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I hear that if you place an EVGA sticker over the MSI branding it usually fixes these issues, straightens out your pcb, helps keep the solder together and such.
😂😂
glad they didn't discontinue their sticker business
lol
But then EVGA doesnt honor your warranty and you have a broken card.
You left out the part where it cures cancer and invents an infinite energy supply.
the 1980's montage reballing music is great 100%
Synthwave. Listen to some Kavinsky if you enjoy this kind of music
Seriously! I wish i knew what song that was so i can blast it in my room as im playing. Good tempo and energy
@@theragnarok13 sounds like waveshaper
Your level of micro electronic surgery skill is undescribable. Awesome work.
Thanks. I try.
Mesnwhile i am defeated by a capacitor on a B550 board 🙌
We all are where we are. Just gotta keep improving from there :) @@Wahinies
@@northwestrepair You are like a superhero to me! At my age (53) and shaky I can't even solder correctly. Plus being in the army and heavy labor most of my life...I am not the most delicate person in the world anymore! (I can't even work on laptops without breaking tabs). Desktops only for me now!
@@shanemitchell477i am 19 and cant soder 😂 guess that will come eventually
I have no idea what you were doing, but it was somehow fascinating and I watched 'till the end. Congratulations on fixing an expensive card.
Same here, but fascinating to watch
I've watched a few of his videos and I tell myself that I know what he's doing, but the truth is I have no idea.
He was washing something with dawn dish soap over and over.
As the PCB warps, the connection between the GPU chip / memory chips and the PCB starts to come apart at an imperceptible level. That tiniest of separation causes issues in the flow of electricity and data through the board causing the GPU to not be detected and then have subsequent memory errors. By reballing the chips and then using the press to reseat the GPU chip into the board he basically reseated those chips on the PCB and re-created those connections taking into account the current flex in the PCB thus fixing the errors
Saved me the time to write the exact same post. Totally awesome to watch, but just a tad bit above my pay grade!! ;-P
"Reball the core!" he says. Turns out, he doesn't say it just because he likes doing it, but because he knows what he's doing.
A lot of times it's true.
"Please, sir, may I have a reball?"
-the core, probably
But he does like it :D ;)
i am baffled... how can those pads be missing? What caused them to be missing?
And why wasn't it covered under warranty?
@@northwestrepair
but isn't reball a temporary fix. like give or take 1 week okay and then the next week its no longer going to work???
That was very impressive and further than what 95% of other repair shops would have done probably.
Me: "Hey my microwave door isn't properly closing, could you check the hinges?"
Northwestrepair: "I reballed the core and fixed the hinges"
310 LIKES AND NO COMMANT??? LET ME FIX THAT
@@AndyIsHereBoi Make sure you reball the core while fixing that
What blew my mind was how a card invented in 2022 was sent back in time to 1985, got fixed expertly and sent back to the future. the 1900s people are wild!!
Thats crazy how many pads were damaged. Maybe GPU manufacturers should start socketing the main chip.
Or stop making cheap PCB's that bend, it loosens the components when the boards twist and said components/pathways start to fail.
I hate how much we have to pay for so little.
Why would you make a product last longer, if you can make it last shorter instead?
(Every electronics manufacturer out there, probably...)
@@Webfra14
Sad reality today, with many items. Build to consume, not to buy for longevity.
There is a reason people are no longer called customers, but consumers.
2 slot card make it straight?
The owner did not put support on the card making the card bent or possible the weight of the heatsink cause the pads to tear.
This man works so f in hard on these repairs and there is so much knowledge and skill involved it blows my mind every time.
Everything can be solved by reballing ... world hunger, war, shitty disney movies, noisy oscillators 😘
Lol love this comment 🤣
LMFAO @ "shitty disney movies"! Alas, if only THAT problem was as easy to solve as reballing a core
Reball Disney's executives' minds so they think straight lol. @@idontneedthis66
@@idontneedthis66 it could you'd have to reball the directors and scriptwriters ;)
@@idontneedthis66 Well, the balls of the core of disney seems to not only have gone bad, but are completely missing, so yeah, maybe reballing the core would actually work.
This repair job has exceeded everything I have watched so far in tech repair world so far. And I have watched a lot over the last many years.
Best words ever. Buy what you can afford.
I live by the rule “ only if I I can afford at least 5, I can buy (only) one” + “If I can spend 15+ years in school for learning a profession, I certainly can spend 5 (extra) years to learn to successfully invest”.
This is what I do
With IBM PC cost $6K, it is hard to complain about costs of anything today. . . 😮
i can afford these 500times with my bank acc, still i decided to buy a 6700xt
gaming is just my hobby, not my life
@@curie1420 Your literally a millionaire and wouldnt go all out and spend 4 or 5k on a beastly gaming rig?
I've repaired a lot of bga pads but that sheer amount of damaged pads under that single chip is crazy. Mad respect to your repair skills!!
Fun Fact: If you lift enough pads, you'll find a frog. Now you know why some graphics cards croaked.
😂👌
I heard no croaking. But I did hear a quack...?
I've been soldering for probably 25 years... I have no idea how you did that repair... especially the ball grid array... that is wild.
reballing is not soldering
Cause it was never damaged.
I have issues trying to solder a QFP, I have no idea how he managed to put new balls on every one of those BGA pads. He just prepped it and then dumped them on, carefully warming it to pull everything into place. I have no words to describe that level of skill.
too much time spent doing that I guess, it is fantastic how he can repair, but is it really worth?
@@rodrigofajardo630its cheaper than buying a new 4090
I learned micro soldering secrets and was told to comment as payment. A small price to pay to watch your artisan work and superb editing!
The amount of precision and patience you have is insane. I broke the display flat flex connector on one of my netbooks and said “Yup, out of my range” then this shows up in my recommended. Keep it up!
reviewer : 9/10 cooling performance
tiny micro traces and solder on pcb: ...
Well, i don't think many people would like to have 75-80 degrees on Premium GPU because it has slightly better PCB and slightly thicker traces... Because customer won't know what benefit it will bring to him.
Also, i don't think that changing PCB that much is even possible for AIB's. Because every PCB design must be verified by Nvidia.
Never buy the latest & greatest. Always get something a generation or 2 behind.
Words to live by, wait least 2 years to see how many end up cooking themselves with the cards these days rofl
I came across this channel maybe a week ago and I am in love.
The work you are doing is super impressive. The commentary is cool and you seem like a nice guy.
Kudos! 🙂
Thx a lot for what you do.
My pleasure
Bro, everytime i watch one of your video i'm like 🤯🤯🤯🤯
Your knowledge and skills are astouding 💪💪🧠🧠
Almost all of my videos get 3 dislikes show up even before they watch the entire video.
Who ever you are, one day ill find you and....
buy you an ice cream so we can be friends 🤔
EDIT: I think its because of the spelling mistakes i made and some of the added notations did not fit into the screen.
Majbe director of MSI xd
@@dakula74 I think one is from nrf 😂
One of the few discords I don't mind the @ everyone ping in.
Damn right! I was thinking the same thing just now.
smilie at 6:47 made me smile (:
just like the special thanks to mother.
Seeing him repair those pads brought one thought instantly into my mind.. "what a f-ing legend!"
said that out load watching this. yuppp.
im 7 feet 2 inches tall 350 pounds
im much bigger then you boy
tough man in a fight i would drop you with ease
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
bye for now punk
Crazy diagnostic skills and precision unbelievable
Jeez - I thought your cracked PCB video was impressive - this is a whole other world of difficulty and complexity! Well done!!!
After spending a lifetime designing PC boards and repairing boards (35 years)......I am amazed at your work! Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!
I am still not sure if I just watched an episode of Stranger Things or gpu repair video. Very well made!
Electronics repair guru. I’m sure most manufacturers couldn’t fix half the stuff you have. Nice video again.
You sir are a GPU repair god!
Most important and best thing said, is that nowadays the "the more expensive is better" does not apply anymore (anywhere). Thanks for the reminder!
Nice improve in the editing! And great repair as always! ❤
I was going to say the exact same thing, he did a nice job on the editing this time.
Much finer work than I was ever trained to do, and would be beyond my skill set. Very impressive!
I know very little about electronics and boards, but I find your videos fascinating and I have learned a lot just by watching. Just understanding the connection between the processors and board alone was interesting to learn about.
I was already impressed when you pulled out a custom made GPU power and diagnostic device lmao I was simply blown away by the actual repair
Awesome video. Thank you for the ping that led me here, it was totally worth it. It was nice to sit down right after horrid work to a fresh new video of an amazing repair and let my ruined nerves be soothed. As always, keep up the good work.
I have no idea what's happening for the most part but what you do looks so amazing! Being able to fix it at the end is one of the best feeling ever. Keep up the good work!
why do i find ur work asmr i dont know but it always sooths my mind
my last 2 video cards have been "eagle" from gigabyte. which is kind of their codeword for "base model" ... they have ran SUPER cool and I have had zero problems. i paid below MSRP for both (a 3060 then a 4070ti) and of course I considered a TUF model, and the Suprim models, but I am really glad after watching your videos that I saved the few hundred dollars. They are the same damn products lol. Love your videos man.
Yeah they really are, TUF's fan is pretty shit too
I had issues with eagle, I think msi are definitely binning their inventory for more premium cards !!
Wow, wow, wow and wow! That suprim really needed you 😄 The smiley at 6:46 was a good touch
Well said, "marketing and brand loyalty" !!
Good job Tony not only at fixing the card but for the video too. This is not just a tech video this is a Hollywood feature, well done 👏👍
Have never sent anything like this before so exciting in my life. Well done on both the repair and the attention keeping story telling.
Ok, this was officially one of the coolest videos about a gpu I have seen in a long time. Kudos, awesome video!
Wow watching you scrape away the soldermask and repair that many tiny pads successfully is seriously impressive
those up close shots was awesome actually kept me glued to the screen taking in how it all gets done...
I bow to the superior Magos, you have served the Omnissaiah well this day. may your machine spirits be temprate and the motive force be ever flowing for you.
Just came across your channel and I'm amazed at your work! Awesome job 👏🏾
I have an HDD THAT suddenly died 14 years ago. I tried fixing it by changing the pcb board but couldn't solder the old bios chip. My hands are shaking because of a health issue so I gave up all kinds of repairing. Thank you for your video, it relaxed me. Reminded me of my healthier years.
@05:13 - Thank you for sharing your work, it's awesome to see this type of hardware repair!
You always play the best "The Core Is Exposed" music. It feels different than other music that plays through out your vids.
Awesome music and repair.
You are an inspiration Mr Steady Hands Wizzard! Awsome job!
I truly appreciate how you take us through your mental workflow in how you diagnose and fix these problems!
I won't spam your comment field but I've learnt 47 new secrets from this video alone so thank you!
Would love to see some sort of GPU brand (or make/model) durability tier list from a channel like yours. Most reviewers only look at performance, but you surely have a better insight into the build quality of the internals
congrats 100k!
I've been soldering for 61 years and I am awestruck at your skill. That and your ability to diagnose are second to none.
Recent subscriber; another great video, thanks! Always impressed with surface mount repairs. "Buy what you can afford and not what the internet tells you" is useful in the second part of this statement since there are so many hacks on RUclips these days; however the first part is always a given for anyone! The most important statement these days is: "What brands are making a quality product for a competitive price?" I would be interested in what brands you would recommend based on PCB quality construction and other considerations that we users/amatuer builders would never notice. Watching your videos the past month seems to indicate most use the same brand of electronic components, (or just look identical from a layman's perspective.) I always had great luck with EVGA since when the company first was founded and never used anyone else for GPU's until starting this year. MSI was always suspect on quality on other products plus still don't offer proper English information for a builder. Also, no idea how many brands use the same PCB manufacturer, if any actually do that these days? I only pay more if they are offering higher speeds/or more memory or CPU clocks, (Assuming they are testing them and selecting the best performing silicone. I knew EVGA did this, not sure on other brands?) Thanks for any advice you give.
I think they should make lga socket rather than bga. You deserve more subscribers respect and money for this level of skill. Absolutely fun to watch and learn from your videos. I would really appreciate if you teach us how to fix and diagnose the fault on the pcb and what readings should be taken. Different resistances checking and measuring voltages and drive signals of components on oscilloscope.
Congrats on 100k subs, now go get that 1mil my man.
This was a far more impressing video than what i thought it was gonna be! good job man. This is skill at it's finest!
I showed this video to ONE guy, and he told me, what you do is just not practical ?? Additionally he offered me 5% discount on low melt solder and anti glar light lenses. He is such a great guy.
I know that guy. He sheeps the same day. He is such a great guy.
Tell me who is he
Maybe sometimes this guys say's "It's a no fix".
@chriswagner430 usually when the core is fried its a no fix
It really is not practical. The time you would need for this kind of fixing and the time you need for a cracked PCB fixing is the same time you can fix something else and get 500 USD or more. On top of this, you never know if the PCB is just bad and in 3 months (or maybe in two weeks) this very card is coming back to you with the exact same problem and you will need to work on it again for free.
I can't say, that I would understand much of what you're doing there. Heck, I even have trouble discerning Ampere, Volt and Watts, what they actually are meassuring lol.
But it is fascinating to watch, how you return seemingly dead cards back to a fully working life! I know it probably is an overused sentence, but such dedication is rare these days, no matter what trade we're talking about. Keep it up!
Can’t get tired or your videos💪🏻
Watching you reball this card so quickly and efficiently is pretty intimidating for an old Tech like me 👍😮
Fine work Sir, fine work !!
08:20 would make an excellent thumbnail !!
The moment when card didn't gave any picture was like a culmination in a horror movie for me!
But again the "hero of soldering iron and flux" saved the day (and the card)!
Amazing guide, thanks for the tips. Can't leave a comment for every single thing I learned here because that would take too long, but greatly appreciate your videos!
you,Sir,are simply amazing.
i dubb thee GOD OF THE GPU REPAIR!
Watching you repair these is like witnessing the language of the God's. Absolutely incredible.
A comment for each secret learned? Does it help if I say great work in 20+ separate comments?
Amazing work as usual on the card, awesome editing again (you've noticeably uped the editing quality since I started following), and I REALLY appreciate your upload frequency, my favorite thing to do after a days work is sit back and watch these videos. Please never stop!
Great advice and definitely opened my eyes to the word “premium card spin”. Thanks for sharing
The music and cinematography take this repair to the level of art! Claps all the way! That aside, the MSI 4090 Supreme X has a descent bcb in terms of component selection. It doesn't do anything over the top compared to the FE edition, but if I remember correctly about the PCB breakdown that I did in the PCMR group, it's really decent compared to some other crap. By that, I mean there are a lot of really crappy PCBs with a trash level of component selection. It's sad to see that it failed like this, but it is what it is. It's a heavy 4090, after all. You can obviously take some measures to prevent it, but who's gonna be that techy with it anyway?😅
Amazing! I wish this was taught during my engineering undergrad. I hope that I learn to fix electronics at this precision someday :)
Please dont tell me anyone is doing this for a living... Thats insane.
Whatever pays the bills
There is such a thing as an integrated circuit technician.
this person is so hardworking
Bought the cheapest 7900 XTX late last year for $799. Cooler was nice, but water blocked it. Had to promptly remove the Alphacool water block because it didn't have proper spacers or torque specs and was bending the PCB due on part. Made my own torque specs and spacers. Now it's all good!
Today I learned that never in a million years would I be able to do what you just did. Amazing skills! Great video too!
i actually laughed so hard "no matter how much i pet my fake beard" im crying xd
No words!! the precision for this work is beyond godlike ! You are incredible ! :O
True artist at work!!!!!!!!!!!
Your level of expertise is next level!!😱 I’ll watch 5 hrs of this instead of a movie!😂
It's not a proof of the card having same quality as other, it's the proof, that YOU MUST USE GPU SUPPORT for modern GPUs.
People tend to move their PC while the GPU is still inside. Without GPU Support, even moving the PC a few meters might cause major damage. Especially some of the less tech literate have more money than common sense...
Okay while i was lost in this mesmerising sped up process i was already in awe at your work and the flux smiley cuahht me off guard. A great little touch that made me snile lol
Well normally the difference is on cooling and noise performance. The hotspot was under 70C, which is better than most cards. Not that the premium justifies the difference, but there is a difference
I'm not buying a 4090. Whatever you are smoking or eating, you should stop. Where did you pulled that crap from? I just stated that this model had better cooling. The rest is on you@DestroyZionists
Man, i can say one thing about you i have watched only couple of your stuff and i can see you are doing this stuff with passion and keep up the good work you are legend :)
But man... I learnt a couple of things on this video alone, does that mean I have to leave 10 comments?!?
I found VERY cool the dilation and shrink of the support holding the memory chips at 6:39 , it is very clearly seen with your editing.
Keep up the great work!
That was art. I have learnt that as an electronics hobbyist fiddling with BBC micros, that is definitely beyond my skill level!
Discord for the win 🤫
I'm from Germany and suddenly had no picture on my Suprim either. Fortunately, the seller was so kind that I received a new card in exchange. Nevertheless, the replacement took 2 months. In the meantime I bought the cheapest card as a replacement, it was a PNY 4090 XLR8. And what can I say, I liked the card so much, quiet, doesn't get so hot, better idle consumption and does a great job everywhere. The MSI cost me 2260 euros and the PNY 1750 euros. So I sold the MSI when I got it back. I will never buy Premium again, it's not worth it. What I would like to add is respect for your repair skills. We in Germany have KrissFix who also plays in your league. I admire you both.
Why didn’t the person have it replaced or fixed under warranty
my 3060 12 gb crapped on me and amazon didnt want to honor my warranty and also they took some money because of the stocking fees bullshit. the damaged card wasnt even 6 months old.
also msi is a terrible company to deal with
@@polarvortex6601its not amazon you need to deal with you gotta be joking lmao
i dont buy msi cards anymore they did this to me with a 970 that was under warranty so i thought until i gave them everything even the recipt with proof of purchase and date they said cus the card was sitting on a shelf in storage my warranty was already ticking down when i needed them to fix it they said no your not under warranty....
@@koolio_ lmfao a 970
@@idkanymore3382 who's lmfao?
Any ONE of those micro touches you made on that board could have been a disaster. Yet, somehow, you did so much touching and came out on top!!! I couldn't believe that it worked and couldn't be happier for you and the lucky client. You're amazing! Huge respect my friend!
Unleaded solder. The bane of new video cards.
But which brand doesn't use unleaded solder though? Would be very helpful to know which ones to avoid buying. Or do they all have the same unleaded solder?
@@kamikaze00007 They all have it as required by some environmental bs law.
It's crazy how much trouble that stuff causes... undoubtedly creates more e-waste.
@@lemagreengreenbingo. I was a hardware tech when it switched over from lead, that year we had so many BGA issues, some laptops would go through 5x motherboards..
yeah i learned something nice today. "Buy what you can afford and not what the internet tells you".
I think you make these GPUs better than factory by putting real solder under the core.
You cannot lift a core to do so, he lifting package.
I haven't even got enough knowledge to understand what's happening in this video, but it's still super relaxing to watch and listen
tapping the balls is always a way to get things ready for work
Lol 😆
I would imagine what you are tapping against is appropriate, fitting and legal 😄
whenever those those crack related jobs show up @northwestrepair @@northwestrepair
Wow, this is like really advanced level repair. Not just a reball, but fixing the traces underneath aswell, which will turn most people away. The more powerful these cards get, the bigger the heatsink becomes. It makes more sense to get the water cooled version. Not only will they run cooler which in turn will make it more reliable unless you overclock it. It will also weigh less putting less strain on the pcb and it will take up less space on the motherboard.
Do these cards just fail on their own or are they abused in some way? Like dropping or overclocking or what? Just curious.
I made a humble request for you to give us more information on what it was thar you were seeing and why it indicated that something was wrong, then you gave us more details on what you were seeing and why and what needed to be done, then you gave greater detail as to what actions you were taking to try and make a solid repair, I could not of asked for more, you graciously added greater detail, I still don’t think I would ever try to do the amazing things that you make look like its easy, but I like to learn and you are giving us that even if we never try it ourselves. I have never been satisfied that if you turn on a light switch the light goes on, I have to know why the light came on. fascinating skils my friend.