDERMAAAAAN
He looked about as happy as he did when he exposed spidermans face in the last movie
@@brycemason1747 hahahahaaha
Andrew: *finishes playing*
Fletcher: not quite my tempo
On God
@WeirdComicStudio It kills him instantly, that's why the end cuts to black so quick.
Andrew: It's MY tempo.
that's unfunny and not original, like you
*throws podium*
2:00 man the look on his father's face gives me chills. I love this movie so much
It makes my heart ache, because i know how it feels to see my own son do such great and horrific things at the same time
I think his father finally realizes the extent of his son's talent and it's awe inspiring to him. He knew he was talented but this was, for the first time, on a completely different level.
I don't think his father thinks he “lost” his son. I think for once in his life, he's seeing his real son for the first time, and realizing just how talented and passionate he really was about drumming. He thought it was just a hobby. He thought it was just a phase. But that look on his face represents a disappointment in himself that he never believed his son could be “one of the greats”.
That is a really interesting take of this scene, still me personally I prefer the former one
The look on his face is his fathers realisation that his son is completely obsessed, mad almost. And he realises that in that moment when Andrew was mid solo, he lost his son.
That’s a wholesome take even though it wasn’t the intention.
@@EFCkingTom What does this even mean, the top comment also said this. So does Andrew not see his dad as his father anymore? Does he hate him now? Like what does this mean
@@SadBheeseChurger no. His father finally realises that Andrew is obsessed, he is now realising that his son is lost to the music and the need to be great. His father also realises that this will cost Andrew his life and all of his relationships within it, including the father-son relationship.
This ending is brilliant. You see the anger and stress melt away from Fletcher’s face as he sees Neiman as the star he was looking for. Not to mention when he says “Andrew what’re you doing man”. He says it with a different tone, as if they are equals and he’s just confused instead of Fletcher insulting him.
It’s also the first time he acknowledges Andrew as Andrew instead of his last name, Neiman.
He addresses him as Andrew when they coincide at the Jazz Club but that was either because he was not his student and not under his "control" (as a boss would call his employer by their last name) or to give him a false sense of security and lend him into a trap.
But this tame, due to context and tone of voice, it feels like he's referring to him as a colleague, an equal just like OP said.
Coby at the end, he wasn’t pushing his students hard enough to create a star he was looking for. Only when he was actually going to break Andrew, his talent showed up.
The last look that they each share explains the entire point and premise of the movie
@@theguy6044 which is?
That facial expression at the end where you can see that Neiman has FINALLY earned Fletcher's respect... simply golden.
But keep in mind that pushing yourself so hard just to earn the respect of a man who abused the shit out of you is a bad thing.
@@MrRufioooo Still Fletcher. Neiman is the victim of an abusive teacher-student relationship. The same thing happens a lot in places like Asia where there's a ton of pressure to be the best in school/exams, resulting in severe mental health issues and even suicide (as was even mentioned in the movie with Fletcher's previous student).
Either way it's still a bad thing.
@@HuntingtonsDisco It's bitter sweet.
Wis Dom ok mr high and mighty
Wis Dom sure thing, anytime
I think the scene with the father is under-rated.
This entire time, Andrew had been abused by Fletcher but neglected by his father. One never truly cared about his artistic pursuits and saw it as “just a phase”, when the other pushed Andrew to greatness but ultimately cost his own soul.
That’s why the part where Andrew goes back on stage and fully gives in to madness is so powerful when the father is kept in mind. He only realizes now how little he truly cared for his son, and has now lost him to the madness that is the elite music world.
If he had loved his son more, and took him seriously, perhaps Andrew would have taken his words more seriously and would not have lost them to Fletcher.
But now, his son is one of the greats, but just as their dinner table discussions revealed, the path to greatness is also one that more often than not leads to great sorrow and an unhappy ending.
This is now the fate of his son, and it is too late for the father to make things right.
Which is okay. This is ultimately Neiman’s destiny. The father has to take a backseat when his son is shown to be a prodigy. Andrew was shown throughout the film to not be capable of a normal, boring life. He was meant for much more than that. Someone has to fill those shoes, and although it comes with insanity, it’s a role that has to be filled by someone nonetheless.
Perfect ending, it really left us as viewers wanting more when the film ended
I definitely wanted more. They made neiman look like a loser the whole film and when he finally proves himself it just ends 😒
@@mr.dankestdank7372 We don't need to see beyond this because we already basically know what will happen. Neiman practically became a monster, obsessed with drumming all to impress Fletcher, not for himself. For what we can see he'll probably die early and alone at 34, almost as he said he'd rather be. He's lost his father, his girlfriend and his family and has become devoted for Fletcher
So many things happen with such little said
A musician sells his soul
A father loses his son
A Villian finally wins
All in such a glorious drum solo
underrated comment
The father didn't lose his son
Wolfie Woo In the script during that part, it says the father feels like he lost his son.
@@HugoSoup57 Oh sorry my bad but on the other hand, are you familiar with the concept of 'death of the author'?
I won, but at what cost?
Truly one of the masterpieces of the modern era. The Protagonist and Antagonist both achieve their ultimate goal in the exact same scene, at exactly the same time. The look they share at the end and silence in that moment is so impactful, it's the culmination of both of their lives and everything good or bad that has led them to that exact moment together, a moment suspended in time.
Please tell what did the antagonist achieve?
@@cj131 The whole thing the antagonist was trying to do, throughout the whole film, was to make Neuman hate him basically, as a means to make him better as a drummer. He saw the hate towards him as a means to an end, a trial by fire sort of deal. The final scene of the movie starts with Fletcher trying to get revenge, but it quickly turns into Neuman showing off his skills, purely out of spite. In the final moment, the two, who had been hateful towards each other the entire time, look at each other, and in this moment Neuman realizes that Fletcher’s plan worked flawlessly. Even though what he did was evil in many ways, Neuman came out of it a godlike drummer. Neuman won by spiting Fletcher and proving himself to him, and Fletcher won by seeing the whole mess he started come to fruition. The look they give each other says it all; they still hate each other with a passion, but even so they have a newfound respect for each other.
Sorry if this was too rambly; I just absolutely adore the final moment of this film in terms of “show don’t tell”.
@@cj131 watch the bar scene, fletcher admits he knows he’s ruthless on all his students because he wants to make the next jazz great and he thinks that only a great would put up with his bullying without quitting. This scene is Andrew showing that after all that extra training he had to put in because fletcher kept pushing him down despite being extremely talented (he admits in that scene he literally replaced Andrew with a worse drummer to make him work harder to get position back, which I believe is true but you could argue he’s lying in that scene to get him on stage for this) has made Andrew into a drummer on the path to being one of the greats which is also Andrews goal throughout the movie. So they both get what they want
@@cj131 Neiman got what he needed, validation from his mentor of being a drummer by playing a memorable solo and Fletcher got what he needed, crafting his Charlie Parker moment by validating everyone he ever pushed and hurt, was worth it for this singular moment. You're right, this is truly one of a kind in that you have two opposites reach the same climax and end point.
might be the only movie where both the protagonist and antagonist both get exactly what they want in the end.
I don’t care what anyone says, musicians, movie buffs anyone. This scene is transcendent and I love it. So many good moments here even if it’s not real.
Fr
For Fletcher, this is his life's work. For Andrew, this is his life's work. To create greatness and to achieve greatness are not outside the same box.
4:12 The Bassist in the background is just like "damn"
Damn
man said “everything I have ever achieved in life now amounts to nothing.”
Damn, blessed be
Us
dayum
Take notes Anakin, THIS is how you give into the dark side
How can you even compare the two, lmao
@@RubenMakaya It isn't a comparison its a joke lmao
@@garinfl306 Yes i was aware of that, lol
Funny thing is that in real life Miles Teller is considered VERY hard to work with and has a Fletcher-streak, himself.
@@RubenMakaya no you weren't
watched this movie a hundred times. still get chills every time.
best movie in the last 10 years. mother, joker and triangle of sadness are also there though!
I only just realized that Andrew has earned Fletcher's respect, even before the smile, the help, and the fixed cymbal. The entire movie, he only ever calls Andrew by his last name: Nieman. Nieman literally means "nobody". But after Caravan, when the lights dim and return, Fletcher walks up to the kit and calls him:
"Andrew"
to be fair, he calls him andrew when they first meet at the bar but i get what u mean
@@no-no7md oh wow I didn't even realize that, but that also serves as a clue to his ruse at the time.
The actor trained six months for 3 hours a day for this very scene. It took two days to shoot.
he didnt really play it tho, the soundtrack is played by a seperate band, he indeed trained for 6 months to make it look real
@@TinTin-qz2dx ur kinda saying the same thing he did and ur saying he's wrong ur the kind of people who make everyone say "who the fuck is this shitwipe"
IMDB says it was 4 hrs per day for 3 days per weeks bud
NawtNCosmic so behind the scenes, he basically became the best of the best anyway basically?
@@DustinSmith796 Clearly good, but not the best of the best. 3 hours a day is pretty standard for pro musicians/music majors.
One of the best endings I've seen in a film
Phillip Broughton Damien chazelle sure can end a movie lol and begin one too
Phillip Broughton Agreed.
yeah... very dark... Andrew's pre-funeral!
so true
Phillip Broughton i saw this vid where some guy made it really dark and now my preferance of the movie is changed its so sad.
the biggest "let him cook" in history.
4:38 Imagine holding on a single sincere smile during an entire film and this does happen at the last freaking scene of the movie. MASTERPIECE!
i love the part where Fletcher fixes Neiman's cymbal. Even through such an intense scene that is already telling its own story of the culmination of talent, the filmmakers manage to advance the relationship between these two some more.
el mismo platillo con el que golpeo su mejilla antes
It's also a great way to bring Fletcher into the shot without it taking away from Nieman's performance. What a great film.
They started out with the story of how the teacher threw a cymbal at charlie parker, Fletcher always wanted a charlie parker, and now, he is fixing neyman's cymbal. He has more than he could have dreamed of.
It truly is an amazing screenplay from start to end, isn't it?
The entire point of the scene is advancing the relationship between the two.
"And he's laughed off-stage. Cries himself to sleep that night, but the next morning, what does he do? He practices. And he practices and he practices with one goal in mind, never to be laughed at again. And a year later, he goes back to the Reno and he steps up on that stage, and plays the best motherfucking solo the world has ever heard."
Fletcher found his Charlie Parker.
huh. just realized that this is almost exactly what happened. fletcher queued a song andrew didn't know so he was shunned offstage, but after crying he got back up and played his best solo.
Fletcher found the right cymbals to throw at Nieman's head
So what he REALLY wanted from his creation...... was GRIT.
But at what cost
I thought everyone knew this lol apparently not as obvious as I thought
The father’s look gives me goosebumps everytime
The fact that there are so many different takes and perspectives on the meaning of this final scene and the movie as a whole just shows how much of a masterpiece this is
I’ve never gotten chills from someone taking off their jacket
You've clearly never met my uncle then...
Indians will attribute it to: "Ruk bc teri maa chodta hu abhi" 😂
I have. I get cold in the winter when I take my jacket off if I’m outside
I totally agree!
Fletcher backing away into the dark at 4:05 is haunting. Like the devil admiring his sinister creation.
Sinister?
This movies is basically a documentary. Go watch King Crimson lives, and those guys are noobies compared to some jazz musicians/bands.
That was a sick description.
That’s funny, I always thought he looked like doctor Frankenstein marveling at his monster. “It’s alive... it’s alive!!!”
HellRiser you will never reach my tempo!
elephantshelf stfu
To become greater than human you must no longer be human.
To transcend....and be one with "God"
This scene alone has inspired thousands (including myself) of filmmakers. My God this is top 5 best directed scenes this world has ever seen.
What would you say the other 4 are?
That drumset is still in thte hospital
I laughed so hard i peed a litle and im in the bank...
@@SuskenHizamura Did anyone notice?
@@bhanu51197 o yeah looked at me like i was a madman that made me laugh even more...
OMG JC A BOMB
Hahaha!!!
One of my favorite parts about this ending scene is how completely inconsequential the audience is to the whole performance. The only reaction we need to see from the perspective of any viewer is the father's, who is torn between not understanding his son's motivations in returning to the stage, and the awe of his son's talent manifested. Other than that, the last ~10 minutes of the movie features no interaction with the audience, no reaction shots, no applause. The director simply consolidates all of the audience's possible emotions onto the face of the father -- confusion, awe, possibly fear.
And also, I really like how the lighting is employed not only to blur what little screen time that the theater audience has, but also to give tremendous emphasis on the performance of the actors. The lighting is bright, but not warm the way a familiar sports bar is warm with its yellow overhead lights and a flickering neon sign buzzing like a fridge. It has a way of emphasizing that there are only two people of consequence here, and what's happening here is truly, truly tremendous, but not good.
Damien Chazelle is one young genius.
True, except I think his dad's face is actually HORROR of seeing his son consumed by his obsession
I don't know. It can be interpreted in many ways which is why the movie is so beautiful. You know, its like a Tarantino film, lots of different angles that you could take the story and his intentions with it. Personally I think that the Dad finally saw what was inside of Andrew's head, and was witnessing his full potential, and his greatness. I think the Dad served as like, the outside world finally understanding what Andrew wanted. But either way the acting by the Father is top notch and definitely evokes horror, so I see why many interpret it that way.
Adam Gagan I
The father showing up to the performance he was so against is a cliche.
But I liked what they did here
I have absolutely no interest in drumming whatsoever, even less interest in jazz music...yet this film had me glued to the screen for the entire time. The writers and director were all on top form with this film.
For me, the part where Fletcher started to control Neiman's tempo was like the moment when Palpatine finally turned Anakin into the dark side.
Where his dad looks on at 2.00 is one of the best shots in cinema. He looks shocked, scared even. No big cheesy grins. It's his realisation of what his son is/has become. Another level of expression that is beyond the attainment or understanding of most people
Agree with you! That facial expression is also found in the ending of
“Jawbone” movie when jimmy’s trainer actually realizes jimmy is going to knock the
Opponent out.
@@micklee5152 LOL
Reminds me of the final scene from Billy Elliot too. In fact I think the inspiration might be pretty direct.
And it's because he knows he's lost his son, and that he will die a young obsessive, like the great musicians he mentioned at their family dinner scene. He'd rather die young and be remembered, and his dad just wants him to live his life and be happy.
Agreed, this is my favourite shot in the film. Just the conveyance of emotion is incredible.
This is the first time Fletcher calls him Andrew instead of Neiman.
he calls him andrew in the bar scene a few times
derek: He was being a deceptive prick in the bar, though.
Get the fuck out seriously? Through the entire movie?
Nice pick up man
LOUDER
the birth of LEGEND. This scene brings tears to my eyes every time. Whiplash hits home for anyone that understands the drive to be great. This scene is pure electricity. Fucking incredible performances from everyone
Underrated comment
0:39 the look which fletcher gave to Andrew is because he knew at that moment Andrew had given into the art of drumming and is where fletcher initially wanted him to be
it all just comes together so beautifully at the end, whiplash is fkin awesome
I've been drumming for 13 years and every time I watch this scene I end up weeping. Most of the time drums are seen as a supportive instrument that drive the rhythm, but here you can see the beauty and primal, yet controlled energy of an incredible jazz performance. It's incredible to see something you are so passionate about articulated in a perfect moment of beauty. I fucking love this film.
I'm a little bit late. I used to have the same thought that the drum is just a supportive instrument nothing more nothing less. after that, I have been into Jazz and at that time I knew I was wrong, Drum is the backbone of Jazz
Drummer here too a had a little lump in my throat to be fair lol
@Bad Lieutenant gonna say something really controversial: im not a huge fan of Buddy Rich, could never get into him for some reason! Do you have any recommendations that might? I've always been more drawn to "band" drummers like Zach Hill, Danny Heifetz (Mr Bungle) and Yussuf Dayes
@@TheRealBibwitHarte Have you ever listened to Gogo Penguin?
While they have seperated with their OG drummer, anything with him in it is a classic to me
@@TheRealBibwitHarte Also, Antonio Sanchez (Look into the Birdman OST) is an incredible drummer, came across his stuff from songs from Birdman being suggested. That said, from what ive really enjoyed has been more solo drumming bits
I love how they didn’t completely show Fletcher smiling.
J.K. knocked this role out of the park.
edit: after reading the replies and rewatching the scene, I’m pretty firmly convinced that Fletcher isn’t smiling, rather he’s telling Neiman “good job”
Since this movie I can't look at J.K. without seeing Fletcher. I'm not a movie expert, but here I definitely understood what "acting" is.
if you look closely, and it might be just me, but it looks like he finally says 'good job'
@@Yell0wRocketMan thank you, the exact comment i was looking for. this should be pinned. i 100% have believed, since i first saw the money, that he MUST have said that to close the arc at the end. "The worst thing you can say to a man is 'Good Job'." -- Also, what does that say about how Fletcher views Neiman, even at the end? Bitter sweet I guess. Then again, it seems like Fletcher's percieved notion of Neiman's 'best' is still pretty fucking amazing. the idea of wasted potential and complacency is so prominent in this movie, and just like the real world, there is no clear answer -- just a game of trade offs between satisfaction & effort.
They showed his eyes which reveal if its a real smile or not and
@@giovanniconconi1228 Don't worry. Just stick on the sam rami trilogy and you can revert your brain back to the 'correct' image of JK
この映画ほんと好きだ。
映画館に見に行ってずっと手に汗握る音楽の映画なんて今後であえないだろう
04:13 I love how the bass guy is also looking at Andrew in pure amazement.
JK Simmons here, chasing parkers in every movie
Wtf, never thought of that! 😂😂
@Geralt of Trivia nice username, I lol'd
I don't get it
@@jhk0428 Charlie Parker and Peter Parker.
Why have I NEVER THOUGHT OF THIS
The dude in the back playing bass at 4:12 is just like
"WTF did I sign up for jesus christ"
Hahaha my thoughts exactly. "I should have just played the fuckin' triangle."
"Why are we still here? Just to suffer?"
@L F oh my god
@L F For fucking sassy God's pansy ass fruit fuck self, i forgot what I was going to comment
@L F dude chill the freak down.
This is the exact moment andrew became heisenberg
💀
Possibly the greatest ending of movie released in the modern era.
Best movie I've seen in the last 10 years
The look on his father's eyes, he knows he lost him. That's not his son anymore, that's a monster created by Fletcher. What a bittersweet ending. 👏
Not monster
*A beast
I always looked at it more in the sense that he finally acknowledges how talented his son is.
@@sachalarose9964 exactly and how blind he was until this moment
@@sachalarose9964 that look was fear. Not someone who was impressed. Someone who was afraid and worried.
@@terrybatman he realized that he has lost his son, andrew is now a machine made and formed by fletcher. no longer his son, no longer a human.
Fletcher adjusts the very cymbal that Andrew hit his chin with.
@Лоло Козлов bruh hahahahahaha
@@groverkiinmuppetborn714
The fuck
I don't get it
I love the look he gives him at the very end. Its like a mad man witnessing his creation finally take its first breath. It seems unhealthy and sick but that kind of passion or dedication or something is what it means to truly be the best that you can be, purely, with no inhibitions.
@@norpriest521 Istanbul the manufacturer of cymbals
Лоло Козлов Partly yes, but they also needed something to cause Fletcher to come closer to Andrew for their interaction in the ending.
Just saw this movie for the first time Friday night, now i can't stop listening to Caravan.
何度も何度も観たくなるラストシーン
A bad director/producer would have added thundering applause from the audience, Fletcher and Neiman hugging laughing patting each other's back, Neiman's dad crying a river with pride and all kinds of usual Hollywood crap lol
I was hoping Neiman would huck a loogie in Fletcher's face at some point in the performance, and Fletcher would wipe it away with pride.
Actually it was sad ending
The croud cheering when the camera goes black wouldn't really be a bad idea. I think it would be satisfying a little. But i love the way it ended regardless. And also a bad director would fuck up a lot of shit in this movie, like how often the camera turns in this scene giving the viewer a literal "whiplash"
Stanny Mendonsa how so?
Dont forget the epic last words...
Possibly the greatest scene of all time from a movie about music..
U know amadeus exists, well after thinking about this for a while i honestly can't say that one is better than the other
Till I Collapse I still think the bedside dictation at the end of Amadeus is better but this is a close second
uumm, no..
Mikau 991 ha what do you mean by no?
Toss-up between this scene and Mozart changing Salieri's march at the piano in 𝘈𝘮𝘢𝘥𝘦𝘶𝘴.
can't get enough of this movie. already rewatched it for several times now, still gets me the chills bro
This movie is so great in so many ways. Even years later I come back to re-watch this scene……wow!
2:16 is my favorite part. When Fletcher realizes Neiman has reached savage level beast mode, proud is an understatement. He looks like Frankenstein bringing his monster to life lol.
Jaron Alexander SO ACCURATE
Frankenstein was the monster
@@ryanmac323 Victor Frankenstein was the scientist that create the monster or Frankenstein's monster, but many people call it "Frankenstein" maybe to be short. The original poster was totally accurate when he mentioned "He looks like Frankenstein bringing his monster to life"
@@vitzveer I think he was joking
Except Fletcher *isn't* proud of him. Fletcher proves himself incapable of caring about anything other than people regarding *him* as a genius. Neiman is little more than a creature that justifies his own ego and self-obsession. He *killed* the guy who came before Neiman by driving him to suicide. All Fletcher cares about is that his name will be mentioned as the "one who shaped and molded true musical genius." Neiman's ultimately letting himself be used because even though Fletcher is sadistic and unfeeling, he *understands* him, which is something his family clearly does not. They're both using each other.
You know there is a thing called cinema. THIS SCENE IS CINEMA.
definitely
and this decade wasnt so bad in making CINEMA after all!
10-Dredd
9-Pitch Black ( yeah these two as well )
8-Midsommar
7-Arrival
6-Black Swan
5-Birdman
4-Joker
3-Mother!
2-Play
1-Whiplash
man of fooking culture
Scorsese would aprove
Kino
@@ZsH85 new number 10 or even higher "Parasite"
2:14 I don't know why but I love that part when the crash stand tilts and fletcher comes in and fixes it
this gives me goosebumps, this is honestly my favourite part of the song, hell it's the best in the movie.
If there's one thing I can say that is 100% true for this film, it's that it knows how to convey stress and anxiety and tension FAR TOO PERFECTLY! (I finished this clip with my hands all clammy and filled with sweat)
RikuSenpai I got chills
You could almost say the writers and actors knew how to act human. Which strangely enough is hard to know these days
The entire film I felt like I was waiting in the hallway for an audition that was woefully unprepared for.
same I legit cried and I was waving my hands around the air like a maniac
I've seen this film a dozen of times and it is still almost unbearable to watch due to the stress and tension. Masterpiece.
i cant tell you how many times ive watched this scene. when i want to hear caravan this is the one i watch. the acting in this scene alone makes the whole movie and it still gives me goosebumps on that last break.
What acting?
Lawina what acting? Most probably the legendary scene people talk about, the moment Terence Fletcher 4:39 affirmative nods his head that he did well, that moment tells alot if u watched the whole movie.
TOK zz
Lawina the entire scene was acting you fucking clod
+Actiomedey Very mature... If you look closely, you'll notice that all the kid does is pretend to play the instrument, and the bald guy just shakes around. WHAT EPIC ACTING PEOPLE! BEST ACTING IN THE WORLD! The only two people that should get credit for this scene is the cameraman and the director (and maybe whoever really plays the drums, when the cameraman changes its angle).
Im a musician. I have seen this ending for the second time, and the reactiom was the same as the first time I saw the movie: it makes me cry and laugh of joy at the same time. Its difficult to explain, but I love it
No idea if Im alone, but Im crying everytime i rewatch this scene. These emotions, this pure euphory, to finaly get appreciation from someone you truly considered master, to be conidered good and even on the same level in proffesion, man, these are true emotions, true feelings, I dont know how to describe it. Beatiful movie, great actors, everything deserves 10/10.
ma nigga beat the drums so hard the cymbal start sweatin! gawdam!
Trigga Finger rofl
olol
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL!
It even stared to bleed
Beat those drums harder that chris brown beat rihanna
2:01 is probably my favorite shot of the whole movie.
His father no longer recognizes his son. He is something different now.
tetrahedron in space first watch through I thought it was a look of amazement at his sons skill. The second time I realized it’s a look of horror.
He has lost his son to Fletcher.
He realized his son was far more than which he believed him to be, thus failing to understand who he really was and is
imagine if you were in that concert and sees this enormous drum solo, i would be covered in chicken skin
@@seanoh4761 Tf does that even mean?
@@solitary2 I think it means like goose bumps
I love the scene where his father is absolutely blown away. Like looking at a monster.
When he started to slow down and speed back up really gave me some unwanted anxiety. this whole scene really go through many emotions and left me speechless. This was amazing.
3:28 is how i ask my boss for a raise :D
Salman Memehood 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂awesome
And his reaction: 2:27
KIEFISEUYFIUSDYFPIUYFGPWIRYGPIU
Fucking hilarious man!!! This is pure gold
Dude i never comment on videos and i just had to tell you that i laughed out loud at this. And im not one to laugh out loud when reading youtube comments. Honestly laughed really hard
The emotion that megamind shows at the end is priceless
cybergus18 yes
Nice
Jajajajaja
Lol! 🤣
Will Ferrell isn't in this...
such an awsome movie, im not a jazz fan but as the drummer i am, i have to say the jazz drummers are something out of this world, they are truly amazing for sure
saw this on Netflix last night, I know NOTHING about making music or using a muscial instrument, but that last smile by Fletcher brought a tear to my eyes, the approval, the pride in his student Neiman, the climax of the song and credits rolling right after, not showing the audience for even a second during his solo, this movie was GREAT!
Neiman's father watches, isolated and far away. He realizes his son is legendary in a moment of watching him play, and also realizes he made the wrong bet.
I thought that to until I saw the script, it actually mentions that the father feels like he lost his son, the dad isn’t sad because betted against his son, he feels like is son is completely lost in his passion and that he will no longer be the son he knew and loved before, but one lost in his obsession to be legendary.
Every father's dream is that their kids will be safe, successful, and happy. Neinman's father watches knowing that his son will only wind up being one of those things. Because of his compulsion to be the best, he will never be safe from his demons, and he will never be truly happy. And that he will feel failure as a father because he wasn't able to rescue Nieman from his demons.
@@nickdfoxy completely disagree, trying to be safe and comftorable is very feminine. Neimans father probably isnt truly happy and realizes hes dead wrong at the end. Neiman just broke the cycle of soft pussified men in his family
@@lukedonovan9092 very female? Lol what
What I got from that is more like his dad realized, his son is completely lost to him. It's not pride on his face, or regret. It's almost a twisted fear.
1:17 when you finally find that one vid you've been looking for for 30 minutes
Sclunger 💀💀💀
Sclunger how to be a man of culture?
😭😭😭😭
LMAO
Fuck you for finding this
I still get goosebumps everytime I watch this scene
dedication in one glance is astonishing... one of the best movies I have ever seen.