Slayer 1985 Tour Manager on Venom During Combat Tour, "They were Fn Terrible" Tom Araya/Cronos Fight

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  • Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
  • This is a full in bloom interview with tour manager Doug Goodman.
    Doug talks about the legendary Cronos / Tom Araya fight, The Ultimate Revenge/Combat Tour w/ Venom, Slayer, Exodus, Voivod, Metallica, and taking Venom to Disneyland. It's a really cool piece of old school thrash history.
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    The Cronos / Tom Araya Story:
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    Outro by FOOL OF FATE
    #Slayer #Metallica #Exodus #Venom #Voivod
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  • @eumenideia1812
    @eumenideia1812 2 года назад +52

    Gary Holt (Exodus/Slayer): "During that tour with Venom together in ’84, we immediately bonded with the Slayer guys. It was two bands of friends playing with one band of heroes, you know? We were just star-struck-Venom was one of the bands that helped mold both of us. We cut our collective teeth on albums like _Welcome to Hell_ and now we were on tour with them, watching them bust through “Black Metal” and “Countess Bathory.” It was amazing, man. Venom are personal heroes of mine, huge influence on early Exodus, and still one of my favorite bands of all time."

    • @danielmelcher7275
      @danielmelcher7275 2 года назад +3

      Fucking so cool Wish we all where there Again can't get wait to see you again my friend

    • @davidperez5089
      @davidperez5089 2 года назад

      I don't think Tom was very star struck! Struck un the head by a huge forehead!!!

    • @davidmc3262
      @davidmc3262 2 года назад +2

      yeah first metal band I saw live was exodus supporting venom in Newcastle. good memories 👍

  • @eumenideia1812
    @eumenideia1812 2 года назад +27

    Tom Araya (Slayer): "Without Venom, there’s a good chance there wouldn’t have been a Slayer. Their _Welcome To Hell_ and _Black Metal_ albums were a big influence on our guitarists Kerry King and Jeff Hanneman. We did covers of Venom, Maiden, Priest… Venom was a big influence on Kerry as far as the imagery, and how we did the song-writing. I still think that _Welcome to Hell_ and _Black Metal_ are fucking awesome records, and I still listen to them now actually. Venom was a huge influence, and we started working on our own songs and developed it."

  • @eumenideia1812
    @eumenideia1812 2 года назад +28

    Kerry King (Slayer): "Venom were the first thrash band I heard on record. It really pushed me to be the best. Heavy music to me early would have been Van Halen, Deep Purple. The thing that transformed me was hearing [Judas] Priest on the radio. But, to me, it was all about Venom. I still listen to _Welcome to Hell_ and _Black Metal_ all the time. I was big-time into Venom. I thought Cronos was the single most evil entity I’d ever seen in my life! I was very inspired by that, as you can tell from our early recordings."

  • @sinceunati
    @sinceunati 2 года назад +13

    Imagine getting a headbutt from that huge dome!?!? Tom's lucky to be alive!!!😆😆

  • @billy6220
    @billy6220 2 года назад +37

    Somehow, this makes me like Venom even more.

  • @corvettebmw
    @corvettebmw 2 года назад +9

    I saw Venom Possessed tour in 1986, great gig!

    • @Xbuster6
      @Xbuster6 2 года назад +2

      I'd imagine!

  • @steveneal174
    @steveneal174 2 года назад +11

    That's all I had was that cassette, I think 2 songs, they played Cleveland early 80's ,150 people, after the show closed down the place, about 10 of us stayed after with the entire band got lit up. It was just so different back then, All original metallica guys were like us and we just vibed like brothers. Fuckin give me a time machine, not one of us would turn it down. Fuckin impressed we're alive to not only talk about it, but hell remembering all that crazy shit. We invented the mosh pit. Are you kidding me, Remember I think dudes in Norway tried topping us and use to stack dudes standing on their shoulders like 3-4 people high. Then go in opposite direction on each level. Nobody stop us from doing shit. Everybody was down. Damn, now I'm pumped, making a drink, ice in the bong ,concert on the screen. Love all you crazy sons of bitches 🤘

  • @Canuck1000
    @Canuck1000 2 года назад +9

    The interview with the tour manager does not match the song list of the Venom shows for that tour. Here's the list for the Quebec show on March 28, 1985:
    Too Loud (For the Crowd) (intro)
    Black Metal
    Die Hard
    Nightmare
    Countess Bathory
    The Seven Gates of Hell
    Powerdrive
    In Nomine Satanas
    Welcome to Hell
    Buried Alive
    Don't Burn the Witch
    Warhead
    Teacher's Pet / Poison / Teacher's Pet
    Leave Me in Hell
    Satanachist
    Schizo
    Encore:
    Bloodlust
    Witching Hour
    Too Loud (For the Crowd) (outro)
    From: Venom Setlist at Salle Albert-Rousseau, Quebec City, QC, Canada

  • @Mad_Axe_Man125
    @Mad_Axe_Man125 2 года назад +32

    Cronos is an underrated lyricist.

    • @LadyFairChildVideo
      @LadyFairChildVideo 2 года назад +1

      @@ronnieleedilljrWOLFMAN "souls as slaves, sold as saved".

    • @Xbuster6
      @Xbuster6 2 года назад +1

      Yes

    • @dogslobbergardens6606
      @dogslobbergardens6606 2 года назад

      Nah, he's rated about right, or actually over-rated. "Black is the night, metal we fight"?
      "Lay down your soul to the gods, rock'n'roll"?
      C'mon, man. That's the kind of shit bored 7th graders write in their notebooks. It's just dirt-simple rhyming schemes; the guy can't even write a full sentence. LOTS of pop and rock songs are like that; it's not a big deal, but it's not amazing lyrics, either.

    • @Xbuster6
      @Xbuster6 2 года назад +1

      @@dogslobbergardens6606 I entirely disagree. Not that I mind criticisms, but I think Venom did their lyrics pretty great personally. To each their own, though.

    • @Mad_Axe_Man125
      @Mad_Axe_Man125 2 года назад +4

      @@dogslobbergardens6606
      "Venus arguementor
      Torturing my aged soul
      Fighting through the ashes
      Give me back my skin of gold
      Walking, Watching, Wondering
      The soul she has persued in life
      Will she teach you?"
      yeah they have goofy lyrics but stuff like flytrap is brilliant.

  • @nonrevnosnibormetalbeerrev6251
    @nonrevnosnibormetalbeerrev6251 2 года назад +15

    I was the first guy ever in Northern Ireland to play or listen to slayer, everyone was saying oh have you heard this new band called metallica, I went yeah they are OK but wait till you hear this band, SLAYER 🤘🤘

    • @guyincognito9919
      @guyincognito9919 2 года назад +1

      Damn straight.

    • @nonrevnosnibormetalbeerrev6251
      @nonrevnosnibormetalbeerrev6251 2 года назад +1

      @The Dude aye keep telling yourself that

    • @lockandloadlikehell
      @lockandloadlikehell 2 года назад

      @@nonrevnosnibormetalbeerrev6251
      My close friend lives in Mid Ulster and have another couple friends in the Causeway Coast; one from an actual IRA family and one from a UDR/RUC fam in Ballymoney, who are friends, which is how I met the latter two.
      I'm planning on seeing Kneecap

    • @nonrevnosnibormetalbeerrev6251
      @nonrevnosnibormetalbeerrev6251 2 года назад +1

      @@lockandloadlikehell what kind of nonsense is this and what has it got to do with slayer being brought into Northern Ireland with me 🤔🙄

  • @damionchrist
    @damionchrist 2 года назад +7

    In Ultimate Revenge video you can clearly see Tom Araya has a bloody eyeball from Cronos! 🤘🏻

  • @insin5905
    @insin5905 2 года назад +17

    Great video. The first time I saw Slayer was opening for WASP. I was 12 years old. Life changer. I never saw a crowd respond to a band like that. It was like a bomb went off.

    • @danielmelcher7275
      @danielmelcher7275 2 года назад +1

      Great Bill man

    • @slimgoodboogie2184
      @slimgoodboogie2184 2 года назад +5

      And if it was anything like the WASP/Slayer show I saw on that tour in Feb. 1987, the crowd thinned out considerably after Slayer.

    • @robertzemko6590
      @robertzemko6590 2 года назад +2

      @@slimgoodboogie2184 Massey Hall Toronto? I was at that one and the crowd definitely quieted down when Wasp played.

    • @slimgoodboogie2184
      @slimgoodboogie2184 2 года назад

      @@robertzemko6590 It was a few weeks after your Toronto show, in San Antonio. It looks like the San Antonio show was 02/23/1987, and the Toronto show was 01/27/1987.
      Damn, where’s a time machine when you need one?!

    • @robertzemko6590
      @robertzemko6590 2 года назад +2

      @@slimgoodboogie2184 Yes, I've been hunting down that time machine for some time now, Saw so many great acts from 1976 to 1992 but it's all gone now. By the way I also saw Slayer in Toronto back in Oct 1984 on their Haunting The Chapel tour at a small club ( a real dive ) and that show was even better, super heavy and raw.

  • @smartrn1
    @smartrn1 2 года назад

    Just tremendous content. Thx brotha.

  • @iamtheai2759
    @iamtheai2759 2 года назад +6

    Fantastic interview, thank you!

  • @craigswensen434
    @craigswensen434 2 года назад

    Great content!

  • @metalpractor5150
    @metalpractor5150 2 года назад +2

    Love the pic with slayer and possessed

  • @alkohallick2901
    @alkohallick2901 2 года назад +2

    This is awesome.

  • @NearGuttersPath
    @NearGuttersPath 2 года назад +2

    That explains why their live performance from the Studio 54 show isn't included on the vhs tape, never understood why it was a live clip from the Hammerstein. The Slayer and Exodus live clips are epic, and those ridiculous crowd scenes. hahaha... I wore that vhs thin back in 85. Never understood why they referred to King Diamond as King Belly either.

  • @area51audio
    @area51audio 2 года назад +13

    Doug is a helluva storyteller.

  • @saltpeter7429
    @saltpeter7429 2 года назад +35

    Never was into Slayer as a kid getting into metal. Scared the hell out of me to be honest, I could feel the evil in the cassettes.
    At 19 I found myself seeing Slayer live. On the way home my girlfriend won tickets off of a radio call in show to see them again 3 nights later. I was an absolute converted Slayer fan. one of the best real bands out there, their control and professionalism and command of the stage is nearly second to none. They are a Metal machine. The only other bands that immediately come to mind to have possessed that cred are Judas Priest and... I'll just leave it at Priest. It's a certain thing that's hard to put into words. A dominance of a time and space. A fine tuned unit. Precision and accuracy and synchronization. A visual and auditory assault.

  • @SomboonCM
    @SomboonCM 6 месяцев назад

    Having Doug as my TM was a high point in my career. Absolutely top notch guy.

  • @JackTorrance333
    @JackTorrance333 2 года назад +1

    Late 80s slayer, San Diego. I was happy back then.

  • @treeherder2201
    @treeherder2201 2 года назад +1

    Best channel on YT!

  • @guyincognito9919
    @guyincognito9919 2 года назад +4

    3:09 Mike Muir from Suicidal on the far right (See Slayer's Reseda CA show for Mike introducing them before they take the stage), but is that Mike Torrao from Possessed next to Kerry King? Looks like him.

    • @douggoodman2392
      @douggoodman2392 2 года назад +1

      And, Rocky George to the right with his back to the camera

    • @metalpractor5150
      @metalpractor5150 2 года назад +2

      All of possessed is in the pic I believe

    • @danplaysguitar6706
      @danplaysguitar6706 2 года назад +1

      @@metalpractor5150 yep all of Possessed was there, Jeff has posted that pic many times

  • @bruce5168
    @bruce5168 2 года назад +1

    Venom paved a way for a lot of bands back in the day. Their albums - Resurrection, and Cast in stone are AWESOME too!!!

  • @pastaboy9371
    @pastaboy9371 2 года назад +3

    I was listening to "the Antichrist" from the combat tour when this popped up lol

  • @howieduwit2551
    @howieduwit2551 2 года назад +3

    I still have this tour on VHS! Alive in 85!

    • @colt5189
      @colt5189 Год назад

      I wish whoever has the masters of this show to put them out in the highest definition possible. As you can tell they recorded from two or three cameras the entire time. And so a ton of footage was left off to make this. I'd like to see all three cameras or however many there were.

    • @colt5189
      @colt5189 Год назад

      I wish whoever has the masters of this show to put them out in the highest definition possible. As you can tell they recorded from two or three cameras the entire time. And so a ton of footage was left off to make this. I'd like to see all three cameras or however many there were.

  • @brianstones6234
    @brianstones6234 4 месяца назад

    I saw that tour in Sacramento & tom had the black eye. Everyone was laughing about it! Venom was rad that night but Exodus was magic! "Welcome Sacra-venom-ento" Cronos.

  • @augienajera642
    @augienajera642 2 года назад

    Seen Venom,Slayer and Exodus back in the day at the Hollywood Palladium in 85!!!! Bad A..!!!!

  • @houstonpenguin
    @houstonpenguin 2 года назад +3

    This was great!
    Doug is hilarious and a great storyteller😂

  • @tomsav8848
    @tomsav8848 2 года назад +8

    Lay down your soul to the gods rock and roll

  • @philswanson5429
    @philswanson5429 2 года назад +2

    Les Cheetum from Avenger. Amazing player.

  • @MrOctober44
    @MrOctober44 2 года назад +8

    It's amazing how little Venom have played over the years. They literally play like one show a year.

  • @bryandonahue5446
    @bryandonahue5446 2 года назад +15

    I saw Slayer open for Venom in Montreal and yeah it was a huge piss off Mantas wasn't there and yes Voi Vod was in the audience and couldn't speak English at the time . I got King's and Hanneman's autograph but saying Venom was terrible . C'mon that wasn't the case . Cronos ruled that night . I dig Slayer but would rather see Venom if I had to choose . They didn't copy anybody . They were the first , the black metal gods V E N O fucking M

    • @gerardspringer8576
      @gerardspringer8576 2 года назад +1

      Met half of voi vod. Cool guys. They came to a Soundgarden show in Nyc. 89'

    • @douggoodman2392
      @douggoodman2392 2 года назад +1

      Apologies for forgetting that Montreal was the first show of the tour

    • @johnran6015
      @johnran6015 2 года назад +3

      I'd take Hell Awaits era Slayer over fucking any era Venom dude

    • @oopsydaizi3s824
      @oopsydaizi3s824 Год назад +1

      @@johnran6015 yeah. No question

    • @shawnlee8208
      @shawnlee8208 Год назад

      Massive respect for Venom BUT Slayer and Exodus upstaged the headliners on this tour.

  • @sabyrk
    @sabyrk Год назад

    Who's that up at the top in the Devo shirt? I recognize Araya, King, Hanneman, maybe Zetro, Tom Hunting and Rick Hunolt but don't know the guy at the top.

  • @vistalite
    @vistalite 2 года назад +26

    I saw the Venom/Slayer/Exodus tour. It was a letdown that Mantas wasn’t there and there were two oddball replacement guitarists but Venom was the highlight of the show. Slayer and Exodus were excellent but a short way away from the great bands they were to become. None of those bands could touch Slayer from 86/87 on, though.

    • @HisAssholiness
      @HisAssholiness 2 года назад +2

      dunn played at the palladium , with slayer and exodus , they were still a 3 piece , he quit in 1986 a year later and was replaced by 2 guitarists for the 1987 tour

    • @ghastlybat107
      @ghastlybat107 2 года назад

      I saw the show in Cleveland, OH. at the Variety Theater. They had the 2 guitarists replacing Mantas. Slayer was phenomenal.

    • @WillCarroll13
      @WillCarroll13 2 года назад +3

      The Ultimate Revenge video is misleading. The Venom footage is not from Studio 54. It was filmed at a theater in London. Venom were NOT a 3 piece at the actual Studio 54 gig.

    • @douggoodman2392
      @douggoodman2392 2 года назад +1

      @@ghastlybat107 Up the street from Shattered Records

    • @danielblake1537
      @danielblake1537 2 года назад

      True until Death came out!!

  • @THECLARENCES
    @THECLARENCES 2 года назад +2

    The Omni in Oakland!!!
    xoxo The Clarences

  • @colt5189
    @colt5189 Год назад

    Is Venom where Kerry King got the idea to do that upside cross on his guitar strap? As it looks very similar.

  • @massttrshrdrharmonicminor2002
    @massttrshrdrharmonicminor2002 2 года назад +1

    Slayer and exodus at the
    Pomona Valley auditorium?
    I'm in pomona rn, life long resident of this area,
    I need to get more info or footage of that
    I've never even heard of the pomona valley auditorium
    The glass house
    The fox
    And random little venues and that is it.
    Did they play the glass house?
    Epic, cuz so many great acts have passed thru that place
    I saw Gwar at least 6 times in Pomona
    In a row, until they up the price and gear never went back. They went to Santa ana instead
    RIP to all
    I'm too young for early slayer, my dad would have been the right age, he got into music at a young age, chuck berry to kiss to scorpions and ufo

  • @curtbryan1670
    @curtbryan1670 2 года назад +2

    Saw the Sacramento show. Mantas played that one

  • @russblack443
    @russblack443 2 года назад

    Joncheere is a small mining village in the middle of bfe Quebec

  • @profile1674
    @profile1674 2 года назад +2

    Wow, Venom, Slayer and Raw Power? That's a bill I can get behind alright!

    • @jrporter50
      @jrporter50 Год назад

      The Italian punk rock band? I used to have their first record if so wild stuff lol

  • @bobdrinks
    @bobdrinks 2 года назад +2

    Not sure about anything and venom doesn’t SUCK!

  • @arturoalmazan5262
    @arturoalmazan5262 2 года назад +9

    the dude talking can Hate Venom all he wants. they weren't exactly, a band of excellent musicians however they influenced every early thrash metal band from Metallica to Slayer to Possesed.

    • @ryanjacobson2508
      @ryanjacobson2508 2 года назад +1

      Venom couldn't sustain the momentum of the first couple records, so eventually people didn't take them seriously and preferred other thrash bands.

    • @douggoodman2392
      @douggoodman2392 2 года назад +4

      I never said I hate them, in fact I love them, but they were still terrible live, especially following Exodus (most nights) and Slayer. Both of whom were on their fucking game in those days.

    • @scottashe984
      @scottashe984 9 месяцев назад +1

      He said as much. He was there, you weren't.

    • @arturoalmazan5262
      @arturoalmazan5262 9 месяцев назад

      @@scottashe984 you weren't either

  • @jonathanmossjr5537
    @jonathanmossjr5537 2 года назад

    Tom and cronos having a good metal time woodsy dooo...

  • @bobowrathsovine.
    @bobowrathsovine. 2 года назад +4

    Dark Angel, I only remember they were in an add for Megaforce records in like Faces or Hit Parader where it was them Frehley's Comet and Testament in a 1 page add. Then I started listening to them less than 2 years ago because the drummer Gene Hoglan who has played with like 20 other more famous bands in the last 25 years. But I have to say I swear Dark Angel is the fastest metal music to exist. Every track is lightening fast. No in betweens😮

    • @dragonfly1694
      @dragonfly1694 2 года назад +3

      Dark Angel were on Combat's The Ultimate Revenge II back in 1988 along with headliners Raven as well as supports Forbidden, Faith Or Fear, and Death, who played before Dark Angel & totally blew them away! There were other thrash metal bands equally as fast if not even faster then, such as Sadus, Possessed, Kreator, Cryptic Slaughter, D.R.I., even Slayer, but Dark Angel had 1 legendary album, 'Darkness Descends' 🤘'

    • @bobowrathsovine.
      @bobowrathsovine. 2 года назад +2

      @@dragonfly1694 maybe the overall tempo or singing wasn't as fast as those you mention but the guitar riffs I can't even make em out they're so fast.

    • @lexbeltran1354
      @lexbeltran1354 2 года назад +2

      Dark Angel play even faster live

    • @piotrb8434
      @piotrb8434 2 года назад

      @@dragonfly1694 Possessed were never that fast. D.R.I. and Cryptic Slaughter were hardcore bands, and when they turned thrash metal they slowed down significantly. Slayer were fast but not faster than Dark Angel. Hirax used blastbeats already in 1985 or 1986.

    • @piotrb8434
      @piotrb8434 2 года назад

      Check out Wehrmacht - Shark Attack from 1987. This is thrash metal at the speed of Napalm Death.

  • @mikemonster6860
    @mikemonster6860 2 года назад +1

    Bloodlust video? Its Witching Hour.

  • @CounterRhythms
    @CounterRhythms 2 года назад +1

    I love Venom but it's no secret that they weren't a good live band. They created something magical in the studio but that's it.

  • @arceneaux777
    @arceneaux777 2 года назад +6

    I booked the Omni in Oakland - this is accurate - lol

  • @zachary_attackery
    @zachary_attackery 2 года назад +1

    I don't think Venom have ever done an actual "tour". They never really played small clubs or bars either, they wouldn't play live at all unless it was at least a large theater, so they never really got experience playing live

  • @image30p
    @image30p 2 года назад

    So funny!

  • @keithhampton9700
    @keithhampton9700 4 месяца назад

    I used to have that video. Ultimate Revenge. Venom (as I was told).sucked live. The video Venom parts are dubbed.Still a great video.Take that Studio 54!!!

  • @u.s.m.c.fewproudthemarines2987
    @u.s.m.c.fewproudthemarines2987 2 года назад

    Was supposed to go to Studio 54 show but MOM DAD SAID TO EVIL OF MUSIC

  • @JesusChrist-xb7jq
    @JesusChrist-xb7jq 2 года назад +13

    There’s two sides to every story, and then there’s the truth. I’m guessing the truth is that everyone involved was probably so drunk that they don’t remember what really happened.

    • @cl7510
      @cl7510 2 года назад +3

      Jesus Christ! Never thought I’d see the son of God in a RUclips comment section. Is it ok if I call you JC? Edit: btw, I agree with your comment.

    • @JesusChrist-xb7jq
      @JesusChrist-xb7jq 2 года назад +4

      @@cl7510 I hide my Slayer shirt under my robe. Dad is always threatening to kick me out. Always bitching about how I need to cut my hair too.

    • @FreeMTrider
      @FreeMTrider 2 года назад +1

      @@JesusChrist-xb7jq I would think, since you're Jesus Christ, you can wear any shirt you want.

    • @JesusChrist-xb7jq
      @JesusChrist-xb7jq 2 года назад

      @@FreeMTrider that’s what I tell dad, but he just yells, “I brought you into this universe, I can take you out of it!!!”.
      He’s such a dick sometimes.

    • @Yourmothershouse34
      @Yourmothershouse34 2 года назад

      @@JesusChrist-xb7jq funny stuff lol but christianity is basically Judaism for gentiles which jews see as animals who should be enslaved or killed

  • @Mimic_msm5
    @Mimic_msm5 2 года назад +3

    It's called a "Glasgow kiss" throughout the U.K.

    • @carletonrutherford1799
      @carletonrutherford1799 2 года назад

      I'm in Vancouver BC, and I've heard both, but the first time I heard about it, it was a Scottish kiss. The great thing about it, is most people don't expect it. You can do some good damage.

    • @anntifurz
      @anntifurz 4 месяца назад

      Cronos woulda called it a Geordies kiss

  • @UnderWorldOfDarkness
    @UnderWorldOfDarkness 2 года назад +1

    Tom tries to urinate on Venom dude. Venom dude head butts Tom and gives him a gash on his head that needed at least 5 stitches. Tour manager says it was just two drunk guys and nothing happened. No, something happened. Just that there was no aftermath because both parties involved and both bands let it go. ...which was very cool of them both.

  • @davidames1746
    @davidames1746 Год назад

    Venom are rock and performance Art; it's what they were going for on this tour..I thinks

  • @weilandiv8310
    @weilandiv8310 2 года назад +9

    Took my mom to this show. She said it wasn't heavy enough. Prefers dead horse.

  • @Backlashed
    @Backlashed 2 года назад +3

    In "Get in the Van" Henry Rollins recalls seeing Venom live. "They sucked" was all he wrote.

  • @morsteen
    @morsteen 2 года назад

    345 riverside dr., roseburg oregon.

  • @JoeyArmstrong2800
    @JoeyArmstrong2800 10 месяцев назад

    Quorthon from Bathory took a lesson from Venom. Release scary records with pentagrams and never tour or play live, ever.

  • @HisAssholiness
    @HisAssholiness 2 года назад +3

    was at the palladium for venom and slayer and exodus ... venom put on a first rate show but still got their ass kicked by slayer , who opened for them and were fucking incredible ... best pit ever

    • @scottashe984
      @scottashe984 2 года назад

      I saw Reign in Blood tour outside on acid at like 15 y.o.
      Just as they played that song it started raining for real. The pits were brutal and there was plenty of violence going on. I know a few got stabbed. People climbing over a giant fence. Broken beer bottles everywhere. It was chaos. Saw them 2 years ago last time and they still kick ass but shows aren't like the used to be.

  • @dogslobbergardens6606
    @dogslobbergardens6606 2 года назад +2

    This is going to piss a lot of people off, but I really always thought of Venom as pretty much a joke.
    I understand their influence, and how important those first records were to the whole scene, and all that... but... yeah. To me it was a lot of "image" from day one. A lot of posing about "look how evil I am," and I just find that kinda stuff boring. It's the kind of stuff a 12-yr-old would do to try to impress his buddies, but these guys were old enough to know better lol.
    Then a few years later, a WHOLE lot of bands in both America and Europe tried to "out-Venom Venom" and blechhhh. Sorry y'all but 95% of that shit just bores me to tears.

    • @XvXMONSTERXvX
      @XvXMONSTERXvX 2 года назад +2

      i feel that same exact way but about death metal, thrash metal, and more, all about the image of how evil and super serious you can be and your right its super boring and not fun at all lmao I know im old at 26 but me and my buddies call that stuff old man metal as a lot of that music and their fans give us pretentious yelling at clouds vibes

    • @dogslobbergardens6606
      @dogslobbergardens6606 2 года назад +1

      @@XvXMONSTERXvX "yelling at clouds vibes" LOL I hadn't thought of it that way, but I see what you mean

    • @jrporter50
      @jrporter50 Год назад

      You didn't like their image. The music is brilliant for the time though. Garage asf, dirty, motorhead meets sabbath heaviness with punk overtones. Shit's delicious lol

  • @michaeldelio1870
    @michaeldelio1870 2 года назад

    The space mountain story is great. I can feel the queasiness from here. I never loved those rides either, but there was always someone saying , " what are you a pussy", and we get through it

    • @patr70
      @patr70 2 года назад

      I'm sre most of the guys saying that are now long gone..

    • @scottashe984
      @scottashe984 2 года назад

      Nowadays people need a biologist or racial sensitivity expert to distinguish the difference between a man and a woman and a safe space to cry about it in.Wah.

  • @user-go5hv6dg3d
    @user-go5hv6dg3d 2 года назад

    that were so bad the footage of venom is from Hammersmith odeon lol
    i have the original poster for the ultimate revenge framed , it's badass

  • @nwojason
    @nwojason 2 года назад +2

    lol they were scared shitless of space mountain

  • @davidmc3262
    @davidmc3262 2 года назад +3

    the first metal show I saw was Vernon with exodus supporting in 84 or 85 in Newcastle and to be honest I I thought venom were a great band live . all these turns this guy is talking about saying there Newcastle turns I've no idea what he s talking about I've lived in gateshead all my life . gateshead is right next to Newcastle btw

    • @Malegys
      @Malegys 2 года назад

      october 1985.

    • @davidmc3262
      @davidmc3262 2 года назад +2

      @@Malegys ha my grandad always called my son a uncouth youth and he dam well is . anyhoo I thought it was 85 were you there too Newcastle city hall . I saw alot of good metal bands there .

    • @Malegys
      @Malegys 2 года назад

      @@davidmc3262 Nah, was at Hammersmith in London a couple of days before or after. Got the Exodus set of that gig on my channel btw.

  • @godstomper
    @godstomper 2 года назад

    Hilarious

  • @bflo1000
    @bflo1000 2 года назад +7

    WTF's he talking about? I loved Venom.

    • @FreeMTrider
      @FreeMTrider 2 года назад +1

      We always thought they were kind of a joke at first. Mainly because most of my friends and myself all played guitar. So we were critical of any band that couldn't play and certainly a band that couldn't play live. Venom couldn't really play their instruments....even on a recorded album, but I did like about three or four songs by them. So I guess it was just their attitude that made them Venom. But they rarely ever played live. They just didn't have come to CA.

    • @douggoodman2392
      @douggoodman2392 2 года назад +1

      I STILL love Venom, is there anything heavier than "In League With Satan"?

    • @bflo1000
      @bflo1000 2 года назад +2

      @@douggoodman2392 Yes...Sons of Satan, Angel Dust, Witching Hour, Bursting Out, Rip Ride, Die Hard, and most of the newer stuff. I've also always loved Venom.

    • @Nissardpertugiu
      @Nissardpertugiu 2 года назад +2

      @@FreeMTrider i think its a destroy attitude to piss people off, they developped in amazing musicians and songwriters , much more people give them credit.
      You don't do songs like Nightmare, or At war with Satan or Fly trap or Later Prime Evil if you can't play

    • @FreeMTrider
      @FreeMTrider 2 года назад

      @@Nissardpertugiu lol...being creative has very little with being a good musician live. That's the entire point here. I've seen a lot of the classic metal bands live.....and in the clubs before they were even known on the world stage. Metallica in the clubs of SF was pretty fucking badass. Same with Megadeth, Trauma and a few others. Merciful Fate, King Diamond back in '85. Now I've never seen Venom live and have always loved the first few albums. Countess Bathory, Buried Alive....awesome songs. They were good song writers from the beginning. But they were never known for being good musicians. And on just about every youtube video of them back in those early days, they were pretty bad. I don't think they ever planned on being good musicians. In those days, most of us fans expected a metal band to sound great live. That's the difference between punk and metal. Black metal? Who knows.

  • @dannykrinkle4726
    @dannykrinkle4726 2 года назад

    Interviewer's dream guest. Ask one question and no need to speak again for 20 minutes.

  • @shanep5819
    @shanep5819 2 года назад +4

    that's Mike Muir to the right?

    • @musicmamma
      @musicmamma 2 года назад +2

      Yes

    • @ryanjacobson2508
      @ryanjacobson2508 2 года назад +2

      I believe Tom showed up in a Suicidal music video. Slayer and Suicidal tendencies were both from LA and they knew each other.

    • @oopsydaizi3s824
      @oopsydaizi3s824 Год назад

      @@ryanjacobson2508 Jeff and Rocky were also good friends

  • @dennishuffman785
    @dennishuffman785 2 года назад

    So basically someone out there is telling a fib which is another word for lie but here is the audio of the tour manager 🙄 duh.

  • @markmackay6426
    @markmackay6426 2 года назад +4

    This guy has a bad memory....first show was in Montreal, LeSpectrum, 2 nights there, then Quebec City, then Toronto. Mantas returned to do most of the tour in 85. I saw the first 4 shows, no Mantas but they did the best they could. They opened with Too Loud For the Crowd, not Countess Bathory.

    • @douggoodman2392
      @douggoodman2392 2 года назад +3

      Wow, I think you are right about Montreal being the first show. And sounds like everybody is right about Too Loud For The Crowd. Sorry, I've been to 4400 shows since that Venom tour, and it was 37 years ago!

    • @jrporter50
      @jrporter50 Год назад

      Hahaha respect

  • @mikekrause3671
    @mikekrause3671 21 день назад

    Venom on records sound primitive, but good for what it is , early//original Black Metal. but yeah live sloppy as hell.
    They even said in an interview, (in so many words) ....yeah if you wanna listen to it correctly listen to the records, but live you are going to get 100 % mayhem. so....

  • @danielblake1537
    @danielblake1537 2 года назад

    Yea I tried liking Venom but it's hard lol especially Chuck and his band were greatly influenced by Venom, Possessed and Slayer but I like Death the best

  • @robintaylor485
    @robintaylor485 2 года назад

    🌺#FULLINBLOOM🌺 Is awesome sorry dude but you are you’re just awesome.

  • @rayn.F.E.
    @rayn.F.E. 2 года назад +3

    Slayer ' s real metal make seem Metallica just a rock band .

    • @rayn.F.E.
      @rayn.F.E. 2 года назад

      @Shamdy Crook man i was there ...You can't compare them ,Slayer has been more exteme than any " thrash" metal band ...Reign i'm blood can't be reachable by any ..Master of puppets is a good metal álbum. .but more metallic than Reign ????no way !!! Look for Hammet opinions about the two bands ..they know it well ....Check yourself

    • @ryanjacobson2508
      @ryanjacobson2508 2 года назад +1

      They were all influencing each other and trying to top each other, throughout the 80's.

    • @rayn.F.E.
      @rayn.F.E. 2 года назад

      @@ryanjacobson2508 Metallica and Slayer never seemed alike ,Slayer never stopped being heavier Even in the 90s .Divine intervation ..while Metallica started a suscefull pop rock career with s***y albums ( their style was called modern rock ) ...copying Nirvana videoclips ( it's there !!!) No good álbum until today since Justice for all .. Incredible !! ..where is the creativity ?? Being a pop band , fans always throw You to the backet case ..flops after flops trying for hit parade .then one day about 10 years ago ..You read the papers : "Metálica Will play the same músic like the 80's "!!! Did they Say " they Will write? No . Of course after all vomit from 80s fans ...then they created "the Big Four" concept ha ha ...letting out lots bands who always kept risen the trash metal flag ( Metallica first leaded since the beginning ...like Testament or Exodus or Dark Angel !!! Metallica don't deserve being i'm the Big ten Either .it's the only band with less good albums ..only Four !!..have You ever wonder why James looks always angry in pictures? Because of You today' s fans ...he thinks : they ll never realized we are fake people and posers ...exactly like he said in an old concert in the 80s . The spit fell by Gravity to himself.

    • @PacMan-ph4uy
      @PacMan-ph4uy 2 года назад

      Slayer overrated bullShit

    • @oopsydaizi3s824
      @oopsydaizi3s824 Год назад

      @@ryanjacobson2508 got the boomer all wound up

  • @scooby899
    @scooby899 2 года назад

    Pissing n throwing feces at each other omg !

  • @triggerwarning9725
    @triggerwarning9725 2 года назад +1

    I remember this like it was yesterday 85 was great, but Slayer stole the show like they often did.

  • @Molt408
    @Molt408 2 года назад +2

    great interview!! Always thought Venom sucked and was hype too. San Jose civic had the best shows

  • @chuckufarlie8215
    @chuckufarlie8215 9 месяцев назад

    You got yer autistic or schizotypal or traumatized concept men who invent it and write it and dream it and you have your driven, sober minded craftsmen and brilliant virtuoso's that realize that vision. The best rock bands have a little of both. Metal and punk is like glam rock and prog rock, the forced separation of those interdependent personalities. By the time you get to hardcore and "extreme metal" it becomes dysfunctional and people start selling out theur other halves and cursing them. But the marriage must go on in some manner as it is only through this consumation that offspring may arrise. Venom had the vision, Slayer etc had the chops. Really, things like this should occur within the band but sometimes they do not and even when they do it often comes down to the argument. "I had the idea!" "So what, I did the idea!" It's ego that convinces them they could do it alone. This is an analogy for all our worlds confusion. The sane and good men must embrace the mad and bad men and vice versa or we will all perish. Most can never see this wisdom, though. I don't blame them, almost all popular understood wisdom and human thought is made by spiteful people who took a side a long time ago and refuse to see it and will never admit it.
    The Warrior class and the Shaman outsider must re-unite and rule together through the arbitrator type, the scribe type and the ignorant public masses who act as a filter for that energy/inspiration.
    If you do not agree you are a dysfunctional head on this three headed beast and do not know it. Your enemy will stand shoulder to shoulder with you as you bury your enemy.
    It never ends.
    If you abort ever albino before they are born they wont stop coming...it just doesn'twork that way. The Germans already attempted these experiments and demonstrated its futility.
    You can't bully your garden into growing.

  • @petarticinovic2710
    @petarticinovic2710 2 года назад +1

    Venom were SUPPOSED to be terrible. 🙂

  • @dogfrog9543
    @dogfrog9543 2 года назад

    Welp, at least they're consistent, they're still terrible

  • @alexhicks5889
    @alexhicks5889 2 года назад +2

    Yep, Venom was terrible, but the only reason Slayer weren't equally terrible is Dave Lombardo.

  • @stuartewoldt1513
    @stuartewoldt1513 2 года назад +3

    This dude sounds like a disgruntled employee.

    • @FreeMTrider
      @FreeMTrider 2 года назад +2

      Nah.....I think he's just telling it like it was. I remember when I first heard Venom. They had a few good songs, but they weren't exactly good musicians. And back then, a metal band had to play live and play good. Venom had their image and they ran with it. But I think he's just telling the truth on his experience.

    • @douggoodman2392
      @douggoodman2392 2 года назад +3

      First off, I wasn't an employee, and second I'm far from disgruntled. That was one of the best tours I ever did, so honesty is my only excuse.

    • @stuartewoldt1513
      @stuartewoldt1513 2 года назад

      @@douggoodman2392 well damn, you paint them as something far different than what they portrayed. I thought most bands (especially late 80's) bands played the part great but I just didn't expect it from venom. Oh well live and learn.

  • @morsteen
    @morsteen 2 года назад +1

    Dude,...space mountain sucks. I just had to hang on and close my eyes and wait for it to end. The turns are too violent and jerky,...too disorienting. Horrible ride.

  • @lunadevass5715
    @lunadevass5715 2 года назад +1

    Everytime I've paid to see Venom,they never showed up.Maybe I should thank them.

  • @termsofusepolice
    @termsofusepolice 2 года назад +3

    Venom sucked live because their priority wasn't practicing their musical chops. It was working on occult rituals and the fine points of proper satanic worship.

    • @lunadevass5715
      @lunadevass5715 2 года назад

      They,re just lazy piss heads.

    • @robertpreston2220
      @robertpreston2220 2 года назад +2

      they are not satanists. King Diamond is the only true satanist in metal

    • @morebeer7673
      @morebeer7673 2 года назад

      @@robertpreston2220 A whole lot of folks in Norway would disagree with you, lol.

    • @robertpreston2220
      @robertpreston2220 2 года назад

      @@morebeer7673 The bands in norway never claimed to be satanists. In fact most of them said they were anti-satanism. Only band that were open satanists were dark funeral and they are from sweden

  • @RobertTavea-mt5vb
    @RobertTavea-mt5vb Год назад

    Venom sucks.

  • @SLASHFANG
    @SLASHFANG 2 года назад +5

    Slayer are quitters and venom still rule supreme. This is trash interview.

    • @Yourmothershouse34
      @Yourmothershouse34 2 года назад +2

      Fuck hanneman died dude they were done when he passed

  • @mannybravo237
    @mannybravo237 2 года назад +2

    Venom had no talent on stage to go along with their black metal shtick...they have cool songs, cool image, but are poseurs on stage...