Talking about Enclomiphene, not Clomid. Clomid’s generic name is clomiphene. Definitely should’ve made that distinction. IMPORTANT NOTE: Enclomiphene (and other SERMs) are known for their suppressive effects on IGF-1. If this is important to you and you plan on taking enclo long-term, grab labs for IGF-1 to see how you respond and consider your options. Enclomiphene has the potential to cause permanent vision problems, but this is not established in the clinical literature. Talk to your doctor/abort enclo use at any sign of vision problems (flashes, floaters, unsaturated colors, etc.).
I didn't know enclomiphene can cause Blur vision and floaters. I thought only clomid could cause It. I was looking for enclomiphene tô avoid these sides, so...
@@andbarbsrjI might be wrong but any estrogen agonism or antagosim in the brain can theoretically cause vision problems since estrogen is neuroprotective and is associated with ocular health. I've been considering this medication from my Doctor and I've been debating these side effects as well.
I hope you’re doing better brother!!! Thank you for the info my friend! Been on TRT for three years and it’s been a roller coaster. I forgot the name of it, but they started me off on an estrogen blocker, and that was absolutely horrible so I weened myself off of that, and finally got the dosage on my testosterone, correct and it’s been great except now I have hypogonadism. So now I’m starting the Enclomiphene citrate tomorrow.
@@ronnie7100 You are absolutely wrong. Everyone’s biology is different and with that being said it is 100% proven that smaller doses spread out evenly work well in the body without shutting down the testicles. One of the biggest problems today with men starting TRT is most doctors start them on to high of a level, which 90% of the time has an adverse effect i.e., hypogonadism and estrogen levels being spiked. Enclomiphene taken with TRT at lower doses has shown to work very well with most patients. The best protocol I’ve seen thus far is 25mg Enclomiphene every other day and 1/2 ML Testosterone take once a week.
Great video !! How much does enclomiphene cost a month usually? Do you take it everyday or cycle? If you stop taking it will your testosterone drop low or maintain?
I heard that it boosts your testosterone, which help your gains. When you get off it i’m pretty sure your levels just go back to normal. It doesn’t shut you down
Enclomiphene Vs Clomid big difference in the Half-Life. 6 hours vs 4 days and that makes huge difference in the side-effect long term. Both attach to Estrogen receptors everywhere but the enclomiphene releases on opens up receptors for estrogen action else where. That's important. I have men how all they take is enclompihene for a 10 plus years. A few have gone from T of 350 or less to 800. Some men just can't take Testosterone for various reasons. Enclomiphene is second best but works well.
Hi I can only get Clomid in UK, would I still get a good boost on a safe dose and could I take it long term? (I’m 21) got my bloods done and have only 390 total test!
If I take enclomiphene daily would that keep the estrogen receptors closed in a similar manner as enclomiphene? My Dr. recently put me on 25mg a day. Coming off TRT for about 10 years. Wondering if I should try take eod rather than daily.
Thanks for the information. I use a t clinic that sources hallandale pharmacy and am thinking of asking for enclo. As for the second half of your vid, I’m sorry you’re going through this condition. Keep up your fight brother.
@@joellukacs3356 Jesus Christ, two years. Lots of suffering between now and then. On the upswing at the moment though. It’s going to be hard to live with the after effects of the encephalitis but I’ll find a way. Thanks brother.
Great video ...started by hearing your take on Enclomiphene....the got totally wrapped up in your story. I hope you find some resolution my friend, you deserve some relief. Hang in there. 👍
The half life of Enclomiphen is roughly 10hrs and many guys have said they get better results taking it 2/3 times a week. Most doctors prescribe 12.5mg every other day. In my opinion it’s best to try what your dr prescribes, get blood test after 30 days and go from there on dosage.
For anyone here who’s irritated at people not giving updates on enclomiphene experience. I have some on order and will be here next week as I start my PCT. Will give updates if y’all are interested
Update. For background, did a rad 140 cycle a year ago, used gear cream as test base, no PCT. - definitely had some brain fog and lost motivation for gym, only lasted around 2 - 3 weeks. Same exact cycle except with enclomiphene PCT - started with 12mg every other day. Eventually found 6mg everyday was my sweet spot. Definitely noticed a difference. No brain fog, no lack of motivation. Nothing crazy by any means, but It did make a noticeable difference
My theory is that if you are overweight, and your body easily turns testosterone into estrogen (as is the case for overweight males), taking this will yield negative effects as it will just feel very estrogenic. Ive tried enclomiphene (from two valid sources), and my results are definitely estrogenic. It doesnt feel androgenic at all. I get all the same negative sides that i get from clomid. FTW, I am probably about 20ibs overweight (all in the belly area unfortunately). I am going to experiment with enclomiphene with a moderate AI like androsterone to see if that helps the situation (which i am suspecting that it wont).
It’s half life is shorter It also only blocks certain estrogen receptors Allowing estrogen to attach to the free receptors. So estrogen is being used not completely blocked
Its only blocking the hypothalamic ER’s which are the ones responsible for negative feedback. It wont affect the ones throught the rest of the body where some of which are important
Hope things start going better for you mentally. I have similar issues with hallucinations, audio and visual. I self medicate with phenibut and that sort of brings me down to Earth for almost 48 hours. Scared to take benzos because i used to be addicted to xanax so phenibut seemed right
What’s your dose ? I’m on 12.5mg daily for 2 months. Test went from 480 to 750. I do definitively feel better than I did before but not much symptoms relief. I think I might up the dose
Hey man! Thanks for the info. I might have something for you too. Been using a terahertz device applied to my head on different sides and it has this amazing healing effect. Your brain will respond to it very positively. Try it out!
Hey there’s no videos explaining whether or not you should be taking enclomophine while taking testosterone replacement dosages and for how long and when to start.
Do you think enclomiphene would be the right choice to correct diminished secondary sexual characteristics in men with mild androgen insensitivity syndrome ?meaning i produce high end of normal levels of T but my androgen aren’t receptive
Great video man. I’m really sorry to hear about your brain issues that sounds so difficult are you feeling any better and are you still on enclomiphene? I started clomid 2 weeks ago but upon further research on here and Reddit I’m looking to switch over to what I believe is its better counterpart enclom. Hope things are getting better for you.
Hey man, I appreciate it. Things have taken a bit of a downward turn but my doctor has put me on a new immunosuppressant that might yield benefit in a few months. We’ll see. But yeah, worse off than I was in this video for sure, unfortunately. Optimally, you would run HCG to get the testicles online before stimulating them with enclo for a PCT. Unfortunately, my brain is too sensitive for an estrogenic agent like HCG. I tried to enclo monotherapy to get off TRT but when my T went below 200, again, my brain couldn’t tolerate it. All that said, I was unsuccessful and was only on enclo for a short period. Other people should have better luck since I’m in a unique predicament.
Why dont you try the Gel? I have the Feeling that doctors (at least in Germany) are much more comfortable with it. Also for me it's easier to come off. Also i have heard from many with chronic inflamatory diseases a lot about Low Dose Naltrexone. I want to try it, for fatigue personally.
Someone else mentioned LDN to me as well. I’ll look into that, thank you. As far as gel goes, I could use it but its consistency is all over the place and I’d have to get re-dialed in. Obvi I haven’t had personal experience with it so maybe it’s more effective than I’m led to believe. And it would satisfy my doctor’s concerns 🤔 I’ll have to think about that.
Also possibly ketosis can help you out a bit . It sounds crazy but anything that lowers neuro inflammation. Also dosing taurine 1g three times a day might be beneficial for neuro inflammation
question,ive ben on a medication that as crashed my t levels ,now if i come off it will come back some very slow,but if i take enclomiphene will it help it come back sooner?
Good video! Should you cycle on it? Do you not worry that if you completely stop it that your testosterone will fully shut down? Or does it go back to natural base levels?
Test levels would return back to baseline. This is not a suppressive agent. After extended use, a taper might be wise - but I’ve seen no evidence that it’s 100% necessary.
Since I don't have access to enclomiphene, only to clomiphene, how do I block the estrogen from zuclomiphene in clomiphene? Or can Tamoxifen be used instead of enclomiphene?
@@gabrieljaime2929 Thanks. Clomid also increases SHBG, is it enough to take supplements like boron, magnesium ect. to counteract the SHBG increase, or do they take medication for that?
Thanks man. On my way, but not quite there yet. It does not need to be cycled when used alone. You can stay on it for as long as it’s helpful, and if you need to abort it then your test levels will go back to baseline.
Because doctors don’t know everything; no, it is certainly not as effective as HCG alongside TRT. Not even close. I’ve seen no evidence that it’s effective at all.
I was wondering if it blocks estrogen, does that actually block the effects of estrogen or does it just make it so your brain thinks that there isn't enough estrogen. If it just tricks your brian into thinking there isn't enough estrogen but there is, that would make you produced a lot more estrogen than you need. which could cause gyno. In the other case. if it actually blocks and makes that originally created estrogen not used, then your brain would kick up production of testostorone, in order to make that usual normal range of estrogen, so it would increase the testostorone with out really changing the levels of estrogen. Would anyone be able to let me know which of the two cases it is with Enclomophene?
Your hypothalamus has a negative feedback reaction to estrogen and testosterone. By blocking either of these in hypothalamus, the hypothalamus sends a signal to the pituitary to produce more LH anf fsh. In a woman this will mostly increase estrogen, in men it will mostly increase testosterone. Estrogen should only increase in the natural ratio to testosterone that you normally have. So serms are estrogen antagonists in brain, usually breasts but usually an agonist in bone, skin
Hey I just started after doing sarms for a few months and began to notice gyno and as well as my test dipping to levels below 250 will 12.5mg a day help my test raise even a little?
Yes, it can. I typically suggest to take DHEA if DHEA or DHEA-S is low on labs. I also recommend getting it OTC due to its affordability compared to TRT clinics who sell it.
@@brianjuan43 You can get it pretty much through any popular telemed clinic. Reboot Wellness, Defy, TRT nation probably has it, HormonesForMe. It’s easy to source. Gray market risks it being faked with Clomid
FDA said just because it raises testosterone doesn’t mean there is a place for it. Basically the FDA will remove anything that competes with big Pharma Enclomiphene competes with all their TRT drugs It cheap It works And it can be used long term Therefore the FDA is against it.
Highly doubt it; it has never been documented. But anything is possible. It’s a catch 22 though, as my brain is so touchy that getting off is proving to be an insurmountable task.
Typically daily. Lowest dose would be 6.25mg, highest would be 25mg. 12.5mg in the middle. I think 12.5mg is a good starting dose for most instances, but it depends on if you’re using it for TRT recovery, PCT, or monotherapy.
@@BeachScenes I was unable to restart my HPTA or get LH and FSH up due to my encephalitis. Low T symptoms were amplified and intolerable. Assuming SHBG is normal, enclomiphene monotherapy should cause hairloss just as TRT does. However, this is highly dependent on genetics. Not everyone is affected.
Likely means you have primary hypogonadism (testicles aren’t responding as they should). What dose were you on? Any history of testicular trauma or cancer?
I was thinking that too, however, I would think I would've been diagnosed years ago. I'm 63, my baseline TT hovers in the low 400s, FSH midrange, low normal LH. Maybe double down on the dose to 25mg and retest?
@@RegionalOffice-z1d in my opinion, if you’re past 50, injections are the way to go. Enclomiphene best serves those who want kids. Although, I see the convenience of just taking a pill. Regardless, you could try upping the dosage and retesting in a few weeks.
@@thebroscientist8023 No testicular cancer or any type of damage. Wanted to try enclomiphene as a natural means to induce T production, otherwise would've started TRT.
your smart, you learned the encolmaphine knowlege, i like the shorter half life so 2x a week and tou can get natural estrogen converstion for your hart health and other functions. i think you guy's where exposed to something, also changing estorgen levels us tricky, try and level out you need stabuility. good luck man.
@@barnetthejosh It’s the opposite, actually; I’ve seen no clinical, mechanistic, or anecdotal data that demonstrates that SERMs used alongside TRT improve ejaculate load, testicular volume, and semen parameters.
Bro, where'd you see that enclomiphene can cause clotting? I've been searching for adverse effects in studies and haven't seen clotting yet. Best wishes finding a cure for the AI enceph.
TRT clinics that offer shipping. These are usually telemed. You can call clinics and directly ask them if they offer enclo before ever doing a consult or giving them your info.
Typically, this medication is taken every day. If, for example, you get 25mg capsules (which can’t be split with a pill splitter) but want to average to 12.5mg ed, then it’s not uncommon to take enclo eod. Beyond that, it’s not a medication you should take less frequent then eod in my opinion. Higher risk for sides.
@@thebroscientist8023 "Beyond that, it’s not a medication you should take less frequent then eod in my opinion. Higher risk for sides." This statement has no logic did you mean more frequent?
@@Vonusias you shouldn’t take any “more frequent?” Literature shows dosing every day, which is optimal. EOD still works. Further apart than that and your risking its efficacy and side effect profile based on anecdotal data.
@@thebroscientist8023 This makes no sense the half life is 10.5 hours so taking every 3 days could be more effective as it gives the receptors chance to resensitise and averse the risks. The literature also says that testosterone stays elevated for a week after administration so how could saturating the receptors every day have less risk than giving the receptors a chance to stabilise? There’s no logic to it
Am I crazy or are you InTheMoney??? Swear yall look the exact same, and have the neuro problems. It would be embarrassing if you weren’t 😂. Anyways thanks for the video much appreciated, hope you get the neurological problems sorted out brother. Much love brother.
Shit man, your diagnosis sounds terrible. I experienced psychosis for like 2 months, and my doc described brain inflammation. Ruined my life, but I’m rebuilding slowly. Your video was super comprehensive for an overview on enclomiphene. The benefits sound really promising!!
Yes to all 3. Spinal tap also explored every bacterial and viral etiology under the sun. Neg for any primary psych illness via examination of two psychiatrists. No drug use prior to developing symptoms
@@michaell1425 Currently, no evidence of that. By diagnosis of exclusion, I have autoimmune encephalitis. Until anything else pops hot, that’s what my neuro is going with and treating me for
@@thebroscientist8023 According to Dietrich Klinghardt -- maybe the best doctor in the world, an autoimmune attack often (always?) indicates toxicity in the cells being attacked. In other words, the immune system is trying to get rid of the toxins in the cells, not the cells per se. Have you trialed any chelators like DMPS, Emeramide (my favorite), or even Cilantro tincture? I have chronic illness manifesting with psychiatric symptoms (severe depression, irritability, anxiety, etc.), so I am only trying to help.
Negative. With a broken HPTA (nuts and brain communication disconnected/shutdown on pellets), enclomiphene, or any other SERM, will be ineffective for boosting endogenous T, maintaining testicle size, fertility, or ejaculate load. TL;DR: No. SERMs don’t work on TRT - be that injections, pellets, cream, etc.
@@joak1855 Correct. It can be run with less suppressive agents such as SARMs to some degree of success, but testosterone is too suppressive for any SERM (enclo) to be effective at raising endogenous test production when run side-by-side.
I agree, but every neurologist I’ve ever seen has asked me if I’ve had the vaccine with high suspicion (I haven’t). They’ve seen some post-vaccine encephalitis cases.
You don’t measure it maybe because you expect that the measurements will not be good for you. You say it has not been demonstrated to do it because failure to measure it means you have not demonstrated it. That’s the rules.
Great video. Thanks for the info, and sorry to hear about your condition. Have you considered the DAN chelation protocol using alpha lipoic acid? I have both personal and professional experience of its use for encephalitis, A.K.A .something-we're-not-allowed-to-speak-about-on-this-platform.
Currently at the hospital getting plasma exchange and cellcept. Also getting e6mo rituximab infusions. So I’m covered in the immunosuppressant department. Just waiting to see how I respond to the cellcept. Edit: I’ve also had a serum and CSF cytokine panel done and IL-17 was normal, so taltz would likely have no effect.
Talking about Enclomiphene, not Clomid. Clomid’s generic name is clomiphene. Definitely should’ve made that distinction.
IMPORTANT NOTE:
Enclomiphene (and other SERMs) are known for their suppressive effects on IGF-1. If this is important to you and you plan on taking enclo long-term, grab labs for IGF-1 to see how you respond and consider your options.
Enclomiphene has the potential to cause permanent vision problems, but this is not established in the clinical literature. Talk to your doctor/abort enclo use at any sign of vision problems (flashes, floaters, unsaturated colors, etc.).
I didn't know enclomiphene can cause Blur vision and floaters. I thought only clomid could cause It. I was looking for enclomiphene tô avoid these sides, so...
@@andbarbsrjClomid cause visual problems not e enclomiphene
@@andbarbsrjI might be wrong but any estrogen agonism or antagosim in the brain can theoretically cause vision problems since estrogen is neuroprotective and is associated with ocular health. I've been considering this medication from my Doctor and I've been debating these side effects as well.
I hope you’re doing better brother!!! Thank you for the info my friend! Been on TRT for three years and it’s been a roller coaster. I forgot the name of it, but they started me off on an estrogen blocker, and that was absolutely horrible so I weened myself off of that, and finally got the dosage on my testosterone, correct and it’s been great except now I have hypogonadism. So now I’m starting the Enclomiphene citrate tomorrow.
Whats your experience on enclomiphene ?
@@tonehernandez8598. It’s been awesome! I’m almost completely off testosterone. Testicle are almost back to normal size and function.
bro TRT completely shuts down the testes, which is the exact same thing as hypogonadim lmaoo
@@ronnie7100 You are absolutely wrong. Everyone’s biology is different and with that being said it is 100% proven that smaller doses spread out evenly work well in the body without shutting down the testicles.
One of the biggest problems today with men starting TRT is most doctors start them on to high of a level, which 90% of the time has an adverse effect i.e., hypogonadism and estrogen levels being spiked.
Enclomiphene taken with TRT at lower doses has shown to work very well with most patients.
The best protocol I’ve seen thus far is 25mg Enclomiphene every other day and 1/2 ML Testosterone take once a week.
@@tonehernandez8598 It’s been great! No more anxiety or any adverse effects. Test levels went up 400/500 putting me at 940 with Enclomiphene alone.
Been on enclomiphine mono therapy for 6 months now. It’s been great. TT went from 359 to 759 in a month.
what dose did you take, was the libido good?
@@alexshift4479 started at 6.5 mgs libido was ok. Moved to 12.5 and it got better.
@@michaelpearce6284 libido kept and did not fall all 6 months?
Still doing good. I am still using it.
@@michaelpearce6284 I ordered enclomiphene and I look forward to it) do you take anastrozole?
As far as the fda, there's only one thing that you need to know about them. If it's actually beneficial for people, they don't like it
More people need to realize this.
Sad story bro, I hope you and your brother get well and stay well , thanks for the info in enclomiphine
Thanks for the info and hang in there man. Will add you to my prayers and hope you experience relief soon. 🙏
Much love, brother. Thank you
Great video !! How much does enclomiphene cost a month usually? Do you take it everyday or cycle? If you stop taking it will your testosterone drop low or maintain?
I heard that it boosts your testosterone, which help your gains. When you get off it i’m pretty sure your levels just go back to normal. It doesn’t shut you down
Enclomiphene Vs Clomid big difference in the Half-Life. 6 hours vs 4 days and that makes huge difference in the side-effect long term. Both attach to Estrogen receptors everywhere but the enclomiphene releases on opens up receptors for estrogen action else where. That's important. I have men how all they take is enclompihene for a 10 plus years. A few have gone from T of 350 or less to 800. Some men just can't take Testosterone for various reasons. Enclomiphene is second best but works well.
Hi I can only get Clomid in UK, would I still get a good boost on a safe dose and could I take it long term? (I’m 21) got my bloods done and have only 390 total test!
If I take enclomiphene daily would that keep the estrogen receptors closed in a similar manner as enclomiphene? My Dr. recently put me on 25mg a day. Coming off TRT for about 10 years. Wondering if I should try take eod rather than daily.
Thanks for the information. I use a t clinic that sources hallandale pharmacy and am thinking of asking for enclo. As for the second half of your vid, I’m sorry you’re going through this condition. Keep up your fight brother.
I’m just catching your video now, bro. I hope everything’s good. It’s two years later, but I hope you’re doing well, man.
@@joellukacs3356 Jesus Christ, two years. Lots of suffering between now and then.
On the upswing at the moment though. It’s going to be hard to live with the after effects of the encephalitis but I’ll find a way.
Thanks brother.
Great video ...started by hearing your take on Enclomiphene....the got totally wrapped up in your story. I hope you find some resolution my friend, you deserve some relief. Hang in there. 👍
Thanks man. Navigating the medical system with a rare disease is a bitch.
The half life of Enclomiphen is roughly 10hrs and many guys have said they get better results taking it 2/3 times a week. Most doctors prescribe 12.5mg every other day.
In my opinion it’s best to try what your dr prescribes, get blood test after 30 days and go from there on dosage.
For anyone here who’s irritated at people not giving updates on enclomiphene experience. I have some on order and will be here next week as I start my PCT.
Will give updates if y’all are interested
Update?
@@InterdimensionalBarbelldude died.
Update. For background, did a rad 140 cycle a year ago, used gear cream as test base, no PCT.
- definitely had some brain fog and lost motivation for gym, only lasted around 2 - 3 weeks.
Same exact cycle except with enclomiphene PCT - started with 12mg every other day. Eventually found 6mg everyday was my sweet spot.
Definitely noticed a difference. No brain fog, no lack of motivation. Nothing crazy by any means, but It did make a noticeable difference
@@jlev9513 💪👍👍👍
Where you get your enclo from mate @jlev9513
Great video man!!! Sorry to here about your brain bugs!! Horrendous!!! Wishing you the best and strength for you challenge!!
My theory is that if you are overweight, and your body easily turns testosterone into estrogen (as is the case for overweight males), taking this will yield negative effects as it will just feel very estrogenic. Ive tried enclomiphene (from two valid sources), and my results are definitely estrogenic. It doesnt feel androgenic at all. I get all the same negative sides that i get from clomid. FTW, I am probably about 20ibs overweight (all in the belly area unfortunately).
I am going to experiment with enclomiphene with a moderate AI like androsterone to see if that helps the situation (which i am suspecting that it wont).
Any update?
@@johncrowofficial yes he breastfed me a month back
I'm confused, so you take Enclo and testosterone?
Enclomiphene sounds like a superior option to TRT but it can't be good to block estrogen receptors long term, right?
It’s half life is shorter
It also only blocks certain estrogen receptors
Allowing estrogen to attach to the free receptors.
So estrogen is being used not completely blocked
Its only blocking the hypothalamic ER’s which are the ones responsible for negative feedback. It wont affect the ones throught the rest of the body where some of which are important
It's not a replacement for trt but it may delay the process.
Some men can't benefit it
please do a hair update. have you added anything else? your hair looks better
Hope things start going better for you mentally. I have similar issues with hallucinations, audio and visual. I self medicate with phenibut and that sort of brings me down to Earth for almost 48 hours. Scared to take benzos because i used to be addicted to xanax so phenibut seemed right
What’s your dose ? I’m on 12.5mg daily for 2 months. Test went from 480 to 750. I do definitively feel better than I did before but not much symptoms relief. I think I might up the dose
No TRT or anything else? Just enclomiphine? any side effects?
Maybe your symptoms are not t related ever think of that
@@iamthefiremanjj Yeah I did think of that. I hopped on testosterone and off enclom and I feel 10 times better. So it was T related 🤷🏽♂️
@@diamondacetraining8433 no shit ! So you stopped everything and feel better ? Dude awesome
I’m actually starting it this week 25mg a day as a pct I’m excited to get off TRT
Hey man! Thanks for the info. I might have something for you too. Been using a terahertz device applied to my head on different sides and it has this amazing healing effect. Your brain will respond to it very positively. Try it out!
Hey there’s no videos explaining whether or not you should be taking enclomophine while taking testosterone replacement dosages and for how long and when to start.
Do you think enclomiphene would be the right choice to correct diminished secondary sexual characteristics in men with mild androgen insensitivity syndrome ?meaning i produce high end of normal levels of T but my androgen aren’t receptive
Great info 🫡
If I was looking for something to improve gains muscle recover, strength gains etc would this help ? Or really r the effects minimal ?
You’ll get a better sex drive improve in motivation and a slightly increased recovery and muscle mass
Only if you already have low t
What clinic is the enclomiphene from?
Great video man. I’m really sorry to hear about your brain issues that sounds so difficult are you feeling any better and are you still on enclomiphene? I started clomid 2 weeks ago but upon further research on here and Reddit I’m looking to switch over to what I believe is its better counterpart enclom. Hope things are getting better for you.
Hey man, I appreciate it. Things have taken a bit of a downward turn but my doctor has put me on a new immunosuppressant that might yield benefit in a few months. We’ll see. But yeah, worse off than I was in this video for sure, unfortunately.
Optimally, you would run HCG to get the testicles online before stimulating them with enclo for a PCT. Unfortunately, my brain is too sensitive for an estrogenic agent like HCG. I tried to enclo monotherapy to get off TRT but when my T went below 200, again, my brain couldn’t tolerate it.
All that said, I was unsuccessful and was only on enclo for a short period. Other people should have better luck since I’m in a unique predicament.
Hi!
Which country available in 2023 and what is the brand name?
Thank you
Why dont you try the Gel? I have the Feeling that doctors (at least in Germany) are much more comfortable with it. Also for me it's easier to come off. Also i have heard from many with chronic inflamatory diseases a lot about Low Dose Naltrexone. I want to try it, for fatigue personally.
Someone else mentioned LDN to me as well. I’ll look into that, thank you.
As far as gel goes, I could use it but its consistency is all over the place and I’d have to get re-dialed in. Obvi I haven’t had personal experience with it so maybe it’s more effective than I’m led to believe. And it would satisfy my doctor’s concerns 🤔 I’ll have to think about that.
Also possibly ketosis can help you out a bit . It sounds crazy but anything that lowers neuro inflammation. Also dosing taurine 1g three times a day might be beneficial for neuro inflammation
question,ive ben on a medication that as crashed my t levels ,now if i come off it will come back some very slow,but if i take enclomiphene will it help it come back sooner?
Good video! Should you cycle on it? Do you not worry that if you completely stop it that your testosterone will fully shut down? Or does it go back to natural base levels?
Test levels would return back to baseline. This is not a suppressive agent. After extended use, a taper might be wise - but I’ve seen no evidence that it’s 100% necessary.
@@thebroscientist8023 thanks for the response
I wanna run it for 3 month for gym gains at 41 thoughts ???
How to take it on an empty stomach or with food how can I take it?👍🏻
Do you take enclomiphene every day I'm confused on the dosage. I been taking it ever day
Common dosages are 6.25-25mg daily. A lot of people find less is more with this drug.
@@thebroscientist8023 thank you 🙂
Wait...what?? I used to get options trading information from you. Wow!!
That would be my twin brother, Adam
Is your test lower than baseline once you stop taking it? or would it not be affected?
It will return to baseline.
I really thought the FDA banned enclo a month ago. I still am able to order my stuff but yeah the future looks sketch.
Where are u orderin if u dont mind me asking? From what i heard it is about to stop being produced and last batches are being sold.
Why do you say the future looks sketch
Awesome video
This video is awesome
Since I don't have access to enclomiphene, only to clomiphene, how do I block the estrogen from zuclomiphene in clomiphene? Or can Tamoxifen be used instead of enclomiphene?
They typically prescribe Anastrozole with Clomid.
@@gabrieljaime2929 Thanks. Clomid also increases SHBG, is it enough to take supplements like boron, magnesium ect. to counteract the SHBG increase, or do they take medication for that?
Does enclomiphene need to be cycled? Hope you're doing better mentally.
Thanks man. On my way, but not quite there yet.
It does not need to be cycled when used alone. You can stay on it for as long as it’s helpful, and if you need to abort it then your test levels will go back to baseline.
@@thebroscientist8023 Appreciate the quick and helpful reply.
How often would tou take a 12.5mg pill of it?
Daily
Why is my doctor prescribing me this alongside TRT if it doesn’t work with TRY. He saying it’s just as effective as HCG
Because doctors don’t know everything; no, it is certainly not as effective as HCG alongside TRT. Not even close. I’ve seen no evidence that it’s effective at all.
just wondering does it lower tour natural testosterone after you hop off of it. or do you take it for as long as you can
Your testosterone will return to baseline.
@@thebroscientist8023 thank you so much.
I was wondering if it blocks estrogen, does that actually block the effects of estrogen or does it just make it so your brain thinks that there isn't enough estrogen. If it just tricks your brian into thinking there isn't enough estrogen but there is, that would make you produced a lot more estrogen than you need. which could cause gyno. In the other case. if it actually blocks and makes that originally created estrogen not used, then your brain would kick up production of testostorone, in order to make that usual normal range of estrogen, so it would increase the testostorone with out really changing the levels of estrogen. Would anyone be able to let me know which of the two cases it is with Enclomophene?
2nd case afaik
Your hypothalamus has a negative feedback reaction to estrogen and testosterone. By blocking either of these in hypothalamus, the hypothalamus sends a signal to the pituitary to produce more LH anf fsh. In a woman this will mostly increase estrogen, in men it will mostly increase testosterone. Estrogen should only increase in the natural ratio to testosterone that you normally have. So serms are estrogen antagonists in brain, usually breasts but usually an agonist in bone, skin
Hey I just started after doing sarms for a few months and began to notice gyno and as well as my test dipping to levels below 250 will 12.5mg a day help my test raise even a little?
Talk to a doctor, look up peteruncaged or coremedicalgroup or something similar
Damn what sarm did u take?
@@roccoisfat3184 id guess Rad140
@@JLJE54 gotta be something like that. He got MESSED up
50 ed week 1, 25 ed week 2, 12.5 ed week 3. 12.5 eod week 4. Forget SARMs for 6 months or more
Do you have a stock market channel? You look so familiar
@@Jgw92 My brother does. InTheMoney
Anyone that has been on Enclomiphene? Imma start soon and want some feedback and results you guys experienced, thanks!
Do you know if dhea can be taken with enclomiphene?
Yes, it can. I typically suggest to take DHEA if DHEA or DHEA-S is low on labs. I also recommend getting it OTC due to its affordability compared to TRT clinics who sell it.
Where can i buy this
Do you have a trading channel as well?
That’s my twin brother
High grade omega 3s reduce neuroinflammation, go carnivore and eat fish a few times a week too.
I just bought some off of swiss chems
How’s it going ?
I only ask because I just bought a bottle off of SwissChem
Enclomiphene monotheraphy will this do anything about testicular growth?
Yes
@@anguslean4058 Cool, btw my estrogen and shbg are lowish now while being natty. Would enclomiphene improve these numbers?
We’re did you get please
@@brianjuan43 You can get it pretty much through any popular telemed clinic. Reboot Wellness, Defy, TRT nation probably has it, HormonesForMe. It’s easy to source. Gray market risks it being faked with Clomid
I don’t understand it says online that it is banned by FDA??
FDA said just because it raises testosterone doesn’t mean there is a place for it.
Basically the FDA will remove anything that competes with big Pharma
Enclomiphene competes with all their TRT drugs
It cheap
It works
And it can be used long term
Therefore the FDA is against it.
Do you think TRT has to do with whatever you're going through now?
Highly doubt it; it has never been documented. But anything is possible. It’s a catch 22 though, as my brain is so touchy that getting off is proving to be an insurmountable task.
How often do you take it? And at what measurements?
Typically daily. Lowest dose would be 6.25mg, highest would be 25mg. 12.5mg in the middle. I think 12.5mg is a good starting dose for most instances, but it depends on if you’re using it for TRT recovery, PCT, or monotherapy.
no ones gonna talk abt this guys pupils?
Did the enclomiphene cause the encepatitis?
Negative
@@thebroscientist8023 ok thanks. Did it cause hair loss? If so, when the did hair loss start?
@@BeachScenes I was unable to restart my HPTA or get LH and FSH up due to my encephalitis. Low T symptoms were amplified and intolerable.
Assuming SHBG is normal, enclomiphene monotherapy should cause hairloss just as TRT does. However, this is highly dependent on genetics. Not everyone is affected.
Do I take 12.5mg a day? Every day?
Dosages range from 6.25mg to 25mg dosed daily or every other day. Best to start low to see how you respond. 12.5mg daily is not uncommon.
2 a week
I get dp/Dr all the time on TRT I’m stopping it because of that
One month on 12.5mg enclomiphene from Empower Pharmacy - no change in total, free of bioavailable testoserone, FSH, LH, IGF-1. Thoughts?
Likely means you have primary hypogonadism (testicles aren’t responding as they should). What dose were you on? Any history of testicular trauma or cancer?
I was thinking that too, however, I would think I would've been diagnosed years ago. I'm 63, my baseline TT hovers in the low 400s, FSH midrange, low normal LH. Maybe double down on the dose to 25mg and retest?
@@RegionalOffice-z1d in my opinion, if you’re past 50, injections are the way to go. Enclomiphene best serves those who want kids. Although, I see the convenience of just taking a pill.
Regardless, you could try upping the dosage and retesting in a few weeks.
@@thebroscientist8023 No testicular cancer or any type of damage. Wanted to try enclomiphene as a natural means to induce T production, otherwise would've started TRT.
I have been reading that it lowers IGF-1, do you feel less pumps at the grym from using it ??
People with lower I-GF1 live longer
Open source
your smart, you learned the encolmaphine knowlege, i like the shorter half life so 2x a week and tou can get natural estrogen converstion for your hart health and other functions. i think you guy's where exposed to something, also changing estorgen levels us tricky, try and level out you need stabuility. good luck man.
Does it stimulate the testes if you’re in exogenous testosterone at the same time ?
Negative.
@@thebroscientist8023 ok so it’s really only hcg and hmg that work while on.
@@thebroscientist8023 have you got evidence to back this up ?
@@barnetthejosh It’s the opposite, actually; I’ve seen no clinical, mechanistic, or anecdotal data that demonstrates that SERMs used alongside TRT improve ejaculate load, testicular volume, and semen parameters.
@@thebroscientist8023 Hmm… it’s hard to discern, but I think I can.
Bro, where'd you see that enclomiphene can cause clotting? I've been searching for adverse effects in studies and haven't seen clotting yet. Best wishes finding a cure for the AI enceph.
enclomiphine can cause a stroke lol
Dude, that's crazy shit
Ever tried HMG ? Not hcg but HMG ?
buying from research company is cheaper and just as good
Unless they pull a fast one and substitute it with Clomid. Not uncommon.
it's banned now, right?
I’m not seeing any news that is telling one way or the other. I believe it is still available.
Where can i get it?
TRT clinics that offer shipping. These are usually telemed. You can call clinics and directly ask them if they offer enclo before ever doing a consult or giving them your info.
@@thebroscientist8023 how can i contact you ?
@@rithikbn5783 Receptor Chem
@@jiblybrice6519 you tried? works?
Get vitamin D light too
Do you take 25mg everyday or three times a week or eod?
Typically, this medication is taken every day. If, for example, you get 25mg capsules (which can’t be split with a pill splitter) but want to average to 12.5mg ed, then it’s not uncommon to take enclo eod.
Beyond that, it’s not a medication you should take less frequent then eod in my opinion. Higher risk for sides.
@@thebroscientist8023 "Beyond that, it’s not a medication you should take less frequent then eod in my opinion. Higher risk for sides." This statement has no logic did you mean more frequent?
@@Vonusias you shouldn’t take any “more frequent?”
Literature shows dosing every day, which is optimal. EOD still works. Further apart than that and your risking its efficacy and side effect profile based on anecdotal data.
@@thebroscientist8023 This makes no sense the half life is 10.5 hours so taking every 3 days could be more effective as it gives the receptors chance to resensitise and averse the risks. The literature also says that testosterone stays elevated for a week after administration so how could saturating the receptors every day have less risk than giving the receptors a chance to stabilise? There’s no logic to it
I'm trying to find a clinic so I can get on enclomiphene. I can't seem to find it
I don’t want to be a shill for a TRT clinic, so I would make a post asking about it on Reddit, r/testosterone and/or r/TRThelp
@@thebroscientist8023 where?
@@Shade_223 Got mine from Nu Image
Am I crazy or are you InTheMoney??? Swear yall look the exact same, and have the neuro problems. It would be embarrassing if you weren’t 😂. Anyways thanks for the video much appreciated, hope you get the neurological problems sorted out brother. Much love brother.
He’s my twin brother! Thank you for the kind words. On my way out of this mess as we speak
Shit man, your diagnosis sounds terrible. I experienced psychosis for like 2 months, and my doc described brain inflammation. Ruined my life, but I’m rebuilding slowly.
Your video was super comprehensive for an overview on enclomiphene. The benefits sound really promising!!
I see 954 on your bottle , you in SFL ?
No, but the clinic I got it from is.
Have you explored Lyme, heavy metal toxicity, mold, and other things like that?
Yes to all 3. Spinal tap also explored every bacterial and viral etiology under the sun. Neg for any primary psych illness via examination of two psychiatrists. No drug use prior to developing symptoms
@@thebroscientist8023 Ok, so you are fairly certain you have no infection or toxic overload?
@@michaell1425 Currently, no evidence of that. By diagnosis of exclusion, I have autoimmune encephalitis. Until anything else pops hot, that’s what my neuro is going with and treating me for
@@thebroscientist8023 According to Dietrich Klinghardt -- maybe the best doctor in the world, an autoimmune attack often (always?) indicates toxicity in the cells being attacked. In other words, the immune system is trying to get rid of the toxins in the cells, not the cells per se. Have you trialed any chelators like DMPS, Emeramide (my favorite), or even Cilantro tincture? I have chronic illness manifesting with psychiatric symptoms (severe depression, irritability, anxiety, etc.), so I am only trying to help.
@@thebroscientist8023damn bro hope you get better asap
PEMF maybe ?
Can you take it with TRT pellets?
Negative. With a broken HPTA (nuts and brain communication disconnected/shutdown on pellets), enclomiphene, or any other SERM, will be ineffective for boosting endogenous T, maintaining testicle size, fertility, or ejaculate load.
TL;DR: No. SERMs don’t work on TRT - be that injections, pellets, cream, etc.
@@thebroscientist8023 so enclo won't work while on exogenous test? Only post cycle?
@@joak1855 Correct. It can be run with less suppressive agents such as SARMs to some degree of success, but testosterone is too suppressive for any SERM (enclo) to be effective at raising endogenous test production when run side-by-side.
Do you think I can run it with rad 140 with enclo if I have low testosterone, ..I tried rad 140 by it self but it made things worse .
Are you also inthemoney?
No, that’s my brother
And dosage
and how
The Covid vaccine is safe AF though.
I agree, but every neurologist I’ve ever seen has asked me if I’ve had the vaccine with high suspicion (I haven’t). They’ve seen some post-vaccine encephalitis cases.
Yo man. I’d really like to talk to you.
Head over to r/TRThelp on Reddit and DM me. I’m the moderator. Or, sort by “hot” on that sub and join my Discord, which is pinned at the top.
some great points. But it does lower IGF-1. To low..you gonna have hard time building any muscle
Lowering IGF-1 is associated with higher longevity
You don’t measure it maybe because you expect that the measurements will not be good for you. You say it has not been demonstrated to do it because failure to measure it means you have not demonstrated it. That’s the rules.
Bro the dose..
What
Great video. Thanks for the info, and sorry to hear about your condition.
Have you considered the DAN chelation protocol using alpha lipoic acid? I have both personal and professional experience of its use for encephalitis, A.K.A .something-we're-not-allowed-to-speak-about-on-this-platform.
If its autoimmune, try an immunosuppresant. I respond well to taltz.
Currently at the hospital getting plasma exchange and cellcept. Also getting e6mo rituximab infusions. So I’m covered in the immunosuppressant department. Just waiting to see how I respond to the cellcept.
Edit: I’ve also had a serum and CSF cytokine panel done and IL-17 was normal, so taltz would likely have no effect.
LORD JESUS BLESS U AND HEAL U BRO
@@stevenshilaita4204 Thank you bro 🙏🏼
Where can i buy
The same place they’re sold