Skyrim vs Oblivion - The Daedric Prince Quests - Which are BETTER?
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- Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2020
- In our latest Elder Scrolls video we discuss a which game had better Daedric Quests, Skyrim or Oblivion?
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is an open world action role-playing video game developed by Bethesda Game Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks. It is the fifth main installment in The Elder Scrolls series and was released worldwide on November 11, 2011. The game's main story revolves around the player character and their quest to defeat Alduin the World-Eater, a dragon who is prophesied to destroy the world. The videogame is set two hundred years after the events of Oblivion, and takes place in the fictional province of Skyrim.
At FudgeMuppet, we uncover the elder scrolls lore secrets that make this game so sensational, and also have many discussions regarding our thoughts on the various games. In this video we're going to be diving into the Daedric Princes and their quests in both Skyrim and Oblivion. I love Oblivion so much, perhaps more than Skyrim (depending on my mood), so I was quite surprised when I got as objective as possible and laid all the quests out on paper to decide which game was the winner! Be sure to let us know your favorite Daedric Prince Elder Scrolls quests in the comments!
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But Skyrim's Ebony Blade quest has one of the biggest twists in either game. Mephala is revealed too have the form of a cupboard on Nirn.
I never thought about it like that hahahaha
The bucket and fusrodah glitch?
The Daedra in the Cupboard
Lydia’s ASMR twin...
Mephala is a cupboard, confirmed canon
Anyone else notice that Peryite is usually the "nicest" of the princes in his quests? In Oblivion, Peryite sends you to rescue a bunch of idiots who tried to summon him. In Skyrim he sends you to take out a former champion who turned cult leader. If it wasn't for the fact that he's the god of disease, he'd be downright saintly compared to the rest.
Well he is also a prince of natural order. One part of that order is disease
@@Strellok100 He's basically a more cynical Mother Nature lol
Probably why he’s the weakest of the Princes as well. His much more caring nature results in his power not being as grand as it likely could be.
Outside of Meridia and Azura, you mean? Yeah, I agree
He's the task master, what's a way to get someone to do a task, be as nice as possible and give them a task that will help people.
*”Sometimes I dream about cheese”*-Lord Sheogorath
I actually just had a dream about raiding Molag bal's fridge for cheese! Or wait... did that actually happen? Ha! No matter!
@Samus Aran Paneer. Cotija. Mammoth.
E'erbody like cheese.
@@ShortStoryLuke WAIT
Behold the power of cheese! Jyggalag doesn't like cheese... No matter... There can still be a celebration if you don't like cheese
@@sheogoraththedaedricprince9675 FOR THE LAST TIME I TOLD.... Oh, Erm... Thank you for accepting me.
You know what might've made Skyrim's Vaermina quest even cooler? Actually experiencing the nightmare problem yourself if you slept in Dawnstar's inn. Maybe it takes you to a small pocket of Quagmire to be tormented by high-level daedra, and when you die, you wake up.
That could be used as a training scenario. Sleep and get beat up, die and wake up, repeat. Do that enough times and you'd have 100s in all your armor skills.
@@emrek99205then the quest should be. That when you die you just die like normal. But when you win that she leaves you alone because you are too powerfull to be haunted
True ! missed opportunity that they didn't add that .
I feel like Skyrim's daedric quests were too short. Especially Molag Bal's where you basically just rescue a guy from the forsworn, kill him at his shrine, and now you have the strongest mace in the game.
Resurrection scene was cool though. Now we know Princes easily bring someone back to life.
it was also too linear, if you were a moral character you were fucked with the molag bal quest, no way of betraying bal.
I feel like *most* of Skyrim's quests and questlines were too short tbh
@@thatguy-yn8ji There definitely needed to be a way to screw over Molag Bal in that quest, like in Vaermina's quest. My only explanation is that they ran out of time and said, "Screw it, you can just refuse to finish the quest. Done."
@@publiusdraco2557
You can kill the priest of Boethiah instead of rescuing him. That's the only other way to resolve the quest that I am aware of.
"It's just so cool to see Orcish culture up close- a culture Malacath helped create after he was swallowed in the form of Trinimac, by Boethia, and excreted"
You threw that in just to mess with Drew and the orc fans, didn't you?
My favorite detail about the Sheo quest in Oblivion is if you've done the Shivering Isles questline the dialogue changes completely.
"Praying to yourself my lord? Well I suppose to be expected, lord of madness and all" haskil is honestly one of the best characters in all of TES
It changes depending on where you are in the quest around the middle sheogorath acts somewhat more kindly to you sorta hard to tell with sheogorath
And if you do it right before sheogorath becomes jyggalag it's more melancholic for sheogorath anyways "Good work. Good times! Here's a little reward for your efforts. One of my toys. Now, back to business. Before I forget myself."
My favorite part of the "ill met by moonlight" quest was after killing the stag, if you were close enough the spirit would eat the grass and then put its mouth in your face chewing grass. Hircines a mad lad.
I'm totally in the Oblivion camp for Boethia, the tournament of ten bloods was too epic and you could play a good character and participate in the quest
Yeah, the one in Skyrim is cool and all with more interesting visuals along with pushing more for the lore-literal side of Boethiah's betrayal aspect but the tournament thing was just too cool. Pity it just looks like another one of Dagon's realms but that's just reusing content I guess lol. Personally would give it to Oblivion for that one.
@@thebeyblademaniac i didn’t even play oblivion, but that quest looks so sick
In general I prefer Skyrim but bothieas quest in oblivion is better IMO and it has better rewards such as high level amour potions and of course gold brand
Exactly. It's definitely more fun then "Go bandit cave"
Yeah overall I prefer skyrim, but oblivion boethiah quest easily takes the cake. Im biased though because I love doing gladiatorial combat in games amd that stuff was awesome in oblivion. Like the ebony mail more than gold brand though.
If they hadn’t scrapped some of the cut content of the Daedric quests (like the supposed “Giant Room” in Mind of Madness), then things would’ve been better
Or Mephala's quest in Skyrim. That thing was gonna be a mind warper.
@@heavymetalmusichead4969 There's a mod that restores the second cut Boethiah Quest. The one where she commands you to assassinate Jarl Elisif. I usually wait till the Civil War is finished before going through with it.
@@10tailedbijuu they better be. they keep failing with 76 years after its beta launch. Microsoft does not want them to lose market value.
@@MLPDethDealr32 What’s the name of the mod, and is it available on consoles?
I like the fact that in Skyrim the Daedric Princes didnt need to be confined to their shrines. It kind of sets them apart from the Aedra even more, as the Daedra are able to plant their influence themselves if they don’t have any in a specific area.
I like to think that is due to the events of oblivion weakening the barriers between the planes of existence
"A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON!"
Me: *flees*
Also the Sheogorath quest in Oblivion has alternate dialogue based on where you're at in the Shivering Isles questline.
Yah... do the sheogorath deadric quest after you beat shivering isles is nice... 😁
@@patrickaycock3655 The best time to do that quest is right at the end before you fight Jyggalag, Haskill shows up like "WTF are you doing? We're being invaded! Wait... why am I surprised by this?" *facepalm*
@@cerulee "Aren't you supposed to be at Xedilian?! Oh well never mind about that." Or my absolute favorite when you are Lord Sheogorath. Haskil going "Praying to yourself?"
*"A NEW HAND TOUC-"*
*quickloads, never opens chest again*
@@TippleCreations I ignore it in the chest. And never head back
Umbra is by far the greatest daedric artifact, not just because it’s a great sword but it’s also one of the main plot points in the only 2 elder scrolls novels ever made.
Wait. Your here too? Didn't realize you were also a Elder Scrolls fan. Just thought Star Wars
Do you get the high ground very often? Oh what am i saying... of course you don’t
This is where the fun begins *slaugthers the children at honorhall orphanage*
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Have you heard of the high ground?
The thing I like about Molag Bol's quest in Skyrim; he doesn't just give you his mace. He gives you a whole damn house too!
That was and still is forever my first house of every game. 😅 Too bad I can't put my adopted kids in there.
really makes up for the meh attempt to take over the world in the way too squeakie clean ESO
@@LadyCoyKoi why did the thought of thinking about putting your kids in a house haunted by the prince of rape even crossed your mind!?
@@darthbigred22 this opinion never made sense to me. The main villain of ESO is the fucking king of RAPE
@@KingdomHeart556 that's the point, while i haven't played it myself... from the clips i've seen, the game is too light-hearted to be a proper game about fighting molag bal.
You guys should Remaster the Champion of Molag Bal with all this talk of Daedra, that was my favorite build from way back when
I'm playing one rn. I'd love to see it.
I like Skyrim, but Oblivion story quests are much better. Sheogorath quest from Oblivion is unbeatable, and Molag Bal quest is unlike anything you can find in Skyrim.
The base game Sheogorath quest or shivering isles?
@@peanutbutter6720 I would say both.
Peanut Butter shivering isles was the best. Wish Bethesda would make content like that again
@@shaunenwright7872 Not that it's anyway similar in concept but far harbor at least had a lot of quality
Well using Shivering Isles content as Sheo’s quest is like using TLD as Mora’s for Skyrim- that would imbalance things quite a bit.
What I actually liked about Skyrim Daedric Princes is that not all of the them were present by human-like creature statues (like Molag Bal, Namira and Vaermina) or even had an graven image at all (like Mephala or Hermaeus Mora if we're speaking about their quests). And even statues had a variety of image and size. It was a nice design touch and gave them a sense of diversity.
1:27 Azura - Skyrim
2:56 Boethiah - Skyrim
4:32 Clavicus Vile - Oblivion
6:19 Hermaeus Mora - Skyrim
8:01 Hircine - Skyrim
9:27 Malacath - Skyrim
11:01 Mephala - Oblivion
12:31 Meridia - Skyrim
13:50 Molag Bal - Oblivion
16:10 Namira - Skyrim
18:01 Peryite - Skyrim
19:20 Sanguine - Skyrim
21:15 Sheogorath - Oblivion
23:15 Vaermina - Skyrim
Winner: Skyrim 10
Oblivion: 4
Excluded: Mehrunes Dagon, Nocturnal ( no "shrine" quest in Oblivion/ Skyrim respectively)
I feel like people who say Skyrim for most of these know little about the lore😂
This channel is literally a Skyrim simp channel so ofc Skyrim won lol
By Azura, by Azura, by Azura!
By the eight divine
@@GlennSkywalker2305 nine* divines
@@obijuanquenobi1911 oh hello master (btw my pfp is the head of anakin in ep 2)
@@odyn6882 no there are 8 talos isn’t a god oh right he is but it was the thalmor fault
The Adoring fan has respawn once again.
I liked praying at your "own shrine" via becoming sheogorath in oblivion, I had a good laugh at that, and I believe he comments on our Madness as we are praying at our own shrine even when we are already the god depicted
"The rim of all holes" beautiful...
Sounds luke an interesting job.
I re-wound to check I heard that one correctly.
something about skyrim's world always makes me feel so immersed where ever i go. im very happy i discovered skyrim years ago and im happy i discovered your channel :)
So I wrote down my thoughts before watching. But going to post this after watching.
Azura - Honestly couldn't remember her quest in Oblivion. the black star in Skyrim is a much better quest than killing yet another vampire in Oblivion. Sk1
Boethiah - Oblivion without question. My favorite Daedric quest in the game & full of amazing loot. I also love Skyrim's but Oblivion wins here. Ob1
Clavicus Vile - Ovlivion. Best weapon in the game & a good fight. Barbas annoys me in Skyrim since I often go their early to do the Hircine quest. Ob2
Hermaeus Mora - Both quests are a pain but Skyrim edges out purely because of Septimus Signus & Mora's voice acting. Sk2
Hircine - Ah my favorite prince & the one most of my characters worship. ESO included. Skyrim. Much better than just killing a unicorn. Sk3
Malacath - Skyrim. Much more memorable & enjoyable than "THESE ARE MY OGRES"! Followed by a normal dungeon. Sk4
Mephala - Hard one. Both are great. But I think Skyrim's wins by just a hair due to how the blade works in Skyrim. Making it a perfect weapon for an evil Dragonborn. Sk5
Meridia - "A NEW HAND TUTCHES THE BEACON"! Oblivion. I've grown very tired of her in Skyrim. Ob3
Molag Bal - Oblivion by a mile. Breaking an honorable man is far more fitting than saving a cultist from one of the most common enemies in Skyrim. Ob4
Namira - Oblivion's always made me laugh. But Skyrim's is truly evil feeling & I love doing Wood Elf cambial runs. Sk6
Peryite - By the divines Skyrim. Oblivion's quest is one of my most hated in the game. So long & so boring. Sk7
Sanguine - Oblivion. Skyrim's one is funny first time but after that is just a chore. Ob5
Sheogorath - Oblivion. Skyrim's quest is just a big reference bundle to Oblivion & is quite repetitive after the first time. Oblivion's is very entertaining. Ob6
Vaermina - Kind of dislike both. But I'm going to give it to Oblivion purly because of that one area with a bunch of hanging corpses & void. Gave me nightmares for a week. Very memorable. Ob7
Which leaves us with Oblivion 7 & Skyrim 7......hu....well....
😐
@@sireregor6633 😳
Come on lets admit it that both were equal in this.
even though the new hand touches the beacon is annoying I felt that the dungeon itself was better than the one in oblivion just cause you get a lot of gold from the corpse and the effect of dawnbreaker is really cool in my opinion. I mean at least her speech doesnt force you into a diaolgue box and force you to listen to her UNLIKE HERMA MORA.
@@zebfirehd9102 Haha thats a good point.
Both had pretty decent daedric quests, my favorite though would probably be molag bal’s quest in oblivion just because it was so unique albeit terrible if you think about the connotations of the quest. Overall most daedric quests are interesting and are the highlight of the elder scrolls series
A " night to remember " had to be the best daedric quest. You trash the temple of dibella , sell a goat to a giant , marry a hagraven and then end it with a party with a daedra. 😂😂😂😂
I feel like once you get over the meme value, there's no real substance behind the quest though
But you don't do that. They just tell you you did it. They tell you instead of showing you. That's so lazy.
Well, yes, but actually no
@@Filip_Agrippa but you do????
If actually embraced the fun of the quest you would’ve realized that there’s more to it than you’d like to believe.
If you wander around the plains near Rorikstead you’ll find a giant with Gleda, the goat you sold.
If you go to Witchmist grove, you’ll find the hagraven you almost got married to.
If you didn’t go through the whole quest using speech, then you would’ve found out why the quest is fun.
Also you’re drunk, so your character wouldn’t have remembered this stuff anyway because you blacked out.
The whole thing is straight out of a Hangover film.
@@Filip_Agrippa That's part of the fun. It's a classic "what the hell did I do last night" story that you'd never expect to see in an Elder Scrolls game. It's basically one of the Hangover movies but with demons and witches
Puny mortals debating oblivion vs skyrim, clearly the answer the game with the most cheese.
People just don't understand the pleasure one can get when playing golf with a horsespine while lollygagging very slowly from hole to hole. And afterwards cheese and a round of transforming mortals into cows.
Wise words from Sheogorath
Skyrim - 2500
Oblivion- 68
Dagon actually did have a daedric prince quest in oblivion, it was just DLC. It was this huge endurance run dungeon. It had a fast respawn timer so if you left partway through itd respawn and it was really long with some tough fights along the way and a pretty mean final boss fight at the end, eventually being rewarded by choosing to eat the still beating heart of dagons current champion to claim the razor or defy dagon and just steal the razor.
When comparing Merida's quests, those unique shades win it for Skyrim on their own
What about Dawnbreaker?
@@goldedrag111 True, but this is a ranking of the quests, not the artifacts.
In my opinion, Meridia's Skyrim quest was better.
I mean, it's ultimately a choice between a dungeon crawl, and a dungeon crawl with a set piece.
@@ElectromagNick My first Elder Scrolls game was Skyrim.
Vermina’s Oblivion quest has to be the most scary. But, Uncle Sheo’s quest is quite hilarious.
I can’t wait to see the quests in Skyrim 6
@@ethanstrs shhh let them believe that
R/WHOOSH
R/WHOOSH
You must be trolling
@@ethanstrs well he was joking
For The Cursed Tribe quest, I remember on one playthrough Yamarz actually ended up defeating the giant, much to my surprise. I don’t think Bethesda anticipated this happening so he just talked to me as if I killed the giant and I still had to kill him. I think it would’ve been cool if there was an alternate route where Yamarz actually wins and is recognized by Malacath, and so you don’t get Volendrung but instead get a gold reward from him and get named as Blood-kin.
I remember the relief I felt after finally ending the main quest and leaving the fiery landscapes behind. Then when I decide to do a Daedric quest, it's Peryite. Then it's 'I'm back AGAIN? Oh well...'
Absolutely loving this recent content! Keep up the great work team! As for Skyrim vs. Oblivion, I’d love to see a comparison of each game’s main quest, going stage by stage and putting each segment of each game against each other.
I find it hilarious that I did sanguines quest in Skyrim after getting married to ysolda and it’s much more hilarious when your wife tells you that you married a hagraven
we already know it's oblivion lol sheogorath's quest was the GOAT
Does his count or it focused on base game quest idk do you mean the main quest of shivering isle
@@GlennSkywalker2305 just the daedric quest lol shivering isles is one of the best dlcs though
@@wonderthigh ok ok
That’s good and all but what about the droid attack of the wookiees?
Actually his quest was the dog. On fire dog to be specific.
Your lore videos are wonderful, FudgeMuppet, but this one is my favorite. Well done, and very well thought out.
I'd actually give Oblivion Namria and Sanguine over Skyrim's versions. The twisting nightmare world of Namira's realm corrupting the tower is truly unique and requires more innovation. And as for Sanguine, I mean aside from the spectacle of it - Countess Alessia Caro being rendered naked in-front of party guests is a reward unto itself - especially if you have sneaked around the castle before and know what she's like behind closed doors.
I also have given Oblivion Nocturnal if we were allowed to count her -The Thieves Guild of Skyrim is just awful... who sells their soul to a Daedra to be "allowed" to get their stuff back for them? Also why would a guild of thieves all give their money to someone else to hold onto and not bother to check on it for TWENTY FIVE YEARS?! AND WHY WOULD SAY PERSON HANG AROUND?! So yeah, aside from the fact Noctural in Oblivion actually has you act like a thief instead of a dungeon raider, not getting the pretzel logic of that stupid quest line is it's own reward.
Mese Ktet nah sanguine wins Skyrim still, nocturnal can go to oblivion. Also namiras is way cooler in Skyrim, but I do like the forgotten in oblivion.
@@cromabu5090 No. All were better in Oblivion
@@cromabu5090 Oh, I am sorry, not Namira, that is my bad, I meant Vaermina. Nightmare daedra, not Grossness daedra, sorry, my bad. That twisting nightmare tower beats the heck out of fight the frozen bandits and crazy cult members.
Hope I mean that’s your opinion but it’s a bit arrogant. I admit oblivion won what they did in this video, but Skyrim’s are without doubt better. However oblivion definitely wins in the guild department.
Mese Ktet ohhh right, yeah it was kinda cool and it certainly fit her, but the dream stride was pretty epic though.
Plus it gave you a choice which unfortunately most daedric quests don’t give
Mephala’s quest in Skyrim is ridiculously underwhelming. Boethia is meh in both. Vaermina in Oblivion wins for me.
They scrapped most of the Mephala quest in Skyrim, originally Balgruuf's kid is supposed to kill him, making the other guy Jarl, but well..
@@Replica2901 Sounds terrible having to kill one of the few good Imperial-aligned Jarls
@@Replica2901 I agree on Vaermina tower was really cool
Actually, after you get the star at the fort, that's when you get the choice to have the black star or Azura's star, by taking it to Nelacar he sends you inside the star to kill the mage and it becomes the black star and can't turn it back, or by taking it to Azura where she sends you inside instead and it turns into Azura's star and you get the follower
I love these vids! Pitting nostalgia and familiarity! Thank y'all for all that y'all do! It's much more to us than just a fun video!
I found Boethiah quite surprising after originally playing Skyrim like 20 times then remembering I owned Oblivion from 10 years ago.
In Oblivion she’s presents herself as a male Daedric prince but in Skyrim he presents himself as a female Daedric prince.
Clavicus Vile is also interesting as he’s more of a mischievous kid in oblivion and a deceitful adult in Skyrim.
Really helps to show that he’s he daedra can appear in whatever form they feel like or whatever their devoted have chosen and created a shrine in likeness to.
I agree that the daedric quests in themselves might way in the favor of Skyrim however I very much preferred the daedric shrines in oblivion. I enjoyed the concept of seeking them out to pledge allegiance to the daedric princes rather than starting a quest and halfway realising that my character was on their way to now dabble with the daedra.
Interacting with other followers of the daedric princes without having to murder them was also something that I think gave the daedra a more interesting position in the world. In Skyrim most deadric gods do not have any followers or have their followers only to betray them.
I always found it kind of boring tho. I quite liked stumbling upon a daedric quest without realising it cus it felt like how the prince's would act with people in the elder scrolls world. That's just me tho
I prefer skyrim to oblivion generally, but even I will admit oblivion had better daedra quests
That's kinda the opposite opinion to what Fudgemuppet comes to, but that's not an issue.
@@wanderingshade8383 mhm! I was simply stating my own opinion
(Edit) oh wait this is 2020 I forgot opinions were not allowed, my bad
@@skullgirl8363
He goes to the block...
@@skullgirl8363 how dare you have your own opinion you racist Stormcloak
oblivion is very hard to return too without mods imo, and even mods don't fix the issues i personally have with voice acting. so i agree
Oblivion vs Skyrim: The writing
Jk, but with this type of videos it would be awesome to see several videos comparing the guilds from Oblivion & Skyrim. Alot of good content there
Awesome face off. I've been playing the games same Daggerfall. I can say that every generation cuts out something that I like from the previous ones (insane number of factions and wall climbing, plus day night cycle npc schedule cut from Daggerfall to Morrowind, all but basic factions plus open cities (until DLC added knights) cut from Morrowind to Oblivion (but they added day/night npc schedules back in!), and mages, along with the feeling of true guild progression cut from Oblivion to Skyrim) but I still enjoy each new generation for what it improves on. Tighter questing, more “alive” npc's, more fluid leveling systems and combat mechanics. This video was a great reminder that nostalgia can make things way better than reality.
Nostalgia has jack shit to do with this,the older games ARE BETTER, and the fact that everyone now days say that the only right way to play skyrim is with mods, and normaly most of the recommended mods are just adding back mechanics from the older games that skyrim stripped down to become more "casual friendly" also speaks volumes that skyrim popularity from back then was because it was the new shinyiest toy of the moment, just like today its because this game has been relaunched for every single eletronic imaginable and because the mod authors managed to keep the game alive by essentisly morphing it into a entirely mew game.
Morrowind will always be my favorite Elder Scrolls game. Absolutely massive and open. Give it a try. The story doesn't disappoint.
Yes!!! Long live House Redoran!!!
@@xxsaruman82xx87 I probably played through that game once for each race.
It's a great game until you glitch through one of the bridges in vivec city :D
@@chungbingus1411 that's a feature. Lol
You n’wah
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the minorities are ignored in the empire
Sorry but the hist knows little of your kind and cares even less.
@@patrickaycock3655 you are but a puppet to the hist, scaley one
@@MrMoose-bl7jv 🤣 nice one! But im still cool with that.
But i do agree its past time for more good orc lore.
Lol the poop people want there Lore talked about😂😂😂
Honestly my favorite channel, keep it up dudes
I think both games have their pros and cons. The quests themselves are more creative in Oblivion, but the way you discover the quests are more interesting in Skyrim since they all seem to be out of natural consequence as opposed to visiting a shrine.
Fantastic video, fantastic list! This turned out to be a very interesting and great listen while I was driving at work. A really cool oblivion versus Skyrim video to make, would be class or role-play play style. I’m very confident oblivion would win this one as you could create your own class and so on. But I think this would be an interesting one to do
Morrowind had the best Daedric quests, they were so obscure and actually forced you to really figure out how to solve all the puzzles (unless you used an online guide or something similar)
That’s so weird I got Skyrim a year ago and it quickly became my favorite game of all time so I just got oblivion yesterday and now u upload this, PRAISE TALOS
There was a DLC for Mehrunes Razor in Oblivion, I actually remember liking it, a secret army and a big ass cave easily took me 30-60 minutes first time through
Both have some very good ones. And very meh ones...
Bro I get so hyped for every video
Vote: Oblivion
You n’wah
Oblivion is the best elder scrolls game, because there are still rpg elements compared to Skyrim where it does not matter which race or gender you choose. Many roleplaying elder scrolls fans dont like the fact that in Skyrim you can become the best warrior in the companions and archmage at the college of winterhold. The only downside is if you become bored of the same class and skills, you cant make the switch with perks to change it like in Skyrim.
@@thomasrosendahl2783 Well, you can become the best in the fighters guild and mages guild but difference is that their progression is better than Skyrim’s and it’s much harder depending on the classes and stuff you choose. Also, I like how you didn’t compare Oblivion to Morrowind
@@thomasrosendahl2783 the game is better because it limits your options? so you like less gameplay i see.
@@pulsefel9210 limiting things in a way that makes the world adhere to its own rules is necessary for a good environment.
Thank you Michael for posting this
The Daedric quests are really the only major area where Skyrim clearly outstrips Oblivion imo. You touched on this at the end, but the fact that they felt like organic quests seeded into the world - sometimes engulfing you before you even knew there was a major quest involved - made a huge difference. Oblivion's (and I say this as another person for whom Oblivion is my first and greatest TES love) were very formulaic in how they came to you - you went to a place, provided an offering, did a thing, and came back to the place, it was like an in-universe giant "QUEST HERE" floating exclamation point.
Does anyone think the Rueful Axe actually cures lycanthropy. Due to Skyrim exploring how lycanthropy changes your afterlife
Yes. If it kills you youre cured
I like both games...oblivion had a better quests when it comes to the guilds but i knew skyrim was going to win when it came to deadric quests
i think you missed my favourite part of malacath's quest in oblivion here because after you beat the quest you can go back to the farm and see the ogres rose up against the farm owner and enslaved him which is funny although i didn't know ogres could demonstrate such agency and would have expected them to just murder the farm owner
"Ignoring the pain of accidentally finding Meridia's beacon..." HAHAHAHA I literally had to pull out the plug of my speakers when it happened.
The deadra in skyrim just felt like more of a force in the world; like they were lurking around every corner, influencing the world. Kind of reminds me of the stories of the princes you find in books. Maybe their influence has grown since the oblivion crisis? Maybe Mancar was more successful than we think..
Sheogorath is my favorite Daedric Prince and watching a bunch of cats running around in hysteria, thinking the world is ending, is loads of fun. Especially when it started raining dogs.
Also i feel you should have addressed the dlc add-on to the sheogorath dadric quest where in haskill actually addresses the madness of the player (now sheogorath) praying to himself
Oblivion's Sheogorath looks like an eccentric noble, fittingly enough. Skyrim's looks like a Felldew smoker.
This makes me want to see a ranking of the daedric princes by hotness. Not just visually though. They also need a good personality, like Sanguine, the life of the party, or Malacath, who lifts you up when you fall down (albeit a but aggressively).
I just love that the Hero of Kvatch is the one to give you the quest in Skyrim.
Skyrim's Namira quest was definitely better. It was the only thing I've ever done in a video game where I felt uneasy after doing it.
The reason for difference between Oblivion ans Skyrim Sheogorath is that they are two different version of Prince of Madness, since Skyrim one is Hero of Kvatch. So it make more sense that his quest in Skyrim would be to help someone to be cured of madness rather than spread it like the other one did in Oblivion.
I liked having to find random stuff giving an offer had a really good lore feeling
I do believe Skyrim had the best voice actors or actresses than Oblivion hands down. Meridia you cannot get it out of your head. I wish Skyrim did more with Molag Bal because he was my favorite voice actor.
This was a very cool video, great job mates. I always felt Skyrim did daedric quests better overall over Oblivion, tho Oblivion’s rewards felt more powerful and unique. As for the next Skyrim vs Oblivion video I’d like to see, I’d be very interested in you guys going over the Dark Brotherhood quest lines. Keep up the good work as always
Oblivions wins by a country mile. The murder mystery house, the feeling of progression throughout it all from accepting jobs from different members, the purification, the dead drops getting switched, murdering a matriarch and killing her ENTIRE family. Man I loved that questline
@@windebiesteultima3317 I also love dark brotherhood of oblivion but skyrim is close to heart
In the Crused Tribe Quest, I saved before sending him in and continuously reloaded the save trying to figure out why he kept dying then I gave up killed the giant then Yamarz attacked me. One hit KO and I’m back on my way to the Tribe.
Let's vote: Give a like for Oblivion, comment Fus Ro Dah for Skyrim.
Fus Ro Dah
@@jasonsilvernail1450 ooof
*_Uses Battle Cry instead_*
I like Oblivion more but I also like Skyrim
That's hardly a fair vote:
- Simply exist for Oblivion
- Successfuly petition your government for an ammendment to the Constitution for Skyrim
I honestly would put Sanguine as the best Daedric quest in Skyrim, where in Oblvion I would put it at #2 just after Sheogorath.
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I really feel like the makers of Skyrim went really hard into quality Daedric Quests, character interactions, and a living world to make up for Oblivion's copy paste environments and goofy character interactions.
However, Oblivion definitely had better guilds. Better stories, ranks, characters, and rewards than anything in Skyrim.
Here's to hoping elder scrolls 6 finds a way to balance both approaches.
I've played Skyrim, Morrowind, and a good chunk of Oblivion this year, and honestly, Skyrim's is the best in my opinion. I know that people are quick to complain about Skyrim's flaws, but it does great things like how it handles Daedric quests, trying to make them fit with their princess as much as possible, to the point of trying to be selective of who would have a shrine and who wouldn't, and where. I mean, lets be honest, Namira would loath to have a shrine on the surface for all to see, so it makes sense for Skyrim to have it hidden in a crypt.
makes sense and for Nocturnal to have no shrine at all as well as herma mora in Skyrim because they are very secretive. and beside nords don't like Mora.
You're talking about character design, not quests
@@zebfirehd9102 Classic jocks hating nerds.
I can't believe it, considering how old Oblivion is, and how many millions of hours I put into it, but I had to stop this for spoilers. I haven't done all the Oblivion deadric quests. That's the biggest reason I have to boot it up again.
Nah mate I've done about 1,500 hours into oblivion and Ive done everything multiple times
@@RaidoactiveBoy millions is probably an exaggeration. But I've done many things multiple times. A number of massive playthroughs. Just not all the daedric quests.
@@RaidoactiveBoy and your point being?
I even don't remember not even one Daedric quest in Skyrim (last time played like a couple years ago) and I remember all Daedric quests from Oblivion (last time played like a 12years ago). Of course my vote - Oblivion.
In skyrim, Bethesda seems to have tried tailoring the Artifacts to the gods rather than just making them a boon. Savior's Hide gives animalistic resistance to poison and disease. Spellbreaker protects from harmful things just like Peryite protects from disease etc.
In Oblivion, the daedra quests seemed to be really cool, but only in contrast to the more boring quests you’d find in Oblivion (not knocking the game, it’s one of my favorites from Bethesda and my introduction into elder scrolls).
Skyrim, in my opinion, did a much better job of actually capturing the identity of each Daedric Prince. They also felt a lot more natural. There was something so weird about just stumbling upon a cult to Malacath or Vermina. At least in Skyrim, it felt like something almost led you to an area rather than you literally searching out Daedric shrines.
Like the Molag Bal quest introduction was beyond perfect. You think you’re helping out this random Vigilant of Stendarr clear out a house full of Daedra. If you haven’t played the game before, you might even think you are starting a whole new Daedra hunter questline by joining the Vigilants.
Then suddenly Molag Bal starts talking, literally shaking the house like a demonic force of some kind. Then forcing you to kill the man who asked for your help.
Before I even watched: i love Oblivion but of course skyrim's daedra quests are better , Oblivion's daedric quests are at the lvl of Skyrim's guild quests: go to dungeon finish dungeon come back, ocasionaly get an instresting quest. but skyrim's daedra quests are whole different thing each one is unique (almost) and intresting just like Oblivion's regulat quests! lol
I agree with the final score, but I'd switch the verdicts for Sheogorath and Vaermina.
LMFAO don't forget.. If you finish off shivering isles BEFORE doing the sheogorath statue quest.. Haskill will show up instead of sheogorath.. And (I can't remember the exact wordage) basically ask you why are you worshipping yourself? But who is he to judge the mad lord, lmfao
Absolutely love it!!
Watching these videos about Oblivion, I'm surprised by just how much quests I missed in it. God I love Oblivion so much.
I actually love Skyrims quest for Sheagorath it reminds me a lot of Alice in Wonderland he's also my favorite Daedra to be honest
Imagine if TES6 had entire questlines for Daedric artifacts instead of just single quests.
Or even a single questline that pulls every daedric prince into the story and you have to choose one of them to side with, getting their artifact by the end.
I don't want that. One thing I appreciate about Skyrim was it had a really long playthrough. It was unrealistic in world that say you can be DB and TG while also be a Companion BUT it didn't make you make a new character for that either. There is part of me that really enjoys how confusing the Daedra and Aedra must have it when the Hero of Kvatch or Dragonborn die since almost everyone has a claim to him.
But I'd rather have that than need to make a new character and slog through everything again just to get Azura's Star. Plus almost all the Daedra are evil so who reallly wants to quest that long for any of them?
Now that said I wouldn't mind a flip side to every faction. Say I go Fighter's guild so that means no DB or TG but instead you exterminate them. You join the cult of the 9s or you pick a daedra but either way you attack the other members and defile their religious artifacts.
My biggest bitch in Skyrim is smithing is so good most of the daedric artifacts are just that artifacts. They should scale up with the player so that when you get them you don't just stick them in a display case. That and a lot of them just suck anyways. Oh thanks for this mace i don't use because i don't use maces Molag.
6:26 hermaeus mora is infact a crab tentacle thing that evolved into eye tentacles. since daggerfall he was crab tentacle thing
there is also a statue of that form somewhere in solstheim iirc.
The fact there are at least 3 different ways to end Namira's quest in Skyrim is just awesome.
I used to be bothered that you didn't get Goldbrand in Skyrim and wondered why. Then i realized its because the fucking Emperor has it
This video was so nostalgic xD
I forgot about the Molag Bal quest in Oblivion but man did the one in Skyrim scare the crap out of me? It's one of the coolest quests in Skyrim. I was not expecting the game to turn into a bit of a horror game all of a sudden, in the middle of a sunny Markarth morning 😭 I was just trying to be helpful!
Also what's up with Markarth having all these crazy/sinister people under the surface? Like more than usual in other cities.
The Shivering Isles vs Apocrypha? Fulfilling a prophecy just to fuck with cat people vs Pelagius? No contest, it's definitely Oblivion
"The idea that maybe there's the heart of a god inside this dwemer contraption."
Uh...right, Michael's the one that didn't really play Morrowind, right?
Imagine if sheogorath realized that you were able to load a save. Would be sick
Oblivion: You having to gather stuff and find the shrines to summon the Deadric Princes.
Skyrim: The princes basically hunting you down.
Cause in Skyrim you're the Last Dragonborn, Akatosh's precious youngest child, destined to become one of the most powerful mortals on Nirn. What Daedric Prince *wouldn't* want to take a crack at you? You're like the last action figure on the shelf, one of a kind. That's gotta be like catnip to them.