same for me, been subbed to this channel for a couple of years, i rarely check videos here but this card and multiple other super rare interesting cards exist only on this channel from what i saw over the years. :)
That fan cools it exactly like how a server cools components. Server gpu’s usually have passive heat sinks relying on the multiple chassis fans to blow air on them instead
Need ear defenders to game on a 19" rack server. theres 16 fans in tandem 8x2 arranged across the slab. I have a DL360. theres PCIe x16 and PCIe x4 at the back, plus connectors for extra 75W power. if you can stand the noise or can put the slab in an enclosure / another room, they make decent gaming units. Up-gradable dual CPUs. monster amounts of RAM. $200 or thereabouts from Amazon and other places..
@@joefish6091 I threw my old compellent server in my garage for the noise. Used esxi, and FreeNAS with hardware pass through to stream my window 10 vm to my steamlink in my living room
This brings back memories. I used to have an old system featuring a Q9650, 8 GB of DDR2 @ 800HMz, a Gigabyte P35-DSR3 and a BFG 8800GT video card cooled by an aftermarket Arctic Cooler. That system was a beast back in the day. Now it's in the hands of a dear friend who didn't have a PC.
Nice to see it is still getting used & you helped someone out instead of just Trashing it, I still use a C2Q9650, GA-G33M-S2, 4GB DDR2-800, Gigabyte GTX260SOC, 240GB SSD (OS + Games) & 500GB 7200RPM HDD for my Retro Gaming with XP, but I mainly use it for converting Cassettes, Records, VHS, 35mm Film & Slides to Digital
Those are some sweet machines. They are pretty much capable for daily tasks and light gaming even today, if you oc a bit and givethem a newer graphics card. In fact, I'm writing this on a Xeon X5460 with 8 GB DDR2 and a GTX 660 Ti on a Gigabyte P35-DS3R myself. When I clock it up to 4.1 GHz it does run many games until around 2015-17 just fine. Skyrim? Flawless! Doom 2016? GPU limit.
@@HappyBeezerStudios That's a cool build too, I've thought about switching my 260SOC to a newer Gen GPU like my 750TiWFOC but although I added a SSD & 7200RPM SATA HDD I have decided to keep the main components Age Relative (2008) to each other
This GPU was not designed to be passive, it was designed to be in a server case, where the server fans would very effectively cool it. But to accommodate non-servers they added the rear fan, which cools in the same manner as a server would.
That shot of the seagull, gracefully observing the beauty of this GPU, was incredibly profound and deeply moving. 9/10 hardware review, 10/10 cinematography. :)
It probably because of old driver the last update of 9500gt drivers is in 2016 and i have one in my old pc because back then csgo run smooth with 800x600 resolution but now it struggle.
The mains capacitors are done on that card (botom pair, green electrolytic capas). Bulging of the vent on top of the capacitor is a big sign for failure. One of them already vented, you can see the crusty rust-like brown colour on top. I would suggest replacing the caps ASAP if you don't want that card to die.
@@harrydijkstra9936 I have recapped tons of stuff too and even a completely dead MX4000 gpu on which the all the aluminium had literally exploded but with some new caps it still lives on for years now in my old Pentium III. but I now even had to service my P1 and 486 rigs as well since the caps start to leak the nasty stuff from beneath instead, they don´t swell up as the caps from the plague era but they just deteriorate instead. Rubycon is the good stuff!
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 Medion used to make OEM computers for the British supermarket chain of ALDI. My dad had a desktop and I bought a laptop once from them
The two bigger green(ish) caps are already heavily bulging. They are about to die. I'd consider replacing them. If I remember correctly it's from a Medion MT7.
@@firstname3177 I'm talking about the green capacitors with the golden stripe in the bottom right corner. Many electronic products of the 90s and early 2000s used cheap capacitors with sub-par or even fake electrolyte. Those capacitors are all failing and/or leaking by now.
Medion is a German OEM. Back in 2008 when this card launched, they became sort of known through out the world by their collaboration with MSI on a netbook. Back then, the world thought netbooks will have a lasting impression on the world, and plenty of media outlets wrote about Medion Akoya Mini, essentially a MSI Wind U100 without a glossy lid. Probably this gpu was part of that collaboration.
Back then Medion opened their own showroom/store and I gave it a visit, and they assured me ALL of their laptops (they had like 6 models in different sizes plus different specs for each) were made on MSI platforms. They also had MSI parts in their PCs. They were actually distributors for MSI as well at the time. They used to have a legal dispute over the trademark Micro-Star but Medion used to make laptops on Uniwill platform and Uniwill imploded, which is a good thing that happened, because anything Uniwill ever made was complete garbage, and they used a random selection of Biostar and other garbage in their PCs, also not great suppliers at the time. So they buried the hatchet and partnered with MSI instead.
@@SianaGearz I had a bit different experience with msi laptops. I had netbooks, Wind U100 and U200. Those were pretty fine. Everyone else I know had msi laptop had issues, their hinges broke of on every single one.
@@youzernejm still better than Uniwill, who until their last day, used a coiled flatflex through the hinge to connect the LCD. Before hinges would break, which I mean there's a lot of laptops susceptible to that, you simply wouldn't have a working display any longer. They even did this shit in expensive laptops.
@@SianaGearz how did they coil the flex cable? And why? Anyhow, you lost that brand completely, if I understood correctly? Over here, we had so many msi laptops go bad (small unimportant markets get lower quality goods very often), guys who used to do pc repair back then cringe when you mention them msi. Although, to be fair, every cheaper Fujitsu Siemens died, usually the motherboard (more expensive series worked fine, cheaper series often died under warranty to start off the experience). Those two brands became a thing of legend over here. It sounds like Medion was trying to find a partner whose devices they'll have to fix and earn well from after sale support.
That fan configuration isn't just some random whacky thing someone came up with out of their butt. That is the typical configuration for a rack mounted card. A true enterprise grade expansion card will come with that style of heat sink with no fan, and the rack mounted chassis will have slots for standard size fans that point down the PCI-E slots. This is one of the most optimal fan configurations, you can get a lot done with very little. Modern consumer expansion cards have generally terrible configurations for aesthetic and planned obsolescence reasons.
I'd love to see a modern version of that design. It seems quite interesting and might be better than the usual configurations. It also potentially allows for bigger fans, which should be leagues ahead of the 1080 Ti FE cooler, that thing doesn't really cool the card ^^'
Modern cards consumes a lot of power and produces a lot of heat. The 9500gt doesn't need a power connector, just the PCI slot, a lot of cards of that era doesn't came with active cooler just heatsink and that's why this configuration is so effective, it's just like a blower fan but don't scream like one.
This fan configuration is actually better than the one used on most cards mainstream since it blows along the fins, then outside the case with little obstruction in between. In typical card fans blow directly at PCB/heatsink, then air "smashes" into heatsink and part of it goes outside, part stays in the case. Even part that goes outside does so less smoothly than in this configuration, since it just "smashed" into a heatsink.
This card is out of a Medion / Aldi PC. Bought a prebuilt Aldi PC with a Q6600 3GB DDR2 and a Geforce 8600 GT in ~2008 with my own money when I was 13. Used that CPU until 2017 lol. The 8600GT I upgraded to play Crysis, I believe.
@@theminec Yes, in Germany they still do and they often sell other things, like notebooks, smartphones, tablets, chargers, different kind of tools and so on. Bought a samsung smartphone for my mother there.
Today i bought a computer from a guy in my school class for 10 euros, i didnt know the specs, but it has an am3+ motherboard 2 slots of ddr3, a stick of 2 gb of ddr3, an athlon II x2 255, integrated graphics, and a sketchy pentium 4 power supply and no hard drive, for 10 euros, its very good, only the mobo its 30 euros :)
Those old Athlons are still good for home server usage. I have an X2 250 with 4gb of DDR3 1033mHz in my media server. Paired with a GT1030 and it does pretty alright. Considering taking the file services offline tonight to try hosting a minecraft server on it.
I have a 9500gt sitting on a shelf, very useful for testing motherboards, I have yet to find a PCIe equipped board it does not work in. The same can't be said for many GPUs today, some older boards simply won't POST with a newer GPU installed and some newer boards don't like older GPUs. This one hits the sweet spot with legacy support as well as newer standard support. Hold onto it for troubleshooting ;)
I'd say first gen DX 11 cards are also great for it like my old hd 5770, though i do have a 8500 gt,9800 gtx+, hd 4670 1 gb & a geforce 210 laying around as well loose in esd bags. As for agp cards i got a nvidia 4600 ti with no heatsink atm, passive ati radeon 9550, 9700 pro which unfortunately broke off a memory chip when it fell off my shelf & landed on the memory heatsink on the corner. PCI matrox mystique 4 mb & a diamond monster 3d voodoo 1 from a windows 98 machine that corrupted the drive due too instability with the matrox card, i lost mouse drivers & it keeps randomly freezing lol.
Changing out shit for "terrible" would both appease the RUclips overlords and maintain the original message. As long as you don't call it shit in the first 30 seconds or so you're good on minitization as well.
Rollercoaster tycoon 3 would be a cool bench mark for low end parts, it's quite old but from my experience on low end hardware can get intensive with lots of things going on
I mean I get that fan placement. It blows the air thru the card and all the passive fins it has so helps alot with the cooling. You could also just place the fan on the heatsink and it would do the same, but for say, smaller PC's that fan placement might do the trick otherwise undoable. Always nice to see these weird pc components that you somehow manage to find, keep em coming! And good luck with moving apartments :)
Fun fact! The Medion Radeon 9600 family of cards and Geforce 4 ti4200 are similar to this Geforce 9500 in the sense that they are customized for Medion MSI cards. There is even a Radeon 9600 XXL Medion card that is similar to a 9600 XT with slightly lower clocks and a rather "Unique" cooler design.
Although it was effective cooling this card, using this method with newer hardware would not prove to be that effective, for two reasons: this card was low power, so no much heat to blow away and newer hardware have many more components to cool as well, no to mention that the bigger heatsink, with many more fins and heat pipes, will be an obstacle itself. The design would need a casing around the card to better channel the air to the back of the PC case and the fan would have to revv up a lot more, making it substantially louder (also because of all the obstacles the air will encounter). Biggest drawback of all? Space needed to accommodate the card. The fan will eat up many slots above and below.
I think the reason GPU-Z sees the card as an MSI card and not Medion is because MSI was a parts supplier for Medion. I had several Medion PC's to tinker with the last couple of years and the motherboard has some signs of MSI brandings aswell.
2:24 Can you see the checkmark and N1996 behind it? That's always for me the first sign for an MSI product. The second is that the label says MS-V129 or something like that. MSi was pretty much the No. 1 hardware supplier for Medion desktops (besides Asrock and Foxconn) until Lenovo took control over Medion around ten years ago. Since then mostly Lenovo and only occasionally Pegatron and Foxconn at least for the desktops.
I'm wondering if this was meant for a workstation or server -- server cards often are meant to have air pushed over them by fans pulling air from the front to the back of the case. It looks like the capacitors on the motherboard side near the fan need replacement. Thankfully they're easy to swap!
I am still using a 2009 Macbook Pro 13'' with a 2.53Ghz Core2Duo, 8GB of DDR3-1333RAM and 9400M graphics. That 9400M is using 256MB of shared system RAM, clocks lower and has only half as many ROPs, TMUs and shaders compared to that 9500GT. However, it still suffices to accelerate a KDE or GNOME desktop environment, surfing the web and even playing OpenMW slightly above 30FPS. It's also fast enough for emulators up to N64 and PS1 (haven't tested Dreamcast) and older versions of Minecraft. I can even get an impressive ~6hrs of typing documents out of it while being connected to wifi. Behold the power of Linux!
Most retrogamers with 90's vintage cards are used to jerry-rigging up something similar... The 3dfx Voodoo3 for example, got super hot with only a simple heatsink... And so a fan held onto the corner holes with zipties is a fairly common sight.
It is honestly astounding that we can even get use out of the Tesla Era GeForce cards to this day, the predecessor to Fermi definitely is showing its age but it does welcome us to see that even something as low spec as a 9500 GT can still play titles in Mid~Generation VIII/Early Gen IX (albeit not ideally); I don't know how much the uplift of the 9800 GTX+ would deliver to many current titles when compared to the lower end of Tesla (many Benchmarking sites state that it is anything between Three and a Half to Four Times faster than the 9500 GT, though I don't know how much of that is Production and how much is Framerate Average and Consistency), but I expect that many DirectX 09 titles will probably be able to run as close to stable in Standard HD (0720p) as can be expected from a Fifteen Year old architecture, the 9000 Series was made with the Mid~PlayStation 02/Early PlayStation 03 Era in mind and the higher end of Tesla will probably show that truth in future tests.
When my broke self in middle school wanted a gpu I got a cheap gt520 with the huge passive cooler and stuck a case fan on it. Temps were so low I was able to get a 200mhz overclock from 800mhz which actually did help get quite a few frames from the games I was playing.
I haven't seen such brilliance of a cooling solution since 3Dlabs's Wildcat days. If i recall correctly, they used to mount 40mm server fans on some of their card models.
There is actually a component for this card missing. The connector on the top edge goes to a small board in the case rear, that had SCART, component vídeo and sound plugs. That made the Medion PCs able to connect to a standard TV, and many of the Medions actually came with a TV tuner card. Sound to that board was delivered from the motherboard via a separate cable.
This reminds me of back in the day trying to keep my old sli setup using 2 8800gt cards. Yup, it was certainly a benefit in the winter let me tell you!!! Great vid mate!!
Haha this is awesome. Putting HS and fans where they're not really supposed to go is always fun. This reminds me of a time someone sold me an old GeForce 4 MX 440 for $35. He said it works for a time, then stops. Turns out the fan was dead and the heatsink it rested on top of was super small. I pulled that off and slapped on a large passive heatsink. After that it never even got warm.
Lol the afterthought was "Oh damn this passively cooled card isn't good at being passively cooled" That fan worked way better then I thought it would too lol
Almost reminded me of a server video card the way the fan is placed. As it would take advantage of closely placed fans like intake fans just like a server would.
I had a Medion PC many many years ago, bought from Tesco of all places. Can bundled with a 15" LCD screen, amazing in its day. I wouldn't be in the least surprised if that card was designed in such a way to avoid fitting a front fan to the case.... One fan to rule them all.
I have been in raspberry pi push vs pull cooling. Most people cite the cpu cooling of x86 and don't think further from this. I found that it really depeneded on the fan and most raspberry pi cooling fans handled push better than pull because the power required for a pull configuration was greater than the pi was outputing for the pins the fans use. Many ignored me and thought I was a idiot claiming that the physics behind a pull configuration was automatically always better regaurdless of fan performance. Now if you hooked up something like a noctua fan I still found push worked better for the pi than pull. The problem with push vs pull is push also pushes dust at the cards, so dust builds up much faster and when dust builds up then it becomes a problem as you are not cooling the heatsink you are cooling the dust. I found that push has always given more performance reasons to push the air at the chip in a short term, but in a long term it prevents that nasty enemy from building up too quickly, at least in theory. I have had my raspberry pi 3 constantly running 24/7 for years now in a push configuration and had to clean it just as much as my passively cooled raspberry pi zero.
back when i used to mod hardware the first thing i would do is take the shroud off and mount fans like this. i could have told you right off the bat, thats a great spot for it
I'm betting those cards actually had a single slot blower cooler. I actually similarly modded a 9800gt with the same heat sink after the shroud broke, though I just zip tied mine in a downdraft config. The card had the same mounts on the tail though. Someone just mounted that fan to those existing shroud mounts. Pretty brilliant really.
you do get cards designed like this and it is for airflow reasons, there is normally a channel for the air to flow in, either a plastic shield that covers the card or the case layout has a channel designed in it.
There is not much to it regarding cooling such a heatsink. This fan is a little bit oversized, a small one would be enough. These 9500's were largely built into laptops using different core frequencies (depending on the cooling solution). My guess is that they bumped up a passive card and added the heatsink afterwards to bring the temps down.
For these smaller games, and non-game programs, these old gpus keep up very well. With the right browser plugin, they can still decode videos at decent performance. I had a GT210 as a display adapter when my VGA card died. I had the power to decode 1080p 60fps RUclips, or use its tiny amount of CUDA cores to do some desktop capturing. But yeah, I felt filthy while I had to use it anyways. :D
If it's a Medion it was probably installed in a specific case that allowed the fan to feed from outside or otherwise be installed in a space restricted area.
I admit I always tend to struggle between wasting a few money or stay clever on Ebay averytime I see a OEM/strange video card like this one. And I am pleased to see someone in the world is attracted aswell like me, Nice video man, and nice finding! BTW there were a video about "the lost crysis game" (or something) on your channel last week? I wanted to see it, but i can't find it anymore...
Pretty sure Medion had a deal with MSI to supply customised parts for their PCs they sold in supermarkets (such as Aldi). I had one which was pretty good for a shop-bought PC at least in terms of features, lived on at my Dads for more years after I had finished with it, and ultimately came back to me as a retro PC - but the case bezel broke after too many times trying to replace awkward parts. Still have the MSI 7091 v1.2 motherboard in another case - there's a couple of mystery connectors (I guess some are audio out to feed the TV outputs such as a SCART port) but it's otherwise a pretty standard Prescott Pentium 4 board. One annoyance with the original PC was that it was sold as "silent", but was anything but - the easiest way to make it run much quieter was to replace the hard drives (two extra-noisy 160GB drives to make up 320GB at a time when 320GB and up drives were easily available and getting quieter), the next easiest way was to replace the custom CPU cooler with a stock Intel one (which also keeps the CPU much cooler). So yes, good features for that time, but really really not meant to be upgraded - though the biggest we've-got-a-cost-cutting-deal downsides (noisy CPU cooler and hard drives) could have been fairly easily replaced on day 1. The ATI-based graphics card had some proprietary connectors relating to the case SCART and other TV outputs, but was very normal compared with yours.
Back in the Geforce 3000, 4000 and 5000 (and some 6000s) days, MSI's fan shrouds had some gorgeous artwork on them. Nowdays such is depreciated; I wish they'd go back to that kind of aesthetic.
Would'nt this cool better if the mounted the fan flat on the heatsink? The only benefit i can see of this is extra airflow for any cards in the next slot over, but you would only be able to fit cards shorter than it.
These weird graphics card videos are some of my favorites on the channel.
Thank you :)
yeah, I like seeing which of all the crazy Cooler designs that have been tried over the years are still surviving out in the wild too 😁
I feel the same
same for me, been subbed to this channel for a couple of years, i rarely check videos here but this card and multiple other super rare interesting cards exist only on this channel from what i saw over the years. :)
This is not weirdest but actually should be.i did this in my nvidia t400 card and never goes above 60 at ultra settings.
That fan cools it exactly like how a server cools components. Server gpu’s usually have passive heat sinks relying on the multiple chassis fans to blow air on them instead
I think same
Need ear defenders to game on a 19" rack server. theres 16 fans in tandem 8x2 arranged across the slab. I have a DL360. theres PCIe x16 and PCIe x4 at the back, plus connectors for extra 75W power. if you can stand the noise or can put the slab in an enclosure / another room, they make decent gaming units. Up-gradable dual CPUs. monster amounts of RAM.
$200 or thereabouts from Amazon and other places..
@@joefish6091 I threw my old compellent server in my garage for the noise. Used esxi, and FreeNAS with hardware pass through to stream my window 10 vm to my steamlink in my living room
No
You killed me with "i dont think the possibilities... really begin" lol
😁
Those green capacitors by the fan don't look so healthy.
Not so healthy is an understatement, they are gone :D
This brings back memories. I used to have an old system featuring a Q9650, 8 GB of DDR2 @ 800HMz, a Gigabyte P35-DSR3 and a BFG 8800GT video card cooled by an aftermarket Arctic Cooler. That system was a beast back in the day. Now it's in the hands of a dear friend who didn't have a PC.
Awesome, glad it’s gone to someone who needs it too
Nice to see it is still getting used & you helped someone out instead of just Trashing it,
I still use a C2Q9650, GA-G33M-S2, 4GB DDR2-800, Gigabyte GTX260SOC, 240GB SSD (OS + Games) & 500GB 7200RPM HDD for my Retro Gaming with XP,
but I mainly use it for converting Cassettes, Records, VHS, 35mm Film & Slides to Digital
Those are some sweet machines. They are pretty much capable for daily tasks and light gaming even today, if you oc a bit and givethem a newer graphics card.
In fact, I'm writing this on a Xeon X5460 with 8 GB DDR2 and a GTX 660 Ti on a Gigabyte P35-DS3R myself. When I clock it up to 4.1 GHz it does run many games until around 2015-17 just fine. Skyrim? Flawless! Doom 2016? GPU limit.
@@HappyBeezerStudios That's a cool build too, I've thought about switching my 260SOC to a newer Gen GPU like my 750TiWFOC but although I added a SSD & 7200RPM SATA HDD I have decided to keep the main components Age Relative (2008) to each other
This GPU was not designed to be passive, it was designed to be in a server case, where the server fans would very effectively cool it. But to accommodate non-servers they added the rear fan, which cools in the same manner as a server would.
Ah cool, thanks for the info
That shot of the seagull, gracefully observing the beauty of this GPU, was incredibly profound and deeply moving. 9/10 hardware review, 10/10 cinematography. :)
0:06 Harry looked interested too 🐶😁
Seagulls are always eyeing up chips.
@@willproctor7301 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's Dave the Seagull, kind of the channel's mascot 😅.
Sad to see CSGO to put this card so much to a test though.
I remember the initial release version running like butter on my 8600GT back in the day.
Same on my GTS 250, ran pretty well maxed out at some 40-60fps with a 3ghz Pentium D.
@@thegeforce6625 Better than the GTX260 I had as a replacement tho.
It had some weird bug that capped CSGO at 30fps
It probably because of old driver the last update of 9500gt drivers is in 2016 and i have one in my old pc because back then csgo run smooth with 800x600 resolution but now it struggle.
yep, csgo has become quite a resource hog. it used to run well on 256MB ATI cards like the 4350 or the even older DX9 X1000 series
The mains capacitors are done on that card (botom pair, green electrolytic capas). Bulging of the vent on top of the capacitor is a big sign for failure. One of them already vented, you can see the crusty rust-like brown colour on top.
I would suggest replacing the caps ASAP if you don't want that card to die.
oh god oh fuck, vented ( get out of my head )
@@cgistiffy3642 EMBRACE SUS
I have recapped 100's of motherboards and vga cards from that time era.
with Rubycon or panasonic low-esr caps.
@@harrydijkstra9936 I have recapped tons of stuff too and even a completely dead MX4000 gpu on which the all the aluminium had literally exploded but with some new caps it still lives on for years now in my old Pentium III. but I now even had to service my P1 and 486 rigs as well since the caps start to leak the nasty stuff from beneath instead, they don´t swell up as the caps from the plague era but they just deteriorate instead. Rubycon is the good stuff!
I have this card! Friend of mine gave me it in a old pc sitting for a long time good to see it running haha
Awesome, I hope you fire it up every so often!
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 I’m almost sure it was from a old company enterprise pc
@@zsq5061 they are made for exactly that!! I have a few cards that have the same set-up. Nothing new though.
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 Medion used to make OEM computers for the British supermarket chain of ALDI. My dad had a desktop and I bought a laptop once from them
@@quenguin2178 may I ask. How long ago did you buy a laptop from them?
The two bigger green(ish) caps are already heavily bulging. They are about to die. I'd consider replacing them. If I remember correctly it's from a Medion MT7.
I'm glad I'm not alone in noticing this
I’m interested! What green caps?
@@firstname3177 On the bottom right of the board, between the fan and the heatsink. Two massive leaky looking caps there, below a coil.
@@firstname3177 I'm talking about the green capacitors with the golden stripe in the bottom right corner.
Many electronic products of the 90s and early 2000s used cheap capacitors with sub-par or even fake electrolyte. Those capacitors are all failing and/or leaking by now.
Those caps are gone. If you see physical deformation, the caps are done.
didn't expect the fan to actually be that effective. great video as always
Thank you, me neither :)
I did
It is not very effective, a tiny fan on the heatsink itself would have kept it cooler. This is a 50w card.
@@monotoneone Still a surprise it works fairly fine.
Maybe it was a "take your kid to graphics card making factory" day. The speciality of the day was to let the kids make the cards.
Looks like it lol
AHH child labour day
@@Magusslettewestberg well, they didnt pay the kids. So technically it isnt child labor day
1:12 so glad to see that Dave is still doing fine in these difficult times!
Medion is a German OEM. Back in 2008 when this card launched, they became sort of known through out the world by their collaboration with MSI on a netbook. Back then, the world thought netbooks will have a lasting impression on the world, and plenty of media outlets wrote about Medion Akoya Mini, essentially a MSI Wind U100 without a glossy lid. Probably this gpu was part of that collaboration.
They are part of lenovo now, I think
Back then Medion opened their own showroom/store and I gave it a visit, and they assured me ALL of their laptops (they had like 6 models in different sizes plus different specs for each) were made on MSI platforms. They also had MSI parts in their PCs. They were actually distributors for MSI as well at the time.
They used to have a legal dispute over the trademark Micro-Star but Medion used to make laptops on Uniwill platform and Uniwill imploded, which is a good thing that happened, because anything Uniwill ever made was complete garbage, and they used a random selection of Biostar and other garbage in their PCs, also not great suppliers at the time. So they buried the hatchet and partnered with MSI instead.
@@SianaGearz I had a bit different experience with msi laptops. I had netbooks, Wind U100 and U200. Those were pretty fine. Everyone else I know had msi laptop had issues, their hinges broke of on every single one.
@@youzernejm still better than Uniwill, who until their last day, used a coiled flatflex through the hinge to connect the LCD. Before hinges would break, which I mean there's a lot of laptops susceptible to that, you simply wouldn't have a working display any longer. They even did this shit in expensive laptops.
@@SianaGearz how did they coil the flex cable? And why? Anyhow, you lost that brand completely, if I understood correctly? Over here, we had so many msi laptops go bad (small unimportant markets get lower quality goods very often), guys who used to do pc repair back then cringe when you mention them msi. Although, to be fair, every cheaper Fujitsu Siemens died, usually the motherboard (more expensive series worked fine, cheaper series often died under warranty to start off the experience). Those two brands became a thing of legend over here. It sounds like Medion was trying to find a partner whose devices they'll have to fix and earn well from after sale support.
That fan configuration isn't just some random whacky thing someone came up with out of their butt. That is the typical configuration for a rack mounted card. A true enterprise grade expansion card will come with that style of heat sink with no fan, and the rack mounted chassis will have slots for standard size fans that point down the PCI-E slots. This is one of the most optimal fan configurations, you can get a lot done with very little. Modern consumer expansion cards have generally terrible configurations for aesthetic and planned obsolescence reasons.
Closest would maybe be the gtx 680 gigabyte made with 5x small fans blowing towards the motherboard rather then towards the rear of the chassis.
but those are channeled, this is not, this is nothing but hilariously silly
And by standard size we mean T H I C C fans
Precisely my thought, thanks.
Overclock it and test again! See how hard you can push using this weird fan attachment!
With the 2 caps on the board already blown, probably not far
This is exactly the kind of card that a very creative viewer of Blue Peter might make.
Yeah haha
I'd love to see a modern version of that design. It seems quite interesting and might be better than the usual configurations. It also potentially allows for bigger fans, which should be leagues ahead of the 1080 Ti FE cooler, that thing doesn't really cool the card ^^'
Yeah modern cards with this design would be great
Just forget about plugging a second card or fitting it into an itx case, but I admit it would make for a pretty cool design
Modern cards consumes a lot of power and produces a lot of heat. The 9500gt doesn't need a power connector, just the PCI slot, a lot of cards of that era doesn't came with active cooler just heatsink and that's why this configuration is so effective, it's just like a blower fan but don't scream like one.
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There sort of are cards with this solution, in servers. They are severely space restrained, so a similar layout works best there.
This fan configuration is actually better than the one used on most cards mainstream since it blows along the fins, then outside the case with little obstruction in between. In typical card fans blow directly at PCB/heatsink, then air "smashes" into heatsink and part of it goes outside, part stays in the case. Even part that goes outside does so less smoothly than in this configuration, since it just "smashed" into a heatsink.
This card is out of a Medion / Aldi PC. Bought a prebuilt Aldi PC with a Q6600 3GB DDR2 and a Geforce 8600 GT in ~2008 with my own money when I was 13. Used that CPU until 2017 lol. The 8600GT I upgraded to play Crysis, I believe.
Aldi sold pcs?
@@theminec exactly what I was thinking.
In Germany they did and still do :D
The Q6600 has held up very well. I have another Dell Optiplex 760 with a Q6600 upgrade. Did the tape mod and now runs at 3GHz.
@@theminec Yes, in Germany they still do and they often sell other things, like notebooks, smartphones, tablets, chargers, different kind of tools and so on. Bought a samsung smartphone for my mother there.
Today i bought a computer from a guy in my school class for 10 euros, i didnt know the specs, but it has an am3+ motherboard 2 slots of ddr3, a stick of 2 gb of ddr3, an athlon II x2 255, integrated graphics, and a sketchy pentium 4 power supply and no hard drive, for 10 euros, its very good, only the mobo its 30 euros :)
Awesome find :)
Those old Athlons are still good for home server usage. I have an X2 250 with 4gb of DDR3 1033mHz in my media server. Paired with a GT1030 and it does pretty alright. Considering taking the file services offline tonight to try hosting a minecraft server on it.
@@RandomGaminginHD Yea :D
@@DigitalJedi I have a good pc that i do my gaming servar things, but that is just for fun.
@@DigitalJedi And i puted 4 gb ddr3 dual channel 1333 mhz, i haved it laying around :D
0:05 is that a treat, is that a treat?! Oh another gpu, nevermind...
I have a 9500gt sitting on a shelf, very useful for testing motherboards, I have yet to find a PCIe equipped board it does not work in. The same can't be said for many GPUs today, some older boards
simply won't POST with a newer GPU installed and some newer boards don't like older GPUs. This one hits the sweet spot with legacy support as well as newer standard support. Hold onto it for troubleshooting ;)
Yeah definitely, I’ve got a few cards that refuse to work with my new boards. So frustrating
I'd say first gen DX 11 cards are also great for it like my old hd 5770, though i do have a 8500 gt,9800 gtx+, hd 4670 1 gb & a geforce 210 laying around as well loose in esd bags.
As for agp cards i got a nvidia 4600 ti with no heatsink atm, passive ati radeon 9550, 9700 pro which unfortunately broke off a memory chip when it fell off my shelf & landed on the memory heatsink on the corner.
PCI matrox mystique 4 mb & a diamond monster 3d voodoo 1 from a windows 98 machine that corrupted the drive due too instability with the matrox card, i lost mouse drivers & it keeps randomly freezing lol.
hope you hit 500k subs soon mate :) been watching you for ages. always interesting and different pc parts.
Thanks mate :)
If RUclips wasn't so family friendly, your series could be called "Buying shit GPUs, so you don't have to"
Awesome video.. Thanks
Haha I might be able to get away with that…
Changing out shit for "terrible" would both appease the RUclips overlords and maintain the original message. As long as you don't call it shit in the first 30 seconds or so you're good on minitization as well.
Rollercoaster tycoon 3 would be a cool bench mark for low end parts, it's quite old but from my experience on low end hardware can get intensive with lots of things going on
I mean I get that fan placement. It blows the air thru the card and all the passive fins it has so helps alot with the cooling. You could also just place the fan on the heatsink and it would do the same, but for say, smaller PC's that fan placement might do the trick otherwise undoable.
Always nice to see these weird pc components that you somehow manage to find, keep em coming! And good luck with moving apartments :)
I honestly love what your doing here in the channel showing that old GPU still have some life even if its for emulation
The "studio table" has seen some better days I see (reminds me of my own desk I have to admit, lol)
Time for an upgrade, it's too late for a coat of paint !
That green capacitor closest to the fan is bulging, I would replace it and retest maybe, might not matter, might make a difference.
Fun fact! The Medion Radeon 9600 family of cards and Geforce 4 ti4200 are similar to this Geforce 9500 in the sense that they are customized for Medion MSI cards. There is even a Radeon 9600 XXL Medion card that is similar to a 9600 XT with slightly lower clocks and a rather "Unique" cooler design.
0:01 Oh hello Henry.
the capacitors will do fireworks soon
Thumbnail: "[Who is] idea was this?"
Derp.
Although it was effective cooling this card, using this method with newer hardware would not prove to be that effective, for two reasons: this card was low power, so no much heat to blow away and newer hardware have many more components to cool as well, no to mention that the bigger heatsink, with many more fins and heat pipes, will be an obstacle itself.
The design would need a casing around the card to better channel the air to the back of the PC case and the fan would have to revv up a lot more, making it substantially louder (also because of all the obstacles the air will encounter).
Biggest drawback of all? Space needed to accommodate the card. The fan will eat up many slots above and below.
I think the reason GPU-Z sees the card as an MSI card and not Medion is because MSI was a parts supplier for Medion.
I had several Medion PC's to tinker with the last couple of years and the motherboard has some signs of MSI brandings aswell.
2:24 Can you see the checkmark and N1996 behind it? That's always for me the first sign for an MSI product. The second is that the label says MS-V129 or something like that.
MSi was pretty much the No. 1 hardware supplier for Medion desktops (besides Asrock and Foxconn) until Lenovo took control over Medion around ten years ago. Since then mostly Lenovo and only occasionally Pegatron and Foxconn at least for the desktops.
3:05 it appears you’re in need of an upgrade on your display stand 😉🤕
I'm wondering if this was meant for a workstation or server -- server cards often are meant to have air pushed over them by fans pulling air from the front to the back of the case.
It looks like the capacitors on the motherboard side near the fan need replacement. Thankfully they're easy to swap!
This would probably run the OG release of Skyrim fairly well.
I am still using a 2009 Macbook Pro 13'' with a 2.53Ghz Core2Duo, 8GB of DDR3-1333RAM and 9400M graphics. That 9400M is using 256MB of shared system RAM, clocks lower and has only half as many ROPs, TMUs and shaders compared to that 9500GT. However, it still suffices to accelerate a KDE or GNOME desktop environment, surfing the web and even playing OpenMW slightly above 30FPS. It's also fast enough for emulators up to N64 and PS1 (haven't tested Dreamcast) and older versions of Minecraft. I can even get an impressive ~6hrs of typing documents out of it while being connected to wifi. Behold the power of Linux!
Most retrogamers with 90's vintage cards are used to jerry-rigging up something similar... The 3dfx Voodoo3 for example, got super hot with only a simple heatsink... And so a fan held onto the corner holes with zipties is a fairly common sight.
It is honestly astounding that we can even get use out of the Tesla Era GeForce cards to this day, the predecessor to Fermi definitely is showing its age but it does welcome us to see that even something as low spec as a 9500 GT can still play titles in Mid~Generation VIII/Early Gen IX (albeit not ideally); I don't know how much the uplift of the 9800 GTX+ would deliver to many current titles when compared to the lower end of Tesla (many Benchmarking sites state that it is anything between Three and a Half to Four Times faster than the 9500 GT, though I don't know how much of that is Production and how much is Framerate Average and Consistency), but I expect that many DirectX 09 titles will probably be able to run as close to stable in Standard HD (0720p) as can be expected from a Fifteen Year old architecture, the 9000 Series was made with the Mid~PlayStation 02/Early PlayStation 03 Era in mind and the higher end of Tesla will probably show that truth in future tests.
When my broke self in middle school wanted a gpu I got a cheap gt520 with the huge passive cooler and stuck a case fan on it. Temps were so low I was able to get a 200mhz overclock from 800mhz which actually did help get quite a few frames from the games I was playing.
i think those electrolytic capacitors near the fan are about to explode if not already leaked liquids
Graphics card has two blown capacitors (the green ones are bulging )
There are two bulging capacitors on the card, just for your info.
I haven't seen such brilliance of a cooling solution since 3Dlabs's Wildcat days.
If i recall correctly, they used to mount 40mm server fans on some of their card models.
There is actually a component for this card missing. The connector on the top edge goes to a small board in the case rear, that had SCART, component vídeo and sound plugs. That made the Medion PCs able to connect to a standard TV, and many of the Medions actually came with a TV tuner card. Sound to that board was delivered from the motherboard via a separate cable.
This reminds me of back in the day trying to keep my old sli setup using 2 8800gt cards. Yup, it was certainly a benefit in the winter let me tell you!!! Great vid mate!!
Awesome that this quirky gpu fan actually does a good job cooling the card 😆
Haha this is awesome. Putting HS and fans where they're not really supposed to go is always fun. This reminds me of a time someone sold me an old GeForce 4 MX 440 for $35. He said it works for a time, then stops. Turns out the fan was dead and the heatsink it rested on top of was super small. I pulled that off and slapped on a large passive heatsink. After that it never even got warm.
Lol the afterthought was "Oh damn this passively cooled card isn't good at being passively cooled"
That fan worked way better then I thought it would too lol
For the computer this came in this config made a lot of sense as this fan was basically what was moving all the air around in the case.
Interesting find! Love it when you make these videos! Bring on the weirdness!
Thanks mate
Almost reminded me of a server video card the way the fan is placed. As it would take advantage of closely placed fans like intake fans just like a server would.
I had a Medion PC many many years ago, bought from Tesco of all places. Can bundled with a 15" LCD screen, amazing in its day. I wouldn't be in the least surprised if that card was designed in such a way to avoid fitting a front fan to the case.... One fan to rule them all.
Great video👍never seen such a design, i noticed the 2 green capacitors failing (bulging from the top) they might affect performance.
0:06 cute dog :3
The fact anything plays on this is incredible.
Love your content, my friend!
I have been in raspberry pi push vs pull cooling. Most people cite the cpu cooling of x86 and don't think further from this. I found that it really depeneded on the fan and most raspberry pi cooling fans handled push better than pull because the power required for a pull configuration was greater than the pi was outputing for the pins the fans use. Many ignored me and thought I was a idiot claiming that the physics behind a pull configuration was automatically always better regaurdless of fan performance. Now if you hooked up something like a noctua fan I still found push worked better for the pi than pull. The problem with push vs pull is push also pushes dust at the cards, so dust builds up much faster and when dust builds up then it becomes a problem as you are not cooling the heatsink you are cooling the dust. I found that push has always given more performance reasons to push the air at the chip in a short term, but in a long term it prevents that nasty enemy from building up too quickly, at least in theory. I have had my raspberry pi 3 constantly running 24/7 for years now in a push configuration and had to clean it just as much as my passively cooled raspberry pi zero.
"Dave" is back! 🥳🥳
back when i used to mod hardware the first thing i would do is take the shroud off and mount fans like this. i could have told you right off the bat, thats a great spot for it
I'm betting those cards actually had a single slot blower cooler. I actually similarly modded a 9800gt with the same heat sink after the shroud broke, though I just zip tied mine in a downdraft config. The card had the same mounts on the tail though. Someone just mounted that fan to those existing shroud mounts. Pretty brilliant really.
you do get cards designed like this and it is for airflow reasons, there is normally a channel for the air to flow in, either a plastic shield that covers the card or the case layout has a channel designed in it.
G'day Random, Harry & Dave,
Medion is the Brand of PreBuilts sold by Aldi here in Australia
This came form future lmaoo
We upgrading but backwards 😂😂
Looks to be out of an old arcade cabinet.
thats actually a great idea...the larger fan can rotate slower making less noise and the card is thin allowing to install pci cards next to it
1:13 i was waiting for that seagull
seems like the 2 bottom green caps should be replaced because of bulging
Ah yes… The legendary Motorboat card…
1:13 Oh no, the seagull followed him to his new home.
There is not much to it regarding cooling such a heatsink. This fan is a little bit oversized, a small one would be enough. These 9500's were largely built into laptops using different core frequencies (depending on the cooling solution). My guess is that they bumped up a passive card and added the heatsink afterwards to bring the temps down.
For these smaller games, and non-game programs, these old gpus keep up very well. With the right browser plugin, they can still decode videos at decent performance. I had a GT210 as a display adapter when my VGA card died. I had the power to decode 1080p 60fps RUclips, or use its tiny amount of CUDA cores to do some desktop capturing. But yeah, I felt filthy while I had to use it anyways. :D
Did you get a new mic? The audio is so clean and crispy *lipbite*
If it's a Medion it was probably installed in a specific case that allowed the fan to feed from outside or otherwise be installed in a space restricted area.
Unnecessary mod would be replacing the fan with noctua
Nah... replace it with one of those 30,000 RPM Delta server fans!
3:09 The fact that GTA V runs on 720p 30FPS on such an ancient GPU makes it clear that this is equivalent of a PS3.
I admit I always tend to struggle between wasting a few money or stay clever on Ebay averytime I see a OEM/strange video card like this one. And I am pleased to see someone in the world is attracted aswell like me, Nice video man, and nice finding!
BTW there were a video about "the lost crysis game" (or something) on your channel last week? I wanted to see it, but i can't find it anymore...
Pretty sure Medion had a deal with MSI to supply customised parts for their PCs they sold in supermarkets (such as Aldi). I had one which was pretty good for a shop-bought PC at least in terms of features, lived on at my Dads for more years after I had finished with it, and ultimately came back to me as a retro PC - but the case bezel broke after too many times trying to replace awkward parts. Still have the MSI 7091 v1.2 motherboard in another case - there's a couple of mystery connectors (I guess some are audio out to feed the TV outputs such as a SCART port) but it's otherwise a pretty standard Prescott Pentium 4 board. One annoyance with the original PC was that it was sold as "silent", but was anything but - the easiest way to make it run much quieter was to replace the hard drives (two extra-noisy 160GB drives to make up 320GB at a time when 320GB and up drives were easily available and getting quieter), the next easiest way was to replace the custom CPU cooler with a stock Intel one (which also keeps the CPU much cooler). So yes, good features for that time, but really really not meant to be upgraded - though the biggest we've-got-a-cost-cutting-deal downsides (noisy CPU cooler and hard drives) could have been fairly easily replaced on day 1. The ATI-based graphics card had some proprietary connectors relating to the case SCART and other TV outputs, but was very normal compared with yours.
Love that design. Also, nice description, lol.
Not really sure but I get the distinct inkling that even the little doggie and the seagull aren't quite fond of this GPU.
Back in the Geforce 3000, 4000 and 5000 (and some 6000s) days, MSI's fan shrouds had some gorgeous artwork on them. Nowdays such is depreciated; I wish they'd go back to that kind of aesthetic.
Find a 6cm fan and stick to the heatsink with double tape or cable ties, it should work perfectly to cooling down some heat
i love this channel but i cant help feeling sorry for your garden table. Sand it and repaint please hahahah
I love how you can find the most odd and obscure cards lol. Great video!
Government drones always spy on you XD
I like looking at these weird cards a lot more than looking at fancy modern ones
I've got the exact same card collecting dust in one of my drawers😂
plot twist : this is actually the better way to cool a graphics card
Harry the Dog!
Steven Seagull!
And odd GPU!
This video has it all.
i laughed way too hard when you said it cost you 35 pounds
... That GPU is literally a corpse that Nvidia just booted out its door.
Wonder if a Noctua Fan will do a even better job Cooling the card 🤔
I wondered about fanning a passively cooled card with a beefier cooler.
0:06 - DOGGO!
on era systems the fan may have also helped with heat from northbridge collecting behind the card or blowing on it
Would'nt this cool better if the mounted the fan flat on the heatsink? The only benefit i can see of this is extra airflow for any cards in the next slot over, but you would only be able to fit cards shorter than it.
I see Dave is always around for those out of the world Graphics Card 🤣.